Dio, I’m curious: why do you think this particular RB is hilarious? Funnier than all his others? Specifically, what amuses you so much? I would be interested in your answer if you have a minute.
Every time I read Mike’s blog I feel I am reading about some bizarre parallel universe, then I realize it is all happening right here and now and I must admit it is sad and painful to think I once dedicated 15 years of my precious life to this farcical, criminal organizacion. But, live and learn is our mission on this Earth.
It’s a bulls eye, all right, but it’s far from funny. Well, except for that one blonde guy who always wants to talk about Tom Cruise. This is one of the saddest I’ve ever seen.
Mary, I’m continuing to pray for your family and your son. I hope he comes home, soon. I hope they all do.
Thank you Ann. I appreciate it. One reason I wrote it the way I did today is because RB’s strip reminded me how absurd disconnection is. I mean we don’t really care if our son wants to do scientology; we still love him but the church can’t stand people talking about the abuses; so, they had to shut us up and prevent any sort of communication from seeping in about the abuses. They are failing dismally.
“…so, they had to shut us up and prevent any sort of communication from seeping in about the abuses.”
And you just nailed precisely why Scientology will fail, Mary. Scientology is ostensibly, in its purity, i.e. academically ALL about free and open and honest communication as the venue to ultimate freedom and full realization of a person’s potential.
So, the way to go about preserving and forwarding open communication is to FORBID communication?
Um, I think not!
That’s on the level of absurdity and workability as the Crusade wherein the Christians thought they could convert people to Catholicism by murdering them.
Mary….the head spinner is the similarities between cult like religions…how once someone is IN & has extended family members & friends trying to get them to leave…all of a sudden the extended family & friends are therefore forever & ever…..
SHUNNED….DISASSOCIATED….DISCONNECTED…..
A rose by any other name is still a rose…call it whatever you like…the end results are the same….you beloved family member is kept under lock & keep to kept them from hearing or being spoon fed ANYTHING OTHER THAN the caustic Kool Aid to keep them in the mindset & under the house rules to Obey without question.
The saddest part in all this is that you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. Someday I hope the son you returns to you, I know you all would walk through fire for him…
I don’t mean to brag (well maybe I do), but I had a five day Fathers Day vacation-fest with my kids who live down in So Cal. I’m very thankful and extremely lucky that our kids never became Scios. It’s something that I’ll never take for granted.
That is great!!! No parent should take it for granted and I’m sorry to say that I was one that did. Stories of disconnection sure do help one to realize that more and more. That is a very good thing.
A little bit off topic, but not too much:
Something is strange on Mark Rathbun’s blog.
Since February, the first screen displays the happy faces of Mike Rinder, Leah Remini and Tony Ortega.
They look really nice.
The words say one thing, and the pictures quite another thing.
I did Alcoboy. In their little evil minds they think that if they label people who oppose their evil cult as cult members, others will look more favorably on the scamology cult.
On a lighter note, guys their age should be mucking around with cars, nice cars, fast cars, sleek cars, chick-magnet cars, cars or trucks able to pull their bass boat or sailboat to the lake… not standing around wearing a stupid white shirt and a stupid tie waiting on a stupid bus for crying out loud. Sheesh. I guess this episode shows what happens when you grow up without adult supervision or adult role models or a little extra cash for life’s fun necessities like a cool vehicle… or any vehicle.
I called my dad on father’s day (he’s in the sea org) and he was genuinely surprised that I called to wish him a happy father’s day. He has two other children who are in the sea org… He actually mentioned that he didn’t think he could remember a time that someone had done anything for him on father’s day. :'(
Sadly that includes myself back when I was in that dump.
This is a bit off this topic, but one of the things that really bothers me the most it what about the children who are forced into this cult. If CYS know the story why are they not investigating the conditions these sweet, innocent children are forced to live in?
Peggy, children are not forced into this cult. The cult does not come and take children. Their parents raise them from infancy in a totally cult environment – cult schools, cult courses at the orgs, cult “spiritual counselinig” which in Scientology is called “auditing”. The children have cult parents who with the best of intentions I should add, raised them according to cult principles about how children should be raised. They frequently have only cult friends. They are taught from Day One that the non-Scientology world is a dangerous, out-ethics, suppressive environment and they are reinforced in this this absurdity by their parents, friends and teachers, who also believe this. When these children hit their early teens, the Sea Org recruiters come for them to get them into the Sea Org, but by that time they’ve already been “softened up”. By that time their former training has taken hold to some extent and they are quite susceptible to the cult’s enticements. The cult also teaches and the parents reinforce that education and especially college or higher learning, learning a trade, etc. is not important, and that the only important thing to do is study and practice Scientology. Plenty of them quit high school at 16 with their parents shrugging at this. As high school drop outs they fall into a demographic that is harldly employable and being dependent upon their parents for food, clothing and shelter well into their 20s making them ripe fruit for the cult to manipulate and use for their own purposes.. To sum up, the little ones are not snatched from their mother’s arms. That may make for moving and beautiful poetry but its not what happens. The cult cannot and does not force them; by the times the kids are old enough to be besieged by the recruiters, their lifelong conditioning has made them extremely susceptible. Their koolaid addiction begins very early and the pushers , with the best of intentions, were their koolaid addicted parents.
I didn’t say the cult grabbed the children, (and I wouldn’t ever see anything even remotely poetic about it). Of course, some did live with their parents. Some were indoctrinated into cult beliefs, but just watching Leah and Mike’s A&E documentary some parents (certainly not all) turned over control of their child’s welfare to the cult. Some families like the Kahns let their children decide for themselves whether or not they wanted to be Scientologists and if they didn’t, or wanted to leave, their parents didn’t and wouldn’t try to force them in any way to stay.
LRH’s own words that children were old spirits in little bodies says a lot about how it was justified that they be treated like adults from working long hours and exposed to physical and sometimes sexual abuse. What choice did these children have? And even when they got older, what was their choice? Little education, zero support group, no where else to go.
The Cadet Org – little to no supervision and long work hours for very young children. Yes yes yes, it no longer exists. (right)
Testimonials from Chantal Dodson, Sherry Ollins, Mimi Faust, Christi Gordon who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.
And how about The Ranches and Nathan Rich and Tara Reile. How is it that no one outside this cult checked into what was going on there? Yes yes yes, it no longer exists. (right)
What I am asking is if these things happened, where was the oversight by any authority, government agency, whose job is to protect children. How could they not know something very wrong was going on? Or, is this cult so politically protected that looking the other way, or not at all, had some benefit to them? Damn them. And damn the greedy self-righteous bastards at the top of the food chain within this cult, the celeb snobs, their attorneys, the big donors, who just look the other way or just don’t look at all as long as they get their perks and paper certificates.
Someone who purposely brought harm to a child like this cult condoned, my personal belief, will answer to someone way (infinitely) over my pay grade.
And for all my bla bla bla here, unless on Ebay someone offers a Mr. Peabody WABAC machine, I will have to just do the best I can with what I have to work with concerning some wrongdoings, bad choices, in my own past. Heck who knows what I can screw up tomorrow!
From ghoulies and ghosties And long-leggedy beasties And things that go bump in the night, Good Lord, deliver us! ( Scottish Prayer)
“who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.”
Peggy, MILLIONS of American parents do that on a daily basis with daycare centers. LOTS of bad stuff happens to those kids. Been in the news since the 70’s and the latch key kids phenomena.
“who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.”
Peggy, MILLIONS of American parents do that on a daily basis with daycare centers. LOTS of bad stuff happens to those kids. Been in the news since the 70’s and the latch key kids phenomena.”
No arguments from me Wynski. Sad no matter which way you look at it isn’t it.
I do appreciate being schooled on the ways and means of what happened inside. I can’t know exactly what it was like for any of you, but there are people in the outside world who didn’t have to have been in scientology to have empathy and understanding for those who were.
That is just so heartbreaking and sad….So many families never talking or seeing each other again until it’s too late. Praying that they all wake up and realize that family is much more important then a cult
Praying they all wake up. Me too. While they are in they don’t think like that, Linear logic exclusively focused on their next step, avidly avioding bad news, really and truly believing that clearing the planet is possible.
Some need a personal hiatus to stop them and get them thinking.
Wow this is a tough one. SO true.. brings back a lot of memories of my Mum missing out on so many things that were important to her.. from my wedding, to my daghter’s birth and first few years – a lot. She was a wog and I was S.O. end of story. And trying so hard to get time off to have a day with my daughter. This is bang on RB, Bang on. SMH.
Sammy, Your father’s birthday is tomorrow. Can you call or maybe even text him to wish him Happy Birthday? Oh wait! That might interfere with your eligibility to go OT; yea, your sec check would increase by maybe 100 questions and another $100K. Gosh! The embarrassment that might bring when your friends notice how much longer it takes you to get through your Eligibility and the Lowers you will have to do for wishing him a Happy Birthday and all the amends and signatures you have to get! Yea, never mind.
Whoever thought a simple cartoon could break my heart? If a religion requires you to separate from your loved ones, then it’s time to find a new religion
Scientology is NOT a religion! By ANY stretch of the imagination! IT IS A vicious, toxic, militant, CULT! It has NO redeeming value. All it does is is destroy people.
According to Hubtard’s chart of human evaluation El wRong was VERY “low toned” when it came to family. He threw ALL of his wives away, estranged himself from all of his children and treated them in varying degrees, from indifference to committing violent (death penalty level crimes) felonies against them.
By ANY objective medical standard he was criminally insane. His “church” merely reflects that insanity.
When Fatso heard the news that Quinton (sp?) had killed him self, he ragged saying: ‘Look what that fucking kid do to me!’ With Mary Sue crying her eyes out.
Yes, it takes awhile for the degree of that to sink in, but Hubbard was the most incredibly self centered fuck imaginable. How he hides it is strewn throughout his so called tech when you look at it closely. Best example is the auditor’s code & the code of a Scientologist. They sound great on paper and can produce a very soothing effect but in actuality he never practiced them honestly, but actually did quite the opposite. Hence his leadership ethos remains as the most treasonous management mindset and is practiced by all Scio executives to this day. Additionally the FSM system could be referred to as Scientology’s militia. Scientology’s hypocrisy is set in concrete, it has to be for it cannot operate without it. The auditing session application using its own code turned out to be one big twisted bait and switch operation, it’s all part of the con. So many of us worked very hard and brought that code to life, for it’s use can create a wonderful effect in caring hands. But where it leads is misery in the Cof$. The path to hell is composed of good intentions (or some such wording). It’s criminal to the core Scientology and is one of the more insidious of human abuses. A close inspection of Hubbard’s “policy” gives any sane person a dose of the chills.
RB, a chilly reminder of the consequence of Scientology’s application to life this morning.
All of Hubbard’s supposed “codes” are suffused with qualifications, and what is actually situational ethics – always interpreted so that anything can be done to forward Scientology’s interests, and any command from above in Scientology must be obeyed.
For example, the code of a scientologist reads “Never fear to hurt another in a just cause” – and Scientology is always a just cause, so it’s practically a mandate to hurt people as necessary or when ordered. “Never withdraw allegiance once granted” only applies to, and within, Scientology – it’s used to require people to maintain unswerving loyalty to the organization, but to break other allegiances (including family, the topic of today). In a similar vein, “Never desert a group to which you owe your support” only applies to Scientology, once one has gotten into Scientology – previous and other groups can and should be abandoned. And so on.
The auditor’s code starts off with “do not evaluate for the preclear.” Later on, “never permit the PC to end a session” is an evaluation that the PC can never be in some state of discomfort or distress that could justify their needing a break. All the commands (a term used in hypnosis) and lists used in auditing are full of evaluations that PCs uniformly have certain problems and transgressions – and, implicitly, that other things are not important – and that they have lived before on other planets, and so on. Using the e-meter sets up the construct that only things that read on the Scientology meter matter in the PC’s case, things they may express or ask for are dismissed if they don’t read, and then the auditor is left constantly evaluating the reads to determine the course of the session – even if the PC might want to bring up something different.
Yes, spot on, better explained than I. There has only ever been one way Scientology can go, and that is downwards, no matter what the intention. In fact, the really sickening wake up call is the fact the harder to try to make it work the more of an asshole you eventually become. It is no wonder the well intentioned person who gets involved in Scientology either leaves (in disgust) or is thrown out (or worse, goes numb to emotional feelings/responses and turns into a robot). There is no place in that organization for human beings.
To walk the path of Scientology… geezers, what an ugly thing.
Peace to you Peacemaker.
His “Affirmations” were also a good indicator – with all sorts of bizarre ramblings about bed springs, going blind, being crap in bed…oh and enslaving mankind. http://www.lermanet.com/reference/Admissions.pdf
The young ones stay because from infancy they were placed by their parents in what is effectively a training camp to become cult bots who believe that the survival of the cult is all that matters BECAUSE the survival of the WORLD as we know it depends on Church of Scientology’s survival They’ve also been trained from infancy to believe that all relationships including close family are expendable if these relationships do not further the survival of the cult. ALL relationshiips are subordinate to the well being of the cult and can and should be dispensed with if or when such are perceived to harm or threaten the cult in any way. Steeped in cult lore from infancy, raised in the protective cult bubble by their cult parents, this is what they’ve been trained to believe from childhood and surprise, this is what they believe and, what, tragically, informs all of the decisions and activities of their lives..
RB, thanks for another inspiring “episode”. That is so sad. I can’t imagine what the father must feel when he doesn’t even get an acknowledgement for father’s day. My son had to work, so we’re going out to the go kart track this Sunday. I’m very lucky to have him. He’s a great kid (well maybe not so much of a kid anymore, he’s 30).
Aquamarine says
Dio, I’m curious: why do you think this particular RB is hilarious? Funnier than all his others? Specifically, what amuses you so much? I would be interested in your answer if you have a minute.
John says
Fuuuuuuuck
Alex Castillo (ex Flag Evaluator 1975-1981)7 says
Every time I read Mike’s blog I feel I am reading about some bizarre parallel universe, then I realize it is all happening right here and now and I must admit it is sad and painful to think I once dedicated 15 years of my precious life to this farcical, criminal organizacion. But, live and learn is our mission on this Earth.
xenu's son says
And have attainable ideal scenes.
smorbie says
It’s a bulls eye, all right, but it’s far from funny. Well, except for that one blonde guy who always wants to talk about Tom Cruise. This is one of the saddest I’ve ever seen.
Mary, I’m continuing to pray for your family and your son. I hope he comes home, soon. I hope they all do.
Ann Davis says
Mary your story breaks my heart. I pray your son sees the truth soon. Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there. People care!
Mary Kahn says
Thank you Ann. I appreciate it. One reason I wrote it the way I did today is because RB’s strip reminded me how absurd disconnection is. I mean we don’t really care if our son wants to do scientology; we still love him but the church can’t stand people talking about the abuses; so, they had to shut us up and prevent any sort of communication from seeping in about the abuses. They are failing dismally.
Aquamarine says
“…so, they had to shut us up and prevent any sort of communication from seeping in about the abuses.”
And you just nailed precisely why Scientology will fail, Mary. Scientology is ostensibly, in its purity, i.e. academically ALL about free and open and honest communication as the venue to ultimate freedom and full realization of a person’s potential.
So, the way to go about preserving and forwarding open communication is to FORBID communication?
Um, I think not!
That’s on the level of absurdity and workability as the Crusade wherein the Christians thought they could convert people to Catholicism by murdering them.
CO$ is doomed.
Balletlady says
Mary….the head spinner is the similarities between cult like religions…how once someone is IN & has extended family members & friends trying to get them to leave…all of a sudden the extended family & friends are therefore forever & ever…..
SHUNNED….DISASSOCIATED….DISCONNECTED…..
A rose by any other name is still a rose…call it whatever you like…the end results are the same….you beloved family member is kept under lock & keep to kept them from hearing or being spoon fed ANYTHING OTHER THAN the caustic Kool Aid to keep them in the mindset & under the house rules to Obey without question.
The saddest part in all this is that you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to be saved. Someday I hope the son you returns to you, I know you all would walk through fire for him…
xenu's son says
Thanks RB,
Probably describes what-my son said last week on the bus stop.
Only difference he sent me a “Ron” mag.
Chris Shugart says
I don’t mean to brag (well maybe I do), but I had a five day Fathers Day vacation-fest with my kids who live down in So Cal. I’m very thankful and extremely lucky that our kids never became Scios. It’s something that I’ll never take for granted.
Mary Kahn says
That is great!!! No parent should take it for granted and I’m sorry to say that I was one that did. Stories of disconnection sure do help one to realize that more and more. That is a very good thing.
Spike says
I found this very sad. I’m sure it’s quite real, too.☹️
Old Surfer Dude says
More real than you can imagine.
Spike says
We got out in time, Old Surfer Dude …
Curiosus says
A little bit off topic, but not too much:
Something is strange on Mark Rathbun’s blog.
Since February, the first screen displays the happy faces of Mike Rinder, Leah Remini and Tony Ortega.
They look really nice.
The words say one thing, and the pictures quite another thing.
Outsider says
The strange thing is the mind of Marty Rathbun. Hates himself for being in Scientology but also hates himself for getting out.
Alcoboy says
Yeah, I saw that, too. Anybody notice that they referred to our little group as a cult?
Wynski says
I did Alcoboy. In their little evil minds they think that if they label people who oppose their evil cult as cult members, others will look more favorably on the scamology cult.
TRULY an insane viewpoint.
Ammo Alamo says
On a lighter note, guys their age should be mucking around with cars, nice cars, fast cars, sleek cars, chick-magnet cars, cars or trucks able to pull their bass boat or sailboat to the lake… not standing around wearing a stupid white shirt and a stupid tie waiting on a stupid bus for crying out loud. Sheesh. I guess this episode shows what happens when you grow up without adult supervision or adult role models or a little extra cash for life’s fun necessities like a cool vehicle… or any vehicle.
Still Laying Low says
I called my dad on father’s day (he’s in the sea org) and he was genuinely surprised that I called to wish him a happy father’s day. He has two other children who are in the sea org… He actually mentioned that he didn’t think he could remember a time that someone had done anything for him on father’s day. :'(
Sadly that includes myself back when I was in that dump.
Old Surfer Dude says
My God! How terribly sad. But, that’s Scientology.
omegapaladin says
You can tell when it is really bad when even the Old Surfer Dude is getting serious.
Destroying families seems to be what the Tech does best, after robbing you blind of course.
Scientology – ensuring every member has at least as dysfunctional a family as LRon.
Mary Kahn says
Yup. Sad but true.
Peggy L says
This is a bit off this topic, but one of the things that really bothers me the most it what about the children who are forced into this cult. If CYS know the story why are they not investigating the conditions these sweet, innocent children are forced to live in?
Aquamarine says
Peggy, children are not forced into this cult. The cult does not come and take children. Their parents raise them from infancy in a totally cult environment – cult schools, cult courses at the orgs, cult “spiritual counselinig” which in Scientology is called “auditing”. The children have cult parents who with the best of intentions I should add, raised them according to cult principles about how children should be raised. They frequently have only cult friends. They are taught from Day One that the non-Scientology world is a dangerous, out-ethics, suppressive environment and they are reinforced in this this absurdity by their parents, friends and teachers, who also believe this. When these children hit their early teens, the Sea Org recruiters come for them to get them into the Sea Org, but by that time they’ve already been “softened up”. By that time their former training has taken hold to some extent and they are quite susceptible to the cult’s enticements. The cult also teaches and the parents reinforce that education and especially college or higher learning, learning a trade, etc. is not important, and that the only important thing to do is study and practice Scientology. Plenty of them quit high school at 16 with their parents shrugging at this. As high school drop outs they fall into a demographic that is harldly employable and being dependent upon their parents for food, clothing and shelter well into their 20s making them ripe fruit for the cult to manipulate and use for their own purposes.. To sum up, the little ones are not snatched from their mother’s arms. That may make for moving and beautiful poetry but its not what happens. The cult cannot and does not force them; by the times the kids are old enough to be besieged by the recruiters, their lifelong conditioning has made them extremely susceptible. Their koolaid addiction begins very early and the pushers , with the best of intentions, were their koolaid addicted parents.
Peggy L says
I didn’t say the cult grabbed the children, (and I wouldn’t ever see anything even remotely poetic about it). Of course, some did live with their parents. Some were indoctrinated into cult beliefs, but just watching Leah and Mike’s A&E documentary some parents (certainly not all) turned over control of their child’s welfare to the cult. Some families like the Kahns let their children decide for themselves whether or not they wanted to be Scientologists and if they didn’t, or wanted to leave, their parents didn’t and wouldn’t try to force them in any way to stay.
LRH’s own words that children were old spirits in little bodies says a lot about how it was justified that they be treated like adults from working long hours and exposed to physical and sometimes sexual abuse. What choice did these children have? And even when they got older, what was their choice? Little education, zero support group, no where else to go.
The Cadet Org – little to no supervision and long work hours for very young children. Yes yes yes, it no longer exists. (right)
Testimonials from Chantal Dodson, Sherry Ollins, Mimi Faust, Christi Gordon who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.
And how about The Ranches and Nathan Rich and Tara Reile. How is it that no one outside this cult checked into what was going on there? Yes yes yes, it no longer exists. (right)
What I am asking is if these things happened, where was the oversight by any authority, government agency, whose job is to protect children. How could they not know something very wrong was going on? Or, is this cult so politically protected that looking the other way, or not at all, had some benefit to them? Damn them. And damn the greedy self-righteous bastards at the top of the food chain within this cult, the celeb snobs, their attorneys, the big donors, who just look the other way or just don’t look at all as long as they get their perks and paper certificates.
Someone who purposely brought harm to a child like this cult condoned, my personal belief, will answer to someone way (infinitely) over my pay grade.
And for all my bla bla bla here, unless on Ebay someone offers a Mr. Peabody WABAC machine, I will have to just do the best I can with what I have to work with concerning some wrongdoings, bad choices, in my own past. Heck who knows what I can screw up tomorrow!
From ghoulies and ghosties And long-leggedy beasties And things that go bump in the night, Good Lord, deliver us! ( Scottish Prayer)
Wynski says
“who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.”
Peggy, MILLIONS of American parents do that on a daily basis with daycare centers. LOTS of bad stuff happens to those kids. Been in the news since the 70’s and the latch key kids phenomena.
Peggy L says
“Wynski says
June 23, 2018 at 12:38 pm
“who at 2-years-old left to the care of strangers and eventually sexually abused, Mirriam, Saina, and others.”
Peggy, MILLIONS of American parents do that on a daily basis with daycare centers. LOTS of bad stuff happens to those kids. Been in the news since the 70’s and the latch key kids phenomena.”
No arguments from me Wynski. Sad no matter which way you look at it isn’t it.
Wynski says
Well said Aqua! And very informative to boot.
Spike says
Yes, Aqua, that is so true.
Peggy L says
I do appreciate being schooled on the ways and means of what happened inside. I can’t know exactly what it was like for any of you, but there are people in the outside world who didn’t have to have been in scientology to have empathy and understanding for those who were.
Spike says
Thanks for caring, Peggy.
Peggy L says
More than you know Spike and I wish you so much happiness. 🙂
Spike says
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Gail says
That is just so heartbreaking and sad….So many families never talking or seeing each other again until it’s too late. Praying that they all wake up and realize that family is much more important then a cult
Old Surfer Dude says
I hope so, too. But, as long as they continue to drink the Kool-Ade…
pinklegs says
Praying they all wake up. Me too. While they are in they don’t think like that, Linear logic exclusively focused on their next step, avidly avioding bad news, really and truly believing that clearing the planet is possible.
Some need a personal hiatus to stop them and get them thinking.
unelectedfloofgoofer says
He sounds a bit nattery on the second dynamic. That won’t help with his conditions.
Madge Filpot says
Wow this is a tough one. SO true.. brings back a lot of memories of my Mum missing out on so many things that were important to her.. from my wedding, to my daghter’s birth and first few years – a lot. She was a wog and I was S.O. end of story. And trying so hard to get time off to have a day with my daughter. This is bang on RB, Bang on. SMH.
Mary Kahn says
Sammy, Your father’s birthday is tomorrow. Can you call or maybe even text him to wish him Happy Birthday? Oh wait! That might interfere with your eligibility to go OT; yea, your sec check would increase by maybe 100 questions and another $100K. Gosh! The embarrassment that might bring when your friends notice how much longer it takes you to get through your Eligibility and the Lowers you will have to do for wishing him a Happy Birthday and all the amends and signatures you have to get! Yea, never mind.
Marie guerin says
? Mary.
It will happen , he will be back. My sister will be back. We just don’t know when….and it sucks.
Mary Kahn says
Thanks Marie. I would love an update on how things are with the rest of your family.
Tam says
Mary I continue to pray for you and all those that are separated from their loved ones because of this cult. You will be reunited someday!
Mary Kahn says
Thank you 🙂
Another ex so says
RB took a sad turn there.
Too bad its true
Ammo Alamo says
This is the first RB that made me feel sad.
I think of all the young people who are trapped in a place where their only option seems to be conform even more to the Hubbard line.
Carlene Brooks says
Whoever thought a simple cartoon could break my heart? If a religion requires you to separate from your loved ones, then it’s time to find a new religion
Old Surfer Dude says
Scientology is NOT a religion! By ANY stretch of the imagination! IT IS A vicious, toxic, militant, CULT! It has NO redeeming value. All it does is is destroy people.
Kyle says
Stop holding back OSD.
Old Surfer Dude says
Yeah… I need to work on that.
Wynski says
According to Hubtard’s chart of human evaluation El wRong was VERY “low toned” when it came to family. He threw ALL of his wives away, estranged himself from all of his children and treated them in varying degrees, from indifference to committing violent (death penalty level crimes) felonies against them.
By ANY objective medical standard he was criminally insane. His “church” merely reflects that insanity.
Old Surfer Dude says
When Fatso heard the news that Quinton (sp?) had killed him self, he ragged saying: ‘Look what that fucking kid do to me!’ With Mary Sue crying her eyes out.
Hubbard was born evil.
Wynski says
True that OSD. Too bad abortion services weren’t readily available to Mrs. Hubbard
Old Surfer Dude says
I know! Damn!
I Yawnalot says
Yes, it takes awhile for the degree of that to sink in, but Hubbard was the most incredibly self centered fuck imaginable. How he hides it is strewn throughout his so called tech when you look at it closely. Best example is the auditor’s code & the code of a Scientologist. They sound great on paper and can produce a very soothing effect but in actuality he never practiced them honestly, but actually did quite the opposite. Hence his leadership ethos remains as the most treasonous management mindset and is practiced by all Scio executives to this day. Additionally the FSM system could be referred to as Scientology’s militia. Scientology’s hypocrisy is set in concrete, it has to be for it cannot operate without it. The auditing session application using its own code turned out to be one big twisted bait and switch operation, it’s all part of the con. So many of us worked very hard and brought that code to life, for it’s use can create a wonderful effect in caring hands. But where it leads is misery in the Cof$. The path to hell is composed of good intentions (or some such wording). It’s criminal to the core Scientology and is one of the more insidious of human abuses. A close inspection of Hubbard’s “policy” gives any sane person a dose of the chills.
RB, a chilly reminder of the consequence of Scientology’s application to life this morning.
PeaceMaker says
All of Hubbard’s supposed “codes” are suffused with qualifications, and what is actually situational ethics – always interpreted so that anything can be done to forward Scientology’s interests, and any command from above in Scientology must be obeyed.
For example, the code of a scientologist reads “Never fear to hurt another in a just cause” – and Scientology is always a just cause, so it’s practically a mandate to hurt people as necessary or when ordered. “Never withdraw allegiance once granted” only applies to, and within, Scientology – it’s used to require people to maintain unswerving loyalty to the organization, but to break other allegiances (including family, the topic of today). In a similar vein, “Never desert a group to which you owe your support” only applies to Scientology, once one has gotten into Scientology – previous and other groups can and should be abandoned. And so on.
The auditor’s code starts off with “do not evaluate for the preclear.” Later on, “never permit the PC to end a session” is an evaluation that the PC can never be in some state of discomfort or distress that could justify their needing a break. All the commands (a term used in hypnosis) and lists used in auditing are full of evaluations that PCs uniformly have certain problems and transgressions – and, implicitly, that other things are not important – and that they have lived before on other planets, and so on. Using the e-meter sets up the construct that only things that read on the Scientology meter matter in the PC’s case, things they may express or ask for are dismissed if they don’t read, and then the auditor is left constantly evaluating the reads to determine the course of the session – even if the PC might want to bring up something different.
I Yawnalot says
Yes, spot on, better explained than I. There has only ever been one way Scientology can go, and that is downwards, no matter what the intention. In fact, the really sickening wake up call is the fact the harder to try to make it work the more of an asshole you eventually become. It is no wonder the well intentioned person who gets involved in Scientology either leaves (in disgust) or is thrown out (or worse, goes numb to emotional feelings/responses and turns into a robot). There is no place in that organization for human beings.
To walk the path of Scientology… geezers, what an ugly thing.
Peace to you Peacemaker.
mwesten says
His “Affirmations” were also a good indicator – with all sorts of bizarre ramblings about bed springs, going blind, being crap in bed…oh and enslaving mankind. http://www.lermanet.com/reference/Admissions.pdf
My Inner Space says
This has given me a real sad.
Alcoboy says
It just makes me wonder: if the Sea Org is that bad, why do people stay?
Marie guerin says
Prison of belief , Alcoboy.
Old Surfer Dude says
They’re still waiting for their magical powers.
Aquamarine says
The young ones stay because from infancy they were placed by their parents in what is effectively a training camp to become cult bots who believe that the survival of the cult is all that matters BECAUSE the survival of the WORLD as we know it depends on Church of Scientology’s survival They’ve also been trained from infancy to believe that all relationships including close family are expendable if these relationships do not further the survival of the cult. ALL relationshiips are subordinate to the well being of the cult and can and should be dispensed with if or when such are perceived to harm or threaten the cult in any way. Steeped in cult lore from infancy, raised in the protective cult bubble by their cult parents, this is what they’ve been trained to believe from childhood and surprise, this is what they believe and, what, tragically, informs all of the decisions and activities of their lives..
Beach8 says
RB, thanks for another inspiring “episode”. That is so sad. I can’t imagine what the father must feel when he doesn’t even get an acknowledgement for father’s day. My son had to work, so we’re going out to the go kart track this Sunday. I’m very lucky to have him. He’s a great kid (well maybe not so much of a kid anymore, he’s 30).
Dio says
ROTFLMFAO!
This is the funniest “Regraded Being” I ever read.
It is fucking hilarious!
It is too funny!
It is too real!
It is 100% traction into the bubble, into the “case” of the cos (especially DM).
It is bull’s eye!
Who is the writer of this?
Dio