They are sparing no expense trying everything to find the leaks from the OTC, especially Flag.
After the failure of the multiple separate versions comes this next attempt failure.
An important programming note: because what is contained in these OTC Minutes is pretty much copy-text week to week (except more and more details are being eradicated) I am not going to publish any for a while. I might do some in a month or two all at once for comparison purposes. This is so I don’t waste a lot of time on these essentially useless reports, but more importantly so the eager beavers in OSA won’t know whether they have succeeded in stemming the leak. They can sit in mystery wondering what might be coming in the future. It’s making it too easy for them right now as they know that nothing they are doing is working. A diet of mystery sandwich for a while will supplement their rice and beans.
In the meantime, here are the latest minutes and some detail about their newest efforts to find the traitors.
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014
From: Flag OT Committee <depchair@flagotc.org>
Subject: Message of the Week & April 21 Minutes
Dear OT Committee Members,
We are piloting a new format to make it easier for all to receive and read through the Message of the Week. This is the first run so please do let me know your feedback.
Sincerely,
Anita, Dir Comm
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[ deleted here trackable links to various JPEGs (some promo, and a JPEG of the minutes) ]
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Interesting they are still pushing the line about ensuring people are staying in the “great” Flag hotels. One would think that by now these would be “ideal” hotels?
And gosh, I thought that the massive, unprecedented distribution of WTH in Venezuela had ALREADY brought peace and tranquility to this “troubled nation”? I am sure if you look back at the video of when that Venezuelan celebrity had been given the IAS Freedom Medal it said that right in there.
But don’t be concerned, because Javier assured everyone that the IAS is “saving lives.” Hmm, I think he got a bit mixed up, as I have never seen a life saved, but I have seen quite a number ruined with people in desperate straits after having been bankrupted following their forced “donations” to the IAS.
Ms.P says
Arte Maren? I can’t believe he’s still around. Isn’t that the same Arte Maren that fell on his sword back in the day of the GO and the raid and ended up doing time in jail? If so, poor guy, I guess he really is imbedded into the concrete walls of the bubble dwellers.
Aquamarine says
As re OSA: “A diet of mystery sandwich for a while will sublet their rice and beans”.
You never disappoint, Mike 🙂
Aquamarine says
Edit: “Supplement, not sublet”. Can’t laugh and type at the same time.
Jens TINGLEFF says
Sending the minutes ’round as JPEGs. And still with little differences, no doubt. Too bad for us Internet people that no-one has heard of OCR and Photoshop and too bad there is for sure no more than one leak…
someguy says
yeah the moles are reporting facts, there’s your problem…
Deep Six says
When OSA Flag was briefing all the staff and public about why they were to vote NO on the Clearwater Aquarium being moved to Downtown CW, a primary reason was that Flag was NOT a “Div 6” org. Meaning Flag does not cater to raw Div 6 public, therefore the increase in foot traffic that the aquarium would bring to downtown CW would be OF NO BENEFIT to Flag, and would in fact only be a nuisance at best, and a security risk at worst.
So why the hell is Flag holding a PE Course on the Base?
The only purpose of a PE Course is to INTRODUCE people to Scientology. That’s all.
The only reason to hold such an activity to would be pad stats. Of course the bubble-dwellers don’t even see this as odd.
Services no longer exist for explciti purposes or for explicit audiences. Attendance for such services is no longer for any actual personal gain. Attendance is only to “flow power” to COB or to the Captain FLB or some such thing.
Even event attendance is promoted as being necessary to “flow power”.
BRIDGE PROGRESS has even been relegated to a similar level of importance.
I personally had bubble-dweller last week regging me to re-do Purif & Objectives. I explained how I had no actual interest in my case at all, and never really have, and that I’m sure one day when I’m interested, I’ll do something about it. This person agreed (of course) that he felt the same way, but that competent and effective people “like us” who have no attention on their case (his words, not mine) should do Bridge not for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others around us and to set a good example, etc.
WTF?
This guy was literally telling me to do Bridge on an other-determinism; one of the exact definitions of PTS.
No interest in the Bridge? No problem! Just do it anyway to “flow power” to the idea that “doing Bridge” is what a good Scientologist does.
What mental gymnastics folks have to do these days to make things make sense.
COB forcing his wacky bogus WHYs down the flock’s throats has certainly created a condition whereby the people left absolutely HAVE to do these weird mental gymnastics in order to make it all make sense.
That’s where the aspect of mind-control starts to slip in. One has to make it all make sense – and believe it – in order to justify one’s continued involvement in the group, and in order to keep ones ARC level up with the rest of the group. One is, in essence, brain-washing oneself to keep the Matrix feeling comfortable.
A great quote is something like, “It wouldn’t be mind-control if someone felt they were mind-controlled”
Pepper says
“ruined people in desperate straits after having been bankrupted following their forced donations to the IAS.”
Yes, and don’t forget about those poor souls who gave up their pension plans too. They are probably now living on the dole and buying dog food to eat in their golden years. All for the life-saving, oops life-sucking IAS.
remoteviewed says
Mike,
Loved the art work.
Spy Vs Spy was one of my favorite sections in Mad Mag.
Guess I could say how much George Bush II reminded me of Alfred E. Neuman but I’ll move on.
OSA’s probably tearing the Lunatic Fringe AKA OTCs apart trying to find the mole.
The leaks we’re are getting from the Church of Sieve-ology are probably the tip of the iceberg compared to the interrogatories and internal memos that are flying around.
I mean if you took the policy on Counter-Espionage and read it backwards like they do with everything else over there. You’d probably get the sorry ass state of the Org today.
Their PR area control totally sucks and now their actual security is a total failure.
It seems like CIA they can only keep their operations a secret from their public with their agitprop.
They seem to have an idiotic faith in hush mail’s PGP encryption which really doesn’t matter if some mole has access to the clear text message.
Well anyway. It’s pretty much par for the course of what I’d expect from the “False III Club”.
racingintheblood39 says
remoteviewed, this IS the Spy Vs. Spy section of Mad Mag!
remoteviewed says
Roger that RIB,
This is definitely a case of art imitating life. 🙂
outraged says
omg, I cannot keep up with your posts Mr. Rinder. YOu are on speed dial.
Down With LIttle Fists!!
Cooper J Kessel says
He is definitely down but he is still twiching.
LDW says
I see that Murray Marvin will be teaching people how to use the Minus Awareness Characteristics more effectively. That’s surprising. Seems they are using them just fine. They might want to learn how to use the higher ones better, but I guess they just aren’t aware of that.
Interesting that Flag is delivering the Anatomy of the Human Mind Course. I guess Tampa org and all the local missions and field auditors and their satellite locations suck at getting new people in, so Flag will just bypass the whole international org structure and handle the situation personally. Good luck with that.
indie8million says
LDW – Yeah, I saw that. Made me sad to see that Murray is still going to bat for the wrong team. Funny, he’s a pretty high toned being. His abilities could have been put to very good use by teaching the sheeple what a true, high toned being acts like.
But that wouldn’t do. Then the could compare that ideal scene with the existing, NON-IDEAL scene and have a cognition. Flag wouldn’t want that, now would they? 😉
Scott Campbell says
It’s interesting to me that after all of this time, David Miscavige still does not know how a thetan works. A thetan’s greatest ability is the ability to withhold. And a thetan’s greatest attribute is the ability to identify with truth.
The “reductio ad absurdum” here is that Miscavige stays the course despite overwhelming evidence that his flock can indeed differentiate between differences, similarities and identities despite their still somewhat intransigent insistence on “being right”.
David Miscavige is nothing more than a circuit. Perhaps one day the lost soul connected to his body will truly reach “need of change” and “demand for improvement” again and start making up for the damage he has done.
indie8million says
Hey Scott. With all that little bastard put you through, you are still kind enough to think or hope that one day “the lost soul connected to his body will truly reach “need of change”…”
Maybe that’s why you made it through everything with your sanity intact. Bravo Brother.
I have a feeling though that he’s still going to be spouting his circuits and being right even when the steam roller of absolute truth and jail time runs over him till his tiny little eyes bug out. That’s the most disheartening thing about it. He is so restimulated and psychotic that he may not come to present time for many, many lifetimes. But right now, his circuits are set to “kill” not stun.
Who’s got the dip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSTL3AidX4o
Scott Campbell says
indie8million,
Well, that’s the problem. Is he capable of taking responsibility for his actions? It’s kind of a “can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube” sort of thing.
He’s so busy trying to get others to stop him that he doesn’t have any space to gain a perspective on himself. No safe space.
indie8million says
Hey Scott – Yes, as far as taking responsibility for his actions, he would have to be aware of them first. Then he would have to confront them. Can you imagine the madness that would go on if he were locked in a room, confronted by all he had overts on? Talk about making someone guilty of an overt! WOW!
But that’s the thing, Scott. He may need a number of lifetimes with a rock and some good sedatives to come out of it. But YOU are hoping that he does. That’s the difference between you and he.
Carcha says
Scott – Wanted to let you know your post led to some cogs for me, resolving some stuff. My reply got too lengthy to post, but essentially it resolves the issue of vengeance (for me) to consider that any being must make peace with himself. Indie8million puts it more poetically, and perhaps more clearly, e.g. “the steam roller of absolute truth.” LRH mentioned (somewhere) words similar to ~~ The only horror of it is that you can never be anybody else. ~~ I think his sense of humor is vastly underrated. An appreciation of what Scientology is, and people who are serious about it. – Carcha
racingintheblood39 says
Hey Carcha, looooong time! 🙂 Perhaps the best antidote to all that has happened/ will happen/ MUST happen!!!! is/was within easy reach/access to us all along? … Just simply NOT being ‘serious’ about Scientology,( or anything else we ‘care’ about ) If we wish to keep our lightness of ‘BE-ing’, intact and functioning optimumly, then “Laughter really is the best Medicine.” :
🙂 –Calvin.
Scott Campbell says
Carcha,
That quote, “The only horror of it is that you can never be anybody else.” has one operative word in it – “be”. David Miscavige cannot “be”- only the circuit that we identify as David Miscavige “is”. But a circuit is not a being, it’s an electronic mockup (substitute being) that one uses to operate in the physical universe. It’s almost always based on a Service Facsimile based on an Evil Purpose rooted in a Confusion.
One who “is” himself can “be” anyone or anything at cause. One who is “out of valence” – a circuit, cannot.
indie8million says
+1
indie8million says
Thank you, Carcha. Well said yourself.
racingintheblood39 says
“Oh no! Nooo! Fellow OTC reptillian troglodytes, please tell me it’s not happening?”
“Please tell me you don’t see what I’m see-ing?”
“It just can’t be.. can it?”
“If it is, we’re as good as RPF incinerator dust!”
“Heaven help us!!!… our secret info gathering green goo, has actually leaked out of the cracks of our heavily fortified (fartified) fortress.”
” Look here on the screen! Please tell me that isn’t a mini-stream of our secretly patented, molecular video containing, info harvesting, ‘COBbletigoo’, snaking its way along the roadside approach to HQ?”
” Okay, okay, this is just not happening!.. it cannot be! It MUST not be!”
“Can you imagine those bitter, twisted, C/I, squirrel apostates & critics, getting hold of our secret weapon.?” Just when we’re poised for the release of the greatest, new, secret monumental breakthrough since the atomic bomb fell on Hiroshima?….GAT 3?”
…..Blaring sound of air raid sirens, send a sudden shock wave around all mandatory loudspeakers,mounted at every CO$ controlled facility, world wide…!!!!….!!!!….!!!!
…….’fraid they’re onto you, in more ways than you knew, dear Leader……
Cooper J Kessel says
“Heaven help us!!!… our secret info gathering green goo, has actually leaked out of the cracks of our heavily fortified (fartified) fortress.”
I assume you are referring to COBs shorts?
MJ says
Thought it was his nose.
racingintheblood39 says
Keerect on both counts! Each is soooo long, that he has great difficulty, in preventing hisself from tripping, with each step he takes !!!
Roy Macgregor says
These minutes are SO revealing.
Look at the stats they report. If you get past the fluff, there is only ONE production stat being reported – funds raised for ideal orgs and IAS. There is no “books sold” no “people started on service” none of that shit. They report one and only one stat – how much cash. And of course they don’t give a number.
This speaks volumes. They email this out to their 257 members and it says “if you are an OT in Flag’s field the ONLY thing we care about is your CASH and your friends CASH”. That is not us making that- that is the point they are making to their own people but having only one stat.
They also announce that out of 257 reporting members, only 4 completed any kind of course. And actually they have more than 257 total members, not all report each week.
These are the MOST active, the BEST students, they live in Clearwater specifically so they can do Scientology. And at very best 1.5% of them complete anything on a weekly basis. But they boast that 95% are actually on service. Huh?
I think the lemmings are scared.
The lemmings feel instinctively something is wrong.
They can’t stop, but many of them are trying to slow down even further. They are “on course” in their local mission for 15 minutes every other Tuesday night.
When some doofuss commits a small sin and is forced by the MAA to make a donation to the IAS, at least 23 of this friends and co-workers all report this on “their” weekly report to the OTC.
Some lemmings are trying to go even slower. But that’s what MAAs are for. Keep everyone moving toward the cliff.
MJ says
Dave’s eulogy: “He taught his mob just how to rob, but now the cob’s done lost his job.”
Old Surfer Dude says
Master, I am but a young grasshopper. Please teach me the way with words. Even if I am unworthy…
MJ says
Close your eyes grasshopper and imagine Davey in a hissy fit with smoke coming out both ears while turning beet red and the inspiration will come oh young one.
Jose Chung says
David Miscavige goes ape shit crazy (or more than normal ape shit crazy)
when the unwashed masses discover his future plans.
KEEP THE LEAKS GOING !!!!!!!
Ms. B. Haven says
Good Morning OSA!
I have a hot tip to pass along that all the Jokers & Degraders at Tony Ortega’s blog missed recently. In a recent posting of the Sunday Funnies, there is a Sea Org recruiting poster shown featuring a young Jake Taufer as a bright and shiny new SO Telex Officer at CLO WUS.
http://tonyortega.org/2014/04/13/sunday-funnies-the-writers-of-the-future-and-more-success-stories/
Therein lies the solution to the problem with these nasty email leaks that Mike Rinder keeps posting. Instead of sending messages via email, just use telex technology! The reason this advanced form of communication from the dawn of the Information Age is still in use is because of the foresight of our Founder, L. Ron Hubbard. I’m sure he was able to predict the potential for the spread of entheta and suppression and the need to keep a lid on things. Telex was the answer then and it is the answer now. You can bet your ass that no bloggers on the fringes of the internet have access to telex tech. If the almost 10,000 OTs on Solo Nots were equipped with a fancy new telex machine, all internal communication problems would be solved. No more leaks. Sorry I don’t have any hot tips on how to eliminate the suppression of the evil internet, but I’m working on that. I think Vladamir Putin may have beat me out, but I sure that he had help being a former KGB guy and all…http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2014/04/25/vladamir-putin-calls-internet-a-cia-project-receives-scientology-medal-of-valor/
hiatus57 says
And of course the IAS will supply the telex machines at a discount price for two at $5000 a time.
Funny I thought the Telex was rather easy to hack, all you need is a Telnet number and the right equipment.
visitor says
There is always the option of doing brief summaries of OTC and other (multiple) emails received, and transliterating important ones- rewriting them in different words.
On another note, if the church was really expanding “straight up and vertical”, they would be transparent and release their statistics, and let the public attend important events instead of doing pre-clearance on everyone who attends. The church is cowering in fear of the truth: that DM is a monster and the church is hurting people instead of helping them.
MJ says
The Church of Sleaze Theology.
Old Surfer Dude says
Or the Church of Sleazeology. Either way you cut it, you lose.
MJ says
Squeeze theology also works.
indie8million says
All good but “Squeeze Theology” +1
MJ says
Agreed.
racingintheblood39 says
The Pope? With the soap? On a golden rope?Can’t cope? Without his dope?
Now you’ve just further upset some one who is off the scale of upsetting-ness!
flyonthewall says
God job keeping those OSA reptilian bastards on their toes Mike
Potpie says
I heard through the grapevine some data
about staying at Flag. I can’t exactly give
all the info but in short it sounds like at least
one person who provided places to stay for out
of towners was pulled into the org and either Comm
Eved or ordered to stop. This was how she made a portion
of her living….renting at decent rates for the poor saps
that have to come to Flag to endure a 6 month check.
Does anyone know about this?
MJ says
“Potpie, you don’t wanna go there.” – OSA Security, Planetary Police Division
Jose Chung says
Potpie,
Could be her last name is White. Rented shit cars ( mine had NO Brakes)
had a chain of homes she also rented to people released from C.W. jail and on parole .
Resulted in numerous police call outs sometimes armed confrontations
(cops come knocking with guns drawn)
This was my “Welcome to Flag Package”
UUUHHH Barf !!!!
Jose Chung says
Jenny White
Pepper says
Hi Jose,
I met Jenny of the Shitty Cars too. Lovely person who thinks her jalopies are all the rage for out of towners.
I had a family member rent out the penthouse at the Osceola and he didn’t know what Jenny was really about till he arrived and had to drive up to the Osceola to stay in the penthouse in a clunker. Two guys came running out to take the luggage and looked at the vehicle like WTF? We had quite a long hard laugh over that one. It was just like the The Beverly Hillbillies.
Cindy says
Another who rented rooms in her house was Pam Dimogenes Anderson, ex wife of Ian Anderson. She got in trouble for it but she continued to rent rooms to people coming for 6 month checks. She just went underground on it and kept it on the down low.
Potpie says
Thanks for the answers Jose and Cindy.
I don’t have a name. But if I were to guess
it would not be the White girl….that sounds
like an operation Flag would want to keep
going….more enturbulation, more auditing
to sell.
MJ….The fear of OSA PPD has me speechless.
Wait I will say something to them…..Bite My Ass!
MJ says
“Potpie you are truly incorrigible. There will be consequences. You have been warned.” – OSA Operative Dave, Jr.
prefertobeanon2 says
Cindy, do you mean THAT Ian Anderson–Jethro Tull?
Cindy says
Ha ha, no not THAT Ian Anderson. The one not as famous, field auditor from LA who moved to Clearwater and continued his field practice there until the church probably put the squeeze on him, and then he joined Tampa Org, but last I heard he was not on staff there anymore either. It was his ex wife who rented out rooms in their home to refreshers.
prefertobeanon2 says
Ah ok. Thanks Cindy. I guess I have been humming “Thick As A Brick” and “Skating on Thin Ice” all day for nothing…. well…. maybe not.
mwesten says
Keeping Scientologists Disaffected.
remoteviewed says
Potpie,
You mean the 6 month check that takes 8 months to a year to complete?
Cindy says
Or the OT VII completion check that takes a year?
Cooper J Kessel says
” I can’t exactly give
all the info but in short it sounds like at least
one person who provided places to stay for out
of towners was pulled into the org and either Comm
Eved or ordered to stop.”
Or done Demented Miscarriage style and beat until limp.
SILVIA says
PE Course at Flag? Really? They must be desperate for public and think this is the Why.
Good luck.
richardgrant says
Mike, what a shame they didn’t quote the exact “LRH issue” about getting Flag visitors to book into the Fort Harrison instead of renting cheaper accommodations or kipping for free with local acquaintances. I’m sure the Old Man waxed prophetically about this not-yet-existent problem.
At least they got to hear something brand-new. “Ideal Orgs in our area and around the world are needed”! Not only that, but “we will be holding events to help this cause”! I can practically feel the uptone vibe running through the crowd at this breaking news.
It’s awfully good of you to provide useful on-the-job-training for OSA staffers. Online security is an in-demand employment category, and this will look good on their resumes when they’ve blown and are seeking real-world employment. Though they might stumble a bit when they go all Tone 40 during the interview.
Great work as always.
Narapoid says
It seems that members on the OTC are working through ethics conditions and are “striking a blow” against the enemy of KSW. (OSA, this means you and corporate cult). I wonder what the big one is? It’l probably come out at FLAG DOWN.
Martin Padfield says
I’m surprised every OTC member hasn’t been sec-checked to within an inch of their lives yet. Or maybe they have….
Possibly the IAS IS saving lives – albeit not quite the way intended. The number of people who have been completely blown off lines or gone under the radar as a direct result of this malignant pernicious outfit has been in screaming affluence for quite some time now. They are able to wreak havoc on an ever decreasing number of people. If there are any leaks of 301c accounts data that show the IAS accounts it could sound the death knell of the IAS permanently – now that would be a blow for suppression!
MJ says
Hallelujah brother!
Old Surfer Dude says
+1
thegman77 says
I was sort of startled to see Kaye actually promoting a real course to get new bodies in the shop. Even though only the PE course, who knows what “miracles” might happen if they actually began teaching again? LOL
zemooo says
Isn’t using ‘Flag’ to do an introductory course like Personal Efficiency cutting into the lower class mOrgs business? How will the missions get revenue if ‘Flag’ takes it all? Or is that the new marketing plan?
MJ says
Who cares?
Cooper J Kessel says
What missions?
Gail Paige says
A PE course at Flag. WOW….the desperation deepens.
DollarMorgue says
Maybe I should change my alias to Extortion Racket? When all else falls away, what’s left?
A Mystery Sandwhich sounds like a nice change to beans and rice, and a lot healthier, too! Glad for the break – OTC minutes seem as tediously mind numbing as the meetings themselves.
MJ says
And Mike, how great is it that Debbie Sharp reminded us what we need to do to get our IAS donations stat up. I’m sure I speak for everyone here that we’re all just pleased as punch by this. It’s great to see someone taking responsibility for this humanitarian target and keeping the OTC members on purpose. Rock on Debbie!