We are joined this week by media and politics reporter Yashar Ali. Yashar has done over a dozen stories related to scientology and more are coming. He has been a long-term voice against scientology abuses who has never been scared off by their Fair Game tactics.
Yashar was recently named one of Time magazine’s 25 most influential people on the internet:
You can follow Yashar on Twitter: @Yashar, Instagram: yasharali and Facebook: Yashar Ali
With his background in politics and the media we had a lot to talk about: Scientology celebrities and how the media fails to hold them accountable. What politicians and law enforcement should be doing with respect to the abuses of scientology and its tax exempt status. Scientology’s attempted intimidation of the media and the fair game they have carried out against Yashar personally. And a lot more.
We mentioned a number of documents that I would include here as a one-stop repository for those who might want to see the facts concerning scientology.
Early in our conversation, Yashar talks about discovering Andreas Heldal Lund’s groundbreaking website Operation Clambake which is still an incredible repository of information about scientology.
This is the compendium of Hubbard writings about destroying the enemies of scientology that I posted on my blog previously: Dealing with Critics of Scientology – The L. Ron Hubbard Playbook.
This post contains many of the most infamous of the “scriptures” of scientology, directing scientologists to “always attack, never defend,” “cost them their jobs,” “investigate noisily,” “destroy them utterly,” “threaten what they seek to protect” and a whole lot more.
We mention the passage in Dianetics where Hubbard says a 7 year-old-girl should not react to a passionate kiss from a man:
Here is the scientology policy on not contacting law enforcement — these are denominated as High Crimes in scientology in the book Introduction to Scientology Ethics:
- Delivering up the person of a Scientologist without justifiable defense or lawful protest to the demands of civil or criminal law.
- Reporting or threatening to report Scientology or Scientologists to civil authorities in an effort to suppress Scientology or Scientologists from practicing or receiving standard Scientology.
This is another earlier article from my blog concerning covering up and not reporting crimes:
This is the final chapter of Hubbard’s Introduction to Scientology Ethics book — part of the scripture of scientology that every scientologist is bound to follow. It is just one piece that exemplifies his views about law enforcement and the government.
And this is another infamous Hubbard quote from his second book Science of Survival concerning the eradication of those below “2.0 on the Tone Scale.” The Tone Scale is Hubbard’s method of determining someone’s value and predicting their behavior. For example, homosexuals and “other sexual perverts” are pegged by Hubbard as 1.1 on the Tone Scale (below 2) and should therefore be eliminated.
There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the tone scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the tone scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow. Adders are safe bedmates compared to people on the lower bands of the tone scale. Not all the beauty nor the handsomeness nor artificial social value nor property can atone for the vicious damage such people do to sane men and women. The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line — a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred — or simply quarantining them from the society. A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country.
Here is an earlier article on my blog concerning Scientology Homophobia:
What is the scientology “Bridge to Total Freedom”?
It is the sequential series of steps laid out by L. Ron Hubbard that every scientologist must follow to attain “spiritual freedom.”
It contains a lot of arcane terminology, many claims of things to be accomplished which are dubious at best, outright lies at worst. But most of all it is a path of continued financial burden — every service listed on this grade chart has a fixed price (called a “donation” to make it sound more palatable — but if you don’t pay you don’t get the service). Scientology is a business masquerading as a religion. There are not only fixed prices, they pay commissions to anyone who brings someone in and gets them to pay, and offer “discounts” to incentivize larger payments. Here are some examples of scientology service price lists: A scientology Price List
Here is a tiny sample of the smear tactics scientology has employed against Yashar — comparing him to Goebbels in response to him reporting something they didn’t like. This is typical of the smear sites scientology spends enormous TAX FREE money to maintain, and the social media bots they use that Twitter and Instagram refuse to deactivate.
This is an episode you do not want to miss.
Another great episode. Thank you guys.
Guests are always special and one can gather a lot of information here.
I don’t know if there are the prerequisites but I would see this format well also on TV with guests like Yashar Ali, journalists and writers, activists, lawyers, and other experts to discuss not only scn itself but various issues (as you are already doing) relating to all those other topics that orbit around cults, tax exemption, abuses, information on how they act, etc, etc.
It could have even a greater impact on the society and government agencies.
I think people would like it as many did not know anything before listening to the podcast or watching the Aftermath and are then very impressed and fascinated.
“Scientology is a criminal organization set up as a for-profit business masquerading as a religion.”
Yashar Ali said this during Mike & Leah’s most recent podcast and that quote just stopped me dead in my tracks because that has to be a perfect way to describe this cult. I listened to this entire podcast. I have never before been able to listen to any of these podcasts all the way through (for reasons that I am struggling to find the courage to explain).
But this podcast was just wonderful, magnificent – just about perfect! Never before have I ever heard anyone cut through all the verbal bullshit and get right to the point as did Yashar Ali. This man is truly a paragon (someone of exceptional merit) when it comes to discussing this criminal organization.
At the very least, from now on, I will describe this cult exactly as Yashar has described it above. What a perfect vocal expression to define this scam. Truly perfect! But he said many other things that cut right to the bone and after listening to this podcast, I must admit that I must change many of my opinions about this cult and what to do about interviews with its celebrity members and what to do to help law enforcement take it down and so many other issues. I am sad to admit this blog is just not the place to discuss them all because there is just not enough space and I’m pretty sure no one would appreciate if I wrote a post that occupied ten or more pages – which is what I would really like to do.
Instead, I will try to post some opinions about Leah. I want to start off by saying that Leah is truly the hero of the struggle to take down this criminal organization. She started the entire serious movement by speaking out about Shelly and by leaving the scam in a highly vocal way. I think she is also responsible for the best strategy so far regarding how to stop this scam and ultimately take them down. That strategy is to continually keep discussing this scam and all the terrible harm it does and to do this in such a way that the public is kept apprised of this terrible evil so that eventually, almost no one would ever consider joining this scam and would warn anyone who ever talks about joining it. There are many more things I’d like to say about Leah to praise her and thank her.
In the meantime, I believe that all opponents of this scam must ensure that all of our friends and relatives – especially they young ones – know just how destructive and how much of an atrocity this cult really is. We must tell them to explain what we know to everyone they know. Hopefully the day will come when no one has the balls to ask anyone to take a “free personality test”.
I agree with your assessment of the quote. I too immediately stopped, re-listened, and then just paused and enjoyed it awhile.
For now, it describes my experience with the cult as well and I too will use this description.
It is succinct and I can easily backup each part of with endless substance.
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and for the record, yes. I too reach a point in each episode where I just have to shut it off. I try to go back but it’s so frustrating I can’t. This one I got through with several breaks.
I learned something from today’s podcast. LRH was right about one thing: the best way to clean windows is with newspapers. He said with vinegar, but I prefer Windex.
So LRH was right about something.
Revoking their tax exempt status is the linchpin. What can we do to get the government’s attention? Is there someone far smarter than I who can start a petition? Would that even work? Surely they can’t ignore thousands and thousands of signatures. This makes me so angry that words cannot even articulate what I’m feeling. I want to go all New York on their a**es like Leah, and I’m from freaking Texas! WHAT. CAN. WE. DO?
Hi Krystal,
Unfortunately, petitions don’t help at all. What makes the most impact is contacting your government officials, the IRS, speaking out and making others aware, etc.
There are several other ways to help but I’m in a rush to get to work…lol… sorry.
Someone, ANYONE, tell me where to start. I’m in a large metro area in Texas.
Hello Krystal G.
There is a wonderful organization called, “The Aftermath Foundation”. It is dedicated to helping people who have recently left scientology or who are contemplating leaving this evil cult.
I suggest the best way for you to get started is to contact them and ask them to help you in your goal. Their web site is: theaftermathfoundation.org
If anyone can help you, these people are very likely the best way for you to find out how to go about achieving this goal. If you find a good way to go about the revocation of their Tax Exempt Status, please come back and let us know. I would imagine that many people here would also like to participate in the revocation of their Tax Exempt Status.
If I spelled that wrong or you ever forget it, you can always Google The Aftermath Foundation. When you visit their website, you will find their email address under the link “Contact Us”.
Perhaps I should also tell you that Mike Rinder is one of the founding members of this Hello Krystal G.
Perhaps I should also tell you that Mike Rinder is one of the founding members of this organization (I think). He is also on the board of directors. I tell you this to let you know Mike is aligned with this organization as are several of the people who post here.
I wish you the best of luck and send you all my good wishes. Good Luck Krystal.
There is an awful lot more I’d like to tell you about this organization. But I’m afraid I’m out of time here. Anyway, tou can read about it for yourself.
Krystal? When people leave Scientology, they often find themselves with several serious problems.
Many of them have never gotten any education except the education provided by the cult and that education is about the cult and it is usually has nothing to do with job skills or how to find a job.
Most of the people who leave the cult are cut off from all their friends and family because of the cult’s policy of “disconnection”. Their friends and family are no longer permitted to communicate with them in any way and they are not permitted to help them in any way.
Most of these people do not possess even the basic skills required to find a job and a place to live. They know nothing about bank accounts or libraries or how to get help in this modern society.
Just imagine what you would do if you found yourself all alone in a big city with zero job skills, zero money, no place to live, no friends or family. The list goes on and on. So many of these people find themselves in desperate straights.
I have a lot more to say about this. But I think it would be best for you to contact The Aftermath Foundation (TAF) and speak with them directly. If anyone can help you with your goal of achieving the revocation of the Tax Exempt Status, IMO, TAF is the best place for you to start.
Good luck and please come back and tell us about your progress.
One of my state’s senators is pretty well known for being vocal with unpopular opinions and ruffling feathers. I’ll start by contacting his office and bugging them. Thanks!
In the middle of listening to this podcast right now. Mr. Ali is GREAT and is doing great work. But. I know he has a background in political reporting, but he would probably reach a wider audience if he didn’t bring in his political opinions. Not all of your listeners, not all of the people interested in bringing Scientology down, is anti-Republican or anti-Trump. Some, like me, are independents with no party affiliation and we are BONE WEARY of public figures politicizing EVERYTHING. Unity starts when we put differences aside and stop using political leanings as a primary identifier of self. Looking forward to the next podcast.
I have to agree with Allison. Mike, when you and Leah start Trump bashing with your guests, it takes away from the podcast. Can you keep the political stuff out of it completely? I hope you consider it.
I am a Registered Independant however, I did not vote in the election. I am not for Trump or Biden because the entire subject of politics is like trying to argue the good points about Scientology. You can’t. Too much has happened to do harm to others.
This is true in our government. The corruption runs across both aisles.
There is a sinister thing going on in the media. I stopped watching all news except abroad.
The United States government is broken. There is no fixing it. You are all deluded if you think any party represents the people. Money mixed with power = corruption. I will never vote again and am done with politics forever. They system is too far gone. Our US Government is corrupt beyond repair. I really hope you will please leave all political discussions on political blogs. Keep it about Scientology. That is what you are good at.
Though you say you are done with politics – yet you took the time to write this comment? Why do you care at this point, you say you won’t vote so why do you care about “bashing” any politician?
I think many of us are weary of politics right now. As soon as it gets mentioned, people go from being united against Scientology to divided along political lines. As South Park so eloquently (or not) puts it, American politics is like choosing between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
Krystal G – I could not agree more. The political arena in America is completely corrupted and too far gone to ever represent the people again. This will result in a revolution at some point in the future. Just study history. History repeats itself. Our system is broken beyond repair. You can’t give any human being too much power and money. Human beings are not to be trusted with this ever. You have to be able to spot when it is too far gone. It is hard to do when you are trapped in it. Look at Scientology. People in the Scientology cult can’t see the truth. They don’t get correct information and lies are told to them daily. Lying is part of being a Scientologist until the member does nothing but lie to themselves about everything.
Mike, I hope you continue to run the podcasts and keep politics out of the conversations. I can only make the request. The rest is your call. Your podcasts are spectacular when you keep it about religious cults like Scientology. Take a vote and see how others feel.
I said something because others are saying something. I thought you would want to know.
I stopped voting because I realized we are not represented by any Politician. The game is much bigger. Money gets represented so whoever is behind it gets what they want. Besides that, it is nothing but mud slinging and name smearing via all the intentional propaganda 24/7 in the news.
People have to wake up that no party in the US is representing the people. The politicians represent the people that gave them $ that got them in. Period. It is ridiculous. The last 4 years was especially disturbing due to the division with the people the propaganda created. I have friends who are Democrats who stopped talking to friends who are Republican. We of all people should see the signs of what is happening.
It has been nothing but non stop bashing of politicians dividing people and creating hate. Now, I don’t do any news media in the US. It is all propaganda intended to separate and divide the people.
You are one of my favorite “news” stops in the morning and I just wish we could keep politics out of it.
Leave politics out of it Mike. It has no bearing on what you are trying to accomplish. You will also turn off half the country who do not share your same political views.
Mike.
I kind of feel like my comment got lost in all of the hullabaloo above. I’m hoping you read and took my comment as the heartfelt statement that it was intended to be.
At the beginning of the podcast Mike compliments Leah on her appearance and Leah returns the favor and compliments Mike on his appearance. This is extremely sexist and must be eliminated from future podcasts!
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My brother works at a large company in Massachusetts. After a mandatory company wide “Sensitivity Training” seminar the company decided to put up a large poster board in the main lobby with pens and pencils available so people could write down various micro-aggessions and unconscious biases and so on they had discovered in the seminar. Someone wrote down that a man had complimented her hair style which made her feel uncomfortable. Others responded writing, “What kind of a friggin Snowflake are you!?”, “Go home and take a cold shower.” and so on. Similar comments and replies continued and the company quickly decided to remove the poster board.
Hello everyone
Wanted to get the word out that there is a new podcast called some place under neith. It’s about missing women. The first women they are featuring is Shelly Miscavige. Part one has only come out but they are doing several parts and doing a deep dive into her and David’s life. It’s worth a listen to get the word out.
I have listened to every one of your podcasts. I still can’t wrap my head around why Scientology has tax exemption status. I’ll never understand why they continue to keep their exemption status despite all the information that has come out (fair-gaming, front groups, separating families, forced abortions, and all of their policies). I think you are correct that it is in the government’s hands to do something. Now is the time. I see big changes in the future. I do believe that Scientology will no longer exist in the next few years. I liked what your guest had to say. (I could have done without some of his political comments) but I liked his passion for bringing down Scientology)..
Nina – Marty Rathbun and other high ranking officials helped David Miscavige obtain Tax Exempt status by harrasing, suing, spying and destroying the personal lives of United States Internal Revenue Agents. It’s all about Keeping Scientology Scamming by bullying techniques and fair game.
Because they spend millions on very good lawyers and relentlessly harassed the IRS into submission just like any ethical well meaning religious types do
Great episode with Yashar!
Explain to me how this CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION, calling themselves a church, can get away with this crap?
EVERYONE has a choice. It’s called FREE WILL. People have called some mega churches cults. Like Yashar said, they don’t call you up asking where you were if you miss a week. Again, we all have FREE WILL, but not members of this fake ABUSIVE thing called Scientology.
MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. You can find that in the BIBLE.
Hello Caroline. You asked, “Explain to me how this CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION, calling themselves a church, can get away with this crap? “
That is a very important question – a great question. I wish that I was more qualified to explain it. But in layman terms, I suppose the reason is that this world had never anticipated anything like this and the asshole who started this cult was an expert con man. He didn’t start off as an expert con man. But with each small defeat he learned how to get around the defeats and ulitmately, he became expert at lying, cheating and stealing.
The two single biggest reasons may well be that by calling his organization a “church”, he was able to skirt an incredible number of laws that had been established over thousands of years to protect people. The second reason was by getting “Tax Exempt Status”, this criminal enterprise was able to build up their wealth to staggering proportions.
Finally, if you listen to some of Mike & Leah’s podcasts – especially this latest podcast with Yashar Ali, I think you will learn a good deal more about how this atrocity has been allowed to exist for all these years.
The good news is that Leah Remini appears to have found the winning formula for combatting this evil. By keeping the word alive in the ear of the public, slowly but surely, the public will understand to stay the Hell away from this ugliness that does nothing more than empty peoples’ bank accounts and destroy their families.
This is certainly not a complete explanation. But I hope it will answer part of your question.
Thank you Skyler. I’ve listened to every Podcast, watched all episodes of The Aftermath and read Leah’s book. She is truly AMAZING! I commend her and Mike for the microscope they’ve put on Scientology. I am still truly baffled that they haven’t been taken down for abuse of power and robbing people of their money and lives. Makes me sick.
Indeed Caroline. It makes a lot of us sick. IMO, it should make any right thinking individual sick.
One of the biggest problems and reasons why they have not all been thrown into prison, is the fact that the US Constitution has some amazing built-in protections for religions.
It has often been said that if the FBI were to break down the doors to “The Hole” or other prisons belonging to this cult with all kinds of bizarre names, the prisoners would all say, “Prisoners? We are not prisoners. We are members of this religion and we want to be a part of this religion and we want to stay here.
I should have also mentioned the tremendous power of mind control in my above post. That is probably the third tool this scam uses to keep its slaves in the “Prison of Belief”. Mind Control is something that Law Enforcement really does not understand and does not know how to handle.
Yashar made some wonderful points and if we continue to support Mike & Leah and Yashar, I am hopeful the membership in this scam will continue to decline and also – very importantly – the day will come when we can take all of the criminals that control this terrible cult and throw them into prison – where they belong.
There are legal remedies to address the cult’s behavior, but no one is willing to bring those arguments to the court.
A few have tried and failed for reasons I won’t mention. It can be done.
In order for Tom Cruise to come out against Scientology, he would have to realize that his aiding and abetting of David Miscavige and the church has put a huge knife in his back. They have nearly 40 years of auditing on him which they could publish to hurt him. It would be fantastic if he and every other Scientology celebrity would wake up and speak their truth. Sadly, I don’t think it will happen because Cruise’s ego won’t allow him to admit that he made a mistake while still a young man in his twenties. He just comes across as someone who is just too proud or arrogant.
Mike, thank you for all of the work you and Leah are doing. Scientology does not stand a chance to you both exposing the truth. Tv and radio, Netflix, A&E, Youtube videos going viral, Social media – you are everywhere. That has got to be driving Miscavige crazy. Good. Continue!
You and Leah are a force to be reckoned with. Just relentless and because of that, you empower us to get busy and do something about it.
I was never in Scientology and frankly had never heard of it before. I am now an avid follower of your Blog, Mike. I just finished watching the docuseries ‘Scientology and the Aftermath’ on Netflix and I am hooked on following Mike and Leah. I just ordered HBO to get the move ‘Going Clear’ by Alex Gibney and I ordered a bunch of the books on Amazon, recommended on your website. Leah’s book will be my first. I can’t wait to dig into your podcasts on IHeartRadio. I found Tony Ortega’s blog and am blown away what he has ammased over the years.
I live in St Paul, Minnesota and am going to go into the Scientology Church in St Paul to see how many people go there. I also travel all over the Midwest for work and stay in major Cities for extended periods of time. I may be vistiting the missions and churches in the cities to see what is happening there as well. Dont’ worry, I know enough to ever trust anything they say so I will never get hooked. I am a Christian and will never leave my church. I am so happy I found out what Scientology really is so I can educate my 3 kids. They are getting ready to go to college soon and I certainly want to warn them of this cult and that Oxford Personality test scam they run on people.
Hello Minnesota. The movie “Going Clear” is a fabulous expose of this scam. I would wager you will enjoy it immensely.
Best wishes to you.
Skyler, thank you. I can’t wait. Alex Gibney’s other Documentaries are sooooo good.
Minnesota,
I’m so happy to find another Alex Gibney fan. I’m guessing most people may know of his other work that is similar to Going Clear. But he has also directed a whole bunch of short TV shows that are kind of crime episodes. Some of the shows he has directed include: The Crime of the Century (in post production), Agents of Chaos, The Innocence Files, Dirty Money, Rolling STone: Stories from the Edge, Billions, Cooked, Zero Days, Mea Maxima Culpa (this is a great one dealing with pedophile priests), Taxi to the Dark Side, Death Row Stories.
The ones I listed are only about one third of all the shows he has directed. You can see the complete list by Googling “IMDB Alex Gibney”.
But I just want to say a word about Death Row Stories. This is a series of maybe 50 short tales of people convicted of murder who are on death row but were eventually released by Project Innocence. Most of these stories are really kind of dull and repetitive (I’m so sorry to say that due to the material). But the ones that Alex directed are so much better than all the rest. If you are a fan of Alex Gibney, it is really worth checking out a few of these episodes to see the difference between an average director and a great director. The difference is astounding.
Just be careful Minnesota…
Don’t let your noble inclinations get your mind confused. Satan can still use these noble ideas to put you in hot water.
I am glad you are a Christian but make sure you stay, DAILY, in prayer and GOD’s word more than you study into the enemies lair. Teach your children to have a relationship daily with Christ, its the best armour you can give.
I’m praying that you and your family just stay close to Jesus more than anything else, friend. God bless you all.
Christianity is also a barbaric, dangerous cult. It has caused more harm, misery and death than one can imagine. Stay away from that one too.
Overrun in California, I certainly know that there are some Christian cults that were and are barbaric and evil. They really aren’t Christian. They just pretend to be. You know a good Christian by their walk, not their talk. That goes for any religion. Scientology talks a nice game, but they don’t walk it based on the secrets they kept hiden until the internet exposed it all. I mean, look at all of the books, movies, documentaries and blogs from people who did Scientology. People were destroyed by Scientology. Cults are in every arena especially religions and politics.
Overrun, there are vegans that eat meat too. In other words, use logic. If a person is really a vegan, they don’t eat meat. If a person is REALLY a Christian they aren’t barbaric and cause harm and misery.
No, but they’re ignorant. It’s the same as adults still believing in the Easter bunny and tooth fairy. By the way, the universe is older than 6,000 years. There was no Ark with 2 of every animal. There was no virgin birth. There is no omnipotent god who is is hiding from all of us, but demanding so much. My advice to any Christians is to grow up and realize the value of truth. No what you know, know what you don’t know. That’s a good start. Faith only exists because of lack of evidence. Have faith in yourself, not in the invisible.
Overrun —
I absolutely love this post and 100% agree.
To believe that an ark carried two of every animal and a woman gave birth without ever having sex is pretty silly.
Thank you, Friend in Wyoming. I appreciate your post. Do not worry about me. I am strong in my faith. I just want to help expose Scientology so others don’t get trapped in it. God Bless you my friend and God Bless Mike and Leah for doing the Lord’s work.
Minnesota,
P.S. I have never read Marc Headley’s book “Blown for Good”. I am embarassed to admit this but I am just not much of a reader ever since I had to get reading glasses. But I would heartily recommend you watch the Headley’s episode of Leah Remini and the Aftermath if you have not already seen it.
I’m also certain you will very much enjoy Marc Headley’s book (even though I have never read it) because Marc has a fabulous sense of humor and both Marc and Claire are extremely interesting and loveable people. If you have watched all of the Aftermath episodes, I’m guessing you know what I mean about the episode featuring the Headleys. That episode and the one featuring Valerie Haney are just fantastic. I have watched them many times and never grow tired of those episodes. Mike’s episode is really excellent too. I can never get enough of any program where someone gives the finger to the TWERP,
O/T. Jordan Harbringer Show Podcast: Leah Remini l Surviving Hollywood and Scientology.
https://www.jordanharbinger.com/leah-remini-surviving-hollywood-and-scientology/
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Leah Remini (@leahremini) is an actor, producer, host of People Puzzler on The Game Show Network, co-host of podcast Scientology: Fair Game, and co-author of Troublemaker: Surviving Hollywood and Scientology.
What We Discuss with Leah Remini:
What Scientology is, how it came about, and why it’s so dangerous.
The lengths the Scientology organization has gone through to protect itself from the government and its disillusioned apostates.
How Leah and her Fair Game co-host Mike Rinder have survived the stalking, harassment, and threats of post-Scientology life.
What die-hard Scientologists really believe.
How Scientology recruits and retains its A-list celebrity lineup.
And much more…
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Very interesting interview. Really enjoyed this.
Interesting Leah gave as an example to ask when questioning a celebrity, “Where was Mary Kahn lying?”
My husband’s ex boyhood friend who has disconnected from us and thrown several of his own family and “best friends” under the bus for an “Atta Boy!” from OSA, was asked that question when it was verified he had watched that episode. He admitted that I did not lie but said it didn’t matter, that I “committed Treason against the Church of Scientology” when I appeared on the Leah Remini show. This is the fear-based mindset of a member of the church of scientology. This is part of the “layers” that Yashar mentioned regarding scientology. People have to understand the layers.
Excellent Interview! Yashar has got scientology down.
“Education.” The word of the interview.
Sorry, but two commercials in I decided it wasn’t worth the time. Whomever came up with the idea that starting podcasts with commercials was an advertising idiot. Think about how you use the radio, if you hit a commercial, you keep punching until you get content. Start with content, get them interested, then hit them over the head with ads.
Hit forward 30 sec until the interview is on.
That’s what I do! I’d rather hit that button than miss all this info!!
PS. If this is THE Mary Kahn, my heart breaks for you and your family. I’m standing with you!
Thanks Krystal. 🙂
There is also playback speed control indicated by the “1x” button. Almost all podcasts and YouTube videos are perfectly intelligible at 1.5 playback speed.
Excellent point! I listen to all podcasts at 1.5. Occasionally, I have to rewind by 10 seconds to listen to something twice. But that happens extremely rarely.
For anyone else who can’t seem to find the Volume Control on certain links to these podcasts, you may want to try this one. The Volume Control is always available at this link:
http://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-scientology-fair-game-68514402
Excellent episode, thanks and all power to Yashar and all others working to hold the ‘criminal organisation’ to account.
I feel very foolish because I cannot find this podcast anywhere. I am in the Eastern time zone and it is now 11:45 PM on Monday March 22 and I have tried all the usual sites but I’m unable to find this edition of the podcast.
Perhaps I missed something obvious? Or maybe there was a message somewhere saying it would be delayed?
It drops after midnight. Usually is available by 00:20 or so on all platforms. Some show up more quickly than others.
I first found Operation Clambake around 2005, after seeing some stupid $cientology ad in a magazine. That place is quite the rabbit hole and it eventually led me to Tony Ortega and Running Scared. Also a great resource for finding the wily clam.
I love how $cientology can’t hide behind its previously secret sacraments and how Tom Cruise himself has put a few big nails into the $cieno coffin.
It seems like every day and in every way, these fools find yet another way to drive a nail into their own coffin. I believe the reason is because they all live in this one tiny bubble, they get no perspective on any issues except for the perspective they created. That is one of the biggest reasons I enjoy participating in this struggle. It is often so enjoyable to watch these thugs take a big hammer and whack themselves in the head over and over again. They are living in the 21st century according to the policies and guidelines developed in the 20th century – and they are PROUD of this! It is to laff and enjoy!
I see it as kind of like “inbreeding”. You know, like when brothers and sister breed or first cousins breed, the resulting children usually suffer terrible kinds of birth defects. At the very least, their mental prowess is usually seriously lacking.
Wow Mike. You are really doing a fantastic job exposing Scientology. I tune in daily to see what is happening and you are picking up some serious momentum. David Miscavige may want to consider finding a bluebird motor home, getting a IV drip for his Macallan Scotch and firing up those cans.
His Body Thetan’s and Clusters are all howling.
DM will need more than a hot water enema when his prison mates get through with putting in justice to that thug.
I love these podcasts you and Leah are doing. It is just amazing work to gather up all these people and reveal what Scientology does not want you to hear. The truth about L Ron Hubbard and this cult.
Leah Remini is kicking some serious Scientology ass as well. Thank you Leah.
You guys rock. THANK YOU. Thank you. THANK YOU!
The cover up of crimes David Miscavige and his cult does daily is not longer hidden. The light of truth is shining brightly on them exposing it for what it has always been, a very dangerous cult.
Thank you Yashar Ali, for helping expose this criminal organization masquerading as a religion and hiding behind the religious cloak as they destroy lives daily.
Just recently watched the 2015 HBO Going Clear documentary and several of Leah Remini’s show, just want to say you’re an inspiration to keep fighting this evil organization, and it is the mark of true character to not just say your previous positions helping the church were wrong, but to dedicate yourself to correcting the wrongs committed by that church. I cannot WAIT to jump on board and help remove the tax-exempt status on Scientology! The whole institution needs to be brought down, brick by brick. Cheers to you, thank you for all you do Mike, excited to hear the podcast.
A large network of people is needed to take down Scientology. Welcome Yashar.
George,
WE are the “large network”. But only one “person”(the jury’s still out ) is necessary to take down the organization currently representing itself as scientology. DM is doing a WONDERFUL job of it all on his own; stats flat and crashed at zero and no longer published or even mentioned. Instead other random numbers are thrown out as “stats” with nothing to compare them to, nor is there a described connection of them to organizational health and vitality. Even the membership numbers are described by a nebulous “millions” if they are mentioned at all. And they’re almost laughably easy to DISprove; by looking in the idle orgs, themselves, from the periodic poll of religious affiliation and most censuses which tabulate reported religious affiliation. There are more “Pastafarians” in the US than self-described scientologists world-wide.
Pastafarianism is at least FUN. scientology is a DRAG and a drain of vitality & wealth.
Jere,
Do not understand then how he survives. If I was a member in close contact, I would throw him into the street.