It’s Saturday, time for some Terra Cognita…
Being Declared in Scientology…Kind of
“Being declared” in Scientology—short for “being declared a suppressive person,”—lets one know he or she is an evil, despicable, and degraded being, and that everyone associated with this person should disconnect from him or her immediately.
LRH said an SP is someone who, many lifetimes ago, got squashed so severely that he or she took on the valence of his suppressor. He listed the characteristics of these people in HCOPL 7 August 1965, Suppressive Persons, Main Characteristics.
“Nobody puts baby in a corner.”
Just to be clear, I am not an SP. Never have been. Don’t plan on becoming one. Got roughed up a bit but was never squashed or assumed the valence of some evil, comic book overlord. In a galaxy, far, far away.
Nobody labels me but me. (Except my spouse occasionally—but always with good reason and never in writing.) Scientology can slap whatever label they want on me; their ridiculous tags make no difference in my life. I don’t play by their rules anymore. I don’t accept their crazy, suppressive proclamations. I am who I perceive myself to be, not who some cult says I am. Especially, an organization run by a megalomaniac and administered by sycophantic kids without the slightest idea of life outside its walls.
If I say I’m “not declared,” I’m not declared. Nobody declares me but myself.
“If it isn’t Written, it isn’t True.” LRH
According to church policy, declare notices are supposed to be printed on goldenrod-colored paper and distributed widely so all Scientologists will know with whom to avoid and cut all communication.
I’ve never received anything in writing declaring that I am an SP. Nothing. No proclamation. Not one shred of paper. Not a word from the town crier. I’ve never even received a phone call or email advising me of this life-demotion.
This lack of You’ve-Got-Mail can’t have anything to do with logistics. I live within miles of the local org. Most of the staff commutes past my neighborhood on their way to and from the org every day; it wouldn’t take but minutes to stop by and slip a notice under my door mat. Everyone has my phone number and email address, too. Despite what some might think, I’m easy to reach and far from incognito.
Granted, all my old Scientology Facebook buddies unfriended me some time ago. But still, I’d have thought a short courtesy call would have been appropriate.
On the other hand, I still receive Scientology mail from AOLA, various FSM committees, and most of the church’s subsidiary organizations like the The Way to Happiness and Narconon. So I can’t be total scum, right?
But the question remains: If I’ve been declared, why haven’t I received any kind of a notification? You’d think a person of my questionable character would have been declared by now, right? So why hasn’t the local EO—ethics officer—ordered me into his office and showed me a goldenrod? Why hasn’t he phoned me? Dropped me an email? Sent up smoke signals? Asked the Dir OSA in the office next door to handle me? Several answers come to mind.
Not telling people they’ve been declared has become standard church policy. And with good reason. Parishioners would be aghast if they realized how many good people have been declared. Some might even begin to question the tech and policy.
The church knows that my declaration would be completely out-reality (wouldn’t make sense) to everyone who knows me and thus, would shed questionable light on Scientology management and their justice procedures. The last thing church leader, David Miscavige, wants is for his followers looking too closely at him and his former master’s squirrel policy.
Another reason for keeping mum is that no one has the balls to confront me in person—which doesn’t say a whole lot about “ethics presence” and the EPs of the Bridge to Total Freedom. No doubt, a Fear of Communicating with Declared People Rundown would handle their trepidation.
Going, Going, Gone……..
I suspect the church thinks that if they just leave me alone, I’ll fade away into the sunset. No one wants to create another Rinder/Ortega/Shelton/Remini type of person. Not that they have much to worry about. I was never a high ranking Sea Org member; I’m not an award-winning journalist, movie star, or YouTube celebrity. I’ve never written a book or made a movie about Scientology. Except for my family and a few friends, I’m not on anyone’s speed dial. I’m fairly obscure as homo saps go.
And by the way, neither of my two Comm Evs recommended nor resulted in me being declared an SP. Unless I’m missing something, a Committee of Evidence has to recommend that a person be declared for such an action to occur. If I was declared, apparently I was declared in absentia, without a Comm Ev, without a hearing, without so much as a chat with an MAA. Which means someone within the church arbitrarily decided I was enough of a threat to banish me from the flock. Yikes!
Local Ethics
I haven’t heard one word from a Scientology staff member since an MAA at AOLA read me the findings of my Committee of Evidence almost two years ago. I wasn’t declared at that time but telling her that I thought David Miscavige was the real SP in the woodshed no doubt hastened my disgrace.
You would have thought the EO at “my” local org would have contacted me by now. That he wouldn’t allow a declared SP running around his town stirring up trouble by posting unflattering commentaries on the Internet. Either he was ordered not to contact me or has very tiny balls. I suspect the latter.
The Office of Special Affairs
You’d think the woman manning the local Office of Special Affairs (OSA) would have contacted me and told me to desist in writing these inflammatory essays. To stop slandering the church. To discontinue tarnishing its stellar reputation. You’d think she would have called me into her office to try to talk some sense into me and convince me that associating with the likes of Mike Rinder and his ilk was all wrong. That’s her job, right?
Isn’t she supposed to “safe point” Scientology in her area? Isn’t she expected to stop people like me from spreading lies about the church? She’s been a Scientologist for decades and on the job for five or six years so she isn’t a rookie. And yet, I’ve not heard one peep from her. No notes. No phone calls. No emails. Nada. I haven’t even seen her spying on me from across the street. Isn’t her job to handle me? She hasn’t even threatened me with a lawsuit.
If her stat is something like “number of positive inches about Scientology in the local press versus number of damaging inches…” the poor girl must in a condition of Confusion by now.
As part of OSA, I assume she’s tasked with keeping up to date with all anti-Scientology media—especially with any originating in her own backyard. I have a hard time imagining her reading Mike and Tony, and listening to Chris every day without some of their words rubbing off on her. Could a person absorb all that “entheta,” day after day, and still believe DM is the savior of Scientology, the church’s stats are in power, the tech works, and that ashtray is really gonna rise up from that chair with sheer intention? Does she still believe that one day she will become cause over all matter, energy, space, and time?
To be fair, she is a nice person. When I knew her, she was always positive and upbeat. She always seemed like a good wife and mother. She’s not a bad being. Somehow she got roped into a post without knowing the full ramifications of what she was getting herself into. For all I know, she’s been having doubts about Scientology and fence posts have been poking her in the ass for a while now.
Maybe she’s scared of the consequences of walking away. Maybe she’s afraid her husband and all her friends will abandon her. I sense her poor soul getting darker by the day. I feel sorry for her and her untenable situation. If you’re reading this, give me a call.
Does the Church Know Who Terra Cognita Is?
As long as I’m quoting movie lines, it would be “inconceivable!” for Scientology management not to know who I am. They’d have to be idiots not to have figured out my real identity. I’m about as anonymous as a red Crayon in a box of black pens.
Last Words
Show me the money! I mean…goldenrod!
Still not Declared,
Terra Cognita
Jeff H says
I’m right there with you Terra Cognita. I’ve heard through the grapevine that there is a goldenrod on me but I have never seen it or gotten any word from my org about it. One nice thing is that I have not received any mailings whatsoever from any organization for the past several years now. I have saved at least two trees worth of paper by now by getting declared. I am at a point of not giving two flying f***ks what they say about me. I am who I am and it sure as hell is not what they say I am. I love your articles. Keep them coming!
peggy2176il says
Like you wrote, maybe if all the SP’S were known there would be maybe 100 members left.
Well so much for massive globalization of Scientology.
Michael Winters says
You make some great points. I was 4 years removed from all Scientology lines, literally minding my own business. I WAS actually going off into the sunset – far away from the Church. Then Leah Remini leaves Scientology and an Ethics Mission fires into CC Int and starts a major witch hunt. I’ve never been onlines at CC Int but they were the ones who declared me. For what? A couple KRs and some unverified Things That Shouldn’t Be Reports … which I disproved at my own Comm Ev. It was the fact that the Comm Ev, despite finding me innocent made me realize a) they are corrupt b) they don’t follow Hubbard’s policy as lopsided as it already is in a Comm Ev c) In order to REALLY prove that I was part of their cult, I’d need to fork over likely tens of thousands in Sec Checks and in the course of so doing, give them leverage over me.
But hey, I also realized that THEY have actual crimes so it all made sense. The last Hubbard policy I applied to them, after failing to handle, was to disconnect. I would have walked into the sunset, now they’ve made another enemy.
What’s a good time to tell the world that I helped destroy Anonymous in my local area FOR the church? And that I have everything documented to prove it? And that I have every part of their kangaroo court Comm Ev recorded too? They should have just let me walk. Idiots.
kjshep81 says
If they goldenrod you, they have to admit there is one less scientology member, and/or they don’t want to disconnect from your checkbook.
Alcoboy says
To: David Miscavige COB RTC
From: Alcoboy
Re: your stupid new idle org
So, Dave. You still there in Upyourass, West Virginia, yanking the ribbon on your idle org? How many dozens showed up? How many of those inbred hillbillies you referred to are on course?
GFY
Alcoboy
To: Alcoboy
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: your smart mouth
YOU DON’T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS!
ML
Dave
BT says
Pretty sure this was the best of your posts. Nice job.
Doug Parent says
Declaring someone an SP is a label that attempts to reduce a spiritual being into a personification of evil and then take away his associations which breathe life and love in to their world. Three cheers for Ron.
Balletlady says
Seems to be many many “Not Declared” who are STILL being counted as members of the “cherch”,so in essence when they state that they had “millions of members” they are still counting YOU. In reality as someone noted, those piles of ‘Golden Rod colored papers” would shock the living shit out of anyone who is “still in”. The reality of it all is a near like mass exodus of people who no longer are drinking the Kool Aid….who’ve gotten the message that this organization isn’t what it had appeared to be for so many years.
I can’t begin imagine what it would feel like to be “in” for decades & after spending thousand of dollars & thousand of hours working my ass off, to SEE the light at the end of the tunnel & realize I’ve been duped. Slaving away for pennies on the dollar, as a born in…no education & not being raised by my biological mom & dad but by THEM…..my stomach churns at the thought.
When the story came out about “Irving”, a man in his 60’s…STILL busting his ass for….nothing…..not allowing his own daughter in his life……for a bridge to nowhere & he doesn’t get it…..
Balletlady says
Well “Terra”…..I burst out in peals of laughter after reading this article….you so sweetly state about yourself more of less that “.No one wants to create another Rinder/Ortega/Shelton/Remini “….yet here you are stirring the pot & rubbing salt into the bleeding wounds of the entire organization including the Head Meatball DM.
IMHO it boils down to what you’ve stated ” that no one has the balls to confront me in person”—or apparently in any other way, i.e no smear sites, no sign carrying filming ” squirrel busters” sitting outside your residence…….they might be sitting there scratching their heads not able to figure out exactly who you are & how you could be handled….as in “Holy Shit, why doesn’t he/she just shut the fuck up & go away quietly into the night”, or in the worst scenario they simply run OUT of Golden Rod Colored Paper…..haven’t seen much of that around lately.
Keep this coming Terra……all our love & respect!
Interested Party says
You have not received any goldenrod because you simply are not important enough.
You don’t actually matter in the current game.
Carry on doing what you are doing and I am sure everything will work out for you just fine.
Voyager says
The real reason he hasn’t been sent a “Goldenrod” is that they know it will more than likely end up on the Net for all to see thus exposing the church’s generality driven accusations and libel. I don’t know if any of you have noticed but there is never really any specifics in these things when they are sent.
Jakob Kahn says
They don’t declare anymore. Plus if they undeclared all declared, they would come nearer to the 10 million. lol.
reply says
Actually they do, they cannot afford not to, its one of there major mechanisims to hold the captive in check, its all just done covertly inhouse and trotted out when needed inhouse.
writerchique says
I was never formerly Comm Ev’ed, never got a copy of my goldenrod but the SF Org EO did show a copy to one of my sons who said it was complete bullshit. He ended up disconnecting from me for about 18 months. Tough times. But it’s all good now. So grateful for the work that Mike and Leah are doing. Keep going!
Alcoboy says
I’m so glad that you and your son finally reconnected.
Reade Adams says
I’ve been declared an SP and I’m a wog. Is that like a medal of honor or something? 🙂
Alcoboy says
For those of us who no longer imbibe the Kool-aid, the answer to your question is YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!
jim says
Reade,
If you are declared a suppressive persom by a suppressive group then it means you:
Are no longer allowed in the suppressive group to be suppressed;
Are not allowed to be connected to individuals who are suppressors as part of the suppressive group;
Are free to associate with other unsuppressed individuals not connected to that suppressive group;
Are free to be unsuppressed in the world at large;
And, that you have a right to your own sanity and to leave any game at your choosing.
Kyle says
Congratulations….kind of.
Its better to be known by your enemies, than your friends.
Michal Balint says
For me an “SP declare” is a badge of honor.
SILVIA says
“Being declare” by this criminal group has no effect at all. It has no real validity, is just a process that has to be followed by the robotic minds under the yoke of Miscavige.
No one out here will give a d*** if you, Marie Guerin, Cindy and many thousands more are declared. We have now a good life and people “out here” are good to deal with. No one evaluates or invalidates everything you do.
In facto is a relief to be fully disconnected from some of the still inside terminals. I still consider some Sea Org members and many public my friends; I know they are good people, maybe just now beaten down, but they will come through.
There are others that are cold, not caring, arrogant and very abusive. Life and karma will take care of themselves.
In the meantime we keep speaking out and doing what we can to support Mike, Leah and many others that will never shut up re disconnection and many other abuses.
Take care T.C
threefeetback says
Dave,
Tipping Point Update:
SPs are DEMANDING their hard earned goldenrod!!!
Weinstein is OUT at the Academy but if he chooses to follow in the footsteps of Polanski, surely you can follow in the footsteps of someone like Warren Jeffs. Since Roman still retains his Academy voting rights you should be able to run your cult on Android from your prison cell. LOL
Alcoboy says
To: threefeetback
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: SPs getting their goldenrod
Listen up!
I decide when SPs get their coveted goldenrod declare, just like I decide everything that happens in this wog world! Warren Jeffs? He worships the ground I walk on and you need to do the same!
ML
Dave
jim says
Alcoboy,
Good call.
Alcoboy says
Thanks, jim!
To:Alcoboy
From: David Miscavige…………….
I DON’T WANNA HEAR IT, DWARF!!!!!!
Ginny Flahive says
You’re amazing Mike. I love to read your essays. The COS really lost genius talent when they lost you.
Maria B says
Forgive me, but I truly am not the sharpest tool in the shed. Is TC OUR Mike? If it is – wow – I had no idea.
Mike Rinder says
Nope. I am definitely declared. Some have even seen an issue. Would love to get my hands on that sucker.
Maria B says
Ah ok:) Thank you for responding:)) Perhaps if you do get it, you will show it to us?!
Mike Rinder says
Sure. I will publish it right here 🙂
Alcoboy says
Can’t wait to see it!
AlteredConsciousness says
Damn! You mean even if I were to get declared they would still continue to send me all that crappy mail propaganda? I guess the upside of that is that I can run it through the shredder and roll up pieces big enough so that they can become kindling for my wood stove (I live in the arctic….) Some $ savings there but not enough to redeem all the dough spent in courses…. and how many rain forests have been depleted due to their relentless mail campaigns??? UGH!!!
Gravitysucks says
You could post the propaganda to internet? Maybe it could help demonstrate the poor mouthing, panhandlingness of the corporate cult.
Wynski says
“LRH said an SP is someone who, many lifetimes ago, got squashed so severely that he or she took on the valence of his suppressor.”
Old Ron was really projecting when he wrote that one!
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey! I was there when you squashed me, Wyn! And I took on a valence! I’m so messed up…
Lois Reisdorf (Lowie) says
Excellent again TC! Love this one. If all the SP Declares were issued broadly like they used to be, it would shock the hell out of the scn public and many of them would start questioning what is happening. That is why it is kept under wraps. Just like the point that virtually every close person to LRH is either dead or declared an SP. If I was a Kool-Aid drinking scientologist and really “looked” at all of this , I would ask the question – why are all the people LRH trusted the most, all gone & declared? We are not all that old to be dead……
2 of my sons who were on staff at an Org, were shown our declares. One of the son’s told them to F… off and then threw a hammer and the other drank the Kool-Aid and disconnected from us.
Joshua Belyeu says
Scientology is run by cowards, who hide behind their desks and intimidate others into doing their dirty work. I’m reminded of other fear-based groups, like the Nazis, Planned Parenthood, and the Obama administration.
Old Surfer Dude says
Planned Parenthood?
Joshua Belyeu says
There’s been undercover videos made, showing Planned Parenthood workers bragging about enabling abortion. I’ve read a lot of stories by women who decided to forego the abortion at the last moment…and the people at those “clinics” left them to suffer with no help at all. One mother even gave birth to a stillborn baby in a toilet, and sued Planned Parenthood for wrongful death. That whole organization was started by Satan through Margret Sanger and her eugenics mindset, with one purpose: to kill as many kids as possible in the name of convenience.
Sanger wrote a letter on December 10th of 1939, to a Dr. C.J. Gamble in Milton, Massachusetts. About halfway through this letter, she referred to an effort called “the Negro Project of the South”. Sanger advised the hiring of a full-time black physician, trained to ingratiate themselves with black patients so the latter would reveal “their ignorance, superstitions and doubts.” Sanger believed blacks would be more secretive around white doctors, so her suggestion was to help blacks be more vulnerable. She also advised Dr. Gamble to hire a minister, trained in “our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach.” The very next sentence of her letter reads as such – “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea, if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
rakaur says
It’s scary that I can’t tell whether you’re joking or just really stupid.
Wynski says
Josh, parts of what you wrote are correct. I read a NYTs article from that period that was truly appalling along that vein. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/db/06/e3/db06e3cc0f417ae966b0b258efd02fb2–margaret-sanger-quotes-open-your-eyes.jpg
Alcoboy says
Summed it up nicely, Joshua!
Artoo45 says
Please don’t tell the Obamas or Planned Parenthood where I am. I’m terrified of their cruel, cruel wrath. And chemtrails. Oh, and Century 21, no, wait, that’s real estate, well something 21. I’m scared of that too.
Gail Shourds says
I totally agree with that one
Jacquelin Davis says
I wish their were a “love” button so I could agree ten thousand percent with Joshua
Joshua Belyeu says
Thanks for your support, Jacquelin; I appreciate it.
Kelly says
Thanks for the post. I left the church almost 8 years ago and although all of my Scientology friends and son disconnected from me, I’ve never seen an actual declare order on myself. I’ve written posts on this blog using my real name (Kelly Reno) in hopes of being officially declared so the church will leave me alone and stop mailing shit to me. If anyone can find out if I’ve been declared I’d like to know. And if I haven’t been declared yet then please declare me you OSA creeps.
John Doe says
Here’s a suggestion, Kelly:
Every time you get something from the Org, print out one of Terra Cognita’s essays and mail it to different staff members in the postage-paid return envelope, along with your name and address.
I’m guessing you’ll not have to do this more than 2 or 3 times to dry up the mail.
Kelly says
Haha thanks for the tip. There was no mail for years because I left no forwarding address when I moved years ago. The mail from the church started up again within the last year to an address that I never gave anyone in the church and it was never used as a forwarding address. It creeps me out to think how they got ahold of my address after all these years and I wonder why they are mailing me magazines after I’ve apparently declared for speaking out publicly about against them.
Aquamarine says
Spokeo, intellus, BeenVerified, Radaris and perhaps a hundred other data compilations organizations is likely how they got that address of yours, Kelly. Anyone can do it for the price of joining and getting unlimited “searches”. Former addresses, telephone numbers, enails; marriages, divorces, bankruptcies, traffic tickets, criminal convictions, wherever a person appears on social media; There’s no doubt the cherch uses such websites. Lots, and I do mean, lots of info that is a matter of public record is combed from many places and assembled and its all just a click away.
Aquamarine says
Oh, and if you join one of these things or take advantage of a free or very cheap “limited t time trial offer” (as I did in order to “search” myself) don’t be surprised to see mistakes. The one I used showed me having had bankruptcy in 1995! Almost gave me a heart attack. Never happened. Always had good credit. But as upsetting as it was it was good to know what was out there on me and I got the thing removed.
Alcoboy says
Ah, yes! A Terra Cognita essay is the ultimate entheta letter!
Wynski says
Kelly, the CoS is cowardly. You are a formidable person and they know that you would unleash a big can of whoop ass on them if they libeled you. They are scared to death of reporters after all. 🙂
Kay Marie Rowe says
Hi Kelly, Kay Rowe here. I’ve been officially out for 5 years+ and out of the Sea Org for 7+ years. I had no idea you left too. So sorry you are having to experience all the disconnection insanity. Wow- your own son! I haven’t see my declare either but heard that it exists from one of my “handlers”. Our declares are under lock and key somewhere if anyone bothered to even type them up. As covered in an earlier comment on this article, the DSA SFO, my first “handler”, told me the reason they don’t distribute them is to avoid libel and slander suits. So, even if you do get a chance to see it, for sure it will be a pack of lies.
Marie guerin says
Thank you for bringing this up TC .
4 years ago we were silently declared as well , we heard it from our daughter as she was disconnecting from us over the phone ( reconnected since then , after all we told her we would never take it seriously , we got lucky I know )
My husband called the Chief Justice or whatever his tittle is , to see the golden rod.
I had this image of a strong man , maybe with a white beard , with strong presence and righteousness , maybe even a good man even if mislead.
It was mild shock to meet a little boy , slight in built , who was obviously not expecting me , the big sp in charge. He was scared or disappointed not to have my husband alone whom he could maybe recover !
It was so strange , he couldn’t take us to his office , couldn’t sit outside in plain view , he wanted to sit in our car… I refused with a laugh , telling him he was being ridiculous.
We sat out of sight , and read the thing . Nothing much to write home about !
I asked him why the declare was not being posted in ethics for everyone to see , but there was no answer . He was clearly freaked out that I was addressing him directly.
In the days and weeks following , I understood that most people didn’t know we were declared as I met a few at the market. And that killed my hope that people we have known for years would wonder and maybe wake up . After all we are just good people , like you , TC , nothing stellar in terms of status in the scientology world , no big story to tell and no witness to abuses.
We just woke up , thanks to Debbie Cook. That was the crime , along with my infamous letter to Julian Schwartz and co. To leave our family alone or else.
Didn’t work so well ! I tried at least …
Mary Kahn says
So happy to read here about your daughter☺️?
I thought it was happening but wasn’t for sure.
Cindy says
Thank you for your comment, Marie G. I am so glad that one of your kids came to her senses and came back to you. I hope the other one comes too. It may take a while, but as the church implodes I think we’ll eventually get our kids back. It is my hope.
C M Swazey says
I’ve been declared twice-no comm ev. I did have a comm eb but I’d asked for it and its effect was to overturn expulsion #1. (I’m kind of clueless sometimes and thought the organization was worth giving another chance.)
MarktheHungarian says
When you keep poking something so long and don’t get a reaction, it’s either dead or dying.
Keep poking it. It seems dead to me.
Old Surfer Dude says
I saw a twitch, but, that was it.
Cindy says
Terra, you said: “If I was declared, apparently I was declared in absentia, without a Comm Ev, without a hearing, without so much as a chat with an MAA. Which means someone within the church arbitrarily decided I was enough of a threat to banish me from the flock. Yikes!”
That is exactly what happened to me. It is the new out tech playbook on how to handle declared (but not publicly declared) people. You’re right that they no longer tell people who is declared and who isn’t. because people would start looking and leave if they saw good people being declared.
In my case I was never called in, never had a Com Ev or hearing, nothing. When an OT VIII friend asked to see my goldenrod, they then had to put one together. I’m sure it was full of slander and lies, but wouldn’t know because unlike the rules LRH laid out, I was supposed to get a copy and didn’t. But one good thing came of it: Fred Haseney said when he heard that I was declared, he realized the church must be corrupt to declare someone he looked up to and liked and had had good dealings with in the 80’s. So per his comm to me, he left because when they declared me he knew they must be corrupt. And he did create some waves once outside the church. Go, Fred!
Maria B says
‘when an OT VIII asked to see my goldenrod’…..i am so very sorry but that spoke to the little kid in me. Made me giggle hysterically:) I had to google ‘goldenrod’ and the best I came up with is that the declare is similar in colour to the actual goldenrod flower?
Spike says
That’s the colour of paper they used to print it on. Goldenrod …
Murray Luther says
I think there’s a simple principle to explain why the COS doesn’t prosecute every trouble-making ex-scio that waltzes pass their desk. It’s reality, one with which even the COS must comply. They’re under-manned, under-trained, and poorly organized. Any time DM considers pulling the Fair Game trigger, he must calculate the potential or actual damage any ex-scio critic might create. Fortunately for most of us, he just doesn’t have enough ammo to take shots at every target that he’d like. No matter how much money and property they hoard, there still aren’t enough staff to run a public-wide police action.
This brings me to a provocative thought. Most of us can freely fly under OSA’s radar while still making critical observations and comments. And I think most of us intuitively have a pretty good idea of what sort of activity it would take to become a target-worthy enemy. Just take a look at the trouble makers who’ve earned an online hate-page.
I’m thinking that we can approach the COS to inquire as to how we under-the-radar types might be able to acquire our own hate pages. It would make an amusing promo campaign. “Hey COS! We want hate pages too!” Perhaps even better, we can create our own pages done in the classic OSA style, except make them accurate, honest, and factual. Hey, if your going to be a despicable SP, may as well get in front of the situation while having a bit of fun in the process.
deElizabethan says
I have to agree with the last sentence. While I love your posts, should you want a declare, you need to go public, imho.
Ginny Flahive says
WHAT A GREAT IDEA ! ~ LET’S SET A GOAL TO GET THEM TO CREATE MORE HATE PAGES.
I Yawnalot says
The expectation that the Cof$ is actually some type of thinking entity, running off a formulated system of its founders checks and balances built into the organisational technology that catches all the flubs to set ‘the knowledge of life’ on its course for the benefit of everyone… My God! What a load of horseshit! (nothing against horses, but their crap is easy to step in). We were HAD by organisational aspirations that Scientology possessed answers. It offers up everything but delivers nothing but extreme misery and instils delusions of grandeur into those who haven’t yet woken up to the scam.
Interesting article Terra but a tad boring from my perspective. I was never officially declared either. It seems a face to face with me or giving me a goldenrod has been avoided intentionally. Even by some of my own family who still guzzle the cool aid. They avoid me like the plague. It emotionally hurts and sometimes I get overwhelmed by the acceptance of the ‘normalcy’ of that behaviour displayed within a split family. I have no solution how to handle them nor patch our family back together again. No one is home or intelligent in the Cof$, it’s a fear based organisation of which ANY scrutiny of it will result in an abusive backlash directed towards individuals – any individual who questions it as well as encompassing their peers, friends, family etc. It does the same type of thing as the mafia does by going after innocent family members of someone who has wronged them. Scientology’s armoury consists of a single never to be questioned but long dead source, incredible lies, fear, extreme bullying, blind obedience, military structured discipline, loads of misappropriated money and very smart lawyers calling the shots on a religiously based “you can’t touch me,” using a constitutional/legally protective mantle. It’s a game they play with great zeal as they feel very safe operating within such parameters.
The subtle mechanisms of mis-directional attention placed on groups as Hubbard did, like psyches, tax men, SPs (as a group out there scheming to get us) et al of the same ilk is a cunning use of a generality while at the same time he enforced a diabolical policy system which, if believed, has the answers to all your questions and provides a “solution” for EVERYTHING. However, it’s illegal within the Cof$ to apply its own policy – it’s all an absolute quicksand of folly. I’m still reeling after all these years at the level of despicable lying written into the policy/tek and practiced blindly by Scientologists. They say one thing that sounds safe and logical but do either nothing about proving any of it works or do exactly the opposite and punish you with it.
My analogy of declare technology, is somewhat gruesome but it’s like dad believes he has his 9mm Beretta safely locked away in his safe but silly little Johnny somehow manages to steal it and takes it to a neighbourhood playground. Johnny’s whims are now measured by the carnage. The weapon itself is not particularly to blame, ignorance & stupidity is.
Hubbard’s 2.5% of humans are SPs has now become 97.5% because a weapon was put into the hands and minds of a handful of psychopathic morons.
Fuck the cult and all those that profit from it!
Cre8tivewmn says
Maybe they sprouted publishing them so they wouldn’t show up in videos. Tori Magoo must have shown hers hundreds of times.
jimbmorris says
Chuckle!
TC,
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that your are, in fact, declared. It’s just that Elevator Shoes has kept it under wraps and wholly to himself for just the reasons you’ve delineated. Scientology has become increasingly confront-challenged such that DM, himself can only confront you by proxy only.
I feel for the poor soul who must endure FFT’s wrath in your place!
Howard K. Smith says
Another good article, try getting points 7,8,9 and 10 in and you will see how many friends you have.
Peter N says
Yes, the only way to get rid of an important person like you is to let him quietly disappear…
I used to have the job of printing such SP orders and this is what happened:
First, all SP declared were sent to all organizations and key missions.
Then, there were two divisions that came into being:
1. General SP declares for someone being a real SP, like fraud, these still had the same distribution.
2. Those who joined “the dark side”. These were limited distribution. Only to orgs that were directly related, and the SP declare had a cover letter that basically said the issue could be shown to people as needed, but it was forbidden to hand it out to anyone, it had to stay in Ethics. Ethics Officers would have a binder with such ethics orders…
Cindy says
Thank you for the inside info, Peter. But even if you fall into number 2 above, that doesn’t stop the church from contacting all your friends on FB and from your Life History you fill out when you join SO and asking them to cough up any instances of natter or disaffection or reading on the blogs about the person so that they can assemble a dossier on the person in question. And just the fact that they ask your friends to write KR’s on you implies, or it is even said, “he/she is not in good standing with the church.” And that will make your FB page empty out overnight even without any goldenrod coming into existence. Ask me how I know this.
Cecybeans says
Since CoS seems to know the letter of the law like any good jailbird lawyer (and it is true they have constant advice from their own members and mercenaries), I would assume that their policy is not to officially declare unless a person has officially used their legal name in public to make claims. That might be what Karen Anne is saying in her post. If a person goes public under their own identity then CoS is officially allowed to go public. Otherwise they are not on the right side of the law. They may think that they can skirt defamation or libel cases if they have the backup of the false testimony of members – hence the smear campaigns on line and elsewhere. I imagine it’s hard to get family members to testify against another and disconnect until they absolutely have to because that requires lying in public – something anyone would be loathe to do unless it was for the larger cause of protecting CoS against clear and present danger.
But even if those tactics are legal, the optics are just absolute shit to the rest of the world, as is their whole policy of offense make the best defense – in the very best tradition of banana republic dictators and crime bosses. Those people “testifying” against their declared relatives look about as believable and sound about as convincing as people in hostage videos. (Which may be one of the reasons they don’t want to pull the plug on others unless necessary).
I am glad that you can bring us such great insight with your anonymity, Terra. Any avenue that works well to take down this behemoth should be used and you are a great resource. I think that as things snowball, eventually the lawsuits will begin to roll, and the first or second victory will open the floodgates. We are seeing the same thing with abusive and powerful sex predators. Brave souls begin to surface, sometimes it takes years, but something hits a critical mass and the thing just starts and won’t quit.
Maybe some of this backing off the SP route is them getting prepared for this eventuality. I always envision the Nixon White House burning tapes or a foreign embassies shredding papers right before they get out of town to protect themselves from other people accessing their secrets.
What I still don’t understand is what good is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to make yourself an OT-VIII if you are still scared of all the big bad SPs floating around the globe (possibly some in your own family)? For that kind of money I’d like some sort of Simonize shield of protection that says the higher the level, the more you are insulated from that stuff – you know, magical powers against evil..
It’s common sense to stay away from overly toxic people – psychologists give that advice all the time. Leave the psychic vampires alone – they will suck you dry! Especially the malignant narcissists and other B cluster personalities. Some people can wreak havoc with your life and there just isn’t anything you can do to protect yourself except avoid them. But the big difference is that they leave a trail of well-documented destruction everywhere they go and everyone (not just cult insiders) reacts the same – there is no changing them. You can certainly forgive people and simultaneously avoid being drawn into unnecessary drama. But this policy of disconnection is ONLY applied to people who criticize CoS in public. One minute whatever they have done is fine and the next minute they are criminals.
This can be proven in that members in good standing who have actually committed heinous crimes against other members are NOT declared suppressive, but backed up by the cult as long as they remain loyal. We have seen evidence of all kinds of human abuses going on inside the organization that ONLY become crimes the minute the member leaves and criticizes the church. So they cannot claim the behavior itself of the apostate is evil because they condone it and are perfectly happy to cover it up for loyal members.
Which makes spending all that money even goofier. Because if they only people you have to be afraid of, who are SP, are OUTSIDE the organization (where they can’t contaminate your OT rank), then what sort of magic powers do you really need to navigate the planet as long as you stay in the bubble? I mean, if I was selling psychic snake oil, the first thing I’d claim is that the best thing about being at the top of my big old bridge is being able to look down on all the idiots below and feel completely protected from any of their nasty bullshit. Otherwise it looks like the view from the top is just another freaking volcano to get thrown into.
I Yawnalot says
Good comment!
Cindy says
Cecybeans, are you saying that Terra Cognita is Karen Anne?
secretfornow says
Yep. Great comment.
Spike says
Cute!
Old Surfer Dude says
Ah, thanks Spike! I didn’t think you noticed me.
Spike says
OSD, I’ll bet you’re a sweetheart! Is that you in the front of your band, singing and wailing away on the blues guitar?
Peter Norton says
Mike, what she said! 🙂
Shut Up Oracle says
First of all – brilliant post Ammo Alamo! At first I wasn’t sure where you were going with it, but heck if you didn’t get there in style. Deciding which relationships are preferred based on “you lift me up” vs. “you bring me down” is just another way to stigmatize and show a basic lack of understanding about things like depression and bad moods and displays a superficial attitude towards the things that actually make interpersonal relationships important in the first place. Ditching and running based purely on selfishness is not friendship, and it never has been.
Secondly – I enjoy reading Terra’s (if I may call him by his first name) weekly inciteful and clever posts. This one was no different. With this one however, I got my money’s worth within the first couple of paragraphs:
“Nobody labels me but me”
This, my friend, is the real “way to happiness”………for everybody. Thank you for providing me with a true lightbulb moment.
Gravitysucks says
Oh my glob, love your nic!!
Bruce Ploetz says
Terra, there is another way that you can be declared without a Committee of Evidence. L Ron Hubbard could simply issue declare orders and that is that. But, you say, Hubbard passed on in 1986 and there has been no Hubbard Return Event to celebrate his home-coming from Target Two.
Well, a Commodore’s Messenger has the authority to act on Hubbard’s behalf and issue binding orders in his name. They set it up that way so the teen Messengers had the authority to give orders to get the Commodore’s wishes effected without having to return to him all the time for legal orders.
This simple idea has been distorted and twisted at the upper levels of the Sea Org to the end that the Captain (Dave Miscavige) and his close minions have the totalitarian authority to act in Hubbard’s name. And the authority that they claim is truly unlimited in those circles. They consider that they are above the law, above all Scientology justice procedures, all knowing and all powerful.
So there may be a Declare Order that you will never see that was simply ordered by someone in RTC. They don’t even bother to put specifics on these orders, but just print out a list of the High Crimes and put a mark next to the ones you supposedly violated.
It doesn’t require a special communication to let everyone know you are persona non grata. If a certain Facebook gateway person unfriends you they all know what that means and follow suit. Just as bad as those schoolyard cliques in grade school.
But just as you can rise above the squabbles in the schoolyard by simply refusing to participate, you can proudly assert that you are still not declared. Your fellow Superior Persons salute you!
Alcoboy says
Good reply, Bruce, And, as far as I know, there is no written directive from LRH giving Miscavige control of anything! So who are he and his minions to issue declares on anyone?
To: Alcoboy
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: my right to……..
AHHHHHH, SHUDDUPP, YOU MISERABLE LITTLE SHIT!
Almost drank the Kool Aid says
Crazy. Why aren’t they done yet?
Julia St.john says
Informative, and very humorous
hgc10 says
Terra, didn’t the church lawyers already say publicly they know who you are, in response to the Garcias naming you as an acceptable potential arbitrator?
Liz Breckow says
I love your challenge to Scientology. Also movie quotes. May I suggest:
Go ahead, make my day – Sudden Impact
Show me the money! – Jerry Maguire
You can’t handle the truth! – A Few Good Men
And, of course:
What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate – Cool Hand Luke
Old Surfer Dude says
And, badit, badit, badit….That’s all folks! Bugs Bunny.
Shhhhhhhh. Be verwe, verwe quit. I’m hunting wabittes. Elmore Fud
Gravitysucks says
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I Yawnalot says
Loved Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke, great movie.
Where Scientology is concerned I’m kind of partial to Scareface – “Meet my little friend…”
Old Surfer Dude says
I offered him a deal he couldn’t refuse. Marlon Brando aka The Godfather.
Alcoboy says
Is this Miscavige you’re talking about?
Joetheta says
About a year ago I sent a letter to my Flag MAA,stating that I am no longer a Scientologist. A year later still no Goldenrod ! What am I chopped liver ?
Scientologist see me around town they say hi,they stop and chat. I’m like WTF ???
Old Surfer Dude says
Whoa! That’s a freakie situation you’re in. You’re declared, but, the members still talk to you. Man, you’ve got Super Powers! You da man!
Roger Larsson says
The pen Hubbard had was a gun making people to do stupid things.
Teen says
Thought provoking essay…..it seems everything is a secret in the cult. I hope the OSA manager reaches out to you…and not to handle you but to blow.
bixntram says
My favorite movie line, when Flash Gordon or Zorro or Erroll Flynn was getting away from the villain: “After him, you fools!” Translated in to scientologese that would be: “After him, you stupid fucks!” Terra, maybe you haven’t gotten up the chain yet to Miscavige the Merciless.
freebeeing says
oh my TC, you’ve been declared for sure. That’s why you haven’t heard a peep from anybody. It’s time you dropped the ‘still not declared” shtick and join the proud ranks of Special Persons.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey, the cult has never contacted me since I left in ’82, after refusing to attest to Beer…..I mean clear.
I Yawnalot says
Beer is all brown like and has all those bubbles, plus a frothy top, squirrel clear at best.
You know Dude, I think we can pretty well extrapolate (gee, wonder where I leant that word from?) that being known or accused of being an ex-Scientologist per the Cof$ management is pretty much an automatic declare, why bother with the paperwork. Money would buy you back in but it was money that fundamentally got you to be an ex Scio in the first place – you were lied to & ripped off. Oh boy… the dichotomies of Scientology, splat meet splat!
Old Surfer Dude says
LOL! You are one funny motor scooter! I do attest to beer, though. But, I never got a certificate.
I Yawnalot says
Soak the label off a bottle of beer, write your name on it, frame it & there you go! Be self determined about which brand and you’re OT!
Alcoboy says
Ah, beer. The Inebriation Rundown.
Cindy says
Terra, if you’re waiting for your goldenrod to come in the mail for you, it won’t. But just try walking in to Flag or your local org. They will recognize you and escort you out. That’s how you’ll know you’ve been declared.
Wild Horse Design says
Ugh! The Church of Cring Worthy Jargon and Acronyms!
Old Surfer Dude says
You nailed it! Nice post.
Brian says
Terra, I love your undaunted courage!
Forever Lurker says
Brian,
Hoping to catch you here today . . . . (But slightly off topic.)
I’ve really enjoyed your articles and posts. You mention meditation often.
What method do you use? Do you have a few books to recommend re: spiritual studies and meditation?
Just really curious. You seem really knowledgeable.
Cheers
K Katzen says
And I love his writings too. LOL, good one today. Made my day. 🙂
Ammo Alamo says
Years ago I went to some sort of seminar where one person gets on stage and tells the audience a simple list of things to do to become happy, happier, happiest, or at least less suicidal.
The main theme of her exhortations was the difference between Basement People and Balcony People. Or was it Loser Whiners vs. Always Sunny people, or maybe Real D*cks vs. Average Joes, or Polygamist Pedophiles vs. Mother Theresa. I doubt she used the term Suppressive at any time. My best memory says she was talking about the Basement-Balcony types of people.
The Basement people in your life bring you down, assuming everything they do every day in every way is actually a downer to you. The lecturer says disconnect from those nasties, though I can’t exactly remember her using the exact term ‘disconnect’. OK, so far that sorta makes sense, if used wisely. But stay connected if the Basement person in your life is the uncle about to die and leave you all his millions, the uncle who only wants a nice two-dollar Christmas card from you every year so he has your current return address so his lawyers know where to send his millions after he croaks.
The Balcony people are those that are always UPbeat, UP and at ’em, UPstanding, and so perfect they make you want to UPchuck. She said that’s the kind of person you should stick with, so some of their UPness will rub off on you. She went on and on and on about this so long it made me want to say UPyours, but not being a Basement person I just laid my head on the shoulder of the guy next to me and took a nap. It was good for me, maybe not for that guy. At least I felt the nap gave me my money’s worth from the seminar, even if the company actually paid for it.
I say, stick with the gruff old uncle, with or without his millions.
Who the heck wants to separate their relationships into such B&W categories that one can never factor in bad days, headaches, menstrual cramps, recent prostrate surgery, or any of a thousand reasons people might be less than perfect on any given day?
Forgiveness, empathy, and just being a nice person as much as you can will get you a lot higher than any Balcony person trying to pull you up to someplace maybe you don’t want to go right that minute.
But if ever there was a person who was totally against any sort of forgiveness or empathy regarding his fellow human beings, it’s the guy well known by his initials Ell Rrr Aitch. Disconnection from that guy and all his works would likely improve anyone’s life, in the long run. Or so it seems to me.
Newcomer says
Sounds like a Valley Ogre to me TC. But you can ditto your post today for every other unethical officer managing their offices of very special affairs in every unideal org of $cientology that still has doors which open. A very sad lot indeed.
My supposed declare was made public to my wife in February of 2013. It was my opinion that the cherch would make that move to force her and the kids to disconnect from me because I was ‘asking uncomfortable questions’ and ‘looking’ rather than listening. She was ‘absolutely certain’ the cherch would not ever be able to make her ‘disconnect’ nor would they and I of course was saying …… “yea but that is what they do!”……. “No they don’t !”
And then they did. Eventually, due to their greed and need for cash, they exposed their true underbelly of contempt and eventually my ex began to ask uncomfortable questions after we divorced. And then Julian made sure the kids disconnected from her as well. A truly sick group of people ensuring that humanity as we know it ( at least those connected to the cult which self proclaims itself as a cherch with strong family values) will end up in the trash heap.
Yo Julian,
Nice work good buddy. Break up another family and try to hang on to the kids to shore up your collapsing cult. This will end very poorly for You; it is a certainty … unless …. You can somehow arrive at a point of truly desiring to atone for Your transgressions. If Your Dad is still alive, go see him and spend a moment, it is a decent thing to do! And be sure to tell him Hi for me, You know who I am.
Lois Reisdorf (Lowie) says
So sorry to hear that Newcomer, how awful. Did you and your wife get divorced because of this? And now that you are divorced your kids disconnected from both of you? Horrible……..
Newcomer says
The cherch gave her a Sophies Choice; lose the ‘little being’ or you will lose your kids. So she was forced into filing for divorce which she did not want to do.
Our real problems were started much earlier however since the IAS had been working the old third party line for years. It was a classic black and white of they who can be talked into donating are always much larger beings than the tight wads who have less inclination to do so. In the end, the Teddy Braggins and Paul Millers got to her. One day in LA at the HGB building in late 2008 Teddy got her in a room with five or six other regges, one dressed in all black to simulate an RTC person and they hammered her mercilessly for hours. She was sick for two weeks after that. Over the next year they extracted some six figures in donations and all the while convinced her to not discuss it ( normal folks would call it lying) with the small being fellow (who was working in a family owned business to earn it) kept in the dark to toil away like a good little being.
That of course blew up ( Dec. 11, 2009 at about 9:30 am to be precise) which is burned into my recall for obvious reasons! But it was one of the great days of my life ……………. the 4×4 arrived directly over my head and I “instantly woke the fuck up” as they say in the vernacular! I knew with absolute certainty that the thing called $cientology was not a religion, was not there to help anyone do anything but instead was a simple money extraction scheme cleverly designed to take a person of goodwill and turn them into something awful!
And yes, after we divorced, as my ex began to be pressured for her half of what we had worked for for 32 years she began her reality adjustment and the kids then disconnected from her. It is classic cult behavior and the kids remain in to this day.
Lois Reisdorf (Lowie) says
Wow Newcomer, thanks for that info, it is horrific!! So sorry for your losses, just unimaginable………I hope life is going better for you but me having lost only 1 one of my kids out of 3, yours is so much worse….sending you lots of love and I hope that all these silly people come to their sense soon and we can all reunited. God what a story………
Gail Shourds says
I am so very sorry to hear about your family I wonder when the church finally goes down the toilet are all of these disconnected people going to open their eyes and go back to their families? Or are they going to be so indoctrinated that they will continue to disconnect even though the church is no longer there? I sincerely hope and pray that those people in this so-called Church will open their eyes and realize that they truly lost the best things in their lives, all because of a charlatan and a short dictator. Praying that your family will come back to you.
clearlypissedoff says
Great article Terra…loved it.
You wrote ” Parishioners would be aghast if they realized how many good people have been declared. Some might even begin to question the tech and policy.” I wonder what would happen if you did a friend request to all of your old SCN buddies. In fact if all of the currently declared SPs tried to communicate with their old friends from the cult it might cause quite a stir. At minimum it would keep the Facebook Police busy as hell warning everyone about all of the dangerous SPs out here in the real world. It also could wake up a few people.
Kay Marie Rowe says
I initiated connection requests on Linkedin and it worked. Since hardly anyone knows I’m a “Declared SP” due to nothing in writing, they willingly accepted. I’m up to 800 or so, at least half are Scientologists. I recently found an infamous “FB Police person”, Jo Jo Zawani, was one of my connections! So I disconnected and blocked her.. Then I tested the waters, announcing the release of my autobiography, “Over the Edge- A Pawn in the Scientology Money Machine”. I only lost a few connections but at the same time I gained many followers. There are a lot of Scientologist out there who are “on the fence” and would happily read all we have to expose, even when putting themselves at risk of being “declared”.
Title Waves says
Great essay as always, TC. Fascinating topic. I’d like to know the actual percentage of declares… As high as 30 percent, maybe?
Kay, glad to see you here too! Congrats on the book. I’m hearing rave reviews!
Michael Winters says
Having known you for years Kay, I look forward to getting to your book, probably sometime this winter.
Kay Marie Rowe says
Thanks Michael! Let’s connect on FB.
Joe Pendleton says
Terra … Fashinating!
Old Surfer Dude says
Is ‘Fashinating’ when you’re wearing really cool clothes?
Joe Pendleton says
I live in the tropics, OSD, so I’m always looking for cool clothes.
Old Surfer Dude says
Where abouts? My family comes from Hawai’i. We got there from San Francisco in 1890. The family settled in Hilo, on the Big Island. But, it was so rural, that in 1894, they sailed over to Honolulu. We’ve been there ever since. My Dad saw the second wave of Japanese fighters. He was with a friend, who took a bullet from a Japanese Zero.
Joe Pendleton says
I have lived in beautiful Chiang Mai in the mountains of northwest Thailand for the past six plus years. Need to make it to Hawaii one day.
Cre8tivewmn says
Fascinating is what Mr Spock says in original Star Trek.
Old Surfer Dude says
Something about prospering. Can’t remember the original saying.
Balletlady says
Live long & prosper…..
OhioBuckeye says
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CO$ Money Doc says
No, no OSD! That’s ” fashionating”; as compared to “facistnating”. which enthralls lil’ Davey, Hitler, and other dictatorial dicks; lastly, there’s “fastinating”, which either involves prolonged weigh loss, or a love of all things high speed. Jury’s still out on that last one… Mahalo!
Bravebloggers says
I always award bonus points for using Princess Bride quotes. It would be “inconceivable” not to find merit in this essay.
Annie nominuse says
Hi Brave. We probably should quote just a little bit more. “There will be blood tonight!” Of course only figuratively speaking.
Kay Marie Rowe says
Very well-stated! Back in 2012, I was assigned a “Handler”. When he took out 2 suppressive person declares that were under lock and key (Debbie Cook’s and Wendy Honnor’s) and I could only read them in his presense to be sure that I didn’t make any copies, I asked why and how come they weren’t distributed to all Scientology Orgs all over the world and posted on the staff and public notice boards. His reply, and I kid you not, was “To avoid libel and slander suits”. My retort “Why would you worry about libel and slander suits if they are truthful?”. It didn’t phase this OSA robot in the least! Further, when I read the declares, they were obviously false. But I had to keep my mouth shut at the time because I was employed by Scientologists, I rented from a Scientologist and most all my belongings, including my car, were in their possession. A short time after that, I publicly resigned (and last week my autobiography, that tells all, was published). I was told I was declared. Hundreds of Scientologists have disconnected from me. But I too have yet to see anything in writing and frankly, I could care less. Like you, I still get emails from the CofS and Scientology associated organizations. And little do they know, there are still many, many Scientologists connected to me who haven’t a clue that I am a badass, declared Suppressive Person. My thought is that they purposely don’t distribute them because they know if those who are still in were to see the piles upon piles of SP declares this would be a shocker and could result in a mass exodus. On a lighter note, at least they are saving trees!
Newcomer says
Well said Kay!
” My thought is that they purposely don’t distribute them because they know if those who are still in were to see the piles upon piles of SP declares this would be a shocker and could result in a mass exodus.”
Yo Julian,
Whadayasay Mr. Cringe? You ‘self proclaimed savers of the planet’ could not become a more cowardly group of thin skinned back stabbing zealots. You already ‘set the bar’ for this activity so take a win on achieving Your status Julian. BTW, I’d like to make an appointment to stop by and see if You really have issued my ‘declare’. Next time I am in town I will drop by the AO and say hi!
Kay Marie Rowe says
Thanks. I’m fortunate that the DSA SF messed up so royally with my “handling”. If not for that I might have stayed!!! Heaven forbid!
I Yawnalot says
Wow Kay! You just made it onto my birthday & Christmas card list.
Many Happy Declares!
Kay Marie Rowe says
Ha Ha. Luv i!
Python Swoope says
Stand Tall ! You are about to be joined by Millions of “Critical Thinkers” and even some of those “useful Idiots” still in!
Shelley Taylor Wilcome Trinh says
Damn straight,Mike I absolutely love who you’ve become, you’ve made up for everything and truly you didn’t know any different so not guilty in my book,
You have such a sweet kindness about you now,it shows,you and Leah are doing what is right, Scientology is Ridiculous they look like fools,their little tit for tat bullshit!!!
LRH was a NUT CASE!!! Perhaps he and his Xenu are having coffee this morning in his O.T.8 new body psshhhh bullshit LMAO
He’s dead and gone as will we all be,
What an evil son of a bitch ,
Mike you’re so blessed with such a beautiful family and friends who genuinely care about you as you do them, keep up the great work you re helping people heal,
I am addicted to The Aftermath we all are,!!!
Old Surfer Dude says
And what if Aftermath continues…for years!
I Yawnalot says
Ahhh… excuse, but isn’t that what ‘Aftermath’ means?
Gravitysucks says
Pond ripples for eternity!!
Maria B says
I adore Mike and Leah together. They make a great team on TV. And yes, I hope that Aftermath continues for many seasons. Having said that, more seasons means more horrific stories and broken hearts, We know there are bucket loads still out there – but the real naive part of me really does not want there to be. I hope I explained myself correctly and I did not offend anyone.