You know how unimportant this event is to Miscavige when:
a. He is not in it
b. It is not promoted as “the greatest event EVER” and “you do not want to miss this” and “everyone MUST be there to hear earth-shaking breakthrough in planetary clearing”
c. There is no airbrushed image of a spaceship or explosion or world stamped with a scientology logo
d. The promo only contains 4 single exclamation points
Yet, if you were to read the quote, and many others like it, you could be forgiven for thinking that this should be the most important celebration in scientology — perhaps after March 13 and May 9. Certainly FAR more important than the IAS event. Or New Years. Or the “Maiden Voyage”….
Without doubt, the BIGGEST and most important event in scientology these days is the celebration of disaster capitalism, the fundraising orgasm that is the IAS event. Everything else pales into insignificance when compared to it.
Honestly, this is one of the feeblest efforts I have ever seen to persuade people to come to an event.
Gavin Potter’s seminars get more attention.
And the Flag World Tour video showing positively smokes it.
It is perhaps insignificant to the outside world, and perhaps not the most amazing thing to emanate out of corporate scientology.
But from an “insider” perspective, nothing speaks more loudly of the end of scientology than this. No blood and gore. Nothing ridiculously absurd and laughable.
Just the somewhat unremarkable sight of a patient that has flatlined. The heart has stopped and the body is turning cold.
Yep, it seems like most of the people on the OT Committees are not trained. I’d always called untrained OTs “professional PCs.” It was meant to be a wee bit derogatory. These days, I just don’t give a shit about any of that Scientology stuff.
“…DM was nowhere to be found and it was MC’d by the Sr. C/S WUS.”
Appropriate, seeing as how Miscavige is not an auditor. He gave up auditing 40 years ago when He slapped His PC. What an asshole.
Absolutely, Gus. On all counts.
What pisses me off is that the world could have had the benefit of a comm course, or even a ruds or book
one session in that 40 years and that could have put a dent in the travail of life for a good lot of people.
But, no, he had to have some 100 year old Scotch and a Beemer, etc. Oh and he had to beat the crap out
of the people who were genuinely trying to help. THAT is a big overt.
tick tock, tick tock.
I seem to recall at an event, oh so long ago and oh so far away, that an announcement was made that you had to be a Class 6 to get onto OT 8. Just another one of the must have requirements that went by the wayside. Does anyone here remember this? Or is being in my 50’s playing tricks on my memory again ?
The point being, that I remember thinking that I better get trained up as an auditor if I want to get up the OT levels. Of course, this went by the wayside as most every other arbitrary announcement did. It is so much easier to write a check than to learn to be an expert auditor.
yup, you had to be Class 6 auditor or exceptional Class 5 with lots of hours auditing
PC’s with steller wins and numerous internships.
In the late 90’s Auditors Day and May 9 the were full blown events, then they became “B” events (Heber etc) then they weren’t even worth that and they became” local” events (no execs left to send as they were all in the “Hole”).
Nothing is allowed to detract from preparations for the IAS Fleecing event.
Auditors, who cares? They don’t make Dave non-accountable money!
“Talking is cheap, people follow like sheep…”
♫Even though there, is nowhere, to go,o,o,o. ♫
Haha, overrun.
♫”And when they find they have fallen for his lies
They’ll run out and join the Indies, like meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”♫
Mike – with a reference to John P – The last Auditor’s Day event I attended was in/about 2010 0r 2011.
There were more than 100 people there – more like 400 – 500. In the LA area, that’s a pretty dead dog. DM was nowhere to be found and it was MC’d by the Sr. C/S WUS.
What was VERY interesting was that there wasn’t this big concentration on DM/RTC in the speeches. Most of the Auditors were, correctly, thanking their sups, the people who helped them with drills and LRH. When LRH was mentioned, people applauded, people cheered and stood up.
Apparently one auditor, possibly a staff auditor, felt that DM and the RTC wrecking crew weren’t getting any love. At the end of her acceptance speech she said something like, “And to COB and RTC. If it weren’t for them, Scientology wouldn’t still be working!” (paraphrased)
ONE Person – seriously, just one person – started to clap.
Three claps into it, he/she noticed that NO ONE ELSE was clapping. That was the end of the applause for DM/RTC.
That silence was so telling. The whole room was silent.
tick tock. tick tock.
Appropriate. “Silence is golden but my eyes still see…” “How many times did she fall for his lies…” “And if I try, I know she’ll say I lied…” etcetera, etcetera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03g8nsaBro
Very telling indeed. I’ve missed you Indie8, great to hear from you. 🙂
Hey! Thanks so much, Hallie Jane! I’ve missed talking with you all, too. Been working hard to build my new life outside the bubble because soon, it’s gonna break.
Love this story, indie8million.
Thanks, Pepper. I love it too. So cool that they all quietly expressed their disapproval. It seems to me that that’s the ethics gradient of, “Noticing something is non-optimum”. There are many gradients after this so hopefully, as a group, they’ll just keep coming up the gradients…until they expel the Corporate CofS from their personal org board. 😉
One of the most heartening and informative stories I have read on this blog Indie. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write it. I had thought that there was no hope from those remaining in the bubble but it seems not all is well in Animal Farm and they, at least the auditors that is, aren’t so daft as one thinks. Long live the revolution!
Thanks, Foolproof and, you’re welcome. Yes, I was astounded and could barely keep the grin off my face. Laughed like crazy once I got out of the event!
I’ve planted seeds with different people who are still in and, once the door is open for discussion, they all have a story to tell about how they or their friends are being dealt with in a harsh or incorrect manner.
Little seeds planted become an orchard. We all should be modern-day Johnny and Janie Appleseeds.
An apple a day keeps Miscavity away.
I can’t find the screen shot now, but last year one of Tory’s and others protest videos showed a small flyer for Auditor’s Day which you could only spot if it was pointed out to you. I recall it being a printed 8 x 10 or 9 x 14 sheet slapped up on a pole or side of a building.
Everywhere else on Berendo (okay, Hubbard Way) were 8 ft tall vertical banners and numerous extra large, professional posters and a marque heralding an IAS event. I’d already heard that the Briefing Course had been moved to the Fountain wing, not surprising seeing the BC completions over the last 5 years this came as no surprise to me. But I couldn’t help wondering what the crowds who streamed up and down that infamous avenue wouldn’t notice the blatant obvious. Oh wait, there Are no crowds anymore.
When the auditors are crammed into the same hellhole wing that the RPF are banished to so they will quietly wither away, or go away one way or another, I’d say that’s yet another sign of the reckoning.
Auditor’s Day was reduced to a mere local event at least a decade ago. The last big deal Flag event hosted by cob that I remember was 2001. The event kicked off the Auditor’s Association convention. I flew home on Monday, Sept 10th. On Tuesday a number of WUS execs were flying home when 9/11 began to unfold.Their planes were grounded and they had to scramble for rental cars to complete their journey. This logistics disaster most likely contributed to the demise of Auditor’s Day.
I know I am late to the play today, but hasn’t Auditors been blamed for all things that have gone wrong in Miscavology? Hubbard said that only two things matter for stats: Well done auditing hours and happy PCs. How’s that playing for ya DM? How’s that playing for you, pilgrim?
Narapoid, what El Ron said publicly and DID privately are two different things. Out of public view he made banked INCOME (money, dollars, mula) THE apex, primary stat in scn management. He himself set it ALL up to personally amass millions. So, it is working for DM as it did for El Ron…
I’ve heard a lot about transcriptionists and typists making errors thus altering the tech and of course, “the SP’s”. Whoever in God’s name they are. It’s never specified, just generalized by Misercavige at his infomercial events.
I really agree that this is another sign of the end Mike. Just as dm and his crowd have unmocked clears and rerouted OT’s to the bottom, the training side has truly suffered. No more briefing course (!!!!!!!!!!!!), auditors being treated like children who can’t think for themselves, tech alterations and rampant verbal tech have decimated the training side. What was once a powerful method to gain in skill, confidence and produce wonderful wins for people, is now a grueling, endless path to being treated like a piece of shit. I’m surprised they bothered with any event at all.
A person in for about 30 years wrote me the other day saying that they no longer have the Big Vols in the orgs any longer and that you can’t buy them. Red Volumes and Green Volumes. It’s as if DM doesn’t want anyone to read the policies that he is breaking. Does anyone know anything about that?
zana you can also check out the Bridge Publications website, and you won’t find the Tech or OEC Volumes there either, and it has been that way for quite a while.
I heard a rumor that new red and green vols were coming out. When, I don’t know.
According to an ASHO staff member, they are not selling the red vols. due to all the changes in gag 2. She told me that there were a lot of changes.
However, you could still buy green vols. But she expected that was going to change soon.
Hey Coop, Don’t limit the fun to just OSD. I’d be glad to bitch clap you up against the head a few times! (Always willing to help am I.)
Auditors aren’t the only ones treated like children in the CoS. Public and S.O. are too. The S.O. members are completely dependent on the whims of Misercavige and no say in any matter or “Command Intention” that comes down the lines. This is run on the public too (Command Intention).
The closer the proximity to Misercavige, the more infantilized the person becomes and this trickles down to into the lower orgs. S.O. members are not truly allowed to be their own persons and have to put up with yelling, screaming, isolation, blame, threats, and threat of/ actually witholding of proper food, sleep and medical/dental care. This all falls under the guidelines of emotional and psychological abuse. See the link:
http://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/emotional-psychological-abuse/emotional-abuse-definitions-signs-symptoms-examples/
Sea Org members have to literally escape the Int Base and lower orgs if they just want to leave ‘right now’ and get hunted/tracked down as though they are a runaway eight-year old. This is a violation of their human rights to go where they want to go on their own determinism. They are kept imprisoned on the bases, watched over and under constant surveillance. To some degree, public are treated like this at Flag. They are not allowed to leave “without C/S okay”. They are watched over too and spied on in their rooms at Flag (I say this because I caught Security in my room going through my personal effects).
Public get the same treatment, although it’s much more covert. With the Sea Org members, it’s overt. Public get their lives intruded into on different levels: financial, family, sex, their daily activities, just about anything. There’s incessant telephone calls and home visits to the point of harassment and stalking. When the Sea Org recruiters come for their children, they are expected to roll over and give up their parental rights. Otherwise, they are told that they are “stopping Scientology”, and that’s a suppressive act. Public are insidiously made dependent on “going up The Bridge” and think that things will get better or solved if they just keep going/paying for services and donating. They become broken financially and spiritually. They think that Misercavige is going to save them along with the CoS, and keep it going into perpetuity. Good luck with that.
Auditors are also treated like unknowing children, abused and unappreciated today. None of their past work or study amounts to a hill of beans if they are not GATII, and their certs are being taken away. The cost to get retrained to become fully GATII certified is approximately $30,000. Most field auditors really can’t afford that and are being kept from their purpose, which is to help people through auditing. They can’t audit, so they can’t make money. This is a dilemma for them and more may leave soon because this could be the last straw. I can only hope that more auditors decide that ‘that’s it’ and leave.
Very astute and true comment, Pepper. You beautifully summed up the entire scene in the church right now. Sigh.
Powerful comment Pepper. It’s integrity that’s absent in the church today. I would define it as wholeness and fidelity to one’s spiritual true self. I guess this is old and not used anymore, because integrity is stomped out at every turn, for money or for the whim of one person. In a religion people should be helped to achieve more wholeness/integrity, not less or none. This is true “black”,, reverse Scn that’s in practice.
+1 to you both.
Pepper, all someone at Int has to do to leave right now is threaten legal/criminal action. POOF! gone. Most are too stuck in the mind f__k of scn to do that though
Your graphic is very appropriate. The orgs are failing dismally, and this pathetic attempt to say there is any care about auditors is just that.
Gosh, I’m beginning to think that by now Dave has an exit strategy; I’m curious to see what that is going to be and what kind of havoc he’s going to wreak before he says goodbye. It won’t be long now.
I’m sure you’re right.
Miscavige is probably cobbling together a “special project” where he turns over the COB hat to some poor schmuck like Starkey. Then, when it finally collapses, he can blame others, safe from criticism, while drinking his scotch in Bulgravia and living under a lifetime, $pecial grant from the IAS.
Makes sense. Unfortunately.
I think he’s got a little game in mind — How many members can he declare SP before the whole thing absolutely collapses. He’s probably wondering if he can get the membership down to 3 people, and have one of them issue the goldenrod to the other. Then he’ll hand over the keys to that last fool (John Allender), and vanish into thin air, laughing.
And, McCarran, we’ll have front row seats to their destruction! What fun!
McCarran, since DM can’t be voted out by those in the church, he never has to “retire” or exit. It’ll just end up being him being in charge of >$1,000,000,000.00 running a non-profit company somewhere.
You may be right, Swamp, but I think he’ll exit and I believe it will be “soon.” Too many SP’s raining on his parade.
It’s got to be brutal for the OSA staff having to report to Daveshit on the goings on over the internet. I doubt He is still reading this stuff Himself but who knows. If so he has to be on blood pressure meds.
Yo Dave, anyone home?
I haven’t noticed much trolling lately. I think we have the OSA staff rolled back too.
Yo OSA,
Any of you folks still trying to troll the net or have we got your tongue so to speak. Give it a go, we will try and be a little nice …. maybe. I’m kind of starting to feel bad for you losers so I’m going to ask OSD to slap me up side the head a couple times.
I canot add anything to your excellent analysis Mike except, OMG.
Under GAG II, weren’t auditor trainees supposed to make it from Purif to Class V in about nine months? It’s now nine months. Where are all those GAG II Class Vs? Guess that someone figured out that there was no need for them, since no one’s coming into the orgs to get audited anyway.
I have this feeling that the chance of Auditor’s Day being celebrated at the orgs is proportional to how many old-guard Scientologists, those who still remember auditing, are still around. What’s definite is that anyone who makes a fuss over Auditor’s Day will be put on some “CI to COB” list and asked in for a sec check.
Could DM be gathering up whatever auditors there are for other nefarious reasons? Say, that their certs are no good now, and they will have to be retrained with some other type of tech?
What? No auditorium? Is there going to be a barbecue?
Yep, there cooking a goose.
I’ll take mine well done, thank you.
Good news OSD because they are all well done. We don’t allow rare meat around here, only cinders!
It would be very interesting if any of the ex’s who live nearby (ToryMagoo, J. Swift, or others) were to get pictures of the festivites on LRH Way to count noses. I bet you’ll get a total attendance of a couple dozen auditors, and excluding staff, probably fewer than 100 people.
If I understand it right, they’re going to expect auditors to fly themselves to LA at their own expense in order to be told that they are not getting the job done. And they’re going to be expected to attend or lose their certs. At this point, given how little money field auditors are making, I suspect that may make it pretty easy to accept getting your certs cancelled and giving up as an auditor. And of course, they are too cheap to fly in all those Super Power auditors from Florida to LA for an event to reg for money, since the auditors on staff in Clearwater have no money.
No wonder DM is de-emphasizing the event — no money in it for him.
It’s really sad. The field auditor that I worked with was wonderful. Helped me a lot. I hope she is realizing that the Co$ has literally destroyed her profession along with destroying her family. She was born into the church… she’s pretty wonderful. But has been forced to disconnect from her father (throw him out of his own house)… among other truly devastating things. I hope she wakes up. She may not. She will have to walk away from everything else that she holds dear if she is to survive this. Such a waste of human potential.
Auditors are losing their certs if they are not GATII. It’s currently happening.
The Auditors Day event should be called GATII Auditors Day event. DM doesn’t like to live in the past, and moves continually forward like a shark, never looking back. Without an ounce of insight.
And the ethics tool for enforcement of auditors with “expired certs” would be the Gatling gun.
The Auditors Day Massacre. Worse than the St Valentine’s Day massacre.
“What do I think of auditors? They need to start taking responsibility for our fourth dynamic programs by supporting the IAS. Their pc’s should all minimally be Patrons.”
David Miscavige on ‘A Talk On A Better Qual’
The checkbook is mightier than the e-meter!
The checkbook is mightier than all the training & OT levels combined. Soon there will be an annual “Checkbook Day.”
So true. I can remember when people spoke of the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course in awe. It no longer exists.
An auditor is only as valuable as the fundraising he/she can facilitate. Auditor’s Day should “Ideally” be replaced with “Fundraiser’s Day.”
I’m pretty certain that’s coming up…
Yep Mike, that’s where it’s at. The regard for auditors has arrived at is lowest ever.
I said this a few weeks ago on this BLOG.
Auditors Day is a thing of the past.
Even Deer know the first day of Hunting season,
that’s why Auditors have headed for the Hills !
Imagine all Auditors in one place, for Miscavige it’s shooting Fish in a Barrel !!.
Jose! Excuse me, but, what the hell is this thing you speak of: Auditors Day? Is this a joke or something? Because of the glory of COB, all auditors and obsolete! There is no need for them anymore, let along a day of their own! Once again, you’re falling into the squirrel trap! Buildings and statuses are where TRUE case gain is made! Giving extreme amounts of money is just as good as doing the OT levels. Maybe even better! Not sure where your head is, but, you really need to stop talking foolishness!
You’re welcome!
I was around when Moby Dick was a Minnow and there were Auditors a plenty.
They had e meters made of wood and made Clears by the thousands.
Used to be Big Booming Missions too !
I know sounds crazy but it’s true.
I still have my wooden emeter.
I’m getting it wired up for 220 V so it is ready for Chairman of Bullshit. I want to give him a little security checking when he is ready to route out.
Thanks Jose for letting us know of your experiences and not just from you but from many old timers who were around in the good times. To me its proof that Scientology has worked and done what Ron meant for it to do. Admin and ethics tech as well, when applied with common sense and the purpose of the improvement of an individuals dynamics, it does what Ron said it would. There is too much anecdotal evidence to believe otherwise.
I firmly believe that if it has been made to work before, it can happen again!
It’s all there in the original books Cotch, I was going full steam.
The tech was derailed.
If Adolf Eichman was bad for gassing and burning jews,
which Captain Obvious would say is very overt, this derailment
goes far beyond that. See Boiling a frog tech on internet.
There’s only one kind of auditing that needs to be done. The IRS needs to audit the books.
Spot On.
🙂
Greta
Auditor? The only auditors Dave cares about are the IRS auditors and he “won the war” on them in 1993. The 3 swing f/n effectively killed any wins any PC could get from auditing and any ability for an auditor to smoothly and effectively audit so why celebrate a day for something David Miscavige long ago ensured was not in existence.
He no longer needs the facade. The newcomers have no clue what an auditor is or does and the old timers are too apathetic to care.
I knew it was over when I received an email from the Int Landlord stating…
“It’s not about clearing the individual, but clearing whole societies through our social betterment programs” (paraphrased)
At the time I was still in and was shocked at such a statement. Additionally it was in quotes, but without attributing the source, leading one to believe it was said by LRH. I was so appalled I wrote it up to RTC, who quietly ignored me.
This type of strategic change can only occur from the very top of the command channel. DM has redefined and repurposed Scn as envisioned by LRH. His vision appears to be Scn-Lite, where no real meaningful spiritual progress is made. Instead its a status-driven club of do-goers pushing social reform, through questionably effective front groups.
Yuck.
MIke and Statpush and all, you said it! I guess we have now answered the age old question of whether it will go out with a bang or out with a whimper. Scn has flatlined and is going out with a whimper.
Yuck indeed Statpush. Auditing is the only, real, unique activity that differentiates Scn from other religions and practices. It is the ONLY thing that is important to produce in the group. The wins of pc/preots and well trained auditors are the only actual products. These so called 4th dynamic campaigns are just a ruse, to look busy, and put the fundraising on a large scale, so the parishioners can feel they are causing good effects with their donations. I could argue all day with the haters, but there are 100’s of millions of dollars worth of evidence, that many, many people considered auditing to be extremely valuable. Because I have only ever been a tech person, non SO, my entire experience has been helping people and I can attest, first hand, of major and massive wins for many, many people. I do feel for those who’ve never experienced this, or who had hopes which were dashed. I am truly horrified, at the gross out tech that’s been witnessed and experienced by so many, including myself. The complete degradation of the SO with physical torture, and spiritual torture, by the constant wrong indication that they are basically bad, or that their entire being is a huge mass of walking O/Ws. Several generations of SO members have been subjected to this militant environment of gross invalidation, evaluation and wrong indications (also a source of blows) to the detriment of their cases and well being. Not to mention the defeat of goals, of a more sane and decent society, that they hoped to forward. I feel Scn auditing is extremely valuable therapy, done in a completely spiritually safe environment for both the pc/preot and the auditors. Intention may seem an ethereal concept, but in the absence of good and helpful intentions, real auditing cannot occur and “black” Scn is perpetrated. It’s a real shame that high level, decent auditors don’t get their due as the exceptional people that they are. The perverted mess that is called auditing in the radical church, is a travesty of what is possible. People who want it, deserve and have the right to real, caring auditing, without all the cult bullshit. I LOVE that real auditing is available, in the independent field, for those who wish it, and the market will sort out who will succeed.
Well spoken Hallie Jane.
While I no longer consider myself to be a Scnist, I do recognize the value of good auditing as you describe. I guess I have experienced the full spectrum of what auditing can do, the good and the bad. When done properly it is extremely profound; done for other reasons (other than the PC’s benefit) it amounts to spiritual rape.
I am reminded of a PDC tape on Games, where LRH describes how the major game played on Earth is 180 degrees opposite of what a game should be. Who would have thought that Scn would end up in the same condition?
Yet, this is exactly what has happened. Once the most valuable being on the planet, the auditor has been relegated to a historical footnote.
I could only wish, Hallie Jane, that ALL my auditors had been like you. Actually, most of them were. I know there are many, especially on Tony’s list…and Alanzo here…who have never had the kinds of gains that I, and many others I knew personally, had on a regular basis. No, it wasn’t my “imagination” nor “dreaming”, they were solid changes in my personality, my abilities and a host of other things which are not “scientific”. (I keep wondering when one of these “scientific only” thinkers will define LOVE and COMPASSION and HUMOUR in “scientific” terms, as if the whole of life has to be explained in such terms.) Admittedly, those days are gone forever, other than in the indie field. But they DID HAPPEN. Unfortunately, Ron also had a lot to do with their demise and created the situation in which Dinky Misgarbage was able to flourish.
Beautifully written Hallie, I certainly experienced the same thing from Auditors and have the same attitude to them! So to all you Auditors out there, a big Thankyou and have a great day!
+ 100 Hallie Jane.
I appreciate your candid and accurate remarks regarding the value of auditing done correctly in a safe environment. I did not get very far in Scientology and Dianetics, but I did have some very good objectives auditing and some very good NED auditing. I know I still have some of the case gain from the NED auditing to this day. And yes, I do hope that the Independent Field will provide true and consistent case gain for those who want to continue to avail themselves of the technology.
I just did Grade III and IV with Tom Martiniano about a week ago and I’m very happy with it. I feel a lot better- a “new lease on life” I would say. IV in particular was some pretty heavy stuff. I’m different now- I’m more me. III was great too. I feel fresh and life is good now. I was feeling a little “stale”, in part due to this whole mess with Scientology and the Church. We handled that on III. I’m not a big fan of crying, but I had a big ARC break on Scientology. You come across something, you see something good in it and join up with a group with the purpose of doing something good and helping people, and one day it just blows up and you’re out on the street. That’s a killer. I ran out of kleenex on that one.
I wont get into a big “success story” here. I just wanted to chime in and say that I believe it’s good stuff when done correctly in a good environment and that it works, for me anyway.
Thank you Chris. Well done on your wins!
Thank you for a nice auditors day ack Hallie Jane.
And again – well said Hallie Jane – we are all with you on that.
thank you Hallie Jane for a well balanced post.
Greta
Hallie Jane wrote:
“…and the market will sort out who will succeed.”
Exactly.
Alanzo
Yea. I agree. There is good in good auditing.
Great comments everyone, thank you. The great thing about independence, is that you can do what you want. If you don’t feel comfortable or the price is too high, you just say no. You can choose another religion or none at all. You can do it in your own time with your own priorities in tact. I know someone who gets auditing and also does a Christian service on Sundays because both fulfill a spiritual need. It is increased responsibility too, but for me that’s perfect, because I don’t need or want someone, who I don’t know and trust, messing with my life. I was a total mess after my first and last flag auditing and cried all the time even in my sleep! My bad condition did a lot to get my family out. I am very grateful to my lovely indie auditor who did a thorough “Questionable Auditing Repair List” and got me squared away. I did a couple of L’s also just to make cob wrong. 🙂
Cool Hallie! By the way, there’s no need to make cob wrong since he’s doing such a good job of it himself. 😉
Is anyone auditing AT ALL anymore? From an outsider’s perspective, it looks like they’ve completely abandoned providing and regging for auditing.
What, what is this thing you speak about, Heidi? Auditing? I don’t understand what you’re getting at? Is this some sort of new way to fund raise? I mean, everyone knows that the main push in scientology is asking for and receiving money. It’s THE most important activity there is. If this “auditing” you speak of interferes with the task of fundraising, it would be squirrel tech. Heidi, I think you’re treading on dangerous ground here. I’m sorry to say this, but, you’re 1 post away from being sec checked! Please, PLEASE turn away from auditing, this false God, and come to your senses! Money is the end all be all of our Church. And that’s how it should be. Auditing??? Seriously??? You must have massive M/Us!
OSD,
Everyone knows you get more case gain by donating to the International Association of Sociopaths so cut to the chase man, drag out the wallet and shoot the moon.
Yo Dave,
Hows those Thursday at two stats coming along this week? I’m going out on a limb here but I say they have tanked good buddy. Get on it will ya! Flog a pleebe or two and lets get movin.
OM
I know a bobble head that has been on the SRD for 1 year 6 nights a week and mid OT 7
for at least 6 years… She is an auditor in fear as well.
Heidi asked :
Is anyone auditing AT ALL anymore? From an outsider’s perspective, it looks like they’ve completely abandoned providing and regging for auditing.”
Auditing has become a severe legal liability for the Church of Scientology.
Too often, people have psychotic breaks from it, and they can’t get away with the “baby watches” now that they have gotten away with in the past. And the claims for the results of auditing are clearly fraudulent. There is a long history of auditing generating tens of millions of dollars of payouts from fraud lawsuits.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-prisoners-of-saint-hill-the-scientologists-call-it-babywatching-but-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-looking-after-infants-tim-kelsey-and-mike-ricks-investigate-the-potentially-dangerous-and-possibly-illegal-secret-treatment-that-the-worlds-largest-cult-uses-to-deal-with-difficult-members-1403815.html
So continuing to deliver auditing is just generating lawsuits waiting to happen.
DM’s Bright Idea to handle this situation is to sell buildings to scientologists instead of auditing them in order to continue to “service the field for all it is worth”.
The picture emerging from Mike and Marty, two guys with decades of experience working directly with David Miscavgie, shows a guy who is fully aware that Scientology as developed by L Ron Hubbard is crazy and does not work. He after all, has seen all the lawsuits and all the carnage there is to see about Scientology from his position as “COB”, as LRH did from his position as “Founder”.
So instead of walking away and telling everyone everything he knows so no one else can be harmed by Scientology, in many different ways he is continuing to try to make Scientology still make money.
Per Scientology, in order to survive, he needs to “hold his position in space”. Treason, after all, is “hat’s not wearing”. And after all, he’s in the cat bird’s seat where billions are at his disposal. Why give something like that up?
Wearing the hat of “cult leader” generates psychopathy. If you weren’t a psychopath before becoming a cult leader, you have to become one in order to be successful at it.
Purely my speculation, Heidi.
But your question is a very good one.
Alanzo
+100
Me too!
+101
“Too often, people have psychotic breaks from it,…” Here you go again Alanzo, exaggerating. There have probably been a handful of these occurences from the hundreds of thousands of PCs down the years and those were mostly from people who undoubtedly should not have been allowed on lines. Now the rest of your story is ok and fine but I notice you sneak in these little comments here and there and hope that no one notices or most probably just ignore it.But why can you not just write your stories without inserting these little barbed and untrue comments to satisfy your own particular problem, whatever it is, with auditing or the technology.
Alanzo
Your generalities suck!
Greta
“Wearing the hat of “cult leader” generates psychopathy”
This would be the cult of “I must stop Scientology at all costs”
Take it off then mate
You will never STOP Scientology no matter how hard you try.
There are just too many people who study it correctly and apply it correctly to get gains in life.
You seem incapable of doing either, its kind of sad really.
Can you not get any help from anyone for this conditon?
Are their any Class XII’s here that have a few months available?
Dave,
Your money grubbing, ecclesiastical bubble gives the Free Market System a bad name.
Not really free market. He operates with a lot of help from government.
YES, on the government back up. Maybe they are duplicating DM’s hat. Hard to say – it all looks the same.