The Freewinds is sinking, unable to stay afloat in a sea of red ink.
Despite the fact that scientology screams “massive international expansion” at every opportunity and how they are opening “new churches” at a massive rate, the truth is a very different picture.
The Freewinds is the only place on earth (this sector of the galaxy? the entire time/space continuum?) where OT VIII is delivered. It should be bursting at the seams with thousands of scientologists clamoring to do the first “real” OT level if there were people “flooding up the bridge” as they claim and each “ideal org” results in “10X expansion” blah blah blah
Instead, they are so desperate to get ANYONE to show up they are selling themselves with “we have reduced the prices of our already very affordable accommodations” for “all scientologists.” This is not a survey for people arriving to do OT VIII, it is asking people “what would you like to do when you are here”?
There can be no greater proof of the complete failure of scientology than this. They cannot even get a hundred people onto OT VIII at any given time FROM THE WHOLE WORLD.
Think of it this way — if Harvard couldn’t get anyone to attend their university to earn degrees so they began offering dorm rooms on AirBNB to pay the groundskeeping staff.
Monumental, epic, watershed fail on the front porch to infinity.
Patrick Luscher says
They will very soon ask money for a new ideal MV « insert a theta name here ». I even don’t understand why it’s not already the case.
I remember I had to make a donation for the MV Freewinds a long time ago…
Is it not strange that the place where real OT are made is not ideal?!?
Wynski says
I’m would be to sure of that one Patrick. A new ship would be a depreciating asset. Unlike real estate. Not DMs M.O.
Kat DePietro says
They keep telling everyone that the church is growing and growing. This is proof that it is not. All the negative press, true stories of awful things that have happened to people while in the church, is really having an impact. This is a good thing. I hope and pray that the rulership of Dave ends soon enough…..
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I know how to get off the ship if you are being regged and they will not let you go.
Just tell them your doctor back home just called to tell you that you are HIV +.
Your bags will be on the dock within the hour.
Kati Maines says
Happy birthday, Mike!
Aquamarine says
Sorry if this infuriates anyone but if the Sea Org is actively recruiting people from the poor in various Third World countries then those recruits actually are physically better off in the Sea Org than in their own countries.
Being poor in the Third World is a mud hut with one room for the entire family, no indoor plumbing, clean water scarce or non-existent, getting typhoid from drinking dirty water, getting one’s little acre wiped out in a hurricane or flood, hardly any medical attention or medicine, a woman having one baby after another with little or no medical care, begging coins from “rich” tourists, a high infant mortality rate, a high likelihood of early death for adults especially women…I could go on.
Poverty in the Third World is beyond imagination unless one sees it up close. We don’t see that kind of poverty, that condition of always being on the brink of utter destitution, in America.
Sorry, anyone plucked from that is better off because at least they have a stepping stone and a CHANCE (to blow or route out) whereas in their own countries they have NO chance.
I’m saying this and I HATE the fucking Sea Org. Always have, always will.
Mike Rinder says
Well, physical well-being is certainly one aspect. Mental is the other. Many of these people end up trapped in a situation they were unaware of at the outset. They’re not literally bringing people from mud huts. The majority come from Eastern European countries. People don’t live in mud hits there.
Aquamarine says
Point taken, Mike. I didn’t forget about the mental aspect but thought that sometimes the physical can be so overwhelming that it blots out everything else – for a time. And the Eastern European countries are no where in the ball park as poor as what I had in mind. Got it, no disagreement that people from these countries are getting recruitfully screwed.
Sheila M Huber says
Aquamarine, I was an SO recruiter during one of the stints of wog recruitment in the early 80s. We had a similar idea as you – that some people were so destitute that this would actually be a step up and the worst that would happen is they’d be drug and alcohol free and eat a few meals and blow. Blowing was easier then, too.
I looked for foreigners who were decent people. Some of the other recruiters went as far as going the the free food lunches at Salvation Army or other places bums hung out to pick up a few recruits on a Thursday morning before 2 pm. I’m not kidding! Everyone was given a chance, unless they took LSD, lol.
Only one of my raw recruits made it through the EPF. I don’t think any of the other recruiters wog recruits made it through. All the rest found it bad and blew. This one recruit would have been an asset to any company or organization. Everyone loved the guy. BUT when it was time to graduate the EPF, it was found he was from Panama and came to the US illegally through a gang and did something bad as his gang initiation. Security would not clear him, even though his org was willing to sponsor his immigration.
Control in the SO is much harsher now, and so are security regulations. Like Mike Rinder said, they don’t recruit from true areas of poverty in foreign countries, they recruit from college campuses, and they hold their passports. I know this from personally helping a foreign SO member who blew from the Sea Org in Australia a few years ago. There is culture shock, there is extreme control, there are wild, wonderful unfulfilled promises when all that happens is they are cut off from family, friends and all that are familiar to become a slave who is too tired and beaten down to do anything but continue.
peterblood71 says
In wonder why no one thought of making a fake passport to hand in and keeping the real passport in someplace secure? I guess while brain-washed you’re not thinking clearly.
Fink Jonas says
When being recruited they come out as clean decent organization you trust them it never occurs to the victim they are crooks plus they offer you a “job” papers or not you think you gonna get at least legal minimum wage they never disclose how you beinohired that happened to me I was in shock when I got $7.50 for that first two weeks. Big ARC brake they can’t fool me like that but who do you complain??? Nobody, KRs I knew about them on day 3. Afraid very afraid
Samantha White O'Boyle says
Other than getting the IRS to call time on this , perhaps as is usually the case, they will implode themselves.
There are multiple times when being on “church business” has defied immigration laws.
Fingers crossed.
I agree with Jesse Prince about the dark magick of this cult by the way. Serious shit.
Lurr Kurr says
Interesting observation Aquamarine, but I respectfully and whole heartedly disagree. Do you think the transatlantic slave ships brought third world Africans to a better life here in America? They too had food and water and medical care.
Yet almost 300 years of suffering followed….(many would argue successfully that we still have not recovered) even though they were in a “less impoverished place.”
Freedom…..real freedom, is always the better choice than enslavement. No?
Aquamarine says
Lurr Kurr, with equal respect, I think you’re making a false equivalency.
Africans captured in Africa to be slaves in the Americas were not starving. They were healthy, strong humans or they would have been left there because healthy strong people were being taken to pick cotton and harvest sugar cane under the broiling hot sun. Only people with very strong healthy bodies can do that.
They were tricked and abducted against their will and brought here in chains in the holds of slave ships. Many of them perished on the way.
Once here they were sold. Under the laws of those times they were not considered human beings but property.
As such they were forbidden to marry, to congregate publicly, forbidden to be taught to read and write or be educated in any way except in their slave jobs
They could not own land. They had no rights as parents; their children could be separated from them at birth and sold and this was all legal. As such they were encouraged to be promiscuous amongst themselves so that more slaves for their owners were created. The women were at the mercy of their male owners to submit sexually and bear colored children who would be slaves. I could go on.
I can see how some parallels can be drawn but I think your equating Sea Org recruitment with legal African slavery in the USA and elsewhere makes far too light of the unspeakable conditions in which centuries of human beings once existed.
Wynski says
Agreed Aqua. The African slaves, enslaved by Africans and then sold to worldwide markets were MUCH worse for those people than any S.O. treatment.
MJM says
There never really was a maiden voyage because they were fucked to begin with.
Aquamarine says
🙂 🙂
Kronomex says
Maybe it should go on a three hour tour…
Oh dear, oh dear, all I can think of now is a few lines from Bottom Live 3 – Hooligan’s Island where Eddie talks about how he f(*&^d the ship. Sigh, if only it was the Freefarts he was talking about. By the way, it’s worth watching the whole show for the crazed humour of Adrian Edmondson and Rik Mayall particularly when they stuff their lines.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Scientology is sinking like the Titanic. Scientologists are literally polishing brass on the Freewinds.
Eventually, the only two remaining will be Miscavige and Cruise…
Tom Cruise to David Miscavige: “Paint me like you paint those French girls.”… and the music swells, ? …Near, Far, Where-eeeever You Are ?
Aquamarine says
Good one, WAYC!
Aquamarine says
DM singing to TC, with apologies to George and Ira:
The way you wore your Hat
The way you went OT
The memory of all that
No, no they can’t take that away from Me.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
AND will Dwarfenführer care if the PassesWindsFreely fails so completely that he has to sell it or “just let it die”?
No, of course not. He’ll be too busy blaming everyone else for the failures while he worked SO hard, ordering everyone, including the “guests”, to do an all-hands brass-polishing while the hull rusts away below.
Once it’s resting on the bottom, that’ll give him a chance to buy the Queen Mary, (rotting away in California) , spend enough on her renovations to build three similarly-sized ships, upgrading it to have a dedicated dive-boat nestled in her stern… No, make that an IDEAL dive-boat with piles of Mark XXV super-powered dive computers and ideal BCDs, all available for a mere $2,000 per hour, payable in advance, no refunds.
Just thought: Does “Captain” Davey have any quals in any water vessel, or is the closest he gets to water the ice in his drink? Inquiring minds want to know. My guess is that he couldn’t pilot a Sunfish 100 yards away from the dock and back without a tow from another boat. Wouldn’t have a clue how to get passingWind from where it is to where it should be, nor which direction that would be, nor how to know what direction she was facing. Only thing he could do would be yell at and beat about their heads and shoulders any who hadn’t run or swum far enough away.
Paul Kawaller says
Since I actually have the experience in the selling of the Apollo, perhaps it will go down the same way.
For us it started with the off hand comment of a customs guard that he heard there was interest in purchasing the ship for $2,000,000. That word got back to LRH and he bought it.
So a mission was created to sell the ship as a private sale, sort of like “For Sale By Owner”. Then over a two year period a progression of strange characters paraded out to look at the ship. There was a great deal of “security” about the whole thing, and the ship brokers in New York who actually sell assets like this were studiously avoided. In the end it turned out that they knew every individual who had expressed interest in the ship.
In the end, it was sold for scrap, through the New York brokers for $125,000. This was less than the cost of maintaining it at anchor in the Bahamas for the two years it took for Hubbard to give up the fantasy.
Robert Almblad says
I am sure the red ink is flowing in many places besides the Freewinds but he can’t get rid of the Freewinds because the ship is too high profile to the faithful. This ghost ship will be an albatross around his neck for years to come…
Scott Campbell says
The guy who wrote that letter, (Michael Sander) was one of the E/R Electricians while I was aboard.
Gus Cox says
Wow, that garbage scow is still afloat?
No way I’d ever go there – the captive IAS regging and SO recruitment is probably even worse for the health than all that blue asbestos.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I actually pity any poor dumb bastard that goes there. I was the Mechanics Chief there for 16 years and all but left there in a pine box after getting AIDS from a blood transfusion in 1989 in Curacao, the Freewinds home port. In my FB it said that I was to return to duty “As soon as possible next lifetime”. The worst part for me was that they held my wife prisoner while they waited for me to die. But they screwed up. They let her go while I was still alive and she got me real medical care just before it was too late. If you want to go on the Freewinds, I recommend that you bring a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in in the world. I could have used one to blow my own head clean off, as Clint Eastwood once said. I am now glad I did not but many of my friends on the ship who were in good health when I was sent off to die are now dead from no or lousy medical care. It’s less painful to just blow your own head off when you cannot take any more.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
As for the Blue Asbestos? That is for pussies. I actually scraped some into a line and snorted it like cocaine while on the ship. In the SO, we need the job done now, not years from now. That is why I recommend the 44 magnum.
Peter says
Time and handgun development have moved on, Bill. The current power leader is the Smith & Wesson .500. Good article on the top ten at https://www.maxim.com/gear/10-most-powerful-handguns-planet. And a short video of the current leader being fired by a very pretty lady. (I’m not sure I could LIFT it!!!!)
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Yeah, I figured as much. Thanks for the info.
Newcomer says
10 minutes with Teddy Braggin is worth a trip to the hospital and way more toxic than that lightweight blue asbestos!
Balletlady says
Just sit right back
And you’ll hear a tale
of an Old Rust Bucket Ship…….
Macy Carew says
How much does it cost to take a Freewinds trip? It said the prices were reduced. From what to what? I know it costs a bazillion dollars just to get to OT VII, but how much is it for that final step?
Newcomer says
More that anyone in their right frame of mind would ever consider spending. That said, no one who ‘arrives’ at that rust bucket is ever in a right frame of mind. And when you are done it is even more unright!
I think they want about 10K for Oh Tea Ate, another 3k or so for a shared room with a cockroach (more if specified cockroach free which of course is not possible) and then you will have to also pay for your ‘Interrogation intensives” – usually two or more – at somewhere around 5K or 7K each.
All in all it’s a real deal! You get raked over the coals (fucked as they say in the vernacular) and if you don’t like it you cannot leave. What’s not to like about that!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
At least the 44 magnum is standard tech according to LRH. Ever hear of R2-45?
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
NO! Using a .44 for R2-45 would be “Mixing practices”. Ya gotta apply the tek EGGSACTLY, don’chaknow?
Peabody says
Out-tech, actually.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Got It! I will report directly to Ethics and Cramming and do my A-E as soon as I report for duty “As soon as possible next liferime”.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I lived on the Freewin ofds and I never saw a cokroach but I saw a bunch of cockaroaches.
They were deadly.
Kym Nadal says
Happy birthday, Mr Rinder!! Many many more??✨?
Aquamarine says
Hey, Mike! Happy Birthday To You!
Balletlady says
Happy Birthday Mike Rinder!
Old Surfer Dude says
Yo! Sup Mike! You survived another year. Congrats!
Peter says
And may you survive spectacularlly for many, many more, Mike!
Sheila M Huber says
Happy Birthday, Mike Rinder! I hope you’re having a fantastic day with your family.
TomUfer says
Happy birthday!
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
Here is the TRUTH as you will soon see presented on Scientology TV: The MV Freewinds is bursting at the seams with millions clamoring to get arrived and move up to OTVIII. COB has a strong help flow and that is why he ordered accommodation prices lowered. It was done to help and you’re welcome.
Special bonus: Arrive at the Freewinds in next 30 days and receive a free Joy Villa signing pen.
Aquamarine says
LOLOL! I’ve missed these spontaneous mini-satires of yours, Mr. A.
nomnom says
The only millions clamoring to get in are the Barnacle Thetans on the hull.
pluvo says
Previously it was called a “theta distraction-free environment”.
No more “theta”, Michael Sander??
Often, when there was one of the numerous bouts of screaming and face-ripping hysteria (including sending staff to the bilges as a punishment), I was thinking: “Yeah, theta environment only for the passengers, not so for the members of the crew.”
I was often wondering what the passengers would think when they would know how much “entheta” is going on behind the PR-facade of the “theta distraction-free environment” on the ship.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I think that my ex-wife Share in Kimball-Straass-weber? Invented face ripping and polished it into a fine art. I hope for her sake she patented it. She would be 68 this year and needs it for her “retirement” assuming that hers is different than mine.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Oh I spelled her name wrong. It is Sharron Elizabeth Weber.
Aquamarine says
Pluvo and Dead Men,
I went to the Freewinds and did the OT Hatting Course State of Man. I love boats and being on the water and I enjoyed the trip.
If someone were to have told me that while I was on that ship enjoying myself – swimming, studying, shopping, eating great meals – if someone had told me there were people being held below, on that ship, held against their wills, being punished, brutally worked, denied needed medical treatment – why, I wouldn’t have believed it!
I would have thought they were nuts…lying…suppressives.
I wouldn’t have believed it.
Not that I’m proud to admit this, btw. But it was so very OPPOSITE to what I was experiencing. That these people could be CRUEL to ANYone was, well, just so far out as a concept to me, as a public, back then!
Today, I think of my time on the Freewinds – about 10 days – and I cringe thinking of who might have been below decks…being treated harshly, unspeakably…wow. I’m sorry. I know its not my fault and I didn’t know, but I’m apologizing because I KNOW that had someone told me, back then, what was going on, I would not have believed them…I would not have queried or insisted to be allowed to inspect. I just wouldn’t have believed them. I would have dismissed it out of hand. That’s how beyond the beyond it would have appeared to me, back then.
I’m sorry.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Don’t feel bad about it We ARE suppressives because we tell the truth and that is suppressing dudes like Dave. Also, I knew that I would never make it out of there alive within a year of arriving. I was wrong in the end but so were 6 doctors Captain Napier and many others who said that my death was imminent.
pluvo says
Aqua, thanks for the explanations. We most likely saw each other 🙂 . Totally understood that you wouldn’t have believed that there was also something else than pure theta — the PR-front is very good. If a staff member would show anything than a happy face to the passengers, he would be taken immediately of post and be on ethics lines for showing “BIs”.
I was in the hotel division and we were a good team (at that level) and thus had also many good times. It was not so bad in the beginning, but over the years the pressure and mistreatment increased (I left late 90ies), and besides all, we really loved to service the passengers and enjoyed it when they were happy. So no reason to be sorry.
The pressure came down from CMO and when DM was on board there was a lot of madness. I was glad I wasn’t in the FSSO, as they had it worse. Sharron Weber is the enforcer puppet of CMO and RTC and her vacillating between being nice and flipping to the other side is quite schizophrenic. The Captain was a cool person in the beginning but changed over time into a nasty ass. The CMO members are mostly aloof and with a cold-chrome steel attitude. They get formed that way. The IAS is an entirely higher caste (working directly for DMs money).
Aquamarine says
Dead Men and Pluvo,
I was away yesterday, back today and want to thank YOU both for responding to me each in your understanding and non-judgemental ways.
Yes, their PR was spectacular. Still, I was wrong. Not beating myself up, just stating a fact. I was wrong to just swallow everything I was told.
I’ll share with you both that THE LESSON I learned from this is that ANYTHING AND ANYONE can be questioned and facts verified.
Also, the lesson i learned is that any person or organization expressing alarm at their facts being verified, being insulted by this OR in the extreme, FORBIDDING that their information be verified, is effectively flashing a signal to do so!
People and/or organizations who go nuts because their information is being verified are themselves nuts.
And that doesn’t mean that a person should go around being cynical and chronically suspicious about everyone and everything – no – that’s a horrible, narrow way to live. I hate people like that.
Not that I’m a Republican anymore, that’s impossible now, but back in the day Ronald Reagan had some great advice about this : “Trust, but verify”.
That’s the lesson I learned and will never forget. Thanks again, guys 🙂
PS: Pluvo, sorry to call you a guy if you’re not.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I agree with you utterly, sir.
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
Though it limped painfully from Aruba to its usual berth on Curaçao yesterday — average speed just over 10 knots — the ‘Fleabags’ can be seen most weekends, often dwarfed by genuine cruise-liners, via the Port Aruba webcam: http://www.portarubawebcam.com/ (you may need to disable your ad-blocker to see the stream properly).
It’s a bit like watching paint dry, because so little ever actually happens on or around the ship, though you may spot one of the lifeboats being rowed frantically about by some of the passengers, in one of their occasional group-bonding exercises.
I was once lucky enough to catch a lot of frantic running about forrard, which turned out to be the early-morning muster on the fo’c’sle deck, where Cap’n Mike “Groper” Napier presumably harangues his unfortunate crew to “up their stats” and reads out the “overboarding” list…
Aquamarine says
Seriously, they’re still overboarding people? Or, given that you put it in quotes, is it your term for being in major ethics trouble on the ship?
Dr. Strabismus of Utrecht says
Major ethics trouble; there seem to be no recent accounts of overboarding on the ship, though I wouldn’t put anything past them once they’re out at sea, out of sight of land. Miscavige certainly had people tossed in the lake at Int Base when he still showed his ugly mug there.
Aquamarine says
Got it on all, Dr., thanks.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I never heard the Captain read off an overboarding list. But I do recall him giving a long-winded talk when Davidson Smith glanced at his watch to which the Captain barked “Am I boring you Davidson”? When I was dying of AIDS there we were doing drills where we had to run from the very top deck to the very bottom deck and back to the upper deck. After the 3rd or 4th drill, I could hardly stand up. The Captain was talking on and on and I was standing at attention thinking “We got it, Captain, hoping he would finish talking before I passed out. On another occasion I did not make it and fell down before he finished. Fortunately the Damage Control and Rescue squad was right there to carry my body away.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
The Freewinds will go around 17 knots with both main engines running. If it was only doing 10 knots one of the engines may have been broken or nuked. It goes about 10 knots on one engine.
A J says
Considering in the non-CoS world cruising is more popular than ever it would seem to me that even Scientologists know a time share scam (captive audience with nowhere to run) when they see one. It appears that even practicing Scientologists want nothing to do with Freewinds. The CoS has added a whole new meaning to the nautical term of “a shakedown cruise.”
SILVIA says
This is really a disaster.
I guess they have run out of the blind followers that are commanded to do OT VIII twice (and there is no new epic reason for doing it a 3rd time) or, those who did it one time have died shortly after attesting, thus could not get them back.
Independently of OT VIIIs there are no more events for the Countries – they used to have the Italian, Spanish etc. weeks. Not even that eh?
This is really a bad scene, but that is what Miscabage has led them to: just have real state and millions for himself and the rest….well, he does not care at all.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Sounds like those who had to repeat OTVIII again just did not attain the Confidential EP: Death.
I can tell you from experience though I have not done the OT Levels: Once you are dead you will never hear from them again. I cannot even get a piece of paper declaring me. Its tough being dead. However I have you good people to talk to and that is worth all the lies in China.
So, thank you.
MJM says
Freewinds, sail the Freewinds
Don’t bring disconnected family
From the town of Drydock
They’re a page right out of history
Let’s ride with the family down the plank
Don’t forget to give Dave thanks
When you’re on the Freewinds
Have a yabba dabba doo time
A dabba doo time
Reges have a gay old time!
Mark says
MJM, I keep going back to your post, as I have had your Flintstones themed Freewinds song in my head all day! This is a great one!
MJM says
Thanks Mark.
Kyle says
The good thing about the Freewinds is that at 50 years old, the ship must be a huge money sink to keep afloat.
Deanoftruth says
Literally an anchor for Scientology.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
It was toast when they bought it. I know, I spent the next 16 years rebuilding the Engine Room. By then, I was toast.
freebeeing says
A distraction-free environment? Hmm, maybe for the IAS regs…
TrevAnon says
I have to ask.
Recently Kirstie Alley attested to OT8. I would think that was aboard the ship.
I’m assuming there weren’t many others while she was there.
Would she know she was the only one or something?
If not, how do they keep alive her illusion that COS is expanding like crazy? Did they tell her that as a (uhm 🙂 ) celeb she gets a special treatment so it wouldn’t be so busy aboard ship or something?
Or does she know the cult is collapsing but not care? (For fear of disconnection or something? So much for OT 8…)
Or is my assumption wrong, and did David Miscavige have a lot of sea org on the ship pretending to do OT 8 just like her?
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m well beyond OT8. Again, I can levitate my arms and my feet! If this doesn’t scream OT infinity, I don’t know what does.
I Yawnalot says
Oh I know, I know (with arm sticking high up in the air).
You’ve reversed gravity!
Old Surfer Dude says
Damn! Who told you?
Cindy says
Trev Anon, or maybe the Freewinds told Krustie that since she is such a big VIP super star, they emptied out the OT VIII coiurseroom so that she would have it All to Herself! ha ha. Really, if they gave her that R Factor she would love it so much that she’d make another donation right then and there cuz it would really float her boat to think they’d emptied out the courseroom so that she, the super star, didn’t have to rub elbows with the unwashed masses.
PeaceMaker says
First, what’s with the language about “arrive to the Freewinds”? Is that a sign of writing by a non-native English speaker, or just of entrenched scientologese? I’ve noticed that sometimes they use “arrive” as one of their PR weasel-words in attempts to cover up unimpressive and declining statistics, such as claiming some number of people are “arriving” for OT7, when they’re counting all the people who’ve been mired on the level for years and have to come back for 6-month sec checks, not the (presumably small) number of actual new starts on the level.
It’s interesting to see them finally trying to do what presumably would have made sense all along to keep up the level of utilization of the ship, offering other services in a cruise format. Previously, they have offered special seminars, but apparently wanted to try to keep up the cachet of OT8 being the only service offered on the ship. Presumably then it does actually reflect some level of desperation, that they’re trying this. I wish that we had more information from sources inside the bubble, or recent defectors, to gauge what’s actually going on.
Rip Van Winkle (Secretfornow) says
the boat has offered and promoted courses for the unwashed masses since it first launched. “The Route to Infinity Course” was one of the first offerings, from my recollection. They’ve expanded the lecture courses menu over the years, but I couldn’t tell you how many they started with or have now. They were always pushing these packages of a week long stay to do the a little lecture course. (“available on The Ship ONLY!”)
They also pushed the “OT Debug Service” on the ship.
They’ve been promoting doing the SRD on board ever since it became the flavor of the week, touting how you can get through this massively long service more quickly in the distraction free environment. (distraction free, except for the nightly intense IAS reg events)
In the earlier years they used this same push to get people to do the KTL/LOC on board, same idea. (stay for 2 months! only 5 grand a week!)
Leadership courses, seminars targeted to specific ABLE arms, and so on have been going on for decades.
…
If they’d only pushed OT VIII the poisoned prison ship would have sunk long ago.
PeaceMaker says
Thanks for detailing that. I’ve noticed all the course and lecture offerings, which is what I had in mind. I’d forgotten about the SRD, but that’s still not really on the bridge. It seems to me like so far they have limited Freewinds offerings to special ones that aren’t formally on the bridge, though it’s not clear that they necessarily intend to change that as much as to perhaps try to expand it.
Newcomer says
Don’t forget ‘Teen Week’ during which they invite as many public kids as possible to the freakwinds to crush reg them for the See Ogre. What a fun place to be!
Yo Sharron Webber,
Howz your retirement plan lookin these days? You and the groper goin to find a bungalow on Bonaire? Good luck with that and tell Dave you will both likely need caregivers ……….. full time round the clock.
Chris Mann says
It’s just another word that has a different usage in Scn. Not sure how it started. You “arrive” on staff, arrive on course, arrive on the Freewinds. It means it’s the first time you show up there and implies you had to handle things to do it. I guess.
Michael Creger says
Step by step…. the wall will fall
Old Surfer Dude says
Step by step the cult is shrinking.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Step by step, slowly I turned (from the worst opening line in any book ever published, as adjudicated by actual authors.)
Cindy says
Mike, you have such a great way of writing and putting it: ” Think of it this way — if Harvard couldn’t get anyone to attend their university to earn degrees so they began offering dorm rooms on AirBNB to pay the groundskeeping staff.
Monumental, epic, watershed fail on the front porch to infinity.”
Covfeve Raccoon (@Meekodev) says
That line of the article caused me to lol. A crowd of tourists here we’re walking by looking at me as if I was insane.
Happy birthday Mike ??
MJM says
Elemental, cosmic, unholy smell on the scrap heap of eternity.
I Yawnalot says
Oh yes, the effects of the contradictory lies in Scientology, one of the world’s true culty marvels in deceit. I seem to recall reading an LRH ED in the dim distant past that OT8 was to be delivered at all the AOs around the world, no mention of a ship, then again I also read all staff were to do super power too, oh yes and not to forget the Universe Corps. I think we should have some sort of competition to see who can filter out the best lie 3 Scientology tells. Oh I know – the clams, opps, I mean the claims of Dianetics! But wait Excalibur… oh gee, so many to choose from and I’ve gone pre 50s already. WW2 war service accomplishments rates at a highly commendable twist of the truth and it’s not even a religion yet.
Brian says
I drive down L Ron Hubbard way a lot because I have work in the area. The stark truth about the Big Blue is that I see more Sea Org than public.
This is almost everytime I drive down the street. The place use to be a bustling metropolis in the late seventies and 80s.
I was there when they first put up the cross. The place was packed with people.
Now…… today…… it’s a ghost town in comparison.
Note to Dave:
Dave, all of this downstat and crumbling of the church is directly related to you learning ruthlessness and violence.
Ron taught you how to fight imaginary shadows of SPs. Ron taught you that harming people who criticize will save the planet.
This entire situation with your PR and stats is directly proportional to your applying SP/PTS tech.
It’s the application of Scientology which is causing Scientology’s demise.
You thought Ron’s words were infallible. That’s the Scientologist’s first major mistake.
By applying RUTHLESSNESS Dave, you have created your own PR disaster.
By harming families and critics and lying about your behavior, you have single handedly created how society sees you.
Black ops, physical assaults, emotional abuse and blatant lying…………….
By these and other actions you have created the situation you now feel you must battle.
Dave, Ron was a mentally deranged man. He is your teacher and you now wear the mental of mental derangement.
All of your MEST, all of your money, all of your empty buildings are, in truth, your gilded cage.
You have imagined, Dave, that you are OT. But the only accomplishment of this imagination is that all of us out here outside the bubble see you as a nut job.
You can thank Ron for writing KSW and Bolivar. These two doctrines, applied, are some of the root causes of your condition.
But you are not allowed to know this. Because you are not allowed to have an independent thought. You must obey Ron. If you don’t you will be seen as a squirrel by those still in.
So you are trapped. If you look closely at your prison bars you will see they are made up of Ron’s doctrines of violence and make believe.
Your road to “freedom” has become your relentless prison.
georgemwhite says
Brian, Hi Bro!
Very well written. You have written the truth about Dave.
The Freewinds died on July 17, 1988. I know that for a fact because that is when I met Dave after the OT VIII mess with Hubbard as the anti-Christ. Hubbard was a nut case twisting the divinity of Blavatsky into his own brand of evil. The Freewinds could never create OT’s because Hubbard was always dreaming.
He just imagined that he could create anything workable.
MJM says
Judge: Mr. Miscavige, how do you account for your mistreatment of staff, lavish life style and hiring of private investigators to track down former members?
Dave: I was only following orders.
Robert Almblad says
Yes, his “Gilded cage” and “relentless prison”. Perfect analogies. BTW, I think LRH was smarter than David because LRH was able to stay out of jail his whole life and the jury is still out on David. If LRH were alive today he would tell David that all these big donations with nothing in exchange are sure to land you in a steel bar cage sooner or later….
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Yeah, Miscavige is pretty much fucked every way you look at it it.
Newcomer says
Yo Michael Sander,
Now that you asked, I do have a question about one of yer services per item #6.
I noticed you don’t mention the IAS service administered by Teddy Braggin. You know the raping/pillaging/ream job dear Teddy delivers over a cup of tea in his fine office. Is there a flat rate suggested donation to manage the freakwinds pit pull?
MJM says
No flat rate. Teddy comes free with your donation. Let’s get you arrived to the Ship before Thursday at 2!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
The reason Herr Sanders doesn’t mention IASA “is that he works for FSSO.
Sheila M Huber says
“Are you interested to arrive to the Freewinds?”
This is an approved survey with such poor grammar?
It makes the Freewinds sound like some sort of vacation for 8 year olds, promoted by 8 year olds.
It should read, “Are you interested in going to the Freewinds?” Or “When do you plan to arrive at the Freewinds?” This is so juvenile.
One of a thousand reasons why Scientology is just a bad joke. Study tech is such a failure.
Glenn says
Sheila, The crew never received a real education as they’ve been raised in the Sea Org, or English is a 2nd language because they bit the recruiter’s bait promising a better life than they saw back home. This is based on personal discussions with many of them.
Cindy says
Sheila, Most of the SO are now English as a second language people from Europe and Russia;, that may be why the grammar and syntax are so bad. And probably the proofreader is also foreign! These SO recruites come from places where they think they are immigrating to get out of a bad situation. The joke is on them because they find that they are in a worse situation in the SO and are literally prisoners as their passport is confiscated, they can’t have a car, no internet access, and never make enough money to save up for air fare to escape.
Sheila M Huber says
Glenn and Cindy, Thanks for the info. I met two Sea Org recruits from Thailand once, who had left. Both thought the Sea Org was far worse than their lives could ever have been before joining Scientology. One escaped the Sea Org with her life but not her sanity. She was sane and happy before she joined. The other only escaped because he had previously signed a contract with his country’s army. How much worse would the FleaWinds be than the Sea Org? To a foreigner, it’s the worst nightmare ever.
They promote to them that they’ll learn better skills than in college, but they don’t even learn English. Scientology has never even had a course in basic English and grammar for foreigners, doesn’t employ certified teachers and has no certified courses at its orgs. Those foreigners end up completely trapped in slave conditions. Scientology’s human trafficking needs to be stamped out.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Sheila and Cindy:
I must be even dumber than I thought.
I see talk of leaving, even escaping.
Now, I cannot explain why, but in my case the only ethical way to leave or “escape” would be “IN A BOX”.
Now I realize that I did not gain any new respect by saying that.
You all must think (if you didnt already) how could anyone rather die for a cult than live.
I take you back to 9/11 at 0800; New York City: 19 people had boarded planes with the intention of dying for their religion.
Now DM is a pussy compared to those people but there is no major difference.
(Contotinued).
Myrklix says
Just the thought of being trapped on that ship with one or more registrars and the only way out is to jump overboard makes me break out in a sweat.
Wynski says
The M.V. Rustbucket is going to sink at dock. Too bad the Deranged Midget won’t go down with it.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
If Dwarfenführer were onboard, he definitely wouldn’t go down with the ship. He’d merely blame everyone else for making it happen despite all the work he was doing to prevent the catastrophe, like ordering ALL crew to polish the silverware, NO MATTER their TRUE jobs.