remember the part of scientology that made you afraid of being “interesting”? When, “being interesting” was a bad thing?
So that when you were midst happily explaining something really cool or showing someone something great you made …. you’d suddenly become very self-conscious (“introvert”) and wonder if you were “being interesting” and maybe you should just dial this back and slink away or just STFU and get the other person talking?
….
In scn you were supposed to be INTEReESTED not interesting. A good sane auditor was intereSTED in his PC and the world, Only THINGS were interesting, and we don’t want to be a THING do we?
>>>>>>>>>>
I just suddenly fell prey to this…. felt the withdrawing and then identified what was happening and from whence it came. …(from the vat of shit-nonsense I loved so long)
Being interesting elicits praise from you fellow man and promotes individual creativity as you continue to try to please people around you with new art, entertainment, or even new valuable products to improve the lot of man, etc.. Basically, being interesting promotes individual freedom and happiness in the game of life.
In LRH’s Scientology, individual freedom is suppressed by cutting out all “interesting” individuality. Park creativity at the curb in Scientology and surrender your individuality so “the world can be saved”. Truth is: he attracted people who had these good intentions but he used those intentions to make slaves of them to do his bidding.
Like so many things in Scientology, there is an upside down, reverse process, but always with the intention to gain slaves. Truth and freedom are talked about endlessly, but instead of truth and freedom he delivered lies onto that blank slate of “interested” individuals to make them robotic slaves and lose their natural born freedom. Very un-American.
finding and identifying these small but important things is very helpful to me.
I’m always working to strip away things so that I can decide for myself – it’s wild to suddenly “find” another way I’m still affected and still trapped.
It’s so good to have the outlet, – being able to come here – to say it out loud to others who will know just what I am talking about and will not explain it all away and tell me I’m off base.
Of course, the inevitable cigarette. Not sure why this cracks me up. I used to smoke. Maybe its funny because hardly ANYONE smokes anymore, I mean, its such an anachronism, just about everyone in America knows how unhealthy it is, EXCEPT, apparently, those in the business of dispensing “Man’s Only Hope”. And there they are, puffing away… cracks me up!
And while we’re on the subject, will someone PLEASE tell me how these Sea Ogres AFFORD cigarettes? In my local discount deli they’re $12 a pack! HOW do they afford it? Frankly, how does ANYONE afford it? Many years ago I smoked a pack a day. At today’s prices this would cost $84 per week – Jesus, that’s a whopping $4368 a year! Insane! So at these prices how does someone making $50 per week afford this habit?
Writer Neil Gaiman said, “The one thing that you have that nobody else has is you. Your voice, your mind, your story, your vision. So write and draw and build and play and dance and live as only you can.” Topic of First Unitarian (Minneapolis) sermon this Sunday. Neil was wise to extricate himself from Scientology!
Stan gets punished for being “out ethics.” Screamed at for being “critical” of Oliver and “not taking responsibility.” After being gang regged for another $10,000 and sec-checked, he never recovers mentally or financially, deemed a “no case gain.” Stan is now a “low-toned, PTS DB,” relegated to couch-surfing before eventually settling for a homeless shelter–or worse.
If Stan DARED to warn his cowardly cult “friends” of Oliver’s criminality, they’d write KR’s on him for being “enturbulating,” turn their backs — and run to Oliver’s side.
Back in the bubble, Oliver is lauded for his all important new “status” and “massive donation” as the spineless cultees suck up to the “bigger thetan.” Since all his new followers worship his “Oh Tea Powerz,” Oliver “Twists” this into a business consulting fraud scheme, promising his new flock that — for a price — he’ll share his amazing secrets of money making madness. The supreme test of a being is how to be the “Artful Dodger” of conscience and decency. The key to being a good cult member is; always escape justice and always hold on to the money in the end.
Hip, hip hooray! Thank you, L Con for making this all possible!
That pretty much sums it up….other than … As Stan lay dying and alone, Oliver goes on to OT VIII; books speaking engagements at Idle Orgs, wooing audiences on how he became a millionaire in his CON-sulting business.
Until recently, I felt sorry for the still-ins. However, my patience grows thin for those who have seen this criminal behavior being rewarded over and over and over again — and yet, they stay!
The only exceptions are those still-ins so traumatized by the introversion caused by the victim-blaming “tek.” In this unfortunate person’s brainwashed mind, it’s their fault. He/she must keep looking inward, searching for their own “overts” how “they pulled it in” because that’s, “what Ron says.”
Usually, and unfortunately, it takes many years (if ever) for the person to realize the magnitude of the betrayal and severity of damage emotionally, financially and socially…
” After being gang regged for another $10,000 and sec-checked, he never recovers mentally or financially,” ……….. so he joins staff and signs up for the TTC to become an IAS reg and takes his rightful place alongside the other major losers of the world.
A part three suggestion is that Stanley winds up at homeless shelter after he tells his house hosts the truth. But in this homeless shelter Stanley finds two or three familiar faces from the Org! Having already been declared he is free to talk to these old friends. They give their stories and Stanley at first refuses to believe them but then realize how similar their stories are! A conversations is had where the words “I think Scientology might not have our best interest at heart.” Are heard followed by “I wonder where we could find out if this has happened to other people” and finally “I know the internet, that’s full of entheta!” They find many all too familiar stories. They concluded to leave Scientology thinking for good. One of them manages to get money form a family member to buy an Ice Cream shop on the beach where they close every day it rains to go drinking at the bar where they joking try to find the correct ‘why’ for the low stats this week! Of course, it can never be that few people go to beach when it rains!
Dark & true, RB. This is the dark side of Scientology that is hidden behind glitzy new buildings, glossy promo and Scn TV shows. When parishioners are harmed and speak out, Scientology attacks them and points to this facade. Such is the case when the end justifies the means.
“$cientology, turning raw meat public into ground-up mystery meat for the cult’s poison Theta Burger production line since 1954…Join us: The few, the proud, the soon-to-be-eaten-alive!”
Like your quote Harpoona, “The few, the proud & soon to be eaten alive…” So true & for so many, seemingly no way out! I am sorry for all of you that wasted so much money 🙁 They ruined my life in another way; I was only 14 when signed up for Sea Org. Was never even allotted time to read Dianetics.
Was told by LRH personally that since I was CMO, working directly for “Source”, I was automatically OT. I barely knew what the term meant; definitely got that it meant “cause over matter” (and everything that I may touch, or direct, on his behalf).
Just what a teenager, or “thetan in a young body” needs… False sense of security, false sense of ability to be in charge of a worldwide organization, and false sense of intelligence! Yes, I had a high IQ (a pre-req.) but not the emotional intelligence to accompany.
I can’t imagine some of the baggage you all must have to unload. It has taken me over 35 years to confront my own.
Yup, only had to give up my teenage years and completing the long distance high school education I personally paid for (to be able to legally go to the “Secret Unit”). In the same conversation I had with LRH when he said that I was OT, he also had to define “perforated” for me!
I knew just enough about Scientology, to never pass up a word I did not understand, “Excuse me Sir, but what kind of paper do you need? Um (blush)… I don’t know what perforated is?” I quickly jumped from ordering perforated paper to running all kinds of operations.
Scary shit! And lots of quality time with DM. Even better!!!??!!
CMO Lost, thanks for telling your story here – and particularly that bit about Hubbard telling you that you were “automatically OT.”
That would fit with what I have surmised, that Miscavige believes himself to already be some sort of OT, and thus not in need of further processing or auditing. If he was told by Hubbard what you were, he certainly could have taken that and run with it….
This story reminded me of the one week I spent involved in CO$.
I had an old friend who was an OT4 back in 1979. She was married and they invited me over to their home one night. When I arrived, they introduced me to another CO$ man and his wife who were giddy with delight because they had made a huge amount of money by investing in silver bullion. The price of silver rose sharply from about $5.50 per ounce to $50.00 per ounce and this guy figured he was now a millionaire.
My friend and her husband were drooling at the prospect they could become millionaires just like he did. So they agreed to buy $1,000 worth of silver bullion from this guy. My friend told me that as a “safeguard” they would just make a “one year investment”. She said something about how her CO$ training helped her realize that by limiting this investment to one year it would limit any of their potential losses.
Well ….. it only took about one week for the price to then crash from $50 back to about $5 and needless to say, their friendship with the couple who had sold this idea to them were no longer on speaking terms. They lost a huge amount of money and their friend limited his loss by selling $1,000 worth of silver to them. Of course that couple didn’t come away with much money because they never sold their investment when the price was high and they just stared at it while it crashed from $50 back to $5. Today … it seems like a parallel to the entire CO$ tragedy.
What a mess!
I’m guessing LRH never made a lot of money by investing in the markets. But I’ve always wondered if there was anything in the CO$ training that helped this slick realize that he could take advantage of suckers to limit his losses. Somehow, I doubt it.
It was a good sign for me that maybe CO$ training was not all it was cracked up to be.
Skyler, Thank you for sharing that story… Pleased to hear you didn’t get caught in the trap. Although, my heart breaks for your friends… Do you know whatever came of them?
The wide-spread gold and silver scams have gone on for decades, apparently.
L Con, the “fabulous founder of mind fu$$ery” was very clever indeed when he invented the “religion” with its own language! Words like, “entheta” and “enturbulation” are threat tactics used to cover up — and shut up — those who see and speak the truth (It’s “entheta” to tell anyone if you had a bad experience). It’s a losing situation for all..except CO$ and its criminal adherents.
This CULTure of cowardice produces nothing more than MEST-up people.
Titlewaves, Thank you for your interest. It’s unfortunate that people here cannot send each other private messages as I’d like to explain to some of you why I no longer have much desire to participate on this site.
When I post a comment here, I see that it “waits for moderation” for a time before it is posted. There have been some recent posts here that I felt really needed to be moderated and since they weren’t moderated, I have lost interest in continuing to participate here.
Given that those posts were not moderated, I can’t imagine what kind of posts would ever be moderated.
Many of you will know what I’m referring to. It’s may just be my opinion, but I have little interest in participating in any message board or blog where it’s OK for one member to engage in personal attacks on others without any kind of sanction or moderation.
Scientology is set up with many of the same dynamics and psychological exploits as business and financial scams, like MLMs (multi level marketing), so it’s no surprise that goes hand-in-hand with scientologists being involved in dubious schemes and business ventures; it’s also why a lot of scientologists work or own businesses in fields promoting products of little or no real value and using high-pressure sales techniques. A whole essay could be written, analyzing the comparisons in more depth.
I’d guess that Hubbard got burned in some unwise “investments” early on, as he apparently did towards the end. That may be why he insisted on keeping his money in cash, or cash equivalents, and then particularly during a time of high inflation around the 1970s, he essentially lost a lot of the money extracted from his followers, often at a sadly high personal price to them. Apparently Scientology still does that, which means that their cash reserves continue to lose “purchasing power” or effective value, though at a low rate during times of low inflation, but still some significant share of the tens of millions of dollars that they apparently continue to add every year – again, often at a high personal cost to the followers giving the money – simply goes to make up for the ongoing losses due to inflation, and following Hubbard’s investment policies.
One of the interesting phenomenon in Scientology, is that it originally attracted quite a few professionals, including even some engineers and scientists, but slowly that reversed. Now it’s almost entirely devoid of high-trained professionals, particularly people versed in scientific and mathematical analysis (such as financial experts), in part because rigorous and evidence-based thinking is diametrically opposed to Scientology training and indoctrination, and anyone with advanced education and competencies is immediately going to recognize Hubbard’s “work” for the sham it is.
Keep in mind, newcomer, that rice and beans are an extremely healthy meal. The beans, particular, easily replace meat as a high protein source. 🙂 My wife was SO for 10 years and LOVED the rice and beans diet.
Only one change I would make RB to an otherwise spot on strip. The EO would have sent them both to WISE as a business dispute where they would be raped for dono’s to WISE on top of all other insults.
Yeh, I noticed that, too, but otherwise the comic was spot-on! There’s always arguments and competitions within Scientology between reges for different things fighting over the same public.
As you said, WISE handles all business disputes between Scientologists now. That started around 1983 or so.
WISE was and is a joke on the whole handling disputes thing. Someone would get a ruling in their favor and the person wouldn’t pay at all, and WISE had no teeth to enforce it. Was a kangaroo court.
Right on, Wyn! Exactly! Just when you thought you couldn’t get any more broke, go to WISE for “biz handling” and get whacked for another $$$$ four-six grand — but only if you’re the one who got screwed in the first place. The crook gets a pass.
BTW: You can also get the Blubbard “Gall-ege” reference set for a mere $1500 and “Gall-icy” booklets for another $900…
Anyone have wiggle room on their credit cards? I’m a little short — need these NOW! I’ll pay you back from my IRS refund (wink, wink).
RB – Loved the “patron victimorious status” and the meat grinder!!! Perfect.
Title Waves says
RB does an excellent job of capturing expressions… In this one, the contempt on the face of the bun haired lady is priceless.
Rip Van Winkle (Secretfornow) says
thank you for that last panel. It’s so good to see it laid bare and then fully named.
It’s helpful.
Rip Van Winkle (Secretfornow) says
(off topic, sorry)
remember the part of scientology that made you afraid of being “interesting”? When, “being interesting” was a bad thing?
So that when you were midst happily explaining something really cool or showing someone something great you made …. you’d suddenly become very self-conscious (“introvert”) and wonder if you were “being interesting” and maybe you should just dial this back and slink away or just STFU and get the other person talking?
….
In scn you were supposed to be INTEReESTED not interesting. A good sane auditor was intereSTED in his PC and the world, Only THINGS were interesting, and we don’t want to be a THING do we?
>>>>>>>>>>
I just suddenly fell prey to this…. felt the withdrawing and then identified what was happening and from whence it came. …(from the vat of shit-nonsense I loved so long)
BKmole says
Rip, I think you hit the nail on the head. Always some ratty little hubbardism hiding in the shadows of our mind ready to trip us up.
Title Waves says
Yes!!! I know the feeling Rip Van Winkle!! So glad you brought this up.
My personality became flat, robotic and controlled after many hours of these batty indoctrination drills.
“Keep Your TR’s in! In/for LIFE.” That was the marketing blitz at the time and repeated incessantly by staff and public.
L Con was too conceited to say this is just for Auditors, you really can’t use this crap in life.
Outside of the make-believe world of Alice in Wonderland and the like, this is useless.
FLUNK for having a personality.
Jefferson Hawkins talks about the ruination of artists with this nut-job thinking.
Hint hint RB, herein lies some good material. Although I doubt you’re lacking for ideas.
Robert Almblad says
Good for you. I totally agree Rip Van Winkle
Being interesting elicits praise from you fellow man and promotes individual creativity as you continue to try to please people around you with new art, entertainment, or even new valuable products to improve the lot of man, etc.. Basically, being interesting promotes individual freedom and happiness in the game of life.
In LRH’s Scientology, individual freedom is suppressed by cutting out all “interesting” individuality. Park creativity at the curb in Scientology and surrender your individuality so “the world can be saved”. Truth is: he attracted people who had these good intentions but he used those intentions to make slaves of them to do his bidding.
Like so many things in Scientology, there is an upside down, reverse process, but always with the intention to gain slaves. Truth and freedom are talked about endlessly, but instead of truth and freedom he delivered lies onto that blank slate of “interested” individuals to make them robotic slaves and lose their natural born freedom. Very un-American.
Rip Van Winkle (Secretfornow) says
finding and identifying these small but important things is very helpful to me.
I’m always working to strip away things so that I can decide for myself – it’s wild to suddenly “find” another way I’m still affected and still trapped.
It’s so good to have the outlet, – being able to come here – to say it out loud to others who will know just what I am talking about and will not explain it all away and tell me I’m off base.
<3
Thanks, guys.
Aquamarine says
Of course, the inevitable cigarette. Not sure why this cracks me up. I used to smoke. Maybe its funny because hardly ANYONE smokes anymore, I mean, its such an anachronism, just about everyone in America knows how unhealthy it is, EXCEPT, apparently, those in the business of dispensing “Man’s Only Hope”. And there they are, puffing away… cracks me up!
And while we’re on the subject, will someone PLEASE tell me how these Sea Ogres AFFORD cigarettes? In my local discount deli they’re $12 a pack! HOW do they afford it? Frankly, how does ANYONE afford it? Many years ago I smoked a pack a day. At today’s prices this would cost $84 per week – Jesus, that’s a whopping $4368 a year! Insane! So at these prices how does someone making $50 per week afford this habit?
Alcoboy says
I can hear Oliver saying something like this:
Scientology- another fine mess you’ve gotten me into!
Bara Vaile says
Writer Neil Gaiman said, “The one thing that you have that nobody else has is you. Your voice, your mind, your story, your vision. So write and draw and build and play and dance and live as only you can.” Topic of First Unitarian (Minneapolis) sermon this Sunday. Neil was wise to extricate himself from Scientology!
Make my name BaraV
Title Waves says
I like that. Thank you.
JVB says
The vernacular of Scientology is absolutely hilarious.
hgc10 says
Am I the first to give RB kudos for naming his unseen subjects Stanley and Oliver? Very nice touch.
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bixntram says
Beat me to it.
Zardu Bafflemaff says
The very first thing that came to my mind.
TitleWaves says
May I suggest Part Two of this common scenario?
Stan gets punished for being “out ethics.” Screamed at for being “critical” of Oliver and “not taking responsibility.” After being gang regged for another $10,000 and sec-checked, he never recovers mentally or financially, deemed a “no case gain.” Stan is now a “low-toned, PTS DB,” relegated to couch-surfing before eventually settling for a homeless shelter–or worse.
If Stan DARED to warn his cowardly cult “friends” of Oliver’s criminality, they’d write KR’s on him for being “enturbulating,” turn their backs — and run to Oliver’s side.
Back in the bubble, Oliver is lauded for his all important new “status” and “massive donation” as the spineless cultees suck up to the “bigger thetan.” Since all his new followers worship his “Oh Tea Powerz,” Oliver “Twists” this into a business consulting fraud scheme, promising his new flock that — for a price — he’ll share his amazing secrets of money making madness. The supreme test of a being is how to be the “Artful Dodger” of conscience and decency. The key to being a good cult member is; always escape justice and always hold on to the money in the end.
Hip, hip hooray! Thank you, L Con for making this all possible!
Idle Morgue says
Spot on Title wave
Spot on!
TitleWaves says
TY, Idle.
That pretty much sums it up….other than … As Stan lay dying and alone, Oliver goes on to OT VIII; books speaking engagements at Idle Orgs, wooing audiences on how he became a millionaire in his CON-sulting business.
Until recently, I felt sorry for the still-ins. However, my patience grows thin for those who have seen this criminal behavior being rewarded over and over and over again — and yet, they stay!
The only exceptions are those still-ins so traumatized by the introversion caused by the victim-blaming “tek.” In this unfortunate person’s brainwashed mind, it’s their fault. He/she must keep looking inward, searching for their own “overts” how “they pulled it in” because that’s, “what Ron says.”
Usually, and unfortunately, it takes many years (if ever) for the person to realize the magnitude of the betrayal and severity of damage emotionally, financially and socially…
Again, RB, Great job with this one!
Newcomer says
” After being gang regged for another $10,000 and sec-checked, he never recovers mentally or financially,” ……….. so he joins staff and signs up for the TTC to become an IAS reg and takes his rightful place alongside the other major losers of the world.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
Titlewave, you are not far off the mark. In scientology, the poop rises to the top.
MostEthicalPimp says
A part three suggestion is that Stanley winds up at homeless shelter after he tells his house hosts the truth. But in this homeless shelter Stanley finds two or three familiar faces from the Org! Having already been declared he is free to talk to these old friends. They give their stories and Stanley at first refuses to believe them but then realize how similar their stories are! A conversations is had where the words “I think Scientology might not have our best interest at heart.” Are heard followed by “I wonder where we could find out if this has happened to other people” and finally “I know the internet, that’s full of entheta!” They find many all too familiar stories. They concluded to leave Scientology thinking for good. One of them manages to get money form a family member to buy an Ice Cream shop on the beach where they close every day it rains to go drinking at the bar where they joking try to find the correct ‘why’ for the low stats this week! Of course, it can never be that few people go to beach when it rains!
TitleWaves says
I just talked to Stan. He loves the idea but prefers a gelato store over an ice cream shop.. His friend, Guido and others concur.
That would be delicious!
gtsix says
Savages. That’s all I can think of. No respect, no concern, no compassion, nothing but savagery against their “own kind”.
Old Surfer Dude says
It’s fun watching them go after each other’s throats.
Sortingitout says
Good one RB. “What tangled web we weave”. Hey! Can I get on this rejuvenating water thing?
Old Surfer Dude says
You sure can! And it’s only $5 a sip!
WhatWall says
Dark & true, RB. This is the dark side of Scientology that is hidden behind glitzy new buildings, glossy promo and Scn TV shows. When parishioners are harmed and speak out, Scientology attacks them and points to this facade. Such is the case when the end justifies the means.
Harpoona Frittata says
“$cientology, turning raw meat public into ground-up mystery meat for the cult’s poison Theta Burger production line since 1954…Join us: The few, the proud, the soon-to-be-eaten-alive!”
CMO LOST says
Like your quote Harpoona, “The few, the proud & soon to be eaten alive…” So true & for so many, seemingly no way out! I am sorry for all of you that wasted so much money 🙁 They ruined my life in another way; I was only 14 when signed up for Sea Org. Was never even allotted time to read Dianetics.
Briget62 says
Probably just as well. Less garbage to empty out of your head now. *cyber hugs*
CMO Lost says
Thanks for the reply and cyber hugs to you as well
🙂
CMO Lost says
Was told by LRH personally that since I was CMO, working directly for “Source”, I was automatically OT. I barely knew what the term meant; definitely got that it meant “cause over matter” (and everything that I may touch, or direct, on his behalf).
Just what a teenager, or “thetan in a young body” needs… False sense of security, false sense of ability to be in charge of a worldwide organization, and false sense of intelligence! Yes, I had a high IQ (a pre-req.) but not the emotional intelligence to accompany.
I can’t imagine some of the baggage you all must have to unload. It has taken me over 35 years to confront my own.
I will say, LRH created his own nemesis in DM.
Old Surfer Dude says
Already OT?! Without going through the levels? Will that saves quite a bit money.
CMO Lost says
Yup, only had to give up my teenage years and completing the long distance high school education I personally paid for (to be able to legally go to the “Secret Unit”). In the same conversation I had with LRH when he said that I was OT, he also had to define “perforated” for me!
I knew just enough about Scientology, to never pass up a word I did not understand, “Excuse me Sir, but what kind of paper do you need? Um (blush)… I don’t know what perforated is?” I quickly jumped from ordering perforated paper to running all kinds of operations.
Scary shit! And lots of quality time with DM. Even better!!!??!!
PeaceMaker says
CMO Lost, thanks for telling your story here – and particularly that bit about Hubbard telling you that you were “automatically OT.”
That would fit with what I have surmised, that Miscavige believes himself to already be some sort of OT, and thus not in need of further processing or auditing. If he was told by Hubbard what you were, he certainly could have taken that and run with it….
Skyler says
This story reminded me of the one week I spent involved in CO$.
I had an old friend who was an OT4 back in 1979. She was married and they invited me over to their home one night. When I arrived, they introduced me to another CO$ man and his wife who were giddy with delight because they had made a huge amount of money by investing in silver bullion. The price of silver rose sharply from about $5.50 per ounce to $50.00 per ounce and this guy figured he was now a millionaire.
My friend and her husband were drooling at the prospect they could become millionaires just like he did. So they agreed to buy $1,000 worth of silver bullion from this guy. My friend told me that as a “safeguard” they would just make a “one year investment”. She said something about how her CO$ training helped her realize that by limiting this investment to one year it would limit any of their potential losses.
Well ….. it only took about one week for the price to then crash from $50 back to about $5 and needless to say, their friendship with the couple who had sold this idea to them were no longer on speaking terms. They lost a huge amount of money and their friend limited his loss by selling $1,000 worth of silver to them. Of course that couple didn’t come away with much money because they never sold their investment when the price was high and they just stared at it while it crashed from $50 back to $5. Today … it seems like a parallel to the entire CO$ tragedy.
What a mess!
I’m guessing LRH never made a lot of money by investing in the markets. But I’ve always wondered if there was anything in the CO$ training that helped this slick realize that he could take advantage of suckers to limit his losses. Somehow, I doubt it.
It was a good sign for me that maybe CO$ training was not all it was cracked up to be.
TitleWaves says
Skyler, Thank you for sharing that story… Pleased to hear you didn’t get caught in the trap. Although, my heart breaks for your friends… Do you know whatever came of them?
The wide-spread gold and silver scams have gone on for decades, apparently.
L Con, the “fabulous founder of mind fu$$ery” was very clever indeed when he invented the “religion” with its own language! Words like, “entheta” and “enturbulation” are threat tactics used to cover up — and shut up — those who see and speak the truth (It’s “entheta” to tell anyone if you had a bad experience). It’s a losing situation for all..except CO$ and its criminal adherents.
This CULTure of cowardice produces nothing more than MEST-up people.
Skyler says
Titlewaves, Thank you for your interest. It’s unfortunate that people here cannot send each other private messages as I’d like to explain to some of you why I no longer have much desire to participate on this site.
When I post a comment here, I see that it “waits for moderation” for a time before it is posted. There have been some recent posts here that I felt really needed to be moderated and since they weren’t moderated, I have lost interest in continuing to participate here.
Given that those posts were not moderated, I can’t imagine what kind of posts would ever be moderated.
Many of you will know what I’m referring to. It’s may just be my opinion, but I have little interest in participating in any message board or blog where it’s OK for one member to engage in personal attacks on others without any kind of sanction or moderation.
I wish you all the very best.
TitleWaves says
Perfect example of how you can take a person out of the cult
but you can’t always take the cult out of a person.
Such is the case with those who engage personal attacks.
PeaceMaker says
Scientology is set up with many of the same dynamics and psychological exploits as business and financial scams, like MLMs (multi level marketing), so it’s no surprise that goes hand-in-hand with scientologists being involved in dubious schemes and business ventures; it’s also why a lot of scientologists work or own businesses in fields promoting products of little or no real value and using high-pressure sales techniques. A whole essay could be written, analyzing the comparisons in more depth.
I’d guess that Hubbard got burned in some unwise “investments” early on, as he apparently did towards the end. That may be why he insisted on keeping his money in cash, or cash equivalents, and then particularly during a time of high inflation around the 1970s, he essentially lost a lot of the money extracted from his followers, often at a sadly high personal price to them. Apparently Scientology still does that, which means that their cash reserves continue to lose “purchasing power” or effective value, though at a low rate during times of low inflation, but still some significant share of the tens of millions of dollars that they apparently continue to add every year – again, often at a high personal cost to the followers giving the money – simply goes to make up for the ongoing losses due to inflation, and following Hubbard’s investment policies.
One of the interesting phenomenon in Scientology, is that it originally attracted quite a few professionals, including even some engineers and scientists, but slowly that reversed. Now it’s almost entirely devoid of high-trained professionals, particularly people versed in scientific and mathematical analysis (such as financial experts), in part because rigorous and evidence-based thinking is diametrically opposed to Scientology training and indoctrination, and anyone with advanced education and competencies is immediately going to recognize Hubbard’s “work” for the sham it is.
MJM says
Looks like the only way they can bring in raw meat.
Old Surfer Dude says
Yep…grind them up and throw them into the Idle Morgues.
TitleWaves says
Grill them long and slow with lots of (dangling) carrots until VWD (very well done).
There should be some sort of service here–at least a pretense of one?
Newcomer says
And as we all know, the unethical officers are very very raw. And most are also not very meaty ……having to exist on rice, beans and no sleep.
Peter says
Keep in mind, newcomer, that rice and beans are an extremely healthy meal. The beans, particular, easily replace meat as a high protein source. 🙂 My wife was SO for 10 years and LOVED the rice and beans diet.
Wynski says
Only one change I would make RB to an otherwise spot on strip. The EO would have sent them both to WISE as a business dispute where they would be raped for dono’s to WISE on top of all other insults.
Sheila M Huber says
Yeh, I noticed that, too, but otherwise the comic was spot-on! There’s always arguments and competitions within Scientology between reges for different things fighting over the same public.
As you said, WISE handles all business disputes between Scientologists now. That started around 1983 or so.
ctempster says
WISE was and is a joke on the whole handling disputes thing. Someone would get a ruling in their favor and the person wouldn’t pay at all, and WISE had no teeth to enforce it. Was a kangaroo court.
Old Surfer Dude says
WISE was a racket. And a profitable one at that.
TitleWaves says
Right on, Wyn! Exactly! Just when you thought you couldn’t get any more broke, go to WISE for “biz handling” and get whacked for another $$$$ four-six grand — but only if you’re the one who got screwed in the first place. The crook gets a pass.
BTW: You can also get the Blubbard “Gall-ege” reference set for a mere $1500 and “Gall-icy” booklets for another $900…
Anyone have wiggle room on their credit cards? I’m a little short — need these NOW! I’ll pay you back from my IRS refund (wink, wink).
RB – Loved the “patron victimorious status” and the meat grinder!!! Perfect.
Mary Kahn says
Exactly right with that meat grinder.
Cat W. says
“Exactly right with that meat grinder.”
Yes! Though in the interest of accurate use of language, I want “so-called” inserted between “Scientology” and “ethics” in all cases.
xenu's son says
Thanks,RB.
Make you feel you are still in and overhearing this.
I Yawnalot says
Gee RB, I thought you’d give us something satirical and funny this week, not standard Scientology!
Old Surfer Dude says
LMAO! Nice!