OK, the bizarre just keeps getting more bizarre.
This Email came in over the weekend from Plymouth Org.
In the time honored tradition of Ideal Orgs/Super Power, they first announced they were buying the building in late 2009 and that it would be opened by May 2010. Then announced it was actually purchased in June 2010 and in December 2011 had still not submitted any PLANS to do the renovations. Apparently still nothing happening as they are holding a "raffle" for the "Ideal Org."
Now they are holding raffles — actually paying raffle "winners" money. This is a new twist. The winner's will probably get a Publisher's Clearing House style presentation with a video crew at their front doorstep!
And this is all being organized through the address of Peter Hodkin (Scientologist In House solicitor) who is apparently the front man for the raffle and email ask-offs…
From: Mighty Pirates Date:
13 April 2013 17:27:12 BST
To: aarrgh.plymouth@gmail.com
Subject: Oh Yes we do give a duck !
I am very pleased to announce that the Quack Duck Squad training is back on track.
They have been going absolutely quackers and making eggcelent progress in their aquacktic training program!
I will send you some pictures shortly but we have to be careful about them being turned in to spam!
SO! The race is on!
So here are the basics of the race:- To sponsor a duck in the race requires an Ideal Org donation of £50 or more to be paid in to Plymouth. You can have as many ducks as you want in the race. (obviously the more you have the greater your chances of winning the prizes.)
BONUSES
There are so many bonuses:-
Anything paid in to Plymouth for the Ideal Org qualifies even if it is a status completion, fulfilling a pledge etc it still counts on that and also gets you an entry!
ALSO for every 10 ducks you put in the race you get 2 bonus ducks free. That's right an extra 2 ducks racing in your colours thereby further increasing your chances of winning the prizes!
So you should aim to have your very own flock of ducks racing for you!
ALSO when you place your entries you can select your own racing number or numbers provided that number has not already been taken. ( 1st come first served on the numbers ). A
LSO our resident artist (and SSO) Cheryl will customise your duck or ducks to your own racing colours; if you arrange it with her; so your flock can stand out from the crowd.
THE PRIZES
The prizes are 1st Place winning duck's sponsor will get £1,000, 2nd place £500, 3rd place £250.
In the final analysis will you be able to sit down with your children and your children's children and say that you did give a duck?
Call us now on 01752 202150 and sponsor your duck!
Thank You
Mark
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“I am very pleased to announce that the Quack Duck Squad training is back on track.”
translation:
Golden Age of Tech II evolution is about to begin.
Anyone know anyne at the Discovery Channel? I'm absolutely sure that we could successfully pitch them on a new reality show – Saving the World Scientology Style. I'm sure the orgs would love the PR too, even the dwarf would bite (his tongue off.)
Ah the ratings, the laughter, the joy it would bring to wogs.
I must say I do feel for the poor SSO at Plymouth having to do duck decorating rather than helping her fellow staff members get trained & processed, but, hey, Duck Decor does fall under her hat, I'm sure there's gotta be a policy on it…
OMG! What the DUCK!!! I thought someone just made that up as a spoof! How hilarious, stupid, bizarre and unsurprising…
I'd also like to add another comment on the Duck Theme, to wit: the use of "duck", and "do you give a duck" etc is obviously a stupid pun on the F-word, and it just occurred to me how this is really in poor taste for a church – no church should be punning the F-word in any of their promo, it is SO out-PR.
I'm no prude but I just re-read this this duck promo from the viewpoint of a non-Scientologist knowing nothing whatsoever about the RCS or L Ron Hubbard, and what immediately communicated to me was. "What a bunch of oafs".
In fact, the RCS's fundraising activities are their own reality show. Honestly, think about it: no one never in the RCS would believe that this stuff actually goes on in a church. We should send this duck thing to every church and synagogue we know.
Just when I thought these fundraisers (and the associated emails) couldn't get any more moronic. Miscavige must be laughing uproarously in between slugs of Scotch.
Graduated, I've just read your post again. Interesting as re the "D-Trait" personality, and what you described after that as re those with cognitive dissonance who slowly come off of their indecisions, cognite and begin to quietly withdraw while maintaining a facade of agreement for the sake of family and business connections which are more important than "salvation" – this describes me to a T.
Remedy of Maybes
@Aquamarine: Thank you for duplicating and acknowledging my post regarding the High D case vs. those just in a labyrinth of maybes. It appears that there are 3 groups of Scientologist at this moment:
1) The High D cases, together with the salvation-obsessed and the FPRD cases, which constitute the relatively small cadre of die-hard DM devotees,
2) Those stuck in maybes, which constitutes the vast majority of those still on lines, on staff or on the fence, and
3) Those who have worked through this on their own and are either under the radar or declared Indies.
I have great respect and empathy for groups 2 and 3, and consider that it is group 3’s responsibility to help those in group 2 wherever and whenever practical because it’s actually a very easy thing to do when a high-ARC, gradient approach is employed. In fact, I have had great success not even indicating any data outside the person’s reality, as such is reactively resisted as “entheta” or “enemy lines”. The line of least resistance is like a Zen session – where only strings are pulled, questions are asked on only those issues where the person is already cognizant of contrary facts that hang them up in a maybe.
As you pull strings and make it safe for them to give honest answers FROM THEIR REALITY, you afford them the opportunity to have a genuine LOOK for themselves without jeopardizing any stable data they are as yet unwilling to relinquish. By just pulling strings, indicating WHICH outpoint THEY are observing, and employing some high-ARC, playful “bate and badger” only when appropriate, recognizing rightness and NEVER op-terming, you begin to see by their indicators the pain and anguish of betrayal, followed by a “something is rotten in Denmark” cognition being verbalized. Thereafter, a reference to The Creed of the Church of Scientology is adequate to send them on their way to make their own further decisions about the situation (see http://www.faqs.org/faqs/scientology/users/codes_and_creeds/):
We of the Church believe:
That all men of whatever race, color or creed were created with equal rights;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;
That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;
That all men have inalienable rights to conceive, choose, assist or support their own organizations, churches and governments;
That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;
That all men have inalienable rights to the creation of their own kind;
That the souls of men have the rights of men;
That the study of the mind and the healing of mentally caused ills should not be alienated from religion or condoned in non-religious fields;
And that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside these rights, overtly or covertly.
And we of the Church believe:
That man is basically good;
That he is seeking to survive;
That his survival depends upon himself and upon his fellows and his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.
And we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid man:
To destroy his own kind;
To destroy the sanity of another;
To destroy or enslave another's soul;
To destroy or reduce the survival of one's companions or one's group.
And we of the Church believe that the spirit can be saved and that the spirit alone may save or heal the body.
I guess everything there is just ducky.
Well, since we have brought Donald Duck into it-Here is a little from Walt Disney on religion and God. Walt Disney it appears was a man who lived his faith and was not driven by money only.
“Deeds rather than words express my concept of the part religion should play in everyday life. I have watched constantly that in our movie work the highest moral and spiritual standards are upheld, whether it deals with fable or with stories of living action. This religious concern for the form and content of our films goes back 40 years to the rugged financial period in Kansas City when I was struggling to establish a film company and produce animated fairy tales. Many times during those difficult years, even as we turned out Alice in Cartoonland and later in Hollywood the first Mickey Mouse, we were under pressure to sell out or debase the subject matter or go "commercial" in one way or another. But we stuck it out — my brother Roy and other loyal associates — until the success of Mickey Mouse and Silly Symphonies finally put us in the black. Similarly, when war came to the United States in 1941, we turned from profitable popular movie-making to military production for Uncle Sam. Ninety-four per cent of the Disney facilities in Hollywood became engaged in special government work, while the remainder was devoted to the creation of morale building comedy, short subjects."
A bit more from Walt Disney.
"Thus, whatever success I have had in bringing clean, informative entertainment to people of all ages, I attribute in great part to my Congregational upbringing and my lifelong habit of prayer. To me, today, at age sixty-one, all prayer, by the humble or highly placed, has one thing in common: supplication for strength and inspiration to carry on the best human impulses which should bind us together for a better world. Without such inspiration, we would rapidly deteriorate and finally perish. But in our troubled time, the right of men to think and worship as their conscience dictates is being sorely pressed. We can retain these privileges only by being constantly on guard and fighting off any encroachment on these precepts. To retreat from any of the principles handed down by our forefathers, who shed their blood for the ideals we still embrace, would be a complete victory for those who would destroy liberty and justice for the individual"
Mike and aqua, this is a very interesting cognition and line to follow. I think that you have hit on some big points here and it's a opening to a handling for those on the fence etc. I realized a while ago that if you could show people inside that there were auditors available and winning then more might leave. Of course DM tries to disprove this with hate sites etc. one of the problems with the indie field is that there are to many people also slamming the tech. Now with sites like this and others forming we are starting to form a better and more cohesive group of indies. Once we get something a little more organized and approachable I think the flood gates would open and we would be that much more attractive. Scientolgy needs an alternative leadership outside of the RCS. Not in its current format but at least some path. Lana seems to forming that.
The statement "I will send you some pictures shortly but we have to be careful about them being turned into span" is curious to say the least. I have sent and received hundreds of emailed pictures in my brief foray into the cyberworld. My computer (or the recipient's computer) can either recognize the data or not, the picutures may sometimes be too large to attach, or the email (pictures and all) end up in the junk mail. Picutres don't get "turned into spam".
More likely, the author meant to say "I will send you some pictures shortly but we have to be careful about them being viewed by normal people who will think we are retarded".
Rest assured, kool-aid drinkers will look at this and say:
"That's real Spirit of Play!"
"They're operating at Games!"
"Plymouth is really creating!"
and the ol' reliable…
"That's soooo theta!"
c r i n g e…..
You nailed it, Statpush. I have such charge on those phrases now.
Doth thee depths of degradation hath no bounds?
Wow – in order to be taken off the email list you have to write an actual letter and send it via snail mail?? Brilliant!
It has to be said, these guys are obviously quacking up!
COB RTC David Miscavige has stated that racing ducks are perhaps the most important part of the Golden Age of Tech.
By way of emphasizing Mr. Miscavige's committment to racing duck fundraising, a vital new Flag Only course on "Racing Duck Fundamentals" has been mandated for all Scientologists. Debits have already been taken against monies on account. Where there is no money on account, an invoice payable on receipt has been mailed.
"Racing duck fundraising is the future of the Church of Scientology," enthused Mr. Miscavige at a recent gala held to celebrate the fifth grand re-opening of the New York City Ideal Org.
The newly reopened NYC Ideal Org features a 100,000 gallon racing duck pool on the sixth floor.
OTVIII, real laughter right before bed – what more can I ask?
Sorry to gush, but I really love this blog! I'm in very good company here.
By the way I do believe there is a good deal of essential truth in the Bible, just not that its ALL true, that EVERY datum in it is true. But of course, this type of cherry-picking can be abhorrent to certain peoople and faiths. They will tune you right out.
This is the kind of thing that gives one liners a bad name; total quackery.
There are more declared SP's than certified OT's.
Apparently it is easier to make SP's than OT's.
They need that building to declare the SP's.
It takes lots of space to snag the SP's.
I just had a cognition.
These people cling to what they actually know is very flawed because it is their stable datum. Despite their stable datum being shaken continually and severely tested of late they hang on for dear life because they have no other stable datum to take its place.
I have some Bible Thumpers in my family. Anything the Bible says is true. They are college educated, older, and otherwise very analytical people who read well and write well. But the Bible is their stable datum; its all true, God wrote it, etc. etc. Many years ago I pointed out all of the outpoints I knew of in the Bible to them. I didn't call them "outpoints" then but just what clearly didn't make sense. Their reaction to this? Extreme antagonism at first, which didn't intimidate me. I just kept calmly pointing out the outpoints, which had the effect of driving them, whew! right down to fear. Yes, I saw fear in their eyes, and the beginning of tears as well. I dropped the whole thing and apologized and made it all okay. In order to make it really OK for them I had to submit to a lecture about God and Jesus and how bad it is to ever question anything in the Bible. Well, I submitted to it. I had shaken them up pretty badly when all I wanted was an intelligent discussion. Thinking nothing of it, I had pulled the rug out from under them and they were left with nothing underneath. By doing this, I had taken on the color of the devil. Its the Evil One who influences us to question the Bible, you see.
That's what's the matter with the RCS OTs, public and staff. Auditing and training be damned. Outpoints be damned. IQ and ability be damned. They've got a stable datum, and the SPs are trying to shake it, to TAKE it from them, and they are NOT going to allow it, not not not no no no no never never never…
OK, I get it. ARC for them is now restored. I can think with this.
This is such a great blog. Thank you, Mike and to all who post here.
This is a great Cog Aqua.
Of course, like fundamentalists of any stripe (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Scientologist) the biggest stable datum they have is that their religion provides the path to that which is more valuable than anything on earth (literally) — Their eternal salvation. And nobody else can provide this other than their own brand of fundamentalist thinking/belief. Inconsistencies can be ignored. What are a few oddities compared to eternal salvation.
The only thing that can shake this sort of blind certainty is to show that the person who is telling them this is the ONLY path is in fact lying. You see people abandoning the Catholic church enmasse when it is demonstrated the Pope/Cardinals/Archbishops are engaged in covering up crimes in the church, and they may not in fact represent good guides on the path to spiritual salvation.
It’s an interesting subject. If you can get someone to see that harm is being done by those in charge, without seeking to destroy their certainty in the underlying belief system, you can bring them into a state of higher awareness.
Thank you very much, Mike. I really feel much better!
And you've defined it precisely: their stable datum IS their road to salvation. Wow. And the truth is, I don't really care what people believe, I just hate injustice, while loving to analyze, dissect, play with ideas, try out various theories, in short, to entertain ideas. I LOVE that LRH has "Not Know" right under "Know" on the Know To Mystery Scale! (Just read this on Marty's blog). It makes total sense to me that "Not Know" is really high up on this scale!
I like your suggestion of the correct approach to the blind certainty of others. (And it is SO blind). An oblique approach of just introducing truth about abuse occurring, as well as lies about the abuse. Its a good way to begin to obtain agreement, because no sane person thinks abuse is a good thing.
Of course, what you run into is denial that their ecclesiastical leader (croak) could in a million years be capable of anything like that. But then, you're right, its still the only way to gain entrance. You can't hit them over the head with too much data to make them cognite. You don't overwhelm them, you penetrate. You let the truth penetrate. Its really all you can do, when the idee fixee is so very "fixed". OK, I'm game 🙂
Aqua's cog connected some dots for me. The fundamental is looking for oneself, which Scn leads one to, then one need not rely on the perceptions of others.
Aqua, your cog got me thinking and I'd like to add something here. I've also experienced what happens when you question a stable datum with some people. It seems to me that a person in a lower condition would be more likely to cling to a stable datum. A person who's in a high condition spiritually, mentally or emotionally would be their owm stable datum and would be abe to question what's going on around them. From this viewpoint I woud estimate that a lot of people still on lines in the CoS are not in a good condition and will continue to follow DM's misguided, destructive leadership. Time will tell how crazy things will get.
Paul J, what you say makes sense. I very much like the idea of being one's own stable datum. For example, one's own could be "I can know or not-know, and I can be right or wrong about knowing or not knowing". I mean, I just made that up off the top of my head, but it would give me the "stability" being a decision point – it wouldn't hold up beingness in a "maybe" because, "I can know" but then it wouldn't force me into continually having to be right.
Regarding stable datums, I think what you're describing is the difference between a Know Best and/or a Ser Fac stable datum, and a truly high toned person's stable datum. My own experience with both opposite types of stable datums aligns with what you've pointed out. The former is real ridgy, solid and always defended in the LOWER tone levels if indeed it is even allowed to be discussed at all. On the other hand, with truly high toned individuals I have had the experience of understanding that something defnitely is that person's stable datum, but are still quite relaxed and comfortable taling about it and hearing disagreement about it, have an actual interest in understanding it and withal are free about granting beingness to me for my differing point of view. Its a different energy entirely, dealing with the stable datums of such people, as I felt I could say anything and it would be okay. I didn't have to worry about upsetting their stable datum because they just had it there but were still able to be there with me with no strain. They could be themselves and at the same time they could "be" me and still not "lose" themselves. The know-best, ser facky one's go right into the lower tone levels of resentment expressed or unexpressed, fear, covert hositlity and even grief. I guess they just can't be themselves AND be someone else.because they think they have to be either one or the other?
Anyway, in short, yes, I agree with you that this is a case issue as to how different people operate with their stable datums.
And, I should add, I also agree that case level would determine HOW a person would aquire his or her stable datum. Wow, yeah!
I mean, "case state", not "level".
I found this origional LRH ED for sale on Ebay. It reads:
"When an Org gets strangled financially and the Exec Council lets the strings go on FP and drops out FP and drops out Finance Policy there is no causative Exec Council
as Thetan of the Org. In such a situation the Execs have long since ceased to be members of the group and have betrayed my trust. The condition is TREASON. LRH
To be fair, although LRH cautioned against funding the Org by selling postcards, I don't recall that he ever specifically prohibited duck races. And for what it's worth, this is the first fundraiser in a long time where there is actually a little bit of an exchange. I think that's just ducky!
🙂
Churchie: "I can find no LRH reference which prohibits duck races, therefore it is not off-policy"
So if my power of math is up to it, and bear in mind I'm no OT, you're encouraged to sponsor at least 10 ducks, and God knows what constitutes a flock, but at £50 a pop that's £500 which is 2nd prize!
What birdbrain thought this promo up? Can't think that I've ever read a competition plug before that asked me to stump up more than what 2 of the top 3 prizes are worth! Which I think officially makes this the dumbest competition promo I've ever seen!
In fact I'd say its absolutely quackers!
Here I sit,alone, in the dark and silent night. Plymouth, UK, is more than 600 miles away but even so it is 'my org' as surely as if Ilived there, and my heart aches.
Normally I rarely read these 'expose' blogs and certainly never comment upon the articles, having read and seen 'enough' these past twelve months. Times are no longer normal, or if one wishes to be pedantic, this is a new 'normality' but one which is not acceptable !
Therefore allow me to raise some facts for those outside of Devon, and ease my guilt of overts of omission, if only a little.
Plymouth has never been a large org, it began in a small converted terraced house, in the late 60's or early 70's, this current building is only its second, but always had a steady flow of traffic, it being near to the main thoroughfares, sometimes more and sometimes less but always friendly and active.
Recently it has been reported that the telephone is not answered during the daytime and that there is not any observable body trafffic.
The letter is signed by 'Mark' , If this is the stalwart Mark Jefferies then he is off post and so then where are the correct staff members ? Mark is a man of courage and persistence who joined the org in about 1974 and has managed to stick with it.
The Plymouth public were possibly the first in the UK to raise the money and purchase the designated ideal org by themselves. It was previously an hotel and in the old, and more sane, days we would have moved straight in [it has delivery spaces, purpose built accomodation, kitchens et al] and just dusted it down and started delivery as per LRH policy, even though it is right OFF the beaten track as body traffic goes.
However the digital midget and his pts sp's could not allow that to happen and so the cost was doubled by requiring more millions for un-needed 'reno's'. It would appear that the Plymouth public have decided 'enough is enough' and contributions have come to a halt.
Next, Although Peter Hodkins is a qualified Solicitor {Lawyer} he is totally under control of OSA UK, and therefore the digital midget. His office is also adjacent to St Hill some 350 miles from Plymouth UK. Then why is he published, in the letter, as being in charge of the Plymouth addresso, and why, as a Solicitor has he lent his name to such a degraded piece of work ?
My integrity should send me to Plymouth to assist in any way possible but my poorly concealed contempt for the midget and int management already has me at odds with the resident Rottwieler at AOSH so that she is just itching to sink her golden rod fangs into me.and thus my time there would be short.
As I have often considered that there is too much criticism on these blogs may I make a suggestion as to a 'needed and wanted' from LRH adherents ?
There must be many beings feeling lost and abandoned around the various Scientology orgs worldwide, to start an on policy group, as required by LRH, adjacent to each failed org would keep Scientology alive and expanding. What say you ?
P.S. Would one of you capable people on that side of the 'divide' do a full and factual report on the owners and beneficiaries of the building outfit that is awarded the over priced contracts for the building works at orgs that need it OR NOT !
,ARC,
The Watcher.
It's Mark Goddard, manager of "the most important mailing list in the UK" and the man who keeps Brits "in the loop on how their eternity is shaping up" (his words). Here he is getting into a fruckus with a protestor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HNsdtXPCrM
I would just like to indicate that what you described is a classic "high D-trait" case – "D" being the Certainty column on the Oxford Capacity Analysis. The profile shows exceedingly high "certainty" while all other traits are towards the bottom of the graph – evidence of exactly what you described. The person has selected out ONE stable datum and is hanging onto it for dear life lest his concept of reality fold like a house of cards into the swirl of confusion he's attempting to not-is. And therein is the classic fundamentalist's profile.
However, that is a specific syndrome that I think it would be unfair to broad-brush all of our brethren with still within the bubble. Indeed, there are some of these "High D" cases among them, but not the majority by any means. The majority are just stuck in the cognitive dissonance of a host of maybes, and with each progressive resolution to their maybes, reality begins to dawn as they quietly slip into non-participation whilst maintaining a pretense of allegiance for familial and business reasons that are more immediately dear than some nebulous concept of "salvation".
You are correct that, in order to unhinge the cognitive dissonance, beating them over the head with that which is the worst, the hardest to confront, does them no kindness. It's a gradient scale started off by nibbling around the edges on those maybes that are very real to them, enabling their own logic and perception of reality to gradiently pierce the tissue of lies they are efforting to hold at bay. For example:
1. Nothing is true in Scientology unless it’s true for you.
But maybe, if I disagree, I must have an M.U.
2. If it isn’t written, it isn’t true.
But maybe it’s “Command Intention”
3. [Blank] dedicated [blank] decades of selfless service as a staff member but is now an SP.
But maybe it was a case of “SPs, How They Become One”
4. Super Power still hasn’t been released after 35 years.
But maybe they don’t have enough staff yet.
5. I feel awesome but my needle is not floating?
But maybe I’m actually keyed-in.
6. Don’t spend more than you make.
But maybe I need to borrow more for my next action so I can get out of debt.
7. Only the bank says that the group is everything and the individual nothing.
But maybe the 3rd Dynamic is more important than the 1st Dynamic.
8. There is no LRH policy authorizing the IAS.
But maybe it’s an upgrade of the HASI to meet current needs.
9. There seems to be an unpleasant culture of force, threats and crush-regging at the Org.
But maybe it’s just necessary to keep the show on the road because of the SPs.
10. Int-level Execs rarely if ever speak at International Events anymore.
But maybe they’re off on other projects, or maybe DM is the best Speaker.
11. [Blank] Ideal Org isn’t earning enough to pay staff and utility bills.
But maybe the new international marketing campaign will remedy that.
12. Flag is demanding we send public for Grades, Clearing and Auditor training.
But maybe their Golden Age of Tech is better than ours.
13. I should look on the Internet and see if there is anything bad going on that rings true.
But maybe I’ll get in Ethics trouble.
14. There was testimony on CNN from veteran Int-level S.O. members of physical violence at Int Base.
But maybe all those guys are lying SPs.
15. [Blank] OT is no longer active and on lines.
But maybe there is out-tech on his/her case.
Somewhere along this path, there is a cognition, their Iron Maiden flies open, and real certainty in alignment with reality is restored.
Graduated, OMG, yes, the "maybe"s!! All those "maybe"s holding up Beingness.This is ringing bells all over the place for me. This is a very helpful post.
LRH, on the Route To Infitity tapes somewhere, gets into how you can just make people do anything you want by giving them lots and lots of Maybe's. You keep this up and they just become nothing because they can't emanate from anyplace. It is extremely abberative, he says, and if you keep this up long enough, at some point they just cave in completely and say, "YES – ANYTHING!! I'LL DO ANYTHING!" I forget which RTI tape it is but he makes a huge point out of it, that it doesn't matter, i.e., is not particulary abberative, WHAT a thetan decides, but if he CAN'T decide ongoingly it has serious case reprecussions. Oh, now I recall: its either the Decision tape or the Decision, Cause & Effect tape on the RTI.
So now we have these guys really caved in, going along with anything, degraded, quacking like ducks, and its all "so theta". This is real evil, right before our eyes.
I really GET the handling now of introducing truth on a gradient, pointing out the lies on a gradient. Its the ONLY thing which will get these people off of their "maybe"s, and then they will have their own cognitions.
I'm a "solution oritented" type, so thanks again Mike, Marty, and to all who post. You all really help me!
Mike, what I just posted in response to Graduated's "Maybe" post should actually be at the end of the comments so that it is sequitur to the previous comm.
For the love of God…would somebody please STEP ON A DUCK!!!!
At the end of the email, it reads….If you no longer wish to receive e-mails from the Church of Scientology, please write to the
Like they'll actually take you off their email list…mercy
Like they'll actually take you off their email list…
Oh, you can get off their email lists, but you'll have to do like I did, and publish a public resignation on a high profile 'bitter apostate' blog. It won't happen all at once. You'll still recieve the odd email from the Superpower Project or Saint Hill, but most of it will dry up real quick.
Yes, this is definitely why I got into Scientology – Pirate Parties, Cowboys and Indians, Catered Camelot Events, Pins, Plaques, Tee Shirts, Hooray for Hollywood and Quack, Quack Quack.
I know people in who are auditor trained, FEBC trained, Data Series trained. How how how how how is it possible to be this trained and – what am I missing here? What data am I missing that I can apply to make sense out of this?
I'm starting to lose my ability to grant beingness to these people. Maybe its true that some people are just too stupid to live. Maybe they do deserve everything they get. Maybe P.T. Barnum, or whoever said,it, was right, that "There's a sucker born every minute".
Could someone here help me out? Is there a reference I can read, so that I can get myself OUT of this perjorative mental state about these people? There has to be a datum, something. I was one of them once. Maybe its just true data that they don't have? And maybe I just answered my own question? I don't know.
It all has to do with **Thinking Ahead**. When the duck dnations are done, there will be a reproduc(k)tion of the Monty Python Special Olympics featuring those who donated. This will have much broader popular appeal, and will draw press coverage from around the world, raising even more money. http://youtu.be/4wRwZrThGXI
What once was a dead horse is now a puddle of putrid mush, yet Mark Goddard keeps flogging it. Poor guy. Open or closed, the result is still the same: another Idle Morgue.
Mike,
I recall reading a PL about Joking and Degrading. It seems to me that many of these Ideal Org campaigns are run by "OT's" and "Opinion Leaders" (OL's to the brainwashed and slightly dim) and that these events over the years make a mockery of the state of OT and are designed to belittle and degrade COS public. I can feel the intended effect DM is creating. Its really a sick sick game.
That was one of the most bizarre things I have ever read. I'm not an expert on LRH policy, however I do remember reading/hearing something Hubbard said about NOT engaging in money raising activies like this, but rather using Scientology to solve financial issues. Then again, I also remember Hubbard saying that the church wasn't about the building or obtaining real estate, but that boat sailed a long time ago.
OMG, this is so sick. I'll need to see the ducktor at the quack of dawn! So I better get duck when all the bills are coming …
OMG…this is too much…so pathetic! Can you imagine being in that meeting, thinking up all the rules to the duck races?! It's painful for me to even imagine! Yet, oddly funny at the same time being on this side of the game.
And…we've been saying for awhile now, with regard to the COS antics and criminality, "If it looks like and duck and walks like a duck…".
I guess now they are just making it even more obvious.
oops…typo on that…should say looks like A duck, not and duck 🙂
"Bizarre" and boardering on the edge of "total desperation", "insanity" — not to mention "completely non-sequitur".
I said here days ago, that the behavior of the orgs is going to become stranger and stranger, the more desperate their situation gets. Mark my words. They're going to do some eye-popping things in weeks and months to come.
I think that there's a whole fluck of ducks and bucks needed to renovate this behemoth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ftMtbGR5M
It is duck season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE
Mike, for the love of God, please tell me you are making these things up. That your bent for fiction has got the better of you. I am beginning to feel twinges of embarassment for the fools creating these charades. Can you imagine anyone newly joining the Church of Scientology at Plymouth Org? For this? Duck races? In the words of Dear Leader, "Are you freaking kidding me?" (How many times have we heard THAT?)
Sorry Dan. My fiction writing skills are not up to this level of creativity/depravity.
I know I am beating a dead horse (duck?) with this, but perhaps some of the people that are inside the land of illusion might see one of these things and realize they are NOT the only one who thinks what is going on is insane. So, for that reason, I keep these coming, and believe me, there are more than I can keep up with.
I am stunned. Just speechless. Duck got my tongue.
"I am very pleased to announce that the Quack Duck Squad training is back on track."
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Translation… into the depths of degradation no matter what, we march on.
No doubt the winners will be demanded to give any prize earnings to the Idle Org.
Ya think?
I'm just guessing here, going out on a real limb, but I strongly suspect that anyone winning the 1,000 pound prize will have to collect it in person and will be regged for at least 2,000 pounds before they're allowed to leave the building. Net prize payouts after regging: 0.00. But maybe I'm just too cynical.
John P — doubtful you could ever be too cycnical when it comes to the tactics of “fundraising” in the Vulture Culture. Nothing is beneath them. Wouldn’t surprise me if they surveyed people beforehand “Would you donate 1000 pounds to the Ideal Org? If so, we will credit you with double towards your “Humanitarian With Knobs On It” award. The first person who says yes is magically the “winner” ….
Nah, John P, you are right on. That was miy first thought as well, when I read about the prize. Yeah, go and try to collect it and than pass the reges obstacle course . 🙂
Quote of the day: "In the final analysis will you be able to sit down with your children and your children's children and say that you did give a duck?"
If I recall correctly, it was the Plymouth org who claimed to have "fully funded" their Ideal Building and then discovered that they were still 60,000 pounds short due to some adding mistakes.
So, the shilling continued. They will never, ever own or restore that building. If they're lucky, it will fall into the parking lot sinkhole so they shan't have to worry about it any longer.
Mike, you may want to clarify, 'solicitor' as in the USA someone who, um, solicits is quite a different thing!
Right Sara. Simple definition for those who remain untainted by the arcane complexity of the law. Solicitor = Lawyer.