With Tony and Marc Headley recently in New York
We welcome our old friend Tony Ortega back to the Fair Game podcast to talk about the current state of scientology, their ongoing financial crimes and the devastation COVID 19 has wrought on their information control. Tony is a gold mine of information about the cult, and our chat was no exception.
He documents the world of scientology on his daily blog: The Underground Bunker.
Tony’s two books on scientology:
We talk about Miscavige’s Pandemic bulletin of March 2020:
Scientology’s Stay Well booklets
The infamous Decon 7 hazmat outfits
The lighter side of the hazmat brigade:
The recent series of “Insider” blog posts at The Underground bunker — if you click on the title it will take you to the original story:
INSIDER: Scientology has been devastated by the pandemic and is coming apart at the seams
INSIDER: How Scientology’s ‘Ideal Org’ scam works, and how members are victimized by it
INSIDER: What the pandemic and its protocols have looked like from inside Scientology
INSIDER: David Miscavige has one more trick planned to disguise Scientology’s sad state
And this is the series of Chase Wave Blog Posts:
DOCUMENT LEAK: Did the ‘Chase Wave’ cause a blacklisting of Scientology?
INSIDER: How the ‘Chase Wave’ began, and how it crashed, leaving Scientology in chaos
Another Scientology ‘Chase Wave’ eyewitness drops by, and brings a check
Another ‘Chase Wave’ witness, and Scientology’s ‘ludicrous’ money grab!
Bert Schippers on The Aftermath: Season 3 Episode 5 Ideal Orgs
My recent post about the leaks from NY org, including their finances and graphs: NY Org leaks
Mark Fladd on The Aftermath: Season 3 Episode 6 The Collection Agency
Please someone help me out if you can before i go mad lol
I hope someone can refresh my memory, i read a while back somewhere manye on tonys blog, was it during the court case of gabe cazarez possibly where there was the whole back and forth of between COS where there was so much spectacle about the fact of if DM was or was not captain of the sea org? I obviously noticed that the covid bulletin tony got copy of was signed as firstly by captain DM. I remember the COS argued firecly that he was not a captain of the sea org and never had referred to himself as such. They threw a strop every time the word captain was used with regards to him. They were so adamant that he didn’t have this title and there was speculation that this would be because DM wouldn’t want to be tagged as the leader of the sea org for several reasons such as being able to charge him on certain counts. I’m sorry it was a while ago I read this and I can’t for the life of me drag up the important details but I just would hope that this notice is flagged up with regards to this. The fact he refers to himself as captain just 2 years ago could be a huge deal? Mabye nothing? Ahhhhhhh damn my foggy memory
https://tonyortega.org/2018/09/06/finally-captain-david-miscaviges-faux-military-scientology-ribbons-described-and-decoded/
So after some digging the only reference I can find on this is above. Seems it was during a trial in 2013 with attorney Ray Jeffrey, Tony was there in court too blogging. Mabye something or mabye nothing but my mind insisted I tell someone lol
Much love ❤️
look forward to this podcast, the unbreakable miss lovely was a brilliant read I couldn’t put it down. Tony’s blog is unbelievable, love the daily SCN posts and the links to source its great! keep up the good work
Wasn’t it a female FBI agent that brought down the NXIVM cult?
the Vow was a great documentary, the similarities between Nxivm and SCN are shocking
it actually makes sense that the ideal orgs would be designed to raise a bunch of money in the short term. That’s the only way staff Scn-ists are able to think – from Thursday 2 Pm to Thursday 2 PM. Just get the stats up this week. Next week? Not even a thought, until next week. That’s why they’re always ending up with unusual solutions, like Chase waves. Only one significant staff member ever thought long term (Jeff Hawkins), and they purged him right the hell out of Scientology.
Does Scientology use Zoom? If not, why?
Thanks for a great podcast. I grin every time Leah gets fired up and drops a series of F bombs – reminds me of my days in NY and NJ.
I can understand politicians and law enforcement ignoring Scn’s crimes (financial and otherwise) but it’s hard to believe that a credit card company hasn’t gone after them for fraud. A friend got behind on his credit account in the late 90’s and they went full sleaze. After 2 years and many payments his $2500 debt ballooned to almost $8000. You’d think all of those Scn charge backs would result in a lawsuit if not criminal charges.
Tony Ortega and Mike Rinder.
What a treat !
Something to raise the spirits in this dark time of the Ukraine War.
Great appreciation to you both.
Yes! I love this. It’s so incredible how Mike went from the top of the $cientology criminal organization to being friends with Tony.
It must make Miscavage livid; that makes me happy.
Isn’t there usually a link to the podcast in the article?
Yes I add it after it goes live (add it tomorrow morning)
Haha, got it. I got a little antsy to hear this one.
Did LRH not state that scientology was a way to not deal with sickness again? Seems I read that in several places how the “tech” would protect you from diseases. If this had been true then scientologist would not be bothered by a simple pandemic now would they?
Just wondering how that worked having not been “in.”
In scientology, illness from viral infection occurs due to one/more of the following:
1. An engram/implant has “keyed-in” (aka a biological response to a post-hypnotic trigger).
2. PTS to an SP (connection to a sociopath compromises the body’s immune system).
3. PTS body thetans (one or more spiritual parasites are connected to a sociopath, compromising the body’s immune system).
Yet there has been no effort to “de-PTS” the public. No auditing delivered online. Not even a campaign to get beginners co-auditing dianetics.
And (3) is confidential, known only to OTVs and above. So that little nugget is kept hidden, despite its perceived value in alleviating suffering. Which is cruel, imho.
What they have had/seen is:
– Miscavige raging on about “planetary bullbaiting” and mass hysteria, only to have orgs boarded up and left temporarily deserted.
– Purif centres being fogged with chemical decontaminants.
– Pics of clears and OTs fully masked, gloved and socially distanced.
– Sea Org members being forced to get mRNA injections.
These are all major outpoints that will arguably have repercussions amongst believers who expected a more robust, Hubbardian response.
A short cut to all was to move agrarian community in Midwest and start poultry and dairy farming.
Imagine a world of chicken ,beef and lamb ( kosher & Halal) free from psychosomatic illness.
Crystal clear Milk, butter and cheese giving new level of pleasure.
Since, Harry Potter series came to lime light, Cults followers find more High Tech stuff in it. An avenue hasn’t been explored yet.
It’s time to replace Iphone with magical (I) wand.
It’s not me ,it’s written on the wall 🤣😂😉
Those photos of the decon-carrying COVID busters alway give me a huge chuckle. I swear, they look like something right out of “Ghostbusters.” I’m sure those clams in their hazmat suits have no idea how absolutely ridiculous they look.
Ghostbusters.. lol! I was laughing too. I mean, they don’t even know how embarrassing they are.
Send Vladimir Putin a Way To Happiness book. That should end the invasion.
If only! Lol. Vladi wouldn’t give up any control.