I spent a few hours today studying BPD – Borderline personality disorder. I’m pretty convinced that LRH was pretty messed up in the head. Perhapes while his wife was around she managed to keep him somewhat on keal.
It’s comforting to know that real studies have gone forward since the 50s and these conditions can be brought under control.
Once I figured out LRH was seriously mentally stressed (read his Affirmations) his solutions can be all seen as the problems. It’s a BIG problem living with and amoung narcissic person’s thinking the lie Scientology will do anything but make it worse. Proff is in the history.
I’m so sorry for all the pain and confusion everyone here has from trying to “save the planet “. No one doubts your intentions were sincere. That is the hurtful element. All us wogs out here wish we could help. The world is a wonderful place. Try to remember that someone escapes from that death trap every day because you have the courage to post the truth here. I wish you all peace, love and joy.
Ahhh… another good one RB! The true ‘cycle of Scientology’ where even the Scientology concept of ‘Tiger’ would arouse the suspicion & ire of the RSPCA. (Royal Society of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals).
The cruelty ingrained within the policy and command structure of Scientology destroys all the joy life has to offer. Life is tough enough as it is but with Scientology’s double standards, betrayals and outright lies it puts it in its own despicable class.
Hubbard turned family love into a weapon!
The APPEARANCES were different. It APPEARED less militaristic. It. Was. Not. The fear was palpable. Don’t kid yourself. If you left, you knew you would be hunted down. Disconnection was real. There was a sweetness and light on the outside, which is what was portrayed to the world, but the rotten inner core was not Miscavige. I was there. I am not pretending I wasn’t.
The paranoia, the witch hunts, they did not start with Miscavige and anyone who would like to pretend they did can ask the person who looked for me the day I disappeared or the person who posted years after my disappearance that my ethics order was the strangest ethics order he had ever seen.
Everything was sweetness and light until bam! you were the spawn of satan. That is the difference these days, there is not the sweetness and light these days that there was there, you are always considered the spawn of satan.
BUT it was LRH who said:
“People attack Scientology, I never forget it, always even the score. People attack auditors, or staff, or organisations, or me. I never forget until the slate is clear.”
– L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
“You’re here so you’re a Scientologist. Now we’re going to make you into an expert auditor no matter what happens. We’d rather have you dead than incapable.”
Keeping Scientology Working HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
One of these was written they year before David Miscavige was born, one was written when he was 5 years old. David Miscavige just took control of an already rotten organization and stripped the VENEER of sweetness and light away from it. This is a good thing, it may cause it to go away.
Your memory of the environment matches mine ’74 forward except you were in management?
I thought so much of LRH I figured it would be better at an advanced org producing OTs and in many ways it was. But it became more and more obvious when the truly nuts executives would show up on mission and use more force then needed to get a point across. Then they would get posted in our org and things fell apart and became hard to not see. My rights became privledges ~ like to take a day off with my kids or plan a 3 week leave the family could go on together when 2 of my 4 children were also on SO staff.
So glad I was kicked out by ’96 and my 20 years were spent mostly with very caring crew at AOLA. Management CLO WUS, CMO PAC, FB I worked with daily as an FBO we’re displaying various degrees of physical and mental problems (not that I wasn’t by then LOL).
Ahh, the imaginary ‘good old days’. Postulates aside, were the old days any better? Yeah, on very odd occasions someone may have acted nicely, but how often did that really happen?
It was all about the money in the ‘good old days’ too.
“Then” and “now” might more properly be be “Yeasterday” and “Today”, or “Morning” and “Afternoon”, as bipolar is that organization (Really: DISorganization).
RB dude, I was there then. No hyperbole in your latest post. However there was a lot of unofficial family disconnection going on in the late 60s. We all did try to apply “communication is the universal solvent”.
OH my, exactly how it was back in the day. And how naive and stupid we all were thinking we were going to change the world and how great scient. was and yeah, meanwhile back at the GO offices…
Perfectly represented. If you need help to see how deep down they went, look even just 10 years ago compare to today, and bingo. You got it taped: $$ientology going fastly down the ditch. World diffeeence.
Disconnection was always policy, but another policy letter says something like “this policy applies mainly to people who are pressing in from the outside”. The Ethics Officer had a lot of leeway about how to apply disconnection. It was considered a last resort after all other avenues have been exhausted.
Nowadays they don’t even bother to issue a goldenrod issue. The word goes out on Facebook that somebody is “off” and everybody unfriends them out of fear that they will get caught consorting with the enemy.
Disconnection is being used as a weapon to stop the bleeding, but they can’t see how it is just making things worse. Maybe some will pretend to go along just to keep their jobs or be able to see the grandkids, but in reality the threat of disconnection puts them on the road out.
Apparently, the EP of “The Golden Age Of Suppressing Parishioners and Staff” is zero Scientology. Readily observed by people on the outside. Not so apparent to a clubbed seal on the inside.
IMNHO, the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) Hie’s definitely succeeded in his chosen task.
IMNHO, the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) He’s definitely succeeding in his chosen tasks.
You hit the nail on the head Jere Lull. “the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) He’s definitely succeeding in his chosen tasks.”
Who told people to throw other people off a ship into the water. Who ordered a child locked in chain lockers. Who set up a team to infiltrate governments and steal documents?
The CO$ is as it was set-up to be. Create the rules of a narcissistic, paranoid, despotic group – don’t be amazed that it becomes what the creator set it up to be. Wee Davy was just the best at being the next narcissistic, paranoid, despotic leader.
Tubby took hisself S-o-o-o seriously! Anyone who questioned any of his edicts, OR knew someone who MIGHT similarly show independence, was an ENEMY to be ruthlessly attacked and destroyed by all means available. He certainly didn’t play it like a game which could be won or lost playfully. Given that mindset, the all-or-nothing “gradients” he actually used, of COURSE he became paranoid, honestly fearing THEY were really out to get him. AND with the number of his O/Ws, there were so many things he was guilty of
Yes and yessss. An enjoyable RB, in the spirit offered.. But not to be taken too broadly.
I was in headbands while holding out my sippy cup eagerly for my first Kool-Aid …. Amid the kumbaya love bombing we had the GO coming down and scooping the entire GI for the week, leaving us still broke and now STill Owing the management percentage for uplines.
The same GO were declaring our execs, and Snow White was about to be raided… Ron L. was just coming up to throwing his wife to the wolves.
..
They’re still trying to reel in Youthful Doers with little wins as bait for the Big Expensive Lies.. and it’s funny to see them try to appeal to these generations..
(Miss Lovely was a helluva book, eh? It was devastating to get the story of what the grown ups were doing while I was joyfully joining in bodyrouting all-hands.)
It seems to me the Miscavige’s assuming control, was just a symptom of Hubbard wanting all of Scientology to be run Sea Org style. I don’t think that the old man cared for the sort of hippie theetie-weetiness that was going on on the outer orgs, and especially the missions. According to what I’ve heard from some old timers, the orgs and even some of the missions had started to get more much hardcore before Miscavige even came on the scene.
The missions were starting to go off on tangents. Some that appeared to be successful. Missions were the backbone of the public division. When they got creamed Scientology began to rely on publicity instead of word of mouth.
Indeed. As I sometimes mention, some had become sort of little cults of their own, with their own particular dysfunctions and abuses. And some were indeed keeping two sets of books, perhaps in understandable response to Hubbard’s demands for cuts of the money – but they were.
If Miscavige hadn’t cracked down, I think it’s almost certain that Hubbard would have had someone else do it. And if no one had, the missions probably would really have started to go their own way, and for better or worse, Scientology would have disintegrated like other groups of its era, or been left as some small shell of itself like Eckankar.
Cough, sputter…further choking in a fit of disgust and disbelief…
El Con was an abusive, disgusting, narcisstic criminal who engineered the largest domestic espionage operation in US history, among other ” mistakes “. The veneer
may have been different in the early days, but the stink of cruelty, fraud, and abuse still emanated from the Tilden Turd and his shitty creations, dianutty and scientoology.
The only ” golden age ” in scientology was the time when its essential evil could operate more freely and covertly and suppress dissent and crush investigations with impunity and reckless savagery.
Of course, some old scientologists and ex-scientologists-not YOU, necessarily- still prefer to romanticize non-consensual hypnosis, indoctrination, bait-and-switch, and other forms of manipulation and personal degradation carried out in a highly controlled and isolated cult environment. It was ALWAYS fucked up and evil-by design.
One of the things that I struggle with is no longer “having any fond memories”.
I loved Scn, loved being staff, loved LRH, etc etc… and even during crazy hard times and injustice and so on, there was the deep seated belief in what I was doing. Looking back, I would mentally catalogue things as”war stories” …. so even things that were just HELL to live through, could be viewed favorably even as to just, “I survived it”.
But since I got in when I was a very young teen, my young time was all about scn.
The magnitude of the lies and what I gave up and lost is beyond description – but to wallow in that too much is the road to doom for me…
I don’t know how this ends up for me….
It’s still a work in progress… but mainly… I don’t look back with fondness and don’t go in for story telling anymore. Not just now…
I don’t know how to think about it or look at it yet.
…….
It was a complete waste of time and I threw my life away …but I loved it at the time…?
I hear you. The best I can come up with… we are veterans, but nobody really owns your tomorrow except you. That’s the way I try to keep a handle on things.
Is life complicated – hell yes! If it wasn’t for family, recreational pursuits & things like alcohol plus the mysterious desires concerning the opposite sex (no matter how many kicks in the head it provides) I wouldn’t be here tying away.
Look out fish – I just happen to like owning, using fishing tackle & developing new techniques. And look out Scientology & Scientologists, I just happen to be a veteran of your system – I know you better than you know yourselves, that’s the weird but honest thing about Scientology – only a veteran of it truly understands what it’s like.
I supported a scientologist as a non scientologist. His lack of empathy and care for me as a human being has really become evident. I really tried not to judge him. I liked him.
I am quite devasted and disillusioned and realise that what everyone was trying to tell me-stay away he is in scientology.
He has stopped communicating because we had minor issues with us to work out but they were major with Scientology. He is doing 0T7.
I met him purely by chance on a general dating site.
Very sad and I think not good he is on a dating site as he can target vulnerable woman and steer them towards scientology.
I was lucky our distance from each other stopped him pursuing me seriously.
My family and most of my friends have no idea we stayed communicating after the initial 3 months. It’s now 18 months.
I’m not at all sad about what happened in scientology in terms of it becoming more hard core in the missions and outer orgs. Had it remained a hippy dippy fun cult, I might have stayed in longer. As it was, it still took a long time for me to completely leave. I had heard the story about Paulette Cooper from a GO guy and thought it was just hyperbole. Was I ever wrong!! When Hubbard let his wife take the fall for Snow White, he lost whatever respect I had left for him. When our mission was dissolved and was replaced by an org, it wasn’t fun anymore. And when they started using monthly price increases to “encourage” people to pay for services “before prices go up next month” I just gave up. When it looked like I might have to disconnect from my best friend, that was it. I’m glad that the insanity spread from the sea org to the outer orgs. There were a lot of us who exited in the early 80s because of it.
Enjoyed it a lot… a nice one RB. Good to see you keep it up and are OK.
I, really miss the comm though…
It was really like that RB! Spot on
I spent a few hours today studying BPD – Borderline personality disorder. I’m pretty convinced that LRH was pretty messed up in the head. Perhapes while his wife was around she managed to keep him somewhat on keal.
It’s comforting to know that real studies have gone forward since the 50s and these conditions can be brought under control.
Once I figured out LRH was seriously mentally stressed (read his Affirmations) his solutions can be all seen as the problems. It’s a BIG problem living with and amoung narcissic person’s thinking the lie Scientology will do anything but make it worse. Proff is in the history.
I’m so sorry for all the pain and confusion everyone here has from trying to “save the planet “. No one doubts your intentions were sincere. That is the hurtful element. All us wogs out here wish we could help. The world is a wonderful place. Try to remember that someone escapes from that death trap every day because you have the courage to post the truth here. I wish you all peace, love and joy.
That’s so sad and devastating to me.
Ahhh… another good one RB! The true ‘cycle of Scientology’ where even the Scientology concept of ‘Tiger’ would arouse the suspicion & ire of the RSPCA. (Royal Society of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals).
The cruelty ingrained within the policy and command structure of Scientology destroys all the joy life has to offer. Life is tough enough as it is but with Scientology’s double standards, betrayals and outright lies it puts it in its own despicable class.
Hubbard turned family love into a weapon!
How accurate. He sure did!
The APPEARANCES were different. It APPEARED less militaristic. It. Was. Not. The fear was palpable. Don’t kid yourself. If you left, you knew you would be hunted down. Disconnection was real. There was a sweetness and light on the outside, which is what was portrayed to the world, but the rotten inner core was not Miscavige. I was there. I am not pretending I wasn’t.
The paranoia, the witch hunts, they did not start with Miscavige and anyone who would like to pretend they did can ask the person who looked for me the day I disappeared or the person who posted years after my disappearance that my ethics order was the strangest ethics order he had ever seen.
Everything was sweetness and light until bam! you were the spawn of satan. That is the difference these days, there is not the sweetness and light these days that there was there, you are always considered the spawn of satan.
BUT it was LRH who said:
“People attack Scientology, I never forget it, always even the score. People attack auditors, or staff, or organisations, or me. I never forget until the slate is clear.”
– L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
“You’re here so you’re a Scientologist. Now we’re going to make you into an expert auditor no matter what happens. We’d rather have you dead than incapable.”
Keeping Scientology Working HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
One of these was written they year before David Miscavige was born, one was written when he was 5 years old. David Miscavige just took control of an already rotten organization and stripped the VENEER of sweetness and light away from it. This is a good thing, it may cause it to go away.
Well said Valerie!
Well said! A minefield covered in beautiful flowers is still a minefield.
Your memory of the environment matches mine ’74 forward except you were in management?
I thought so much of LRH I figured it would be better at an advanced org producing OTs and in many ways it was. But it became more and more obvious when the truly nuts executives would show up on mission and use more force then needed to get a point across. Then they would get posted in our org and things fell apart and became hard to not see. My rights became privledges ~ like to take a day off with my kids or plan a 3 week leave the family could go on together when 2 of my 4 children were also on SO staff.
So glad I was kicked out by ’96 and my 20 years were spent mostly with very caring crew at AOLA. Management CLO WUS, CMO PAC, FB I worked with daily as an FBO we’re displaying various degrees of physical and mental problems (not that I wasn’t by then LOL).
Thanx for sharing your insight Valerie!
Another excellent post Regraded Being. You really portray Scientology.
Heh – I had so many wins over the past week – I am still playing Billboard Wars:
Then….Scientology, the modern Science of Mental Health
Now…. Scientology, the modern CAUSE of Mental Health
*****************************************************************
Then….Scientology – Communication is the universal solvent
Now….Scientology – Communication is a suppressive act
Good ones! ☺
Ahh, the imaginary ‘good old days’. Postulates aside, were the old days any better? Yeah, on very odd occasions someone may have acted nicely, but how often did that really happen?
It was all about the money in the ‘good old days’ too.
“Then” and “now” might more properly be be “Yeasterday” and “Today”, or “Morning” and “Afternoon”, as bipolar is that organization (Really: DISorganization).
Back then the really bad stuff (Guardian’s Office and Sea Org) was compartamentalized.
Missions and Class 4 orgs saw little of that at general staff and public level.
Today, the crap is put in a blender and spread through even the smallest segment of $cn.
RB dude, I was there then. No hyperbole in your latest post. However there was a lot of unofficial family disconnection going on in the late 60s. We all did try to apply “communication is the universal solvent”.
OH my, exactly how it was back in the day. And how naive and stupid we all were thinking we were going to change the world and how great scient. was and yeah, meanwhile back at the GO offices…
…or on the Apollo when there were children in chain lockers and people being thrown overboard, sometimes bound.
Perfectly represented. If you need help to see how deep down they went, look even just 10 years ago compare to today, and bingo. You got it taped: $$ientology going fastly down the ditch. World diffeeence.
Witness the soul-dead and the spiritually pillaged
In the fastest vanishing Potemkin Village
Sad. And True!
Wasn’t disconnection always part of the policy?
Disconnection was always policy, but another policy letter says something like “this policy applies mainly to people who are pressing in from the outside”. The Ethics Officer had a lot of leeway about how to apply disconnection. It was considered a last resort after all other avenues have been exhausted.
Nowadays they don’t even bother to issue a goldenrod issue. The word goes out on Facebook that somebody is “off” and everybody unfriends them out of fear that they will get caught consorting with the enemy.
Disconnection is being used as a weapon to stop the bleeding, but they can’t see how it is just making things worse. Maybe some will pretend to go along just to keep their jobs or be able to see the grandkids, but in reality the threat of disconnection puts them on the road out.
Apparently, the EP of “The Golden Age Of Suppressing Parishioners and Staff” is zero Scientology. Readily observed by people on the outside. Not so apparent to a clubbed seal on the inside.
IMNHO, the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) Hie’s definitely succeeded in his chosen task.
IMNHO, the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) He’s definitely succeeding in his chosen tasks.
Sorry for the duplicated post; the first one didn’t seem to be accepted, so I clicked “post” a second time.
It’s OK Jere, they don’t show up to us for editing or as pending anymore ☺
You hit the nail on the head Jere Lull. “the EP of EACH of the “Golden age” evolutions was/is NO Scientology being studied or applied. For that DM deserves a VWD for his efforts toward KSW (Keeping scn Withering) He’s definitely succeeding in his chosen tasks.”
RB,
You said it all! Thanks.
Great juxtaposition of them and now. So true. Things appeared more benevolent for us members.
On the other hand, back then was Paulette Cooper. Tell Paulette Cooper the early days were more benevolent.
Critics were still criminals and destroying them still the instruction.
Every doctrine on how to harm people was written by Hubbard “then”.
Miscavige is simply applying them through the added filter of his personal sociopathic depravity “now”.
It’s all in writing.
“appeared”. yep.
Who told people to throw other people off a ship into the water. Who ordered a child locked in chain lockers. Who set up a team to infiltrate governments and steal documents?
The CO$ is as it was set-up to be. Create the rules of a narcissistic, paranoid, despotic group – don’t be amazed that it becomes what the creator set it up to be. Wee Davy was just the best at being the next narcissistic, paranoid, despotic leader.
Tubby took hisself S-o-o-o seriously! Anyone who questioned any of his edicts, OR knew someone who MIGHT similarly show independence, was an ENEMY to be ruthlessly attacked and destroyed by all means available. He certainly didn’t play it like a game which could be won or lost playfully. Given that mindset, the all-or-nothing “gradients” he actually used, of COURSE he became paranoid, honestly fearing THEY were really out to get him. AND with the number of his O/Ws, there were so many things he was guilty of
Yes and yessss. An enjoyable RB, in the spirit offered.. But not to be taken too broadly.
I was in headbands while holding out my sippy cup eagerly for my first Kool-Aid …. Amid the kumbaya love bombing we had the GO coming down and scooping the entire GI for the week, leaving us still broke and now STill Owing the management percentage for uplines.
The same GO were declaring our execs, and Snow White was about to be raided… Ron L. was just coming up to throwing his wife to the wolves.
..
They’re still trying to reel in Youthful Doers with little wins as bait for the Big Expensive Lies.. and it’s funny to see them try to appeal to these generations..
(Miss Lovely was a helluva book, eh? It was devastating to get the story of what the grown ups were doing while I was joyfully joining in bodyrouting all-hands.)
Hi Brian – great to see you again. Great comment as usual.
Hi Ms. P, nice to hear from you 🙂 Thank you ?
Sadly, RB, you nailed it.
LRH may have made mistakes but the decline really started when the Little One “assumed control”.
It seems to me the Miscavige’s assuming control, was just a symptom of Hubbard wanting all of Scientology to be run Sea Org style. I don’t think that the old man cared for the sort of hippie theetie-weetiness that was going on on the outer orgs, and especially the missions. According to what I’ve heard from some old timers, the orgs and even some of the missions had started to get more much hardcore before Miscavige even came on the scene.
The missions were starting to go off on tangents. Some that appeared to be successful. Missions were the backbone of the public division. When they got creamed Scientology began to rely on publicity instead of word of mouth.
Indeed. As I sometimes mention, some had become sort of little cults of their own, with their own particular dysfunctions and abuses. And some were indeed keeping two sets of books, perhaps in understandable response to Hubbard’s demands for cuts of the money – but they were.
If Miscavige hadn’t cracked down, I think it’s almost certain that Hubbard would have had someone else do it. And if no one had, the missions probably would really have started to go their own way, and for better or worse, Scientology would have disintegrated like other groups of its era, or been left as some small shell of itself like Eckankar.
Cough, sputter…further choking in a fit of disgust and disbelief…
El Con was an abusive, disgusting, narcisstic criminal who engineered the largest domestic espionage operation in US history, among other ” mistakes “. The veneer
may have been different in the early days, but the stink of cruelty, fraud, and abuse still emanated from the Tilden Turd and his shitty creations, dianutty and scientoology.
The only ” golden age ” in scientology was the time when its essential evil could operate more freely and covertly and suppress dissent and crush investigations with impunity and reckless savagery.
Of course, some old scientologists and ex-scientologists-not YOU, necessarily- still prefer to romanticize non-consensual hypnosis, indoctrination, bait-and-switch, and other forms of manipulation and personal degradation carried out in a highly controlled and isolated cult environment. It was ALWAYS fucked up and evil-by design.
You are spot on Mark Foster. Spot on! L Ron Hubbard was always evil and Scientology was always a scam.
it’s so tricky…
I understand what you mean….
One of the things that I struggle with is no longer “having any fond memories”.
I loved Scn, loved being staff, loved LRH, etc etc… and even during crazy hard times and injustice and so on, there was the deep seated belief in what I was doing. Looking back, I would mentally catalogue things as”war stories” …. so even things that were just HELL to live through, could be viewed favorably even as to just, “I survived it”.
But since I got in when I was a very young teen, my young time was all about scn.
The magnitude of the lies and what I gave up and lost is beyond description – but to wallow in that too much is the road to doom for me…
I don’t know how this ends up for me….
It’s still a work in progress… but mainly… I don’t look back with fondness and don’t go in for story telling anymore. Not just now…
I don’t know how to think about it or look at it yet.
…….
It was a complete waste of time and I threw my life away …but I loved it at the time…?
…..
It’s tricky.
“It was a complete waste of time and I threw my life away …but I loved it at the time…?”
Could easily be said about some overly long marriages I know of….
We humans are complicated, emotional creatures. Despite what Elron claimed, our minds and spirits can’t be scientifically dissected.
I hear you. The best I can come up with… we are veterans, but nobody really owns your tomorrow except you. That’s the way I try to keep a handle on things.
Is life complicated – hell yes! If it wasn’t for family, recreational pursuits & things like alcohol plus the mysterious desires concerning the opposite sex (no matter how many kicks in the head it provides) I wouldn’t be here tying away.
Look out fish – I just happen to like owning, using fishing tackle & developing new techniques. And look out Scientology & Scientologists, I just happen to be a veteran of your system – I know you better than you know yourselves, that’s the weird but honest thing about Scientology – only a veteran of it truly understands what it’s like.
I supported a scientologist as a non scientologist. His lack of empathy and care for me as a human being has really become evident. I really tried not to judge him. I liked him.
I am quite devasted and disillusioned and realise that what everyone was trying to tell me-stay away he is in scientology.
He has stopped communicating because we had minor issues with us to work out but they were major with Scientology. He is doing 0T7.
I met him purely by chance on a general dating site.
Very sad and I think not good he is on a dating site as he can target vulnerable woman and steer them towards scientology.
I was lucky our distance from each other stopped him pursuing me seriously.
My family and most of my friends have no idea we stayed communicating after the initial 3 months. It’s now 18 months.
I have sent mike in a email my story
I’m not at all sad about what happened in scientology in terms of it becoming more hard core in the missions and outer orgs. Had it remained a hippy dippy fun cult, I might have stayed in longer. As it was, it still took a long time for me to completely leave. I had heard the story about Paulette Cooper from a GO guy and thought it was just hyperbole. Was I ever wrong!! When Hubbard let his wife take the fall for Snow White, he lost whatever respect I had left for him. When our mission was dissolved and was replaced by an org, it wasn’t fun anymore. And when they started using monthly price increases to “encourage” people to pay for services “before prices go up next month” I just gave up. When it looked like I might have to disconnect from my best friend, that was it. I’m glad that the insanity spread from the sea org to the outer orgs. There were a lot of us who exited in the early 80s because of it.
Bull’s eye RB