You have heard rumblings over the last year of dissent in the ranks of the faithful in South Africa.
A number of prominent figures have become fed up with the abuses and constant begging for money. Meanwhile the orgs are clearly going nowhere. We have had reports from correspondents in South Africa about the dismal state of Joburg Org and then the flop that was Pretoria “Ideal Org” and the empty Kyalami Castle “the home of the new AO” and much more. There are plenty of commenters on this and other blogs from South Africa, some of whom are known and some remain pseudonymous to protect their families. Many from South Africa have been in touch with me on back-channels.
It was predictable that there would be big news coming out of South Africa.
Now the bomb has dropped.
The most prominent family of Scientologists in South Africa (the Corbett’s) have left the building. Gaye and Ernest Corbett and their children have been pillars of the Scientology community in Joburg and at Flag for decades.
A new blog has been started in Joburg for all those who have broken away from the RCS and I encourage everyone to click through to the blog here and read the introduction and story about the Corbett’s.
There will be much more coming and more names and stories. For those of you not familiar with the Corbett’s this would be similar to all the Feshbach’s publicly abandoning the church in the US. Or Bill and Melinda Gates renouncing Miscrosoft.
It proves once more – the most prevalent skill of Corporate Scientology is making enemies. Operating in the image of their leader, they have mastered that skill in every respect.
Travers E Harris says
Well Well, nothing surprising to me. I ran the Joburg Org on mission from FOLO AF for a while. In case anyone is not aware of the real problem in Scientology, here it is. The current leader of the movement is a psycho, absolutely so. His staff, world wide, are PTS and are terrified that they may lose their eternity if they are not good Scientologists so they carry out the psycho’s orders. People, you own your spirituality and no-one can take it away from you, it is in your hands.
I spent 22 years in the movement mostly working on the ships with LRH and FOLOs. I had my fair share of working with psychos in the sea org
Aquamarine says
Mike,
I’m over the moon with this news about the Corbetts! See, the truth IS getting out there. LRH said, “Don’t overwhem – penetrate”. That’s what’s happening! Thank you thank you Mike!
And let me suggest workable policy as regard the about the lying, whispering campaigns: “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never harm me”.
The Lying Whisperers are themselves highly trapped, frightened beings who are in for a veryrude awakening one day. And they may even, some of them, know the truth, and yet are following orders just so they can eat and have a bed to sleep in and a roof over their heads whilst they make their plans to get out.
And the lies they are spreading now will roll off the Corbetts back and become part of the lyers’ future in a way that will be very personally damaging to their own beingness.
Wendy M says
Hello Corbett Family! Although I don’t yet know the full story, I want to congratulate you for keeping your integrity intact and for kicking butt!
This is huge news and I just know it is going to create an effect like no other so far.
Also, I think no-one believes the black PR. Those of us who have looked, know the truth, and know what goes on. Not only do I know it (the PR) to be lies, I think the lies are also pretty facile.
Here’s wishing you all the best …. I can’t wait to hear more.
On my wish list is that all African Orgs and Missions defect and make a Unilateral Declaration of Independence. (There’s the Rhodesian in me speaking!)
Wendy Munro
Calvin B Duffield says
Duplicated, Wendy, — thanks! As I said earlier here, Ernie & Gaye started out in Durban, in the early 70’s with very little, but cognited immediately and just rocketed from there.
There are many, many, under-the-radar’s, still hovering, for the ‘standard reasons,’ most of which involve; ‘sparing loved one’s from being hurt, ex-communicated, etc.etc’
Just a little while longer, and the bulging eyed, sociopathic dwarf will just be toast!
1subgenius says
Being the “Bunker Bookie”, I had, about a month ago, put 4 to 1 odds against the big tent event(s) happening.
When the Netherlands, rather foolishly, granted tax-free status a week ago, I revised the odds to 50-50, because David McSavage would at least have something to trumpet.
With the stunning news from South Africa, my odds today are 10 to 1 that no large scale tent events will take place.
Wendy M says
I like your odds! As a South African I can say that this news is really huge. Money aside, the Corbett family carried, and still do carry, a lot of credibility. Many will take another look. The number of flaps to handle will surely overwhelm ……sooner rather than later.
splog says
The Corbetts left? Holy shit, that’s a major development. For those outside of SA, that’s about equivalent to the Jensens leaving.
I wonder who’s next? Heide and Louis Peens? Could be tricky – Louis and Ernest Corbett have been working together on property business for years.
Hallie Jane says
I can’t think of anything representing true Scn less, than some creepy meeting to gossip and rumor monger about people who aren’t present. How much further from the concept of truth can they be? Congrats to the South Africans, welcome to light and freedom. Communicate freely about anything you want with anyone you want.
Sejanus says
I have to admit after seeing the state of Scilon buildings in photos on the web, I was still taken aback by how empty some of these monstrousities are.
Buffalo is a gorgeous redo of an old site, but you couldnt find a better place to be undisturbed by humans.
Went there three weeks ago on a Thursday evening to have a peek. Only one SO guy hiding behind an imposing reception desk. He looked up at my companion and I through the door glass and began typing feverishly.
In the time it took us to walk 50 feet to the corner of the building and back another SO sprinted up behind us from a parked car, then tried to pretend he was only going to the bus. We walked past him and looked back to see him talking to someone presumably on his earpiece. Then cue the arrival of two more SO members in uniform approaching from a car hastily abandoned in the back lot. The older of the two ladies hanging back giving a blow by blow description of us to someone at the other end of the line.
We were never asked if we had questions or needed some direction.
Instead we were greeted with tails, whispers and paranoia.
It was rather enjoyable actually.
This is not how a healthy, growth oriented religion or business would conduct itself.
It is not inviting but rather off putting.
Small wonder whales are swimming for deeper waters, as they are tired of swimming in cesspools. Wave bye bye to the money you COBsucker.
The orgs are made in your image and continue to dwindle in people, power and purse.
They will continue to be their own worst enemy and true legacy of the Misbegottensavage.
Hallie Jane says
Wow that is truly pathetic.
Scott Campbell says
Malcom Gladwell would be proud!
Still on your side says
While screeching about the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of religion, Miscavige conveniently forgot that the First Amendment also guarantees freedom to communicate, through the press or Internet, at meetings, on street corners, in your home, with friends, with family members, in virtually any way. When people take back this right to communicate, it follows that they will reject Miscavige and his tyranny. They will communicate with their disconnected families, and they will broadcast their freedom on the Internet or other ways.
Freedom of communication is like air, you need it to live, and once you have an abundance of it you realize you have been suffocating for years. And you don’t willingly give it up ever again. Which is why the Idle Orgs will get emptier and emptier as more church members discover the beauty of breathing free air.
Hallie Jane says
Excellent comment!
DollarMorgue says
Brilliant analogy 🙂
Carcha says
+! Right.
Rory Medford says
The pendulum has swung big time in the favor of all those people who have been f__ked, defrauded, lied to and many other sinister activities by the Church of Scientology. Miscavige thinks he is above the law and his money, lawyers and OSA can always bail him out. They too turn will against the weak link, DM!!!
Cooper Kessel says
Mike,
Perhaps a new definition for Enemy Line: A group of folks opposed to the Radical Church of Scientology lined up to speak the truth about David Miscavige and his minions.
Jane Doe says
Good one. And Goldenrod is the copper colored rod that Davie holds onto to ground himself and keep from flying into outer space from all the electrical mest charge he accumulates and never discharges.
WhiteStar says
i’m curious to know if Double Moron2x showed up at graduation and what dates he didn’t announce again.
deElizabethan says
A few friendly tourists were in town Wednesday and talked with 2 different members on the street. They both said not sure of exact date but will be in a couple weeks. They are furiously working on the park and looks like should be finished by that time. The park runs between Osceola and Harrison, next to the garage. Designed for a walkway from the Cove to Mecca and the tent.
WhiteStar says
sounds like Mr. Magnificent strikes again.
I don’t know why but that name cracks me up.
every time i see “he who cannot be mentioned” on stage away from the podium, i think of an ornament on a wedding cake.
Jane Doe says
That’s because wedding cake ornaments are small and fake.
tetloj says
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LDW says
Seems to me that the majority of people who got involved in scientology did so because they were looking for something to better their lives. Most got involved on a one-on-one, word of mouth basis.
Seems to me the majority are leaving after realizing their lives are getting worse in the world of miscavology. One-by-one. And no matter how much he tries to suppress the truth with his nazi-youth ethics officers and his SS OSA operatives, he just can’t shut that word of mouth up.
Poor baby. Nobody listening to Him anymore.
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige desperately needs some lessons in African Voo Doo
Stating with:
NEVER CONJURE UP MORE DEMONS THAN YOU CAN CONJURE DOWN
*****African Voo Doo Prayer********
Finish High School while he’s at it.
Hallie Jane says
Nice!
Cooper Kessel says
The time is now! Through off the chains of fear and suppression, stand up and be counted, state your name and show no fear.
When you pull back the curtains it will be revealed how pathetic a person (or group) it was that you allowed to have sway over your life and your loved ones. When we all stand up it will disappear. You can help it go away now!
In 1776 there were 56 persons who penned their names on the Declaration of Independence. They were hunted by the British and many lost their lives. So what do you have to lose that is so precious??
Cooper Kessel says
OOPS a tad illiterate today! How about “Throw off”. Must have been to an event recently ……
remoteviewed says
It’s alright Coope got what ya said even with the typo.
Jane Doe says
But it was a rousing speech anyway. Thanks.
Madora Pennington says
Congratulations Corbett Family!!!!
The most case gain available to anyone is LEAVING. The relief keeps coming ……
indie8million says
Do you guys mind if I do a little math here?
1 + 1 = 2 right?
1. DM won’t go to South Africa for the Pretoria Grand Opening.
+
1. Now the Corbett’s have left the building because of the high crimes committed on their persons as described above.
= I always thought that was strange that DM wouldn’t go but felt that it might be because the South Africans (bless their no BS taking souls) could see through his BS and he felt ‘threatened’ down there. “I want to get every inmate out of the prison” said one of the African chiefs. Could the chief have been talking about getting the Scientologists out of the DM Prison Planet?
Does that equal 2 to you?
Peter Gibbons says
If sticking your finger into an electrical socket jolts your mind from wash to rinse, then I hope more Scientology folks line up at the power strip.
Alex castillo (Flag Evaluator 75-81 says
Sorry to crash the party with an off topic post, I just wanted to make sure you know about my “heroic” action today:)) So I am re-posting it here, if that’s OK with you Mike.
Alex Castillo (Flag Evaluator ’75-’81 says:
October 25, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Hi guys, today I had nothing pressing to do, so I called the UK Orgs to get some info. I called first Manchester, then HAPI (Edinburgh Org),then Plymouth, and last the London Org. When I called Manchester I was greeted by a nice, 21 year old French girl who was happy to answer some of my questions. I started by saying I was OT3 and wanted to talk with a tech person. I managed to ask who was now running the CoS and she said there was no one person running the “church”. She said there were a number of people making all decisions.I said is it like a board of directors” and she said yes I said is David Miscavige COB and she said yes. My shore story was that I had had auditing and courses a long time ago at the London Org and I had just come back to England and wanted to continue on up the bridge. I asked if they had trained auditors and she said yes we have 2 in training. I expressed my concern about being audited by inexpert auditors and asked if they had fully trained, experienced auditors. She said yes we have the qual sec and the c/s. I said I would come to see them next week and she was happy with that.Nice, naive French 21 year old girl.
Later I called again and a guy who could hardly comunicate answered the phone. I thought he was OSA but didn’t say that. I said I had called earlier and wanted to talk to someone who was tech trained. Then he transfered me to another person who turned up to be the ED, Mrs Fitzgibbon.
I can’t reproduce the whole conversation but I did manage to say to her
that I had received the email advertising her husband’s effort to support David Miscavige and she said: “my husband wants to do what he wants to do and it is nothing to do with COB David Miscavige. “Leave my husband alone. He wants to do this all of his own, give him a chance to have some time away from the wife and all”. I said that was a great idea and then asked her if she realized that LRH’s tech had been altered by David Miscavige but all she could do was to say “if you want to discuss what you want to handle for yourself, come and see us”. After I told her my actual backgound and how I was concerned that David Miscavige was all but destroying scientology by altering every bit of tech in the book,she managed to say “thank you for the call, I hope you manage to resolve the issues you have” She sounded like a not so brainwashed intelligent
person, so there is hope on that one.
Then I called the Plymouth Org and ran into the ED (holding everything from above-including reception. He bought my initial deceptive statements and when I told him about me, my background and the purpose of my call, he listened like with good trs, let me finish and then told me I could come and talk to someone and there would be an answer to my problem!!!!
Similar thing with HAPI (Edinburh Org. Once again, the ED was holding reception (hint,hint) and by gosh he was receptive. I told him who I really was (except my name) and how they are being duped by Micavige, etc and he listened to the whole thing without interrupting. Don’t know if I got throughto him.
Last I called the London Org and the receptionist just listened and when I finished just said the stock answer: “Just come to see us and we will try to handle your problems”.
I have the feeling, after talking to 4 different people, that, although they wouldn’t admit it, they are not so sure they serving the righ master. Every time i spoke, I highlighted the wonderful work LRH had done for the human race and I could not get an answer to how come such effective tech had been altered by David Miscavige or how come instead of expanding scientology, Miscavige is expanding MEST and destroying Scientology. Clearly the people I spoke with, including Fitzgibbon’s wife,are very, very ignorant of the original OEC (none of them have read or study it), none of them were “Clear” or “OT 3″ ( I introduced myself as an old OT3 from the 70′s).
I can clearly see that the orgs people are Tone 40 duped into believing that Miscavige’s criminal actions are the acts of an Extraordinary Humanitarian Being all out to save the world. That’s all I can gather from this little excercise. The really sad thing is, they are all fine, decent people, not dirty but ignorant and naive, some hanging on to the “LRH is source” thread, which gets thinner by the second. I feel sorry for them.
Alex
Yuck, get me outahere.
alex
WhiteStar says
nice way to sniff the atmosphere on the inside. good detective work.
next email leaked will read
“only answer questions from calls made from official phones”.
the partisans have a counter part to every one of their branches.
every move they make, there is someone there to counter it.
they have PIs, so do we.
they have lawyers, so do we.
they have “PR”, SOOOOOOOOOOO do we!
they have stubbornness , we have steadfastness.
they yell, we laugh out loud.
they sue, we win.
they abuse courts, we educate them.
they have dirty tricks, we figure them out.
they are “expanding”, we are legion.
they are Doomed, we know it.
deElizabethan says
Love your post WhiteStar!
WhiteStar says
*WhiteStar doffs cap and bows to me lady deElizabethan*
Penny says
This is great news! I wish this family the very best and my congratulations! I remember reading (possibly on Steve’s blog) that when the Indie 500 hits 500 names, we would be approaching the tipping point. Last time I checked it was 472. I’m sure when news of this hits the inner circle of whales there may be a few unexpected tidal waves. I sure hope so! Great report Mike!
Alex Castillo (Flag evaluator '75-'81) says
Mike , sorry to be off topic, you are moving fast. I did want people to see my post, so i’m crashing the party here. Sorry about that. Had to switch to Firefox to get thru. Internet explorer kept throwing up an “error” window. Don’t know why.
Hi guys, today I had nothing pressing to do, so I called the UK Orgs to get some info. I called first Manchester, then HAPI (Edinburgh Org),then Plymouth, and last the London Org. When I called Manchester I was greeted by a nice, 21 year old French girl who was happy to answer some of my questions. I started by saying I was OT3 and wanted to talk with a tech person. I managed to ask who was now running the CoS and she said there was no one person running the “church”. She said there were a number of people making all decisions.I said is it like a board of directors” and she said yes I said is David Miscavige COB and she said yes. My shore story was that I had had auditing and courses a long time ago at the London Org and I had just come back to England and wanted to continue on up the bridge. I asked if they had trained auditors and she said yes we have 2 in training. I expressed my concern about being audited by inexpert auditors and asked if they had fully trained, experienced auditors. She said yes we have the qual sec and the c/s. I said I would come to see them next week and she was happy with that.Nice, naive French 21 year old girl.
Later I called again and a guy who could hardly comunicate answered the phone. I thought he was OSA but didn’t say that. I said I had called earlier and wanted to talk to someone who was tech trained. Then he transfered me to another person who turned up to be the ED, Mrs Fitzgibbon.
I can’t reproduce the whole conversation but I did manage to say to her
that I had received the email advertising her husband’s effort to support David Miscavige and she said: “my husband wants to do what he wants to do and it is nothing to do with COB David Miscavige. “Leave my husband alone. He wants to do this all of his own, give him a chance to have some time away from the wife and all”. I said that was a great idea and then asked her if she realized that LRH’s tech had been altered by David Miscavige but all she could do was to say “if you want to discuss what you want to handle for yourself, come and see us”. After I told her my actual backgound and how I was concerned that David Miscavige was all but destroying scientology by altering every bit of tech in the book,she managed to say “thank you for the call, I hope you manage to resolve the issues you have” She sounded like a not so brainwashed intelligent
person, so there is hope on that one.
Then I called the Plymouth Org and ran into the ED (holding everything from above-including reception. He bought my initial deceptive statements and when I told him about me, my background and the purpose of my call, he listened like with good trs, let me finish and then told me I could come and talk to someone and there would be an answer to my problem!!!!
Similar thing with HAPI (Edinburh Org. Once again, the ED was holding reception (hint,hint) and by gosh he was receptive. I told him who I really was (except my name) and how they are being duped by Micavige, etc and he listened to the whole thing without interrupting. Don’t know if I got throughto him.
Last I called the London Org and the receptionist just listened and when I finished just said the stock answer: “Just come to see us and we will try to handle your problems”.
I have the feeling, after talking to 4 different people, that, although they wouldn’t admit it, they are not so sure they serving the righ master. Every time i spoke, I highlighted the wonderful work LRH had done for the human race and I could not get an answer to how come such effective tech had been altered by David Miscavige or how come instead of expanding scientology, Miscavige is expanding MEST and destroying Scientology. Clearly the people I spoke with, including Fitzgibbon’s wife,are very, very ignorant of the original OEC (none of them have read or study it), none of them were “Clear” or “OT 3″ ( I introduced myself as an old OT3 from the 70′s).
I can clearly see that the orgs people are Tone 40 duped into believing that Miscavige’s criminal actions are the acts of an Extraordinary Humanitarian Being all out to save the world. That’s all I can gather from this little excercise. The really sad thing is, they are all fine, decent people, not dirty but ignorant and naive, some hanging on to the “LRH is source” thread, which gets thinner by the second. I feel sorry for them.
Alex
Yuck, get me outahere.
Alex
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Just Me says
Alex, thanks for your research and for reporting here what’s going on in the UK. I think these phone calls are so helpful. In many ways. Thanks again.
Tony DePhillips says
Nice job Alex.
I think you are helping them a lot and that it will sink in.
deElizabethan says
That was splendid Alex. Thanks so much.
remoteviewed says
Alex,
Ran into the same sorta thing here in LA.
I say something like Miscavige should be comm eved and removed from post basically for altering the Tech to practically every SO member that’s come in contact with me since I’ve left.
And all I’ve gotten is a nice TR2 in response.
Sometimes I wonder if there is a palace coup in the works or they are just acking my comm.
Personally I haven’t run into any many actual public (meaning always been public and not former staff) since my departure save two members of the OIC (that’s OT Idiot Committee) and their response was as if I had committed some act of blasphemy for even suggesting that dear leader be subjected to actual justice for the various crimes and high crimes committed.
My conclusion possibly wrong is that Miscavige’s main support comes mostly from public particularly the OTCs who are for the most part ignorant of policy and tech and that many of the staff are to a large degree going along to get along.
What we used to call “White Mutiny”.
Anon says
Great news! Happiness and peace in their future to come. Cheers!
Idle Morgue says
Wow… Whales leaving Scientology in droves!! I noticed many years ago how Scientology treated everyone, regardless of how much you give to the cult…and that is this Organization’s social intercourse in covert invalidation and nullification. I saw this Organization throw everyone under the bus at some point.
At some point people stop letting themselves get hornswoggled and bamboozled by Scientology and do stop breathing life into it! I believe oxygen masks are necessary to keep the cult alive much longer.
It is going down and it’s ship is sinking fast. I wonder where David Miscavige is hiding these days – just one bad day after another – no wonder he can’t finish his “psychos” of action!! LOL
breppen says
Unfortunately SO members think their shit don’t stink and that they are far superior to all men & woman on earth. It wasn’t until I left in 1989 and starting interacting in the real world that I could see that this holier than thou attitude was completely wrong. Not only that it almost got me into some serious trouble as real people can see thru that shit and would have nothing to do with it. It’s also unfortunate that Scientologist’s in general have that holier than thou attitude as well (we’re all better than you wogs), just observe how some of the public act, quite amazing and it gets worse the farther on up the line you go. Now public ask each other what status are they in terms of Ideal Org, IAS, Superpower and look down on you if you are not up there in the status symbol. I remember Deron S. strutting around like he was some sort of king pin for donating $50,000 to the OC idle org & got a little deflated when I asked him how he was going to come up with the money to pay for it…it was all based on future production, poor boy, he’s owned.
Tony DePhillips says
The cults operating level is cowardly 1.1 activities. That is what they specialize in. They duplicate the beingness and the mind of the biggest coward of them all…David Miscaviage. He has to hide behind lawyers and OSA agents covering his cowardly tracks. Instead of being a Man and admitting to his faults, he cannot confront his own “shortcomings” and therefore has to hide like the sniveling coward that he is. Trying to bully everyone in his path. He might have been successful in the short term but in the long term he will lose. It will be such a joy to watch him get his full plate of Karma with all the trimmings.
Hallie Jane says
+! A full banquet of karma!
Calvin B Duffield says
Aha, Ernie and Gaye! At last!!!! My wife, Dorothy was already a class IV Auditor when the Corbett’s came in for services at the Durban Org. Incredible guy, Ernie. So good to hear they have stepped away from the Insanity. These guys just KNOW how to make things happen in a big, big way. Can’t wait for the ‘coming out party.’
Buffy says
What I find so moronic about the rumor they’re spreading that the Corbetts stick their fingers in electric sockets to exteriorize is this: Gaye and Ernest are both OT VIIIs. Gaye did OT VIII in ’88 or ’89 and then did New OT VIII within the last 10 years. Ernest did OT VIII in the last 10 years too. So surely ANYONE with two brain cells would look at that rumor and think to themselves “Huh? They’re OT VIIIs and they still need to stick their fingers in sockets to exteriorize? What does that say about OT VIII?”
I sure hope their 3 children are following their lead and getting out too. The Corbetts are GOOD PEOPLE and its about time abuse of their good intentions ended. POWER TO YOU Gaye and Ernest!!!!!
Joe Pendleton says
Buffy, what it says is that “OT ” 8 is in the final analysis pretty much total bullshit like the rest of the “OT” levels.
sets guy says
🙂
Wendy M says
Yes, Buffy – the red flag started waving furiously in the wind for me, when CO CFO AF told me that that a bunch of OT8’s had an enemy line on Ideal Org programmes. When I asked why she said she did not know but they had just gone mad and were putting out this enemy line. “Huh?” is exactly right What happened to the EP of 8 “at cause over life” – it can make you go “mad”? What did they know that I did not know? There’s going to be a lot of “Huh?” going on here in SA because the Corbetts are very good people – senior and younger generation – collectively and individually – they are very well respected.
Lucy says
Yahoo! Freedom!!!
Tony DePhillips says
Hip, hip, Huraay!! Hip, Hip, Hurray!!! Hip, Hip, Hurrraaayyyy!!!!!!
Bela says
Great news!!
Thoughtful says
Very glad to hear that South Africa is throwing off the yoke of CoS suppression.
barefacedmessiah says
addendum:
Unless the list includes PCs that Pierre Ethier audited before he left the cult.
Paolo says
The tipping point…
Starman8 says
WOW is right!!! I know all about these names as my wife is South African, and my sister-in-law who was “declared” last year knows all too. We visit there yearly. This is enormous. One of the Corbetts was the Joburg senior c/s.
Globetrotter says
“It proves once more – the most prevalent skill of Corporate Scientology is making enemies. Operating in the image of their leader, they have mastered that skill in every respect.”
I’m really starting to wonder if Miscavige is just a dumbass dupe who was bought with unlimited funds by the enemies of Scientology early on to execute just this exact plan – destroy it from the inside.
I mean it is getting less and less credible that someone can be THAT stupid. It’s just too much “stupidity” to be credible that he actually wants Scientology to succeed. Maybe he isn’t as stupid as he seems, maybe he is just paid to do a job? If his goal is the complete destruction of the “church” of Scientology, an inside job, then all his actions make perfect sense.
Aeolus says
He wouldn’t have to be paid by someone else. As a textbook sociopath he is threatened on a visceral level by others becoming stronger and more aware. He wants the money, and power over others, without actually helping anyone. Long term that is an unsustainable path, and we are seeing that unsustainability increasingly come to the surface.
As a version of Occam’s Razor, don’t fashion a conspiracy when one man’s case can explain it all.
remoteviewed says
Sorry Aeolus,
I don’t agree. Miscavige can’t hold the position or location he occupies without consent at least.
Which means a “conspiracy” of some kind.
Peter says
There is nothing inherently wrong with a “conspiracy theory”. It is defined as “two or more people planning or executing an illegality.” That happens countless times every day all over the world, especially within governments…and CULTS!
Jeff says
The whole CST/LRH Libraray thing during Corporate Sort-Out always made me think….Especially the Meade Emory bit. Claims that it was merely a bait-and-switch “shell”, notwithstanding.
And in my raging paranoia, I thought this:
What if LRH really was working for the CIA or the FBI? His job – Founding the first and only government ‘approved’ religion in US history.
What if the whole IRS ‘battle’ was in fact a scam to make the ‘religious persecution’ angle stick. Put on a show. Make it look believable.
What if, after LRH dropped the body, the RCS’s actual handlers finally called in DM and said “OK, good job guys….Now here’s your tax exemption, and here’s your Tax Enforcement Team for every Org.” Of course, that’s what they give the appearence of doing, but that’s not what they actually are.
What better front for illegal/covert activities and running black ops than a mutli-national “religious” organization that can move staff freely from place to place, country to country while avoiding virtually all employment laws and international agreements, all under the umbrella of “religious practices?”
Drugs, guns, slaves (I mean, Sea Org members)…any nubmer of things can be moved about under religious proctections. What government agency has been given the green light to interfere?
And the game was fun while it lasted, but now DM – total nutbag or no – is stuck in a self-destruct sequence, by design or accident, and who can really say which?
Will his handlers care? They’ve made alot of money.
Will they care about Scientologists? Likely not, but then, you can’t get blubber from whale skeletons.
The carcass is damn-near picked clean anyhow.
All that’s left is the real estate.
I think the game has run it’s course, and the first genuine, bonafide Federal ‘religion’ experiment has ended as a resounding success!
remoteviewed says
Jeff,
I agree.
That “resounding success” is typical gov mint work 😉
As ‘Nam vets I knew would say:
FUBAR
Carcha says
Jeff,
Adding to the logical train of thought:
What if what we think we are seeing really isn’t what we are seeing at all?
Then all of Scientology would be a complete farce!
BUT … that wouldn’t matter since it all would be a complete farce – everything!
Then this blog is also part of the vast, underground/ above ground conspiracy?!
And we’re replying to what we ourselves wrote – only.
Which means each of us is a part of the government!
ONLY … it doesn’t matter! There is no government!
And we are all a part of nothing, just like Hemingway wrote … oh, wait ….
(I think this is why Hubbard wrote the Data Series, because of little things like omitted data. It seems that all logic must be based on the premise that there is cause and effect. Otherwise, you have the ridiculous. This is, almost literally, incredibly simple. I think the corollary or second axiom would be that all logic must be based on observation. Scientology is based on observation. Some care to not observe, and so omit data, and there you have nascent illogic.)
Just chatting.
Carcha
remoteviewed says
Globetrotter,
That’s always been my “Working Theory”.
Aside from that is the blatant evidence that Miscavige is suffering from Psychosis as covered in the HCOB AKA C/S series 22 by that title.
As it seems whatever he orders from his lofty position as “COB RTC” or as “Dept 21” as he calls himself leads to eventual destruction.
For example:
GAT, GAK and this whole “Ideal Org” program. Not to mention the Super Power Project which ostensibly lead toward “expansion” but in fact counterintuitively lead toward destruction.
Interesting on the blog Mike linked to that they mention how they handle the public with rumors and whispering campaigns. An action that was mainly reserved to the GO especially when Jane and Mo pretty much let the other branches whither and die and fixated on Branch 5 activities.
(As covered in HCOPL 1 March 1966 The Guardian)
Known as “Special Actions” by the KGB which specialized of Disinformation and Black Propaganda.
(Not just the Soviets but the British SIS or MI6 under in what was known as Dept XX which the OSS picked up and bequeathed to State Department’s OPC (Office of Policy Coordination) which was later transferred to CIA became adapt as well in the black arts of character assassination and Agitprop.)
Now these “special actions” once reserved the GO have spread through the whole organization like a killer virus.
The fact is they have nothing to declare them suppressive for except questioning the wisdom of “management” and besides once they do they will have no leverage. So instead they will use these “crimes” which they can not prove as a method of coercing them back into line.
An old trick used by totalitarian regimes and sects since the dawn of time. The only thing different is the methods have been refined.
Problem is that when people become aware of these methods of manipulation and control which they obviously have if I’ve read the blog correctly then they do not have as much force or power as they once had and eventually lead to revolt which we see is happening right now.
1984 says
The evidence says that that is the intention / plan. If DM is so stupid, then he has handlers.
Either way, keep pulling the string.
Just Me says
LOL! No way. Who would want the p.o.s. that Co$ is.
Hallie Jane says
I agree Globetrotter. The dismantling has been too systematic to be accidental. But it would take a sociopath to agree to this also. Birds of a feather.
WhiteStar says
he IS getting paid to do a job and he is doing the job he is paid to do. who is paying him?
it’s really no great mystery, in fact it is plain to see.
Mike made an excellent analogy.
Would Buddhists have followed Miscavige if he had taken over as the new dalai lama?
think about it and then realize the Corbetts, to name some, have decided to no longer to pay him.
the conspirator’s numbers are shrinking by the day, once the dwindling spiral is complete, the conspiracy will end and davie will be clapped in irons.
sometimes people long for and chase after the one thing they need to make themselves whole, only to discover they had it all along.
“Oz never did give nothing to the tin man that he didn’t already have”.
Sometimes late when things are real
And people share the gift of gab between themselves
Some are quick to take the bait
And catch the perfect prize that waits among the shelves
But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn’t, didn’t already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad.
So please believe in me
When I say I’m spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain bright color
Image going down, down, down, down
Soapsuds green like bubbles
Carcha says
I’m really surprised by this little sub-thread here. Are you guys being facetious? There’s this little datum that evil is destructive to itself, and is incapable of making a “plan” other than destruction. I.e. It does not survive.
Love survives, not hate.
Globetrotter says
Well… I see plenty of evil surviving pretty well and making neat progress on long term evil plans in our world today…
Maybe you should compare your “little datum” and the actual world, look for yourself and see if the world is really that black and white or maybe a bit more complex.
Carcha says
Well, it’s not “my” little datum, that an SP is PTS to himself. And if you wish to attribute survival to evil, if you wish to call ill-gotten gains “survival,” then I guess that’s your mistake to make – but it is a bad one.
Suspicion exists only in the absence of facts. And it usually leads to massacres, a la French Revolution, Inquisitions, Witch Trials, and so on.
1984 says
I agree, GT.
Ability to confront includes the willingness to confront evil. (Evil’s best defense is the unwillingness of most people to confront it. It is uncomfortable.)
SILVIA says
Yes, we may not have all figures, but I am certain that many, many more are leaving the Church at international level. I wonder, if a census were to be made, the numbers of people out of the church will be far more greater than those who still remain as slaves.
Either by lawsuits, departures of members and his own insanity the Devil Moron has lost big time.
Jane Doe says
So many have left the church but are under the radar because of the disconnection policy (which DOES exist), that a census would not give an accurate count. The ones under the radar are pretending to still be on board just to avoid losing their loved ones, and so they might not admit they have left the church. Still it would be a wonderful idea to do a census that made it so confidential that no one could trace who was under the radar. Then you’d get some startling numbers and as you say, probably more are out than are in.
1984 says
Speaking of the Devil Moron, has anyone seen him about recently?
He seems to be in hiding. (Maybe he traded places with Shelly.)
Jane Doe says
I think security at Int Base should do a bed check for Miscavage every night (And check his secretary’s bed too), and if he isn’t at either place, do the full Blow Drill to drag his ass back. Would be fun to turn the tables on him and do a blow drill. But actually that probably wouldn’t work cuz nobody wants him back. lol
Richard Grant (@richardgrant) says
Well that’s fascinating, though the linked blog post only provides hints about what must be a longer, deeper, and more sordid tale.
Once again, the “church” comes off looking both sinister and clownish, like the villain in an old Hollywood serial. I mean: spreading a rumor that the Corbetts “put their fingers in electric sockets to exteriorize”? Are we in middle school?
This development seems like a healthy one for the community in South Africa. As Tory/Magoo likes to remind everyone, all you have to is cross the street — her metaphor for leaving RCS — and you realize that many of your friends are already on the other side, and the world looks much brighter over there.
barefacedmessiah says
WOW!
Hard to believe for readers here. But I have tears of relief dropping down. My family life might change soon. Is 2014 going to be the year?
I am charged like mad. There has been so much injustice going on in the last four years. It ruined everyones life in my family. Much of the depression, sleepless nights and my inability to eat that I have gone through … It is blowing just because of that “hope” factor. The court cases and now this tiny thing on top. It starts spilling over :’)
Instant tears without auditing, what a relief :’)
I wish I could entirely share these feelings with you!
Bela says
You just DID share your feelings with us! Thanks. Thoughts are with you for the best to come!
indie8million says
Thank you, BFM. Manga, manga! Now feast in the truth, BFM. We are being dupicated and our comm (even though via others such as the Corbett’s and Laura DeCrescenzo’s day in court this week) IS being acknowledged.
Breath in, breath out. Repeat. Eat. 😉
Cooper Kessel says
and now it is Corona time. A great week indeed!!!!
Hallie Jane says
Great advice everyone! BareFM, I wish you and your family swift healing and lots of love and prosperity. It’s been a very deep betrayal and it does take time to recover. Be good to yourselves and best wishes.
Aquamarine says
A big, warm hug to you, BFM, with my hearty ack for what you’ve shared. We get it, believe me! Peace and love to you.
DollarMorgue says
Wow. It’s good to see more blogs. People will not be ruled by fear forever.
I wish you guys in South Africa the best, and that you achieve your stated pupose – back in comm!
Jane Doe says
I also wish you South Africans the best. This is great news that the kingpins there have left the building.
“And those Scientologists who refuse to look are happy to accept the rumors without question. Every Scientologist must, however ask themselves this question: If the church is willing to treat its luminaries in this fashion what will they be willing to do to me?”
This is also happening in America. The covert Black PR of character and telling others to disconnect from you, without ever showing them anything in writing, without ever issuing goldenrod on the person, without any Com Ev, and without having to backup any of the Black PR comments said behind your back by showing proof, and where you can’t be there to defend yourself, this is being done now in America as well. These Black Ops were used on me and on others that I know too. The church has sunk to a new low of covert operations that make the mafia and CIA look like Sunday School boys.
But I believe you reap what you sow so the Church and David Miscavage and all his minions really have a bleak future in store for them. Couldn’t happen to more deserving people.
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DollarMorgue says
Same covert ops in Europe. This is RTC’s SOP WW.
indie8million says
+1
Jeff says
I think it quite telling that dedicated Scientologists of long duration and commitment are jumping off the sinking SS COB….Another quite telling effect of all this is that in the last five years, more books detailing the abuses of DM and the irregularities of the RCS have come out – virtually uncontested – than in the previous three decades combined.
There are too many holes in the hull to plug now….man the life boats!
How does DM plan to get the money out of the Idle Morgues before he heads for safety of the Vaults….a yard sale?
As for DM’s “minions”…Surely, there are not many left. The few that remain are surely in in the Hole by now.
Buffy says
Jeff, my guess is that when enough orgs are ideal and its time for Him to get out and disappear, He’s going to mortgage every one of the ideal orgs to the hilt (since the ideal org buildings are owned by an entity He controls), take the money, fake his own death and disappear. Then Scn will be bankrupt and finished with.
vinaire says
What does RCS stand for?
greenonwhite says
Radical Corporate Scn.
vinaire says
Thank you. I thought it was the Republican Church of Scientology for some reason. Haha.
Peter says
What utterly wonderful news, Mike! The Corbetts, for sure, are also well known to the US and Mexican whales. The word will now spread at a much higher level. Superb!