I think Hubbard showed us his two sides here. He PRETENDED to be Jettero Heller, a perfect being of impeccable character and infallible intellect, miles above all lesser beings and irresistible to woman. A man who could out think out fight and out anything any other man.
Deep down Hubbard knew it was a fraud in another part of his mind. Robert Jay Lifton described in two superb interviews with Bill Moyers ( both available free online, one right after September 11th occurred and the other more recently) how a guru or cult leader can have a split or fractured mind that has parts dissociated so strongly that the guru can believe his lies in one part but with another know they are lies and know to hide evidence of this from his followers and law enforcement for example.
Hubbard was really Soltan Gris, the degenerate drug addict and rapist and coward and he hated it and despised the truth and despised the world that reminded him of this terrible truth.
I wrote on his condition in the post Scientology’s Parallel In Nature: Malignant Narcissism
MB, I think that “split mind” may also explain how Hubbard could talk about control mechanisms, but then go on to use them himself on his audience and followers, as discussed in a thread on the Scientology Mindset topic.
It’s a least a model that provides a way to understand one of the most baffling aspects of such leaders, and one of the ones that often fools people – such as how they can speak theoretically about freeing followers, and yet actually work to enslave them.
“Mission Earth” has some sick sexual stuff in it, like the poor SO member says. I was taken aback when I read it as a teen. My dad read it first, and because it was Hubbard, it was okay to read, but it’s pretty sick in parts. Curing lesbianism, indeed. Cognitive dissonance. I could see it in Dad’s face as he warned me about the sex stuff. It’s evidence of Hubbard becoming unhinged at the time he wrote it. His “tech” wasn’t written like this.
Loathe as I am to commend this monster, the fact that he embarked on writing a ten-volume book, let alone finished it, is an impressive feat.
What an absolute freaking horror fest. Thank God this never happened to me.
On a side note: Beneath that mask he wears Tom Cruise is a monster. Us women don’t want to have anything to do w him. “Don’t spread your legs for crazy.”
I thought of the last line of part 2 when I watched a Chris Shelton video in which he says they made Scientologists watch Battlefield Earth repeatedly. What kind of sick monsters would torture people like that? (Tongue in cheek. But only part.)
If you knew Xenu, like I know Xenu
Oh! Oh! Oh! What a guy
He called a muster
To form big clusters
Oh! Holy Moses, what unearthly bluster!
We got summoned, he sent us away
Down to Teegeeack
My BT was Dave!
If you knew Xenu, like I know Xenu
Oh! Oh! What a guy!
Same here. I’m a voracious sci-fi and fantasy reader, but LRH’s books are simply terrible. It’s not that he was a bad person — I read plenty of books by bad people, especially dead ones who can’t profit any more anyway. He was a bad writer.
I read Battlefield Earth when I was still on staff.
I thought it was quite a good read, on the level of a juvenile adventure story.
Innovative it was not! Ultimately I was disappointed that all Hubbard did here was retell “War of the Worlds” written almost a century earlier.
Some of Hubbard’s earlier fiction such as Final Blackout and Typewriter in the Sky were of much more original and enjoyable.
As for Mission Earth, I waded through the first volume and thought it was absolutely atrociously written, with cardboard characters and cliched story lines. I never made to through the rest of this series.
You can still find Battlefield Earth on the shelves in book stores. Mission Earth seems to have quietly disappeared.
Actual fact… I saw in Publisher’s Weekly sometime back in the day that Scientology Publications had remaindered 237,000+ copies of the Mission Earth books. I think PW regarded this as a very interesting curiosity, like the most copies of anything ever remaindered. When books were remaindered, it meant the publisher had no use for them any longer, so they went straight to be pulped.
I enjoyed the Battlefield Earth book. It’s basically a Gary Stu story. It was a shame the movie kept almost nothing of the book, but as it’s set up, you’d need a TV series to do it justice.
And the way Johnny figured out how the Psychlos control the secret of teleportation – and therefore their empire – was really clever (as was how the secret itself), and likely only possible in this specific scenario which is why it was never done before. I appreciated those ideas LRH came up with (yes, i’m talking about the self-wiping control panel of misdirection). I’m not running any science fiction type roleplaying games at the moment, but if i do in the future, i’ll probably incorporate it.
And last time i read it, i only noticed five places where the author inserted his opinions into the mouths of characters – a stone age villager isn’t going to have an opinion on taxation policy no matter how much knowledge is beamed into his head, for example. A little distracting but you can gloss over those.
I agree with the commenter who asked why none of the victims is suing Danny Masterson since the DA won’t follow up. I think that that is a good idea. And since money is no object in defending themselves, I think we should start a donation thing to get money to the victim or victims who sue Danny. That way we will have our own “IAS war chest” for lawsuits and it would make it easier for victims to sue. And once the truth about Danny Masterson gets out in the public eye, maybe that would put enough pressure on the DA to actually do something about it.
All i can say is I’m glad I didn’t read Mission Earth. Proof of Hubbard’s twisted mind. Lesbians, having orgasms because a hetero guy raped them? Wow. Starting this weekend am going off the grid and into the wilderness with family til the end of next week. This scientology watching is too much for me right now.
I said to my husband last night “I hate that this stuff makes me feel like this all these years later”. Wise man he is, he replied. “During those years, you were not allowed to feel, just consider yourself lucky that you are human and can feel now”.
I read a few paragraphs of ‘Battleship Earth’ that somebody put up on the internet. What I read was a lurid description of young male concubines on a space ship. The excerpt went on and on about this; not x-rated, but lurid nonetheless. A few paras was all I could take. So much for the great evil gasbag’s fiction.
Thats right Val, us that managed to excape really do better to remember how nice it is to feel all these feelings that life brings. Your husband is a smart man. Have fun!
*Ugh* that movie! They condensed the time down to a week or something, trying make it more exciting, but this made it so, so stupid. Primitive people fly F-16s in this movie. The F16s haven’t had any maintenance in a thousand years, but somehow they crank right up. And how are there any F16s? I guess there was no reason, like an alien invasion, that would cause pilots to fly them into combat, so they were left lying around. The primitives had like a week to learn how to fly them (or figure out how to fly them since I don’t think there was anyone there to train them)…into combat…against alien ships that our pilots of today were no match for…and their blasting alien ships out of the sky like Tom Cruise in…oh wait!
I must disagree with Sea bOrg lady number 2. The movie was very true to the book. That was its problem from the start to the finish. Be glad that so much was left out. The racist crap surrounding the recruitment of the humans to Johnie’s resistance group was brutal. The treatment of Africans and Asians was pure Klu Klux Klan shit.
There is enough material left from the book to do Battlefield Earth 2, Electric Bugaloo……Any movie studio willing to do that movie? I didn’t think so.
Barry Pepper and Forest Whitakre just cashed their checks and went on to other work. I have never heard anything from them about BE. I wonder what their honest opinion is?
Thanks Skyler! It wasn’t just me though. Two other awesome ladies joined me in this endeavor! We’ve laughingly dubbed ourselves as the #billboardbabes, and the LLC we created is SPs for change.
The support has been amazing and overwhelming. We didn’t think it would take off like it has.
I am overjoyed to hear the support was amazing and overwhelming. That must have given you a great deal of faith that you are on the right track in fighting this scam and that despite how long it may have taken, this nation has indeed become aroused and is now wanting to fight in order to shut down this horrible criminal scam.
I attribute much of this change in the psyche of this nation to Mary Kahn and her episode on Mike and Leah’s show about this scam. IMHO, that was truly one of the most powerful episodes – if not the most powerful of them all – and I will never forget Mary’s face as she lamented over her anquish at what the Rat did to her family with this “disconnection” policy. I await the day with baited breath when a judge sends him to the penitentiary for the rest of his miserable life for what he did to Mary and her family.
I am very proud of you Kat. I am also very proud of Mike and Leah and Mary Kahn. They all displayed magnificent courage in stepping forward and stepping into danger to tell their personal stories. If any one event becomes the major reason why this scam will be shut down, I would have to give credit to Mike and Leah and their show – especially Mary’s episode.
P.S. There are many others who likewise displayed such courage in coming forward to tell their stories. I don’t mean to omit anyone. So many people have been horribly damaged – financially, physically, emotionally and most greviously – their families have been torn apart by this “disconnectioni” policy. Please excuse me if I failed to mention everyone who was damaged by this evil, monstrous, criminal cult.
Skyler, you have failed to mention many who were damaged because only a teensy handful have spoken out. Many remain silent or even refuse to admit they were damaged.
You are quite correct. As you can see, I realized my omission and I did post a “P.S.” after I wrote my above post. There were indeed many other people and I regret it is just impossible to name them all. However, if I could pick just one episode, it would be the one featuring Valerie Haney. That was such an incredibly powerful episode. I cannot imagine anyone who ever saw that episode could ever possibly forget Val’s story – especially the way she hid in the trunk of some actor who was a “never in”. Remember that? It was an amazing episode.
A little while after that episode aired, we learned that Val Haney sued the bastards for a lot of money. I sure do hope she will make them pay millions on account of the abuse they heaped upon her. IMHO, she surely does deserve that. I wish her the very best of luck and I hope she gets all that she is entitled to.
Thanks, Kat,
Am trying to imagine what the proverbial RB couple in their car would say driving by this billboard.
Not easy anymore since my Scientology logic has taken a severe beating living in the real world.
I’m just glad you got out. Everyone who has shared their story is so much stronger than me. Everyone who has faced disconnection and the harassment from the cult is beyond brave and all kudos should rightly go to them- as well as to those who are still hurting and unable to share. This blog is just one of the places where people share stories, and my actions- as well as the actions of anyone who has worked to stop them are due to everyone who has had the courage to leave. Without you all, there would be no knowledge of the abuses. I am humbly thankful that you have all accepted the never ins who cannot possibly truly understand all that you have been through. The billboard is for all of you. I just wish I could do more.
I’d be interested to know just how many people that are trapped in this scam actually believe that some people really have OT powers that would enable them to escape a prison cell.
I don’t suppose they would ever ask why Mike would never have been able to escape when he was locked in The Hole. After all, he must have had OT powers if anyone ever had them.
Hello Cece. Thanks for your reply. Let me ask you something.
If an OT finds themselves locked up in a prison cell and they decide to escape by taking over someone else’s body (let’s suppose that may be a prison guard who is standing outside their cell), what happens to the person who was formerly occupying the prison guard’s body?
Do they have some kind of fight to determine who will control that body? If the OT person wins, what happens to the person who was previously occupying the body of the prison guard? Do they die? Or do they simply become immobilized until such time as the OT leaves that body?
I’m just asking out of curiosity more than anything else. I’d like to try to understand just how someone who believes this would decide the fate of the person who was previously occupying the body that was forcibly “taken over” and how anyone could believe such a thing made any sense.
LRH didn’t go that far.
I didn’t ask a lot of questions I suppose because it wasnt important at the time and LRH was probably dead by then. It was on the tape called Role of Earth ifrc.
I’ve yet to see a copy turn up online and the cult doesn’t publish it anymore of course.
Okay. So Hubbard hated psychiatrists and it really comes through in this work. Especially with the lesbians.
In volume four, Gris is kidnapped by two lesbians (one a femme, one a bull dyke, of course). Because they’ve been so screwed up by Earth psychology, they sexually torture Gris. He later escapes, then captures and rapes them both. They love the idea of normal sex so much that they invite all their lesbian friends over for Gris to deflower (because only a man can give a woman an orgasm).
This was my first ‘WTF did I just read’ moment. I was thirteen.
If I may be so bold, my tweet of today’s story. I want to provide people with the link to the Forever Young Adult review of the Mission Earth series and tag @4everYA with Mike’s story.
Fiction from the Founder of Scientology: Heterosexual rape of lesbians as reparative therapy.
Self-styled Renaissance man Deveytardo Del Dwarfsky was supposedly all over Battlefield. But it was worth it.with all those Osc eh Raspberry nominations.
Now Google trends show His “Ideal Movie Tek”on Scientology .org is again doing the impossible:
Spend $150.000.000 on a studio plus more on the production and hit 0 after 0 worldwide on the days the staff cannot watch. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=scientology%20tv
And didn’t he also have an Oscar made for himself, since he was so “blatantly ” overlooked by the Academy. How dare those wogs refuse to see his brilliance.
COB, doing theta things in a new eunuch of slime,because-damnit!-these CICS just don’t duplicate action and cause over MEST and the obliteration of entheta like he does! Let’s all line up to see a replay of “The War Is Over” speech and take notes on how a proper Operating Twat gets ‘er done!
Hip, hip, cosplay!
Someone with a brain could have made a movie out of it by editing out the whole psych theme and getting rid of the over the top White Hat, Black Hat characters. Rewrite as a straight invasion Earth type story. It would have to be 2 movies. Would probably take about 6 hours to edit the book material once read.
I will never understand why anyone thought they should make a film out of Battlefield Earth. The source material is bad enough already, it’s no wonder they made one of the worst films of all time out of it.
COB is going to be throwing a fit and demanding his intro video be reshot now!
And here more: “Marty Rathbun explains how Scientology leader David Miscavige micro-managed the film adaptation of L. Ron Hubbard’s sci-fi book and then threw John Travolta under the bus when it was deemed one of the biggest disasters in Hollywood history.”
I actually read the entire Mission Earth series.
I think Hubbard showed us his two sides here. He PRETENDED to be Jettero Heller, a perfect being of impeccable character and infallible intellect, miles above all lesser beings and irresistible to woman. A man who could out think out fight and out anything any other man.
Deep down Hubbard knew it was a fraud in another part of his mind. Robert Jay Lifton described in two superb interviews with Bill Moyers ( both available free online, one right after September 11th occurred and the other more recently) how a guru or cult leader can have a split or fractured mind that has parts dissociated so strongly that the guru can believe his lies in one part but with another know they are lies and know to hide evidence of this from his followers and law enforcement for example.
Hubbard was really Soltan Gris, the degenerate drug addict and rapist and coward and he hated it and despised the truth and despised the world that reminded him of this terrible truth.
I wrote on his condition in the post Scientology’s Parallel In Nature: Malignant Narcissism
http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/05/scientolgys-parallel-in-nature_3.html
Oh, what a surprise about Soltan Gris. I thought Soltan Gris was Danny Masterson in a former lifetime.
MB, I think that “split mind” may also explain how Hubbard could talk about control mechanisms, but then go on to use them himself on his audience and followers, as discussed in a thread on the Scientology Mindset topic.
It’s a least a model that provides a way to understand one of the most baffling aspects of such leaders, and one of the ones that often fools people – such as how they can speak theoretically about freeing followers, and yet actually work to enslave them.
“Mission Earth” has some sick sexual stuff in it, like the poor SO member says. I was taken aback when I read it as a teen. My dad read it first, and because it was Hubbard, it was okay to read, but it’s pretty sick in parts. Curing lesbianism, indeed. Cognitive dissonance. I could see it in Dad’s face as he warned me about the sex stuff. It’s evidence of Hubbard becoming unhinged at the time he wrote it. His “tech” wasn’t written like this.
Loathe as I am to commend this monster, the fact that he embarked on writing a ten-volume book, let alone finished it, is an impressive feat.
What an absolute freaking horror fest. Thank God this never happened to me.
On a side note: Beneath that mask he wears Tom Cruise is a monster. Us women don’t want to have anything to do w him. “Don’t spread your legs for crazy.”
On this topic: https://sfdebris.com/videos/films/battlefieldearth.php
I thought of the last line of part 2 when I watched a Chris Shelton video in which he says they made Scientologists watch Battlefield Earth repeatedly. What kind of sick monsters would torture people like that? (Tongue in cheek. But only part.)
If you knew Xenu, like I know Xenu
Oh! Oh! Oh! What a guy
He called a muster
To form big clusters
Oh! Holy Moses, what unearthly bluster!
We got summoned, he sent us away
Down to Teegeeack
My BT was Dave!
If you knew Xenu, like I know Xenu
Oh! Oh! What a guy!
I usually read SF. I avoid things written by LRH.
Same here. I’m a voracious sci-fi and fantasy reader, but LRH’s books are simply terrible. It’s not that he was a bad person — I read plenty of books by bad people, especially dead ones who can’t profit any more anyway. He was a bad writer.
I read Battlefield Earth when I was still on staff.
I thought it was quite a good read, on the level of a juvenile adventure story.
Innovative it was not! Ultimately I was disappointed that all Hubbard did here was retell “War of the Worlds” written almost a century earlier.
Some of Hubbard’s earlier fiction such as Final Blackout and Typewriter in the Sky were of much more original and enjoyable.
As for Mission Earth, I waded through the first volume and thought it was absolutely atrociously written, with cardboard characters and cliched story lines. I never made to through the rest of this series.
You can still find Battlefield Earth on the shelves in book stores. Mission Earth seems to have quietly disappeared.
Actual fact… I saw in Publisher’s Weekly sometime back in the day that Scientology Publications had remaindered 237,000+ copies of the Mission Earth books. I think PW regarded this as a very interesting curiosity, like the most copies of anything ever remaindered. When books were remaindered, it meant the publisher had no use for them any longer, so they went straight to be pulped.
I enjoyed the Battlefield Earth book. It’s basically a Gary Stu story. It was a shame the movie kept almost nothing of the book, but as it’s set up, you’d need a TV series to do it justice.
And the way Johnny figured out how the Psychlos control the secret of teleportation – and therefore their empire – was really clever (as was how the secret itself), and likely only possible in this specific scenario which is why it was never done before. I appreciated those ideas LRH came up with (yes, i’m talking about the self-wiping control panel of misdirection). I’m not running any science fiction type roleplaying games at the moment, but if i do in the future, i’ll probably incorporate it.
And last time i read it, i only noticed five places where the author inserted his opinions into the mouths of characters – a stone age villager isn’t going to have an opinion on taxation policy no matter how much knowledge is beamed into his head, for example. A little distracting but you can gloss over those.
I agree with the commenter who asked why none of the victims is suing Danny Masterson since the DA won’t follow up. I think that that is a good idea. And since money is no object in defending themselves, I think we should start a donation thing to get money to the victim or victims who sue Danny. That way we will have our own “IAS war chest” for lawsuits and it would make it easier for victims to sue. And once the truth about Danny Masterson gets out in the public eye, maybe that would put enough pressure on the DA to actually do something about it.
I would happily donate to this cause — many times and as much as I could per donation.
All i can say is I’m glad I didn’t read Mission Earth. Proof of Hubbard’s twisted mind. Lesbians, having orgasms because a hetero guy raped them? Wow. Starting this weekend am going off the grid and into the wilderness with family til the end of next week. This scientology watching is too much for me right now.
I said to my husband last night “I hate that this stuff makes me feel like this all these years later”. Wise man he is, he replied. “During those years, you were not allowed to feel, just consider yourself lucky that you are human and can feel now”.
I read a few paragraphs of ‘Battleship Earth’ that somebody put up on the internet. What I read was a lurid description of young male concubines on a space ship. The excerpt went on and on about this; not x-rated, but lurid nonetheless. A few paras was all I could take. So much for the great evil gasbag’s fiction.
Thats right Val, us that managed to excape really do better to remember how nice it is to feel all these feelings that life brings. Your husband is a smart man. Have fun!
*Ugh* that movie! They condensed the time down to a week or something, trying make it more exciting, but this made it so, so stupid. Primitive people fly F-16s in this movie. The F16s haven’t had any maintenance in a thousand years, but somehow they crank right up. And how are there any F16s? I guess there was no reason, like an alien invasion, that would cause pilots to fly them into combat, so they were left lying around. The primitives had like a week to learn how to fly them (or figure out how to fly them since I don’t think there was anyone there to train them)…into combat…against alien ships that our pilots of today were no match for…and their blasting alien ships out of the sky like Tom Cruise in…oh wait!
What about the Harriers hovering just before the attack? Looked like they had cavemen in them!
I love that! I’ll remind myself of that.
I must disagree with Sea bOrg lady number 2. The movie was very true to the book. That was its problem from the start to the finish. Be glad that so much was left out. The racist crap surrounding the recruitment of the humans to Johnie’s resistance group was brutal. The treatment of Africans and Asians was pure Klu Klux Klan shit.
There is enough material left from the book to do Battlefield Earth 2, Electric Bugaloo……Any movie studio willing to do that movie? I didn’t think so.
Barry Pepper and Forest Whitakre just cashed their checks and went on to other work. I have never heard anything from them about BE. I wonder what their honest opinion is?
The fruit of shame is the fruit of secret. The ones hiding themselves are ashamed keeping themselves out of peoples notice.
Off Topic but I just want to say:
Much respect to Kat La Rue for participating in that billboard that challenged the Rat.
Well done Kat!
I agree Skyler, we should have a special name for these never-ins that go to such lengths.
My daughter did 3 months of the Pacific Crest Trail. There were Trail Angels all the way bringing water, taking trash, giving rides and offering their showers. They even have a FB page where help is in mins. Makes me cry its so beautiful to watch. We should post her funding link
https://www.gofundme.com/f/sps-for-change?member=2297560&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_co_campmgmt_m
Thank you Cece. Good idea to post that funding link. I’m sure Kat would appreciate anyone who could offer her some support via that link.
Well done!
Thanks Cece!
Any money that comes in will now be donated straight to the Aftermath foundation.
Thanks Skyler! It wasn’t just me though. Two other awesome ladies joined me in this endeavor! We’ve laughingly dubbed ourselves as the #billboardbabes, and the LLC we created is SPs for change.
The support has been amazing and overwhelming. We didn’t think it would take off like it has.
I am overjoyed to hear the support was amazing and overwhelming. That must have given you a great deal of faith that you are on the right track in fighting this scam and that despite how long it may have taken, this nation has indeed become aroused and is now wanting to fight in order to shut down this horrible criminal scam.
I attribute much of this change in the psyche of this nation to Mary Kahn and her episode on Mike and Leah’s show about this scam. IMHO, that was truly one of the most powerful episodes – if not the most powerful of them all – and I will never forget Mary’s face as she lamented over her anquish at what the Rat did to her family with this “disconnection” policy. I await the day with baited breath when a judge sends him to the penitentiary for the rest of his miserable life for what he did to Mary and her family.
I am very proud of you Kat. I am also very proud of Mike and Leah and Mary Kahn. They all displayed magnificent courage in stepping forward and stepping into danger to tell their personal stories. If any one event becomes the major reason why this scam will be shut down, I would have to give credit to Mike and Leah and their show – especially Mary’s episode.
P.S. There are many others who likewise displayed such courage in coming forward to tell their stories. I don’t mean to omit anyone. So many people have been horribly damaged – financially, physically, emotionally and most greviously – their families have been torn apart by this “disconnectioni” policy. Please excuse me if I failed to mention everyone who was damaged by this evil, monstrous, criminal cult.
Skyler, you have failed to mention many who were damaged because only a teensy handful have spoken out. Many remain silent or even refuse to admit they were damaged.
Hey Val,
You are quite correct. As you can see, I realized my omission and I did post a “P.S.” after I wrote my above post. There were indeed many other people and I regret it is just impossible to name them all. However, if I could pick just one episode, it would be the one featuring Valerie Haney. That was such an incredibly powerful episode. I cannot imagine anyone who ever saw that episode could ever possibly forget Val’s story – especially the way she hid in the trunk of some actor who was a “never in”. Remember that? It was an amazing episode.
A little while after that episode aired, we learned that Val Haney sued the bastards for a lot of money. I sure do hope she will make them pay millions on account of the abuse they heaped upon her. IMHO, she surely does deserve that. I wish her the very best of luck and I hope she gets all that she is entitled to.
You go Valerie!
Thanks, Kat,
Am trying to imagine what the proverbial RB couple in their car would say driving by this billboard.
Not easy anymore since my Scientology logic has taken a severe beating living in the real world.
I’m just glad you got out. Everyone who has shared their story is so much stronger than me. Everyone who has faced disconnection and the harassment from the cult is beyond brave and all kudos should rightly go to them- as well as to those who are still hurting and unable to share. This blog is just one of the places where people share stories, and my actions- as well as the actions of anyone who has worked to stop them are due to everyone who has had the courage to leave. Without you all, there would be no knowledge of the abuses. I am humbly thankful that you have all accepted the never ins who cannot possibly truly understand all that you have been through. The billboard is for all of you. I just wish I could do more.
Thanks Kat
He used his OT powers to escape?
I’d be interested to know just how many people that are trapped in this scam actually believe that some people really have OT powers that would enable them to escape a prison cell.
I don’t suppose they would ever ask why Mike would never have been able to escape when he was locked in The Hole. After all, he must have had OT powers if anyone ever had them.
OTs dont have to take their body.
They leave the body.’in pawn’ and go take over someone else’s.
Hello Cece. Thanks for your reply. Let me ask you something.
If an OT finds themselves locked up in a prison cell and they decide to escape by taking over someone else’s body (let’s suppose that may be a prison guard who is standing outside their cell), what happens to the person who was formerly occupying the prison guard’s body?
Do they have some kind of fight to determine who will control that body? If the OT person wins, what happens to the person who was previously occupying the body of the prison guard? Do they die? Or do they simply become immobilized until such time as the OT leaves that body?
I’m just asking out of curiosity more than anything else. I’d like to try to understand just how someone who believes this would decide the fate of the person who was previously occupying the body that was forcibly “taken over” and how anyone could believe such a thing made any sense.
LRH didn’t go that far.
I didn’t ask a lot of questions I suppose because it wasnt important at the time and LRH was probably dead by then. It was on the tape called Role of Earth ifrc.
I’ve yet to see a copy turn up online and the cult doesn’t publish it anymore of course.
He did talk about the scramble which ensues when two or more thetans are trying to take over a newborn. I imagine the scenario would be similar.
I think Battlefield Earth would have done better box office if it were a silent movie.
Indeed!
It also would have done better if it had been released as a radio program – by which I mean – no video.
Monty Python should have done it as a comedy. Geez Dave, do I have to do all your work for you?
In 2014, the website Forever Young Adult discussed Hubbard’s use of heterosexual rape of lesbians as reparative therapy in the Mission Earth series.
From the Creator of Scientology
http://foreveryoungadult.com/2014/10/02/from-the-creator-of-scientology/
* * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * *
Stop reading now, I beg you.
Okay. So Hubbard hated psychiatrists and it really comes through in this work. Especially with the lesbians.
In volume four, Gris is kidnapped by two lesbians (one a femme, one a bull dyke, of course). Because they’ve been so screwed up by Earth psychology, they sexually torture Gris. He later escapes, then captures and rapes them both. They love the idea of normal sex so much that they invite all their lesbian friends over for Gris to deflower (because only a man can give a woman an orgasm).
This was my first ‘WTF did I just read’ moment. I was thirteen.
* * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
If I may be so bold, my tweet of today’s story. I want to provide people with the link to the Forever Young Adult review of the Mission Earth series and tag @4everYA with Mike’s story.
Fiction from the Founder of Scientology: Heterosexual rape of lesbians as reparative therapy.
https://twitter.com/ISNOINews/status/1159829355666665473
/
In my younger years I was a voracious reader.
I literally read my way through the entire sci-fi catalog and made a good start on the general fiction of both my school library and local branch.
You ever seen a 13 year old volunteer at the library? That was me, because it gave me first shot at any new books.
I read Battlefield Earth twice.
Mission Earth was such crap I didn’t finish the first volume.
When I learned who the publisher was, it finally made sense to my why his keyboard vomit made it into print.
Self-styled Renaissance man Deveytardo Del Dwarfsky was supposedly all over Battlefield. But it was worth it.with all those Osc eh Raspberry nominations.
Now Google trends show His “Ideal Movie Tek”on Scientology .org is again doing the impossible:
Spend $150.000.000 on a studio plus more on the production and hit 0 after 0 worldwide on the days the staff cannot watch.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&q=scientology%20tv
And didn’t he also have an Oscar made for himself, since he was so “blatantly ” overlooked by the Academy. How dare those wogs refuse to see his brilliance.
COB, doing theta things in a new eunuch of slime,because-damnit!-these CICS just don’t duplicate action and cause over MEST and the obliteration of entheta like he does! Let’s all line up to see a replay of “The War Is Over” speech and take notes on how a proper Operating Twat gets ‘er done!
Hip, hip, cosplay!
Someone with a brain could have made a movie out of it by editing out the whole psych theme and getting rid of the over the top White Hat, Black Hat characters. Rewrite as a straight invasion Earth type story. It would have to be 2 movies. Would probably take about 6 hours to edit the book material once read.
I will never understand why anyone thought they should make a film out of Battlefield Earth. The source material is bad enough already, it’s no wonder they made one of the worst films of all time out of it.
COB is going to be throwing a fit and demanding his intro video be reshot now!
Rathbun (before he turned on other Scn critics): “Battlefield Earth was DM’s baby from the inception…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpMb51joJA
And here more: “Marty Rathbun explains how Scientology leader David Miscavige micro-managed the film adaptation of L. Ron Hubbard’s sci-fi book and then threw John Travolta under the bus when it was deemed one of the biggest disasters in Hollywood history.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDk8YvgNlw