Today Oct. 15, 2017, I was curious as to how the Portland, Oregon cult was doing. The place I think has been in the same place since in the early ’80’s. It is (or was) a store front, now with the huge “Scientology” sign. As it was noon time, there was plenty of people walking by the “church” but nobody going in. There was nobody in the place, and instead of having people out on the sidewalk hawking their wares, they just put out a small table with their different material and a couple of very poorly put together DVDs.
DVDs: Dianetics, an introduction.
The way to Happiness, both the DVD and booklet. Really dumb.
A free personality test with the (“Oxford Capacity Alalysis”) in which you answer questions (200) and then come in to the cult and get the read-out, or you can call for a scheduled FREE one-on-one analysis and consultation. Or mail your result.
Personal Efficiency Course: “In just 21/2 hours, you will gain a working knowledge of the eight fundamental principles that improve all areas of life.” There is 8 sections to the course, but it does not say the price.
“Break Through” a paper advertising “Dianetics.”
So, it looks like this is what Portland has come to.
If you want to make the greatest impact on Scientology…go directly the Universities and educate them in regard to the abuses. Show the scale and the 99.9999% of Caucasians within that “religion”. Like one guest said…satire is hard to go against. Use their own policies and practices “against” them just as their policy states this is the way to do it. Use their own policies to show their abuses. What has been done so far is phenomenal, but one station is not enough. Use their own list to show gay values. Show the financial gains that this “Church” gets for tax exemptions to buy buildings while this “Church” could be using their money to help the African Americans to go “clear”. Go to the Labor Board and the Child Labor Department and ask why they’re Sea Org members aren’t paid at least minimum wage and ask for a review of their books. Just because poa is signed by parents doesn’t give them a right to not provide certain safety for youth. This happens every day in Tax Exempt organizations. Take the approach with the African American leaders, comedians, etc., that they are not approached and educate them on how thiis is racist and oppressive. Just like they have ads for centering in on poor neighborhoods for smokers. Show how Scientologists don’t give back to the poor neighborhoods, but just deplete it even further. Have BLM march on their premises to ask where all this tax exempt revenue is going to help save the world.. but not the one race that only includes .001% of it. Turn the tables on everything that has been taught. Continue to put the actors up front and center. Point them out and don’t quit. Bring them out into the public in a steady stream of information from every side. If they’re actors are as proud as T. C. is…why not put some fire under his ass. Use policy that they practice against them. Racism is just that..racism. You can’t sugar coat it. Freedom of religion only seems to be important when it serves them in this “religion” and is not the overall feeling among these groups when it comes to other religions such as Christianity. As an old use of terminology..make it “not cool” to be a Scientologist among our youth and the college educated. If the Independent Scientologists want to still practice, have them start their own groups with it’s own name in order not to oppress them. Go to sponsors of every LGBT and BLM groups and approach them with these facts. Go to the “African American” and “LGBT” stations, sponsors and leaders to draw attention to the oppressiveness this group has toward African Americans and members of the LGBT. Ask them to help boycott Scientology and bring out the dangers of it. Let’s face it, it’s on A&E…not OWN or Ellen. Ellen is all about equality and love for all. Put her to the test. Ask Oprah to have DM on the Super Soul Sunday Show to explain exactly how the CofS helps African Americans in this country. Bring it front and center the same way they bring all the atrocities of former members or the media that goes against them. Ask Ellen and Oprah assist in bringing attention to the abuses. Start a list of sponsors of Scientology…if that even exists…since the membership is the one that seems to pay Scientology’s way. The media today doesn’t seem to have a problem attacking our own President, Christianity, Mormons, Natzis..so why is Scientology off limits with them? Why wouldn’t they bring more light to the abuses of this “religion”? What scares them that much about it? Figure that out and you have it exactly where you want it. And what about temporary homes for those that leave? Why isn’t there funding for this? Just a little naïve FYI from another person from a different “religion”
Beth Brown you said it. I believe you have helped shine a bigger light on this ” cult “. They are a oppressive group of people who are delusional. Those who have freed themselves from this modern day bondage, good job. These people who remain are akin to the KKK they and only they will inherit the earth, of course it will be with Satan. There is no reason for their tax exempt status and the abuses are so easily proven now with social media. I pay taxes for my D.A. to uphold justice and bring those who have broken the law to court of their peers (that is kind of laughable) and take punishment befitting these crimes. And let us not forget the civil suits, that is how they convicted O.J..
I have just written to Congressman Earl Blumenauer, Third District, for Oregon, about taking the cult’s tax status away from them. Yes, I am one small voice, but with the petition that I have signed to take away the tax status, plus other small voices speaking up and signing, our voices will become a whisper, then a normal voice, then a scream, then a tornado that will wipe the cult’s tax free status away for good.
I encourage that you write to your congressman asking them to take away the tax free status of Scientology.
It will take awhile before Scientology comes crashing down. They have a strongman warlord at the top, plus billions of dollars in assets and real estate, and one or two million a week in ‘donations’ from the few poor rich slobs who remain hypnotized and cult -ureized into LRH’s unique pyramid scheme (where only the guy at the top of the pyramid gets the cash, I mean the wins.)
Scientology could probably locate every disgruntled former member and give them fat payoff checks and never sneeze at the cost. It would save them millions in lawyer and PI fees, and with strong enough non-disclosure agreements in place they would sweep much of their bad PR under the rug.
Unless the men in the black helicopters come rappelling out of the sky one dark and stormy night to take over the assets of Scn in toto, then DM and his minions have little or nothing to worry about in their current lifetime, haha. Current lifetime, as if I agree with their nonsensical arguments about former lives, as if the world could tolerate them coming
back again that they have and will return – maybe DM will return (as the cockroach he really is) but the rest of them are just headed for the fertilizer bin of mother earth.
There almost ought to be a word for poor-deluded-young-unwitting-cult-member-schadenfreude.
I look forward to stories and books by 3rd generation staff Scientologists, for when they get out and educate enough to relive and tell their actual lives’ and equally ludicrous details.
Yet again Regraded Being nailed the clueless, “my high IQ coupled with all my valuable LRH knowledge trumps your wog thoughts.”
I remember having real doubts and being “handled” from this burning certainty viewpoint on the part of the ‘handler’ that it was black PR, or rumor, or counter intention. I feel they didn’t even question if there was a problem.
In other news, ShowBuzzDaily wrote that Leah Remini: Aftermath, had 1.25 M viewers on 10/10/2017. The first Episode of Season 2 was 1.41 M viewers. In 2016 the first Episode of season 1, which showed on 11/29/2016, had 2.4 M viewers (if memory is correct).
Them’s real stats OSA. Care to put up your stats for 10/12/2017 ????????? You know, the stats you DON’T show COB.
My unbiased call, using scio terms, is that Aftermath is in a long Normal condition, whereas the scio stats (Training and Auditing) remains in low Non-Existence. So Aftermath, keep doing what you have been doing; And, OSA, just flush the damn thing already.
They have buildings with the lights on and people (some) coming and going so they have not bottomed (non-existence) in the physical universe. In the spiritual universe they have fallen to Treason. At least that is the way I view it.
Speaking of books, I have a question about cos culture. How are lrh’s early works regarded? Are they seen as sci fi, a morality play, a metaphor, or a true story of what will happen if the world fails to go clear?
By ‘early works’, do you mean books that he wrote before he wrote Dianetics?
If this is the case, most Scientologists in my experience regard them as very entertaining fiction. It is only books called ‘The Basics’ that are seen as canonical.
Ah… classic RB! Timeless Scientology satire, it was true when he wrote it, it’s true now, it’d be true from here on out.
Realised reading that one that Scientology is the most expensive game of charades on the planet. For when you ascend all the way up their Bridge (and as staff that’s impossible anyway) you finally find out it was you all along you were trying to guess at. All those years of living another life, depriving yourself of all pleasures, all that sacrifice, learning a completely useless language and hanging out with other players all dreaming the same bs, all trying to figure out what some self professed guru said and trying your hardest to stay on some fictitious path to OT Godness. Only to find out, with all that sizzle, there’s no sausage!
No wonder you can’t reason with, talk to or understand what a hard core Scio is doing or thinking or trying to be – because they don’t know either!
Scientology is a 20th century relic, much like the archaic dictatorship of North Korea. The problem is that they’ve bought into the American dynamic by buying up old Masonic lodges and working with the local gov’t to suppress those who are PTS and ruin the lives of those declared SPs. That’s their main focus, they want to build a facade of reward for those who are ‘well done’ and punish those who are out-whatever dynamic. The problem is that everyone makes mistakes, yet their system lacks forgiveness. Until their membership wakes up, this RB (ethics handling) is what they will experience. Over and over again atleast for a billion years… Don’t forget your security badges at events or you’ll be put on a watch list too.
It’s one of those buildings that has a soul. I went on a tour of the building and it’s pretty awesome. Only one person was on course. Keep in mind that my tour was 5 or more years ago.
Reportedly, SO counts are down from 5,000 to possibly as few as 3,000, though I think there are strong indications of at least 3,500 needed to keep up staffing at the locations that they still have. They must be suffering attrition due to age, but apparently decided that they could also get by with lower numbers to serve a shrinking membership, when they cut back on trying to retain and “rehabilitate” people through the RPF. They must also now have a higher proportion of younger SO, who seem as if they may be less likely to stay long-term; it will be interesting when defectors come out who have some recent knowledge of the big picture.
Lance Caldwell says
Hello Everyone.
Today Oct. 15, 2017, I was curious as to how the Portland, Oregon cult was doing. The place I think has been in the same place since in the early ’80’s. It is (or was) a store front, now with the huge “Scientology” sign. As it was noon time, there was plenty of people walking by the “church” but nobody going in. There was nobody in the place, and instead of having people out on the sidewalk hawking their wares, they just put out a small table with their different material and a couple of very poorly put together DVDs.
DVDs: Dianetics, an introduction.
The way to Happiness, both the DVD and booklet. Really dumb.
A free personality test with the (“Oxford Capacity Alalysis”) in which you answer questions (200) and then come in to the cult and get the read-out, or you can call for a scheduled FREE one-on-one analysis and consultation. Or mail your result.
Personal Efficiency Course: “In just 21/2 hours, you will gain a working knowledge of the eight fundamental principles that improve all areas of life.” There is 8 sections to the course, but it does not say the price.
“Break Through” a paper advertising “Dianetics.”
So, it looks like this is what Portland has come to.
Beth Brown says
If you want to make the greatest impact on Scientology…go directly the Universities and educate them in regard to the abuses. Show the scale and the 99.9999% of Caucasians within that “religion”. Like one guest said…satire is hard to go against. Use their own policies and practices “against” them just as their policy states this is the way to do it. Use their own policies to show their abuses. What has been done so far is phenomenal, but one station is not enough. Use their own list to show gay values. Show the financial gains that this “Church” gets for tax exemptions to buy buildings while this “Church” could be using their money to help the African Americans to go “clear”. Go to the Labor Board and the Child Labor Department and ask why they’re Sea Org members aren’t paid at least minimum wage and ask for a review of their books. Just because poa is signed by parents doesn’t give them a right to not provide certain safety for youth. This happens every day in Tax Exempt organizations. Take the approach with the African American leaders, comedians, etc., that they are not approached and educate them on how thiis is racist and oppressive. Just like they have ads for centering in on poor neighborhoods for smokers. Show how Scientologists don’t give back to the poor neighborhoods, but just deplete it even further. Have BLM march on their premises to ask where all this tax exempt revenue is going to help save the world.. but not the one race that only includes .001% of it. Turn the tables on everything that has been taught. Continue to put the actors up front and center. Point them out and don’t quit. Bring them out into the public in a steady stream of information from every side. If they’re actors are as proud as T. C. is…why not put some fire under his ass. Use policy that they practice against them. Racism is just that..racism. You can’t sugar coat it. Freedom of religion only seems to be important when it serves them in this “religion” and is not the overall feeling among these groups when it comes to other religions such as Christianity. As an old use of terminology..make it “not cool” to be a Scientologist among our youth and the college educated. If the Independent Scientologists want to still practice, have them start their own groups with it’s own name in order not to oppress them. Go to sponsors of every LGBT and BLM groups and approach them with these facts. Go to the “African American” and “LGBT” stations, sponsors and leaders to draw attention to the oppressiveness this group has toward African Americans and members of the LGBT. Ask them to help boycott Scientology and bring out the dangers of it. Let’s face it, it’s on A&E…not OWN or Ellen. Ellen is all about equality and love for all. Put her to the test. Ask Oprah to have DM on the Super Soul Sunday Show to explain exactly how the CofS helps African Americans in this country. Bring it front and center the same way they bring all the atrocities of former members or the media that goes against them. Ask Ellen and Oprah assist in bringing attention to the abuses. Start a list of sponsors of Scientology…if that even exists…since the membership is the one that seems to pay Scientology’s way. The media today doesn’t seem to have a problem attacking our own President, Christianity, Mormons, Natzis..so why is Scientology off limits with them? Why wouldn’t they bring more light to the abuses of this “religion”? What scares them that much about it? Figure that out and you have it exactly where you want it. And what about temporary homes for those that leave? Why isn’t there funding for this? Just a little naïve FYI from another person from a different “religion”
Betsy says
Beth Brown you said it. I believe you have helped shine a bigger light on this ” cult “. They are a oppressive group of people who are delusional. Those who have freed themselves from this modern day bondage, good job. These people who remain are akin to the KKK they and only they will inherit the earth, of course it will be with Satan. There is no reason for their tax exempt status and the abuses are so easily proven now with social media. I pay taxes for my D.A. to uphold justice and bring those who have broken the law to court of their peers (that is kind of laughable) and take punishment befitting these crimes. And let us not forget the civil suits, that is how they convicted O.J..
Lance Caldwell says
Hello Again.
I have just written to Congressman Earl Blumenauer, Third District, for Oregon, about taking the cult’s tax status away from them. Yes, I am one small voice, but with the petition that I have signed to take away the tax status, plus other small voices speaking up and signing, our voices will become a whisper, then a normal voice, then a scream, then a tornado that will wipe the cult’s tax free status away for good.
I encourage that you write to your congressman asking them to take away the tax free status of Scientology.
Ammo Alamo says
It will take awhile before Scientology comes crashing down. They have a strongman warlord at the top, plus billions of dollars in assets and real estate, and one or two million a week in ‘donations’ from the few poor rich slobs who remain hypnotized and cult -ureized into LRH’s unique pyramid scheme (where only the guy at the top of the pyramid gets the cash, I mean the wins.)
Scientology could probably locate every disgruntled former member and give them fat payoff checks and never sneeze at the cost. It would save them millions in lawyer and PI fees, and with strong enough non-disclosure agreements in place they would sweep much of their bad PR under the rug.
Unless the men in the black helicopters come rappelling out of the sky one dark and stormy night to take over the assets of Scn in toto, then DM and his minions have little or nothing to worry about in their current lifetime, haha. Current lifetime, as if I agree with their nonsensical arguments about former lives, as if the world could tolerate them coming
back again that they have and will return – maybe DM will return (as the cockroach he really is) but the rest of them are just headed for the fertilizer bin of mother earth.
Teen says
This is like, hilarious!
chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03 says
There almost ought to be a word for poor-deluded-young-unwitting-cult-member-schadenfreude.
I look forward to stories and books by 3rd generation staff Scientologists, for when they get out and educate enough to relive and tell their actual lives’ and equally ludicrous details.
Will it ever stop?
Clearly not clear says
Yet again Regraded Being nailed the clueless, “my high IQ coupled with all my valuable LRH knowledge trumps your wog thoughts.”
I remember having real doubts and being “handled” from this burning certainty viewpoint on the part of the ‘handler’ that it was black PR, or rumor, or counter intention. I feel they didn’t even question if there was a problem.
Peter Norton says
At the rate they’re going, scientology itself may well become a rumor! And then what will become of all of us and the followers of the Bunker???
Spike says
I did the toothbrushes once…
jim says
In other news, ShowBuzzDaily wrote that Leah Remini: Aftermath, had 1.25 M viewers on 10/10/2017. The first Episode of Season 2 was 1.41 M viewers. In 2016 the first Episode of season 1, which showed on 11/29/2016, had 2.4 M viewers (if memory is correct).
Them’s real stats OSA. Care to put up your stats for 10/12/2017 ????????? You know, the stats you DON’T show COB.
My unbiased call, using scio terms, is that Aftermath is in a long Normal condition, whereas the scio stats (Training and Auditing) remains in low Non-Existence. So Aftermath, keep doing what you have been doing; And, OSA, just flush the damn thing already.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hmmmmmm…millions of people watching Aftermath. Not a good time to be a Scientologist.
Alcoboy says
Non-Existence?
Hell,try going lower than that!
jim says
Alcoboy,
They have buildings with the lights on and people (some) coming and going so they have not bottomed (non-existence) in the physical universe. In the spiritual universe they have fallen to Treason. At least that is the way I view it.
Joetheta says
Watching Mad Men on Netflix last night.
A scene where Mimi Rogers makes a pass at Elisabeth Moss. Funny.
Alcoboy says
Did Elisabeth have her TRs in?
Lance Caldwell says
I love the cartoons, well done, keep em’ coming.
Morticia says
Speaking of books, I have a question about cos culture. How are lrh’s early works regarded? Are they seen as sci fi, a morality play, a metaphor, or a true story of what will happen if the world fails to go clear?
Old Surfer Dude says
What is a meta for?
I Yawnalot says
It’s where you put money in so you can park your car. If you’re real lucky one of those cute meta-maids will smile at ya and stuff and pay it for ya.
Old Surfer Dude says
You ALWAYS get the cute meta-maids!
Morticia says
Replaces Beta fors.
Anna Voth says
Cows.
I Yawnalot says
What has “moo” got to do with it?
Alcoboy says
By ‘early works’, do you mean books that he wrote before he wrote Dianetics?
If this is the case, most Scientologists in my experience regard them as very entertaining fiction. It is only books called ‘The Basics’ that are seen as canonical.
Morticia says
Ah. Thank you. I was wondering if EVERYTHING he wrote was holy writ.
Balletlady says
LRH should have stated: ” I am a Science Fiction Writer & I also wrote Dianetics…..& a few other “out there” books…..
I Yawnalot says
Ah… classic RB! Timeless Scientology satire, it was true when he wrote it, it’s true now, it’d be true from here on out.
Realised reading that one that Scientology is the most expensive game of charades on the planet. For when you ascend all the way up their Bridge (and as staff that’s impossible anyway) you finally find out it was you all along you were trying to guess at. All those years of living another life, depriving yourself of all pleasures, all that sacrifice, learning a completely useless language and hanging out with other players all dreaming the same bs, all trying to figure out what some self professed guru said and trying your hardest to stay on some fictitious path to OT Godness. Only to find out, with all that sizzle, there’s no sausage!
No wonder you can’t reason with, talk to or understand what a hard core Scio is doing or thinking or trying to be – because they don’t know either!
Golden-Era Parachute says
Scientology is a 20th century relic, much like the archaic dictatorship of North Korea. The problem is that they’ve bought into the American dynamic by buying up old Masonic lodges and working with the local gov’t to suppress those who are PTS and ruin the lives of those declared SPs. That’s their main focus, they want to build a facade of reward for those who are ‘well done’ and punish those who are out-whatever dynamic. The problem is that everyone makes mistakes, yet their system lacks forgiveness. Until their membership wakes up, this RB (ethics handling) is what they will experience. Over and over again atleast for a billion years… Don’t forget your security badges at events or you’ll be put on a watch list too.
Old Surfer Dude says
The Orange County Idle Morgue, in Santa Ana, was a former Masonic lodge.
jim says
OSD,
Now THAT is a hell-of-a fall from grace. I bet the walls are crying.
Old Surfer Dude says
It’s one of those buildings that has a soul. I went on a tour of the building and it’s pretty awesome. Only one person was on course. Keep in mind that my tour was 5 or more years ago.
Susan says
funny – in a sad sort of way…
Wynski says
Wonder how many SO members are still in? It must be dwindling every year.
I Yawnalot says
Probably the best ones who could answer that are the razor wire contractors.
Old Surfer Dude says
Yep. Razor wire contractors would be your best bet.
PeaceMaker says
Reportedly, SO counts are down from 5,000 to possibly as few as 3,000, though I think there are strong indications of at least 3,500 needed to keep up staffing at the locations that they still have. They must be suffering attrition due to age, but apparently decided that they could also get by with lower numbers to serve a shrinking membership, when they cut back on trying to retain and “rehabilitate” people through the RPF. They must also now have a higher proportion of younger SO, who seem as if they may be less likely to stay long-term; it will be interesting when defectors come out who have some recent knowledge of the big picture.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
SeaOrg… Many are called. Few are listening.
Python Swoope says
What about the rumor that harvey weinstein is getting “counseling” at a scientology facility in AZ ???
Mike Rinder says
It’s just that. A rumor.
Old Surfer Dude says
A stupid one at that…
I Yawnalot says
Probably twinned up with Rolf Harris.