Another example of LRH, the promotional and marketing genius, pushing a good idea into a very bad idea. Maintaining prospect and customer files is a great idea for most businesses, more so if you have free labor that has to blindly follow directions. The problem for Scientology is that NO ONE can challenge a rule that may have briefly worked decades ago. Hey Scientology,Keep wasting your meager resources.
RB: Thanks for identifying this new disease that affects a few poor compliant schmucks that live within a few miles of an org. Poor Hubby has a severe case of Chronic Central Filitis.
The good news — CCF is a handy alternative fact (condition) for our post-truth world. — Handy to get a few days off your real job.
The better news, it is totally reversible. Have a glass or two of good red wine. Con passione punch an old pillow a few dozen times, or until the feathers fall out, while swearing “I hate their **** filing”. Then you must a phone to say you are disconnecting from the org. — NO ifs, a to e’s, or buts. Slam.
Sleep well, wake up refreshed and smell the spring .
Little personal anecdote from the 1990s: In 1992 I was the head of Department 5 FSO. Part of if were the “Central Files”. They were of course backlogged and part of my job duties was “to get the CF into PT (present time)”, which meant “up to date”. At a certain point that was physically impossible as I had no staff left in the CF section. So I had to organize “all hands” actions where the whole org would sporadically come to my department and file some of the newly arrived invoices and letters. Needless to say, I spent days and nights between those files.
In the midst of all of this, someone told me that the Central Files from the “ship” (i.e. the “Apollo”) had never been merged with the CF of the “Flag Land Base” and that they had been sitting in the so-called “book warehouse” for the past 16 years. When I went over there I found approximately 12,000 files in old metal cabinets. I randomly looked through them and actually found the old Flag Ship Org CF file of Craig Jensen. “Let’s use this one and do a trial run.”, I thought to myself. So I took the file, walked from the warehouse to the Coachman building, into my department, to the J-section of the “hot files” of the CF. I found the Jensen-file and conscientiously added the precious letters and invoices from 1974 and 1975 to the current file.
While I was doing this an inner voice was telling me that I would never be able to get the CF into PT. “You are kidding yourself if you believe that you can do this.”, *it* told me. At the same time I was experiencing an overwhelming feeling of fatigue.
A few weeks later I returned to Germany and never came back.
The above story was one of the key moments that allowed me to gradually free myself from the organization’s ideology.
Interesting with personal stories like this:-)
How long had you been in the cult at that time?
What were yr thoughts when the cult got tax exemption a year later?
Personally I just couldn´t believe it and felt kind of devastated and still I left the cult in autumn 1982, 10 years earlier!
What a waste of lives. Hubbard really maximized the amount of misery he could inflict on his followers. From the serious crimes to the mundane boring chores, scientology is just THE WORST!
I’m watching the opening winter Olympics, this cult has commercials for Scientology.org, and states “we know your interested” with a figure 8 on its side meaning infinity. Am I the only one here wishing they would stop polluting the world? Why can’t I watch anything without them screwing it up?
Going off topic, a checkout rag this week proclaims that TC has “Left Scientology Forever!” & “1900 Days Enough!” & “Their Twisted Plot to Get Him Back!”
These stories are planted every year or two to try to deal with the fact that him being a scientologist keeps people away from his movies. Usually the stories appear coincident with a new Mission Impossible movie coming out. If you actually read the stories they don’t say what the headline implies.
Well, my boycott remains in effect until I see Tom Cruise calling a press conference to announce he is done with scientology. Almost everyone I know is with me on this.
And rather stupid to boot doing his own stunts, breaking his ankle, just so he can brag he does his own stunts. As for his “acting”, he’s very obvious in his scenes. Same old same old. I recall seeing him in the role as the frenetic brother of Dustin Hoffman in “Rainman” and thought he was brilliant. Then I discovered that was his normal personality. That ended any TC films for me.
His career has been primarily built on what we used to know as “teeny boppers”. 12=16 year olds who “fall in love” with good looking actors. He’s pretty long in the tooth for that now, but too arrogant to acknowledge the fact of aging.
Looks old and ugly on screen now doesn’t he. His screen presence is so 90’s trying to be something he is not. Apart from that he’s a cult jerk dipstick anyway.
You know, it is too bad that Tom Cruise is in that cult. I used to like his serious movies, not the action films. I felt he was robbed of the Oscar for best actor for Born on the Fourth of July.
But I just can’t bare to see him anymore. He is so tarnished with the toxicity of scientology. And even if he did leave scientology, he still has an awful lot to answer for, and many apologies to make… maybe starting with Nicole Kidman, Katie Holmes, and Suri.
Yea. I read the article about TC leaving Scientology. .he saying its a ” beautiful religion ” lol
He has been wined and dined ..been DMs favorite. .no wonder its “beautiful” ..
Never spent a day in RPF im sure
Minor note… Where he says “I still don’t understand why we just don’t computerize or digitize..”
That IS what the CF updating is all about, entering the paper CF data into a computer database.
A room full of computers (the academy closed down to use the space) and volunteers and cheap carbs to munch on while entering the data.
Been there done that prior to the ideal org opening in my locale. I spent hours keystroking CF files….till I found my own CF and saw I had been dead filed!
Dead filed is when they make a notation in your CF (contact file) that you are not to be contacted anymore. It literally says “dead file” on the file, but it stays in the CF so they know for future reference.
In my case it was because I got angry at a teenage ethics officer who suggested I divorce my non scientologist wife because she had problems with the high prices of doing services. I think he did it to cover up the upset he caused with me. I was in good standing and had money on account at the time. I was never told about this at the time or even called back into ethics, he just cut my comm lines to the org on the sly.
Twisted.
There is certainly some irony in the org asking for and accepting my volunteer service while supposedly a person not to be contacted anymore. I was still allowed to go the the idea org opening afterwards and still get contacted!
Further irony…My non scientologist wife was and still is in that same org’s CF, and still gets letters! She did one minor 1 or 2 day Div 6 course 20 years ago and they don’t give up trying to save her eternity or whatever.
She has never called herself or considered herself a scientologist, and never replied to any calls or letters. They used commercial tracing services to update her address over the years.
That is an amazing realization. I am sure most members wonder what crap scientology has on them. We all know Travolta is terrified. (I wish that guy would grow a pair.)
“That is an amazing realization. I am sure most members wonder what crap scientology has on them. We all know Travolta is terrified. (I wish that guy would grow a pair.)”
Most members know what the CoS “has” on them as they gave it to them!
The CF (contact files) are mostly innocuous, contact information, copies of correspondence, notes on phone calls, etc.
The ethics files (which you are supposed to be allowed to see upon request) will have Knowledge reports (KR’s) others have written on you, which frequently are not really accurate, but deal with things they think they observed, and other documents about dealings with the ethics office, conditions assigned and there write-ups.
The real juicy stuff is in your PC folder (Pre-Clear Folder, all the stuff the auditor writes down during session and Case Superviser notes). You are never allowed to see this, but it is your most intimate life confessions. You should know what is in that! You are the one who provided the info.
Of course the CoS, with its totally borked CF, is also totally fucucated in its other files. They usually lose your PC folders in some warehouse. I’m not worried, they couldn’t dig out the dirt they have on me without calling in independent wog researchers at great cost, who understand and can navigate massive piles of unorganized papers.
Who cares if JT kissed another man or something. I don’t.
I don’t believe that Travolta cares about his gayness, or former gayness, or any of his sexuality issues being exposed. I think he just loves being a father. I don’t know him, but I believe he really loved his son Jett and that he believed that what he was doing and not doing for Jett were the right things, and that when that boy died he was utterly devastated. I believe – again, I don’t know him so this is all based on a sense I have of him via decades of interviews and articles – I believe that the leverage the cult has on him is threat of disconnection from his children, and that the thought of losing them – including the new baby of course – is just unthinkable to him. My opinion is that if not for his children – not his wife, but his children, he wouldn’t give a tinker’s damn about anyone knowing he’s gay or bi sexual or whatever his orientation is. Now, that said,on the other hand, I think Kelly Preston cares ENORMOUSLY about anyone believing her husband to be gay. Once more, for the record, I don’t KNOW, this is just a sense I have of him, and of her.
Laughter – It might be a good coined word to add to scn admin and tech dictionaries with a definition liked scattered, dispersed, buttered all over the universe etc. “Things are getting rather fucucated around here.”
AARP tells me to keep an active mind. Word plays help.
Dave – That’s an informative and funny summary above. Thanks! I also learned a new word, “borked” which hit my funny bone. I think I’ll add “all borked up” in place of you now what in polite conversation.
on fucucated maybe you meant furcated, forked; branching
Depending on how you pronounce it, fucucated is kind of a word play
Dave, they were updating addresso, which is computerized. However, CF is still in folders and is filed physically. The orgs have not gotten rid of paper CF files.
When I was active, the org had 4 or 5 different contacts for me. They would send stuff to old addressed and frequently had the wrong phone number for me.
Ironically, once I left they now have completely accurate info on me without me providing it, and have stopped trying to recover as if they know I am posting here under a pseudonym and on twitter.
Whoa! This RB has my homunculus doing cartwheels inside my head.
This guy’s Counter Intention is through the roof. Somebody call him a whaaaaambulance. He needs to get his Confront in so he can send a letter to the ED stating that he is Ending Cycle on Scientology with a salutatious ending of ‘Done, sir!’.
Life before or after is the great. While in and hammered, not so much.
Yo Dave,
Howd them thar stats come in fer ya yesterday good buddy. Time to start countin number of cockroaches in the courseroom if ya want a straite up an vertecal!
Yes….the 3 stooges did, i remember it well…..i also saw something on youtube that TC was leaving CoS, but probably just BS. The day he makes a public announcement of that is the day it implodes.
The conversation in RBs strip is certainly close to home. Talking to a hardcore scientologist requires going back into HubThink mode. Truly mind numbing.
We have all arrived to the world through a mother a father made it into and we are all the owner of a planet together to do the best of in our common interest.
What’s in Central Files? Is that just stuff people paid for or does it include auditing and ethics folders? Also, do they keep auditing and ethics folders . . . forever?
Two years ago I got a “How are you doing, are you still interested” letter from an org where I took services 30 years ago. At least I’m not in a (literal) Dead File.
Looking at the bright side of things and disregarding motivation, it was nice that 30 years later and 2,000 miles away from where I now live someone was thinking about me.
(ok, ok – it was just a joke)
I just found this. I don’t know if it’s current or accurate.
CF, Central Files. “By policy, the names of any Scientologists at any org who have ever received a major service at an organization below Flag must be forwarded to Flag, where the names become the CF for Flag. A major service is considered paying for and completing a level or training, technical or administrative, or an auditing intensive. To sign up for a major service, a member must either have 6 months free IAS membership in existence, or be on the yearly paid membership.” – Joe Harrington.
For me it’s basically trivia knowledge. I could care less if the CoS or an org has my folders molding in a closet somewhere. One thing of note, however. That org had no way of knowing my current mailing address unless they searched the internet. Apparently there are now internet sites where, for a nominal fee, anyone can “research” anyone else.
Correct, Richard. Anyone can get anybody’s address for a nominal fee. All that needed is the person’s name, age or approximate age, and state of residence or a state in which the person resided in the past. Punch this in and all KINDS of stuff comes up on a person. I know because I did it on myself. I did a search on myself because I’m looking to buy a place and I know these websites are used. Anyway, what came up on me included all my former addresses, phone numbers, relatives, social media accounts AND, shock of shocks, a bankruptcy in 1995 – the report said, innacurately. This had to have been confused with someone else of the same name because never in my life have I ever declared bankruptcy. Very upsetting to me at the time. So what’s reported can be wrong. It was one hell of a deal to get it straightened out. Anyway, point being, its totally a no brainer for the cult (or anyone) to get hold of any person’s current address, phone, email, etc. even if that person’s been missing from Scientology for many decades. Costs about $40 or $50 a month and there are literally hundreds of these online companies. They charge extra if you want court records like for arrests, etc.
IIRC there recently was a Tony Ortega blog post where it was stated Flag had 70,000 people in CF. If indeed people buying a major service at a Class V org also get into CF at Flag while never having been there, that maybe puts the 70,000 number in perspective.
Never in here, so what do I know.
And yes, it’s scary that I know the abbreviations and lingo, 😀
In 1992 the FSO had about 125,000 files (10,000 of them were “hot files” = Scientologists regularly coming to Flag for service) and about 200,000 names in the computerized address system.
Invoices of paid services, letters from the person, copies from the organization to that person and other random documents. I do not remember where it was stated but Hubbard said once that the “Central Files section was the brain of the organization.
“… but the guys who have to mail out letters every week won’t let me because it will bring down their stats”.
For the sake of stats, scientologists are doing a lot or irrational things that compromise their future, as they are concentrated on just the stats of the current week.
That comes possibly from a basic tenet in scientology, that says that the goal of man is survival, and statistics are measuring survival.
But that is a basic flaw, as the goal of man is not survival.
Actually the goal of man is happiness.
LRH inserted an arbitrary on Mankind’s goal because, well, he made himself the authority on the subject. No peer review.
His invalidation of any criticism was the statement: It doesn’t have to be true, only workable.
This leads us to the motto of Dianetics and Scientology: Postulate. Publish. Print. Charge Public.
Curiosus, respectfully I disagree. That comes from a company’s usually unwritten policy which nevertheless gets communicated very clearly: “NO excuses. We DON’T want to hear excuses. PRODUCE, and produce CONTINUALLY, or you’re OUT”.
Oh, Old Surferdude? If you’re looking for it, we know where it is.
Every time I enjoy one of these Regraded Beings, I realize I could never be a scientologist because their nomenclature is very annoying to me. Makes me want to hit someone.
From reading a lot of Thursday Funnies and before that regular posts about CF over at the bunker there is one thing that is almost always emphasized: How FUN!!!1!!, it is.
For all of you exes, did you ever find it fun&happy helping out with CF? I understand maybe not deep down, but did you convince yourself that it was?
I am not ashamed to say that the Central Files of the FSO was my universe, the proof of my whole existence, my reason to live. The future of mankind depended on me getting that thing into “PT” (“present time” = “not backlogged” = “up to date”). There were many nights which I spent between those files, occasionally falling asleep on the floor, waking up in horror, continuing filing.
I was told by senior management (and I believed it) that “the FSO could not make it above the ‘Make Breakpoint’ unless the Central Files were in PT.”
Ah, yes, good ole Central Files! If these asinine orgs would only find a CF Officer who was competent and kept the damn files in present time, then these bass-ackwards filing assignments wouldn’t be necessary!
Or, like the husband said, just computerize the whole damn thing!
Yeah, I’ve seen instances where one person had a multitude of CF folders under several different names. Know why they wouldn’t just combine them? Because LRH said in a PL that you never remove a file from Central Files.
Cue the laughter!
I must have done something right, since I no longer get any mailings from the cult, I must have been purged from the Central Files of at least a dozen orgs. Yeah for me!!!!!!!!!!
I should get some sort of commendation from the Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace or SOMEONE for doing my part in saving the planet from deforestation.
After years of no mail from the cult, I began to receive mail again…
I managed to stop this flow by writing “back to the sender, life is much better outside Scientology. Check http://www.forum.exscn.net” on the envelope.
It took about 2-3 months and bingo! no more mail!
I am kind of under the radar most of the time, my brother is now trying again to go through OT eligibility and mother in law is on course (basic books and lectures or something )
I can exactly say when org is having a really bad week or even month, when they start to call daily to everyone and send them tons of mail and email spam.
Our cat is awesome. And we have funny story about her and scn, when I was in the middle of grade 3 and my wife was on the NED our cat got very ill, so we had to miss sometime to look after her. Of course we were sent to ethics, where ethics officer absolutely seriously told us that our cat is an external influence and a distraction and that cats can be sp’s, and he can send us to the pts handling right now.
I asked her about LRH reference or policy letter about sp cats so we were of the hook.
But this was one of the first time when I asked myself what a hell I’am doing with my life.
Hat Write Up: Gittin’ yer ass out of Central Files fer good.
1) Save ALL of your cult mail.
2) When you receive a business reply envelope or postage paid survey, stuff all of your saved promo into it and mail it back to them on their dime. You can also pay for the return yourself, but if you’re like most ex-culties, you’ve paid more than enough already. My motto is “not one thin dime” for them ever again. NEVER.
3) Use a bold colored pen or marker to add cheerful notes to the blank spaces on surveys, promo, etc. Stay ‘up-tone’ and don’t sink to the OSA level of attack. These people are victims, not enemies. Ask thought provoking questions like, “are you happier now than before you became a scientologist?”, “how is your bridge progress?”, “when was the last time you talked to your family?”, “where is your passport?”, etc. Be sure to include a few internet resources like the address for this blog, Tony Ortega, OTVIIIisgrrr8!, Wikipedia, Chris Shelton, Operation Clambake, etc. If you must engage in snark, you can always ask about Shelly’s whereabouts. Or Heber’s. Or any high level exec for that matter. You can ask when SMP will start broadcasting or how full their ideal org is. These things are sure to land someone in ethics, but it might just be enough to wake them up or at least plant a seed.
4) Wait patiently. Your flood of mail will reduce to a trickle. Persist with steps 1-3 as long as the mail keeps coming, but it should stop completely within a couple of months.
5) Live with the regret. The downside of this is that with no more cult mail coming in, you won’t be able to send messages free of charge to the poor buggers stuck in the mail room. There’s always a downside to everything.
6) Rejoice in the knowledge that you are doing your part to save vast forests from the logger’s axe as a result of eliminating cult mail. Also rejoice in the knowledge that you may have planted a seed of doubt that might one day bloom in the bright sunshine of truth.
Much appreciated, thanks. I did something like this with a phone call. One of my questions was “when was the last time you had a decent meal”?, click. I’m happy to say that since then I haven’t received any more calls.
“B” should stand for brilliant. I’m a #5er. Definitely dead-filed, no more cult mail. I’ll live with the regret 🙂 as I would LOVE to have cult mail so that I could follow your advice today. Not to gush but its superb, really.
This is an exciting time to produce a new sit-com for Scientology TV. I am working on some video clips showing Hubbard and Blavatsky in an argument. It will be very funny when it is finished. In the first take, Hubbard gets trapped by Blavatsky who accuses him of copying her ideas. Hubbard responds by reading the “source” policy. As was her custom when frustrated, Blavatsky throws the butter at him.
Teen says
“Whateverize”…..classic
JustLook! says
Another example of LRH, the promotional and marketing genius, pushing a good idea into a very bad idea. Maintaining prospect and customer files is a great idea for most businesses, more so if you have free labor that has to blindly follow directions. The problem for Scientology is that NO ONE can challenge a rule that may have briefly worked decades ago. Hey Scientology,Keep wasting your meager resources.
P. W. Dilettante says
LMFAO. Arslycus.
A little sophomoric humor, joking and degrading goes a long way.
Thank you RB.
tony-b says
RB: Thanks for identifying this new disease that affects a few poor compliant schmucks that live within a few miles of an org. Poor Hubby has a severe case of Chronic Central Filitis.
The good news — CCF is a handy alternative fact (condition) for our post-truth world. — Handy to get a few days off your real job.
The better news, it is totally reversible. Have a glass or two of good red wine. Con passione punch an old pillow a few dozen times, or until the feathers fall out, while swearing “I hate their **** filing”. Then you must a phone to say you are disconnecting from the org. — NO ifs, a to e’s, or buts. Slam.
Sleep well, wake up refreshed and smell the spring .
Nuts_Since_67 says
Oh, yes central files. It’s just what a cult needs. A source of never ending work and blame for why it’s not ‘working.’
Old Surfer Dude says
A source of never ending work and blame for why it’s not ‘working’. It’s NEVER Scientology’s fault. Ever…
Martin Ottmann says
Little personal anecdote from the 1990s: In 1992 I was the head of Department 5 FSO. Part of if were the “Central Files”. They were of course backlogged and part of my job duties was “to get the CF into PT (present time)”, which meant “up to date”. At a certain point that was physically impossible as I had no staff left in the CF section. So I had to organize “all hands” actions where the whole org would sporadically come to my department and file some of the newly arrived invoices and letters. Needless to say, I spent days and nights between those files.
In the midst of all of this, someone told me that the Central Files from the “ship” (i.e. the “Apollo”) had never been merged with the CF of the “Flag Land Base” and that they had been sitting in the so-called “book warehouse” for the past 16 years. When I went over there I found approximately 12,000 files in old metal cabinets. I randomly looked through them and actually found the old Flag Ship Org CF file of Craig Jensen. “Let’s use this one and do a trial run.”, I thought to myself. So I took the file, walked from the warehouse to the Coachman building, into my department, to the J-section of the “hot files” of the CF. I found the Jensen-file and conscientiously added the precious letters and invoices from 1974 and 1975 to the current file.
While I was doing this an inner voice was telling me that I would never be able to get the CF into PT. “You are kidding yourself if you believe that you can do this.”, *it* told me. At the same time I was experiencing an overwhelming feeling of fatigue.
A few weeks later I returned to Germany and never came back.
The above story was one of the key moments that allowed me to gradually free myself from the organization’s ideology.
Stefan says
Interesting with personal stories like this:-)
How long had you been in the cult at that time?
What were yr thoughts when the cult got tax exemption a year later?
Personally I just couldn´t believe it and felt kind of devastated and still I left the cult in autumn 1982, 10 years earlier!
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Great one, RB.
What a waste of lives. Hubbard really maximized the amount of misery he could inflict on his followers. From the serious crimes to the mundane boring chores, scientology is just THE WORST!
Diane Cisneros Kekilian says
I’m watching the opening winter Olympics, this cult has commercials for Scientology.org, and states “we know your interested” with a figure 8 on its side meaning infinity. Am I the only one here wishing they would stop polluting the world? Why can’t I watch anything without them screwing it up?
Morticia Addams says
Going off topic, a checkout rag this week proclaims that TC has “Left Scientology Forever!” & “1900 Days Enough!” & “Their Twisted Plot to Get Him Back!”
Thoughts?
Mike Rinder says
These stories are planted every year or two to try to deal with the fact that him being a scientologist keeps people away from his movies. Usually the stories appear coincident with a new Mission Impossible movie coming out. If you actually read the stories they don’t say what the headline implies.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Well, my boycott remains in effect until I see Tom Cruise calling a press conference to announce he is done with scientology. Almost everyone I know is with me on this.
Aquamarine says
Easy to avoid a Tom Cruise film because he’s always been a lousy, unimaginative actor and now he’s an aging, lousy, unimaginative actor. IMO.
Peter Norton says
And rather stupid to boot doing his own stunts, breaking his ankle, just so he can brag he does his own stunts. As for his “acting”, he’s very obvious in his scenes. Same old same old. I recall seeing him in the role as the frenetic brother of Dustin Hoffman in “Rainman” and thought he was brilliant. Then I discovered that was his normal personality. That ended any TC films for me.
His career has been primarily built on what we used to know as “teeny boppers”. 12=16 year olds who “fall in love” with good looking actors. He’s pretty long in the tooth for that now, but too arrogant to acknowledge the fact of aging.
Wynski says
Bingo Aqua. Ans I haven’t seen a flic of his since Top Gun
Kathy H. says
The only one I enjoy is The Firm, because of the amazing supporting cast. Gene Hackman, Holly Hunter, David Strathairn, and Gary Busey.
Old Surfer Dude says
With a slightly puffed out cheeks.
Gravitysucks says
Mine too Aqua!
I Yawnalot says
Looks old and ugly on screen now doesn’t he. His screen presence is so 90’s trying to be something he is not. Apart from that he’s a cult jerk dipstick anyway.
whatareyourcrimes says
You know, it is too bad that Tom Cruise is in that cult. I used to like his serious movies, not the action films. I felt he was robbed of the Oscar for best actor for Born on the Fourth of July.
But I just can’t bare to see him anymore. He is so tarnished with the toxicity of scientology. And even if he did leave scientology, he still has an awful lot to answer for, and many apologies to make… maybe starting with Nicole Kidman, Katie Holmes, and Suri.
Morticia Addams says
Ah. Thank you. The headlines of the Star read like a backhanded admission of disconnection.
Shirley Hubbert says
Yea. I read the article about TC leaving Scientology. .he saying its a ” beautiful religion ” lol
He has been wined and dined ..been DMs favorite. .no wonder its “beautiful” ..
Never spent a day in RPF im sure
Cousin says
MMM, nice, cool, refreshing Cal-Mag.
Old Surfer Dude says
I like my Cal-Mag on the rocks. Literally rocks…
Cult Free says
Ahhhh Yes.. nothing keys out that reactive brain faster than a refreshing glass of Cal Mag! LOL
xenu's son says
In fabulous form today RB even for your standards.
Arslycos is easier than CF.Too funny.
Dave says
Minor note… Where he says “I still don’t understand why we just don’t computerize or digitize..”
That IS what the CF updating is all about, entering the paper CF data into a computer database.
A room full of computers (the academy closed down to use the space) and volunteers and cheap carbs to munch on while entering the data.
Been there done that prior to the ideal org opening in my locale. I spent hours keystroking CF files….till I found my own CF and saw I had been dead filed!
Left in a huff!
darriddle says
what is dead filed?
Old Surfer Dude says
It’s something someone filed, but died later.
Dave says
Dead filed is when they make a notation in your CF (contact file) that you are not to be contacted anymore. It literally says “dead file” on the file, but it stays in the CF so they know for future reference.
In my case it was because I got angry at a teenage ethics officer who suggested I divorce my non scientologist wife because she had problems with the high prices of doing services. I think he did it to cover up the upset he caused with me. I was in good standing and had money on account at the time. I was never told about this at the time or even called back into ethics, he just cut my comm lines to the org on the sly.
Twisted.
There is certainly some irony in the org asking for and accepting my volunteer service while supposedly a person not to be contacted anymore. I was still allowed to go the the idea org opening afterwards and still get contacted!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_File
Dave says
Further irony…My non scientologist wife was and still is in that same org’s CF, and still gets letters! She did one minor 1 or 2 day Div 6 course 20 years ago and they don’t give up trying to save her eternity or whatever.
She has never called herself or considered herself a scientologist, and never replied to any calls or letters. They used commercial tracing services to update her address over the years.
Peter Norton says
“I was never told about this at the time or even called back into ethics, he just cut my comm lines to the org on the sly.”
What a lucky guy!!!! 🙂
darriddle says
Thanks for the explanation. Co$ has their own language.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
That is an amazing realization. I am sure most members wonder what crap scientology has on them. We all know Travolta is terrified. (I wish that guy would grow a pair.)
Dave says
“That is an amazing realization. I am sure most members wonder what crap scientology has on them. We all know Travolta is terrified. (I wish that guy would grow a pair.)”
Most members know what the CoS “has” on them as they gave it to them!
The CF (contact files) are mostly innocuous, contact information, copies of correspondence, notes on phone calls, etc.
The ethics files (which you are supposed to be allowed to see upon request) will have Knowledge reports (KR’s) others have written on you, which frequently are not really accurate, but deal with things they think they observed, and other documents about dealings with the ethics office, conditions assigned and there write-ups.
The real juicy stuff is in your PC folder (Pre-Clear Folder, all the stuff the auditor writes down during session and Case Superviser notes). You are never allowed to see this, but it is your most intimate life confessions. You should know what is in that! You are the one who provided the info.
Of course the CoS, with its totally borked CF, is also totally fucucated in its other files. They usually lose your PC folders in some warehouse. I’m not worried, they couldn’t dig out the dirt they have on me without calling in independent wog researchers at great cost, who understand and can navigate massive piles of unorganized papers.
Who cares if JT kissed another man or something. I don’t.
Aquamarine says
I don’t believe that Travolta cares about his gayness, or former gayness, or any of his sexuality issues being exposed. I think he just loves being a father. I don’t know him, but I believe he really loved his son Jett and that he believed that what he was doing and not doing for Jett were the right things, and that when that boy died he was utterly devastated. I believe – again, I don’t know him so this is all based on a sense I have of him via decades of interviews and articles – I believe that the leverage the cult has on him is threat of disconnection from his children, and that the thought of losing them – including the new baby of course – is just unthinkable to him. My opinion is that if not for his children – not his wife, but his children, he wouldn’t give a tinker’s damn about anyone knowing he’s gay or bi sexual or whatever his orientation is. Now, that said,on the other hand, I think Kelly Preston cares ENORMOUSLY about anyone believing her husband to be gay. Once more, for the record, I don’t KNOW, this is just a sense I have of him, and of her.
smorbie says
That is exactly what I believe, too.
secretfornow says
“fucucated”
REALLY?
this is a wonderful word. thank you.
Many things about scn are fucucated.
this word is a great present.
Richard says
Laughter – It might be a good coined word to add to scn admin and tech dictionaries with a definition liked scattered, dispersed, buttered all over the universe etc. “Things are getting rather fucucated around here.”
AARP tells me to keep an active mind. Word plays help.
rivercs says
I was of the impression that that was completely intentional; it’s just too genius a coinage not to be. And coming from me, this is a big compliment.
Richard says
Dave – That’s an informative and funny summary above. Thanks! I also learned a new word, “borked” which hit my funny bone. I think I’ll add “all borked up” in place of you now what in polite conversation.
on fucucated maybe you meant furcated, forked; branching
Depending on how you pronounce it, fucucated is kind of a word play
Richard says
As we all know from word clearing technology, use the word in a sentence to prove you understand it.
“Central Files is a borked and fukucated filing system in Scientology.” pass?
Richard says
My borking spell check missed a couple of words in my above comments – sorry
Wynski says
Dave, they were updating addresso, which is computerized. However, CF is still in folders and is filed physically. The orgs have not gotten rid of paper CF files.
Golden-Era Parachute says
When I was active, the org had 4 or 5 different contacts for me. They would send stuff to old addressed and frequently had the wrong phone number for me.
Ironically, once I left they now have completely accurate info on me without me providing it, and have stopped trying to recover as if they know I am posting here under a pseudonym and on twitter.
I Yawnalot says
Brilliant RB. Best chuckle I’ve had all week. CF, where personalities go to die.
Eh=Eh says
OSD! I bet that is your long lost long board! It might be worth some money after all those years!
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey you whipper snappers! Bring back my board!
Golden Era Parachute says
Whoa! This RB has my homunculus doing cartwheels inside my head.
This guy’s Counter Intention is through the roof. Somebody call him a whaaaaambulance. He needs to get his Confront in so he can send a letter to the ED stating that he is Ending Cycle on Scientology with a salutatious ending of ‘Done, sir!’.
zemooo says
‘A million years from now, all you’ll need to re-stimulate a $cientologists is to say ‘Central Files’. A new engram is discovered.
Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch….Niagara Falls!!!
I Yawnalot says
Didn’t the Three Stooges do a sketch on that?
Geezes… you just made me think of life before Scientology.
Newcomer says
Life before or after is the great. While in and hammered, not so much.
Yo Dave,
Howd them thar stats come in fer ya yesterday good buddy. Time to start countin number of cockroaches in the courseroom if ya want a straite up an vertecal!
Lynda Castell-Blanch says
Yes….the 3 stooges did, i remember it well…..i also saw something on youtube that TC was leaving CoS, but probably just BS. The day he makes a public announcement of that is the day it implodes.
Old Surfer Dude says
Now that’s a Super Power! Just go up to any member and say softly, Central Files. Then watch their eyes fog over.
WhatWhenAllWho says
Wow! An “I Love Lucy” reference!
smorbie says
Original to the Stooges, I think. It was already a classic by the time Lucy hit the air. My best is that it began as a vaudeville sketch
indie8million says
Zemooo – “Niagra Falls!” Bwahahahaha!
BKmole says
The conversation in RBs strip is certainly close to home. Talking to a hardcore scientologist requires going back into HubThink mode. Truly mind numbing.
Roger Larsson says
We have all arrived to the world through a mother a father made it into and we are all the owner of a planet together to do the best of in our common interest.
Aquamarine says
Why don’t people with Roger Larsson’s common sense run for office?
Roger Larsson says
Mona Sahlin knows. Hillary is unknowing.
Roger Larsson says
Ron Hubbard, that fucking bastard, fooled me to be the leader of a bunch of clams. What a sickhead he was.
CO$ Money Doc says
You can’t make this stuff up! More GobbledegookTECH (TM)…
Old Surfer Dude says
Isn’t Gobblegook Scientology’s language?
I Yawnalot says
Well, it has it’s own dictionary and all. And it’s a crime not to know what the words mean too. Gobbledegook with attitude!
Richard says
What’s in Central Files? Is that just stuff people paid for or does it include auditing and ethics folders? Also, do they keep auditing and ethics folders . . . forever?
Two years ago I got a “How are you doing, are you still interested” letter from an org where I took services 30 years ago. At least I’m not in a (literal) Dead File.
Richard says
Looking at the bright side of things and disregarding motivation, it was nice that 30 years later and 2,000 miles away from where I now live someone was thinking about me.
(ok, ok – it was just a joke)
Richard says
I just found this. I don’t know if it’s current or accurate.
CF, Central Files. “By policy, the names of any Scientologists at any org who have ever received a major service at an organization below Flag must be forwarded to Flag, where the names become the CF for Flag. A major service is considered paying for and completing a level or training, technical or administrative, or an auditing intensive. To sign up for a major service, a member must either have 6 months free IAS membership in existence, or be on the yearly paid membership.” – Joe Harrington.
Richard says
http://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm
Richard says
For me it’s basically trivia knowledge. I could care less if the CoS or an org has my folders molding in a closet somewhere. One thing of note, however. That org had no way of knowing my current mailing address unless they searched the internet. Apparently there are now internet sites where, for a nominal fee, anyone can “research” anyone else.
Aquamarine says
Correct, Richard. Anyone can get anybody’s address for a nominal fee. All that needed is the person’s name, age or approximate age, and state of residence or a state in which the person resided in the past. Punch this in and all KINDS of stuff comes up on a person. I know because I did it on myself. I did a search on myself because I’m looking to buy a place and I know these websites are used. Anyway, what came up on me included all my former addresses, phone numbers, relatives, social media accounts AND, shock of shocks, a bankruptcy in 1995 – the report said, innacurately. This had to have been confused with someone else of the same name because never in my life have I ever declared bankruptcy. Very upsetting to me at the time. So what’s reported can be wrong. It was one hell of a deal to get it straightened out. Anyway, point being, its totally a no brainer for the cult (or anyone) to get hold of any person’s current address, phone, email, etc. even if that person’s been missing from Scientology for many decades. Costs about $40 or $50 a month and there are literally hundreds of these online companies. They charge extra if you want court records like for arrests, etc.
Aquamarine says
“There was even an old surfboard stored away there, waiting for some guy who Blew to come back for it.”
Gee, I wonder who that could be? But never mind, that’s one surfboard that’s staying where it is, correct, OSD?
Loved this comic, RB. Especially the guy’s eyes, the half closed lids 🙂
Richard says
Yes – and getting keyed in to time he wasted on Arselickus
TrevAnon says
IIRC there recently was a Tony Ortega blog post where it was stated Flag had 70,000 people in CF. If indeed people buying a major service at a Class V org also get into CF at Flag while never having been there, that maybe puts the 70,000 number in perspective.
Never in here, so what do I know.
And yes, it’s scary that I know the abbreviations and lingo, 😀
Martin Ottmann says
In 1992 the FSO had about 125,000 files (10,000 of them were “hot files” = Scientologists regularly coming to Flag for service) and about 200,000 names in the computerized address system.
Martin Ottmann says
“What’s in Central Files?”
Invoices of paid services, letters from the person, copies from the organization to that person and other random documents. I do not remember where it was stated but Hubbard said once that the “Central Files section was the brain of the organization.
Curiosus says
“… but the guys who have to mail out letters every week won’t let me because it will bring down their stats”.
For the sake of stats, scientologists are doing a lot or irrational things that compromise their future, as they are concentrated on just the stats of the current week.
That comes possibly from a basic tenet in scientology, that says that the goal of man is survival, and statistics are measuring survival.
But that is a basic flaw, as the goal of man is not survival.
Actually the goal of man is happiness.
Golden Era Parachute says
LRH inserted an arbitrary on Mankind’s goal because, well, he made himself the authority on the subject. No peer review.
His invalidation of any criticism was the statement: It doesn’t have to be true, only workable.
This leads us to the motto of Dianetics and Scientology: Postulate. Publish. Print. Charge Public.
Aquamarine says
Curiosus, respectfully I disagree. That comes from a company’s usually unwritten policy which nevertheless gets communicated very clearly: “NO excuses. We DON’T want to hear excuses. PRODUCE, and produce CONTINUALLY, or you’re OUT”.
Wynski says
I can believe CF being THE major incident on the whole track. lol
Old Surfer Dude says
Oh, absolutely! Thirty years from now, they might up to the letter, ‘F.’
Kyle says
Old surfboard.
ROFL
smorbie says
Oh, Old Surferdude? If you’re looking for it, we know where it is.
Every time I enjoy one of these Regraded Beings, I realize I could never be a scientologist because their nomenclature is very annoying to me. Makes me want to hit someone.
Zardou Bafflemaff says
In the immortal words of Hank Hill,yep.
Old Surfer Dude says
HEY! You bring back my surfboard, dad gumit.
Aquamarine says
We’re on it, OSD.
Look, we’ve been putting up with a lot from this cult.
Causing divorces, forcing children to disconnect from parents, causing bankruptcies, forcing abortions…we’ve been putting up with an awful lot.
But keeping your surfboard? NO WAY!
This is it. They’ve crossed the line, now. At this point there’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that the cult has to go.
Right, guys? Are we all on the same page? OSD’s SURFBOARD?
“Remember The Surfboard!” is how we will rally the troops from now on, OSD.
We’re mad as hell, and we’re not going to take it anymore.
R L says
From reading a lot of Thursday Funnies and before that regular posts about CF over at the bunker there is one thing that is almost always emphasized: How FUN!!!1!!, it is.
For all of you exes, did you ever find it fun&happy helping out with CF? I understand maybe not deep down, but did you convince yourself that it was?
Martin Ottmann says
I am not ashamed to say that the Central Files of the FSO was my universe, the proof of my whole existence, my reason to live. The future of mankind depended on me getting that thing into “PT” (“present time” = “not backlogged” = “up to date”). There were many nights which I spent between those files, occasionally falling asleep on the floor, waking up in horror, continuing filing.
I was told by senior management (and I believed it) that “the FSO could not make it above the ‘Make Breakpoint’ unless the Central Files were in PT.”
Alcoboy says
Ah, yes, good ole Central Files! If these asinine orgs would only find a CF Officer who was competent and kept the damn files in present time, then these bass-ackwards filing assignments wouldn’t be necessary!
Or, like the husband said, just computerize the whole damn thing!
Yeah, I’ve seen instances where one person had a multitude of CF folders under several different names. Know why they wouldn’t just combine them? Because LRH said in a PL that you never remove a file from Central Files.
Cue the laughter!
Old Surfer Dude says
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Is that good enough?
Alcoboy says
Perfect as usual, OSD!
Ms. B. Haven says
I must have done something right, since I no longer get any mailings from the cult, I must have been purged from the Central Files of at least a dozen orgs. Yeah for me!!!!!!!!!!
I should get some sort of commendation from the Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace or SOMEONE for doing my part in saving the planet from deforestation.
Victor says
You are lucky one this is a pile of scn mail spam to me and my wife only in January.
Most of it about redoing srd purif and student hat
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/cyrill_k/59059924/71316/71316_800.jpg
Patrick says
After years of no mail from the cult, I began to receive mail again…
I managed to stop this flow by writing “back to the sender, life is much better outside Scientology. Check http://www.forum.exscn.net” on the envelope.
It took about 2-3 months and bingo! no more mail!
Victor says
I am kind of under the radar most of the time, my brother is now trying again to go through OT eligibility and mother in law is on course (basic books and lectures or something )
Old Surfer Dude says
Whoa! Now that’s a stack of letters! You’re one popular dude. And you have a cute cat.
Victor says
I can exactly say when org is having a really bad week or even month, when they start to call daily to everyone and send them tons of mail and email spam.
Our cat is awesome. And we have funny story about her and scn, when I was in the middle of grade 3 and my wife was on the NED our cat got very ill, so we had to miss sometime to look after her. Of course we were sent to ethics, where ethics officer absolutely seriously told us that our cat is an external influence and a distraction and that cats can be sp’s, and he can send us to the pts handling right now.
I asked her about LRH reference or policy letter about sp cats so we were of the hook.
But this was one of the first time when I asked myself what a hell I’am doing with my life.
Old Surfer Dude says
Victor, I celebrate you being out! Ain’t it great? Now, you can whatever you want to do. Congrats!
Ms.P says
Ms. B – can you please do a “hat” write up for us all so that we can also enjoy this freedom!?
Ms. B. Haven says
Hat Write Up: Gittin’ yer ass out of Central Files fer good.
1) Save ALL of your cult mail.
2) When you receive a business reply envelope or postage paid survey, stuff all of your saved promo into it and mail it back to them on their dime. You can also pay for the return yourself, but if you’re like most ex-culties, you’ve paid more than enough already. My motto is “not one thin dime” for them ever again. NEVER.
3) Use a bold colored pen or marker to add cheerful notes to the blank spaces on surveys, promo, etc. Stay ‘up-tone’ and don’t sink to the OSA level of attack. These people are victims, not enemies. Ask thought provoking questions like, “are you happier now than before you became a scientologist?”, “how is your bridge progress?”, “when was the last time you talked to your family?”, “where is your passport?”, etc. Be sure to include a few internet resources like the address for this blog, Tony Ortega, OTVIIIisgrrr8!, Wikipedia, Chris Shelton, Operation Clambake, etc. If you must engage in snark, you can always ask about Shelly’s whereabouts. Or Heber’s. Or any high level exec for that matter. You can ask when SMP will start broadcasting or how full their ideal org is. These things are sure to land someone in ethics, but it might just be enough to wake them up or at least plant a seed.
4) Wait patiently. Your flood of mail will reduce to a trickle. Persist with steps 1-3 as long as the mail keeps coming, but it should stop completely within a couple of months.
5) Live with the regret. The downside of this is that with no more cult mail coming in, you won’t be able to send messages free of charge to the poor buggers stuck in the mail room. There’s always a downside to everything.
6) Rejoice in the knowledge that you are doing your part to save vast forests from the logger’s axe as a result of eliminating cult mail. Also rejoice in the knowledge that you may have planted a seed of doubt that might one day bloom in the bright sunshine of truth.
best of luck with this…
Victor says
I’am applauding!
Old Surfer Dude says
I am too. You can’t see me because of my Super Powers.
Ms.P says
Much appreciated, thanks. I did something like this with a phone call. One of my questions was “when was the last time you had a decent meal”?, click. I’m happy to say that since then I haven’t received any more calls.
Aquamarine says
Ms. B,
“B” should stand for brilliant. I’m a #5er. Definitely dead-filed, no more cult mail. I’ll live with the regret 🙂 as I would LOVE to have cult mail so that I could follow your advice today. Not to gush but its superb, really.
georgemwhite says
This is an exciting time to produce a new sit-com for Scientology TV. I am working on some video clips showing Hubbard and Blavatsky in an argument. It will be very funny when it is finished. In the first take, Hubbard gets trapped by Blavatsky who accuses him of copying her ideas. Hubbard responds by reading the “source” policy. As was her custom when frustrated, Blavatsky throws the butter at him.
Alcoboy says
Can’t wait to see it.
Glenn says
Same here. There is a good parallel between the two scammers.