This should be fun.
Alfraudie is being brought in from his IAS world Regging Tour — hanging with his NOI buddies and only $500 a head?
How exciting could a weekend be. Hard to top this.
But don’t forget to bring ALL your checkbooks and credit cards. There are a LOT of regges at Flag in addition to Alfraudie.
Here is the full line up.
The only scientologists they could get were 3 white businessmen.
Two NOI people — one doing Group Processing (that’s NOT Dianetics…) and then a non-scientology Minister from LA who is involved in CCHR.
I guess scientology figures their white business guys are going to impart wisdom to the brothers about how to make money.
Of course, THIS is the event you don’t want to miss.
Just like all the others.
Never trust a self-improvement group that can’t spell ‘rejuvenate.’ Unless reJIVEnate is a subtle joke?
You’ve got to be f…… kidding me!
So that NOI guy is what passes as a “friend” for COB. Geezers…
one of the biggest laughs Is they are having a “Wakanda Gala” which Is a fictitious country located in Sub-Saharan Africa created by Marvel Comics for the movie Black panther… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda
Ok, 30 years since flag opened. It’s seems to me that the amount of public keeps getting smaller and smaller. They must on the edge all the time. Pityful.
The Most Corroded, er Corrupted Institutions are the Churches. The Most Corroded, er Corrupted Institutions are the Churches
Nation of Islam Sister Nayyirah Muhammad, the woman delivering Group Processing, was the first woman in the Nation of Islam to become both Clear (via Scientology, not Dianeitics) and a Super Power completion. She was a Power FSM (Field Staff Member) in 2017, meaning she makes a commission on the sale of Scientology services and other donations to the COS. She is training to be a Scientology Classed Auditor and thus a Minister or Minister-in-Training of the Church of Scientology. She is a MAJOR promoter of Scientology within the Nation of Islam.
Nation of Islam Minister Dr. Alim Muhammad, who is delivering the lecture on “Food Protocol That Enhances Beingness, Doingness & Havingness, is the Minister of Health and Human Services for the Nation of Islam. He is promoting the Universal Processing Center, which will combine the best of the Nation of Islam with the best of Scientology.
ESMB thread showing that members of the Nation of Islam are practicing the religion of Scientology, including becoming Ministers or Ministers-in-Training of the Church of Scientology:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/members-of-the-nation-of-islam-are-practicing-the-religion-of-scientology.43362/
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ROFL
“combine the best of the Nation of Islam with the best of Scientology.”
Dear God! I wish I had thought of that phrase.
The ribs, they hurt now.
Hi ISN – I’ve been reading this topic on ESMB and there are lots of interesting, informative and humorous comments from yourself and others. If there’s any possibility of applying logic to crazy, this jumped out at me from one of your posts:
Supreme Wisdom = The wisdom of Master Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad (co founders of NOI)
Supreme Technology = Dianetics and Scientology
LOL
Maybe Elron needed to add “compartmentalized mind” to the the list of analytical mind, reactive mind and somatic mind. Maybe it’s included somewhere in the tech and NOI utilize it. I doubt that too many NOI are moving up the bridge. Just like all scientologists past, present and future the cost is prohibitive. Maybe Dave gives them a break and they only need to buy one e-meter instead of two.
I’m down a rabbit hole on that thread and almost halfway through.
Interesting that NOI are going to pay to attend an Ebony Awakening taught “Yacub’s grafted Devils”.
The two bubbles that are coming together, by explicit writtings of their founders, cannot exist in the same space.
I would love to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes in both camps. The plans for deception by both parties must be deliciously convoluted.
This has to be some of the most racially insensitive BS EVER. It’s a SCN event boy howdy, you can see the pasty white guys behind this “Ebony Awakening” crap down to the Blaxploitation style lettering. Jules Winnfield would most definitely NOT approve. How is the NOI swallowing this shit? The only thing worse would be Mammy Night at the Ft Harrison and prizes being awarded for their Al Jolson impersonations….
“A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon, you’re talking real money.”
Everett McKinley Dirksen
“Ebony Awakening” sounds like a porno.
A lot more people would probably pay to see that too.
(Can I please pre-purchase two tickets?…for a friend, of course.)
Off topic, but when does “Aftermath” start up again? I thought it was last week. Also, since the LA District Attorney is dragging their feet, might we see the Danny episode this season?
If this organization weren’t ruining lives this would merely be comedy gold. It’s a clear example of the maxim that those telling half-truths always tell the wrong half.
Discover “the keys to prosperity?” Fair enough–as long as you leave out the part that it’s not YOUR prosperity that the speaker is concerned about. You’re the one who will take out a third mortgage and try borrowing money from those few folks you haven’t disconnected from (yet) in order to secure his commissions and the cult’s “prosperity.”
“Beingness, Doingness and Havingness?” Or: How to become the laughing stock of those folks who actually speak English by communicating most effectively in cult speak. And confuse the hell out of your spell checker in the process…
“Increase your productivity” by imitating the principles an organization is run on that sends solicitations to “suppressive” people who told them to drop dead as recently as 25 years ago.
“Integrity and Honesty?” Promoted by a group legendary for offering its own training routine for lying? What could go wrong…
A point about body thetans was brought up. I’ve always wonderd what body thetans feed on. Do they like peanut butter? Recently I was considerably overweight and dieted to lose a lot of fat. Does this mean I’ve reduced the number of body thetans by starving them out?. I hear some noise in my ears sonstantly but am unsure if the body thetans are talking to me in some exotic language of if I have tinnitus. Pls. Help.
In a weird sort of demented way, the goings on at Flag are hilarious!
The mecca of technical money gouging creates the most remarkable bs… wonder what’s next?
They have no idea how funny they really are. I say we set up tents in the park and see what happens.
Didn’t they have a special food protocol in that movie “Logan’s Run”. Had something that looked like green cakes, but actually was processed old people that dropped their body. Guess i will stick with bacon and ham hocks instead. Good old Polish foods.
“Soylent Green”, based very loosely on “Make Room! “Make Room!” by Harry Harrison. That might give Discharge Manure ideas with what to do with left over $camologists.
You’re thinking of Soylent Green. Logan’s Run had a totally different plot point.
David Bates,
That movie starred Charlton Heston and is called “Soylent Green”.
Dave F.
completely off subject ….i watched Soylent Green high on LSD….NOT recommended…lol
“Soylent Green is people!”
Logans Run was almost as dystopian, but slightly less cannibalistic, though it is almost explicity implied that runners that made it to the food processing robot were sent back as a protien source.
I think the story line in “Logan’s Run” was that at a certain age people would step into a disintegrator to prevent overpopulation and preserve limited resources. There are lots of science fiction stories about unusual solutions for overpopulation on inhabited planets. On planet Earth it would be nice if the Pope had a revelation that birth control is okay.
I don’t know if the NOI is part of the be fruitful and multiply crowd but it probably has a higher birth rate than Scientology. Scientology beware. The NOI is going to overtake you through internal expansion, no recruitment necessary. Didn’t Elron say somewhere, at least once, that Scientology would continue to evolve?
I’ll book a flight tomorrow….along the same lines as “free beer tomorrow”
Free beer tomorrow? Whoa! You’re speaking my language! I’ll pick up some subs. This is really nice of you, Floyd!
Free beer!!! On my way… yeah, thanks Floyd.
OSD, if you can locate the beer, Ill bring cigars.
I normally smoke something else…
A Feast for the Regging Parasites.
I wouldn’t give scientology one thin fucking dime. Ever.
I wouldn’t do “”the scientology bridge to total freedom” if it was offered to me FOR FREE since there IS no “bridge”
and
because absolutely everything
? L Ron Hubbard ?
(a.k.a. “Captain Rubber Lips”)
ever wrote on the subject of “scientology” — down to the very last syllable —
is a flaming crock of crap. ?
I’ve followed scientology for years purely for shits and giggles entertainment. It’s one of the most amazingly massive and intricate cons ever created.
According to Hubbard, the ultimate reality is that I got invisible space aliens clinging to me that I can communicate with telepathically and make them go away. ? If I give “the Church” a lot of
??? “donations” ???
for which the “church” will reveal this ultimate sacred truth after years of “auditing” and me coughing up hundreds of thousands of dollars— and help me free myself from them.
Whoooooo hoooooo!
You can’t make this shit up. ?
Except for the fact that … it’s all made up.
But of course that’s the same for ALL so called religions. They’re all 100% pure B.S.
People are desperate for answers when in reality there are none, the unfulfillable promise of an afterlife etc. ??
BTW could you post some more pictures of that David Miscavige midget character dressed up and decked out in his Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band/Sea Org costume please? Honest to God first time I saw one of those photos of him I laughed so hard for so long my stomach was sore for days…..
Yes, I am afraid “you can make this shit up” and Hubbard did.
To survive in Scientology…..my Mom has sold sheets on street corners.
She has been thoroughly brainwashed into believing this cult does good – only her life is a complete and utter mess. She won’t look at the internet or listen to reason when it comes to Scientology.
She has had more jobs than Hubbard has excuses for why Scientology does not work and she has moved around more than I care to know about. It is very sad.
My siblings are brainwashed too.
I think my Dad is out and UTR though….happy about that.
I hope the government shuts down this evil cult so I can get my family back.
I hope your Dad is out too, Big Red. That would be wonderful!
Bridgette, Please don’t compare scn to religions. That’s like comparing apples to battlships.
Agree! ☺
It’s like comparing Apples to diarrhea balls from an old goat.
“Food protocol that enhances your Beingness, doingness and havingness”? Can’t I just eat more fiber?
As the ‘Doctor’ is definitely NOI, he is going to say no pork. They can take my bacon from my cold dead, greasy fingers.
This just Miscavige working on his white peoples guilt. Nothing else to see here.
My beingness and doingness are greatly motivated to enhace my havingness of bacon.
Does that include eating only one meal a day as advocared by His Holiness Elijah Muhammad?
The organizers misspelled “rejuvenate.” Sea Org members are horrendous spellers, perhaps due to lack of sleep. Mike himself was an exception.
I don’t get it. A basic and pervasive ritual in their religion involves the use of a dictionary. How can they misspell anything? I would think that they had caught on by now how useful a dictionary can be for correct spelling.
“how useful a dictionary can be for correct spelling.”
Yes, but in the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology, dictionaries are used as tools in the mind-fucking. Yes, looking up words to find out what they mean (and how to spell words) is useful. Looking up all possible definitions of a word (and the definitions of every word in the definitions) is just a way of stopping the victim of the mind-fuck from thinking.
The thought-stopping part is that any questions about the meaning of Hubbard’s sentences is countered by endless looking up of words until the questions have been burned from the mind of the victim, and they are certain that love Hubbard (aka Big Brother) more than anything.
https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-answers-to-every-question-anyone-may-have/
You’d think “Rev.” Allfrauddie would be keeping even further away from his former squeeze “Dr.” Hanan Islam than the entire width of the continental USA, as her LA fraud trial looms on the 28th. But now he must dance to Miscavige’s tune to avoid being thrown to the wolves…
Are they former? Man, I’m clueless… I thought they were still a thing but just didn’t advertise it.
…they’ll tell the wives “it’s a nice beach, we’ll a stay in a big fancy hotel, maybe take the kids and swing over to Orlando for all that Disney stuff. Just think of all the beingness and havingness we’ll learn about,” to which she replies “Not with my money, you don’t.”
“We can take the kids to Disney without all that beingness crap polluting our minds, Haven’t you figured out yet it’s just another white man con? We give them a couple of thousand dollars, and then we have to find a bunch of new suckers with money to waste just to get that a little 10% commission and break even – and they probably have some fine print so they can stiff us on the commission, anyway. It’s the same old same old, and a waste of good money. Remember when you were gonna get rich in Amway? At least I still got five hundred dollars worth of smelly soap from that one. Expensive smelly soap. And if I want to learn some new cooking I already got cable. So just forget about it.”
Common sense will destroy the scam quicker than anything else. I hope someone in the black community understands the scam and enlightens their brethren.
Make no mistake NOI isn’t being taken in by $camology, they are going in by the explicit direction of their leadership.
The motives of Farrakhan for this move are suspect and open to many theories, but it sure as hell isn’t for Clearing the Planet.
Clearing the Planet of the Grafted Race maybe…
White devils!
The motives of Farrakhan (and Miscavige) are certainly open to many theories. In the overall the alliance might be a win-win for both the CoS and the NOI. The CoS gets to present the appearance of expansion and “We welcome people of all faiths.” The NOI gets to present the appearance that it’s not racist by practicing aspects of a subject developed by a white man and aligning with a primarily white organization.
Sooner or later NOI members doing scn courses are going to start asking questions and sharing experiences with Scientologists.
I suppose I could call and sign up. I foresee a movie deal here.
“White KKKlamsman”
I’m available.
I keep waiting for the fight to break out. NOI hates white people, and they aren’t shy about saying so.
Wow. This ought to be a barrel of fun. I am interested in Dr. Alim Muhammad’s talk on “food protocol that enhances beingness, doingness and havingness.” Wonder what sort of bizarre diet they’re going to propose there. I found a bunch of different “Nation of Islam” strange takes on real Muslim dietary prohibitions (they go beyond forbidding pork to forbidding a bunch of different types of beans). There’s another article about fasting during the day like real Muslims do during the holy month of Ramadan, but I’m not sure if that’s official recommendations of the church or just of some people. But whatever his diet secrets are, they ought to be entertaining.
But I have to say that the $500 for this conference is probably a better value than the $60 ticket price to see Joy Villa live, in a tour that she recently announced on her web site. It’s not actually clear whether she’s going to sing or whether it’s a talk to give us her informed opinions and insightful analysis of the meaning of life. Paying $60 to hear someone who can’t carry a tune is pretty optimistic pricing. And a $250 meet-and-greet VIP ticket sounds delusional.
Hard to follow a strict food protocol when all you have is rice & beans.
Briget, the strict food protocol IS rice and beans. As I recall Flag’s rice and beans in the late ’70s, Laurie did a good job making it palatable, but it was still a simple (cheap) set of ingredients that was supposed to add up to a fairly nutritionally complete meal. More recently, a food show I fell into accidently waxed romantic about New Orlean’s traditional rice & beans dish, so it’s possible to enjoy Rice &Beans. Dang!, I’m getting hungry thinking about it.
Sound like you need the Rice And Beans Rundown!
AUDITOR: Walk over to that rice
Say hello to that rice
Walk over to those beans
Say hello to those beans
Continue to run until preclear has no further desire for rice and beans. Run Havingness on everything except rice and beans.
Dr..Alim Muhammad goes by the name “Muki Faud” he promotes a strange food substance he calls “Green Cakes”… Muki Is promoting a thing called the “Universal Processing Center” its a mashup of Scientology’s Administration Tech and Dianetics with the NOI the “Supreme Wisdom” and “How to Eat to Live… hes incorporates other bizzare the wall stuff .. https://i.imgur.com/o5wR8xh.jpg http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/members-of-the-nation-of-islam-are-practicing-the-religion-of-scientology.43362/page-23
I checked the esmb link. Holy crap. This NOI stuff just gets weirder and weirder. So Mucky Fraud thinks there were “ancient scientologists” and Hub simply “modernised” Egyptian can-squeezing tech? Where’s DM and the thought police in all of this?
Muki is a squirrel.
John P.: I’ve never listened to Joy Villa before so I went to Spotify to see if you were being way too hard on her…”someone who can’t carry a tune”. Well I’m sorry to report that it appears you are well justified in your assessment. lol
Always look forward to your excellent comments John P.
Question: What will happen when the NOI figures out there is no increase in their membership, no increase in their income and no NOI members have gained the superhuman powers of “Clear” that would impress and dazzle the world at large? Will this marriage of psychopathic forces (David Miscavige and Louis Farrakhan) blow up or just quietly dissipate with no hoopla?
An interesting question, Robert. I think this is like the movie “Dirty Rotten Scoundrels,” where the two con men try to one-up the other. I think they’ll keep at it until one of them is carried out in a box (Farrakhan is 80-something now, so it’s likely Miscavige will outlast him). Once Farrakhan is gone, it’ll probably fade.
I don’t think that the Dianetics crap will have actually helped with retention of rank-and-file NOI members but it may help them to hang on to some of the more gung-ho crowd, as a way to distract them from the failure of the mothership to land on schedule. I also don’t think it helps with recruiting. So it has to be about helping Farrakhan control the most rabidly loyal cultists…
and Farrakhan probably gets a commission. 🙂
John P, I’d agree that Dwarfenführer is younger, so more like to outlast the black racist, except that DM’s habits and lifestyle portend a shortened life. Gad, the guy can’t ever relax, but has to do EVERYthing himself. THAT sort of stress could do him in tomorrow, as could hispiloting that monster bike much too big for a child’s body to control reliably. Never mind my expectation that he would believe a solid jolt of scotch would keep him warm on the ride, nevermind that a mere MEST substance couldn’t possibly affect the giant being enough to impair his judgement in any way.
At least its better than those black guys who hang out on street corners, wear weird costumes, and tell everyone that they’re the real jews and that soon all white people will be their slaves
It might be necessary to look at the long game. Miscavige doesn’t care about expanding his religion but the NOI does.
Even though the NOI is more into expansion than Scientology, I have to believe that they’re not doing well at it. And when Farrakhan goes to the flying saucer in the sky, there will probably be a fight for the big chair that drives people out.
NOI is after that juicy Membership Control, SecCheck, and regging tech.
Plus there are beautiful buildings all around the world for the NOI to utilize, all bought and paid for by scientology. Who could ask for more?
Agree
‘the most effective effort ever launched to salvage mankind’
Now that’s some pure bubble babble.
‘Bubble Babble.’ Zola, you’re on to something big!
“EBONY awakening” How racist can they get?
Maybe they could get Maxine Waters to come and speak . . . LOL !
Actually, Dave F, that wouldn’t be horrible for the NOI crowd from Dwarfenführer’s viewpoint. A quick Google tells me she hasn’t been caught in anything too shady yet. ‘Course, she IS a politician, with all that implies.