Cause over the drug scene in Denver
You do know that marijuana is legal there right?
Mighty My Mammy
6 weeks to glory! Seriously, backlogged filing completed is “glory”?
Fun goody bags
Is this a kid’s birthday party?
Not so mighty?
Even with Flag “doing it” and Nobbe’s goody bags, 211,000 names in CF and all those 1970’s letters from Ron about how great you are – you can manage only 24 people to help out on the most important project in the history of the universe? And where ARE Grant and Elena Cardone?
There’s Elena…
Partying down. Why does that not surprise me? Grant will be along as soon as he has finished brown-nosing Trish Duggan.
“Clearing our Zone”
Hahaha. After 15 years you cannot even get your CURRENT building renovated.
I can save everyone some time with the REAL exclusive data about the Universe Corps. It doesn’t exist. No org has ever had one that has lasted longer than a month or two. Ever.
The D/COB for Fdn Hours speaks
Inspiring lecturer and David Miscavige wannabe contest winner puts out the word. The FSSO is all over the Valley ideal org. Forget about OT VIII. Today’s “thing” is Valley ideal org, so the ship staff spend time on that every day instead of their jobs.
This actually changes NOTHING
Another empty building. Ho hum.
Scots humor
Not heard much from Fearless Leader for a while.
But he does let us know he has no Public Exec Sec (probably less than 10 staff total) and that they put someone who does not speak english onto body routing (under the guise of “Intention is Cause”)??? If that isn’t a sign of desperation…
When they get to St Hill Size….
Then they will be “clearing the Northwest” – but it’s NEVER going to happen. And now they are importing staff from somewhere else to try to “man up”.
OT 6 is the best auditing ever
This person does know that this course only teaches you to solo audit NOTs right? It’s not actual auditing. And THIS is better than any previous auditing? Wow.
Current Strategy on Planetary Clearing
How come they always have a “current” strategy and never have any actual accomplishments?
And what the hell is Dave Petit doing? I guess he has nothing to do at CC so he is out at Valley and OC and anywhere else being his own celebrity?
Well, now that Dave Petit is going to be here…
We can finally launch “it”. It is what everyone has been waiting for.
Bring your checkbook
They may say this is free. It’s actually a fundraiser. You can bet the IAS Regges were swarming.
What IS the theoretical number of years a human body should be able to live?
Good question. I wonder if L. Ron Hubbard fulfilled his own prediction? I suspect not.
Bring your checkbook
Always. There is no free lunch.
Filing, filing, filing….
Always filing. This administrative “technology” just NEVER seems to work. The elaborate “filing system” can NEVER be maintained in ANY org.
The ONLY individuals…
Just a little arrogant perhaps?
A 10 second lunch?
Oh yeah, the champions of the child.
It’s ALWAYS been “time”
What is different now?
IGNITE your 2017!
Bring your checkbook…
Riiiight….
Maybe you should drop some of your education materials off at the Gold base.
Those floodgates again…
They are always opening them. But no flood? Or anything…
Yowza
This is just weird. How would you like your name on this poster?
Come to graduation…
Hear how we make the beds, wash the dishes and cook the food. This is EPIC. MILESTONE. INCREDIBLE.
Arrive early to get a good seat.
The Ideal Way?
Denver Beware….
They are plotting to open an Applied Scholastics school. Won’t ever happen. But it’s always good to know. This must be part of the big push on the “ideal org” – remember Miscavige promised these ideal orgs were going to open Missions, Narconon, APS groups etc around them in huge numbers. Not a single ideal org has opened a single thing anywhere.
Bet HBO loves this…
Food, chocolate, music, commends and Kathy will love you
What more could anyone ask for?
The family that files together…
smiles together? …or something like that
They are PUMPED UP!
How happy and excited can two people be?
Alfred E Neuman Award
A new feature that will appear periodically (or perhaps weekly) to feature the most astonishingly ridiculous statement in the sea of absurdity that sloshes around inside the scientology bubble. And the inaugural award goes to the Chief Ribbon Yanker himself — he was apparently so proud of this statement it qualified for its own page in the special New Years’ edition of International Scientology News.
Lance DOC Boucher says
Surprised DC Comics hasn’t gotten into the Cherch’s use of their characters.
OhioBuckeye says
I am honored Mke, that you took the time to provide such a comprehensive answer. Clears up a lot of questions.
That being said, it begs another question. I am an avid reader. Most fiction I have read are in the vein of Clancy, Forsyth, Patterson, Cornwell..etc. So my question is: ” Who was the Scn mole ?”
Gimpy says
That ‘Staff Wanted’ poster is so creepy, I’d be very upset if I saw myself on there, it was bad enough walking in to ias events and being handed a donation amount with your name against it, how dare they put people into these situations, it makes me so glad to have escaped forever.
Liz Breckow says
There are lots of placed so described to rent in Seattle. If you’re willing to pay the serious buck (averaging $2,600/2BR). Something tells me they’re looking for another donation some poor deluded member will be talked into.
Dawn says
It’s all so silly and horribly pathetic, isn’t it?
Jen Smith says
With all this filing, as an outsider, I have to wonder if Scientology is more of a bureaucracy with tons of red tape. Another thought I had today, with ‘donations’ they give to the church for courses and auditing, they are getting something in return. Whereas if one donates to a Christian Church, for example, you donate money and you may not get anything in return. Usually you donate money to help run the church or help others. I find it oddly funny that one also pays or gives up their life or a lot of their time, to filing. Btw, I don’t actually find any of this to be funny. But I do value the importance of humor and glad you guys can laugh about it now.
Aquamarine says
I’ve just returned to this thread again. I missed this before:
“We packed infinity into 12 calendar months”.
Now, what does this mean? Seriously?
Brian says
It means a delusional person is attempting to sound smart and philosophical.
It’s like saying,”I have a bunch of infinities in my pocket.”
Step right up ladies and gentlemen. We got fresh infinities at a dollar a pop. Getem while they’re still available!
Joana says
Next time Scientology put a spokesperson on TV it would be nice if the interviewer could ask where the progress of planet clearing can be seen. Is there a clear continent? No. Is there a clear country? No. Is there a clear city? No. A clear town? No. How about a clear village? Dan Harris would not ask, a more gutless interviewer I am yet to see.
Hubbard did once state that Australia would be the first clear continent but nothing much seems to be happening with that.
Jen Smith says
Another question on my end because I am just not getting it. How does clearing save the planet? Maybe my definition of what saving the planet is, is obstructing my understanding. Is there a website or post that explains this?
To me saving the planet involves people being able to coexist and living within our means to not exploit and deplete our natural resources. It means being nice to one another and that everyone has value and meaning. How does clearing the planet achieve this? And the idea of us versus them with suppressive persons and disconnection seems counterintuitive to, I guess, my definition. So is it different in Scientology? And why or how do people raised outside Scientology who join later in life, come to see what is good or saves the planet in this new light? I’m sure I’m not the only one who just doesn’t understand this.
Mike Rinder says
Well, the theory is that everything bad comes from the reactive mind. You get rid of the reactive minds and people will all be sane, well, happy and get along. Unfortunately, that was superseded by the ideas described in OT III and that it is not in fact just your reactive mind, but thousands of “body thetans” that have to be dealt with to make someone “sane” — which originally was supposed to happen at OT III and then became OT IIIX and then became OT V and ultimately OT VII.
But despite this, the slogan is still “clearing the planet”. But clearing has been seriously devalued over the years — now it is just realizing you mocked up your reactive mind that makes you “Clear”. ANd I guess there is no easy way of saying “Getting rid of all the body thetans on everyone on the planet” — just sounds clumsy. And in the entire time scientology has existed, there are no more than 5000 people who have attained this. That is less than one in a million. So we can expect this target to be accomplished about 50 million years from now based on current progress.
Dawn says
Lol! I love the Maths, Mike!
Jen Smith says
Thank you for your response Mike. I really appreciate it. It only opened the door for more questions. Can you or anyone recommend a book that explains all of this is more detail? I read online that some terms are vague on purpose and that people subscribe their own meaning but can’t discuss it. That’s how people stay. No one talks or questions things outside their auditing, where non-compliance is handled.
Mick Roberts says
Jen I’m what’s called a “never-in” as well, meaning I’ve never been in Scientology. But the books I’ve read so far that have given me more insight (in addition to Mike’s blog here and Tony Ortega’s website as well), that might help explain to other never-ins how the organization works, in more layman’s terms, are: Troublemaker (Leah Remini), Ruthless (Ron Miscavige, Sr.), Blown for Good (Marc Headley), Beyond Belief (Jenna Miscavige Hill), and I’m currently reading Inside Scientology (Janet Reitman). I’m sure there are others out there, but I’m fairly new at learning this stuff.
Perhaps that could give you some ideas on where to start. Not sure if they have a book explaining all of the lingo and acronyms, which might be a bit overwhelming without understand the structure and how they operate first, but I’m still learning the terminology from reading these books, watching Leah and Mike’s A&E show, and reading Mike’s and Tony Ortega’s blog every day.
Mike Rinder says
Great list.
Three VERY important books I recommend:
Going Clear — Lawrence Wright
Barefaced Messiah — Russell Miller
Counterfeit Dreams — Jefferson Hawkins
Jen Smith says
Thank you Mike. I saw the Going Clear documentary and thought it was very well done, especially in conjunction with A&E’s series. Wright’s book is on the top of my list. Thank you Mick. I’ve seen most of those as well. I hope to purchase as many as I can in support of the people and their stories.
PeaceMaker says
For anyone curious about the subject, I would also recommend reading at least one general book about undue influence and high control groups, maybe something by Steve Hassan. From what I’ve heard it sounds like Hassan’s latest book may be particularly interesting for some relevance to current social and political issues as well, but unfortunately I haven’t kept up to date on reading in this area.
gretchen dewire says
I knew Nadyne Nicholes on that wanted poster. I am pretty sure she was qual sec. at seattle org. when I was there. I wonder where she is hiding and why.
Aquamarine says
Fearless is back! Och, where’ya been, baby?
Cindy says
Mike, on the “Most Wanted Poster” that was bizarre. If these people have not already joined staff, how did they get such good “head shots” of them? So somehow the people agreed to be on that poster and provided a picture. Some of them are people who are out of work or retired, but yet may be trained in auditing. I know one such person. But her “tone level” was always low and in fact she was fired from an LA Scn school because she was too antagonistic and authoritarian with the kids and so she was fired for her “low tone level.” Imagine that Seattle recruits her as an auditor. Who wants to go in session with Nurse Rachet?
Badafuco says
I saw that quote in my latest IAS edition. (They found my new PO Box to send me their crap) and I showed it to my roommate. We have been watching Leah’s special.
So I showed him that quote and he just said, “WTF does that even mean??!”
Exactly.
Katy Lied says
I know a little about compliance issues, and calling for volunteers to handle personal files with information such as name, address, phone number, etc. is verboten. Are those Central Files anonymized with assigned numbers instead of given names? Are they sealed shut so that the contents of the files cannot be read by anyone other than one identifying characteristic such as a name or Index number? Do they not contain any PII (Personally Identifying Information)?
I believe that the responsibility to protect PII accrues to the person or organization that collects or stores the information. I don’t think one can get a religious pass on this responsibility.
What exactly is in a file?
Mike Rinder says
I have heard of this sort of thing being an issue in Europe where there are strict data protection laws, but never in the US. With the protection of the First Amendment I doubt that anyone could make a case on this even though there is absolutely no protection of PII or anything else.
Mike Wynski says
Katy Lied, in the US that is not the case. Except for medical files which is covered under the HIPAA legislation of 1996. I ran a data sec company and am very familiar with US law in that area.
T.J. says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personally_identifiable_information please read up on the subject of PII laws, then we will all be on the same page in terms of knowledge in this area. (not specifically directed at Mr. Wynski, this is a general advice to all, thanks).
Mike Wynski says
Thanks T.J. I am familiar with all Fed & State Statues in the USA. I’m out of date by a couple of years with the EU Regs as they have come fast & furious.
US Fed regs to be followed by private industry are pretty non-existent in the area of concern first broached in this thread.
Jere Lull (35 yrs recovering) says
CF files contain mostly PII: name, addresses, Success stories, and correspondence to/from, Reg notes, and ANYthing
gato rojo says
What CF files are supposed to include is different than what they do include—thus the huuuge backlog allowed to develop by Dissem Secs and the Personnel Depts. of practically all orgs. (For not posting the area and seeing to it that the files were kept up by the CF Officer & Co.) The folders are also supposed to include things like the person’s attestations to auditing levels and training levels, invoices of purchases, copies of reg and recruit interviews….and yes, anything short of what is supposed to be confidential pc folder data. This is per policy so that any Letter Registrar can grab a CF folder, read up on it and send a letter to that person that MAKES SENSE and actually sensibly addresses their concerns or ambitions. But we all know that never happens anymore. A copy of the Letter Reg’s letter also goes into the folder.
The folders are divided up into categories–major service buyers and just book buyers are two of them.
I was Dissem Sec in the 70’s. I actually had a CF Officer and he kept the filing up to date, all hard copy in manilla folders….dreadfully boring job but he was a loner book worm sort of fellow and he did well at it. Carbon copies of everything. He made Letter Registrars sign the folders out and saw that they got returned. He was a real asset.
But why do that when you can browbeat your public and force them to give you money, right? So yeah, things have changed.
Pickanotherid says
What is it with $cientology and unlabled graphs? Could it be that HAPI doesn’t want people to realize the high point of the “Well done auditing hours” graph only goes up to 3 minutes??
gato rojo says
You are exactly right! If it was one minute last week then it’s 3X!!!!! this week. This is a graph-making technique that is many years old now, used to completely fool and lie to all Scn public.
Kristen says
Hi Mike! What’s the “Universe Corps”?
Mike Rinder says
An invention of Hubbard when he came up with “All orgs to the size of old St Hill” game.
He said that any org that reaches that size will have a team of people sent from the Sea Org to their org to audit all the staff through Clear and then put them through their OT Levels (because this is what the staff of old St Hill were able to do). Not a single org that has been announced as “SH Size” (there have been a few, most just shrunk back to mini size once the hoopla was over) has had a Universe Corps. A couple had some people sent, but they were abandoned after a month or two. They could not even figure out how to pay, feed or house the “Universe Corps” (Sea Org members) when they were sent to an org that was not already a Sea Org installation. And there was always a shortage of trained auditors and nobody ever wanted to put auditors on auditing/training staff when they could be making money by doing it for the public.
Kristen says
Thank you! Great explanation! I remember someone on OCMB years ago talking about how they killed themselves to get to Saint Hill Size and never saw any hint of any rewards.
Chee Chalker says
First off
What is with the reference to ‘Game Of Thrones’?
I thought all Scientologists canceled their subscription to HBO when Going Clear came out. It’s a wonder HBO manages to survive without Scilon support…..but seems to me someone has been watching HBO
Secondly, what is with the creepy baby hand holding up Kate Ceberano’s giant head?
Third….the caption under the filing family should read
“There, my children helped you file. Now PLEASE leave them alone and let them finish high school before you pressure them into salvaging this sector of the universe”
Mick Roberts says
About the Game of Thrones reference, good point about why they would include an HBO reference after Going Clear. I suppose they try to piggy-back off of any popular culture items they can to try to draw in more people (or keep the ones they already have, even though like you said, they probably shouldn’t be supporting HBO according to their “doctrine”).
But I love GoT, and hate to see any reference of the show or books to CoS. Guess I’ll just imagine DM as Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish…..a poor lord who kept rising to greater heights through cunning and treason and just can’t seem to climb all the way over that hurdle to control the world, other than his own little carved out area. And according to their chart, House Baelish didn’t do crap with the filing (they aren’t even listed), so that seems to fit as well.
John P. Capitalist says
There are two flyers that are particularly noteworthy in the look they give into the lack of expansion going on in Scientology at the moment:
First, the letter from Gavin Potter to the Valley crowd says that “opening these orgs is so important that even I and all my staff spend a certain amount of time every day working on either Valley files, recruitment, procurement or whatever else is needed.”
So you have a senior executive of the “world’s fastest growing religion” spending his day doing filing and ordering office supplies (“procurement”)? That’s a little odd. Wouldn’t it strike you as a little strange if a division head at General Electric spends a couple of hours a day working in the mailroom to clear out the backlog of packages that haven’t been routed to people’s offices?
Second is the flag graduation announcement. They’re giving a sneak peek of how the “Flag Crew Service Org services 5,000 Scientologists in one week.” If you skim the text, it sounds like that means that Flag has over 5,000 Scientologists coming from around the world to receive services in “the Mecca of technical perfection.” But if you read it carefully, they’re talking about the “Flag Crew Services Org.” In other words, that’s the branch of the Sea Org, full undoubtedly of immigrants brought in under fraudulently obtained religious visas, who feed other Sea Org members.
We all know that the cult lies to a silly degree about numbers. If we do the math, people in the Sea Org get 21 meals per week. So if they’re actually serving 5,000 Scientologists per week, it could actually be 5,000 meals and, at 21 per person per week, they might be serving only 240 unique individuals. While I don’t really think the number of staff at Flag is that low, I’m sure it’s lower than it’s ever been, probably half what it was 10 years ago.
And if the cult is actually getting 240 public a week at Flag these days, I’d be a bit surprised. Mike, do your sources have any insight on how many public are actually “on course” at Flag at any one time currently?
hgc10 says
John P, the concept of seeing senior executives doing menial paperwork is positively Maoist in its madness. What I mean is the Cultural Revolution, wherein Chinese Communist Party orchestrated the removal of all educated young people from the cities to do manual labor on collective farms in the countryside. Not only did this decimate the intellectual activity in the engine of the economy, but it turned a who generation of Chinese people in the assholes. Chinese people under the age of 40 refer to their elders as “the lost generation,” and are critical of their personalities and acknowledge the damage done to them by Mao’s craziness. Scientology is often compared to North Korea, but more attention should be given to the parallels to China’s Cultural Revolution.
gato rojo says
The only organization anymore is “Hey You!” which rips a person off his assigned post to work somewhere else. You know what LRH says about this? He said it was COMPLETELY illegal to walk off your post and do something else on your post time. It’s ILLEGAL to go sell lectures, it’s illegal to go file stuff, it’s illegal to reg if you’re…..the Dir Processing….etc. etc. etc. He says you CAN do it if your stats are already up, or you do it on your own time. But you are supposed to have a big fat target on your back if you are caught off your job doing someone else’s and your own job is lacking.
But….these days if you don’t “hey-you” your own self at any beck and call that’s when you get the target on your back. Psycho indeed. This guy above is actually saying how it’s such a nice thing that he’s doing this, suggesting how everyone should follow his ecample…false data permeating every level of administration.
zemooo says
Why all the Central Files stuff? Why is it so important to Lron? Well, it is the only $cieno sacrament that does not cost money. People can come in and interact with the staff and not be regged or shunted to ethics for anything. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Bait and switch, thy name is $cientology.
The only way to actually count any mOrg population is to get them in once a while for drudge work like Central Files. Everyone else avoids all the ‘important briefing’ stuff like it was a tornado. And yet, why do they issue ‘commendations’ for filing? No staff plus no public equal the turd going down the drain.
Rebecca N says
I’ve been watching the A&E series with great interest. I applaud your work. Although not a Scientologist, I see parallels in the fundamentalist upbringing I survived; it was horrific for me but pales in comparison to what you and others have emerged from. You are a Phoenix who has risen from the ashes. Thank you for all you do.
PeaceMaker says
Interesting to see the two events a week apart in Denver, where they’re on (or being subject to) a push to become “Saint Hill size.” I hope that we get some inside reports about actual attendance.
The bit about finding out how to “be at cause over the drug scene in Denver” sounds like the most ridiculous nonsense. It occurs to me that Denver is an example (along with at least 4 other states and Washington, D.C.), that if you want to engage in mistaken notions of cause, you could just as well claim that building ideal orgs actually leads to marijuana legalization….
Teresa says
I live in Denver and our business is right in the middle of most of the “grow houses” for marijuana. I am not sure what “Drug scene” Scientology is concerned about here. As you commented, marijuana is legal in Denver both recreational and medicinal. In fact, the marijuana business is a large generator of revenue /tax basis for both the City of Denver and the State of Colorado. I think this is a poor attempt and “hook” to bring people into the Denver Church. By the way, I drive by the Church site several times a month, all at different times of the day. It looks very quiet and closed. Keep up the good work.
Jiminy Glick says
Besides that, most SO are second generation Scientologists now, so they have never done drugs. Would you really trust them to teach you the truth about drugs? That is like learning the truth about sex from virgins.
hgc10 says
Oh my, have it got a side-revenue idea for the Denver Org. You know how they rent out parking spots for baseball games? They could surely rent out empty auditing rooms for weed farming. And LRH technology has already demonstrated for attaching e-meters to plants (note the wacky picture of Ron doing such). They could audit the plants to clear the reactive minds.
Deb says
I’ll volunteer to audit the plants !
OTD-OUTTHEDOOR says
I volunteer for quality control. I will personally sample all products, for the public good, of course.
Aquamarine says
FUNNY!
Dylan says
I drove by this morning and the parking lot was empty, I have a picture but was not sure how to post it.
I remember The woman who gave me a tour of the Denver org saying that the conference space in the org was used often by other groups. Which seemed strange when they are expanding at such a rate. The place was empty much like the parking lot.
rogerHornaday says
This is just a guess but I’ve got five dollars that says United for Human Rights, while claiming their materials are in high demand from activists and others who really do stuff that matters, never give talks in venues open to the public. There is too much danger that a knowledgeable attendee or two may present questions about their affiliation with the church of scientology, its recruitment of foreign workers, long hours, meager pay and the confiscating of passports. There may be questions about naming and showing documentation about what actual good works they have done, when and where etc. You know, embarrassing details that blow the lid off.
Mike Rinder says
YEah — they closed down the one in Clearwater the FBI was going to attend. Changed it to a “private event.”
Pamela Devereux says
As my grandfather once told me,”You can’t put perfume on a pig.”
Mike Rinder says
Well, you can. But it won’t make any difference! 🙂
threefeetback says
Dave,
PR Update:
Mark your new 12 month calendar.
Kim Jong Un is now widely considered to be losing his grip on North Korea. The pushback is occurring all the way out to the fringes of the people. Sound familiar? Don’t you prefer the phrase “squashed like a bug”?
I Yawnalot says
I do miss Michael Chan and what ever happened to Graham Payne? The gravy train drying up boys? Deserting a sinking ship maybe? I sense a more global but public shift towards getting real answers to the world’s dilemmas rather than just sucking up the PR that promises much but delivers nothing, but in actual fact represents multiple systems that steal the life from you. It isn’t fun experiencing your living standards being eroded to line the pockets of another.
Scientology has for some time uniformly passed the point of no return. It is a blight on human intelligence that such an obvious scam continues to operate and is tolerated.
The recent events concerning US politics and was even reflected on this site to me aren’t a bad thing. There is now a non ‘lifetime career politician’ sitting in the White House calling the shots and making decisions. It is with hope the US Administration might at last address such things as cults operating within the framework of their society. It filters across the world what the US do… if they could ever get their act together, the world just might be heading in a better direction. Having something like Scientology brought to account for its actions would be a good place to start to instill some religious confidence back into the world system, that would be a good thing.
There is one outstanding fact concerning the organisation of Scientology, it is NOT self correcting, no matter what its texts state! It requires external influence to end its reign of legally sanctioned criminal enterprise.
Harpoona Frittata says
Speaking of Michael Chan and some of the other prominent FSMs that seem to be dropping out of public sight in recent days, if this trend in disappearance among their ranks continues it could be a leading indicator of the cult’s collapse. There aren’t very many of these independent folks who make their primary living by regging $cilons for donations to the cult to begin with, but when they start disappearing from the scene it’s very likely due to the fact that they’re no longer able to make an adequate living on their sales commissions from the cult to support themselves. A dramatic drop off in their income would be very likely to send them scurrying to other venues to make up for their income losses in fairly short order as all of these “Power FSMs” are themselves regged unmercifully to pay for the services which, in the eyes of their own marks, make them appear competent, successful and worth emulating.
As an indirect indicator of the cult’s current fundraising and service sales success, the quiet disappearance of these independent vulture reges may be telling us something important about the cult’s ability to bring in new revenue at this time. Alternatively, it’s also possible that their disappearance merely reflects a shift away from using independent commissioned salespersons to a less expensive strategy that utilizes $ea Orgy reges who get paid bupkis. In any event, it’s an potentially significant trend that’s worth highlighting and keeping an eye on.
No one wants to be the last rat off a sinking ship and commissioned sales personnel have their fingers on the pulse of their organization’s financial health in a very direct and real time way because their income fluctuates up or down on a week-to-week basis. As a result, you could expect to see these full-time cult FSMs being some of the first rats to abandon ship.
Hennessy says
I think the reason that Gavin Potter and other Ship staff are hovering the Valley is because they have comm lines with the senior Scientologists who have been on OTVII and OTVIII, and have then joined Staff, do fundraising, or whom are ‘Humanitarians’. There isn’t any new, fresh blood coming into the CoS these days (for years, really) so they have to utilize the resources they have. Gavin and Co. have spent a lot of time regging this public over the years to pay and go for services on the Ship, donations, etc., so they are well known and are considered to be the staff representing the top of the Bridge. It gives a heightened sense of importance to have Gavin or Sharron asking for volunteers and pleading the cause, rather than an unknown second generation Sea Org 20 year old. Perception is everything.
The picture of the attractive Elena Cordone. Yikes, her mouth wide open. It’s a little disturbing.
rogerHornaday says
Although using Gavin to ‘heighten the sense of importance’ may be the objective, it begs the question, “is there a natural limit to how much and how often a sense of importance can be heightened before you become completely indifferent?”
Cathy Leslie says
What’s with all the paper filing anyway. Why can’t they keep up with it or , is it something they want to hide now because of the media and worried that the Feds will be knocking very shortly.
Eileen says
“We packed Infinity into 12 calendar months” This belongs on the list of most ridiculous statements ever spoken by mankind in the history of the universe and the intergalactic federation. Someone needs to word clear “infinity.” I am worried for the people who read this and still stay in, their brains have been disordered.
Doug Sprinkle says
The people attending that event must have felt like three hours had been stretched to infinity
PeaceMaker says
I was thinking about this, it may have seemed like an infinity of pain for Miscavige. He has things going wrong all over the planet, Leah Remini and Aftermath being just one of them. He has closetsful of skeletons that he has to worry about. He has to try to keep in place and manage early warning systems and contingency planning to handle all sorts of thing that could go wrong, “blow drills” for members fleeing being just a minor example. Some group like the First Independent Church of Scientology, which got its tax exemption under that name last year, could actually spark a mass exodus of disaffected members hanging on. There are countless minor things that could happen, perhaps even triggered by an accident, which could spiral out of control and lead to organization disaster – totalitarian regimes are often brought down by a series of events sparked by something seemingly minor, as we saw in the events that initiated some of the Arab Spring uprisings. I’m sure it seemed like a very long and intensely packed year!
Aquamarine says
You said it so well, Eileen. When I read that infinity packed into 12 months baloney my mind just short circuited for a bit. How does Miscavige say this shit with a straight face? I have a picture of him being handed a fresh speech by the Mullet and cracking up over the hyperbole, so much that he would need to be bullbaited on it.
koki says
Kate C. Has a really small hand or big head .
Big hello from LRHs Bulgravia.
Cathy Leslie says
Looks like we are making two trips to cambridge.
Mick Roberts says
Out of curiosity, CoS seems to be using dates on these flyers (and DM’s podium) according to the Gregorian calendar (like most in the US), such as the year 2017.
However, I seem to remember when DM announced LRH’s death (sorry, the “discarding of his body”), he announced the year as “36 AD”, which I have been assuming meant “36 years After Dianetics”, from 1950 to 1986 (please correct me if I’m wrong here).
Do they use the Gregorian calendar now and have basically dropped the “After Dianetics” (I assume that’s what DM meant) calendar since then? And why they seem to make announcements according to some “wog calendar” instead of using their own supposedly “superior calendar”. Just curious (and a bit confused) which “year” they normally use now and why.
Mike Rinder says
They tend to use AD XX on May 9th, the celebration of the original publication of DMSMH. Otherwise it’s pretty much normal. It is NOT the turn of the “new Dianetics year” on 31 December.
Mick Roberts says
Thanks Mike.
Newcomer says
Watch for a new prefix of AM and PM. After Miscavige and Pre Miscavige but since Pre Miscavige is basically El Con, we will use PM in its more common usage regarding Dave which is Pre Menstrual. It is also much more in keeping with his basic personality.
Yo Dave,
What’s on deck for today’s crisis good buddy ……….. It’s Thursday and it is approaching too. Too many morons to manage, too much traffic on your lines, too much of everything ………… except cash of course!
chuckbeatty77 says
Those Extension Course file keeping makes me want to start a course:
“Scientology’s Secrets: Xenu and “Body-Thetans” OT 3, 4, 5 6, and 7 Explained Extension Course”
and offer a free Extention Course in the Secrets to all who write in, for free.
I Yawnalot says
Are you due a holiday Chuck?
chuckbeatty77 says
Just leaving,
hgc10 says
At Cause Over the Drug Scene in Denver…
It occurs to me that Scientology is barking up the wrong tree, business-wise. From a practical sense, those who want to be at cause over a drug scene are drug dealers. They seek to capture market share, eliminate or absorb competition, keep their customers coming back, etc. And if Scientology thinks they can compete for business among drug users, then they’re just terrible at exploiting market opportunity. Drug users are seeking drugs — not redemption or communication skills or eternal life.
Scientology’s customers are “seekers.” I mean by that the type of person who is seeking answers to the mysteries of life and assurance about a whole host of metaphysical worries. The competition is other cults, NRMs, large group awareness training (LGAT) rackets (est, Forum, Lifespring). Yes, some drug users are seekers addressable by Scientology, but the potential uptake rate is way to thin in that population. They should be on the sidewalk outside Lifespring spin-off group events handing out flyers touting the solutions to problems that those target customers want to solve.
Enough free advice for Miscavige for a Thursday. Happy 2PM!
L Yash says
Just what do they DO with all these files (besides file them)? Seriously, if any legal authorities” ever come to “visit” unannounced, the files will be one of the first things that would be looked for?
I think back decades ago certain file days….after the files were back in those days “microfilmed” the paper file was destroyed. All these files are leaving a huge paper trail.
In addition, while viewing the TV Series, COS showed Prison guards and Prisoners using the COS materials…WHAT prison is this and where is it, I would like to know.
What country was the “rescue mission” filmed in, where the church members are seen carrying what looks like stretchers.
If it IS true that most of these building are unoccupied despite millions spent in continually building “for the expanding church”…..a list should be compiled and sent to the IRS.
John P. Capitalist says
These files are nothing like a smoking gun that could be used against the cult. They’re relics of a dinosaur era… most contain records of people who bought a book or did a cheapo introductory course in the 1960s or 1970s. They maintain these records because Hubbard’s “admin tech” policy, which he told his followers was the most perfectest way to run any company ever invented, says you have to file stuff this exact way. Never mind that they could eliminate duplicates and dead people (probably 80% or more of the files fall into these two categories) by computerizing them. Hubbard said paper files were the way to go so they will keep paper files forever.
There is no incentive to straighten the files up perfectly because Hubbard’s statistical management system rates people on the number of files in Central Files. If anyone were to de-duplicate folders and purge dead people, their stats would go down. Hubbard’s “admin tech” creates what we capitalists call “perverse incentives,” which means that they reward stuff that’s not relevant. Instead of rewarding new member recruitment or money in as the most important metrics, the number of files in Central Files is a metric just as important as new member recruitment. So if your new “bodies in shop” stat is zero, that’s cancelled out by adding more useless folders to Central Files. Never mind that creating more file folders doesn’t actually help move the business of Scientology forward, if you can raise that number, it keeps you out of trouble.
OhioBuckeye says
Exactly. I believe that is how Jim Bakker came to spend 5 years in federal prison ( selling time shares and taking ‘donations’ for buildings that never materialized)
L Yash says
Exactly……raking in the money for Auditing for new buildings that are NOT occupied, just an empty building with no staff or “church” members coming in with the REQUIIRED 2 1/2 hours per day 7 days a week.
DM can spend the money on buying and renovating BUT if no one is coming in the door then the church is not growing.
I don’t mean to be rude but really WHERE is the prison where the prison guards and convicts in the prison were “under the spell” of COS. It looked like over 100 people holding certificates…and where were those young people seen “aiding the ill/hurt/ etc…what country?
If CO$ is indicating with these film clips about all the good COS does and the members who are required to attend are viewing all this, PROVE it besides flashing pictures.
Aquamarine says
Wow, then I personally know Scn Org Staff, Sea Org and public who belong in jail for taking donations for buildings which don’t exist.
Aquamarine says
L Yash, the problem is that there is no law that says a church has to be full to be tax exempt. It just has to be up and operating in some capacity.
PeaceMaker says
Aquamarine, as I wrote a bit about the other day, IRS regulations do require that 501(c)(3) religious tax exempt organizations be serving the community in some fashion or risk being classified as providing “private benefit” (similar to inurement but for a small group). Also, tax exempt organizations cannot just accumulate assets without doing something with them.
I have seen some hints that Scientology, or perhaps its outside counsel, may be concerned that the CoS with its dwindling member activity and enormous assets is at the point of being at risk of falling afoul of those requirements. This might explain, for instance, why Scientology seems increasingly willing to use corporate funds to get ideal orgs built – though in the long run they face trouble if those buildings are empty.
Mike Rinder says
This might explain, for instance, why Scientology seems increasingly willing to use corporate funds to get ideal orgs built
Spot on. I have explained this in blog posts many times. The assumption is that nobody would build buildings for them to be empty. The IRS cannot conceive of any exempt organization doing construction for no purpose. They are not used to dealing with a North Korean mentality….It’s all for show.
PeaceMaker says
Mike, I was referring in part to a possible new development that I’m not sure you have addressed, that Scientology and its outside counsel may feel that since paid services (like auditing) have apparently decreased in recent years that they actually need to increase corporate contributions to the ideal org program, in order to keep up the appearance of enough supposedly charitable activity. While that’s speculative, it would explain recent big investments like the AO in Australia that opened last year with little if any local fundraising, and SMP (“SuMP”).
The other thing I think Scientology faces as far as emptying “churches,” is that if paid services (and perhaps some other sorts of other donations) fall to too low a level, they could lose their tax exemption due to having become for the “private benefit” (as the IRS categorizes it) of a small group of individuals rather than serving the community at large. Using some IRS guidelines and John P. Capitalist’s estimates, Scientology could hit that point if income from “parishioners” falls below $100 million per year, and it may already have dropped to $150 million as of several years ago.
Mike Rinder says
In fact, they would PREFER non service donations. From an IRS perspective these are more normal than service payments which were ruled by the USSC as non deductible due to being quid pro quo transactions. No other church collects money for direct services rendered except a few odd things like pew rentals or wedding services. This is not the problem for scientology and less revenue is also better with respect to the IRS.
L Yash says
Does any other “church” give a member/clergy a “freeloader bill” when they EXIT or depart the church for what the parishioner has received from the church for past services rendered? A fee from what I’ve read on the blog and heard from “After Math” is thousands of dollars due to the “contract”.
I do know as you noted churches do ask a fee for use of the church for weddings, baptism, religious education etc, and that would be outside of the normal fee for a child for instance attending a Church School as in a Catholic School instead of public school.
A wake up call is truly in the making if the IRS cannot conceive of any exempt organization doing construction for no purpose other than the “church” continuing to receive a Tax Exempt status for empty buildings or buildings really NOT in use as described by Marc Headley. The buildings Marc described as having been personally visited yet no one was there and the audio visual equipment not in use.
The term ” Up and operating in SOME capacity”….that is open to anyone’s concept as to what that truly means….does it mean only the “heat and lights” have to be on but no one is ever there for church related functions but to occasionally check on the building to make sure it hasn’t been robbed or vandalized such as Marc Headley seemingly did?
We all know what happens when we “assume” anything……for those who don’t know….it makes a “ass” out of “U” and “me”……
PeaceMaker says
Good point Mike. I’m trying to make a distinction about funds that is difficult because Scientology doesn’t make it between their opaque accounting, and apparent misdirection of monies supposedly raised for certain stated purposes.
In most churches, there are clear differences between what I’ll call service and operating expenses, charitable work and grants made, capital raised in campaigns for building improvements and purchases, and funds held in endowments (“reserves” in Scientology parlance, another word with a somewhat different meaning in normal accounting) from legacies and solicitations for gifts. Then there is also the income that comes from endowment/reserve funds when they’re sitting generating interest or invested, which can be used to fund any of the first three categories.
As general principles, non-profit membership organizations including religious ones risk running into trouble with the IRS if they build up enormous reserves/endowments and aren’t spending enough on services and operations or charitable work, but also if the money that they’re spending in those areas doesn’t come largely from donations. This is intended to prevent non-profits from building up enormous liquid assets and then just hoarding them, or then not being engaged enough in the community that they not only expend funds but also attract significant donations to their operational efforts – and not just to capital campaigns and endowment building efforts.
I hope that is reasonably clear, without my trying to sketch out hypothetical examples to explain. And it’s just based on my experience with some churches, private clubs, and charitable non-profits, plus some reading, not real expertise in the area.
I should point out that while unrestricted donations for operating expenses may be preferable to donations for services (a construct unique to Scientology, and vulnerable to challenge), donations being put towards capital campaigns or reserves/endowment run into the problems already cited. The other thing is that real estate holdings are not counted as accumulated wealth like reserves/endowments, presuming that they are working assets like vehicles and office equipment – but if they were excessive and under-utilized at some point that would violate non-profit requirements.
So, it seems clear that Scientology is facing the first challenge to non-profits, keeping up enough operational activity and spending in proportion to their enormous reserves/endowment as membership dwindles and donations fall. I suspect (and John P. agrees, at least in general) that they’re already fudging on meeting normal requirements, and are likely increasing corporate funding of ideal org projects in order to keep up the appearance of lots of operational spending when service activity is down. Plus keeping up the pace of ideal org openings allows Miscavige to continue to claim that Scientology is expanding, and allows him to build up assets in real estate that count for his internal “stats” but that don’t add to reserves/endowment as the IRS sees it.
But the second problem I see looming, is that if the drop in donations continues, because of its huge reserves Scientology will run afoul of requirements that operating funds come mostly from donations. My guess is that this might come when donations for operations and services dropped below about $100 million, and at that point they would have to do something like try to reorganize as a charitable foundation or become a for-profit entity.
I’d also be interested to hear if there is specific knowledge that I’m wrong about some or all of this. Or if I need to try to make my point more clearly – I’d love to find a more comprehensible way to lay out these issues, if my perspective on them is correct or at least plausible.
PeaceMaker says
L Yash, I think the “freeloader bill” is a point on which Scientology is really out of line, and that they are particularly vulnerable on now that there is widespread publicity about human trafficking and how debt bondage is one of the types of control used by traffickers. Such bills aren’t legally unforceable, but they still give Scientology power both because those who sign the contracts may not understand that they’re not legal, and because Scientology can enforce them through extra-legal means like making people subject to SP declares and disconnection for non-payment.
I also think that this is one of the areas where it might be easiest to get some legislation passed, to address a flagrant abuse with remedies that don’t really threaten to restrict the ways that legitimate churches operate. Just as churches accept some restrictions such as on political activity in exchange for tax-exempt status, I think that they should be held to a higher standard in employee contracting such as not being able to have any sort of punitive or gag clauses for departing employees (which arguable preserves the employees’ rights to free exercise of religion and speech).
As for empty buildings, see my recent comments, and one more that I will make in a while.
OhioBuckeye says
Mike – the mention of ‘ quid pro quo’ got my attention. In considering the difference between a freewill donation and a charge for services from a tax perspective, why wouldn’t CoS get around the tax issue by offering auditing and training services “for a recommended love offering of $××××××× ? I know you aren’t a tax lawyer, but it just strikes me as odd that they can issue an invoice and still be exempt.
Thank you for all that you do. I’m a ‘never in’, but human rights abuses and child endangerment, such as this organization commits, are everbody’s business.
PeaceMaker says
OhioBuckeye, in 1993 after Scientology had waged a campaign of intense pressure and even harassment against the IRS, they got back their tax exempt status, which they had lost in 1967 due to Hubbard’s personal profiteering (inurement) from the organization. The 1993 agreement included a unique provision allowing that ‘quid pro quo’ of fixed donations for services. The Supreme Court has ruled against this very type of arrangement, and in another case a court ruled that the law does not really provide for granting a group that type of exemption. But but until the IRS decides to revisit the agreement (which Scientology has probably broken) or is challenged about it from the outside, the exceptional arrangement stands.
The problem in challenging something like the IRS agreement, is that anyone (including the IRS itself) going up against Scientology has to be prepared to deal with being subject to “fair game”. I would imagine that lawyers have thought through all the possibilities, but I still wonder if there isn’t a case to be made that given Scientology’s long history of abuse of the legal process, the other parties in court cases should be granted a restraining order against harassment including the use of private investigators. This would be similar to the standard injunctions granted in domestic violence and divorce cases due to the known likelihood of threats and harassment in those types of situations.
And addressing a previous comment by Aquamarine and a subsequent one from OhioBuckeye, I’m glad if I provided some clarification about the issue of church buildings being largely empty. While there are some general guidelines involved, Scientology is an exceptional case both because of the organization’s complexity, and also because their aggressiveness that seems to have left the IRS hesitant to challenge possible violations. The real question is perhaps, how empty would Scientology’s orgs and other facilities have to get before the IRS was willing to declare a violation of non-profit requirements?
Aquamarine says
Peacemaker and Mike, I’m very happy to be corrected on what I stated about empty churches.
Lisa says
A nit picky sort of thing here, but I find the wording, grammatical and spelling errors, and rather odd layout designs in many of these ads, flyers, whatever they are, to be very amateur and unprofessional. A poor reflection on any organization.
zemooo says
If it weren’t for misspellings and grammar errors, it wouldn’t be $cientology. You have to love the Asian guy who, in spite of not speaking English, is disseminating to Scotland. Any actual ‘communications’ between the Scots and the Asian guy must be worthy of Monty Python.
OhioBuckeye says
OK, now I’m really confused Mike. How can a dentist be a scientologist…and for that matter, the Duggans too, who owned a pharmaceutical company? (I’m a never in and making a small attempt to understand the organization.) Knowledge is power.
Mike Rinder says
Being a dentist is not a disqualifying factor. Dentists don’t administer mind-altering psych drugs. It’s the “psych drugs” that are the problem. And in any event, dentists usually make good money. So they are VERY qualified.
Wognited and Out! says
Oh yes they do. Wink Wink
L Yash says
A little bit of that laughing gas and…..You DID SAY you’d don’t HOW MUCH!!!!!!
L Yash says
SORRY…meant to type “You DID SAY you’d DONATE how much!!!!!!!
Joe Pendleton says
Usually dentists are looked at as people who will really sink their teeth into a new subject … and if anyone gives them guff on their beliefs, they’ll get a real mouthful … and dentists have usually been familiar with a bridge or two … and they’re usually looking for something that will make their life a bit more fullFILLING … somebody stop me PLEASE … and they don’t mind doing a lot of drilling either …
I Yawnalot says
Would you be suggesting a Scientology reg wouldn’t take a psyche’s money?
I sure recall a number of incidents on lines where ex-psych patients were regged for all they were worth and left to run the gauntlet of administrative catch up when the techies got all hot and bothered with illegal PCs on lines. However, It was easier to attack the techies (me included) as it turned out – is their anything in the Cof$ that doesn’t turn your stomach?
Mike Rinder says
I am sure they would take their money. They would THEN be declared an “illegal pc” and the money would be “applied” to something else. Books for libraries. IAS. IDeal Orgs.
Aquamarine says
I have personal knowledge that this is correct. I know someone who has paid for the entire upper Bridge twice, but auditing? No dice. Instead the money on account keeps getting siphoned off for anything but auditing. A good person, this is an illegal PC who is both stubborn and clueless despite being the recipient of my very best efforts. This person will never be delivered the OT levels. Well, I really did try. “Sad”.
OhioBuckeye says
Thanks Mike. I just need to keep remembering the Scn priorities:
Purpose – Money
Dogma -Money
Belief – $$$
Membership – Show Me the Money
Activities -Get the Money
…ad nauseum
alcoboyy says
And as for the Duggans, well, you’ll find hypocrisy in all religions.
Chee Chalker says
Alcoboyy,
Perhaps, but I can guarantee a Catholic Church (just as an example) would not be giving awards (and helping stash unwanted children in South Africa) for an abortion doctor.
Nor would a synagogue give a big shiny medal to a Holocaust denier.
There seems to be NO person the Co$ would not take money from.
Aquamarine says
Chee, respectfully, the Catholic Church is 2 thousand years old. It has had plenty of experiences and time sort to thru what it was doing right that was workable and what it was doing wrong that was not. Plenty of time to mellow out and the WISDOM to actually change. Because If it hadn’t mellowed out, if it hadn’t toned down the extremism, it wouldn’t be around today. Don’t get me wrong! Today its great. I can’t say enough good things about them. But its obivious, to me at least, that the Catholic Church got smart. Lest we forget, it was only 4 hundred years ago that Galileo was being imprisoned and tortured by the Church of Rome because he proved the world was round and refused to back down and they didn’t like this for some reason. Before that there was the Inquisition and before that the Crusades. I could go on. The point is, they got smart, cut out the extremist, judgemental , punishing and torturing nonsense and began focusing on what a church, a religion is supposed to do, which is help, nurture, protect and value people. End of rant.
Mary Smith says
Duggan’s was a cancer drug so to them it is different. And even if he dealt psych drugs it still would be justified in some manner.
Wognited and Out! says
If you study Scientology tech – you will cognite at some point that EVERYONE is illegal in some form. Everyone is PTS to the middle class and wants a home over their head, food in their belly and a bed to sleep on plus NICE MEST.
Scientology is the SCIENCE of EXUSES why it does not work –
and they have every excuse to kick you out and label you – if you don’t toe the line.
OhioBuckeye says
Thanks Wo&O! Guess that explains COB and LRH addiction to nicotine.
I Yawnalot says
Playing with a stacked deck results in that sort of thing.
Hennessy says
Also, dentists and chiropractors are specifically targeted for Scientology administrative technology marketing by Wise consultants. They go out to these providers and teach them how to manage their practice, (and to make more money) with the purpose of introducing them to Scientology administrative technology and hopefully, bring them into Scientology itself. These are viewed as good prospects because they are better than average income earners and can pay for Bridge services. Medical doctors are looked at differently, with their own nuances.
OhioBuckeye says
Hennessy –thank you.
RedShoeLady says
Can I assume the “most wanted” bailed recently from their clutches?
Mike Rinder says
I would assume they have been around FOREVER and never do a whole lot and cannot make up for it with money. So they are thought to be “dilettantes” who should be “contributing more.” Just a guess.
Mick Roberts says
I was wondering that too at first. Or perhaps, I thought that maybe those 10 “most wanted” people are very wealthy and Scientology just wants them in so they can get reg’em and get boatloads of money for DM’s lavish lifesty…..wait, I mean ask them contribute to the church’s noble cause of clearing the planet and saving all of mankind.
Mike Rinder says
They can get money out of people who are NOT on staff. As soon as they come on staff they stop earning so you don’t want to kill your golden egg laying geese…
Mick Roberts says
Ahh, that makes sense.
Hennessy says
Mick, an interesting interview you may enjoy listening to is Stacy Brooks interviewing Maria Pia Gardini. Maria Pia was a wealthy Scientologist who joined the Sea Org and paid her own money for her room and board, OT Levels and courses, even though the church is supposed to pay for these things. The church regged Maria Pia out of most of her inheritance while she was a Sea Org member. So if a person joins staff or the Sea Org, and does have money, the church will make sure that it gets it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tIiv2Ke5s
Mick Roberts says
Wow that’s just unreal (and very sad). Thanks for the link too Hennessy. It’s almost 2 hours, so will have to watch it at a later time, but will certainly keep this link. I’ve never seen or heard about this particular video or story before (although the name Maria Pia sounds familiar, maybe I read about her somewhere). There are a ton of Scientology videos I’ve found on YouTube. This is another I will definitely add to my watch list.
bo says
I’m a little over 1/2 way through. It is well worth listening to. Do it while you are getting ready for work. If you have read Catch 22, you will see many correlations. And she is a fabulous speaker. I made another comment here, but wanted to address this to you because I am a day behind and don’t think you will see my other comment.
Cindy says
Thanks for the link to Maria Pia’s story. I was regged hard to join the SO at Flag. I was told by a Flag SO member who was helping on the recruit cycle that I should donate ALL my money and any future inheritance to Flag so that it “shuts the back door and you have to make it go right as a result.” What he meant was that if you give away all your money, then you cannot leave the SO cuz you have no money with which to survive on in the real world, so you would then “make it go right” to stay in the SO. He acted like it was a good thing to do and was beaming when he said it. OMG.
bo says
I am about 1 hour into this interview and feel like I have been punched in the gut. Maria Pia is eloquent and her story so far is horrific. This reminds of a book I read a long time ago called Catch 22. It’s kind of a long interview, but well worth listening to. Would love to see her interviewed on some TV show. Hint, hint.
Hennessy says
Hi bo, unfortunately Maria Pia passed away in 2012. She was an eloquent speaker as you said, and her story to me as an ex-Scientologist is fascinating. Thankfully her story was recorded and will live on through the internet.
PeaceMaker says
Except that the old-timers that they seem to increasingly be recruiting, may have retirement income and other assets. Getting them on staff provides lots more time and access to convince them of the urgency to donate everything possible to whatever is the cause or crisis of the moment.
Joe Pendleton says
“Our grand opening is LITERALLY around the corner …” – Kathy.
And some wonder why these folks keep kicking experienced auditors out of Scientology while at the same time claiming they will be clearing parts of the planet with nice buildings …
The real wonder is that they get anything done at all, but the Mafia “raises” money too, you know …
chuckbeatty77 says
Someday I’ll do a history of the podiums that Miscavige stands behind. They are extra short, I recall one time when on the Int RPF, the podium was sent out to us out at our Happy Valley RPF camp, and we had to repaint and redo parts of the podium so it could be re-used.
Jeff Kretz and several RPFers leaped at the opportunity to do some design modifications and new colors, it all had to be approved, and all I ever got to do was some sanding of the bondo changes once or twice, only the most artistic RPFers got the privelege to work on COB’s podiums! LOL
The design of this podium in the above picture took a lot of work. I think today that work is done at the Castle at the Int Base, correct? Anyone in the know on the podium work these days?
So much effort by so many talented people, for so little results.
I don’t know if Hubbard would be proud or cringe as at least in the final months of his life, Hubbard, despaired a bit, was in doubt a bit, about his whole legacy of his operation’s worth.
I wish someone would put the snippet of Wright’s interview with Sarge on YouTube so those vital infomation moments of the late Sarge’s memories of Hubbard’s final despairing comments to Sarge, would be highlighted.
To me, I’m a broken record, but Hubbard’s frank honesty and despair comments to Sarge are just so important to take note of.
Scientology today continues on with these glorious midget sized gaudy space agey podiums, yet Hubbard’s final mentality is NOT history to be shared with Scientologists, they are so distant from appreciating the truth of their founder’s final utterances and mental condition and put all the truth of Hubbard’s real life in their minds and take stock of their operation more honestly.
chuckbeatty77 says
The above podium looks obviously to be from the 2017 New Year’s event.
graewulf73 says
Seeing the poster for the Ceberano concert at the Fort Harrison brings back a fond memory of where our high school held it’s prom back in ’72 and ’73. Then a fews years later my wife and I were skeptical about the Scientologists purchasing the building that we held such a fond memory of. Now many city streets in Clearwater have vacant lots and empty buildings owned by the Orgs which has made Clearwater an eyesore. Nearby Dunedin and St.Petersburg Florida have tourist friendly beach and Bayfront areas where business booms with colorful shops and eateries. You have to go over the causeway out to Clearwater Beach to see healthy growth. What a waste in potential revenue for the city of Clearwater. Many projects that would be beneficial to the city are impossible to carry out because of the many acres owned by the Orgs. There are three exceptions: 1. the beautiful painted dolphins downtown, 2. the revamped Capitol Theater, and 3. the lovely curvy medians that have sculptures, palm trees, and make an emergency vehicle nearly impossible to navigate.
I Yawnalot says
I’ve met Kate Ceberano on a few occasions when I was on lines as a techie. She’s a snobby bitch in my estimation and deserves everything that happens to the Cof$. She’s had more than enough opportunity to see the ANZO orgs being emptied of people she “knew” and obviously turned a blind eye to the auditors that once serviced her when they were thrown out of the Church. Never once did I see her in an academy! Totally beneath her to sit with common folk. (She always had a ring of ‘minders or carers’ around her wherever she went).
Bummer you lost your favorite sites to Scientology, but at least you have the memories.
Mike Wynski says
I’ll tell ya Mike, rename this to the Thursday Funny Farm.
TooDangerous2 says
Yowza is right! How scary to be singled out as ‘most wanted’ in a cherch mailer! That could start a feeding frenzy. Those people better take cover.