Look, lady:
DIVORCE HIM NOW!
HE DISCONNECTS FROM YOU, SO WHAT?
DRINK A GLASS OF FINE WINE AND LET HIM KEEP SWILLING THE KOOL AID!
Hoo. Okay. Now that I’ve got that off my chest…….
MOST of the scn marriages I aw were seeing divorces in their futures as it was danged difficult to see each other much, kind of like the “higher status” member of the couple was inordinately sent off on ‘mission’ to East Podunk to punish the lower-“status” member for not joining the higher-status org/dept/division.
“IAS extended lifetime membership🥳🤩. JUST what the scn world needs now and tomorrow.
A useless status game that flat-out offers nothing in exchange for their hard-earned or easily-stolen bucks. That’s fine; scn is finally owning-up to not being able to deliver anything of value.
Pure genius. Scn marketing people take note. Start offering auditing and training packages that extend to your next lifetime. It would be a great way to keep Scio seniors on the hook. Worried about not living long enough to complete your bridge? Scn extended lifetime packages can handle that!
So HOW can scns prove next lifetime that they paid for those things? How could they prove that they were Mortimer Snodgrass last lifetime when they’re Jane Doe 1 this one?
Mike, I reached out to Aftermath Foundation. I had a great conversation with Gary (Jackson) Moorehead. He asked if I had watched Scientology and the Aftermath. Of course I had not, don’t want to be an SP after all. I am almost done with Season 3, and I know one of those people! Too many thoughts and emotions to share here but (and I am referencing the above cartoon lol), as far as I see, they have created their own tomb. It cannot survive on its parishioners who can’t pay any more, disalusioned staff and OTs, and no new blood. And WHY after this show that wraped in 2018 is the federal government so slow to react??!!! I am assuming because of its religious status? They can take that away, I suppose they want to make damn sure they get the hook in. And make sure any of the people they have go after Scientology does not have skeletons to bare because if Scientology can’t find them, they will make it up. Omg…hope to speak with Jackson again.
Ruth, great to have you here Good luck on your recovery journey. When IRS first granted the tax exempt status is when things changed a lot. In the year or 2 after there was great effort in the cult to keep proper records so they could produce treasury and finance records to show they were in compliance with rules and regulations so when the IRS came to do an inspection or audit, they would stand up to scrutiny and be compliant with their new status as 401c3. Over the years IRS never to my knowledge followed up things definitely got slack. Others are more expert than I was. I would bet you a simple audit on church finances would show the new money is mainly going to direct donations instead of services. In 1984 They were sold that our religious mission was to help out people with the bridge. Now it’s mainly to put CASh to reserves, building fnds, ias slush fund, then doing the audit there would show vast over charging for purchase of building, renos, etc. They do the audit and revoke the status. I can dream, can’t I???
I was at the IAS event that announced Tax free status. And I agree, if looked on right now for revenue for (services) and revenue for (what ever), meaning anything that falls under you give, we take such as IAS, I belive if they looked now they would find a different story. No matter what, they, by their own hand will implode them. Scientology is too hysterical, do not even seem to have a grip on any reality. My Attorney gave me a valuable piece of advice once, say as little as you need to in cross examination, sit there shut up, and look Angelic. The very policy of be noisey, uncover crimes or invent them, and on and on, they are nailing their own coffin, slowly BUT I see it clearly (pun intended). 😉
I had $300 for auditing in my account. I had been off lines for some time. In my last account statement, I discovered that $300 had been debited for a public tape play. I challenged that and, as a result, I was dead filed. A totally upstat organization. Sarcasm intended.
That’s too bad aboat $300 for a public tape play etc. I flowed money regularly to my AOLA account towards paying for the OT LEvels there. I had amassed a large amount on account and the top registrar, Nichole Sims, asked if I’d buy something, whatever the soup du jour was. I said no. She kept pushing and I said NO three times. I even explained why I was against it: you are unmocking my postulate to get my OT Levels here, so leave my money on account. Well a year or so later I found out she went against my express instructions and debited my account for those things (which I never got). I went in to complain an get my money but by that time Nichole had blown staff and was out of the SO. The exec I talked to said I’d never see my money and don’t make a big deal of it. So I lost just so she could make a commission.
I was told by an AOLA registrar that she charged my credit card on Thursday after 2:00 PM (the end of the week for stats) $15,000 dollars for payment for another scientologist’s bridge. She told me that the money would be returned to me by 3:00 PM. I told her that if the money was not returned by 3:00 PM that day I would have my credit card company rip the funds from AOLA’s account and that I would notify the police of the theft. Then she would have to deal with David Miscavige personally with her out ethics. Fortunately, she figured something out and got it handled. Sometime later, she got cancer and dropped her body. I had to deal with a lot more shit which ultimately forced me to contact the attorneys general of Florida and California which resulted in me getting “Dead Filed” which means that I will longer get any communication from any Church of Scientology on planet Earth. Mission accomplished!
Thank you for sharing this, Peabody. The fact that she was going to take it from your account for someone else, a large amount, and then have it back within an hour, that is a testament to how
desperate these registrars were. They lived and died by their stats cuz it all came down from the top. Hy Levy said the pressure to bring in more and more money was so intense it made them ill or in fear. So with that kind of stress it is no wonder they get cancer. Was it Enid you’re speaking of?
Yes, it was. Too bad really because I liked her. The pressure to keep her stats up for the week forced her to pull income from the following week (by an hour) to prevent her from being assigned a lowered condition and, possibly, other punishment. I am sure that happens with other staff with the result of getting behind for the next week. I got started in scientology a very long time ago when I heard that Hubbard talked about exteriorization with full perception, and it was something I was able to do at the age of 8 but lost it after describing my experience to my mother who invalidated it with my agreement. My goal with scientology was to recover that. Was not a hidden standard, I voiced that everywhere, in or out of session and at the examiner. It was different then. Made many friends who possessed amazing abilities. I never felt inseparable from scientology or any person, therefore, I have never suffered as many here have. I left twice with a 17-year gap in between. When Miscavige took over, everything went to shiit and is not likely to recover. John Atack prepared a document back in 1984, declaring Scientology leader David Miscavige a “suppressive person” — the church’s version of excommunication and was sent to every org and mission.
This one is funny due to Hubby’s absurd notions. He is usually blind to the scam, but today his blindness has reached epic levels. Yet somehow in the real world of Scientology and IAS Membership many cherch members continue to get photographed showing off their cheesy oversized Diplomas, unframed usually. Others smile, jump, and click their heels at being given some weird new Patron name for reaching IAS donation levels. Perhaps the saddest photos are of entire families who have reached enormous donation levels. The smiling children in the photo may not understand that the squandering of family income to increase Miscavige’s personal slush fund may someday hit home, hard – as in being used to hire PIs to harass their own family.
I do hope a few Scientologists sneak here and read today’s Regraded Being panels. Perhaps it will help them achieve their own freedom medal, the kind one can only win outside of Scientology.
All kidding aside, there’s an idea for something to sell to raise money for the Aftermath Foundation. They already sell SP bracelets which are meant to mock Clear and OT bracelets.
Why not sell Aftermath Freedom Medals? No, really. Someone can design a spoof of the IAS version and sell it at whatever the shop is. Promote them as medals that are for true freedom.
Gabriel, thank you for sharing that my appreciation of your twisted, arcane sense of humor keeps you posting here. This is a huge responsibility. Be assured that I am taking it as seriously as you do. Together shall we soldier on, you and I, two tattered soldiers as it were, fighting the good fight, against all odds safeguarding and forwarding the usage of twisted arcane humor for the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. The time is now.
I have one that will make you laugh. Back in my Kool Aid drinking days I decided I would make my living as an FSM. One of my very first selectees was so close to being able to pay for his next intensive of auditing. He told me he could pay me back in a month. I said OK without asking how he would come by the money in a month’s time. Big mistake. I lent him the money. He never paid. When I said but what about a month? HE said that in his auditing, he uncovered that he robbed a bank last lifetime and hid the money and he wanted to get the loan to pay for more auditing to recall here he hid the money. He said they were so close to uncovering that. And once he went to where the money was hidden, he’d could pay me back. You can’t make this shit up. I learned a good lesson on that one. (And stopped FSMing.)
OMG. OMG. You’re right. You can’t make this shit up.
And, yes, on the face of it its funny, and it would be funny in an RB comic, definitely.
But I’m thinking if it happened to me I wouldn’t be laughing, I’d be furious, and I’m sure you were furious at the time so its not funny at all, actually.
In fact I’m starting to boil just thinking about a well-intentioned helpful person getting screwed like this. Its criminal injustice is what it is.
Thank you for understanding all the emotion I went through at the time. As it turned out, he was on staff at LA Org at the time and he couldn’t pay it back, not from his “paycheck” (what a laugh) and not from going in session to recall where he hid the stolen money. I was most mad that he never told me in the first place where he was going to get this money to repay the loan and I would not have lent it to him had I known what his plan was.
But to add insult to injury, the Chaplain at my org got involved cuz he said I was enturbulating him on post when I asked for the money. She said to me that he is on staff and overwhelmed and his exchange is in by being on staff (ha!) and that because of that I should not expect to be paid back. She said he can give you a few of the R and D volumes as payment. I said no way do I want any R and D volumes, that was not our agreement and I want my money. She just forced them on me and said we’re done, debt is collected. I”m sure since she was on staff herself, she sided with him over me, what with the mutual out ruds on public parishoners. Imagine my surprise when years after that I saw him in the OT VI courseroom. I wanted to walk over to him and say give me my money. But I bit my tongue and let it go.
“Being on staff”. Scientology’s Get Out Of Jail Free excuse. Its fine to be a deadbeat! Its fine to rip off honest, helpful, well meaning public who trust staff members to do the right thing. Deadbeats and their fellow staff enablers, who justify everything with the lame-ass excuse that being on staff covers all exchange necessary.
Staff! The all purpose cleanser of all sins.
Wow. Be assured that no one goes “OT” with this kind of crime dirtying them up and unhandled. People don’t “go free” that way; plaque on the wall to the contrary.
Look, lady:
DIVORCE HIM NOW!
HE DISCONNECTS FROM YOU, SO WHAT?
DRINK A GLASS OF FINE WINE AND LET HIM KEEP SWILLING THE KOOL AID!
Hoo. Okay. Now that I’ve got that off my chest…….
Oh Alcoboy! I thought that when I read this and also when this couple appears here other times too.
David Miscavenger sure knows his audience doesn’t he.
F*** these husbands are the dumbest f***s. Yes, divorce his ass. His stupidity will rub off!
They don’t know it yet, but they’ll be pressured to buy IAS memberships for the children they will have next lifetime too.
Thank You so much
MOST of the scn marriages I aw were seeing divorces in their futures as it was danged difficult to see each other much, kind of like the “higher status” member of the couple was inordinately sent off on ‘mission’ to East Podunk to punish the lower-“status” member for not joining the higher-status org/dept/division.
Send a flow – keep it coming – Make it go right.
“IAS extended lifetime membership🥳🤩. JUST what the scn world needs now and tomorrow.
A useless status game that flat-out offers nothing in exchange for their hard-earned or easily-stolen bucks. That’s fine; scn is finally owning-up to not being able to deliver anything of value.
Pure genius. Scn marketing people take note. Start offering auditing and training packages that extend to your next lifetime. It would be a great way to keep Scio seniors on the hook. Worried about not living long enough to complete your bridge? Scn extended lifetime packages can handle that!
So HOW can scns prove next lifetime that they paid for those things? How could they prove that they were Mortimer Snodgrass last lifetime when they’re Jane Doe 1 this one?
They’ve never proven anything. Why start now?
Dear Jere,
Would you be so kind as to stop asking sane, logical questions?
Our cult considers them unhelpful.
Our thanks in advance.
Much love,
OSA
Two words: they can’t.
Mike, I reached out to Aftermath Foundation. I had a great conversation with Gary (Jackson) Moorehead. He asked if I had watched Scientology and the Aftermath. Of course I had not, don’t want to be an SP after all. I am almost done with Season 3, and I know one of those people! Too many thoughts and emotions to share here but (and I am referencing the above cartoon lol), as far as I see, they have created their own tomb. It cannot survive on its parishioners who can’t pay any more, disalusioned staff and OTs, and no new blood. And WHY after this show that wraped in 2018 is the federal government so slow to react??!!! I am assuming because of its religious status? They can take that away, I suppose they want to make damn sure they get the hook in. And make sure any of the people they have go after Scientology does not have skeletons to bare because if Scientology can’t find them, they will make it up. Omg…hope to speak with Jackson again.
Welcome on in, I commend you for taking the steps that you have.
Ruth, great to have you here Good luck on your recovery journey. When IRS first granted the tax exempt status is when things changed a lot. In the year or 2 after there was great effort in the cult to keep proper records so they could produce treasury and finance records to show they were in compliance with rules and regulations so when the IRS came to do an inspection or audit, they would stand up to scrutiny and be compliant with their new status as 401c3. Over the years IRS never to my knowledge followed up things definitely got slack. Others are more expert than I was. I would bet you a simple audit on church finances would show the new money is mainly going to direct donations instead of services. In 1984 They were sold that our religious mission was to help out people with the bridge. Now it’s mainly to put CASh to reserves, building fnds, ias slush fund, then doing the audit there would show vast over charging for purchase of building, renos, etc. They do the audit and revoke the status. I can dream, can’t I???
I was at the IAS event that announced Tax free status. And I agree, if looked on right now for revenue for (services) and revenue for (what ever), meaning anything that falls under you give, we take such as IAS, I belive if they looked now they would find a different story. No matter what, they, by their own hand will implode them. Scientology is too hysterical, do not even seem to have a grip on any reality. My Attorney gave me a valuable piece of advice once, say as little as you need to in cross examination, sit there shut up, and look Angelic. The very policy of be noisey, uncover crimes or invent them, and on and on, they are nailing their own coffin, slowly BUT I see it clearly (pun intended). 😉
I had $300 for auditing in my account. I had been off lines for some time. In my last account statement, I discovered that $300 had been debited for a public tape play. I challenged that and, as a result, I was dead filed. A totally upstat organization. Sarcasm intended.
That’s too bad aboat $300 for a public tape play etc. I flowed money regularly to my AOLA account towards paying for the OT LEvels there. I had amassed a large amount on account and the top registrar, Nichole Sims, asked if I’d buy something, whatever the soup du jour was. I said no. She kept pushing and I said NO three times. I even explained why I was against it: you are unmocking my postulate to get my OT Levels here, so leave my money on account. Well a year or so later I found out she went against my express instructions and debited my account for those things (which I never got). I went in to complain an get my money but by that time Nichole had blown staff and was out of the SO. The exec I talked to said I’d never see my money and don’t make a big deal of it. So I lost just so she could make a commission.
I was told by an AOLA registrar that she charged my credit card on Thursday after 2:00 PM (the end of the week for stats) $15,000 dollars for payment for another scientologist’s bridge. She told me that the money would be returned to me by 3:00 PM. I told her that if the money was not returned by 3:00 PM that day I would have my credit card company rip the funds from AOLA’s account and that I would notify the police of the theft. Then she would have to deal with David Miscavige personally with her out ethics. Fortunately, she figured something out and got it handled. Sometime later, she got cancer and dropped her body. I had to deal with a lot more shit which ultimately forced me to contact the attorneys general of Florida and California which resulted in me getting “Dead Filed” which means that I will longer get any communication from any Church of Scientology on planet Earth. Mission accomplished!
Thank you for sharing this, Peabody. The fact that she was going to take it from your account for someone else, a large amount, and then have it back within an hour, that is a testament to how
desperate these registrars were. They lived and died by their stats cuz it all came down from the top. Hy Levy said the pressure to bring in more and more money was so intense it made them ill or in fear. So with that kind of stress it is no wonder they get cancer. Was it Enid you’re speaking of?
Yes, it was. Too bad really because I liked her. The pressure to keep her stats up for the week forced her to pull income from the following week (by an hour) to prevent her from being assigned a lowered condition and, possibly, other punishment. I am sure that happens with other staff with the result of getting behind for the next week. I got started in scientology a very long time ago when I heard that Hubbard talked about exteriorization with full perception, and it was something I was able to do at the age of 8 but lost it after describing my experience to my mother who invalidated it with my agreement. My goal with scientology was to recover that. Was not a hidden standard, I voiced that everywhere, in or out of session and at the examiner. It was different then. Made many friends who possessed amazing abilities. I never felt inseparable from scientology or any person, therefore, I have never suffered as many here have. I left twice with a 17-year gap in between. When Miscavige took over, everything went to shiit and is not likely to recover. John Atack prepared a document back in 1984, declaring Scientology leader David Miscavige a “suppressive person” — the church’s version of excommunication and was sent to every org and mission.
https://tonyortega.org/2013/06/29/when-jon-atack-declared-david-miscavige-a-suppressive-person/
Dave, learn how to be more the girl that’s inside you.
This one is funny due to Hubby’s absurd notions. He is usually blind to the scam, but today his blindness has reached epic levels. Yet somehow in the real world of Scientology and IAS Membership many cherch members continue to get photographed showing off their cheesy oversized Diplomas, unframed usually. Others smile, jump, and click their heels at being given some weird new Patron name for reaching IAS donation levels. Perhaps the saddest photos are of entire families who have reached enormous donation levels. The smiling children in the photo may not understand that the squandering of family income to increase Miscavige’s personal slush fund may someday hit home, hard – as in being used to hire PIs to harass their own family.
I do hope a few Scientologists sneak here and read today’s Regraded Being panels. Perhaps it will help them achieve their own freedom medal, the kind one can only win outside of Scientology.
All kidding aside, there’s an idea for something to sell to raise money for the Aftermath Foundation. They already sell SP bracelets which are meant to mock Clear and OT bracelets.
Why not sell Aftermath Freedom Medals? No, really. Someone can design a spoof of the IAS version and sell it at whatever the shop is. Promote them as medals that are for true freedom.
Why not tell them that you want to wait for your next lifetime and then pay them triple?
That’s a good deal for both of us, No? (taken from The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 1948).
LOL!
Hey Aqua. You always bring a smile to my face. You are one of the very few who seem to appreciate my twisted arcane sense of humor.
If it wasn’t for you, I would have stopped posting here a long time ago.
Gabriel, thank you for sharing that my appreciation of your twisted, arcane sense of humor keeps you posting here. This is a huge responsibility. Be assured that I am taking it as seriously as you do. Together shall we soldier on, you and I, two tattered soldiers as it were, fighting the good fight, against all odds safeguarding and forwarding the usage of twisted arcane humor for the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. The time is now.
I’ll pay you tomorrow or a hamburger I eat today, from Whimpie on the Popeye show.
I see a divorce in their future.
I’m laughing but you know, its not that far-fetched. Some Still Ins I know and knew back in the day I believe would consider such an offer a “deal”.
I have one that will make you laugh. Back in my Kool Aid drinking days I decided I would make my living as an FSM. One of my very first selectees was so close to being able to pay for his next intensive of auditing. He told me he could pay me back in a month. I said OK without asking how he would come by the money in a month’s time. Big mistake. I lent him the money. He never paid. When I said but what about a month? HE said that in his auditing, he uncovered that he robbed a bank last lifetime and hid the money and he wanted to get the loan to pay for more auditing to recall here he hid the money. He said they were so close to uncovering that. And once he went to where the money was hidden, he’d could pay me back. You can’t make this shit up. I learned a good lesson on that one. (And stopped FSMing.)
OMG. OMG. You’re right. You can’t make this shit up.
And, yes, on the face of it its funny, and it would be funny in an RB comic, definitely.
But I’m thinking if it happened to me I wouldn’t be laughing, I’d be furious, and I’m sure you were furious at the time so its not funny at all, actually.
In fact I’m starting to boil just thinking about a well-intentioned helpful person getting screwed like this. Its criminal injustice is what it is.
Thank you for understanding all the emotion I went through at the time. As it turned out, he was on staff at LA Org at the time and he couldn’t pay it back, not from his “paycheck” (what a laugh) and not from going in session to recall where he hid the stolen money. I was most mad that he never told me in the first place where he was going to get this money to repay the loan and I would not have lent it to him had I known what his plan was.
But to add insult to injury, the Chaplain at my org got involved cuz he said I was enturbulating him on post when I asked for the money. She said to me that he is on staff and overwhelmed and his exchange is in by being on staff (ha!) and that because of that I should not expect to be paid back. She said he can give you a few of the R and D volumes as payment. I said no way do I want any R and D volumes, that was not our agreement and I want my money. She just forced them on me and said we’re done, debt is collected. I”m sure since she was on staff herself, she sided with him over me, what with the mutual out ruds on public parishoners. Imagine my surprise when years after that I saw him in the OT VI courseroom. I wanted to walk over to him and say give me my money. But I bit my tongue and let it go.
Well, this is making me boil even more.
“Being on staff”. Scientology’s Get Out Of Jail Free excuse. Its fine to be a deadbeat! Its fine to rip off honest, helpful, well meaning public who trust staff members to do the right thing. Deadbeats and their fellow staff enablers, who justify everything with the lame-ass excuse that being on staff covers all exchange necessary.
Staff! The all purpose cleanser of all sins.
Wow. Be assured that no one goes “OT” with this kind of crime dirtying them up and unhandled. People don’t “go free” that way; plaque on the wall to the contrary.
Well said! I couldn’t agree more. “People don’t “go free” that way; plaque on the wall to the contrary.” You have a way with word, Aquamarine.
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already.