Do these people even realize what they are saying?
Do they have ANY concept of the orders of magnitude they are dealing with when they keep saying they are “making planetary clearing a reality?”
I guess they think this will convince people they need a LOT of money because the number is so big, rather than make them realize they should just give up and come up with some other plan for clearing the planet as this one they are operating on is nothing but pure fail.
They recently started publishing “Clear Numbers” again as you can see in this recent page from the Auditor Magazine:
The grand total is less than 63 thousand.
And this is EVERYONE who has EVER BEEN declared Clear since 1966. An enormously large percentage of those people are no longer scientologists, have been declared or are deceased.
But take that as the BEST CASE scenario. In about HALF A CENTURY the number of clears made is less than a quarter of the increase in earth’s population EVERY DAY.
And not to nitpick, but this is the AOSHUK Auditor Mag. They include people all over the world who have attested to Clear, most, if not all, have nothing to do with AOSHUK. And there is not a SINGLE PERSON from anywhere in the UK.
Fail, fail and more fail.
In retrospect, this was probably the beginning of my cognitive dissonance. Might not have the exact wording so please correct me if I’m wrong.
“No one could possibly be serious and win in this universe.” PDC Lecture 1952
“This is a deadly serious activity.” KSW 1965
Is it ok to point out that when they do go clear they realise that they haven’t got the reactive mind that they never had to start with? Or is that just too technical?
What is the reactive mind really. Yeah, you can start with it .. then you have one .. if you have never start with it you have none. How do you start with it?
When you cognited on Clear .. than you are Clear. It is not possible to cancel that. I have seen lot of people who became declared as Clear .. but were surely not. What is a Clear? LRH describes it all to time, but it is true that no one ever reached the Book One definitions .. there is nobody who could ever demonstrate that objectively. The point which I will make is, that when you run auditing .. you will adeqately find out one day that you mock-up everything .. if you check that, and know that for yourself .. you will get a jump into taking more responsibility to others .. you will stop to blame others for your own traumas .. it means you can now look to the whole scenario which exist now .. not longer influenced from or by cognitive dissonance ..
If you have checked that .. you have no liability to do it again. It is impossible. But if you do not have such a cognition .. you will run only another cognitive dissonance against others and the world .. which means you mock up still things which are not really there .. you are not cleared about .. you hold on your subjective realities not the objectives .. there is still a continuous pressed seven in your thinking .. which means that you are not cause over your own thinking .. so you can go for two or three or four Clear declares, but only when the person has never the right cognition about .. but if a person had the right cognition .. it is totally impossible to cancel that .. I mean, if you got it, you got .. it is not possible to redo that .. nobody can handle a nothingness as a somethingness .. not with a Clear ..
It is the same with Objectives. You cannot redo them when you had the basic cognition about. It means, when you can give the time span of present time you are really in present time orientated .. you cannot win a cognition again .. if you had it, you had it ..
Where’s the money in that?
There is about 7.000.000.000 x 500.000 in it .. you have only to do it ..
I think the KCET card is going to be played hard in 2015 to extract money from the whales — the only Scientologists left that are not totally tapped out of money. DM can ask them for hundreds of millions in donations to get a Scientology TV channel off the ground at some future date. And of course, it will never get off the ground in the next five years and he will have all that donations money to use for the day-to-day running of the Church worldwide, plus a few extra luxuries for his efforts.
I was counted as Clear No 25.700 or so .. nobody could get the same number .. but the church did cancel my declare .. did it never twice .. refused to do so .. was never interested to do the OT levels .. means they could not understand Clear really .. how they could understand OT ..
I remember Ros DeLacy as a very kind and warm person. She worked at St. Hill because she cared, as so many probably still do.
Fare well, Ros.
This mantra that everything is “rosy and expanding” is in concrete at this point. It’s like the woman who screams from the porch “he’s a good man”, as her husband is put in the cop car in cuffs, and the dead bodies are dragged out of the basement. It’s delusion on crack.
I remember showing up at PAC EPF thinking, “Yeah! Let’s clear the planet!” Nine months later, I was thinking, “Dang! This planet is never getting cleared…”
The time frame of birth bringing death.
I’d like to point out the obit for Ros. above. She was a Scientologist and on staff for over 55 years! But, was a ‘recent OT 5’?
I repeat: On staff, for 55 years, apparently much at Saint Hill, and she was only OT 5?! What’s wrong with this picture…
I sincerely hope the person who puts The Auditor together has a calculator next to them. If there are 63,000 Clears worldwide, and the worldwide population growth is 250,000 per day, then the number of new people eclipses the total number of Clears, ever, in about six hours. You ain’t clearing no planet, son.
I only attested to clear once but somehow I have 2 different clear numbers. Don’t have a clue how that happened. Also in the promo piece above, the name Svetlana Klyueva is listed twice with the same clear number 62,181. These people who do the promo pieces are not too swift.
Mike – I’m curious . . . who would take over the church if Miscavige went to prison or passed away or was thrown from his perch? Someone’s gotta be next in line.
Don’t tell anybody, okay? It’s Jenny Linson.
Nope. This Cult has reached the end of its line. From here on out it is a flat line …………… stick a fork in it.
Alexander Haig would be a nice fit if he were a scientologist and alive.
The North Korean style Scientology is all about ignoring facts. If you try to tell the bots anything that might wake them up, they think you are just communicating from the “reactive mind” and ignore your views. I was “recleared” after the “golden Age of tech” came out so if I am an SP then they cleared an “SP” or they lied about it and the golden age is a flop. They want to have it both ways and if they can’t then they just ignore the out-points and keep on gulping the kool-aide. I guess once you buy into the whole game you can always find something to justify you and your crazy friends.
Mike, Davey doesn’t look at those 63,000 clears the way you do. To him, they are 63,000 bodies in the shop who can be asked to re-do their hat (at their own expense), or buy a new emeter (even though the previous one was perfect) or get mailings about Davey’s great achievement.
Ros DeLacey, who is mentioned here as having passed away in May 2014, was known to many who did their upper levels at AOSHUK, as the Solo C/S.
It says she finished OT V, NOTs. Now maybe she did make it onto OTVII but didn’t attest it. AOSHUK has had a Universe Corps for many years. If she didn’t make it onto OTVII in 55 years, that is one hell of a sad story….
Greta
The subject of a Scientology clear has been so derided in the press and books that any new public will no more pay for “clear” than pay $25,000 for a Patron pin to move up in status with a bunch of Kooks. The front door of this organization is closed because new people are educated consumers. They are not bubble dwellers who buy each other’s bullshit.
I keep telling Miscavige, he should get his Dave channel and go into televangelism. He could be on stage daily instead of a half dozen times or so a year. So Davey boy, this one’s for you!
There’s no business like snow business like no business I know
Everything about it is appealing, everything that traffic will allow
Nowhere could you get that happy feeling when you are stealing that cash, oh wow!
There’s no people like snowed people, they smile when they are low
Even with a turkey that you know will fold, you keep on smiling with eyes so cold
As long as you are guaranteed that sack of gold, let’s go on with the show
There’s no business like snow business and I tell you it’s so
Talking to the planet is so thrilling, standing out in front on opening nights
Smiling as you watch your minions drilling, and there’s your billing out there in lights
There’s no people like snowed people, they smile when they are low
Finding all those brainwashed whales with lots of jack, and when you lose it, there’s no attack
Where could you get money that you don’t give back? let’s go on with the show
Maybe it’s not just time to move on to another plan. Maybe it’s time for them to move on to another planet! Just a thought…
If they are intending to advance themselves through the 1950’s bait-and-switch fraud of Dianetics –> Scientology –> BT’s then they might as well move to another planet because on planet Earth, people already know about this fraud or they can Google it. Maybe in the far East, where they are largely isolated from the West, they can make some good progress. That’s the only place they have a chance of pulling it off. But in the West, it no longer has a chance. It’s dead in the West except for the cult followers with any money left are still handing over their money in the hopes of the dream they call World Clearing.
http://pierreethier.wordpress.com/rons-journal-68-lrh-disconnection-is-canceled/
I was listening to some of this RJ 68 just for fun. It’s funny, because in this recorded message LRH says that he developed CLass 8 and it was promoted that it handled out tech and he says he is sorry that it came out that way. He said the tech is very standard and he didn’t want to invalidate anyone. Then YEARS later dm is saying all the tech is shit and everyone needs to redo it. Talk about contrary facts. LRH versus dm basically saying opposite things.
Welcome to the mind fuck.
Damn, you my bro too, you silly mofo
What was LRH’s Clear Number?
I’m Clear No 187 and Clear No 1,387,243
minus 10
New Scientology musical based on South Pacific entitled South Statistics. Some lyrics for your enjoyment:
There is nothin’ like a dave,
Nothin’ in the world,
There is nothin’ you can name
That is anything like a dave!
We feel restless, we feel blue,
We feel lonely, and in brief,
We feel ev’ry kind of feelin’,
But the feeling of relief
We feel hungry as the wolf felt
When he met Red Hiding-hood
What don’t we feel?
We don’t feel good!
Lots of things in life are terrible, but brother,
There is one particular thing that is nothin’ whatsoever
In any way, shape or form like any other.
There is nothin’ like a dave,
Nothin’ in the world,
There is nothin’ you can name
That is anything like a dave!
Nothin’ else is built the same,
Nothin’ in the world
As the cold steel chrome etched frame
Like the silhouette of a dave!
There is nothin’ like a dave,
Nothin’ in the world,
There is nothin’ you can name
That is anything like a dave!
This is a test. I’ve been having trouble posting.
You passed your test! Congrats! Now, donate, donate, donate, donate…
🙂
What’s your status now Aqua?
Mike’s article today makes it evident that “clearing the planet” was never really attainable. I think it is time for Scientology to come out of the “clear the planet” trance they have been in for 60 years. Auditors, clears and OT’s are made one at a time.
Auditors, clears and OT’s are being remade one at a time. Time and time again, just for the income it brings. Clearing the planet only briefly looked like it had hope thirty years ago. It has no hope now. Outsiders with money are not going to want to do The Bridge even if it were free. Their only future is to make their followers redo their Bridge and extract donations from them to give them the money to keep the show running. Only the whales are now left with money to extract. 2015 will be “the Year of the Whale” for the Scientology religion. Every year after that as well until the whales wise up and stop giving to a lost cause or run out of money themseves and go bankrupt, as so many of them do.
Dianetics and Scientology already lie on the rubbish heap of history as failed ideas.
I think this unattainability is built into the make-up of the church.
On the one hand, you have doing something (positive or therapeutic) for the guy in front of you using principles of ARC, etc., but also built into it is protecting the church as in Keeping Scientology Working. These can be two opposing concepts; hence, cognitive dissonance can easily come into play depending on which side of this coin is being played, But there didn’t need to be a cognitive dissonance if the church would have kept sight of helping the individual or “Act One” (the intention to help the guy in front of you). Period.
Somewhere along the line, there came a point where there was nowhere to turn WITHIN the church if one had a grievance or objection. Maye for some this was true right off the bat. I had grievances and objections many times and they seemed to get handled by a supervisor, cramming officer, C/S or by a Host or a Qual Sec or even an auditor. In my waning days, not even the auditor was “on my side.” When the church lost that, it lost everything good it had going for it. So “Clearing the Planet,” or “Putting Ethics In On The Planet” or just simply being a good self-help group lost all credibility.
I took Clear No 620072 off the bottom of the list. Otto Schweitzer started his OT Preps in 1993. Now he’s gone Clear again.
Otto Schweitzer HUBBARD LIFE ORIENTATION COURSE Source 76 1991-09-01
Otto R. Schweitzer L 11 NEW LIFE RUNDOWN Source 77 1991-11-01
Otto Schweitzer L 12 FLAG OT EXECUTIVE RUNDOWN Source 77 1991-11-01
Otto Schweitzer OT PREPARATIONS Source 85 1993-01-01
Otto Schweitzer PROSPERITY RUNDOWN Source 88 1993-08-01
Otto Schweitzer PROFESSION INTENSIVE Source 88 1993-08-01
Otto Schweitzer NEW HUBBARD SOLO AUDITOR COURSE PART 1 Source 89 1993-10-01
Otto Schweitzer NEW HUBBARD SOLO AUDITOR COURSE, PART TWO Source 90 1993-12-01
Otto Schweitzer HUBBARD PROFESSIONAL UPPER INDOC TRS COURSE Source 96 1995-05-01
Otto Schweitzer GRADE I EXPANDED Source 105 1997-03-01
Otto Schweitzer GRADE III EXPANDED Source 105 1997-03-01
Otto Schweitzer NED CASE COMPLETION Source 111 1997-11-01
Otto Schweitzer GRADE 0 EXPANDED Source 118 1998-08-01
Otto Schweitzer GRADE II EXPANDED Source 118 1998-08-01
Otto Schweitzer PERCEPTION OF TRUTH COURSE Freewinds 29 1998-09-01
Otto Schweitzer PERCEPTION OF TRUTH COURSE Freewinds 30 1998-12-01
Otto Schweitzer POWER PROCESSING (GRADE V) Source 120 1998-12-01
Otto Schweitzer POWER PLUS PROCESSING (GRADE VA) Source 120 1998-12-01
Otto Schweitzer TIME TRACK OF THETA Freewinds 52 2004-03-01
Otto Schweitzer FALSE PURPOSE RUNDOWN AUDITING Source 153 2004-04-01
Otto Schweitzer GRADE VI Source 159 2004-10-01
Otto Schweitzer Honor Roll of the IAS Impact 102 2002-12-01
Otto Schweitzer Honor Roll Impact 114 2006-09-01
Re clearing clears just to give them higher numbers doesn’t seem like a real stat to me.
Silly of me to think of such a thing as real numbers in the history of Scientology. Another false stat.
How many Clear numbers will this man have before his pocketbook is totally clear?
Renee Haroutunian was ot in 2009, now she is Clear. These poor people.
Renee Haroutunian OT DEBUG SERVICE Freewinds 77 2009-04-01
Renee Haroutunian SCIENTOLOGY: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT COURSE Freewinds 77 2009-04-01
Thanks – I was questioning this above. I know my 2D has gone clear at least twice but didn’t know if he had a new Clear number from GAT. I know he won’t be gettin a GAT II clear #. 🙂
I know 2 long term Class V org staff, one of whom has gone Clear 3 times, the other twice.
Yeah, my husband attested to Clear 4 times total. Even the CCRD given to him by a Class 12 was called bullshit and he did yet another one, his fourth, after that. Four times too many now we realize. Oh well!
Well Stephen, there’s cleaning a clean so it stands to reason there must be clearing a clear.
Acqua
May I suggest a slight change of words here. One only ‘GOES’ Clear once. However many people have ‘DONE’ Clear ATTESTS and then got ‘unattested’ and ‘reattested’ and that sucks a big one, courtesy of David Miscavidge’s blanket C/Sing and, far worse, Tech staff caving in to him. All it takes is some decent auditing, C/Sing and enough folder study and maybe a few more actions to reveal the truth of what it is. It is not difficult.
Greta
I totally agree Zephyr. With no inval or eval the state is not that hard to sort out. Invalidating it with these stupid, inspection before the fact, assembly line redos is a travesty.
“Re clearing clears just to give them higher numbers doesn’t seem like a real stat to me.”
Me neither but:
Falsifying stats is one thing but rehab tech abused like that is more than criminal.
Whether you believe in the workability of the tech or not miscavige and his ‘technical cronies’ sure have gone out of their way to screw up the case state of countless people. It’s pretty damn easy to invalidate the state of Clear anyway but to do it intentionally to others is a vicious crime. It seems pretty damn obvious no-one in the Cof$ knows what the state of Clear actually is nor do they care apparently – there’s money to acquire by any and every means possible.
Misunderstoods and Q&A are alive and well in the Cof$, let alone the sanity and case state of man who heads the supposed church – what a black little clinker of a soul that sick example of humanity has, His needle would be set in concrete at nothing less than 6.
+1 Messing with the state is truly ignorant and vicious.
Hey – he’s had multiple clearings! I mean … if it feels good to do it ONCE …
If I can remember in 1980 the Auditor of AOSHEU wrote about 52 000 clears. Now 63000 34 years later.
This makes about 324 Clears per year, about 7 per week worldwide…..
Well, then they are in screaming affluence because Flag alone does about 9 a week!
The Cof$ only accepts one type of cognition for any of their “services” or responses to advertising, and if it hasn’t got to do with handing over money it’s counter intention and off to the MAA with you if you’re a current member otherwise you’re labelled PTS/suppressive – pretty simple really.
Money is king, long live the king.
Unassailable logic= entheta.
Dave logic: I’m your savior, so change your behavior.
The only thing left in Scilontology is Squirrels and Nuts.
With a few major assholes thrown in for good measure.
Re nuts: pecan also spelled pecon which stands for person conned.
I think there were a couple of dickheads in there too.
You two, OSD and Cooper, are a pair. 🙂
Are you two conjoined?
What about numbers of Auditors?.
Fundraising is in a stall and soon enough a breaking point.
D.M. bought a villa in France when the C of S passed the tipping point
with a vacation get away in Croatia ( his real estate agent made him an offer he could not refuse)
What will happen soon is in the works, no turning back.
“What will happen soon…” Pain. I predict pain. 🙂
I couldn’t resist, Mike; it’s the line of the day.
Was it Mr. T who said “Yo about to have some pain yo foo……..”
Those promoting the cult are about to reap what they have sown …………… in spades. And I’m here to help! Watch for the next juicy morsel about my daughters wedding and her Aunt Lori.
Yo Julian,
You can end it now good buddy. You know what to do. But you will need to see if you ever grew a pair.
It will suck to be a Duggan after Jan 25th.
The new math:
A) people are coins
B) let each coin represent 1 dollar
C) RCS has approximately 1.5 billion coins
D) Earth population = 7 billion people
E) over 20% of planet cleared.
The single and only planetary accomplishment in 30 years is to firmly establish Scientology as a bunch of crazies with abusive, lying leaders.
They have done very well in that category.
Reminds me of something a not very bright shop-keeper said to my father many years ago. Keen to cut his prices to the bone in order to increase volume, he seriously asked: “I’m losing a penny each on these tins of beans. How many will I have to sell before I break even?” IT’LL NEVER HAPPEN you idiot! You’ll be going backwards!
Sad, sad and more sad. RCS = Foot in mouth disease. They cannot even do basic kindergarten maths – if the population is growing by 25,000 daily & they are planning to “Clear the planet” – in what millennia will this happen at the rate they’re going?
Regarding the Clears – lest we forget, just about every person that attested Clear from the 60’s/70’s/80’s and early 90’s were “undeclared” with the advent of GAT1. This included the majority of OTs who all had to return to the AOs for an “advanced program” (The PR euphemism for “not Clear”).
This action alone blew thousands of people off the bridge and out the doors for good. I reckon the numbering system is not even vaguely representative of the actual Clears in existence today.
Oops typo- meant 250,000 not 25,000………….
Boy, and I thought I was bad in doing math. These guys beat me big time. Maybe the only thing their leader can count is money and number of lies told and, that one indeed, he has 47X.
They are bad at math, but they excel at cognitive dissonance. It is a skill that is likely to be extremely valuable in future.
Out of curiosity – how many of those have had previous Clear certs cancelled due to the golden age of whateverthefuck? I’m honestly ignorant – when they go clear for the 2nd or 3rd time, do they keep their old clear number or get a new one? Because that’s another false stat right there if they’re getting renumbered.
Katness,
I never had mine cancelled (not that they didn’t want to) but since I ground it out the old fashioned way it was a tad more difficult. Did the Power and Power + at ASHO, then the CC at AOLA. Read all the good stuff and believed it. Added in what I needed to to make OT III real since I had questioned whether the Hawaiian volcanoes even existed 75 million years ago. I decided that modern geology was wog bunko and that LRH must have known!
Whew, what a ride. The truth about my experience with $cientology has actually been better that anything I ever experienced while taking my daily dose of kool aide …….albeit a tad more painful. BUT ……THE FRICKIN FAT LADY HAS NOT YET SUNG ………….
YO DAVE,
BRING IT GOOD BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!! (add exclamation points as needed) AND DAMN YOUR PISSY TORPEDOES. FWIW ……………..THEY ARE ALL DUDS and if they have a face they are dunces.
And tell my daughter Haley hi for me. I understand she recently married a Russian fellow and is on tour somewhere trying to save your dying cult. Good luck with that ……….. reminds me of taking a long piss into a high wind!
End of rant …… back to regular programming~
Personally, I think your rants are great!
Katniss, I think they are double (or maybe even triple) counting Clears. Every time someone attests to Clear I think it gets counted – again – in a “new unit of time.” 🙂
Then, of course, I failed to mention, that probably about 90% of those are G-O-N-E.
But WE are still part of their stats.
Look at Valerie’s comment below. I totally called it……
If you sat down with a pencil and paper for two minutes and bothered yourself enough to add two plus two, you should then realize it will not work.
These remaining people do not want to know. They either are, making money off this scam(Cardones, etc), will lose reputation if they leave(Celebrities), born in it(friends and family will disconnect), SO(have no where to go and feel they cannot make it in real world), to far ins(have invested so much money it would be humiliating to leave), the anti-establishment people (who just think everything that happens is a conspiracy), weak minded(looking for a place to rest their weary head), and a few mentally challenged folks.
This is your 2015 Scion Line Up.
Yeah, Oy with the “Planetary Dissemination” already.
But you know it just occurred to me (i.e. “I just had a cognition!!!”) that Scientology has already achieved planetary dissemination. I’d bet that if you went to any mall or market in the world and asked random passersby these three questions,
Have you ever heard of Scientology?
Have you ever heard of Dianetics?
Have you ever heard of L. Ron Hubbard?
they would run away from you screaming, and probably on the first question.
I’d guess that a majority of people, at least in the First World, have heard of it. Planetary Dissemination achieved.
Unfortunately for the Planetary Dissemination Unit, such widespread name recognition makes it impossible for Scientology to do anything but fail because the brand is so hopelessly toxic.
Yo, Miscavige: Better call Superfund.
Geeze, The Auditor is putting out some real warm and fuzzies as though the Cult really cares about weddings, families, kids and all of that sort of nonsense.
I’d say Mr. and Mrs. Crausaz should check for signs of drool from the SO regges over their son Cyrian. It will be nigh on soon that they will come calling for him. Step one will be to get him to arrive at the Freakwinds for teenage week where they will flow praise and goodness. Step two will be to slide the colorful contract across the table while gushing about Cyrians natural OTness. And then ………………………
To Mr. and Mrs. Crausaz:
Constant vigilance to the above is advised. It happened to me and the kids are gone, family is trashed and of course the why is …………..yes…………….drum roll please………..that bastard SP who found us out!
The number on the label of the cert with my name on it is 6022, attested on April 24th 1977 and signed by Pat Silverman and Bob Pinkos.
Yo OSA, Flag MAAs (special notice to Alphonso and Jasmin), Freakwinds MAAs (special notice to Samantha), Julian Schwartz and other stellar Cee Ogre OTs:
Congratulations on finally figuring out I am a Suppressive Person! Good-on-ya for getting it done by February 17th, 2013. It only took you 3.6 decades but was probably because most of you were not even born when I went clear. Anyway, I suggest you write up some KRs on your loser grey haired parents and seniors who were not able to spot a flaming SP for 36 years.
Yo Julian,
I only heard through the rumor line that I had been declared and according to your policy I thought you guys were going to let me know in some form of written communication. Please send me a letter or something about your excellent determination. You can mail it to 18161 Zeni Lane, Tuolumne, CA 95379. I’m right down the street from Rod and Lori Daniells house who live at 18181 Zeni Lane. If necessary call me, Dave has my number.
BTW, I still get some TWTH mail and extension course postcards from Sac Morgue so I know you have my correct address. Please tell your cohorts to remove me from your mailing list and I’ll look forward to receiving some written communication about my recent declare, if I have actually been declared, you get the idea!
One more thing Julian, watch for the new documentary on Scientology coming out on the 25th. Should be a real barn burner ……… if you get my drift.
Coop, I read “nigh on soon” to say “high noon” Same diff actually.
Outstanding post, pal!
Loved your comment in the interview on Tony’s blog this morning. Great line from Muhammed Ali.
Me too!
That was from Rocky III, which is even better.