Boy, here is some really good news from Tampa model ideal SH size org.
For the paltry sum of $13,750 you can CO-AUDIT your way to Clear (you will also need the new GOAT CCRD after that and they won’t give it to you for free, but you will sort of be clear, at least as clear as you can be without having someone else verify you are not clear so you can be sold some more stuff).
But Thomas, don’t you realize NOBODY is ever “in your area.” Nobody lives in that area. It’s tourists and people from Tampa eating out at night. Maybe a few people pass within 1/2 mile on their way to Ikea.
And if after all this time, the model ideal orgs in Tampa only have 15 auditors each, they are a LONG way from SH Size still. That is less than 500 hours per week — and the SH size “quota” is 1000.
And while we are on the subject, what happened to the Mission you used to have in South Bay? And is that white elephant in Plant City open more than a couple of hours a week? Or St Pete? You are supposed to be opening new missions and turning THEM into new orgs? That’s what Dear Leader said. Not only no new orgs, no new missions. In fact, since being an ideal model SH size org you have LOST missions. And you have 12,000 scientologists in the local field? (at least according to Karin). With those sort of stats, I would be a little worried about my future Mr. “Field Control Sec.”
Things are not looking too wonderful in Tampa….
Dear Mary,
Tampa is expanding like never before. We added over 50 Staff in the
last couple of months, our Tech is over 30 Auditors strong and we
deliver miracles every day.
I am sure you know some people that would benefit from our fantastic
delivery. Intensives start as low as $1875. Or not to mention the
Academy. All the way up including Co-Auditing to Clear for as little as
$13750.
Any ideas Mary?
Let me know. Or come by if you are in our area. Coffee is waiting 🙂
ml, Thomas Ernst
FCS Tampa Day
I live in San Jose , the los Gatos ideal org looks so sad , its mostly older folks and their kids who I feel sorry for .
You nailed the COBbler’s over-sized shoes to the curb, with this one MIke! LOL! Trouble is, he saw you coming, and:made a hasty exit outta those 3″ platforms!! “Get me another pair, you F^%$#@&@# !!!”
–Hickory dickory docK.
The mouse ran up the clock! (in his cotton-pickin’ socks)
The clock struck one (more time, on the ego, just for good measure)
The mouse fell down (with an ominous, humiliating, 3″ thud!)
— Hickory dickory dock!
A traditional joke among people who worked in bookstores was always the sales of Dianetics and other LRH tripe. The books were returned and thrown out as fast as they were picked off shelves. It was a never-ending cycle of tree destruction, and this was Tampa I speak of. Many college students worked at the big bookstores, which were booming then – late ’80s to mid ’90s. Always plenty of new LRH fare to fill dumpsters! Plus, it was the same elderly types doing this buy/return operation. It was obviously their job to keep sales inflated.
Ann – When I first got in, I helped the staff sell Dianetic’s books at the Witch fairs etc. I was really bad at it…never sold one book.
I told a staff member that they should change the cover of Dianetic’s.
That volcano made no sense and was spooky…like something was about to erupt.
Then – my life did ….erupt….and it got worse and worse and worse while I am waxing enthusiastic suck-cess stories along my rocket ride up the Bridge to total amnesia, confusion and spiritual decay.
When I think about that after I left the cult, I realized it is my personality – whatever I embark upon – I am a positive person…and I just wanted to be RIGHT about Scientology and the L Ron Hubbard.
I am proud to say – I was wrong. Very wrong! Almost – dead wrong! Humiliated and WRONG. The whole thing is a complete scam.
Oh – there are some “wins” I had in Scientology.. but so do Meth heads and herion addicts have wins AT FIRST….then it turns on them and destroys….
That is the best analogy of Scientology I can think of.
Little did I know back then…that L Ron Hubbard promises – “May you never be the same” – well, he was right about that! I will never be the same. None of us will.
Old Surfer Dude – I did eventually get trained….and it made no difference. When I took the Metering course – I realized Scientology did not work – the meter was a complete and utter joke.
My meter got smashed on my drive way and is rotting in some land fill – where it can help the planet go clear of e-meters forever more.
Gosh, Idle, that’s quite the post! You and I, and many others here, knows what it’s like to be on staff, let alone SO. It was a mind bending world we lived and worked in.
When a B of I was done on me, i realized how insane this group really was. A short time later I was gone.
Since I never had the time to surf while on staff in Hawai’i, the first thing I did with my new found freedom was to paddle out at Waikiki Beach and catch some tasty waves! I’ll tell you Idle, when I caught my first wave, I had more so-called case gain than I EVER got in the cult. It was pure freedom!
I wish you had taken a picture of your smashed up e-meter and posted it here with a sign that says: “This is scientology! It’s crap just like my meter.”
Hi Idle Morgue,What a great post,thank you so much.It is truly a moment that hung and swung in time,when I finally realized that all Ron’s SO World,was crackling & fading around me.In my SO time I was told by many exes who I really liked then,”that I would never be the same”after joining the SO.And most important I would always be protected if anything went wrong.That should have been a red flag,I did not see that at the time.Some years later when I strongly asked for protection from the antics of the GOI,I was left to twist in the wind.A lot of this recall has only surfaced in the past month.SO situations can lie dormant in memory for years & then reappear.Sometimes I feel we were all in some crazy hypnotism game & the more we played the more into Ron’s/David’s World we were pulled into.Always Ann.
“…we deliver miracles every day.”
I thought masturbating was outlawed in the Cof$…
(coffee all over my computer now!) Oh my! NOW THAT’S SOME REALLY, REALLY FUNNY SHIT! I laughed myself silly. My compliments, I Yawnalot! Still can’t stop laughing…
The cheap, cheap, cheap bird is really a vulture in disguise.
“Coffee is waiting.”
Coffee at teh Org: starting at $13,750
Coffee at Starbucks: starting at $2
Which will you choose?
Hi hgc10, After Sea Org coffee from big coffee pots that did or did not behave according to their coffee tone level that day!Your post is so true.I’ll take Starbucks but more likely
Community Coffee from BR,LA.My Best Ann.
“We added over 50 Staff in the last couple of months” I wonder how many of them stayed.
We added over 50 staff, 49 of them left which is why we had to add 50. Acceptable truthing your way through another email is my guess.
I would venture to guess these staff, some percentage of them, were offloaded from the base.
“We added over 50 staff in the last couple of months.” interpretation: 49 of them left because the DBs, CICS moaned that they couldn’t live on 35 cents a day. We are mankind’s ONLY hope and they complain about their paycheck!!! When they all get to Target Two, the old man is NOT going to be happy. Remember: JUST MAKE IT GO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Intensives start as low as $1875.” That cost is AKA a mortgage payment, a vacation, investment in a CD or Roth IRA or many other things.
And most times when something is advertised as, “starts as low as…” it rarely means what you want or are attempting to get is actually that price. It’s generally (though not always) a carrot dangling at the end of a string to get you in and try and get you to buy bigger/better, or not mentioning all the add-ons required to enable the “base item” to work.
This reminds me of car dealership advertising, and many know that car shopping is an unpleasant experience with loads of items they try and tack on or small print crud that makes the “as low as” not low at all.
“Intensives start as LOW as $1,875. BraveBloggers, you hit the nail on the head! Some things come to mind: A surf vacation on Maui. A massive new curved ‘flat screen.’ A trip to Disney World. A fantastic trip up Highway 1 (along the coast of California) to the redwoods. Paying down on any debt. Or, just keeping the money instead of giving it to a cult! Damn I’m glad I’m out…
Why would anybody today spend over thirteen large for the scientology state of “clear” when they can spend zero money and just enjoy being conscious? It’s the same thing and a lot cheaper.
You are one smart man, Roger. It’s only because of the insanity that they can’t see it. There’s a place called Iao (E OW) Valley just above Historic Wailuku on the island of Maui. Most spiritual place I’ve ever hiked. And…it’s free!
But, as I tell people, if you’re looking for the “prize,” whatever you consider the “prize” to be, you’re never going to find it. Why, because you are, in fact, the price you’re looking for. And folks, it’s as simple as that…
YOU are one smart dude, Surfer Dude, to know you can never find the truth because you are the truth you seek and it is IMPOSSIBLE to find what was never lost.
Hi Roger Hornaday, OK y’all you are honestly making me shed a saltwater tear,but I found an oyster to and there was a pearl of wisdom=Mike, Christie & this blog.Infinity,Ann.
“If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.”
Roger, I sit at the feet of the master: You! I believe both of us, though, are on the same frequency here. …”it is IMPOSSIBLE to find what was never lost.” Very deep and very true…
I’m glad you post here.
“And you have 12,000 scientologists in the local field?”
ROFL! These violently insane crooks have maybe at most some 30,000 remaining customers world wide yet the crooks want to claim that 40% of them are local to that area “in the field?” LOL! The abject lunacy of these insane, delusional crooks is astounding. 🙂
They are “in the local field” which is why they can’t be found in the Church. The staff think the reason they are not in the Org, is because they are broke, dilettante’s, out ethics, down stat, unworthy, PTS, smaller beings, etc etc. Yes, they are out there, millions and millions of Scientologists are OUT THERE in the FIELD. Just being down stats. The fact that the Org is empty has NOTHING to do with management. Because if anyone of them looked on the Internet to KNOW about the current CONDITION, they would be punished for finding out!
There are two “homegrown” religions currently in the U.S. (that are on the radar with anybody really paying attention). The Mormons, and Scientology.
If anyone were really PERMITTED to do a doubt formula and compare stats:
SALT LAKE CITY — The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reached a new milestone this month: More than 75,000 missionaries are currently serving throughout the world. This total is a dramatic increase from a year ago, when about 58,500 young men and women were serving as Mormon missionaries in September 2012.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1016&sid=26517738
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700103390/14-million-Mormons-and-counting.html?pg=all
I live in Utah and can attest there are several million Mormons just in my area. They have built a sustainable symbiotic culture that is actually very impressive. They treat one another with kindness and are very helpful to one another and the communities they SERVE.
And, their “leaderSSSSSSSSSSSSSS” (many) do not have restraining orders on them in Texas for domestic terrorism.
I don’t think anybody out here with a wide distance from the Church knew anything about the actual numbers of Scientologists until Mike was forthcoming about it.
Numbers are Miscavige’s Achilles heel. He lies about it to overwhelm. The Scientology numbers are all he’s got to be a mover and shaker in society. You watch his events it’s numbers EVERYWHERE all over the screen. The numbers, mean people will listen to him. If he is backed by millions he will use that as a tool. Decline in membership is a death sentence.
If you want to go back to the days when Leonard Cohen and Clint Eastwood were getting auditing, you will find the number of celebrities in Scientology has also dwindled. That fact that Miscavige has video cameras in every auditing room right now,….I mean that is NOT for the P.C.. If the Church doesn’t trust the auditor why are they selling auditing? “Can we film for you for own benefit”? Is really the message here. The fact that the Church does it COVERTLY is actually criminal in the State of California. Who the hell wants to pay for counseling and get filmed and used at the same time for the benefit of the company? Police stations film interviews, not Church’s. Someone I know on lines at C.C. Int (by way of a relative) told me recently C.C. Int is a mortuary.
And, unfortunately for David, Mike Rinder is very good at the math and putting it out on the table. Actual stats are tallied here.
But I think the staff actually just believe these numbers David spits out at these Scientology hootenannies he throws, to celebrate himself.
I think all they know how to do is lie, now. What else CAN it do while it implodes. The truth would not be an option for this group. They know its only a matter of time, so just blatantly lie to everyone about it and let the end come when it comes. Enron comes to mind, just off the top of my head. PR was glowingly positive right up to the last. It appears to me that the cult is playing it this way – everything Fine On Cloud Nine right up until its all over.
Well, Fredric, this is what insanity will do to you. I believe you’re right about the remaining 30,000. BUT, how many are completely under the radar??? You know, not doing any courses or auditing. Just bidding their time so their family won’t be forced to disconnect from them? And, as EACH day passes, more leave. Pretty soon the cult will only need one very small room to stay in business…
There used to be a mission in Elizabeth, New Jersey (the home of L. Ron Hubbard’s ORIGINAL Dianetics Research Foundation on Aberdeen Street). The mission was open about 16 hours a week whenever the people who worked there could find the time in their busy schedules to help their fellow man in some way. It then moved a few blocks away to a busier street and then closed. At about the same time the mission of Teaneck, New Jersey also closed. Then there were none. Finally a new one opened in Hawthorne, New Jersey and in Elizabeth, New Jersey a Spanish dentist opened a mission in the back room his dental office. I don’t think anyone can fit a desk in there never mind roaring Saint Hill size public. In addition any materials offered are in English and the entire area is 90% Hispanics, almost all of whom do not have good English. Is that LRH tech in action? Is that people starting on their bridges or routes to Clear? VOTE NO to the Church of Scientology in the 2015 elections! 🙂
“But Thomas, don’t you realize NOBODY is ever “in your area.” Nobody lives in that area. It’s tourists and people from Tampa eating out at night. Maybe a few people pass within 1/2 mile on their way to Ikea.”
That has been the way at *all* the remaining Scientology business offices. Anyone who happens to walk past a Scientology business or looks through the window is treated as suspicious, as possibly a police officer, someone who is scouting for the Federal raids or something.
It’s very amusing. If someone actually comes near a Scientology book store or other business office, the crooks know damn well they’re not a customer or ever going to be a customer, they look at people in fear and wonder if they’re cops or reporters.
Have you ever shown up at one of their fake “Sunday services” that they some times advertise? If you do show up, nobody knows where the “services” are being held, nobody knows anything about it, the building their fraudulent advertising claims is “holding services” is empty, locked, deserted, and on rare occasions when someone real shows up for a “Sunday service,” the crooks scramble to try to find someone — any crook — to come over and explain how the “Sunday services” were held already, “you’re late.”
It’s highly amusing.
Their bookstores are suffering the same fate as all other brick and mortar stores – people buy their books on Amazon and Ebay, and for a lot less. Borders Books went out of business, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Barnes and Noble went down. They seem to be struggling.
I doubt they even believe half of what they are saying. They are inside the bubble, and telling a pack of lies keeps them on post and out of the RPF.
She could have said ‘coffee is free’, maybe someone will show up that way.
I would! Hey, free is, well, you know, free!
15 auditors in each org? Wow that’s pretty decent.
YEah, compared to other orgs it is Mike. But that is what happens, the standards of what is the correct order of magnitude are determined by what is considered normal inside the bubble.
15 auditors will never even make a dent on the increase in population in Tampa, let alone the 4 million already here.
And who knows how many of those 15 are “Book One” and “SRD” auditors.
True, esp on the ” Book One” Auditors, or even better yet “co-auditors”. My guess is they have maybe 5 HGC Auditors each.
Quite correct Mike. I remember back in the biggest, booming days of Scn (the 70’s) going through Org files at F.B. the VAST majority of the Class IV Orgs were factually in what we at the time would call, Non-existence. Which de facto matched public demand for the “tek”.
As someone who’s gambled on the stockmarket. I have to say if I saw a company bragging about how many technicians it had and how perfect it’s production and sales facilities were. Without ever mention the amount of people arriving to those facilities or sales figures but instead tries tells one about huge sale it’s having. I’d know it was a company looking at bankruptcy as soon as it’s funding sources dried up.
They only really need one auditor – from the IRS.
Who is the target audience for this sales pitch? I see poorly aimed marketing in this missive. Is Tampa trying to get someone elses customers? By advertising a price, Ernst is trying to suck in someone who got a higher quote elsewhere. Such behavior is going get him in trouble.
The Importance of Being Ernst is not going to fly at the comm ev.
It’s not what it costs to get in —– but the price to get out.
And we all knows what the entails…
A high price indeed
Laughter! Very witty.
I wonder if the $13750 includes the per policy 2 spiffy new Mark something E- Meters?
Desperate times call for desperate prices.
“Desperate times call for desperate prices.” (spewing coffee out my nose). Now that’s some funny shit! Way to go, Zola!
I don’t think that the training package price (co-auditing to Clear) includes an emeter. Emeters are sold separately. And yes, if you are going to co-audit to Clear, you will be expected to have two emeters because your meter might die in session and you’ll have to have your spare meter ready to go. It wouldn’t be fitting to use your twin’s meter either because it would be ‘off policy.’ Four emeters are necessary to audit two people – per policy.
That still blows me away! It’s lightly similar to saying I need two cars in case mine doesn’t start to ensure I can drive to church. AND I Can’t borrow another’s car, take a bus or a cab. I can only, per policy, get to my destination in my primary or secondary automobile.
I know it’s a poor example, but it’s equally foolish (IMHO) in terms of applicability and practice/policy. SMH
Plus both would probably have to pay for Cramming, CSing, Review or Repair.
The only time I saw co-audits work was with M1.
Come to think of it, they would have to do the Purif, Basics, Objectives and whatever else is a pre-req for GAT II before co-auditing ARC Straightwire up to Clear.
LOTS of time and MONEY and a hope that GAT III or some wild change in the Grade Chart doesn’t come out after say they make it to Grade 1.
They are trying to get “money on account” and that is all it is. There are no levels of awareness called Clear or OT. Just look at the brainwashed robots still in Scientology? OMG!
“Thomas Ernst FCS Tampa Day”
Is Tampa still maintaining the fiction that they have separate Day and Foundation Orgs?
“Coffee is waiting” – I’m definitely stopping by the next time I’m in the area……
Oh hell yes! A Scotsman can’t possibly pass up a cup of FREE coffee. Roger, I’ll meet you there! Do you think they might even have donuts? FREE coffee and donuts would make my month!
“our Tech is over 30 Auditors strong and we deliver miracles every day.”
REALLY? If I were doing that I would be a billionaire or, the subject of SO much externally generated good press that I wouldn’t have time to do anything but talk to reporters.
Alas, the subject was created by a pathological liar and continues to be staffed by birds of a similar plumage.
If all they did was drunk person assists they would at least be welcomed at the local watering holes.
They might be welcomed at the local watering holes, but only until the cops gave one of those newly “sober” people a breathalyzer test then busted them for DUI.
I LOLed at this truth!
Meanwhile, back at the Model, Ideal, Idle, SH size Tampa Morgue:
Staff member 1: Hey, what’s all the commotion about?
Staff member 2: YOU DIDN’T HEAR??? We have two people INSIDE the org that are actually thinking of buying a book!!!!!
Staff 1: Holy fucking shit! What do you want me to do???
Staff 2: You fucking dumb ass! Go out and get them some coffee!!!
Staff 1: But, but…we have coffee here…
Staff 2: You fucking moron! Our coffee is so bad you can use it to clear rust off of our pipes! Don’t you know ANYTHING???
(2 hours later) Staff 1: I’ve got it!!! I’ve got it!!!
Staff 2: What the fuck took you so damn long???
Staff 1: The only Starbucks I know of is in Orlando.
Staff 2: Can you possibly be anymore stupid??? Ok, now, go and give them their coffee and talk with them. We need money so bad one of the female staff is walking the streets.
Staff 1: Here’s your coffee. It’s from Starbucks! So…what brings you in?
Wogs: Just curious about what you folks do here.
Staff 1: Well, we can make you into Super Big Beings! You’ll be able to leave your body at will and travel around the universe! You’ll be able to read minds. You’ll never, ever, ever get sick! You’ll be superior to all the other people on the planet! And then you can join staff and help us clear earth!
Wogs: (looking at the staff member and mumbling – “Hey, you think he’s on drugs or something?” “Oh, he’s on something alright, I just don’t know what it could be.” ” He’s kind of frothing at the mouth, but, smiling at the same time.” “Man, that’s just scary!”
Wogs getting ready to exit the cult when the staff member comes up to them.
Staff 1: Hey, hey, where you going? I thought you were interested in buy a book or two?
Wogs: Oh, ahhhhh, yeaaaaah. Ya see, we’ve got to meet some friends for lunch.
Staff 1: Well will you be coming back after you eat and bringing your friends with you??????
Wogs: Sure! Sure we will! We’ll come back when Hell freezes over!
Staff 1: Does that mean you’ll come back when the weather gets a little cooler? I know it’s kind of hot here. Is that what you mean? I’ll save a couple of copies of DMSMH for you! Can I get your phone number and address?
Wogs: Yep, when Hell freezes over and the weather is cooler, we’ll come back.
Staff 1: OMG!!!!! THANKS SO MUCH! THIS WILL REALLY HELP MY STATS! YOU GUYS ARE GREAT! I REALLY ENJOYED TALKING WITH YOU! I’LL SEE YOU WHEN THE WEATHER GETS A LITTLE COOLER!!!!!!!!!
Staff 2: Well…how’d it go!
Staff 1: FANTASTIC! WE HAD GREAT COMM AND THEY REALLY SEEMED INTERESTED.
Staff 2: When are they coming back!
Staff 1: They said they would be back when Hell freezes over. It means they’ll come back when the weather cools down a little bit:
Staff 1: THE RPF?!?! I almost had them sold on their entire bridge!!!! Why are you sending me to the RPF. What did I do wrong? And when will you let me out?
Staff 2: When Hell freezes over…
Hi OSD,Your post today is a great ride! Thank you always,Ann.
Old Surfer Dude: THAT was so funny. Please contact RB for a post as a writer for his hysterical comic each week. LOVED IT!
I remember being that “enthusiastic” when WOG would just not run away from a book booth at the local witch fair. (We could not get into any legitimate venues so we went for the witch fairs and fortune teller conferences). LOL
A wog would come up to the book booth. I would ask them if they want a FREE STRESS TEST. They would grab the cans. (I was not even ‘trained’ yet but was doing the “Patter Drill”.
Nothing would happen on the needle – but I would shout out – THAT – THAT RIGHT THERE …what were you thinking? They would say “NOTHING”. I would think they were either a “theetie wheetie” or a crim – per LRH!
Do you guys remember saying “John Travolta and Chick Corea uses Dianetics EVERYDAY” ??? We were the CRIMINALS lying to the public. No one uses Dianetics everyday. WTF did LRH put that in Dianetic’s for? OMG – what a joke!
Hi Idle Morgue,You blasted me to,the past with your post.Chick Corea wore out the PA system @ ASHO- Temple St & JT did not come to ASHO in my day,but I do remember that admonition,that they used Dianetics every day.With my trouble with it if I had done that to the exclusion of any other steps,well life would be so beautiful..I don t think so.That volcano on the cover still echoes for me because in one sense Ron threw all SO members in and waited to see who made it out.Creepy.Ann.
OSD, ya know it’s illegal to covertly record peoples conversation…
Ann B. Watson @ “That volcano on the cover still echoes for me because in one sense Ron threw all SO members in and waited to see who made it out.Creepy.Ann.”
Wow, that was a great observation. I said once the Church was a big womb and got too crowded for some people. But when they popped out of the womb they were hunted down as enemies. Very anti dissemination. Even with the “2d rules” and antipathy towards children and pregnant women. It’s like a big womb that wants the child to live and die inside it. It’s become a polluted womb. It’s sane to make your way out of a womb. Even “wogs” get some applause and birth certificates.
Thanks, Idle, Ann and John!
And John? I do know that’s illegal. However, the staff member was such an idiot, he spoke right into the mic! On his own. With no prompting from me. He asked me who I was and I replied, “Peter Pan.” He told me he had heard of me and wanted my autograph.
And Idle, I still think RB is THE BEST! Not sure what I could add.
I am glad that you are out! Not being trained and then being tossed out to the sidewalk to flag down Wogs is a real pisser! But, that’s what this cult does. And then people scream at you to: “JUST MAKE IT GO RIGHT!.” Fuck I hated hearing that shit when I was in. it made want to go all type III on their collective asses.
Not true, John Locke. My husband once did an assist on a drunk guy back in the 70’s, and when the guy sobered up he complained that he’d spent $20 to get hammered.
LMAO!
Hi The Oracle, Thank you love your post. Maybe that is why I was born 8/1/51 at 1lb. I had 5 Drs. in Boston one who was from Japan & had worked in the country putting preemie babies in bread ovens to survive.He had my incubator set at that temp of a bread oven & without a lot of drugs which were not on the radar then for lung problems etc I made it.So your post really resonated with me.Incidentally my late Mom & I were never ever close my first Mom had been a machine.Literally I was in it until I was 4 months old.Creepier!Back then no one took you out of the darn thing.A polluted womb as cos,great & troubling observation.XOAnn.
Exactly, if any of these frauds actually worked, the insane crooks would not need to advertise leave alone continually try to defraud their dying customer base. It’s the same with all such quack medical frauds, if any of it actually worked, people would be buying it world wide, it would be used, they wouldn’t have to lie and cheat, still and kill their customers or hold them against their will or create deadly quack medical frauds like “NarCONon” to try to sell their products.
Exactly Fredric. WAY back this is what got me to wake up.
I was in the Technical Division at FSO (before any Cult of Scamology members start shrieking, this was WAY before DM was in charge) and I noticed that getting “clears” and “OTs” to pay for their next level of Super Human powers was like getting a victim of Tomás de Torquemada to sign up for more time on the rack.
Heh, wait! Scientology auditing and training is free. I guess these monetary figures refer to the fixed donation rates the parishioners are expected to donate before they can be regarded as worthy of receiving the services.
It’s messages like this one that the IRS might find interesting…nothing about donations, it’s so obviously selling a service for a price, just like any other business, absolutely nothing like a tax-exempt church!!
Hello Kathy H,
I believe that per legal dictionaries, to truly be a donation, nothing must be expected in return.
Anyone care to comment? I mean, why is a corporation being allowed to define/change definitions of words? Hmm?
Ann Ashley, it is not relevant what a legal dictionary says in this matter. ALL that matters is what the IRS has agreed to with the CoS.
BTW, it isn’t an offense for any being or entity to change the definitions of words. Otherwise the jails would be filled up with politicians. 😉
Oh well, my UK friend, these people are getting “clear” for less than ever before. That is : never, since none has ever been produced since may ninteen fifty!
“The work was free. Keep it so.” L. Ron Hubbard.
Right.
FOTF2012, then why did El Con charge outrageous prices to receive it?
Actions tell the tell, written lies…
Hi FOTF2012, In my first full day on The Excalibur that quote was part of a poem by Ron I completely loved.Today I know the opposite is true.It still is incredible to me how much I lived in Ron’s World.Ann.
“The work was free. Keep it so.” L. Ron Hubbard.
He’s not called a pathological liar for nothing!