These guys keep putting out the “facts” to disprove the lies being told by David “Let Him Die” Miscavige about “massive international expansion.”
Remember, this is the “model” ideal org (at least until the “model” became a Sea Org staffed org in LA, which is no model for anything).
And it has been an “ideal org” longer than any other org on earth. And moved from their original “model ideal” org to a new building to “accommodate their expansion.”
First, and a side note to the real issue, but nevertheless worth mentioning. How does a “model ideal org” that has been “ideal” for 12 YEARS have ANY backlogged “CF filing”? Does not seem very “model” or very “ideal.” Just more evidence that the administrative system of scientology is a Rube Goldberg machine that is a model of inefficiency and incorrectly assigned importances. Sisyphus would have given up in exasperation had he been assigned as CF officer in a scientology organization.
But that is not the real point. They proudly announce they have 65,000 in their CF. This is everyone who has ever bought anything from Tampa Org.
Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and assume just for fun that before the org became “ideal” in 2003 they had accumulated 25,000 names in the previous 25 years of existence.
I am sure one could find the pleas for help to get their “CF backlog handled” in 2002 “in preparation for opening the new org building” (remember, even though this is the first “ideal org” that concept wasn’t born until AFTER this org was opened). And likely they had MORE than 25,000 in their CF. The 70’s and 80’s were much better times for influx of new public into scientology.
So, assuming an increase 40,000 names in CF over 12 years is an average of 3333 per year. Or 65 per week. This is 65 books sold or new people started on a service in a week. Each one of those adds a “New Name to CF” and remember nobody ever goes OUT of CF. They can be “deadfiled” but they are still “in CF” (just in case they “come to their senses and recant.”)
This is the MODEL ideal org remember.
And let’s also not also forget that a large chunk of Tampa’s public are rejects from Flag. The people who find out when they arrive that they are “not eligible” to take services at Flag. And the “Flag public” in the local community who are not allowed to be on Flag lines or just don’t want to pay the exorbitant prices charged by Flag.
65 per week is nothing to get excited about.
Another way of looking at this: Since 2003 the population in Tampa Bay has increased by 75,000 PER YEAR. Or in other words, more people have moved into the area in the last YEAR than the entire number of people who have EVER bought anything from Tampa Org. Or put another way, their CF is less than 2% of the population of Tampa Bay.
Or, they are going backwards at a rate of 72,000 per year — 75,000 new people and 3333 who make it into the org and buy something.
And this is the “oldest” and “model” ideal org.
As David Miscavige would say “Now, THAT’S planetary clearing on a monumental scale.”
Where are the kids? The Clearwater scientology schools traditionally send their kids over to file the CF as “community service.”
Aquamarine says
If Tampa Org is supposedly doing so well, why did Admin Know-How Giant E/D Lynn Irons leave?
MaBű says
TheGMan77: “Gotcha. My memory is still good … but not fully accurate. LOL. Thanks.”
Google Reverse Image Search is your friend. 🙂
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=en
Idle Morgue says
Will ONE Clear or Oat Tea, in the Tampa Church of Scientology, cog nite on the 65,000 folders in the Central Files and only 50 to 100 staff and active Scientology members after 62 years of KSWing?
PLEASE? Just one?
exstaff says
This is a good posting Mr. Rinder. Simple yet shows it as it is. Thank you for this and all your work.
Volunteer Ministers (@VolunteerMinst) says
When are these idiot crooks going to learn about computers and how they can hold records?
thegman77 says
Probably never. Idle hands can lead to thinking more clearly. And we surely wouldn’t want to see *that*!
WhiteStar says
we’d like to know a little a bit about you for our files.
we’d like to help you learn to help yourself.
look around you all you see are sympathetic eyes.
stroll around the grounds until you feel at home.
In Dog I Trust says
WhiteStar – I’m curious. Seriously. It does not bother me at all, or anything like that. But I think there is probably and interesting connection, and I’d love to know what it is, if you don’t mind my asking, and I know it must be scientology related in terms of something bad about scientology. Why did you choose your handle when it has such a negative connotation? (The Titantic was owned by White Star). If it’s just a coincidence, I apologize. Unrelated to the Titantic, it’s a lovely handle and I mean that. I’m not being sarcastic.
WhiteStar says
hi dog. i think you’ve mentioned that before or someone else has.
has nothing to do with the titanic, had no idea the name had any connection.
i just picked it because i liked it. i love science and star trek (except voyager).
glad you like it too:)
In Dog I Trust says
Oh, okay WhiteStar. Thanks. Now I don’t have to be curious but too lazy to ask every time I see one of your posts. Holy Crap! I don’t know how I missed the connection the first time, but what you posted is from ‘Mrs. Robinson’. I love love love that song. don’t know how I missed that. Oh well, I’m glad I saw it this time lol.
MaBű says
TheGMman77: “I could be wrong, but those photos seem very familiar to me.”
Maybe, they seem familiar because this same flyer was already posted on this blog.
Thursday funnies Feb-19-2015
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-21/
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Thursday funnies March-12-2015
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-24/
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thegman77 says
Gotcha. My memory is still good…but not fully accurate. LOL Thanks.
Subreption says
Once they have your details figured out, this happens
https://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/promo2.jpg
John P. Capitalist says
One minor observation: I am sure that there is an enormous percentage of duplicate files, because one of the stats you have to manage in “admin tech” is “names to Central Files.” In other words, you have a built-in incentive to screw up and open a second folder on someone who already exists in Central Files. And thus, everyone has an incentive to make sure Central Files are screwed up so you can’t actually find a given folder, giving you reason to open another one.
So I suspect that nobody on staff actually wants these “CF parties” to go all that well, because any competent help organizing files couldn’t help but notice all the duplication, and you must not under any circumstances reduce the number of folders or the “names to CF” stat will crash impressively and anyone connected with the org will be dispatched immediately to the RPF.
End result is that the 65,000 files in Central Files in Tampa probably represent no more than about 20,000 distinct individuals. And THAT makes the numbers, already dismal, look positively pathetic.
Alex Castillo ex Flag evaluator 1974-1981 says
asking people to come in and
Alex Castillo ex Flag evaluator 1974-1981 says
In my experience as an old timer, there was a time way back in the late 80s when CF was a source of income to the Co£ and it is also true that in many orgs CF was the most neglected dep in Div 2. But that was then. Today, “come in and help us handle our CF” is just a tired, desperate attempt to get people in to be assaulted by the regges. It is not management incompetence. The CF gimmick is their only way to get some income because they are not delivering anything because there is nothing to deliver. It’s all about donations and moving up on status. It’s all pretty disgusting thanks to the New Era Miscavology created by the Great Spiritual Leader, the Omnipotent and Almighty David Let Him Die Miscavige. In other words, asking people to an “help with our CF” is the same as a smiling spider inviting the fly to come into it’s parlor, no offense to the spiders!
Jose Chung says
I’ll buy you a pint of Bitters Mate.
Jose Chung says
I have heard all the stories about Central Files magically bring in boatloads of Public..
Maybe this had some truth to it 60 years ago but not now. Even if it did these newbies would
burnout within days if they were not Flag rejects already. They maintain files on Dead staff and Public
Declared SP’s , walkouts who fall off the Radar screen and yokels who bought a book from a book reg
30 years ago outside a Bar and never read the book.
Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter says
This is probably a stupid question, but what happens to the files of those who actually have died?
hgc10 says
They get telexed up to Target 2
Gary says
That’s the funniest thing I have heard today.
Pericles says
Wayne, they get ‘deadfiled’.
Gimpy says
How would they even know if a person has died? Most have bought one book thanks to their pressure selling techniques, possibly given them a false address as they don’t want to be spammed with junk mail and want nothing further to do with this weird and scary organization. Our org’s cf consisted of thousands of foreign students from the 80’s and 90’s who had given their temporary lodging address while in the country, it was obvious that they had long ago moved from this location yet their names were still there, boosting the cf stat.
Dead or not they really don’t care, they have an address for someone on file – just more evidence of the lunacy of this group.
The thing I love is that they are so unable to think for themselves that no-one actually dares question the whole ludicrous thing, it then becomes something else which helps bury them in their own antiquated systems. I reckon that if fire, flood, or other natural disaster took out the whole lot it would really do them a huge favor, they could then just use the real cf – the list of people who are currently on board and have some small interest in the subject – would cut their mailing costs by about 99.99% I’d guess!
Roger Hornaday says
It’s fun to help your church and donate money to it and do a little heavy lifting because it’s your church. Think of all the things your church gives you. You get commendations and if you give a great big amount you can get an award that will make people envy you. You feel like a member of a very special community who is much smarter and more virtuous than the outsiders. Plus it’s the only group that can save this world and the whole universe AND it has the only thing that can promise an eternity of freedom. So yes, I want to help my church in any way I can and I will! Only thing is I’m busy all next month but after that…yes, maybe.
Willie says
Willie Phelps here an boy I’m glad to be out! Hell I wrote the Original CF project mission
orders for ASHO Day after they moved to big blue. Man coordinating with Norton was a bitch. Looks like they still use this stall-dated project.
Mike Rinder says
THE Willie Phelps for realz? Welcome. 🙂
Willie says
Thanks Mr. Rinder
Cece says
THE Willie Phelps! (Cece Prefontain/Kruchko)
valhalkarie says
I thought organization,catagorizing were basic first lessons learned in early dianetics,but these islands of perfection are begging one and all to help with organization and categorization that should have been handled with neat in 2004?
BlondesAreDumb says
For those of us not in (but a loved one is), aren’t those files readable (i.e., snooping) by the filers? Thought this was “confidential” (ha!) information.
Do cult folks who file have access to files such as yours, Mike? Or Tom Cruise? Or Bart Simpson?
zemooo says
Anyone filing on their own would be able to view any part of your CF. “Ecclesiastical Confessional Privileged’ indeed. These parties may be the only way to keep your folder material somewhat private. Can’t snoop if too many clams are around.
thegman77 says
I believe that auditing files are separate from CF. But that might well have changed.
WhatWall says
PC folders (auditing files) are kept separately from Central Files (CF). In the wog world, CF would be regarded as contact info and relation management info on customers and prospects.
Jens TINGLEFF says
The criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology was made to count how many “priests” had access to the PC folders of Laura DeCrescenzo (in an effort to prove, somehow, that the files were so confidential that Laura could not use copies of them in the trial). The answer was more than 250.
http://tonyortega.org/2013/05/04/scientology-to-california-supreme-court-states-priest-penitent-law-is-unconstitutional/
TommyJ says
My wife and I left and won’t be back, so you can change your CF #s to 64,998
Toot TO OT says
OK, that was funny TJ.
Tommy J says
LOL – and my wife was a Flag reject initially. Mike nailed it on this one
Rick Mycroft says
Quick! Shut down all the garbage smashers on the detention level!
In Dog I Trust says
That picture of the people doing the filing – Oh my god lol. Wow, 65,000 WGTDOY (we got the dirt on you) files, so there’s plenty of fun to be had for everybody.
It will be uptone and fun with music and snacks! Like what? Rice and beans and musical chairs with different selections of music! (Queens’ Greatest Hits)
When? All the live long day! Don’t miss it! Be there, or we’ll kill your dog, or cat, or whatever we can find, just long as it’s something you love.
Sarah says
” Just as long as it’s something you love.”. So true.
Ann B Watson says
Hi In Dog I Trust, What a great post! Oh yes I lived in CF while ASR & holding letter reg from above for ASHO F. And @ that time my trips to CF where not intended for my enjoyment.By this time rice & beans would have sounded good as I was only allowed 2 apples a day.One time I really had to do musical chairs but I think to that forever recalled group,The Apollo Stars.That was the stretch portion of filing!Yes “we will kill something you love,” because that is the way we roll,steamrolled me with all the intention of finishing the job.Thank you & take care, Ann B Watson.
Toot TO OT says
I heard via a text message from a “definitely in Scientology” old “friend” that I have been declared.
I don’t know when this may have happened but I think it may be why the cruise liner amount of “Churcha Sizemology” promotion has dropped to 2 per week.
I currently get the Advance Magazine and IAS good-deeds magazine.
It is printed on some seriously high quality paper! I guess if it is printed on the most expensive paper then obviously people will read it (if you build the most expensive buildings in town then people will flock to them).
RECIPE FOR FAILURE: Nailed it!
SP Browning says
If only all the OSA bots could be assigned to this task, it would solve so many problems!
Beryl says
They have done something right with CF–they quit sending me mail. Yippee!
John Locke says
Beryl, I’m SURE that as soon as one of them remembers that “the number of trees chopped down (and stuffed into mail boxes) ALONE determines an Org’s Gross Income”, you’ll once again be the “happy” recipient of that printed insanity…
SarahDB says
On Tony’s blog yesterday, someone said they use the postage paid envelope from her scio junk mail to send notes to the staffers who will open it. Also, scio has to pay for each returned envelope!
Martin Padfield says
What a complete waste of everybody’s time. The whole concept of a paper folder with the public’s services etc is such a mid-twentieth century idea. Besides, when you’ve deadfiled all the SPs and those who could give a rats ass (I must be turning American using such a phrase), how many are left really? Couple of dozen per Org? Hundred maybe? You could fit the entire PLANET’s “CF” onto a memory stick smaller than a matchbox.
Kemist says
… And still have space for all five seasons of Games of Thrones in HD.
The Oracle says
“They can be “deadfiled” but they are still “in CF” (just in case they “come to their senses and recant.”)”
Laughter!
SILVIA says
The method is obsolete; Central Files receives particles from all over the org: a Routing Form, a note on a phone call, a registrar form, and so on. Every single piece has to be filed and it seems that, no matter how many all hands are done, by the next day you have again close to 100s of particles to file again and the backlog ‘begins’ all over again.
It does not reflect the Org’s production or viability.
Chee Chalker says
That makes perfect sense because Scientology is obsolete. L. Ron Hubbard is obsolete.
For all his ‘brilliance’ why wasn’t LRH able to forsee technology beyond the telex……….
John Locke says
Chee Chalker what is hilarious (and pathetic) is that El Con lived WELL into the computer age but STILL couldn’t figure out that one could use them in place of paper CF files!
NOT the brightest bulb on the Charlie Brown Christmas tree.
When I was 18 I saw that his “Admin tech” & Org board were HIGHLY flawed. Designed so as to be inefficient and extremely senior executive top heavy.
One of its biggest insanities was his insistence on dressing up prepubescent & young teen girls in scanty outfits and sending them into upper orgs to give insane orders with his full authority. At other times they just sat around washing his feet and listening to his tall tales…
Eclipse-girl says
As a never – in, the term “particle” has (yet again) been redefined to mean paperwork associated with an individual.
Old Surfer Dude says
Everything in this cult is obsolete. Everything. It’s like they’re still stuck in the 50s…
M Greene says
Upgrading? How so?
Tommy J says
Aah, they are putting Green rubber bands around the folders instead of those old out-of-date Red rubber bands.
John Locke says
“Where are the kids? The Clearwater scientology schools traditionally send their kids over to file the CF as “community service.””
The starving “Ideal Tampa Org staff popped them into the oven when they arrived. The whole scn shebang is a fairy tale. By the Bros. Grimm.
Cindy Lou2 says
I like that John Locke, it’s a Bros. Grimm fairy tale
Wagstaff says
The Golden Era of Filing Phase II is upon us!
thegman77 says
I could be wrong, but those photos seem very familiar to me. I think they used them on their last pitch to clean up the obvious mess they’ve got. Not even any advance in photos? Ideal in that “I deal in BS so come and bail me out.”
Joe Pendleton says
The most advanced system of management and administration the world hes ever known … and they can’t even file 65 particles a week. Central Files … “the mind of the org” … fucked up continuously … yup … sounds about right. Uhm … maybe they should post a “central files officer” to handle the post. Pass on my suggestion, will y’all?
Idle Morgue says
I was in for a few years. I had success w/o an Org board or the “tech” long before L Ron the Con Hubbard came into my universe and spun me into confusion and fear. MILLIONS!
It did not take long to see that it did not work – but I had something to compare it to.
These poor saps have nothing to compare it to and they think it is their fault.
statpush says
To witness the workability of Admin Tech, look at ANY org. You decide.
statpush says
This is the farce they call “Admin Tech”
Old Surfer Dude says
With stats that MUST be increasing with every Thursday afternoon at 2:00pm. Now that’s insane…
Old Surfer Dude says
Yep! Scientology it totally FUBAR!