Every scientologist has done the PTS/SP Course. Most good scientologists have done the course more than once and have been sent to retread it when they are deemed to have become “PTS” again — in itself pretty good evidence the course does not work. But then again, this is one of the most often used explanations as to why the “tech didn’t work” — “you cannot make/lose your gains if you are PTS.”
And even though the graduate of this course has “mastered the tech” of how to handle suppression and SPs, they do not then get to choose who they may or may not be connected to — they are told by the church. In fact, they are completely at the mercy of Suppressive Persons – the most powerful OT’s, the highest trained auditors, the ultimate causative beings in this universe apparently melt in the presence of SPs.
It makes one wonder how they reconcile this quote they send around?
This concept is one of those things in scientology I agree with. At least the first two paragraphs.
And I see it being played out in the world of scientology — with the Merchants of Chaos increasingly becoming scientology’s master. Scientologists, especially Miscavige and the official church “spokespeople” cannot confront appearing in the media. Scientologists literally turn away and cross the street at the sight of an SP. They shut down their buildings and keep everyone inside if there is someone on the sidewalk with a sign. Scientologists are scared to read “entheta” on the internet or in the media.
The truth is, scientology continues to shrivel into an ever-smaller bubble, fearing the outside world while proclaiming they are the “only ones” who can solve man’s problems. What a paradox.
Great post Mike! A great example of MUST BUT CANT.
Maybe the primary reason most scientologists are unable to confront internal immoral, criminal, deceptive acts is due to the fact that Hubbard was regularly involved in all of the above! Once again, MUST BUT CANT.
To be a successful scientologist requires regular self-deception. One wasn’t allowed to confront lrh’s “out ethics”. Those who did were swiftly disposed of without hesitation or sorrow. DM follows the playbook, and then some.
It follows then that when a person attempts to expose a scientologist to factual data critical of lrh, dm, scientology, the unwillingness to evaluate that data remains consistent. The skill of willful ignorance is routinely practiced and eventually mastered by scientologists. A scientologist in turn then learns selective confront, thereby deluding themselves into the notion of confronting all evil. We confront psychiatry, therefore we confront all “supression”.
In actual fact, the average person communicating the truth about scientologys frauds, crimes, abuses have greater ability to confront so-called suppression than members of the group who pretend to have a monopoly on the subject.
Wait — do they realize that picture they use to illustrate “shatter” is actually a picture of the form of hashish that is sold under that name? Shatter is a hard, translucent form of hash that is sold in most medical and recreational MJ shops. They may have manipulated the phot to make it look like a face, but frankly it looks like the kind of thing a stoner would do and then post on the Internet, so they probably just found it in the public domain and used it. If you search the term “shatter” in Google images you will see lots of pictures of the same fractured, amber colored stuff. (You’ll also see all kinds of hysterical stories about a “potent new drug”, but it is just a processed form of hash.) Quite strange to see it used by the cult in a course flyer, I must say.
Wow Scientology does it Again! Thank you C Velvet Don’t you just love the way the cult promotes their courses.Juxtapositioning indeed! ❤️
Of course, in COB’s personal manual, PTS / SP stands for: Practical Tax Strategy / Sue People
And for the rest it eventually means: Post Traumatic Stress & Social Phobias
“Confront and shatter suppression”? What a hoot. The Still-Ins are permitted NO communication with someone not completely in sync with Miscavige’s playbook. Forget confronting, they’re scared to even look! Such a joke. This is grist for Regraded Being’s satiric mill.
I have not become “enlightened” enough yet to blame all of the problems on LRH. Of course no one is perfect , except DM of course. Certainly if the organization had started out as fucked up as it is now it would have gone nowhere from the start.
The chiro that the ship sent me to for treatment of advanced AIDS told me not to take the medical drugs as they would kill me faster than HIV. So I didn’t take them until it was obvious that death was imminent and since I had developed dementia it was up to my wife to choose my treatment. After the standard medical treatment the virus became undetectable in 6 weeks.
I TOOK THE TEST RESULTS BACK TO THE SAME CHIRO AND HE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN I WAS STOPPING THIS “DEADLY” TREATMENT. I TOLD HIM THAT I WOULD STOP IT IF AND WHEN I CHOSE TO DIE.
I’m curious to know who was that Scn Chiro? I bet I know him/her.
His name is James M Keppler. He has an office on Freeport Blvd in Sacramento Ca. He knew LRH, possibly was involved in the Body Comm Process research. He had been recruited for the ship. After I told him of my experience i.e. not being allowed to see my family for 7 years he said that he was going to make the recruiter put in writing that he would get his LOAs. I told him that there were FOs by LRH about it and since they refuse to follow LRH, why would they follow something by a recruiter. HE ALSO KNEW THAT MY WIFE WAS BEING HELD PRISONER AT THE TIME WHILE THEY WAITED FOR ME TO DIE. I thing that that disabused him of any idea of joining the SO.
Didn’t Dr Kepler have a Japanese wife named Kumi or some similar sounding name?
Also, Bill, I have commented before on your horrible treatment, but just want to say that you and your wife were treated worse than prisoners of war. I am so glad you both made it out and you have your health now. That’s a great way to make them wrong: to survive and flourish and prosper, which you are doing! Way to go!
Thank you Cindy. Yes, it is the same person. His wife’s name is Kifumi if I remember correctly, which I probably do.
They have this great ‘tech”, and policy but then it appears that they don”t really want you to use it. If you take LRH at his word, ( and I realize that many don’t) this makes it clear why the church is contracting. LRH says in policy that orgs that don’t quite agree with him fail and that people stay away in droves. He also says when a person is ill you take him to a doctor. Yet when it was determined that I had AIDS from a blood transfusion in the Freewinds home port I was taken away from a doctor ( Dr Denk) and sent to a non medical chiro who told me that he had never seen anyone with AIDS.
LRH tech has saved my life several times. I SHOULD OWE HIM MY LIFE. I certaintly don’t owe anything to the organization. Those cockaroaches (actually only a few of them did their best to put me in a grave. There is probably enough evidence to prove it in court but it is too late because the statue of limitations has expired. Why did it expire? Because I was too fucking loyal for my own good.
Yet I am the SP simply because I stated the obvious facts of the matter and they are the most ethical beings on the planet.
What a story Dead Man Tell No Lies. Thank you for revealing this. I’m sure you have a lot to say. Thank you for doing it.
Thank you for your good ack. YES, I have a lot to say. This is only about a tenth of it. I spent over half of my life inthe SO I personally repaired every single piece of equipment in the Freewinds engine room. It was bad enough getting AIDS, but it was far worse having my wife held prisone0r and not knowing if I would ever see her again. THEY FULLY INTENDED TO HOLD HER AGAINST HER WILL UNTIL I WAS DEAD, hoping that after I was dead she would change her mind about wanting to leave. They were not even going to allow her off to go to my funeral. They obstructed attempts with IJCs office to find out what was going on. Someday I would like to go back to see them freak out when they see me alive, just as my last auditor did when she saw me at AOLA a few years later. I do not want revenge. I would like justice but I think that there is fat chance of that. The odds of my surviving were hundreds to one against.
IN HINDSIGHT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY:
I should have called my wife’s father He is the highest ranking black officer in the United States Coast Guard. HE WOULD HAVE PICKED UP A PHONE AND A US COAST GUARD CUTTER WOULD HAVE BOARDED THE FREEWINDS AND GOTTEN MY WIFE. I could have called the media. IT IS A VIOLATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAW. TO DISMISS ANYONE FROM EMPLOYMENT DUE TO HIV/AIDS. THEY COULD HAVE LOST THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS.
So why did I not do it? Was I worried about being declared?
IN ALL MY YEARS ON STAFF, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DECLARE ORDER ON A DEAD MAN. I HAVE SEEN MANY DEAD PEOPLE GIVEN LOAS AND TOLD TO REPORT BACK FOR DUTY.
It wasn’t all about me. My wife was being abused and others are likely being abused.
I WILL END THIS RANT WITH THE SAME WORDS AS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU MR RINDER FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO BRING THESE OUTNESS (OR MORE ACCURATELY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY) TO LIGHT
I SIGNED A BILLION YEAR CONTRACT TO CLEAR THE PLANET. BUT ONE HAS TO GET IN ETHICS BEFORE ONE CAN GET IN TECH. I WOULD BE PROUD TO SPEND WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS LIFE GETTING IN ETHICS ON THE CHURCH. I FEEL THAT I OWE LRH THAT MUCH.
Bill, you have been through more blood sweat and tears than you both should have had to endure.Thank you from my heart for telling your story.To me you forge another gigantic link in this chain of all of us XSO X staff X public all of us are blasting light at the difference between what the cult says and what it does.By sharing yout horrific treatment with us,when I tell details of my treatment in SO prior to my blowing in 78,your powerful experience adds great weight to all our stories.Iwish you light,love and peace.As to getting Ethics In I’ve got a list somewhere of those who need a good re-tread of what they did to others regarding that area.❤️
Dear Ann Thank you for your comment. Yes, it was horrific. After it happened I wrote a letter to ED INT and also a KR to RTC REPORTS OFFICER, not realizing that RTC is mostly the one responsible for this outness. I never received a reply from either one though Guilliame Leserve may have been in the hole by then. I used to drive past the Int Base in Hemet to see if anyone needed a ride. I never saw anyone. The place might as well been a cemetary and perhaps it was. I knew several hundred staff in the SO and I feel a little bad about being free knowing that they are still stuck there.You are obviously stronger than I was because you managed to blow. I would have stayed and died there had I not been liberated by AIDS.
Hi Bill,You are just as strong as I because you are here and you are so powerful telling your story.I left behind some very very dear friends in the SO,but my life was on the line.I totally emphasize with your getting AIDS,in that I fight two cancers brought on by many combinations of SO living.No sleep,bad food meaning spoiled and then fun and games with GO Intelligence.No Bill you and yours join my heroes list.❤️❤️
Dear Ann,
Regarding your leaving your friends behind in the SO, I was informed by thr WUS Security Clearance I/ C OSA that.
” EX SEA ORG MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS”. I was in good standing when I was told this. IT WAS A BLANKET STATMENT THAT NOONE WHO USED TO BE IN THE SO HAD ANY FRIENDS ANYWHERE. I was shocked to hear such a thing.
Isn’t The Cult just absolutely adorable?!Miss Ann says with a wink and a finger.Thank you for sharing that tidbit and I can immediately picture the stare-glare Tone 40 + that went along with the commandment that SOers have no friends when they leave.If that line were not so true it would make a great comedy routine,but I am not ready to laugh yet at the lecture you were given.The reason?I am sure the cult still pulls this junk to this very day.❤️❤️
Great, great post.
“Yet I am the SP simply because I stated the obvious facts of the matter and they are the ethical beings on the planet.”
That’s how the Church of Scientology rolls. Blows your mind, doesn’t it? I’ve been out for more than 5 years and it still blows my mind.
Someone dear to me had a favorite, satirical comment when encountering this sort of thing: “Don’t confuse me with the facts! My mind is made up!”
Hopefully their is quite a number of people here who has done the PTS/SP course and know to shatter suppression.
And look who is shattering…
Yes!
And if you fall and have an accident, what do you do? That’s right. you start looking for a target. After all, it’s not because you weren’t looking where you were going, it’s because there is an unseen person that is causing you to fail. Talk about a witch hunt.
Scio think – “sad is good, good is sad.” Rhymes with betrayal in their vernacular.
I’ve never found anything a Scientologist can be trusted with, nothing. The PTS SP tech is probably the ultimate prime example of gross, over the top idiocy. It does unbelievable harm for the weak of mind to contemplate or be forced to use it. Scientology would be a lot better off without it. A razor blade is a useful item, but not in the hands of a child or someone of deficient intellect to know what it is and so it is with the mindset of Scientologists – they become incredibly stupid with anything they are instructed to learn.
Hubbard gave some interesting ways to look at things imo, most people who write for a living do at some point, no real biggie but as a group Scientologists are easily influenced by anything that floats their way. They are scared to death of entheta yet suck it up from management like there’s no tomorrow.
It’s all full circle now, who’s the namby pamby bunch of panty wasted dilettantes now?
Creating a personification of evil and then slapping that label on members of your flock (who after all are composed of the upper tenth of one percent!)………… is …………madness.
We observe that the tech to “shatter suppression” is a failure. Instead, it:
shatters courage and replaces it with fear
shatters intelligence and replaces it with $cientology group-think
statters decency as $cientologists believe that evil, criminal acts committed against the critics of $cientology are somehow for the “greater good”
Finally, $cientology itself has shattered; only blind obedience to groupthink prevents members from seeing this.
Thank you.Your comment makes alot of good points.❤️
Really good comment.
if anyone here studied the class 8 lectures, he would maybe remember one tape where LRH tell a story about a monk called “Father Guissepe”. Everybody agree that he is a saint, but someone receiving a kind of PTS handling has the item Father Guissepe, with BD FN !
In which case the item cannot be accepted by the community, then they stay PTS and it appears that this tech doesnt work.
Well just LRH say about situation the SP is rejected (and this is part of L4BRB to repair errors in listing). This obviously is applying to Miscavige. He is SP to the ground of his ass, but cannot be indicated on a PTS handling. So PC stays PTS.
I was quite somme many years ago on the Freewind. There was an MAA, Paddy, to me he was like a sort of captain Blight. At this time they thought all OTVIII were PTS (which was quite true!) And this little fascist was in charge to handle them. Sec check, conditions and all, and wrong items ! Truth was upside down.
On a PTS handling I quoted him as item (with BD FN). Auditor was shocked. Blasphemy. They knew I was an ennemy! Gott that was hard to get out of their damn ship!
So PTS tech is not working because correct items are not accepted. The SPs have to protect themself. They are “Father Guissepe item”.
About 40 years ago, I had a PTS handling which changed my life for the better. The right item was found and I felt I could reach again, and my life started to fly.
This tech works for me. But under Miscavige it is a misery.
Good point, FG. Miscavige is never accepted as an item. There’s an arbitrary inserted in that rundown. Wow. Glad you had a life changing PTS handling 40 years ago, FG. I’m happy for you.
It was a “10 august 73”. The item popped up to the question Who was it? A name unknown in this lifetime. I just spitted it. The auditor indicate it. I felt like little piquing all over my body, like being release of incredible weight. The auditor simply said “Your needle is floating” and ended the session.
It was in St Hill England. When I went outside, the sky was like huge… Like LRH says somewhere, a blanket was taken off me. The world was mine. I was in love of a woman but couldn’t reach her. She called me and all started…
What I have observed an all flows is that tech correctly applied is making miracle. But tech compromised generates illness and misery.
The PTS/SP mindset reminds me of one of the best episodes of the Twilight Zone. “The Monsters are Due on Maple Street” was an allegory tale of the “red scare” of the Fifties. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street)
The neighborhood residents eventually turn on each other in a paranoid attempt to expose who among them is the monster. Those of you who remember the episode might also remember the ironic ending.
Thanks for this post, Mike. Your masterful deconstruction of logical fallacies in the C of S continues to amaze me.
Your conclusion also proves that the “third-party” mechanism is not necessarily bad. Forming triangulations against the validity of the existence of an entity such as the Church of Scientology is actually a “pro-survival” activity.
I really appreciate your courage and perseverance in helping us to “wake up and smell the coffee.”
The PTS/SP Course….or…. How To Destroy Our Cult From Within Course….
Disconnection Policies are creating more enemies of the cult than any good SP could ever do – sorry Mike – they are doing a much better job than you. Every person that asks me about my son, hears all about SCN and disconnection. Now instead of just one family despising the cult, hundreds more can also wish for its demise, and they tell their friends and on and on. I went 35 years hiding my past involvement of SCN (embarrassment) – now I tell everyone how they destroy families.
Now that’s a classic description, “How To Destroy Our Cult From Within Course.”
Spot on CPO.
Thanks CPO. Your math equation is something I hardly ever hear discussed. But you are exactly right. The COS treats each perceived enemy as if they were a single statistic with no connection to, or influence on the rest of the human population. Every time the COS declares someone, or issues a disconnect order, the people who despise them increases by geometric proportion. As you demonstrated, it’s not difficult to calculate. Someone in Qual better get their staff’s math ruds in. Of course there’s a good possibility that COS antagonism towards their detractors has already created a nuclear chain reaction. Kaboom.
“An individual who cannot communicate with something will become the victim of that something.”
Well, I guess all Sea Org members are victims of the internet. How sad.
Yes…how very, very sad. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry….
Scio think = “sad is good, good is sad.” Rhymes with betrayal in their vernacular.
“The Church of Scientology, often imitated, seldom duplicated” 🙂
Probably the most damaging omission from PTS-SP “tech” was the deliberate failure to identify the most common type of suppressive person in Scientology.
I deem it a deliberate failure because it served Hubbard’s personal interests to keep this type of SP confused with other types.
This omission in the tech has led to a confusion, over and over, for years, in the minds of graduates of the PTS/SP course.
You hear this confusion voiced in statements such as, “David Mayo worked with Ron very closely for decades, how come it took so long to spot him?”
This most common type of SP that was not named by Hubbard is The Dissident SP.
On one hand, Hubbard crafted a very though technical description of an SP–a person who did not benefit from receiving Scientology auditing (the “no-case-gain”) and who behaved destructively towards others, as described in the 12 characteristics of anti-social personalities.
This technical description of an SP is what most scientologists think of when you say “Suppressive Person”, and indeed, makes scientologists in general not want to associate with such people.
Yet at least the majority of people declared SP by the church were not done so after an exhaustive study of their auditing history or anything like that.
No, they were declared SP because they started making trouble for Hubbard or the church, and nearly all of that trouble has, at its core, a disagreement in one form or another.
As Hubbard became more entrenched in the mindset of his own rightness over all others, the SP declare become his go-to method of showing these dissidents the highway. If you disagreed too often, or too strenuously, see ya later.
But Hubbard also understood that he needed all the technical window dressing of what an SP was, in order to obscure and confuse the minds of the average scientologist when one of their pals got declared.
He painted all people he didn’t like with the same brush, whether they were a truly toxic personality that most people today know as “sociopaths”, or just those people who were calling him out on his bullshit in one way or another.
hear hear.
Brilliant. The flaw is so obvious its missed.
The earlier unedited “About Rhodesia” lecture from Hubbard, when he first returned in the late summer or early autumn of 1966, Hubbard flip-flopped AWAY from the Heavy Ethics declaring everyone “SP” and he commented in that lecture, that almost NO one ever was an SP that had come onto Saint Hill’s lines and certainly all the staff and others being declared “SP” at that exact time of Hubbard’s returning in that latter part of 1966, no one was really “SP.”
That flip flop shows something about Hubbard. Which is that he COULD flip flop, even if momentarily, since although there was a second go-round of Heavy Ethics especially the Sea Org Heavy Ethics just went on non-stop until again around 1970ish, he flip flopped to “Hat Don’t Hit” and various staff enhancement ideas, Word Clearing, Case Supervising details of the Class 8 traininng that developed into the C/S Series, etc, there is so much MORE budding packaged sub sections/subjects of “tech” that Hubbard was blossoming in the early 1970s, that “SP” declaring took a much watering down.
That whole pattern repeated in the late 1970s, 1978 when you read the two long issues on PTSness and the other attendant issues on PTSness of the late 1970s, it was apparant to me, in the OEC/FEBC Course Room at Flag at that time, that Hubbard was stressing “handle” one’s “PTS” connections.
That late 1978 PTS training is what I as a SCientologist took mainly to heart. I knew that “good roads and good weather” as is given the premiere example in “Problems of Work” with the young woman typist who wishes to be a Scientologist and the parents wished her to be the concert pianist and thus were raging to get her out of Scientology, and the PTS (pre-official SP/PTS tech) was “good roads and good weather” handling.
I used “good roads and good weather” as my total career for myself and for my “twins” in Scientology when I had to deal with “PTS” and supposedly “far gone” SP family connections.
This whole Hubbard “tech” of PTSness is just a superficial look at human frailties though, so today, I think just detailed reading broadly, “reasonably”, is what undoes any simplistic misunderstandings, including the spotting of sociopaths. Just more details of a person’s life and how they interact, the effects of their behaviors, tells the tale, and that all of the other major psychological and sociological and educational factors are what impact a sociopath or the minority really “bad” egg people in life.
Anyways, there is no question that sociologists or psychologists and others who professionally study in fully depth the really “bad” eggs in humanity, have a better grip on what Hubbard unprofessionally packaged up in Hubbard’s style into “SPs” and “PTSes”.
But all the same, Hubbard’s unprofessional and factual flip-flopping on his own “tech” rules for handling SPs and PTSes does allow “handling.”
I think, from my limited understanding of life, that the “good roads and fair weather” handling is workable to outstep the SP craziness fads of Scientology.
The UN Declaration of Human Rights has a leeway of tolerance, use that, I tell or told the people who were facing SP declaring when people wished to blow up on Scientology, instead of just brute barging in with police asking for their kidnapped under-age family members that Scientology had hijacked.
Our problem is our laws, like the one about coming of legal age allowing one to then go getting lost in a cult that is harmful, well, our world allows laws and limits on coercing people one way or the other.
Laws that favor cult, really then, it comes down to discussions on blogs, thankfully we have internet forums to discuss issues like this extremist rules system of unprofessional “religious” spiritual guru man L. Ron Hubbard, whose ideas frankly simplistically are used to coerce money out of the Scientologists over and over in today’s ongoing Scientology history.
Stay out, is what ex members ought keep repeating, of official Scientology.
If people wish to learn about their supposed “past lives” and their “past lives engrams” then freezone Scientology, and even the no longer published “Dianetics Today” of 1975 has some LRH Case Supervision directions to the example past life engram sessions that the “Dianetics Today” of 1975 book which are unique archival material all their own!!!
People can buy “Have You Lived Before This Life” on amazon for pennies.
Also “History of Man.”
For the Xenu engram story, there’s South Park’s episode on Tom Cruise.
For actual Scientology “body thetan” exorcism, just look up the freezone Scientology practitioners and get some “body thetan” exorcism to your heart’s content.
The escape from Scientology’s “SP” doctrines, would be to go seek the freezone Scientology, and just be UN Declaration of Human RIghts adhererer and tell the official Scientologists you are seeking out the splinter Scientology because the freezone Scientologists do NOT rip up their lives and gouge their bank accounts, and go out and do the past live engram hunting and Xenu engram handling exorcism on OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 out in the freezone.
What would be a new development, would be for some official current Scientologist to wrap their heads fully around the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the religious choice right, and use that doctrine to switch to the freezone Scientology practice and ask that official Scientology cease trying to penalize them for their religious choice of choosing a “new” new religion, LOL.
The freezone needs to do up some smarter UN Human Rights stressing advertisements, near official Scientology orgs!
Example AD, were I in the Freezone Scientology Marketing Department:
a) Place the following ad around Scientology churches, worldwide
b” “Freezone Scientology Is UN Declaration of Human Rights supported! You have the religious Human Right to choose Freezone Scientology. Report any human rights violations you receivefrom official Scientology to the UN today! Try the freezone!”
Chuck I think you’re on to something. I want my kids and friends back and if they chose the freezone well that’s their choice and I never was one to argue with others rights. This would be better all around even if it only handles disconnection. I had to think about that for a bit because personally I think the reactive mind etc. crap is a disconnection of sorts too (from self and self responsibility) but that’s just my right to believe as I see fit. Great idea. I hope you’ll pass this on to M2 or whatever and ill be one to fully support then on this no matter my views. These in persons have alowed their rights to be stolen.
I suspect that LRH may have used contradictory advice and orders by design.
The effect of having so many opposing statements and rules is to confuse a Scientologist and keep him feeling a bit guilty and off-balance (whilst at the same he is half-buying the notion that he is part of the elite of planet earth).
You can easily shatter suppressives by using this tech; ahh, but you definitely mustn’t communicate with suppressives or we’ll expel you.
Yes, Clears definitely get all the attributes delineated in DMSMH; ahh, but read the grade chart again, you’re actually only attesting to this single sentence about the reactive mind, nothing else.
Since I realized that the confusions may have been put there as a deliberate control technique, it’s interesting how often I realize how often a rule or idea in Scientology will either mess a person up if they take it literally, or is contradicted by another idea.
I’m actually glad I did Scientology all those years ago. It was helpful to me. But it has been equally, or more, helpful to realize in the years since, how messed up it all was, and how it is so nice not to have to do it any more.
“You can easily shatter suppressives by using this tech; ahh, but you definitely mustn’t communicate with suppressives or we’ll expel you.”
Yes! How these two policies contradict one another! If, with the tech, suppression can be confronted and shattered, always, then, if the idea is to expand Scientology, why disconnect from ANYone?
On the other hand, we each of us have the right to communicate or not with someone, on our OWN determinism, so I suppose it would depend upon the essential purpose of the communication.
The SP/PTS “tech” actually gives power to other people (SPs) and takes away the power from the person who agrees with it.
The source of this information comes from Ron’s persecution and paranoid tendencies.
It is the personal creation of an absolute evil that is granted to the SP.
This self created, church sanctioned, word cleared and demoed SP is given the magical power of stealing knowledge. Stealing wins and one’s sense of well being.
The SP/PTS “tech” is one of the most disempowering doctrines in Scientology.
It is a doctrine that justifies victimhood; the polar opposite of being cause – and one of the implanted sources of the Scientologist’s cognitive dissonance; “I am a big powerful being but you are more powerful and can steal my knowledge.
This doctrine comes from Ron’s psychological fear and paranoia. It becomes the Scientologist’s mind set through study and group bonding and agreement.
There is a sense of intimacy and closeness that people feel when they share the same enemy.
The enemy, in Scientology, is one of the glues that holds the game together.
Fighting the SP gives purpose and a false sense of personal worth and value.
Ron’s real enemy was never found; himself, and the subconscious impressions that informed the stories of demons he so creatively and convincingly put into writing.
Ron’s mental state, being the source of Scientology, is the puzzle to unravel. That is the only real puzzle that holds it together.
The outcome of this thing called Scientology, the fragmentation of the organization, the polarizing of the field of exes, Indies and fundamentalists is sourced in the writings of Ron.
Ron was at war with absolute demons. The state of Exes, Indies and fundamentalists mirror that mindset. The infighting amongst exes and indies is evidence that Ron’s doctrines still affect their cognitive faculties and world views.
The linchpin that holds this fragmentation together is Ron’s psychological need to fight absolute demons and be the cosmic hero in his Sci Fi books.
It’s interesting that this group of people, on various websites are always warring with others from other websites. Not this one though. Thanks Mike.
The study “tech” is the delivery system for all of this fighting bad guy nonsense.
Very cool comment Brian, thanks. And yes; thanks Mike for the very civil website.
I have a question you possibly can answer Brian. I’m currently reading a book on Tibetan Buddhism and the author validates other philosophies and paths. He doesn’t mention Scientology. Do you know how Buddhist masters(eg. Dalai Lama) view Scientology and Hubbard?
Ron was a temporary teacher, one who was still influenced by and conditioned by his mental modifications; anger, greed, lust for power and body identification.
And since nothing is absolutely one sided, Ron did inspire a generation of truth seekers as well as ensnare people in falsehoods.
He was not a liberated spiritual master, thus was not qualified to truly free others.
And in that regard Scientology is not a valid path to Total Freedom, even though it promoted it.
Scientology is rather a metaphysical Fruedian Therapy. It deals in linear time. It also has imagination and delusional doctrines that add a burden to truth seekers.
I do not know of any valid teacher that sees Scientology as a safe and valid path to truth.
It can bring a being to some basic realizations of our spiritual natures, but it is more of a belief system than a procedural practice sanctioned by true Adepts of the Spirit.
Ron was part metaphysician, fraud, genius and seeker. He was not liberated and thus not qualified to be called a valid path to enlightenment.
My assumption is that valid teachers would warn people to stay away from Scientology.
It’s dangerous.
So good to see your comments Brian.Mike has always been himself as I see it and I think he is such a incisive writer as well.Plus just plain a good ,kind person.This site has always been good to and for me.It is difficult when one gets caught in the crossfire of warring whatevers. ❤️❤️?? to you two.
Hi Ann! Nice to see you.
Yes, I agree, there is a kindness to Mike.
Hi Brian, I find myself reaching for the book you recommended.Autobiography of a Yogi.It helps with rough spots,seas,comments whatever gets thrown at me.❤️??☄
Same with me. The book is more of a portal than a book. George Harrison kept stacks of them around to hand our to people who “needed a spiritual tune up” as he said.
I gave a copy to my friend Alan Myers the drummer for Devo. He became a tabla player for temple services and student of Yogananda.
Anyone here interested in expanding knowledge beyond Scientology should read it.
It was voted by an organization of publishers as one of 100 most important books on spirituality in the 20th century.
I do not talk too much about Yoganada, my teacher, because I am all too weary of the downside of pushing yet another cult onto people.
Instead I use the example of Buddha or other teachers. The beauty of eastern thought is I see all liberated masters as the same.
They have all seen the same truth, so it does not matter who is telling it.
What a far cry from the drivel of Ron is the only OT, the only free being, the only one to find the truth, the “best” friend of mankind, the only one to find OT3, the only one to find a workable mental technology.
The truth is an open source. No one has a monopoly on it. Yet Ron said this but he never the less created a monopoly.
Read Autobiography of a Yogi if you are still on the path to truth and liberation.
It will inspire you to your own path. It will clearly annotate the goals and procedures to be free from the body prison; mortality.
But Yogananda’s attainment is universal. I know many people who read this book yet found another path, not Yogananda’s as a result of reading it.
But if you still think Ron was enlightened, you will think the book is all about electronic implants.
To the sages, saints and adepts the inner light is power, bliss, freedom, self knowledge, liberation and the presence of the Supreme Being; Spiritual freedom
To L Ron Hubbard, the inner light is a Martian Implant.
That which we are, the spirit, was defined by Ron as a dangerous electronic torture.
To Ron, spiritual freedom meant control of people and things with our will.
To Ron, spiritual freedom meant flying around the universe out of the body with full perception.
That which truly frees us is the inner perception of our true nature.
That nature was not known by Ron.
The afterlife for Ron was not one of beauty and rest from a hard world.
Ron’s afterlife was filled with demon mind controllers who’s purpose was to enslave.
What he revealed with this is that these were the content of his mind.
L Ron Hubbard booby trapped our reach to other sources of spiritual refuge in the most insidious way.
He equated the spiritual light of spirit with being in an electronic torture chamber. Something to avoid, something to be afraid of.
That one action makes for some bad ass karma.
To those interested:
https://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-Yogi-Paramahansa-Yogananda/dp/0876120834/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
Thank you Brian for the in depth answer.
“Ron’s mental state, being the source of Scientology, is the puzzle to unravel. That is the only real puzzle that holds it together.”
Indeed. Ron is the enigma. The mystery sandwich. WTF were his real motivations?
I can now read or listen to him with the same critical faculties I can look at anyone else. And he can’t consistently stand up to it. Whereas for at least my first 25 years the only outpoints in his writings or lectures that I could detect were very minor and amounted to about 2 things (one was a statement on a study tape where he suggests that color photography is “better” than black and white, really big stuff!). Today I can barely get through a single page without seeing all kinds of arbitrary assumptions or other kinds of outpoints.
Yet there are also sparks of pure brilliance such as the comm formula and component parts of communication each of which can be perverted and each of which can theoretically be unperverted.
I currently see my experience as having been an adventure. I made a lot of friends I wouldn’t have otherwise made. I felt I was a part of a big game that had a worthwhile purpose. Well there was noting wrong with OUR purposes but for the fact they had been hijacked. The camaraderie was genuine and many of us might not have had such experiences had it not been for Scn. But the mindfuck that goes along with it…
Beautifully said Interested Party. Scientology would have had some breath of a chance regarding some of the tech at one time.I got some good from The Sea Org,in that I had a huge purpose in life and intention I did not have before.Years and years out I really see that my purpose and intension did not belong to me,I gave them to Ron.So while in I was a puppet of his cult.Years out I see my own intension & purpose is so much freer because it is mine.It is the Mindfuck that sent the Bridge into twisted oblivion where dm plans to keep it as he constructs his bridge monument,Shudder! ❤️❤️
Mike, remember, the PTS SP course is Dave Miscavige’s baby through and through. Early on in the Golden Age of Tech insanity he completely revised the checksheet, added all those memorization drills and so on. Sometimes when things would go wrong he would order the folks involved to do the course.
It is deliciously ironic that they can’t even seem to shatter a magnetic “Call Me” sign, let alone a suppressive smiling poodle. They just run and hide. If the “PTS SP tech” worked all us commenters would be just shattered fragments on the ground long ago.
The glaring problem with it is the automatic assumption that if you don’t like Scientology you must be a sociopath. So they wrongly assign sociopath status (suppressive person) to all and sundry, while failing to recognize the real sociopaths in their own ranks. There is such a thing as a sociopath, but very little of the “tech” on the PTS SP course is worth anything when you run into a real one.
For some real information on sociopaths try “The Sociopath Next Door”, Martha Stout. Somehow the idea that all illness and failure stems from contact with a sociopath did not make it into her book. Can it be that this is also wrong?
To say that all failures and sickness is from an SP is the very definition of victim mentality.
It is the philosophy of no responsibility.
Can being around an asshole make life difficult? Absolutely!
But to blame all mistakes, accidents and sickness on others is evidence of an underdeveloped intelligence. Someone who does not have self knowledge. Someone who has a victim mentality.
The 3rd party “law” is yet more evidence of a no responsibility philosophy.
So yes Bruce, that was also BS. It was Ron’s lack of self knowledge. It was his granting magical powers to real or imagined enemies.
Blaming others for our experience is disempowering. Blaming others for our experience is the essence of moral weakness; the polar opposite of being at cause.
Did the course in 1986 and it has helped me in life. It also played a key role when I diconnected from the church.
Mike, you cut right to the core of Hubbards key manipulation and lie.
Being the super thetans he was, I’m quite surprised he couldn’t see the internet coming. Maybe Hubbard should have had more sec checks….
I always wondered that too about Ron and the Internet.Thought he would have embraced it as an instant way to love bomb via the web-ways.❤️.
Perfectly said indeed. Scioentologists are afraid to explain whatever regarding the cult, but leaving the topic or the questions with unrelated answers. They are in total loss with medias, but when they can hide behind something like CCHR or any more unknown of their hundreds, yes, hundreds, of associations.
Those assocs are even forbidden somewhat to use the words Hubbard, scientology, etc.: by instance, the stoopid GO forced us to erase the name of one association we created “Les amis de LRH”, even writing les amis de LRH was “explained” as “Les amis de la Route Heureuse”.
Scientology is probably one of the human grups with the least freedom of expression!
So how can you seriously save the planet on the happy road?
Well…it beats the unhappy road…..right?
I did that course and it is completely BOGUS
staring at walls, recite the tone scale backwards
tested on scientology holidays.
give me a break.
Knowing Saint Patricks day does not make me Irish
Re: They [Scientologists] shut down their buildings and keep everyone inside if there is someone on the sidewalk with a sign.
It’s true and I know from first-hand experience. In late April 2016, former scientologists Cece Marie Gangle Smith, Lynn Fountain Campbell and I formed a protest at PAC Base in Los Angeles. Cece, Lynn and I are all former Sea Org members; we first understood what it meant to “shatter suppression” when we were dedicated to everything Hubbard.
With the blessing of Phil and Willie Jones (whose billboard “To my loved one in scientology… call me” reaches out to their adult children still trapped in scientology), Cece and Lynn drove, in their respective cars, slowly around PAC Base with metallic “Call Me” signs affixed to the sides of their cars. I, in turn, carried a hand-held “Call Me” sign and walked on the sidewalks around PAC Base.
We traveled slowly and respectfully around PAC Base. Not once did we shout or make a commotion; we observed all the laws of the land (even Cece’s dog, Simi, smiled). That sweet message, one of love, caused a panic, some of which I caught on camera and have posted elsewhere.
PAC Security Guards appeared, some of which I had never seen before, apparently frozen in their tracks at the sight of the “Call Me” signs. Scientology may have grown accustomed to noisy protests, but this quiet protest resulted in a momentary lockdown of the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles “AOLA”). I watched this from across the street, amazed and astonished; I had heard of lockdowns, but had never actually witnessed one.
Scientology became, for a few moments, exactly what they are afraid of; they ran from the truth and hid behind a curtain of their own making. The reality of scientology is unreality; they live in a bubble world. It has but one door: you can only “enter” that dream world, and God Forbid you should ever find your way out.
Fred G. Haseney
Ex-scientologist, 1977-2014
And Fred the very best example was SMP day when the public waiting for the bus to the opening on ASHO steps were all ordered to turn around so they could not see you and friends signs. All but one did as told! That is a very good example how they were not trusted/allowed to confront and think for themselvs.
I’m glad that one person did not obey orders and turn around! At least one person is a thinker, not a sheep. I can’t stand it when someone says “don’t look at that, you don’t need to know” or “you can’t see that” – the “that” is exactly what I want to see. I don’t close my eyes to anything, I want to know everything – the good, the bad… more information is always better than being kept in the dark. I want to approach something with a foundation of knowledge, not ignorance. Going back to the one person who didn’t turn around when ordered – good job, kudos to you!
Hello, Cece! Yes, watching scientologists ordered to turn around so as to not “see” the protesters or their “Call Me” signs left an imprint on me as well as my camera. In that photo, all the scientologists turned around when ordered; one guy is facing the guy to his left, so we get to see his profile. That guy, by the way, is a Survival Rundown auditor, I believe.
They cannot reconcile the quote without admitting that the “tek” is fraudulent. THAT cannot happen as the con would screech to a halt. And that dangling carrot (the tek in the form of the bridge) is what keeps the remaining sheep in line.
Exactly! So sad, they can’t see this…
They choose NOT to see it…
“Let’s move on, Myrt, it’s an SP!”
“Yes, Gus, we don’t want to mortgage the house again over having to get sec-checked…”
“…over having to get sec checked…” Three times over…
You poor thing.
I guess Scientologists should do Grade 0 (or is it 1?) instead of the PTS/SP course. Then they would be able to communicate with anyone on any subject, right?
Except for SPs. They have the most powerful tech in the universe…confront!
Cal mag is their unappreciated answer to everything isn’t it? What’s with this mental attitude, 1000 yd stare, look in the face stuff and 2 unflinching hours later you’re OT and then bye bye, do a bunk, zip, no more money left, now you’re declared? Some sort of Cosmic initiation?
Stick to cal-mag!
Fortunately I am not an SP! 🙂
Fortunately I am…
Lucky you! You get to meet REAL OSA morons face to face. Lucky you! 🙂
$cientology is a $cience of exploiting Human vulnerabilities and “for Profit” $ells a $olution but never really delivers any lasting relief.
$cientology procedure – very clever, very covert – and this “reach and withdrawal” works so well on unsuspecting souls who trust churches….
1. Find ruin – rip it open and make it BLEED! Make it very real!! Make it HURT!!!
2. Must have Scientology – $ell $olution
3. Can’t have Scientology – Take it away….
4. Chase carrot on a stick for eternity….smash life in order to “have” $cientology – and all along there is NOTHING to have.
$cientology is A Science of $moke and Mirror’s.
$cientology – where it makes your hurt for eternity – never giving any lasting relief…always restimulating – rarely easing….it constantly picks open wounds and exploits them.
That is indeed quite a remark stemming from you. It is not the DATA that comprises the subjects of DIANETICS and SCIENTOLOGY that is at fault. That information is only there to be known and applied. It is PEOPLE pretending to be communicators of this information that try and give this information a bad name so it never becomes known or applied. Unfortunately those people are called the Church of Scientology. A lot of people dislike L. Ron Hubbard for having ever discovered this information in the first place, but if he had not, who would have, you or me? Perhaps. But it turns out we didn’t! 🙂 People should still have the truth to live with even in spite of circumstances in life that go by the names of David Miscavige, Flag, Sea Org, Mission, Gold Base and a long list of derogative names associated with keeping this information out of people’s hands long enough to control them forever. I can assure, that will not be me! 🙂
I am blocked by just about every Scientology-related account on Twitter. Furthermore, I’ve been blocked by most of the so called Scientology celebrities, including Chill EB, who I once chatted with and apologized for a single unkind tweet to him.
When I first started protesting on Twitter, I was accused (wrongly) by crazy Michael Wilde of “making physical threats” to Kirstie Alley and others. (I RT’d a meme from Hubbard about getting rid of SPs “quietly and without sorrow”.) Kirstie promptly blocked me and tweeted that “insanity, hatred and stupidity” are the biggest problems in this world. Spot on, Kirstie!
I also scared “Paulista” aka “brilliantsights” by telling him I was an SP and he was now an SP for tweeting to me. He told me to “stop committing bad acts” and headed for his safe space. Can’t make this stuff up!
Scientologists simply cannot see the major conflicts between their words and actions. Since what they have to communicate is toxic, maybe it’s for the best.
One of the most inhumane and cruel actions within the “tech” of Scientology and practiced with EVERYONE who is regged out of huge chunks of money – is the “PTS” scam.
Find Ruin – exploit it.
Pick the scabs open and make em bleed.
PROMISE $cientology has the $olution. IMPINGE upon their bank accounts, credit cards, IRA, Stock Portfolio and equity in homes….if they don’t have any of that – GET THEM TO BORROW THE MONEY.
Put that money on ” account” – where $cientology calls it a DONATION …. (whistling in the air)
Then – do the routing form.
Then….sign LEGAL DOCUMENTS –
LEGAL DOX – where you are signing away all of your rights…and giving this criminal organization the right to keep all of your money under any circumstance. Of course, LIES – BIG LIES are told when the legal dox are presented to the trusting, unsuspecting souls who TRUST this “church”.
Find out SOMEONE in your environment does not want you sucked into a CULT where they will financially bankrupt you and manipulate into slave labor.
Now – ‘handle’ or disconnect…and let the games begin…
Scientology – the 3rd party to ALL CONFLICT ALWAYS!!
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