Hold the phone. Breaking news.
The IAS proclaims over and over that the “wins” of CCHR are “thanks to your support of the IAS.”
Anyone who has been around CCHR or the IAS internally knows that is an absolute lie. But the public facade continues. Yet, it’s hard to keep things like this totally secret. And here is more evidence.
And how about this statement: There are currently 3 non-SO staff…
How are there ANY Sea Org CCHR staff? This is not a “Sea Org” organization…
And then a new one arrived about something else the IAS proclaims is all “thanks to your donations to the IAS.”
Surely, all the humanitarians who have given millions and the $1,000,000,000+ that the IAS has could cover the cost of his tour?
Don’t these people EVER get sick of the demands for money?
Don’t these people ever wonder what happens to all the money they DO give?
This reminds me of what I have picked up has been going on quietly in some of the local orgs for a while, that they are asking members to donate money so that the org can meet operational expenses, including staffing. It’s a further sign of the orgs’ long, slow slide into insolvency, no longer able to bring in enough money to meet their expenses and instead resorting to robbing Peter to pay Paul type strategies, just to keep the doors open and the lights on.
Also, if CCHR Florida is run most by SO, that means the “human rights” organization is run by human trafficked individuals – who are subject to being put on the RPF, which is like the sort of abusive conditions that used to exist in psychiatric institutions….
Good scotch is expensive!
Not for Miscavige. He probably imports it by the cargo container.
What a shame. What’s the difference between the SO and thieves and the bums in the street? Well, both goes for no exchange. The more outright outrages is, that the people continuing to donate endlessly. I don’t get it; don’t they have some common sense that their money goes nowhere? How much toxified from Scientology and unconscious one can be. Sadly to say, that at this point, Scientologist seems to be the most blinded people in the planet and far from being smart. Especially the OTs that believes in science fiction. Are there senses so stupor that they duped by the sentence of being “the elite of the planet”? Scientologist are really awesome people. But being smart and being blind not always coincide. I just feel sometime to go to the orgs and scream, “people get out of there, you being used and brain washed”. It is toxic environment.
How about no more life and having your wife held prisoner?
I was given a death sentence and my wife held against her will and was only released when my father said he was going to call the FBI.
Learn from my screw-up. If your family is being held call the FBI youtself. And don’t wait until you are all but dead. Once you are desd, thry will hsve won.
“Don’t these people EVER get sick of the demands for money?” Yes.
“Don’t these people ever wonder what happens to all the money they DO give?” Yes
That’s why people are sneaking out the back door, under the radar, blatantly leaving through the front door etc. etc. etc.
The fundraising used to be just a less egregious, and there was more pretense of exchange, but it was still there.
The constant requests for more more more of your money, time, more of your life blood either eventually wear you out and you leave or you give up and turn into a drone.
Their entire business model is based on sucking as much of anything they can out of anyone they can then discarding them when they are used up.
Yep. That’s some religiosity if I do say so myself. (And I don’t).
It would be fairly easy to take down the Church of Scientology with all of the proof that the IAS does nothing for anyone, except David Miscavige.
The IAS uses money to silence people who are willing to tell the criminal activity of Scientology, L Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige.
The IAS uses money for Fair Game – hiring private investigators to spy on ex members who KNOW the truth about the crimes Scientology is hiding.
IAS – uses money to hire the sleaziest and most criminal attorneys in the land so they can continue to hide behind the religious cloak and harm people of good will.
Does not take a rockest scientist like Jack Parson’s to really see the scam of Scientology and the IAS.
Just LOOK.
Lurkers still in – Ask the IAS Regg next time they show up at your door and won’t leave – for transparency. Ask to see how they spend the money. Get the actual financial statements.
People give millions to the IAS and then when a disaster hits – Scientology asks you to pay your own way to get to the disaster, pay for a VM T-Shirt, pay for your food and expenses, work for free, get yourself home and they will take photos of you helping and then give the IAS and Scientology the credit.
I almost wish I hadn’t read this. It’s making my blood boil. Bastards! All that money and all the little shit can spend it on is: new orgs, PI’s, legal fees, and of course, custom-made suits and shoes. I hope that little prick gets what he deserves some day!
Oh, and they have to buy him expensive presents every year. He probably needs an airplane hanger to store all that crap he’s accumulated and doesn’t need.
So, in addition to everything else he is another adjective can sure be gluttonous.
That $4000 per month to cover the wages for 3 people will come up short by a tad over $618 per month if they pay minimum wage and work 40 hours per week.
Min wage in Florida is $8.25.
$8.25 x 40 hours per week x 52 weeks x 3 employees / 12 months = $4,290 per month.
Add 7.62% employer share of FICA and the total outlay per month is $4,618.19, the total monthly payroll for 3 employees.
Of course Scientologists may believe religiously that a month has only 4 weeks. I’m sure if they go on a campaign of lawsuits, letter writing, puppy theft, and harassment of government employees they can get a month changed to exactly 4 weeks – but then they will have to add another whole month to each year.
How about naming the new month Dwarf? Short? Little?
I’m not giving a penny until I find out what a “Human Rights Music and Education tour” is, exactly.
Just the usual song and dance.
“Don’t these people EVER get sick of the demands for money?
Don’t these people ever wonder what happens to all the money they DO give?”
And that’s the $1,000,000,000+ question 🙂 It’s a mystery my friends. (at least to me)
Besides being a non-SO or SO Staff at CCHR the pay is microscopic – 160 people need to give $25.00 a month = 4,000. Apparently they need it for 3 staff, so = 1,300.00 per person a month.
Maybe that is why they ‘use-abuse’ Sea Org staff as much as possible, after all they only earn minuscule wages.
More interesting though is the fact that they preach Human Rights while exploiting people? Go figure…
I figured it a little differently, because “3 more need to be hired”, so 6 total staff for $4,000/month equates to approximately $666 per month or about $150 or so per week per person. I suppose at least that’s better than $50/week (if the stats are up).
More interesting though is the fact that they preach human rights while exploiting people.
My thoughts exactly. Scamology is one contradiction after another!
It seems to bear out that the successful con artists always profess to be not doing what they say they claim loudly and continually that they are doing, while doing what they loudly and continually claim they would never do. Its interesting to observe such characters , be they businessmen or politicians or religious leaders. Not to get biblical but Jesus had their numbers…”Oh, ye hypocrites!”
Amen to that!
Wow. I can still get that same feeling I had back then when all we did was beg for money over and over and over and over and over. Ugh. The lies are so transparent to all but them.
Hubbard was quite clever when he said: ” If you want to get rich, you start a religion”. It is not a surprised that Scientologists are happy to give and give again more and more of their money… they are “buying their stairway to heaven”! In this peculiar situation it would be better to say : buying, “miles from nowhere” … but it is another story!
Money spent building that bridge to nowhere. Not to mention the ruination of so many lives.
Where are you U.S. government to take down this abusive and damaging cult? Too many politicians worrying about their unscrupulous private lives being exposed by OSA if they remove the IRS exemption? Hard to believe it’s only France with the cojones to call this cult a cult and rejected as a church but calling it for what it actually is.
Good point since Americans like to say that the French are a bunch of wimps and that all the French Army knows how to do is give up and surrender.
Sheesh!
Alcoboy, America is a big and diverse country. Only very stupid, ignorant Americans (and they’re out there) “hate” the French and they very likely have never been to France or even met any French people.
Many years ago I planned a trip thru Europe. “Don’t go to France! Don’t waste your money in that country! French people HATE Americans, ESPECIALLY the Parisiens, who are stuck up and insufferable!
That’s what everyone I knew said when I told them my itinerary.
I went anyway. Spent a week in Germany and, steeling myself for bad treatment, a week in France, mostly in Paris, but we did see the country on the train to Paris and then leaving to travel south to Madrid.where we spent a few days, and then back on the train to Southern Spain to rest up on the beach.
Long story short: the French were – amazing to us. Lovely! We didn’t know a soul. Total tourists, nobodies, my friend and I, travelling on a shoe string – we weren’t exactly throwing money around – and these so-called American haters could not have been more friendly or helpful. People you’d almost expect to be rude in any big city – cab drivers, metro (subway) clerks, people like that, went out of their way for us! And Paris being so beautiful, I couldn’t help it, I was a goner, I fell in love with it, with the city and everyone in it.. Speaking a bit of French helped.
Point being, with a few glaring exceptions, I’d bet that most people in MOST countries are decent people who appreciate visitors making a bit of an effort with their language by treating them kindly and respectfully.
I hope I get a chance to find out!
Well, je suis tres bon et je ne suis pas merde.
Merci, beaucoup.
Alors, c’est bon a savoir, et de rien 🙂
Social Betterment Properties International (aka CSI) owns the CCHR Int building in LA. I’m sure that they support CCHR by giving them a break on the rent. Right?
No. They don’t give any break on the rent. They demanding it like no tomorrow.
IAS, like usual, is a parasite. IAS falsely claiming credit for “wins” and falsely claiming to have provided the support for those “wins” is their standard operating procedure. I used to see this all the time, especially in the IAS October event and the Maiden Voyage events centering on the IAS. For example, IAS would tout legal win after legal win and usually they contributed exactly ZERO to the win – no money, no work put in, nothing. They would only get to work bragging about it after the fact. IAS staff were arrogant, entitled and useless.
Not only useless but suppressive, preventing me from leaving a personal reg session. Kept me up until 2 AM and I wasn’t sessionable at 9 AM. This was at flag and when I told my class XII Ls auditor what had happened, the IAS was booted from the premises.
I wonder how many deaths CCHR has been responsible by their discouragement of people with mental illness from seeking appropriate care. They’re no better than the anti-vaccination whackos.
Scientology raises you above all humanity but only cash donations in return for nothing will raise you above other Scientologists. Is that
just dumb or some frail, weak egos that got con’ed by a ASI REG that they will be king or queen until next Thursday?
The confidence game SCIENTOLOGY plays is really with the IRS. Everyone else is a pawm that is fleeced and tossed aside. Poor bastards still in!
Wow. Well, all I gotta say is that the guy who thought up this whole idea of starting a religion and then starting secular groups around that religion and then starting a religious organization that will raise tax-free dollars to help those secular organizations but not having to be accountable to the IRS was BRILLIANT!
Diabolical.
How does “Kahnology” sound…? 😉
When we were in we called it (out of earshot of anyone who mattered) DIAMONDetics and SCAMAtology. Thats’ WHEN WE WERE STILL DRINKING the Koolaid!
@ Valerie – WOW!
About as appealing as the word “Scientology.”
Mary Kahn – when you really look at what created Scientology – I am reluctant to say – but members made up Scientology with L Ron Hubbard.
Members helped create what we have today.
First he got people to believe he had the answers to life – then people assisted him in his criminal activities without knowing they were doing harm by lying and covering up.
“In the best interest of all 8 dynamics” is one huge justification members used.
Just look at the fact that Hubbard claimed the HAT WRITE UPS must be done in order for someone in Scientology to give up their post.
Hubbard claimed you had to write up your hat or you would never get out of that job.
Clever little trick.
People wrote up their Hats and Hubbard copied what worked and what did not work from the Hat Write ups.
Then he took credit for everything good and blamed others for everything bad.
Then – when Scientology did not work – Hubbard demanded that people not speak about it.
People complied.
Hubbard covered up everything negative and bad (THERE WAS A LOT)
People / members inside Scientology helped cover it up.
Like other evil cults – people inside help create the monster.
Think about how much help Hubbard had to create this viscious and evil cult.
Much like the way Hitler got away with murdering 6 million jews.
He did not do it alone.
He had some help.
Right. It always takes a village to create an evil empire – small or large.
Anyone who went down the rabbit hole for just a little bit or for a little while contributed in some way to maintaing the fraud and cruelties. I think there are varying degrees of contributing to it. But I think for the most part one has to get OUT of scientologyTO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT REALLY IS and to understand to what degree he/she contributed to it.
I see life as a continual creation.
I willingly, proudly and ignorantly supported a criminal organization for 25 years. With this support, , I gave it that much more strength and endurance. For whatever the reasons I did them, my actions over the years were all to help, protect, and expand the Church of Scientology. Due to my support, whatever Co$ was when I left was my creation. Not wholly my creation of course. But I helped. I supported it. That’s what I was creating, back then. Whatever it is now is partly my creation too, due to my opposition and lack of support. I’m creating something different now.
Idle Morgue,
I think the large differences in numbers of blind followers and their degrees of compliance/ complicity between the two groups should be mentioned. But I do get your point.
You have compressed around 15 years of growing acceptance, from Mein Kampf and DMSMH, before either Hitler or Hubbard had a following that would follow with blinders. And another 5 years or so for some hard core believers to develop and act as you have portrayed above. Hubbard’s infiltrations and safe-pointing have not succeeded, whereas Hitler’s did : Then the internet ripped the cult open to view, and has limited their future existence.
I will be forever grateful that the Demented Midget sicced his lawyers onto the internet to take down the Tom Cruise video in 2008.
Its occurring to me that the Still Ins may not be so much willfully blind as just plain OLD, and stuck in their HABITS. Habits can be hard to break at any age but particularly so in old age. Too much work, its too hard, they’re too tired. So much easier to just stay in the comfort zone, just go along, etc. Possibly only a very great blast of a shock could give them the fortitude to break this habit. A number of former innies on this blog sustained huge shocks, life changed that rocked their world, that woke them up, FORCED them to t look and pay attention, blasted them out of their complacency, their long-ingrained Scientology habits. Just a theory.
Good theory.
“Don’t these people EVER get sick of the demands for money?”
Mike, if they’re still giving, then apparently not. To them, forking over large sums of cash is what Scientology is all about. Seriously, I’m starting to think that this is nothing more than Scientology’s version of ‘seed faith’ and that it won’t stop until Scions turn on the TV and watch Miscavige being led off to prison for financial crimes. It took something like this to convince Jim Bakker’s followers that he was a flim flam man and not a man of God as he claimed. Miscavige played it right in 1993 with his ‘War Is Over event in that he set himself up as some sort of messiah who was going to save Scientology and the world and he has people blinded to this.
“Mike, if they’re still giving, then apparently not.”
Nailed it, Alcoboy.
Sure they’re are gradients of getting sick of something but in THIS cult, REALLY sick of it means NO MORE DOUGH.
Zero sum.
Many people here will attest to this!
Maybe some of those Billboards like the ones they have with: CURIOS ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY? Then put a link to this blog? Someone might be brave enough to check it out.
Meh, I tend to disagree to a degree. I think some people are still giving because they are afraid of what will happen if they stop (disconnection or brutal ethics anyone?), not because they aren’t sick of it.
Yes, you’re right, actually. Fear is stronger than disgust.
it could go either wsy. There could be those afraid of being routed to Ethics and then there could be the True Believers who donate out of faith in the system.