Just to make a record, every now and then I like to publish the names in searchable form of the clubbed seals that form the Flag OT Committee so if anyone Googles them they might find their names listed here.
As a side note, there are lot of former SO members on this list.
This is one of the fairly recent weekly commendations that are sent out:
The following OT Members are COMMENDED for reporting their stats for W/E 01/30/2020:
Dave says
ANGELICA DE SANTIS any relation to our Governor Ron De Santis?
WhatWall says
So sad to see so many familiar names. Will they ever wake up?
Peggy L says
Just sad from where I sit for so many people working tirelessly for absolutely nothing that will benefit themselves or anyone else except DM.
Get Out while you still have some time to just live your life the way you want to. It may be difficult but nothing like what you are going through now.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
A COMMENDATION for merely turning in their STATS!? Have staff been failing to do so? IIRC, if you DIDN’T turn in your stats on time, the penalties were severe. Turning them in, by itself, is no big deal. That they were UP is of course expected and only garners a “normal” condition as a usual thing. HOW could turning them in be anything to take take special note about? SOMEthing doesn’t make sense. Obviously, I haven’t figured out exactly what it is which doesn’t make sense.
Aquamarine says
I saw that too, jere! I mean, big deal, they turned in their stats…apparently it IS a big deal though! Never mind the quality of the stats themselves. Commendation merely for “trying” and “being in comm” – never mind what they actually PRODUCED. Essentially, all they have to do is show up and then do SOMETHING and turn in the results. Wow! LRH, LRH, wherever you are, do you believe this? Seriously, I can just imagine the blistering HCOPL he would write in response to this!
PeaceMaker says
With even the LRH birthday event cancelled, I’d love to see the OT committee minutes for this past week, and this coming one, or anything else revealing of how they’re dealing with a situation so obviously beyond their control – in the face of their beliefs about being masters of MEST and not constrained by reality.
I can’t imagine how they can cope in terms of their worldview, except something borderline delusional like blaming it all on a “who” of the evil psychs pulling off some vast conspiratorial plot. But individuals are still responsible for their own “stats” in the dogma of Hubbard’s perversely unrealistic system, so how do they not punish everyone, regardless?
An situation like this has got to be a real strain on an organization already approaching some sort of breaking point, and with a lot of members already on the fence.
LoosingMyReligion says
PeaceMaker. This is the point. How long will a lot of staff and audiences still get hypnotized by all this PR of how much they are winning and the great expansion? As you say many are now in the balance and are tempted to open their eyes. And this current situation I hope will help them.
Aquamarine says
Hey, Peacemaker, the bottom line is “How did they pull this IN?”
Of course, I’m being funny but not completely.
I recall at an event right after 9/11 a local Sea Org guy telling me, essentially, that they (the Sea Org ) “allowed” 9/11 to happen. The Sea Org was responsible, basically, was what he was telling me. I think they were told that by their seniors.
So its not too far-fetched to me that now Sea Org could be being told that they’re responsible for the coronavirus.
Aquamarine says
After writing the above it just occurred to me how hellish it must be to be on staff or in the SO at this time, given the Birthday Event being cancelled. I suspect they’re getting blamed, big time. On the bright side, though: maybe the make-wrong will be so unjust and over the top that some of them will cognite and blow, or at least start the routing out process.
nomnom says
Looks like massive, straight up expansion.
Definitely 47x where x = negative number.
Keep lying to yourselves OSA monitors.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
That’s47X “straight up ONLY if you’re standing on your head — OR live in the Southern Hemisphere, or Davey’s tiny little bubble of an alternate Universe.
otherles says
Vacations happen, live with it.
AnEx says
Amazing. A commendation just for reporting in.
“We are so happy you haven`t left us yet so you get a commendation for that”, he said as the ship keeps sinking.
AnEx
LoosingMyReligion says
An Ex. Commendations? What cool isn’t it? Thus ot eligibilities, field auditing and fsm actions and therefore money are more free and allowed by the ‘church’. So cool.
Sarita Shoemaker says
The crew of the Poseidon Adventure.
Looks like Daphna got hitched!
Maybe we should all offer up the names of the known OT’s that did not report their stats. Shame on them…
Old Surfer Dude says
I say slap the shit out of them! But, hey, that’s just me.
Jane Doe 2 says
If you’re on OT VII or an OT VIII, you are ordered to join an OT Committee and be active on it if you want to be able to continue on your services. So I wonder how many of these names just grudgingly do the minimum required so as to “look like a good Scn” or “stay on the level” or “be UTR convincingly.”??
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Sarita, *I* didn’t bother sending in my “stats”, though life in retirement-land is going along swimmingly. ONE stat I like is how LATE in the day it is before I check out what’s not happening in scientology’s bubble of unreality. At noon, I was still in bed flirting with my wife. THAT’s a positive stat in MY universe, Twerp™!
YOU might enjoy sending her to purgatory for merely getting those tasks done which you’d been bitching and moaning about, and might be getting some jollies by cheating on her with (whomever), but I can attest that keeping the romance alive is well worth the effort.
Shereefe says
Sorry for this but, I hate the “clubbed seals” reference. Seals don’t sign up to be clubbed. Scientologists do. Born into Scientology , I guess, would be an exception. The term is insulting to the seals.
Old Surfer Dude says
I agree with you you 100%! It’s just barbaric!!! And the parents approve of it! The only thing I can say is…FUCK YOU!!! Really, just FUCK YOU!!!
Shereefe says
Sorry Old Surfer Dude if my comment upset you. Mike was referencing Scientologists who hand over all the money. In my head, that’s who I was referencing. They literally don’t get clubbed for this. Seals were and the practice happens for NO reason. I love the ocean and all of marine life. The “clubbed seal” reference is disturbing to me. Again, I apologize if I upset anyone. Your saying “Fuck You” to me (twice) is reason enough for me to leave the blog. Now that the abuses are known to the public, I wish you all the best in shutting down Scientology. Good luck everyone.
LoosingMyReligion says
Shereef.
In my opinion, you did not get really upset anyone because you did not say anything that could do it in the least.
So it goes without saying that his response was slightly inappropriate.
Of course we can’t always all agree but it stops there.
exbritscino says
I don’t think that the “Fuck You” was aimed at you. It was aimed at the parents who allow their kids to become part of the cult.
It’s a quote from Tom Cruise with reference to people opposed to the cult.
Aquamarine says
Shereefe, I think you misunderstood OSD. I don’t believe he was saying “Fuck you” to YOU. His post was not very clear but Old Surfer Dude is a gentle soul who assuredly loves marine life as you do! Perhaps he misunderstood your post also. Look, I don’t know how exactly but for whatever its worth I’d bet money that this is a misunderstanding of SOME sort 🙂
Aquamarine says
And Shereefe, I’m a passionate animal/fish lover/tree hugger. I’m on EVERYBODY’S list. You wouldn’t believe the mail. Anyway, I think OSD totally misunderstood you which is why he responded like that.
LoosingMyReligion says
Old sufer dude.
Hello??? One has the right to say what he wants. Period. If you don’t agree just say it cooler. Or just don’t.
Old Surfer Dude says
I guess I lost my religion.
LoosingMyReligion says
Got that. And this could be the least.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Shereefe, that IS a valid point. *I* prefer “clapping clams”, myself.
LoosingMyReligion says
Shereef. P.S. I live near the sea and I understand the feeling it generates.
LoosingMyReligion says
I was wondering what are all these OTs doing now? Many are Italian. Here the whole nation is in quarantine. It is forbidden to leave the house except for specific things.
Are you waiting as usual for something to change and then take some credit?
Given that, scientology and pubs stats are crashing across Italy and Europe and since each staff is responsible for their own stats and one can’t blame anything or anyone for his condition (for hubbard it’s always internal both ‘why’ and ‘who’ ), I’m really curious about know how these staff will apply their conditions.
While the ots will have another commendation for reporting the stats (albeit with zero results).
Old Surfer Dude says
“I was wondering what are all these OTs doing now?”
They’re wondering where there Powers went to. Bwahahahahahahahahahahah!!!
LoosingMyReligion says
Laughing. They know very well there are no powers. But they can’t say it otherwise the violate some confidential bulletin. Scandrels.
Old Surfer Dude says
I like watching them squirm when they ask about Super Powers! My favorite pastime!
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
OSD, Perhaps they’re “twigging” that their Sooper PowerZ don’t really work and they were conned out of ALL that Money and needlessly endured all that pain they suffered? AND how stoopid those VIIIs must feel as they endure yet ANOTHER bout of Upper Indocs. Once was too much for me, so NEVER again!
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m with you, jere!
Murmur says
Is Howard Becker still alive ?
Heard he may have passed away.
Unfortunately not a loss.
Old Surfer Dude says
Sounds like Howard Becker was a real asshole! He will be forgotten.
LoosingMyReligion says
I know some of them. I didn’t knew they left the sea org to become field auditors or thing like this.
They get commended for reporting their stats? So lovely to hear how things are changed since I left.
TrevAnon says
Hey Mike,
I like lists too. 🙂
https://whyweprotest.wikia.org/wiki/Former_Church_of_Scientology_members_who_have_spoken_out