I’m reading Marc Headley’s book “Blown For Good”. He tells a story of a staff member at the int base whose real name is Pure Power Coleman and everyone called him Power.
You also need to know that there are two drills at the base that sets the stage for the story.
The Power Drill is called whenever the base loses power. The object of the drill is to switch off all the power which feeds the base to prevent a massive surge when power is restored by the power company.
The second is the Blow Drill which has the purpose to recover any staff member who leaves the base without authorization (a blow).
So, one day, Power gets a message from his girlfriend that she needs to see him right away. He panics thinking that she wants to break up with him. Power has no personal identification, no driver license, no car, no phone, no nothing. But he does have with him a Blockbuster card he borrowed from a guy named Peter Cook.
He thinks he can make it to wherever she is within in a fifteen-minute window if he runs all the way and he should be able to make it back before he is reported missing. He had not had much to eat but he did swallow a glass of orange juice. It is very hot outside, maybe 100 degrees. He doesn’t make it. Somewhere along the way he passed out and fell face down on gravel. He wakes up in a hospital all bruised. The doctor had no information on who this guy is. All he knows is that his name is Peter Cook from the Blockbuster card.
He doesn’t remember what happened or how he got to the hospital. The doctor thought he should order a tox screen for Peter Cook.
In the meantime, there is a power outage at the base. Staff is ordered to do the Power Drill.
Finally, the doctor asks him if there is someone to call. Power answers yes and gives 1 800 I WANT HELP. Power is relieved since he was finally able to answer a question. The doctor calls the number and security answers. The doctor tells the person that Peter Cook is in the hospital.
Security makes a check and finds Peter Cook on post. After sort-out it is realized that Power is missing. A Blow Drill is ordered to find Power.
Do you see where this is going?
After the Power Drill was completed that staff was ordered to go back on post since they did not require power to do their jobs. The people on the Blow Drill to find Power were confused as they had yet received word that Power was back on the base, Pure Power that is.
Power finally returns to the base and is told to get some identification and to memorize his address.
His girlfriend decides not to breakup with Power and they get married because she finds him quite interesting now (or she thinks that someone needs to take care of him).
Sometime later, Power goes out-2D with another staff member and those two get sent to the RPF.
Folks, you can’t make this shit up.
Marc tells this story better than I. It’s in his book, “Blown For Good”.
Pure Power plopped on a patch of pebbled pavement. If Pure Power plopped a patch of pebbled pavement, where’s the patch of pebbled pavement Pure Power plopped?
Thank you, RB!
And now we present,
THE ADVENTURES OF BOB, MARY, AND SHAHEEN.
(phone rings)
Bob: Hello?
Shaheen: Hi, Bob! This is Shaheen from the org……..
Bob (under his breath) Oh,shit!
Shaheen:………calling to let you know about our Way To Happiness event being held this Saturday. Our Dear Leader, David Miscavige, will be giving us a briefing on……….
Bob: Just a minute, Shaheen. This wouldn’t happen to be another fundraiser, would it?
Shaheen: ……..how saturating the world with the Way To Happiness will usher in a Scientology age! We need………….
Bob: You didn’t answer my question, Shaheen!
Shaheen: …….as many public to attend as possible. We all need to stand behind our Dear Leader……..
Bob: WILL YOU PUT DOWN THE DAMN PATTER AND ANSWER MY QUESTION, SHAHEEN?!!!!!!!!!
Shaheen:……….who, as exalted leader of the MEST Universe………
Bob: SHAHEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mary (mouthing): Put the phone down, Bob! Put it down now!
Bob: I’m going to keep running TR3 until you answer my question!
Shaheen: ……….is in a position to bring about……….
Mary (takes phone from Bob): Go fuck yourself, Shaheen (hangs up phone).
Bob: You realize you may have gotten us declared?
Mary: Good. Maybe we’ll be solvent for once.
Oh Grand Pubah of the Mike Rinder’s blog comments……my comments will not show right away…even if I type in test….etc…..help me…I am not “techno savvy”….have pity on an old woman.
Ballet Lady, I am no techie myself but I think there are some issues being worked on regarding that. I see your posts… though I’m not sure how soon after you write that they actually show up.
No comment! And herein lies the rub. I never make comments on subjects that I think have detracted from Scientology, such as donations, unnecessary heavy ethics, “new” group think etc. In fact you can all go at it to your evil heart’s content. I won’t join in as it is getting you all nowhere but I assume it is somehow assuaging your massive mounds of overts when you can all have a good natter and is bringing more peace to the world and all that (not really though eh?) Debbie Cook’s email stated it all (in a reasoned rather than vitriolic fashion).
And lastly, do not state the name of the Lord thy R6 God in vain, or summon him from the depths of your living hell. “He” will appear but only when necessary to wreak terrible vengeance and retribution on those who will spontaneously combust when doing silly versions of OTVIII. And I am negotiating a contract with Mike on a retainer basis that when the comments stats are down, only he may summon me to liven things up again.
Thou must now wear a horse hair shirt for a week in penance for trying to summon me!
Haha! When LRH wrote “Critics of Scientology”, for decorum’s sake he left out “Wynski, the Al Capone of critics” and invented the phrase “yip-yapping running bird dog hyena” to replace this. LRH was very nice and realized that about 2.5 % of people were hopeless cases but nevertheless didn’t call such beings what he usually and rightly called these people when on the bridge of the Apollo, out of earshot of sensitive souls.
Anyone who disagreed with Hubbard was deemed a “critic” = enemy = SP. And he had a LOT of names for them. And a lot of labels. It’s one of the most noteworthy things about him, his absolute certainty that he was right and anyone who didn’t see things his way were categorized as the worst scum of humanity.
That is what you call hubris. Or arrogance. Or NPD.
I see you are now juxtaposing the NPD (the current Nazi faction party in Germany) to my comments or stance! How adroit of you eh? In this comments section (and some of your stories) – that are somewhat akin to the Stalinist show trials and Politburo so warped is the content, you of course have absolute certainty that you and others commenting here are absolutely right and never do name-calling and labeling. Or what?
Is such then not hubris, arrogance, or NPD? The irony eh? Or “good for the goose but not the gander”?
Mike Rindersays
NPD is Narcissistic Personality Disorder. No idea what it is in Germany.
No need to leap off the cliff of logic for thus. Just clear up your misunderstood. Had you looked it up you would have found the definition (and it would have fit). You are the standard tech guy right?
Foolproofsays
I am not familiar with obscure and usually meaningless psychiatric terms and didn’t know that, but of course you would have come across such terms with the comments on here. How daft of me not to know that eh? And NPD nevertheless does fit (to my comment to you).
Mike Rindersays
Right to the bitter end as always. This is no obscure psychiatric term. It’s very common in popular culture these days. Have u ever been on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook?
Foolproofsays
Haha – no sorry I don’t frequent such sites as they are full of obscure psychiatric terms (and lunatics!) Just joking! And bitter – moi?
Wynskisays
PERFECT reply Logicproof. As pper your psychosis
His 2.5% estimate morphed into more like 95% after he’d finished declaring all those S.H. staff that helped him build that org in the 60’s.
He was much like Stalin in that regard. Paranoid and saw would be assassins everywhere.
Wynski, I got it, but the various toxic policies created by LRH (Fair Game, Disconnection, “Attack, Never Defend”) and the criminal actions of LRH himself are other issues requiring other questions, and, frankly I’m not up to this kind of challenge with Foolproof at the moment!
When I’m gathering data, I like to operate on what I know.
Wynski, your experience in Scientology was vastly different from mine.
You were someone with power in the Sea Org. You had access, or possibly were in charge of monitoring, upper level statistics for the entire organization world wide. For however long you had it this was a very high position. You saw a lot, first hand, that I never saw. So, even though I don’t always understand your viewpoints and opinions, I listen to them because you were THERE, in the thick of it, for a while. You knew, or at least were familiar with LRH when he was alive. You SAW things, first hand. That’s a big deal. That’s no small thing, seeing up close and personal, the action WHILE it is happening. So I listen to you, and I respect you, even though I don’t always understand your – I’ll call it “fierceness” I’m not qualified to judge it, because all I know of LRKH is what he wrote and what other people wrote and write about him, while you were THERE.
That said, I also had my experience, limited as it was to having been always a public, its true, but it was my experience, and as such I respect it, and as such I listen to it too, because it all goes into the same data gathering “bin”.
I’m trying to figure out what Foolproof’s angle is. I could be wrong but I don’t think he’s OSA., I’m inclined to think he’s an Indie Scientologist who enjoys verbal sparring, a lot. An Indie who, if he were not doing this with us, would be mentally exercising like this with family or friends – a kind of fencing, if you will. But for him (I think FP is a man) I think its more of a blood sport – boxing, bullfighting.
But again I could be totally wrong. Maybe he/she is OSA, coming here to throw a punch, to dangle a red cape, so as to get some new grist for OSA’s mill by seeing whassup with us bitter defrocked types.
I agree with your sense of FP Aqua. I think you nailed it. I like having him around. He stimulates conversation and looking at things that I may not otherwise have considered (even about how the mind of someone trapped in “scientology think” works). I also find there is value in letting people experience for themselves what that sort of mind is like in a forum where they can respond or witness an actual back and forth as there is not much of that happening within the organization.
I hear you, Mike. FPs a healthy presence IMO too. In my neck of the woods – its not my ethnic slang, but in my neck of the woods, he’d would be called a “pot stirrer” 🙂
Foolproofsays
No Aqua, OSA I am not. I am one of scores of thousands of former “official” Scientologists (today you have to be a member in good standing to be a “Scientologist” and I am certainly not that), who made excellent case gain and was well trained and experienced in the subject, and who believes that the direction that the Church has been steered is false. Therefore when I see nonsense being written about the technology or Hubbard I will challenge it. There is plenty to criticize without hyperbole or made-up silliness, or just pure invective because the commenter is usually sitting on mounds of overts that the thinks the “e-meter” will find out about him or her.
You don’t have to be “scared” of me either. When and if you would say something that I find to be untrue, I will usually just simply point it out, unlike the other poor souls on here who fly into a foaming at the mouth rage about it.
As to the “huge array of crimes” that you list above (3, or perhaps 2.5 as Fair Game and Disconnection belong more or less in the same boat), Fair Game and Disconnection now indeed have an added “political” slant admittedly, and “Attack don’t defend” is actually common sense when you remove the anti-Scientology bias – what does one usually say to children who are being bullied or teased at school? Of course Mike will fly into a rage now as that – his stance that “Attack don’t defend” is somehow egregious – is one of his main planks of attack (get the irony) and story creation here but nevertheless, is actually common sense and works. I notice that many people have fallen for this line, including it seems yourself. In other, more crass, words people can piss all over Scientology but Scientology isn’t allowed to piss back!
As to the “criminal actions of LRH”, what exactly are these?
The Church and Miscavige are simply not Scientology. It’s misrepresentation. To a certain degree Scientology was taken over by who the hell I don’ know.
Scientology in the 1970 was huge and friendly (for me as a public) and I experienced a lot of wins in auditing and training. I learned to listen. Any person delivering psychotherapy should know about auditor’s code and comm cycle. And should have his TR0 in
GO at this time was already rotten.
Mike Rindersays
GO at this time was already rotten.
Very true. But that WAS scientology — a very important part of it, despite the efforts subsequently to claim it had nothing to do with “real” scientology. The GO was the product of Hubbard’s need to have and defeat enemies. If he actually believed what he wrote in “My Philosophy” the GO would never have exited. Now would the policies that called for Fair Game, the destruction of enemies and harassment of those who did not agree with him.
Aquamarinesays
Thanks for your detailed and considered reply, FP. I was curious about you. Thanks for confirming you’re not OSA. Understood on all you’ve shared. Couple of things, though: I was not expressing fear of you in my post. As I explained to Wynski, I merely wanted to confine our comm at that time to my specific question You see, I used to believe that LRH’s toxic policies (Disconnection, Fair Game, Attack Never Defend”) had nothing to do with me or the LRH tech that benefited me a great deal when I was in. Today, my thinking has evolved to where I consider those policies to have been like someone injecting a few cancer cells into a healthy organism. The disease takes time to manifest. What was toxic in Scientology so many years ago was in germinal form and not apparent to many of us. The same man who formulated the workable stuff also succumbed to violating his own workable precepts by formulating and enforcing cruel policies ostensibly to protect him and Scientology. As for “Always Attack, Never Defend”, that modus operendi works ONLY when the person or organization being attacked has clean hands. When the “attackee” is innocent. The Church of Scientology has long had dirty hands, going back before Miscavige. As for LRH’s crimes, off the top of my head, there was the persecution of Paulette Cooper and trying to frame her, there was Operation Snow White wherein GO members were jailed including Mary Sue, and then , in my opinion, his worst crime, the one that did him in, which was letting Mary Sue take the full rap. Its just my opinion but I think that’s what did him in – denying his knowledge of Scientology’s IRS break in. These were crimes, Foolproof. That they were crimes does not take away from what he created that was good and healthy and helpful, but, these crimes, and their necessary covering ups (read: solutions) created more problems, needing more lies as solutions, creating more problems…its HIS tech you know, which played out in his own life and in his creations. Metaphorically, its the cancer cells he injected into the healthy organism which steadily grew and grew and…well, you get the idea. That’s my 2, anyway.
Foolproofsays
Aqua, if you consider those things you listed as crimes and if that is all you can come up with for 70 odd years of Scientology and Hubbard’s existence then I think you should take a look at a few crime series on TV followed by researching how many people have actually been killed or ruined by psychiatry and the pharmaceutical industry – Scientology’s main enemies.No doubt Wynski will now splurge forth with another long list of similar nonsense, but I mean really Aqua – “crimes”? You’ve been reading too much nonsense on here where everything (piffling) and “bad” is blown up out all proportion. Next it will be “LRH kicked a dog when he was 12!” (shocked and stunned gasps from the audience). Or how about “LRH pulled a girl’s hair at school!”? Shocking!
Sorry to be so blunt, but well…
Wynskisays
Of course Aqua, what YOU experienced is real. You were there at whatever time and place. I wasn’t so there are things you know that I haven’t a clue about so I too like to hear what happened outside my bubble. 🙂
Thanks, Wynski, but your remark to me about FP didn’t come across as critical of Me at all. Of FP, um, yeah 🙂 but not of me.
In fact, your remark served as a trigger warning to me that FP’s sudden reappearance was going to incite our blog version of “Shootout At The OK Corral”, or “High Noon” which was my cue to channel my inner Grace Kelly and just let The Men shoot it out 🙂
My response to you about FP ended up being longer than first intended.. Somehow it morphed into a treatise wherein I was explaining certain things to you – thoughts I’d never written down before, and because I was still formulating them I was explaining them to you and explaining them to myself at the same time.
Aquamarinesays
FP, your argument is very weak.
You’re responding to what I’ve listed as LRH’s crimes with “whataboutism”, i.e., “what about” psychiatry and all its crimes, what about all the harm the pharmaceutical industry has done,
Sure, there are tremendous crimes emanating from those quarters. No argument there. But to use someone or some other organizations crimes as a response to my questions to you about LRH’s actual crimes is a deflection because LRH’s crimes are his crimes, and psychiatry’s crimes are its crimes, and my crimes are mine, and yours are yours, etc. etc.
“Whataboutism” resolves nothing and is a deflection and a non confront and as such is unworthy of you, IMO.
I’m a Data Series Evaluator, Foolproof. I loved that course. Took to it like a duck to water. Every day I try to use what I learned in that course, mostly because I love that data and its fun for me – analyzing data, separating fact from opinion, pulling threads, finding Why’s – its fun for me and it’s also pretty helpful in life.
LRH did what he did, good and bad. Consider this: if one is unwilling or unable to confront outpoints – for whatever reasons – if one refuses to deal with outpoints which are staring one in the face, then, long story short, one will never, ever achieve an Ideal Scene. And that’s LRH, Foolproof. Think about it.
jburtis2013says
For money, money, money, LRH put love in my tummy…
Even way back in the days when Hubbard had accumulated enough money to buy three ocean-going ships and finance their crazy cruises through the seas of the western hemisphere, paying cash all the way, Hubbard didn’t have enough.
He never had enough. Tens of millions left him one step away from pauperism. Hundreds of Millions? Barely able to buy his Kools. There is a pattern of endless greed that somehow escaped the attention of Scn members for decades.
Now, with Mismanage, the Captain of Avarice, controlling a billion or more dollars in ready reserves, and peddling worthless Status certificates, gaudy trophies, and grip-and-grin photo ops that cost members $50k, $100k, $250k, and up, nothing could be more clear than that Scientology is all about accumulating endless amounts of cash for no good reason except the comfort of its fearful leader.
They could declare a moratorium on Status fundraising, increase pay for all employees, close down Narconon and other fronts, return to the franchise small org/high traffic model, get rid of or downplay the super-expensive OT levels and Rundowns, try to find a workable model of auditing… Scn could do all this and more, and still coast for years on their reserves. But any of those suggestions is about as likely to occur as the magical return of Elron from the far reaches of outer outer space…or the ninth circle of hell, where the most evil of all sinners – the Traitors to their Benefactors – suffer forever.
Your “Money money etc.” comment just gave me an idea.
Ever see “Cabaret”?
If so, would not Miscavige make an utterly fantastic Master of Ceremonies (Joel Grey’s played him in the film) together with Lou as Sally Bowles (Liza Minelli) doing the “Money Makes The World Go “Round” number?
Only it would be “Money Makes The M’Org Go “Round”.
“…A mark, a yen, a buck or a pound, it makes the the M’org go round….money money money money money money money money…”
…the two of them, doing this number together…OMG could anything be more apropos?
On her own LOU could do the Scientology version of the show’s #1 hit, the finale number:: “…What good is sitting alone in your room…Life is an Ideal M’org my friend, come to the Ideal M’org…”
MJM, where the hell are you? Front and center please! Parody needed *
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*Just kidding, MJM. We know you’re not some 9 to 5 hack churning out material on demand
Share with us in your spontaneity, when The Muse moves you. Enjoy your weekend 🙂
We in RTC need to clarify ecclesiastical policy. Scientology does not fundraise and never has. Rather, we in Scientology generously allow people to donate as much money as possible only in order to increase their necessity level. This is turn drives Scientologists to make more money and thereby increases their ability, wherewithal, and havingness.
The able are made more able when they are busy producing to pay off vast credit card debt, loans, and third mortgages. It is all a game.
We want you to get this as a technical fact and not as a hopeful fantasy: For every dollar donated to Scientology one opens up flows in the Theta universe that result in $10 or more coming back. Thus, to donate $10,000 to Scientology is to guarantee a minimum Theta return of $100,000.
This financial flow may not happen this lifetime. However, it is guaranteed to happen in a future lifetime and/or in another universe in a future lifetime.
Yo Dave,
Stop by (should be spelled ‘buy’ if you are still in) sometime good buddy. I’ve got some WHEREWITHALL to pass along and You are just the guy to receive it.
If this was posted by Jeff Augustine, who claims to have not actually been a Scientologist, then I am truly stunned by your ability to hit the nail on the head. This encapsulates not just my entire experience in Scientology but the viewpoint of every registrar.
To: Everybody on this damn blog
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: the above comments
Yes, the above is absolute truth! First promulgated by my main man L. Ron Hubbard (no, wait. My main man is Tom Cruise), and delivered to perfection by yours truly, the Grand Exalted Ruler Of Teegeeack And The MEST Universe.
The way to flourish and prosperity is through production and true production consists of finding funds to donate to our various causes. So knock it off with the QandA and start producing!
I need that new Cabin Cruiser now.
Oops.
Been out for 14 years. It was bad then, and I’m sure it’s gotten a lot worse since then. So glad to be out, still “blowing down followed by a persistent FN!” And YES I’d like others to share the wins I’ve had. ?
They really need to change that pamphlet from “way to happiness “to what people really think after reading it to “what the hell,more truthful that way.
Believe me, very little has changed over the years. I’m just wondering how long it takes for struggling loyalists to admit to themselves that the latest event promo they just received contains the same unstated message: “Come to our dinner and give us the opportunity to browbeat you into giving us thousands of dollars.”
What an outstanding Regraded Being. Simple and to the point. SC$ wins are in foreign countries where their claims can’t be verified. Also – it’s all about money.
Scientology is always making things better somewhere else far away. Why isn’t LA and at least a 100 mile radius around Flag a paradise on Earth yet? Hell, I’m expecting to hear that LRH has finished clearing Target 2 any day now! Maybe we should load some WTH brochures on a rocket ship and fire it into space to help Source out there as well! I’m sure everyone in Target 2 has learned American English by now, so there shouldn’t be any problems reading the booklets.
New booklet, TWTF, short for “THE WAY TO FUCK” (people; someone) i.e., street slang; “fucking” people in the sense of scamming them, defraudiing monetarily.
Notice to all lurker, doubter, side-liner, under-the-radar, fence sitter, not-quite-in, slightly out ethics, reasonable, namby pamby panty waist dilettantes types, etc. Any scientology event or briefing is really just going to be about REGGING or RECRUITING. No exceptions. Ever. Mostly regging though. Catch a clue folks and walk out the door. Or, get with the scientology program, swill some Kool-Aid and join staff to save the planet. Just do something to get off yer undecided asses.
Yesterday I walked down L Ron Hubbard Way past the outdoor restaurant. I saw a Sea Org member going from table to table with envelopes that said IAS.
I over heard this Sea Org member say,”this is a one time donation”, as he shoved the envelope at the person having lunch. The look on the person’s face who was being asked to give money was like,” get the f—k out of here I’m eating lunch, but I can’t show my real feelings or I’ll get punished.”
L Ron Hubbard Way has more Sea Org on the street than public. That has been the case for years now when I look down that street.
In the 70s and Eighties the place was hopping.
Now it’s a ghost down where you can’t even eat in peace while money is extracted like pulling teeth.
Most religions have their hand out.
Some of them will go through your wallet.
A few will stick a vaccuum hose into your pockets and suck until they get lint.
$cientology will suck until they get blood.
…and some small cults will sell your organs.
So i guess it could be worse?
Most religions ask for support but attach no opprobrium to those who don’t or can’t (but praise those who do). Usually it’s to support the rent or purchase of facilities, and often to support the clergyperson. e.g. unitarians, many smaller protestant churches, most catholic churches, the way JW’s used to be.
“Some go through your wallet” refer to those that require tithing or who hound you with donations and social compulsion penalties if you don’t. e.g. the more “successful” churches, megachurches, desperate catholic churches, what JW’s are turning into, and mormons (“paying tithing” is a requirement for them, if you don’t, you can be barred from going to the temple).
“Stick a vaccuum hose in your pocket and suck until you get lint” refers to things like the prosperity gospel, televangelists and other churches that showcase the “business/scam” side of religion. “Jesus wants me to have a private jet”/”plant a seed”/”if you can’t pay your rent or buy groceries, still pay your tithing,” etc. Hopefully you know what i’m talking about. In addition to the previous examples, sometimes you will hear mormon leaders talk like this.
“…suck until they get blood” is usually metaphorical but is sometimes literal. This is where you are pressured to give up all your time/money/property/work for the group. You may be asked to give all your money and donate money you don’t have by e.g. applying for and maxing out credit cards; selling your house or cashing in your retirement savings to give to the leader, moving into a compound and working at their job/farm for free, that sort of thing. Basically giving your blood, sweat and tears for the group. Examples include scientology (both members and sea org in their own ways), smaller cults just starting out (including early mormonism), and some more established ones although i’m having trouble naming specifics here. i think the moonies would count.
“…sell your organs…” refers to those groups that ultimately kill people, usually their own members but sometimes outsiders. e.g. Jonestown, Aum Shinrikyo, the branch Davidians, etc. There are too many to name, but i would include those faith healing parents who let their children die from easily treated illnesses here.
Keep in mind, religion is supposed to be -good- for society and is why they have tax-exempt status in the first place. Every religious group -should- be the very first type in this list here. The fact that they aren’t is a scandal and is one of the reasons i advocate for a “societal benefit” means test for religious groups. Or better yet, drop this category altogether and just have them apply to be a charity where that already exists (it does, doesn’t it?).
My BFF’s daughter was trying to schedule having her son receive Confirmation. They had recently moved to the area & were wanting to register with “the church”. When they went in to register & asked about getting their son Confirmed….the (lets just say) the “official” told them they’d have to bring in their previous years Income Tax Return & THEN they would be TOLD how much “they should tithe” weekly……Seriously, YES, true story…. They DID what was asked since the next church would have been an inconvenient trip…..
It’s supposed to be for scientologists except for the PR open house events. It’s mainly however, so the registrars know where to find there ‘prospects’ like in gold mining ?
“There’s a sucker born every minute” P. T. Barnum
This whole thing fascinates me – I don’t get it – but I am fascinated by it all! This depiction above is very much like the same pitch my now ex husband and I received way back in the early ’80’s. A couple we knew approached us with how to make our marriage better and please join us at this get together etc… we never went – then it was mostly because as newlyweds we just didn’t have the funds to even consider it. Then I mentioned it to my dad who was much more in tune with things – even then he knew it was a cult. His words to us were – if you have to “escape” from anything – it’s likely not where you want to be!
Fool me infinitely and you are a Miscavage style Scientologist.Fool me more it makes me feel so good.
Stop blaming Miscavage. He is just giving the last sheeple what the want.
Wow, xenu’s son, I had the same thought and posted it before reading your post. Exactly right! Stop blaming Miscavige! He only succeeds because his marks are so dumb. They LIKE being suckers. It makes them feel good. I do believe that! Seriously, no joke. I believe that.
Peter (and everyone else who ends up posting the same message several times), you MUST be a little patient. When you post a comment, it takes AT LEAST FIVE (5) MINUTES! Just wait, it will show up.
It has been my previous experience to see it pop up immediately saying it was being moderated. In this case, it had still not shown up until sometime today…the next day.
Lies, lies, lies. Say ANYHING, promise ANYTHING to keep the lies going and financially supported. You’ve once again right on the head, RB! “Carl” has already spotted the outness repeatedly and is soon to be out himself! .
Exactly, Peter. Not feeding the cow but just continuing to milk the cow until at last its bone dry and dead.
That’s what Miscavige has been doing, I’d say, for the past 10 years.
More and more I think the Ideal Morgue program is and has been a part of David Miscavige’s ultimate goal to exit Scientology (we could call it “Mexit”, or “Dexit” if you like). His admin scale as to how he’ll “move off the lines with unlimited cash in his pockets, etc.” (I think this paraphrase of mine derives from the Power Formula. Sorry, too lazy to look it up.) I pretty convinced now that he’s long know that Scientology is doomed and he’ll need to exit at some point, but wants to do so with a sparkling legacy and as much money as possible. This means that he doesn’t care who gets turned off by his aggressive milking; it doesn’t matter because he know the cult is doomed anyway, so just get whatever money the dumb shits want to give him, whenever and however he can, for as long as he can.
1. The toxic dwarf is a true believer and is in his own bubble of obliviousness, believing his own propaganda.
2. Cabbage believes, but is pulling his hair out, frantic that the ship is sinking, and everything he knows to do is failing. (Personally, I hope this is the truth, as it would be a special kind of living hell.)
3. He knows it’s a scam and knows its failing. He dreams nightly of how to keep the money flowing and the ship sinking at the same time, while looking forward to his imminent retirement after destroying $cn.
I personally don’t think he will be able to get away with just disappearing. No matter where he goes, current law can go after him. Perhaps Brazil, which has no agreement with the US to return US citizen criminals. However, if he were to live there, he would need to learn the Portuguese language, a very difficult one and hardly what Dimwit would take on. And without that, he would be virtually alone. Kidnapping would also become a very real possibility as crime is pretty rife down there.
Aqua: Once out of the US and no longer under the “safety” of the 1st Amendment, my blieve is that he will be tracked down – by either the authorities or by others of a lesser ilk who will use far less pleasant efforts to disengage him from his funds. I don’t believe he will have either a happy nor a safe retirement. He will have pulled it in.
Peter,
I agree with you. All his money will not afford him peace of mind. It will just make him a lot more physically comfortable and safe whilst he remains isolated and trapped in the truly gruesome mental prison he long ago chose to live in. His whole existence is based on lies and with each lie he puts another bar on his cell. If you believe in karma, and I do, then, no matter how much harm he’s wreaking on others there’s no one he’s hurting more than himself – not even close.
ME: “I’m not going to this event and then be told at the end no one can leave until we reach our goal.”
ED of the org: “I’ve been told by upper management that this is a brand new type of event and they assured me it is NOT a fundraiser.”
That night….well, you guessed it – FUNDRAISER. My last one
With so many celebrity members already assuming a low profile, it’s just a matter of time before they’ll also start withdrawing financial support. Especially considering how TC and JT are bombing at the box office, how many more will follow? The best way the public can show its disdain for $ is to Not support any celebrity member endeavors, either ‘big screen’, or tv. Hit them in the pocket where it hurts!
And there will be another Top Gun next year. Production
has not started yet but there are already bad reviews
out. Money, money and more money. Maybe Tom will
be flying a B-52 bomber as a remnant from the USGO
and DM will be the co-pilot. Oh well, might not be a good
idea – remember what happened to his first co-pilot!?
Tom Cruise ( AKA Big Being Number Three) will be doing “Mission Impossible 15” and “Top Gun 10” in his botoxed, liposuctioned, and hair-plugged dotage. A cinematic one-trick pony if ever there was one.
WAYC, TC’s popularity has plummeted because he’s been only cashing in on his looks. He seems to have no interest in doing work that requires him to do more than show up an d look pretty.
JT TRIED to do a couple of “bad boy” chracters, but he’s such a doughboy that they fell dead flat. THEN there was Battlefield Earth…. Didn’t he “win” the Razzie for that?
Remember, boycotts don’t work unless there is a significant percentage of the potential audience participating. There were never enough Scientologists to threaten anyone credibly, not even in Clearwater when we tried to affect an election.
And TC as a CO-pilot? NEVER gonna happen. No pilot would want to risk his life with Dwarfenführer, given his track record of crashing things
$cientology has well proven to be a drag on an actor’s career. Whatever innate skills they have are subsumed by their rapacious quest for ever-increasing stats (money) despite their not honing the requisite skills of their craft.
I’m reading Marc Headley’s book “Blown For Good”. He tells a story of a staff member at the int base whose real name is Pure Power Coleman and everyone called him Power.
You also need to know that there are two drills at the base that sets the stage for the story.
The Power Drill is called whenever the base loses power. The object of the drill is to switch off all the power which feeds the base to prevent a massive surge when power is restored by the power company.
The second is the Blow Drill which has the purpose to recover any staff member who leaves the base without authorization (a blow).
So, one day, Power gets a message from his girlfriend that she needs to see him right away. He panics thinking that she wants to break up with him. Power has no personal identification, no driver license, no car, no phone, no nothing. But he does have with him a Blockbuster card he borrowed from a guy named Peter Cook.
He thinks he can make it to wherever she is within in a fifteen-minute window if he runs all the way and he should be able to make it back before he is reported missing. He had not had much to eat but he did swallow a glass of orange juice. It is very hot outside, maybe 100 degrees. He doesn’t make it. Somewhere along the way he passed out and fell face down on gravel. He wakes up in a hospital all bruised. The doctor had no information on who this guy is. All he knows is that his name is Peter Cook from the Blockbuster card.
He doesn’t remember what happened or how he got to the hospital. The doctor thought he should order a tox screen for Peter Cook.
In the meantime, there is a power outage at the base. Staff is ordered to do the Power Drill.
Finally, the doctor asks him if there is someone to call. Power answers yes and gives 1 800 I WANT HELP. Power is relieved since he was finally able to answer a question. The doctor calls the number and security answers. The doctor tells the person that Peter Cook is in the hospital.
Security makes a check and finds Peter Cook on post. After sort-out it is realized that Power is missing. A Blow Drill is ordered to find Power.
Do you see where this is going?
After the Power Drill was completed that staff was ordered to go back on post since they did not require power to do their jobs. The people on the Blow Drill to find Power were confused as they had yet received word that Power was back on the base, Pure Power that is.
Power finally returns to the base and is told to get some identification and to memorize his address.
His girlfriend decides not to breakup with Power and they get married because she finds him quite interesting now (or she thinks that someone needs to take care of him).
Sometime later, Power goes out-2D with another staff member and those two get sent to the RPF.
Folks, you can’t make this shit up.
Marc tells this story better than I. It’s in his book, “Blown For Good”.
Pure Power plopped on a patch of pebbled pavement. If Pure Power plopped a patch of pebbled pavement, where’s the patch of pebbled pavement Pure Power plopped?
Ow! That makes my brain hurt.
Thank you, RB!
And now we present,
THE ADVENTURES OF BOB, MARY, AND SHAHEEN.
(phone rings)
Bob: Hello?
Shaheen: Hi, Bob! This is Shaheen from the org……..
Bob (under his breath) Oh,shit!
Shaheen:………calling to let you know about our Way To Happiness event being held this Saturday. Our Dear Leader, David Miscavige, will be giving us a briefing on……….
Bob: Just a minute, Shaheen. This wouldn’t happen to be another fundraiser, would it?
Shaheen: ……..how saturating the world with the Way To Happiness will usher in a Scientology age! We need………….
Bob: You didn’t answer my question, Shaheen!
Shaheen: …….as many public to attend as possible. We all need to stand behind our Dear Leader……..
Bob: WILL YOU PUT DOWN THE DAMN PATTER AND ANSWER MY QUESTION, SHAHEEN?!!!!!!!!!
Shaheen:……….who, as exalted leader of the MEST Universe………
Bob: SHAHEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mary (mouthing): Put the phone down, Bob! Put it down now!
Bob: I’m going to keep running TR3 until you answer my question!
Shaheen: ……….is in a position to bring about……….
Mary (takes phone from Bob): Go fuck yourself, Shaheen (hangs up phone).
Bob: You realize you may have gotten us declared?
Mary: Good. Maybe we’ll be solvent for once.
Spoken like a trooper! Ha! You Nailed it!
That was slightly terrific. ?
Oh Grand Pubah of the Mike Rinder’s blog comments……my comments will not show right away…even if I type in test….etc…..help me…I am not “techno savvy”….have pity on an old woman.
Ballet Lady, I am no techie myself but I think there are some issues being worked on regarding that. I see your posts… though I’m not sure how soon after you write that they actually show up.
Thank you friend! I USE to see my comments immediately…now it might be later in the day or the next day! Hopefully it’s working out!
Foolproof? No comment?
He went out the back.
But you never arrived…
Oh, no. I Arrived years ago when I walked away from the cult! You just can’t beat the feeling of walking away!
No comment! And herein lies the rub. I never make comments on subjects that I think have detracted from Scientology, such as donations, unnecessary heavy ethics, “new” group think etc. In fact you can all go at it to your evil heart’s content. I won’t join in as it is getting you all nowhere but I assume it is somehow assuaging your massive mounds of overts when you can all have a good natter and is bringing more peace to the world and all that (not really though eh?) Debbie Cook’s email stated it all (in a reasoned rather than vitriolic fashion).
And lastly, do not state the name of the Lord thy R6 God in vain, or summon him from the depths of your living hell. “He” will appear but only when necessary to wreak terrible vengeance and retribution on those who will spontaneously combust when doing silly versions of OTVIII. And I am negotiating a contract with Mike on a retainer basis that when the comments stats are down, only he may summon me to liven things up again.
Thou must now wear a horse hair shirt for a week in penance for trying to summon me!
Foolproof,
Would I be correct in stating that you have no disagreements with Debbie Cook’s email?
You would be correct, in fact very correct.
Good to know, FP, thanks..
Aqua, he has a hard time commenting on the crimminal org El Tard created. It is the same with all criminals when asked about their crime boss.
Haha! When LRH wrote “Critics of Scientology”, for decorum’s sake he left out “Wynski, the Al Capone of critics” and invented the phrase “yip-yapping running bird dog hyena” to replace this. LRH was very nice and realized that about 2.5 % of people were hopeless cases but nevertheless didn’t call such beings what he usually and rightly called these people when on the bridge of the Apollo, out of earshot of sensitive souls.
You highlight an interesting point FP.
Anyone who disagreed with Hubbard was deemed a “critic” = enemy = SP. And he had a LOT of names for them. And a lot of labels. It’s one of the most noteworthy things about him, his absolute certainty that he was right and anyone who didn’t see things his way were categorized as the worst scum of humanity.
That is what you call hubris. Or arrogance. Or NPD.
I see you are now juxtaposing the NPD (the current Nazi faction party in Germany) to my comments or stance! How adroit of you eh? In this comments section (and some of your stories) – that are somewhat akin to the Stalinist show trials and Politburo so warped is the content, you of course have absolute certainty that you and others commenting here are absolutely right and never do name-calling and labeling. Or what?
Is such then not hubris, arrogance, or NPD? The irony eh? Or “good for the goose but not the gander”?
NPD is Narcissistic Personality Disorder. No idea what it is in Germany.
No need to leap off the cliff of logic for thus. Just clear up your misunderstood. Had you looked it up you would have found the definition (and it would have fit). You are the standard tech guy right?
I am not familiar with obscure and usually meaningless psychiatric terms and didn’t know that, but of course you would have come across such terms with the comments on here. How daft of me not to know that eh? And NPD nevertheless does fit (to my comment to you).
Right to the bitter end as always. This is no obscure psychiatric term. It’s very common in popular culture these days. Have u ever been on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook?
Haha – no sorry I don’t frequent such sites as they are full of obscure psychiatric terms (and lunatics!) Just joking! And bitter – moi?
PERFECT reply Logicproof. As pper your psychosis
His 2.5% estimate morphed into more like 95% after he’d finished declaring all those S.H. staff that helped him build that org in the 60’s.
He was much like Stalin in that regard. Paranoid and saw would be assassins everywhere.
Wynski, I got it, but the various toxic policies created by LRH (Fair Game, Disconnection, “Attack, Never Defend”) and the criminal actions of LRH himself are other issues requiring other questions, and, frankly I’m not up to this kind of challenge with Foolproof at the moment!
When I’m gathering data, I like to operate on what I know.
Wynski, your experience in Scientology was vastly different from mine.
You were someone with power in the Sea Org. You had access, or possibly were in charge of monitoring, upper level statistics for the entire organization world wide. For however long you had it this was a very high position. You saw a lot, first hand, that I never saw. So, even though I don’t always understand your viewpoints and opinions, I listen to them because you were THERE, in the thick of it, for a while. You knew, or at least were familiar with LRH when he was alive. You SAW things, first hand. That’s a big deal. That’s no small thing, seeing up close and personal, the action WHILE it is happening. So I listen to you, and I respect you, even though I don’t always understand your – I’ll call it “fierceness” I’m not qualified to judge it, because all I know of LRKH is what he wrote and what other people wrote and write about him, while you were THERE.
That said, I also had my experience, limited as it was to having been always a public, its true, but it was my experience, and as such I respect it, and as such I listen to it too, because it all goes into the same data gathering “bin”.
I’m trying to figure out what Foolproof’s angle is. I could be wrong but I don’t think he’s OSA., I’m inclined to think he’s an Indie Scientologist who enjoys verbal sparring, a lot. An Indie who, if he were not doing this with us, would be mentally exercising like this with family or friends – a kind of fencing, if you will. But for him (I think FP is a man) I think its more of a blood sport – boxing, bullfighting.
But again I could be totally wrong. Maybe he/she is OSA, coming here to throw a punch, to dangle a red cape, so as to get some new grist for OSA’s mill by seeing whassup with us bitter defrocked types.
I agree with your sense of FP Aqua. I think you nailed it. I like having him around. He stimulates conversation and looking at things that I may not otherwise have considered (even about how the mind of someone trapped in “scientology think” works). I also find there is value in letting people experience for themselves what that sort of mind is like in a forum where they can respond or witness an actual back and forth as there is not much of that happening within the organization.
I hear you, Mike. FPs a healthy presence IMO too. In my neck of the woods – its not my ethnic slang, but in my neck of the woods, he’d would be called a “pot stirrer” 🙂
No Aqua, OSA I am not. I am one of scores of thousands of former “official” Scientologists (today you have to be a member in good standing to be a “Scientologist” and I am certainly not that), who made excellent case gain and was well trained and experienced in the subject, and who believes that the direction that the Church has been steered is false. Therefore when I see nonsense being written about the technology or Hubbard I will challenge it. There is plenty to criticize without hyperbole or made-up silliness, or just pure invective because the commenter is usually sitting on mounds of overts that the thinks the “e-meter” will find out about him or her.
You don’t have to be “scared” of me either. When and if you would say something that I find to be untrue, I will usually just simply point it out, unlike the other poor souls on here who fly into a foaming at the mouth rage about it.
As to the “huge array of crimes” that you list above (3, or perhaps 2.5 as Fair Game and Disconnection belong more or less in the same boat), Fair Game and Disconnection now indeed have an added “political” slant admittedly, and “Attack don’t defend” is actually common sense when you remove the anti-Scientology bias – what does one usually say to children who are being bullied or teased at school? Of course Mike will fly into a rage now as that – his stance that “Attack don’t defend” is somehow egregious – is one of his main planks of attack (get the irony) and story creation here but nevertheless, is actually common sense and works. I notice that many people have fallen for this line, including it seems yourself. In other, more crass, words people can piss all over Scientology but Scientology isn’t allowed to piss back!
As to the “criminal actions of LRH”, what exactly are these?
The Church and Miscavige are simply not Scientology. It’s misrepresentation. To a certain degree Scientology was taken over by who the hell I don’ know.
Scientology in the 1970 was huge and friendly (for me as a public) and I experienced a lot of wins in auditing and training. I learned to listen. Any person delivering psychotherapy should know about auditor’s code and comm cycle. And should have his TR0 in
GO at this time was already rotten.
GO at this time was already rotten.
Very true. But that WAS scientology — a very important part of it, despite the efforts subsequently to claim it had nothing to do with “real” scientology. The GO was the product of Hubbard’s need to have and defeat enemies. If he actually believed what he wrote in “My Philosophy” the GO would never have exited. Now would the policies that called for Fair Game, the destruction of enemies and harassment of those who did not agree with him.
Thanks for your detailed and considered reply, FP. I was curious about you. Thanks for confirming you’re not OSA. Understood on all you’ve shared. Couple of things, though: I was not expressing fear of you in my post. As I explained to Wynski, I merely wanted to confine our comm at that time to my specific question You see, I used to believe that LRH’s toxic policies (Disconnection, Fair Game, Attack Never Defend”) had nothing to do with me or the LRH tech that benefited me a great deal when I was in. Today, my thinking has evolved to where I consider those policies to have been like someone injecting a few cancer cells into a healthy organism. The disease takes time to manifest. What was toxic in Scientology so many years ago was in germinal form and not apparent to many of us. The same man who formulated the workable stuff also succumbed to violating his own workable precepts by formulating and enforcing cruel policies ostensibly to protect him and Scientology. As for “Always Attack, Never Defend”, that modus operendi works ONLY when the person or organization being attacked has clean hands. When the “attackee” is innocent. The Church of Scientology has long had dirty hands, going back before Miscavige. As for LRH’s crimes, off the top of my head, there was the persecution of Paulette Cooper and trying to frame her, there was Operation Snow White wherein GO members were jailed including Mary Sue, and then , in my opinion, his worst crime, the one that did him in, which was letting Mary Sue take the full rap. Its just my opinion but I think that’s what did him in – denying his knowledge of Scientology’s IRS break in. These were crimes, Foolproof. That they were crimes does not take away from what he created that was good and healthy and helpful, but, these crimes, and their necessary covering ups (read: solutions) created more problems, needing more lies as solutions, creating more problems…its HIS tech you know, which played out in his own life and in his creations. Metaphorically, its the cancer cells he injected into the healthy organism which steadily grew and grew and…well, you get the idea. That’s my 2, anyway.
Aqua, if you consider those things you listed as crimes and if that is all you can come up with for 70 odd years of Scientology and Hubbard’s existence then I think you should take a look at a few crime series on TV followed by researching how many people have actually been killed or ruined by psychiatry and the pharmaceutical industry – Scientology’s main enemies.No doubt Wynski will now splurge forth with another long list of similar nonsense, but I mean really Aqua – “crimes”? You’ve been reading too much nonsense on here where everything (piffling) and “bad” is blown up out all proportion. Next it will be “LRH kicked a dog when he was 12!” (shocked and stunned gasps from the audience). Or how about “LRH pulled a girl’s hair at school!”? Shocking!
Sorry to be so blunt, but well…
Of course Aqua, what YOU experienced is real. You were there at whatever time and place. I wasn’t so there are things you know that I haven’t a clue about so I too like to hear what happened outside my bubble. 🙂
Are you the best, or what? 🙂
P.S. Aqua, I didn’t mean any criticism of you or your comm in my comment to you upstream.
Thanks, Wynski, but your remark to me about FP didn’t come across as critical of Me at all. Of FP, um, yeah 🙂 but not of me.
In fact, your remark served as a trigger warning to me that FP’s sudden reappearance was going to incite our blog version of “Shootout At The OK Corral”, or “High Noon” which was my cue to channel my inner Grace Kelly and just let The Men shoot it out 🙂
My response to you about FP ended up being longer than first intended.. Somehow it morphed into a treatise wherein I was explaining certain things to you – thoughts I’d never written down before, and because I was still formulating them I was explaining them to you and explaining them to myself at the same time.
FP, your argument is very weak.
You’re responding to what I’ve listed as LRH’s crimes with “whataboutism”, i.e., “what about” psychiatry and all its crimes, what about all the harm the pharmaceutical industry has done,
Sure, there are tremendous crimes emanating from those quarters. No argument there. But to use someone or some other organizations crimes as a response to my questions to you about LRH’s actual crimes is a deflection because LRH’s crimes are his crimes, and psychiatry’s crimes are its crimes, and my crimes are mine, and yours are yours, etc. etc.
“Whataboutism” resolves nothing and is a deflection and a non confront and as such is unworthy of you, IMO.
I’m a Data Series Evaluator, Foolproof. I loved that course. Took to it like a duck to water. Every day I try to use what I learned in that course, mostly because I love that data and its fun for me – analyzing data, separating fact from opinion, pulling threads, finding Why’s – its fun for me and it’s also pretty helpful in life.
LRH did what he did, good and bad. Consider this: if one is unwilling or unable to confront outpoints – for whatever reasons – if one refuses to deal with outpoints which are staring one in the face, then, long story short, one will never, ever achieve an Ideal Scene. And that’s LRH, Foolproof. Think about it.
For money, money, money, LRH put love in my tummy…
And what does he love? Money. More money. And then more money! Do we see a pattern here?
Even way back in the days when Hubbard had accumulated enough money to buy three ocean-going ships and finance their crazy cruises through the seas of the western hemisphere, paying cash all the way, Hubbard didn’t have enough.
He never had enough. Tens of millions left him one step away from pauperism. Hundreds of Millions? Barely able to buy his Kools. There is a pattern of endless greed that somehow escaped the attention of Scn members for decades.
Now, with Mismanage, the Captain of Avarice, controlling a billion or more dollars in ready reserves, and peddling worthless Status certificates, gaudy trophies, and grip-and-grin photo ops that cost members $50k, $100k, $250k, and up, nothing could be more clear than that Scientology is all about accumulating endless amounts of cash for no good reason except the comfort of its fearful leader.
They could declare a moratorium on Status fundraising, increase pay for all employees, close down Narconon and other fronts, return to the franchise small org/high traffic model, get rid of or downplay the super-expensive OT levels and Rundowns, try to find a workable model of auditing… Scn could do all this and more, and still coast for years on their reserves. But any of those suggestions is about as likely to occur as the magical return of Elron from the far reaches of outer outer space…or the ninth circle of hell, where the most evil of all sinners – the Traitors to their Benefactors – suffer forever.
Grip-and-grin. Priceless!
OSD,
Your “Money money etc.” comment just gave me an idea.
Ever see “Cabaret”?
If so, would not Miscavige make an utterly fantastic Master of Ceremonies (Joel Grey’s played him in the film) together with Lou as Sally Bowles (Liza Minelli) doing the “Money Makes The World Go “Round” number?
Only it would be “Money Makes The M’Org Go “Round”.
“…A mark, a yen, a buck or a pound, it makes the the M’org go round….money money money money money money money money…”
…the two of them, doing this number together…OMG could anything be more apropos?
On her own LOU could do the Scientology version of the show’s #1 hit, the finale number:: “…What good is sitting alone in your room…Life is an Ideal M’org my friend, come to the Ideal M’org…”
MJM, where the hell are you? Front and center please! Parody needed *
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*Just kidding, MJM. We know you’re not some 9 to 5 hack churning out material on demand
Share with us in your spontaneity, when The Muse moves you. Enjoy your weekend 🙂
Yep, I have seen Cabaret. And you’re right about the dwarf playing the part.
We in RTC need to clarify ecclesiastical policy. Scientology does not fundraise and never has. Rather, we in Scientology generously allow people to donate as much money as possible only in order to increase their necessity level. This is turn drives Scientologists to make more money and thereby increases their ability, wherewithal, and havingness.
The able are made more able when they are busy producing to pay off vast credit card debt, loans, and third mortgages. It is all a game.
We want you to get this as a technical fact and not as a hopeful fantasy: For every dollar donated to Scientology one opens up flows in the Theta universe that result in $10 or more coming back. Thus, to donate $10,000 to Scientology is to guarantee a minimum Theta return of $100,000.
This financial flow may not happen this lifetime. However, it is guaranteed to happen in a future lifetime and/or in another universe in a future lifetime.
Eternity is long you see.
Yo Dave,
Stop by (should be spelled ‘buy’ if you are still in) sometime good buddy. I’ve got some WHEREWITHALL to pass along and You are just the guy to receive it.
If this was posted by Jeff Augustine, who claims to have not actually been a Scientologist, then I am truly stunned by your ability to hit the nail on the head. This encapsulates not just my entire experience in Scientology but the viewpoint of every registrar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLGpmVOuCf0
To: Everybody on this damn blog
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: the above comments
Yes, the above is absolute truth! First promulgated by my main man L. Ron Hubbard (no, wait. My main man is Tom Cruise), and delivered to perfection by yours truly, the Grand Exalted Ruler Of Teegeeack And The MEST Universe.
The way to flourish and prosperity is through production and true production consists of finding funds to donate to our various causes. So knock it off with the QandA and start producing!
I need that new Cabin Cruiser now.
Oops.
ML
Dave
It’s NOT a fundraiser it’s a FUN draiser.
Yep.
You’re right, Val. It’s NOT a fundraiser anymore, folks. It’s a FUN raiser! So put your smiley faces and have fun.
More like a FUND DRAINER…………….
Ha ha! “FUND DRAINER”. Good one, Balletlady. This I’m going to steal 🙂
Been out for 14 years. It was bad then, and I’m sure it’s gotten a lot worse since then. So glad to be out, still “blowing down followed by a persistent FN!” And YES I’d like others to share the wins I’ve had. ?
Walking away, Gary, ARE your Super Powers. And it’s easy to do. Congrats on getting out! Do what you want to do now.
They really need to change that pamphlet from “way to happiness “to what people really think after reading it to “what the hell,more truthful that way.
Believe me, very little has changed over the years. I’m just wondering how long it takes for struggling loyalists to admit to themselves that the latest event promo they just received contains the same unstated message: “Come to our dinner and give us the opportunity to browbeat you into giving us thousands of dollars.”
http://www.formerscientologistmagazine.com/murray_luther/religious_hard-sell.html
What an outstanding Regraded Being. Simple and to the point. SC$ wins are in foreign countries where their claims can’t be verified. Also – it’s all about money.
Just keep in mind that when they’re speaking, it’s all lies.
They start to make politicians look credible.
Scientology is always making things better somewhere else far away. Why isn’t LA and at least a 100 mile radius around Flag a paradise on Earth yet? Hell, I’m expecting to hear that LRH has finished clearing Target 2 any day now! Maybe we should load some WTH brochures on a rocket ship and fire it into space to help Source out there as well! I’m sure everyone in Target 2 has learned American English by now, so there shouldn’t be any problems reading the booklets.
As a never-in, whenever I see “WTH,” my brain hears “What The Hell?” This amuses me no end. 😉
WTH:
Way To Haplessness
” “Helplessness
” ” Hoplessness
” ” Hell
IAS—> I Am Swindled
STATUS—> Still Tortured And Traumatized Under Silentology
Up your Stat-Ass NOW!
Rick Pyle,
Are you sure those aren’t “WTF” brochures ?
LOL !
Dave F.
Everyone wants to have ‘WTF’ brochures. But let’s go a little further and make up,’What The Fuck’ brochures! That should wake them up.
Or it could the “The Way To Fuck” (the Still Ins and any other suckers).
Edit: “Or it could BE…”
Or it could be WHAT??? Stop playing with my feeble senses! Just tell me WTF it is!
Oh, I beg your pardon, OSD.
New booklet, TWTF, short for “THE WAY TO FUCK” (people; someone) i.e., street slang; “fucking” people in the sense of scamming them, defraudiing monetarily.
Now – feel better? 🙂
The Way To Hopelessness perhaps?
Now that’s something I can get behind!
Notice to all lurker, doubter, side-liner, under-the-radar, fence sitter, not-quite-in, slightly out ethics, reasonable, namby pamby panty waist dilettantes types, etc. Any scientology event or briefing is really just going to be about REGGING or RECRUITING. No exceptions. Ever. Mostly regging though. Catch a clue folks and walk out the door. Or, get with the scientology program, swill some Kool-Aid and join staff to save the planet. Just do something to get off yer undecided asses.
Yesterday I walked down L Ron Hubbard Way past the outdoor restaurant. I saw a Sea Org member going from table to table with envelopes that said IAS.
I over heard this Sea Org member say,”this is a one time donation”, as he shoved the envelope at the person having lunch. The look on the person’s face who was being asked to give money was like,” get the f—k out of here I’m eating lunch, but I can’t show my real feelings or I’ll get punished.”
L Ron Hubbard Way has more Sea Org on the street than public. That has been the case for years now when I look down that street.
In the 70s and Eighties the place was hopping.
Now it’s a ghost down where you can’t even eat in peace while money is extracted like pulling teeth.
Most religions have their hand out.
Some of them will go through your wallet.
A few will stick a vaccuum hose into your pockets and suck until they get lint.
$cientology will suck until they get blood.
…and some small cults will sell your organs.
So i guess it could be worse?
You just frightened me, James.
Some cults sell organs? What about pianos does anyone know?
Lol, i guess i could clarify:
Most religions ask for support but attach no opprobrium to those who don’t or can’t (but praise those who do). Usually it’s to support the rent or purchase of facilities, and often to support the clergyperson. e.g. unitarians, many smaller protestant churches, most catholic churches, the way JW’s used to be.
“Some go through your wallet” refer to those that require tithing or who hound you with donations and social compulsion penalties if you don’t. e.g. the more “successful” churches, megachurches, desperate catholic churches, what JW’s are turning into, and mormons (“paying tithing” is a requirement for them, if you don’t, you can be barred from going to the temple).
“Stick a vaccuum hose in your pocket and suck until you get lint” refers to things like the prosperity gospel, televangelists and other churches that showcase the “business/scam” side of religion. “Jesus wants me to have a private jet”/”plant a seed”/”if you can’t pay your rent or buy groceries, still pay your tithing,” etc. Hopefully you know what i’m talking about. In addition to the previous examples, sometimes you will hear mormon leaders talk like this.
“…suck until they get blood” is usually metaphorical but is sometimes literal. This is where you are pressured to give up all your time/money/property/work for the group. You may be asked to give all your money and donate money you don’t have by e.g. applying for and maxing out credit cards; selling your house or cashing in your retirement savings to give to the leader, moving into a compound and working at their job/farm for free, that sort of thing. Basically giving your blood, sweat and tears for the group. Examples include scientology (both members and sea org in their own ways), smaller cults just starting out (including early mormonism), and some more established ones although i’m having trouble naming specifics here. i think the moonies would count.
“…sell your organs…” refers to those groups that ultimately kill people, usually their own members but sometimes outsiders. e.g. Jonestown, Aum Shinrikyo, the branch Davidians, etc. There are too many to name, but i would include those faith healing parents who let their children die from easily treated illnesses here.
Keep in mind, religion is supposed to be -good- for society and is why they have tax-exempt status in the first place. Every religious group -should- be the very first type in this list here. The fact that they aren’t is a scandal and is one of the reasons i advocate for a “societal benefit” means test for religious groups. Or better yet, drop this category altogether and just have them apply to be a charity where that already exists (it does, doesn’t it?).
jmsr
My BFF’s daughter was trying to schedule having her son receive Confirmation. They had recently moved to the area & were wanting to register with “the church”. When they went in to register & asked about getting their son Confirmed….the (lets just say) the “official” told them they’d have to bring in their previous years Income Tax Return & THEN they would be TOLD how much “they should tithe” weekly……Seriously, YES, true story…. They DID what was asked since the next church would have been an inconvenient trip…..
Thanks RB for showing how the last Kool-Aid drinkers are desperately trying to connect some dots.
Interesting, Brian. Is this outdoor restaurant a public eatery or just for Scientologists?
It’s supposed to be for scientologists except for the PR open house events. It’s mainly however, so the registrars know where to find there ‘prospects’ like in gold mining ?
Aqua, it’s an outdoor eatery always set up. It’s for Scientologists.
Thanks, Cece and Brian.
“There’s a sucker born every minute” P. T. Barnum
This whole thing fascinates me – I don’t get it – but I am fascinated by it all! This depiction above is very much like the same pitch my now ex husband and I received way back in the early ’80’s. A couple we knew approached us with how to make our marriage better and please join us at this get together etc… we never went – then it was mostly because as newlyweds we just didn’t have the funds to even consider it. Then I mentioned it to my dad who was much more in tune with things – even then he knew it was a cult. His words to us were – if you have to “escape” from anything – it’s likely not where you want to be!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me twenty times take me to the psych ward.
Psych ward = Ship of Fool(proof)s. ‘nuf said.
All aboard! 😉
🙂 Wynski. And spot on. Its almost like they’re begging to be scammed, conned , lied to.
They’re just so willing. And the cult duly obliges.
Fool me infinitely and you are a Miscavage style Scientologist.Fool me more it makes me feel so good.
Stop blaming Miscavage. He is just giving the last sheeple what the want.
Wow, xenu’s son, I had the same thought and posted it before reading your post. Exactly right! Stop blaming Miscavige! He only succeeds because his marks are so dumb. They LIKE being suckers. It makes them feel good. I do believe that! Seriously, no joke. I believe that.
Do you need a reservation to get into the psych ward?
Not with your kind of connections, OSD.
What? Sorry, I was taking a hit. Now that’s some good cannabis.
Maybe not reservations but I do think there’s a dress code in there…
🙂
Hmmmm….I just posted a comment a moment ago, and it’s disappeared!
Ghost in the Machine…
Who ya gonna call……Ghost Busters…….Probably a crazed Body Thetan at work…..
Peter (and everyone else who ends up posting the same message several times), you MUST be a little patient. When you post a comment, it takes AT LEAST FIVE (5) MINUTES! Just wait, it will show up.
It has been my previous experience to see it pop up immediately saying it was being moderated. In this case, it had still not shown up until sometime today…the next day.
Lies, lies, lies. Say ANYHING, promise ANYTHING to keep the lies going and financially supported. You’ve once again right on the head, RB! “Carl” has already spotted the outness repeatedly and is soon to be out himself! .
Exactly, Peter. Not feeding the cow but just continuing to milk the cow until at last its bone dry and dead.
That’s what Miscavige has been doing, I’d say, for the past 10 years.
More and more I think the Ideal Morgue program is and has been a part of David Miscavige’s ultimate goal to exit Scientology (we could call it “Mexit”, or “Dexit” if you like). His admin scale as to how he’ll “move off the lines with unlimited cash in his pockets, etc.” (I think this paraphrase of mine derives from the Power Formula. Sorry, too lazy to look it up.) I pretty convinced now that he’s long know that Scientology is doomed and he’ll need to exit at some point, but wants to do so with a sparkling legacy and as much money as possible. This means that he doesn’t care who gets turned off by his aggressive milking; it doesn’t matter because he know the cult is doomed anyway, so just get whatever money the dumb shits want to give him, whenever and however he can, for as long as he can.
I see three possibilities:
1. The toxic dwarf is a true believer and is in his own bubble of obliviousness, believing his own propaganda.
2. Cabbage believes, but is pulling his hair out, frantic that the ship is sinking, and everything he knows to do is failing. (Personally, I hope this is the truth, as it would be a special kind of living hell.)
3. He knows it’s a scam and knows its failing. He dreams nightly of how to keep the money flowing and the ship sinking at the same time, while looking forward to his imminent retirement after destroying $cn.
I personally don’t think he will be able to get away with just disappearing. No matter where he goes, current law can go after him. Perhaps Brazil, which has no agreement with the US to return US citizen criminals. However, if he were to live there, he would need to learn the Portuguese language, a very difficult one and hardly what Dimwit would take on. And without that, he would be virtually alone. Kidnapping would also become a very real possibility as crime is pretty rife down there.
Aqua: Once out of the US and no longer under the “safety” of the 1st Amendment, my blieve is that he will be tracked down – by either the authorities or by others of a lesser ilk who will use far less pleasant efforts to disengage him from his funds. I don’t believe he will have either a happy nor a safe retirement. He will have pulled it in.
Peter,
I agree with you. All his money will not afford him peace of mind. It will just make him a lot more physically comfortable and safe whilst he remains isolated and trapped in the truly gruesome mental prison he long ago chose to live in. His whole existence is based on lies and with each lie he puts another bar on his cell. If you believe in karma, and I do, then, no matter how much harm he’s wreaking on others there’s no one he’s hurting more than himself – not even close.
Been there done that on this one!
ME: “I’m not going to this event and then be told at the end no one can leave until we reach our goal.”
ED of the org: “I’ve been told by upper management that this is a brand new type of event and they assured me it is NOT a fundraiser.”
That night….well, you guessed it – FUNDRAISER. My last one
Well, sure! Why tell the truth and risk not getting some more money? Greatest good and all that.
With so many celebrity members already assuming a low profile, it’s just a matter of time before they’ll also start withdrawing financial support. Especially considering how TC and JT are bombing at the box office, how many more will follow? The best way the public can show its disdain for $ is to Not support any celebrity member endeavors, either ‘big screen’, or tv. Hit them in the pocket where it hurts!
Agreed. Everyone I know will NOT be seeing Tom Cruises’s Midlife Crisis 5 this summer, or whatever the hell they call it.
I hear that if you watch his films, you may go blind.
Is that why I now wear specs ? , should have known better .
I stopped watching his “stuff” when I suddenly discovered I needed glasses.
And there will be another Top Gun next year. Production
has not started yet but there are already bad reviews
out. Money, money and more money. Maybe Tom will
be flying a B-52 bomber as a remnant from the USGO
and DM will be the co-pilot. Oh well, might not be a good
idea – remember what happened to his first co-pilot!?
Yup, a real mission Impossible there: Repair SCN’s reputation and make it the coolest new religion.
Tom Cruise ( AKA Big Being Number Three) will be doing “Mission Impossible 15” and “Top Gun 10” in his botoxed, liposuctioned, and hair-plugged dotage. A cinematic one-trick pony if ever there was one.
WAYC, TC’s popularity has plummeted because he’s been only cashing in on his looks. He seems to have no interest in doing work that requires him to do more than show up an d look pretty.
JT TRIED to do a couple of “bad boy” chracters, but he’s such a doughboy that they fell dead flat. THEN there was Battlefield Earth…. Didn’t he “win” the Razzie for that?
Remember, boycotts don’t work unless there is a significant percentage of the potential audience participating. There were never enough Scientologists to threaten anyone credibly, not even in Clearwater when we tried to affect an election.
And TC as a CO-pilot? NEVER gonna happen. No pilot would want to risk his life with Dwarfenführer, given his track record of crashing things
$cientology has well proven to be a drag on an actor’s career. Whatever innate skills they have are subsumed by their rapacious quest for ever-increasing stats (money) despite their not honing the requisite skills of their craft.