Hear ye, hear ye. Step right up.
We need your money for a new scheme to clear the planet.
Note well: this adds to but does not take away from the IAS, Ideal Orgs, LRH Hall, New Advanced Orgs, Books Into Libraries, CCHR, WTH Campaigns or the David Miscavige Birthday Fund — each of which is THE solution to planetary clearing.
It’s the Campaign for a Scientology Global Media Center.
Here is how it works: Miscavige buys a wacky building, tells everyone it’s the “global media center” and then proceeds to demand money to “make it happen”….
Never “dreamed of before”? Seriously? They have not only dreamed, Miscavige hisself has CLAIMED they already had 3 different “global dissemination centers” and also claimed that they already had this new one too (didn’t mention in his announcement that you need to give me money before I get it rolling).
First it was Golden Era Productions: the “state of the art audio-visual dissemination center of Scientology”, then the new Bridge printing and CD manufacturing building which was also a “state of the art dissemination plant” and then finally with the “International Dissemination Center” that Miscavige showed at an event and announced as another “state of the art international dissemination center” to produce ALL promotion needed by all orgs and missions.
Now, he also announced this purchase and crowed about how it was going to “make planetary clearing a reality”. Funny, they bought the place in APRIL 2011. They paid a reported $42 MILLION DOLLARS according to Reuters, a story in which Karin Pouw may have made her last public statement, proclaiming: “The church plans to establish a central media hub for our growing world network of churches and to move into the production of religious television and radio broadcasting.”
Miscavige spent more than $40 million to buy a property to “make planetary clearing a reality,” and now 3 years later they are “doing the fundraise” so it can be put into action? It’s now just a “dream”, to be made a reality with your hard earned cash.
Don’t ANY of these knuckleheads see how insane this is? THIS is supposedly what is going to Clear the Planet, they drop $40 mil on it but then don’t get it into use because they need to “renovate” it first and “don’t have the money until you cough it up.”
The reality is that a property like this (or the ideal org buildings they buy) is purchased for tax purposes. A 501(c)3 exempt organization cannot accumulate too much unspent reserves. The money they take in must be used “for the public benefit.” But it’s no good throwing money down the drain building schools in Asia or providing food to disaster victims or mosquito nets to African villages. The IRS considers it to be a charitable purpose to buy property to “minister to your flock” or “disseminate the faith”. So, buying buildings keeps some semblance of conforming to the Internal Revenue Code without reducing the assets of the church (there is no drop in total assets, just a shift from cash to property). But the genius of it is that it can also be used to raise MORE MONEY.
Amazing how you can sucker people.
I could be rich if I didn’t believe in karma.
Laser vision analysis, Mike. This rings so true.
The following occurred to me: If DM started unloading real estate at some point through his control of the IAS, is it possible that he could get away with stashing the proceeds outside of US beyond the jurisdiction of the IRS?
For properties outside the US, of course, they are not under IRS purview. Inside the US, no. But there is virtually no oversight of exempt organizations.
Mike,
Things have changed recently. There are new banking laws since July 15th 2014 allowing the IRS
far more control over banks outside of the US, that is as far as US citizens are concerned.
This is to curb the flight of the crumbling $ out of US into other safer, more stable currencies.
Greta
Greta — banking laws are not the problem. The IRS is very limited in what it can do with churches — there is even a “Church Audit Procedures Act”, a law passed by Congress to limit IRS authority over churches.
HEY!!! Any of your guys in the federal, state or otherwise legal arena, who are reading this and who might give a shit, ‘cuz it’s your JOB, …..Ummmm….. WHEN are you gonna jump on this? Are you bought? Paid off? Or what? The silence is pretty obvious and pathetic.
The amount of criminality going on here is TO THE MOON and y’all cannot get it together to investigate thoroughly….?
No, the person with the most money is NOT the one who is right. PLEASE DO SOMETHING!
Due diligence, boys. No one on this blog is interested in making up stories–we’ve all actually experienced this stuff. Get it together, stop taking so long! You will find the most UNBELIEVABLE crimes beneath the “church” of scientology, the fraud, lies, “tax exempt” (excuse me…baarfff!) and the like. Do your friggin’ homework. There is SOOOOO much on this blog and other ones for you to look into.
INVESTIGATE, dammit!!!!!!! And finish these guys off!
Gato Rojo,
I’m afraid the persons you wish would do something would rather eat a shit sandwich.
Take OJ trial 101 as a history lesson. You can get away with murder with the right
legal team. Then write a book about it, go golfing with cronies,etc.
I hear ya. I have had some experience in these areas since I’ve been out in the world. You are 100% correct. But I’m just going to keep stirring the kitty box every so often anyway.
Gato,
The whole seething bunch has enough mutual out ruds to choke the whales that feed them …… inside and outside of the cult! The shit sandwich is heading for Hemet as well!
This would just be stupid and wasteful if it wasn’t so greedy and evil.
I’ve been away for 2 days and just got caught up on the articles from 8/15 thru today’s 8/17. Out of Mike’s articles and all the comments, a very strong thought sprang into mind: Is it possible that Miscavige is actively trying to SPEED the cult’s demise? That, at this point, he KNOWS its over, and he just wants it to be over as fast as possible? Because, in various ways, and seemingly without concern, he is certainly taking a pro-active approach to getting rid of people. I’m thinking, maybe he’s sick of it all by now, and really wants it to be over.
Aquamarine – if the Co$ goes down so go the assets, due to the laws on dissolution of non-profit, tax exempt organisations. Thus DM’s best interest is to maintain the appearance of church operation/expansion. Other options of emptying out the till would be a lot less legally defendable than even the current state of affairs.
Off topic but I just got a written invitation to join the Sea Org, folks! The personal letter, the earnest appeal, the survey to fill out…things must be in a desperate state if they’re outflowing to Known Disaffecteds such as myself. I never even get invited to events anymore (thank God), and out of the blue comes this honor!
Well, outflow equals inflow, and all that. Here’s postulating they pull in some teenager from a poverty-stricken 3rd world family who will be thrilled to get a permanent roof over his/her head, a uniform to wear no matter how ill-fitting, and some regular meals albeit with rice and beans as a staple food, and the opportunity to emigrate to America. For really poor people this is quite a step up in the world, and I’m not joking. Everything is relative.
“Everything is relative”
You’re not kidding Aquamarine. Especially in the RCS, where all the lines are blurred and there is no clear sense of boundaries. What is or isn’t considered socially acceptable is not finely understood by the parishioners and staff, who passively go along with one money-grubbing scheme to the next, as though their lives and eternity depends on it.
The clock is ticking however, this cannot go on forever, that’s for sure. People are waking up everyday and when they do, “it’s a Done!”
You got that right Aquamarine!
The last MAA I had at Flag was from Russia, 20 something wet behind the ears. She had only been in Scn 9 months and English was still a problem for her. So she had the ear piece and the room had the hidden camera and there was an older, American staff member watching the whole interview and talking in her ear telling her what to say to me because she was so new to her post as MAA and because English was a second language for her and she was still trying to master it. And I’m sure she was thrilled to immigrate to this country for a better life, even if it is in almost slavery at the C of $.
Pepper and Cindy,
Yeah, the Sea Org has their own Emma Lazarus thing going: “Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, yearning to clear the planet…”
I have to laugh at how they want to make the world a saner place when quite clearly they are totally crazy themselves.
Me too Pedro. I frequently laugh about how crazy they are when reading their “send is more money right now” requests. When I read the Planetary Dissemination poster I wondered why there were quotes around the text. Were they trying to imply that this was LRH writing?
If you invert the second paragraph by simply substituting “inside” for “outside” it suddenly makes perfect but scary sense. I wonder why they don’t see that?
Pedro, they are just as insane as Jim Jones and his nightmare, Jonestown.
What do you think the IRS could and should do, to get a foothold back at what Scientology’s doing?
It seems some budding young IRS people ought to be inspired with some realistic long range action that might in the decades to come, be something they could do fruitfully against Scientology, newly, even if right now the IRS is ignoring the Scientology problem they’ve created.
That’s not how things work inside the IRS. The church got the whales to pay to the IRS what they were illegally hiding, years ago. And, the church keeps the pressure up now for members to pay Fed taxes. The IRS is VERY happy with DM being one of their field enforcers.
“The money they take in must be used “for the public benefit.” But it’s no good throwing money down the drain building schools in Asia or providing food to disaster victims or mosquito nets to African villages. The IRS considers it to be a charitable purpose to buy property to “minister to your flock” or “disseminate the faith”. So, buying buildings keeps some semblance of conforming to the Internal Revenue Code without reducing the assets of the church (there is no drop in total assets, just a shift from cash to property). But the genius of it is that it can also be used to raise MORE MONEY.”
“Amazing how you can sucker people.”
Why don’t they spend a little money on the downtrodden majority out there in the world more directly?
It’s seems such an easy solution, were they to flow some of their funds to the causes you listed, that would be irrefutable.
Do you think the IRS would be placated if Scientology did such major funding directly towards the downtrodden?
That seems like a quick get out of trouble with the IRS move!
Maybe the IRS just needs to headfake Miscavige, to get some of Scientology’s accumulated wealth moving back out helping actual earthlings, like other religions supposedly also are doing.
“At levels of magnitude never dreamed of before” twice on the same page? Apart from the fact that the phrase as it stands is nonsense, somebody’s nodding.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/marksshoops/14128676982/
Unfortunately the wife of one of my friends who is still in got hoodwinked by this TV station scam when she was recently in LA. My friend, who is well aware of much of the crap in the Church, but who still has not made the break, was suitably disgusted when I told him the Church had already bought the TV station in 2011. This is one of their most dishonest scams yet, but we can see this kind of criminal garbage from MR SCUMBAG DAVID MISCAVIGE is not going to stop, it is only going to get more outrageous as time goes on. Miscavige is a criminal apparently beyond redemption.
I wonder whether the difference between the greatly reduced slave labor costs of the Capital Improvements versus real-world costs are pocketed or somehow hidden. And these Capital Improvements are reflected in higher valuations when the properties are sold.
David Miscavige Birthday fund.
That is so damn sick, no words.
Or get an internet radio station like “Surviving Scientology Radio” With Jeffrey Augustine. You could learn a lot from Jeffrey.
KCET was purchased ” Turn key” fully equipped and in working condition.
No it didn’t have any “Clearsound” bullshit or marble floors and 72 times redesigned custom furniture etc, vut they could have broadcast their BS videos the next morning IF the FCC gave them a broadcast license and a sayellite provider would sell them transponder time.
But Nooooooo, it’s not to Davey boy ‘s “Ideal Bullshit” standards.
By the time even space planning gets approved for the umpteenth time the place will be out of date (like everything to do with RCo$ management)
IT AIN’T THE FIFTIES ANYMORE!!!!
Last year I was drafting space plans for this media center. A couple times a week I’d be drawing yet another version after umpteen previous versions had been submitted.
I watched my seniors agonize over how many dozen video editing stations were needed, how many dozen recording booths, how many of this post and that would make the perfect layout to produce mass volumes of video and radio shows.
But the reality is that no matter how perfect the facility and how great the volume of shows, as soon as the word Scientology is mentioned, viewers will switch stations as fast as they can press the button.
Good to hear that you got out of DM’s space planning squirrel cage.
Paul Burkhart, where have you been? Finbrain wants to know?
Hey Dave, You have had nearly three decades to disseminate Scn since LRH bailed. All you have accomplished is an empty building?
So how much money for Pipsqueak is enough?
This is a man who cannot be bought for any price.
But keep trying….
What a guy.
No limit to the greed of Mustgrabbit.
Great point, re buying real estate for no other reason than to keep your ledger ostensibly honest vis a vis the IRS. I wonder, though, how much of a concern that really is, since DM so casually flaunts so much other “non religious purpose” conduct (e.g., inurement, child labor violations, etc.) in plain enough view of the seemingly disinterested IRS. That said, there could be a gulf between how the IRS threat is perceived internally, and in what ways, and the reality behind IRS doors. Wondering if you could speak to that Mike. Thanks.
Scott — nice to see you here.
This probably requires a much more lengthy response, and this is my opinion as I am many years out of date.
Things that can be proven or disproven by bank account records are of more concern to Miscavige. Even though the IRS is not in any hurry to do anything about the church, this (and iunurement) are two areas that they feel more vulnerable on as there is no “First Amendment” defense. Violations of public policy are far harder for anyone to prosecute because they can always be claimed as “voluntary religious practice.”
Inurement is watched carefully. Miscavige and Monique know the bounds proscribed by the IRS on this — you don’t have to look far to find private jets and large houses and high six figure incomes for exempt organizations passing muster. Miscavige keeps himself within those parameters.
What is not so easy to deal with is the sheer volume of income. When Miscavige stands on stage presenting awards to people who donate $10 million to the IAS and the lists of donors is public knowledge and so you can add up how much is collected at least ballpark, this is a concern. Because anyone can see they are taking in a LOT of money and if there is nothing to show for it in terms of spending, it’s a real vulnerability. Being able to point to expensive buildings is an easy answer and is likely to end any inquiries.
The IRS is still the largest single threat to Miscavige, but he knows how to play the game. And he has some expensive lawyers who oversee things.
This is not to say I don’t believe the church long since stopped being a legitimate 501(c)3 — if it ever was, though during the time of the IRS negotiations and the subsequent 5 year oversight, it was a LOT more carefully within the parameters — and I believe Miscavige banks on the fact that nobody in the IRS wants to take on a crusade that will take them to retirement to undo the exemption. So, he games the system, but I am quite sure this is one area that he feels something HAS to be done about, and Monique Yingling is no doubt telling him the same thing. So, it’s pretty easy to buy real estate. And he has a new spin which is to then use it to raise more money.
Thanks Mike, for both the response and the welcome. Yes, that does make a lot sense–control what you can,and what’ll appear on a Form 990, and at the very least you’ll be able to make a plausible argument should the time ever come. Of course, we–and the IRS–are only seeing one side of the ledger. That is, we know what CSI et al are spending their money on, but can only speculate how much is in the account–they could be spending 99%, 50%, or 1% of reserves on real estate. True, some donations are “transparent” in that they’re announced publicly–a necessary nuisance/evil perhaps, seeing how the millionaire donors need public ego-stroking–and are thus on the record.
But donations are probably the only source of revenue that is transparent, or at least available with minimal research (e.g., auditing, investing, real estate are all more difficult to pin down). One thing I’ve always been curious about, and it relates to your topic, is revenue generated from the rent and buying/selling of real estate. Maybe someone’s written about that, though I imagine it’d be difficult because such activity is difficult to amass since it exists in varied public sources (it’s not as if you can set a google alert for it).
Re the IRS, I don’t think they have the stomach (or personnel) for any challenge and the DM would need to be caught on camera, say, performing a ritual blood sacrifice, before the IRS would be stirred to act. The IRS made it pretty clear during the two Sklar cases that they’re unambiguously in Scientology’s corner for now, refusing to even admit the veracity of the Secret Agreement published by the WSJ. I’ve been hoping for years that the IRS might be shamed into conceding the farce it helped create. At this point, though, I think it would take an incident that transcends Scn’s garden variety egregiousness, where the public debate dominates mainstream media news coverage, for the IRS to move off its ass.
Scoot — we are seeing this through the same eyes. Your assessment is how I would describe it, though probably less clearly and eloquently.
In the overall scheme of things, rent is and money made from property investments is tiny. Virtually no property is ever sold so any gains are realized on paper. Virtually no rent is collected from anyone — even where some orgs pay “rent” it’s only a different significance on the money they pay “up lines”. If it was not for rent it would be for something else. Every penny that can possibly be extracted from orgs is gotten. These are really internal transfers of funds within the overall corporate hierarchy of scientology. There are 5 sources of income for scientology that are from outside the corporations, not internal transfers:
1. Fundraising — which is now the biggest source
2. Sale of auditing and training
3. Sales of books, meters, CDs
4. Hotel/restaurant income at Flag, CC Int, Freewinds
5. Money made on investments or currency trading.
With the amount of money they have, number 5 should be the BIGGEST source of income, but it isn’t. They are not good at this as they are stuck following strange Hubbard directives on how to invest money.
Interesting dialogue 🙂
I’ve been wondering if all the IAS / buildings / etc donations are completely outside the scope of what we can see (shadows of) in the 990 forms? Would they have to be visible in order for the donors to claim tax relief? I’ve been wondering because the IAS is (as I understand it) off-shore, and it appeared just about crude enough[1] for the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology: Millionaire doesn’t like paying tax on last dollar earned so he writes a cheque to an off-shore bank account and writes off that money as a tax free donation[2]. What happens afterwards is up to the holders of that off-shore account, but a straight-forward split of the percentage that would have been due in taxes and everybody wins. Everbody except the taxpayers, but they don’t have standing to sue the Co$.
[1] Before you say that this is not subtle enough, I give you the narCONon double billing insurance fraud complete with e-mail trail…
[2] This is where my theory breaks down: surely the IRS is not THAT stupid?
Donors claim tax deductions because the entities they give money to are recognized as tax exempt. So, in the US, money given to the IAS (the US IAS Members Trust) is deductible as that entity is recognized by the IRS (as are all US churches and missions and CCHR and all sorts of other entities). The key is who takes in the income, not what happens after that. Of course, money taken in by entities outside the US is outside the scope of the IRS as long as the money is not sent to the US. THat is the purview of the tax authority in whatever jurisdiction it is taken in.
I cling to a small footnote (19) from the recent response to Monique’s Anti-SLAPP case: “….In fact, the Ninth Circuit has noted that, given the opportunity to rule on the IRS’s deal with Scientology, it would likely invalidate the tax-exemption deal.“
The overwhelming hype they blanket on themselves keeps the suckers distractedly happy enough and blindered in their science fiction narrative superficiality.
The Carla Moxon talk, to me, says it all of their logical thinking ability:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZXc_IcgV7Y
Hello Chuck,
I have seen this video before and have had a question about it. Sorry, I have to ask.
Carla Moxon is speaking to a Mad Hatters group. Is this a video of a public speaking exercise, where you could make up anything to talk about, and is
Carla being facetious or could she actually be serious? I don’t know her and have never been to a Mad Hatters meeting, so I don’t know exactly what they do.
Scientologists who have been around the OT Scientologists who give their OT wins (supernatural testimonials) take her as Scientology value, which means YES, they do believe this happened, and that they did do as Carla said, meaning she and her husband went out of their bodies up to that “star” and did what she said they did.
The audience is a group of Scientologists mostly, there are many other videos of other speech giving members of that club, and Carla’s is more slanted like an “OT win” that is pretty wild, but they and the Scientologists would take it serliously.
Now, in fairness, in Scientology history, there is a whole sub history of Scientologists who give over the top OT wins, and as respectful average Scientologists, you wouldn’t invalidate a fellow Scientologist giving a testimonial that you know that that person’s Case Supervisor would think is even delusional.
Meaning tech wise, in the church, the far-fetched wins (testimonials) that are obviously fantasy and untrue, then we politiely let our Scientologist utter their inflated delusional nonsense, but we know it cannot be true.
Now, the limits of supernatural testimonials is a silent tacit zone. Hubbard says let the person have their wins, and if they are deluded about this or that, in time, their case will sort out and they will realize their own delusion.
So technically, the highest Case Supervisors in Scientology would let Carla “have her win”, but they would NOT comment that Carla is delusional, and let Carla eventually get to that realization about this incident, which Carla obviously thinks was real. They would accept Hubbard’s technical rule to let the patient (preclear is Hubbard’s word for that role) come to the conclusion that this or that incident in their lives was NOT real.
That attitude is also known and is how it is, at the highest technically trained members of the movement, they will let their fellows have their delusional testimonials, but they won’t necessarily believe the wild testimonials, and Carla apprears very much to be a problamatic wife of the Scientology lead attorney Kendrick Moxon!
Carla’s not really risen to the point case wise to tell fully what of her experiences, this one in particular, were in fact NOT real, so that’s why she’s a problematic member.
There are others. THere are all gradients of Scientologists believing in supernatural things, many in Office of Special Affairs are conspiracy minded types.
The Scientology supernatural OT stuff allows for this problem in their membership.
So to answer your question, the members in Scientology who are more normal realistic types, would think Carla was being delusional, but they’d also know that was the state of her case, and that real OT supernatural stuff does and will happen and be more real later, for Carla, as Carla’s own case gets “handled” down the road!
Scientology still thinks the OT supernatural stuff is still out there to be gotten and attained! Like simple out of the body travel at will by everyone who go up the Hubbard Bridge to Total Freedom (even though no one has done so yet)!
To Chuck,
This is an interesting subject although off thread (my questions). I have often wondered about the boundaries on openly talking about “space opera” and when it is considered actually real, or problematic as you say (an individual’s case state), or when it becomes J&D (joking and degrading) and is used to entertain people with, like I thought Carla might being doing. Not that I ever thought Carla would J&D anything Scn, she seems pretty hard-core to me. Yet her story is so bizarre and would also require her husband to validate it. It’s not entirely subjective, so I didn’t know what to make of it in a fair sense.
It can be a little confusing because people can and do make fun of space opera topics and yet it is part of the belief system in Scn. I have also seen fellow students get in trouble or told off when they cracked jokes about it in the orgs.
LRH also talked about space opera in his writings and lectures, like on OT levels (confidential) but also in some lectures too. Then you hear individual public talk about being on other planets, Marcab society, and such. Implanting is space opera. The SO recruiters also talk space opera to the recruits re: The Loyal Officers story and Mars implanting station. There are lots of examples when you look at it. One might say that I don’t understand the definition of space opera but I think any activity not happening in real time on planet Earth with yourself, others or “beings” pretty much falls into the category of space opera. In a nutshell.
Your explanation is a good one and I appreciate you taking the time to answer me and share your understanding. Thank you.
Great thread!
Scientology offers so many avenues that bewilder and keep members’ minds distracted into all the supposed groups that make the world a better place, and which legitimize Scientology’s grand goals!
Isn’t it funny that the “Global Media Center” doesn’t bother utilizing the one global medium that exists these days, the Internet? They could actually utilize that for fundraising to subsidize the dissemination of LRH materials to the public and…oh, wait, pretty much everything on both sides of the Bridge can be downloaded via torrent for free (see the South African blog for links). Or you can get it off of The Pirate Bay via torrent. Or you can get most of the Bridge off of Wikileaks.
And none of this probably would have happened if Helena “Cobra” Kobrin hadn’t been such a complete and utter fuckhead to a.r.s. back in the 90s, or Ava Paquette hadn’t tried to silence YouTube from showing the Tom Cruise video and then tried to silence Anonymous members with her Avagram threats (which proceeded to be shown at protests as badges of honor by Anons who received them). They didn’t even bother trying to assemble a coherent Net strategy until the late 2000s (according to Geir Isene, who was involved in this).
They could have had it all. More dissemination, new bodies in shop, everything they wanted. Except:
1) Ron said that books make booms. Ron never said anything about .mobi, .epub, or .pdf. And as we’ve seen since 2007 and the Basics, Ron was wrong.
2) Instead of trying to understand a new paradigm, they lashed out against inevitable change, despite the numerous examples from history that shows the inevitable destruction brought against those doing the lashing out.
3) KSW wouldn’t have allowed them to do it in the first place. Ron never said anything about the Internet or about electronic publishing (or for that matter, about e-mail or PGP encryption, which makes us on the outside go “LOL Telex”), so it has to be avoided at all costs.
Adapt or die. It’s a simple extension of “survival of the fittest”, and right now, Scientology has the same level of fitness as a one-hundred-fifty-kilogram four-pack-a-day smoker.
Adapt or die. It’s a simple extension of “survival of the fittest”
An accurate observation in my view and one that was made by Janet Reitman in her book.
The problem is that fundamentalist scientologists cannot “adapt” to anything because they are bound by the words of LRH. It’s why I have commented a few times that they cannot accept registered mail, but will take FedEx or UPS packages that have to be signed for. Registered mail is “forbidden” by policy. FedEx/UPS are not.
Of course I guess Scientologists COULD apply HCO PL Expansion Theory of Policy which says that you always interpret policy in terms of expansion and thus adapt to changing circumstances. The real problem in the Scientology world is that it is a totalitarian authoritarian organization …… and these kinds of groups are not known for their free thought, innovation or applied imagination and NEVER are able to be flexible organizationally.
Mike, you’re playing my tune baby! I’ve been writing for four years now on the blogs that Miscavige is a freakin’ genius in his chosen field. The real question should be why WOULDN’T he keep coming up with project after project for the sheeple to fund? Once he observed that the sheeple would think he was still “clearing the planet” even as the church kept declaring experienced auditors in droves, I think he understood how truly bad off his public was and how easily they can be controlled. If they will buy clearing the place with no auditors they will buy anything and I do mean BUY!
Just do it Scientology. Create your media center. You got the $. And if it’s going to do what you say, and obviously you have no doubt it will, then just do it. All the people that will be flooding in will more than pay for the cost. Anyone who is still in, just think about this. Maybe there’s another motive here huh?
Yes, I’d love them to waste all that money as well. It really will pull off Planetary Dissemination. But why just limit your sights to Earth? Start up the ad campaigns now: “It’ll put LRH Tech right up Uranus!”
DM is a parasite on Scientology that is killing the host. Wake-up and leave before its too late. I saw them coming and close the missions and I did nothing, I saw them come and destroy the Field Auditors and I said nothing , I saw them create the IAS and credited it to
LRH and I did nothing, I saw them corrupt the tech and change what an FN was, and I did nothing, I saw them rip-off people for big buildings that are empty and I said nothing,
I saw them create GAT II and I finally left. Please get out now before they come for you.
Thank you, GOB
My sentiments exactly!
Question, for anyone living in Clearwater. Is Jill Mantalas/Orlando/Vannier still pretending to be a Scientologist? Last I saw her she was talking about SCN being a cult and telling me about a conversation she had with Marty and how she wasn’t a Scientologist anymore and never really had been, and now it looks like she’s since married a Kool Aid drinker who knocked her up. Anyone have data?
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“What do you mean it’s only available on…what do you call it? a CD? What’s that? Haven’t you ever heard of a download? Not on iTunes? Screw it!” – every single person under 35 on Earth.
We’re working on it Espiando. Does anyone know how to contact Steve Jobs?
So you expect me to finally throw out my 78 rpm record collection? I’ll do that when they pry my wire recorder out of my cold dead hands.
Oh holy shite! I just got a picture of a permanent 24/7 all year-round radio/TV channel with the booming voice of Pomerantz followed up by Sherman sermons and those God-awful theety-weety “I am a Scientologist and I am so happy and life is just wonderful” video shots..
Can you just imagine being bombarded with this ALL the time???
I worked in Div6 and these bloody videos played all day – every day – it was insane. And the testing area was slap-bang in the middle of all these videos playing simultaneously while these poor second-language guys tried to grapple their way through 200 questions of an OCA.
I could only be in the area for max 10 minutes before I had to duck out the back door for a smoke and some peaceful road traffic noise.
The implanting is about to be stepped up a notch.
I love the imagery in your post BP! Filling out the OCA test even if you don’t speak a word of English is no real challenge. Five university grad student friends did a research project on the OCA test one day at the local org. And wouldn’t you know it, when we compared notes in the pub afterwards we all got similar results including the one that just made alternating answers down the page in a pretty pattern, the one that picked the most antithetical answers to her real thoughts and me who used a randomising process. We were operating well below our potentials and needed to do a scientology course. At least the org had enough people in it so we could pretend we weren’t together. Furthermore the people there seemed happy. The same place now looks truly depressing and last time I went there the “minister” accused me of being brainwashed and generalizing every time I asked an innocent question.
Suckers is right.
Suckers and Sucker-uppers.
And Sucky Suckers that Suck all the time because they, well, really suck! That’s what the members are. Sucking clueless.
They’re the suckiest bunch of sucks who ever sucked
Hey Dave, What happened to your plans to get LRH a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? Are you now going for your own star on Hollywood Blvd for SCOHB?
Back in the good old days, you were forcing Mike Rinder go weekly from LA to INT, to attend CMO INT staff meetings at virtual gunpoint. When the staff meetings were being held in the Tavern, staff used to have to listen to Mark Ingber, CO CMO INT at the time, harang Mike about not getting that target done on his weekly battle plan. You were not in the room and probably too busy pigging out on the most recent shipment of foie gras to bother to listen to the manditory recording of the meeting to be sent to you.
BTW, ‘Rifle,’ at La Quinta looks like it is in mothballs. If LRH had shown up yesterday, he would have sped off in the opposite direction.
I was living in So Cal back in the mid 80s and there was a push then to get a scientology radio station up and running. I don’t know how serious it was, but I was hit up for money for this project way back then. I was told that there was going to be a radio station, KLRH, that would broadcast ‘all LRH all the time’. Back then it might have been able to be somewhat similar to what televanglists were pumping out. There could have been celebrities promoting the benefits of scientology or someone like Heber (remember Heber?) who seemed to be the public face of scientology talking up the tech. This was before the slick ad campaigns and promo videos that are out there today. It was also when individuals were more or less allowed to express their views if it aligned with management’s views. Today what we would get would be endless re-runs of the same old same old with no ‘real’ people getting on the air and just talking or having an interview or question and answer period. It would be one big, canned and pre-planned endless loop infomercial.
Too bad KLRH was not launched back in the 80s. It would have kept people away in droves and there would be even fewer scientologists around than there are now. If this new media center ever gets off the ground and and starts broadcasting, it will be the best negative publicity self-generated campaign available. It will put unemployed bitter apostate bloggers on the fringes of the internet right out of business and insure the rapid demise of the cult without their entheta input. If I knew that the money was actually going to help open this new media center and reach the unwashed billions of wogs out in the hinterlands I would be tempted to donate myself just to speed things along.
What management (and hapless donors) don’t take into account is the free will of the general public. Unlike scientologists, if the public doesn’t like what they are hearing, they can change the station.
“Ms. B. Haven, you are disaffected. Report to HCO immediately!” – OSA Rep for Internet Apostate Cleanup
KLRH? That’s too funny. I guess we can call this new station, if and when it ever gets off the ground, WCOB? “All Scientology all the time!”
I commented at Tony’s last week when a GAT II testimonal video was leaked that these would be perfect late night infomercial material. You know, when you stumble home from a late Saturday night out with friends, you turn on your TV, drunk and half-awake and suddenly you see these strangely happy people gush over “Super Power”. That’s where videos like that have their home, right after the miracle cleaning cloth infomercial.
Yes, instead of “Sham-wow” they should call it “Scam-Wow”!
Ms. B: While the concept of “all LRH all the time” turns my stomach I think you are dead right when you say “Too bad KLRH was not launched back in the 80s. It would have kept people away in droves” Even Bart Whale driving round in it’s chauffeured buggy might get turned off. Somehow I doubt that KLRH would get Davie Boy unplugged from the Voice of North Korea where he can learn about the latest tech to control zombies.
KLRH will beocme KCRP (K-CRAP).
I think Mike hit the nail on the head with his comment about spending money so IRS doesn’t take a hard look at the CO$. $cientology has survived this long because it can still sell its ‘mystery sandwich’, take away the mystery and no sales. The clampire would never allow any real explanation of Lrons philosophy. You could hear the laughter out to Venus and Mars.
So this how the old KCET studios are going be outfitted. Just reg the Miscavage loyalists (there aren’t any others left) until there is no money left. I could see a $cientology cable/satellite channel, but no audience would ever watch it and the cable networks and satellite operators would charge a lot to keep it on the air. All the CO$ will get out of this is a nicely produced 1/2 hour ‘what is the cchr’ or ‘what is NarCONon’ or ‘What is Criminon’ shows for local access cable channels.
I saw a ‘what is the cchr’ show at a Buffalo NY public access channel last year. I do think the Buffalonians were more concerned with the price of chicken wings and the Jeremery Perkins story. It was on at 2:30 am, as others have mentioned, only drunks or insomniacs are up at that time. Total waste…..
One more piece of real estate in his personal pocket. I truly do wonder how long he’ll be able to keep the con running?
Since they cannot communicate effectively to the city and environs of Los Angeles, one wonders how they could possibly expect to do it with the rest of the planet?
Think BIG dude!!!!
“I truly do wonder how long he’ll be able to keep the con running?”
I eventually concluded that sadly the answer is “almost indefinitely” until he is forceably stopped. The remaining die-hards are so thoroughly bereft of any critical thinking skills and/or have consumed so much KoolAid they just won’t get it – ever. I bet some look up at the night sky after a hard evenings credit card maxing and think they’ll be joining Ron at Target 2 any day.
“Therefore we need to out-create entheta with lots of theta and truth, and be able to REACH to the soul of our fellow man.”
No problem folks on the theta and truth part but REACHING you guys is a stretch. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
“We are fully awake and present unlike you sorry SP’s on Rinder’s blog. We are doing something about it. Dave rules!” – Citizens of Global Salvage (COGS).
MJ,
You are kidding of course, Citizens for Global Salvage ?
Is this another scam PO Box in Glendale that the “HOOK”
is all LRH coined word are deleted from the COB’s umpteenth
revision of Red on White?.
Yep. 😉
🙂
Karma is quite a hindrance, isn’t it?
No doubt some people will pay money for this. Dm is not done transferring the whales’ funds and assets to his accounts.
Well gee whiz and golly, LRH would be so proud of these fine folks thinking big. I guess the auditing will have to wait while they attend to more important issues. What do you say mankind, are you ready for all the theta that’s about to come your way? Love bombing on a global scale! Fourth dynamic salvage here we come!!!!!!!!!!