Wow. RB hits the nail on the head again when he says Leah and Mikes show on Monday is what everyone in the org is not-ising. Not-isng has been practiced by scions since the early 70’s. Even back then we all knew certain gossip was true, the stats were false, the events were never any fun, the money pressure was suppressive, and that we blew more people off lines than we kept with that pressure. After they blew we just called them out ethics, db’s or woggy. But then later we would all clap at staff meetings where we all agreed and gave success stories that we were an OT group, that we were the most ethical group on the planet! blah blah blah. Not is . Denial. Still makes me shudder.
“get rid of a channel”… . well, you CAN’T. It’d be removing a single frequency from the airwaves. Whatever YOU do at the receiving end, if they still broadcast on that frequency, it’s still ‘there’ and everyone can watch it even if bubble dwellers don’t — or SAY they don’t. The only way to ‘remove’ a channel is at the source transmission point, and Dwarfenführer ain’t got the stuff to “get ‘er done”.
I am patiently waiting for ONE PERSON…..O N E P E R S O N ……to step forward & CLAIM to have a NEW MEAT BODY……ONE PERSON…again just O N E P E R S O N……who can recall the past life they lived….WHAT there NAME WAS back then…..maybe even WHO their parents were back them….
Just HOW are these “new meat bodied” persons to CLAIM their “due-prepayments)” they made that are being held on account by COS for the course (lessons/bullcrap) they needed to take before they died
Seems like DECADES have passed by and no ONE PERSON……O N E P E R S O N…has come forward to claim their $$$$…….
ADD to THAT insult…coercing ELDERLY people to run up credit card bills….for “them” to apply for or take out credit cards in the name of an ELDERLY PERSON……so bills can be run up that the ELDERLY PERSON has to pay while all that money GOES WHERE……..YOU KNOW WHERE.
Nobody comes back. We all go to Heaven and float on clouds for the rest of eternity. After a thousand years of that I might get bored and pick a fight with someone to liven things up.
The universe is just energy, some of which transforms into mass. Some of this mass eventually becomes chemicals which inevitably creates life forms. When a life form has sufficient brain to body mass ratio the life form becomes self conscious.
There ya go – The Equation of Everything from the point of view of atheist scientific materialism which many people embrace.
Incorporeal (non embodied) conscious entities is a whole new category, to be sure!
I was a Saint-Hiller in the 60s in my last life. I met my father from this life there and we knew each other. I went Clear back then.
This is some grade-A delusion. I couldn’t remember my name or any salient details of the lifetime. On the Clear-Certainty Rundown, I said something that was in the ballpark of the Clear Cog (I was creating my reactive mind all along) and they declared me Clear. I didn’t know what I said. I didn’t qualify A’s cognition good on it.
I then did the Clear-Certainty Rundown course and when I read the bulletin on the Clear Cog, it didn’t register. The supervisor thought it was pure gold and enthusiastically explained it to me, a huge no-no in Scientology.
Boy, it made Dad happy when I told him, poor deluded cultist that he was.
I was viewing a TV Show about people who claim to have past lives….the study suggested that CHILDREN can recall “past lives” because they haven’t gotten to the point of becoming and adult where one “learns” that it’s NOT possible.
One kid recalled being a pilot during one of the World Wars (sorry can’t recall which one) and another having a life in another country & these kids could recall the names of their former spouses, child, what town they live in etc despite the fact they’d NEVER been there.
YET….there members are of COS…paying out all the $$$ hoping for THAT to happen….all that $$$$ held IN ACCOUNTS & IT HAS TO BE MILLIONS TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS that THEY will NEVER SEE OR BE ABLE TO USE……can’t recall anything about their “former lives”.
Back in the day, my friend, (NOT a Scientologist, never a Scientologist, no religion at all) told me that jer 4 year old daughter, Annie (not the child’s name) would, from time to time, mention a friend she “used to have”. This friend had a name that Annie would mention, an unusual, French female name which for the life of me I cannot now recall. I had them over for dinner and asked 4 year old Annie it. “Your mama told me about _____,”, I said. “You and she were good friends”. Annie nodded in a matter of fact way. “Where is she now?”, I asked. casually. Annie held my gaze for a moment and then turned away and looked down. “She’s gone”, she said, mildly. Make of that what you will. I have no idea and no axe to grind about it either.
Back around 1980 after an indeterminate number of hours of Dianetic auditing my co-auditor said, “Locate an incident of…whatever it was”. I looked for something and after a bit I burst out laughing and said,” Joe, it’s just a joke! There’s nothing there! ”
I don’t think the “clear cog” of I mocked it all up had been published back then but my origination probably would have squeeked by. At any rate they still gave me a Diantetic Clear certificate. I blew scientology soon after that because of the price increases so I didn’t explore the OT levels.
It’s worse than a Ponzi scheme. PONZI at least paid out “profits” to early ‘investors’ from late-comers’ payments. DM’s cult doesn’t benefit anyone but those at the top: him & his close cronies.
As big a mistake as having one of stooges telling Leah Remini: “You don’t have the funking rank” (to ask why Shelly wasn’t at the wedding). If he had half a brain, he would have made said that Shelly was sick, indesposed, on a mission, or similar b.s., gotten over him tantrum and released her from the hole in a couple of weeks. Instead, he started the ball rolling for his eventual downfall. Idiot!
Bix, Sea Org members have no brains. Nor do they have manners – unless they’re sucking up to one of their senior officers, or trying to get money out of someone, or to get someone to sign a staff contract, or something like that, in which case they’ll slather on the phony “ARC”. And Tommy Davis is/was from birth an arrogant, pampered, sheltered, uber rich Mommy’s boy ANYWAY who probably considered himself INFINITELY superior to the likes of Leah Remini even if he hadn’t been a high ranking Sea Org member. In fact, the LOWLIEST Sea Org member considers himself or herself infinitely superior to just about everyone on the planet except for those SO senior in rank and is told so continually. Truly, I found the Sea Org members I encountered, both young and old, to be with few exceptions insufferable people.
( Sorry, Mike and anyone else reading or posting here, no offense, you’re out now.)
Back then I didn’t know, had no clue, what this organization DOES to normal, decent people with sincere, altruistic needs and desires to HELP.
I just thought they were like this NATURALLY obnoxious which was WHY they joined the Sea Org in the first place. I thought that if they didn’t have this kind of personality they’d never join.
OF course, I was utterly wrong.
I had no idea how Sea Org members were being treated, conditioned, insulted and abused. I had no idea that frequently they were ill fed and sleep deprived. I thought they were just, male and female, arrogant pricks with an over-appreciation for their own limited talents. Consequently, in my ignorance, I did my best to avoid them whenever possible.
Totally correct, jere. I get a kick out of writing snarky things and then signing “Much love”. the ubiquitous complimentary close much favored by cult members no matter how obnoxious the comm.
OSD:
“You do know that Davy is a dwarf, right?”
Not really. 5’1″ isn’t a dwarf, just shorter than most women older than about 13 and FAR shorter than the average man; which explains the “short man syndrome” he demonstrates pretty regularly, … er-r-r … constantly.
More to the point, why did you first let Rinder go to England and then tell him in advance, that you were putting him on the RPF and to get h me so he could be RPFed. Future R-Factor made him blow and he is so lucky he did leave, as are we.
I wonder how many members know about sexual abuse cases – and are troubled by how they were handled? The sexual interrogation of young members in particular, as covered today over at Tony Ortega’s, is also really disturbing, though of course adults experience it as well.
Brilliant-again😂😂😂
” It took them long enough to realize that COB is a force not to be reckoned with.”
Ha ha ha ha!
Yeah, Captain Homunculus, may you continue to live in increasingly interesting times😎
“It’s what we’ve all been Not-Ising all week”. Now that made me chuckle. 😋 I‘ve never heard that term before. Does that means pretending it’s not happening?
MAC, You translated it right:”“It’s what we’ve all been Not-Ising all week”. Now that made me chuckle. 😋 I‘ve never heard that term before. Does that means pretending it’s not happening?”
That’s the most succinct definition I’ve ever heard.
Please DON’T hack the scn channel as I can’t receive it without DirecTV. BUT I CAN replay “Aftermath” on demand on my cable service(or watch the episodes I recorded on my DVR).
Otherwise, it’d be a pretty cool prank, though.
NOT that I’m suggesting or condoning such juvenile behavior.
Wonderful!!! I hoped that RB would soon tie in his posts to specifics. And, in this case, a lot of those who have any concerns or upsets, WILL tap into the broadcast. Especially those not on staff who have been constantly overregged! Wheeeeeeee! The toboggan is picking up speed. Can hardly wait to see how you and Leah effect your next strikes at scio.
rosemarie says
Wow. RB hits the nail on the head again when he says Leah and Mikes show on Monday is what everyone in the org is not-ising. Not-isng has been practiced by scions since the early 70’s. Even back then we all knew certain gossip was true, the stats were false, the events were never any fun, the money pressure was suppressive, and that we blew more people off lines than we kept with that pressure. After they blew we just called them out ethics, db’s or woggy. But then later we would all clap at staff meetings where we all agreed and gave success stories that we were an OT group, that we were the most ethical group on the planet! blah blah blah. Not is . Denial. Still makes me shudder.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
“get rid of a channel”… . well, you CAN’T. It’d be removing a single frequency from the airwaves. Whatever YOU do at the receiving end, if they still broadcast on that frequency, it’s still ‘there’ and everyone can watch it even if bubble dwellers don’t — or SAY they don’t. The only way to ‘remove’ a channel is at the source transmission point, and Dwarfenführer ain’t got the stuff to “get ‘er done”.
Imaberrated says
Those two are doomed. They’ll “accidentally” watch the Mon. episode and they’ll begin the long process of recovery.
Kyle says
The forbidden fruit is the sweetest.
Old Surfer Dude says
I ate forbidden fruit once. Turns out it really is FORBIDDEN! I’ve got sounds and BTs hounding me.
Scribe says
Double the amount and the problem will go away.
Old Surfer Dude says
Hmmmmmmm. I never thought of that.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
Kyle quoted:
“The forbidden fruit is the sweetest.”
Yeah, wasn’t she? BUT, they gotta watch for that next sec check.
Balletlady says
I am patiently waiting for ONE PERSON…..O N E P E R S O N ……to step forward & CLAIM to have a NEW MEAT BODY……ONE PERSON…again just O N E P E R S O N……who can recall the past life they lived….WHAT there NAME WAS back then…..maybe even WHO their parents were back them….
Just HOW are these “new meat bodied” persons to CLAIM their “due-prepayments)” they made that are being held on account by COS for the course (lessons/bullcrap) they needed to take before they died
Seems like DECADES have passed by and no ONE PERSON……O N E P E R S O N…has come forward to claim their $$$$…….
ADD to THAT insult…coercing ELDERLY people to run up credit card bills….for “them” to apply for or take out credit cards in the name of an ELDERLY PERSON……so bills can be run up that the ELDERLY PERSON has to pay while all that money GOES WHERE……..YOU KNOW WHERE.
I smell a PONZI Scheme….
Richard says
Nobody comes back. We all go to Heaven and float on clouds for the rest of eternity. After a thousand years of that I might get bored and pick a fight with someone to liven things up.
Richard says
The universe is just energy, some of which transforms into mass. Some of this mass eventually becomes chemicals which inevitably creates life forms. When a life form has sufficient brain to body mass ratio the life form becomes self conscious.
There ya go – The Equation of Everything from the point of view of atheist scientific materialism which many people embrace.
Incorporeal (non embodied) conscious entities is a whole new category, to be sure!
Balletlady says
Well…in my case….like most people ……I am not a “goody goody’….sooooo…..since I highly doubt I’d make it to “Heaven” …..I am covering ALL bases…..
I have packed a very LONG FORK……Marshmallows & of course “weenies” to roast in case I get hungry….
BTW…I can’t recall who it is that made the statement:
“When you get to Heaven you WILL be surprise by WHO you see there”.
“You will be MORE surprised by who you DO NOT see there”….
Imaberrated says
I was a Saint-Hiller in the 60s in my last life. I met my father from this life there and we knew each other. I went Clear back then.
This is some grade-A delusion. I couldn’t remember my name or any salient details of the lifetime. On the Clear-Certainty Rundown, I said something that was in the ballpark of the Clear Cog (I was creating my reactive mind all along) and they declared me Clear. I didn’t know what I said. I didn’t qualify A’s cognition good on it.
I then did the Clear-Certainty Rundown course and when I read the bulletin on the Clear Cog, it didn’t register. The supervisor thought it was pure gold and enthusiastically explained it to me, a huge no-no in Scientology.
Boy, it made Dad happy when I told him, poor deluded cultist that he was.
Balletlady says
I was viewing a TV Show about people who claim to have past lives….the study suggested that CHILDREN can recall “past lives” because they haven’t gotten to the point of becoming and adult where one “learns” that it’s NOT possible.
One kid recalled being a pilot during one of the World Wars (sorry can’t recall which one) and another having a life in another country & these kids could recall the names of their former spouses, child, what town they live in etc despite the fact they’d NEVER been there.
YET….there members are of COS…paying out all the $$$ hoping for THAT to happen….all that $$$$ held IN ACCOUNTS & IT HAS TO BE MILLIONS TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS that THEY will NEVER SEE OR BE ABLE TO USE……can’t recall anything about their “former lives”.
So sad
Aquamarine says
Back in the day, my friend, (NOT a Scientologist, never a Scientologist, no religion at all) told me that jer 4 year old daughter, Annie (not the child’s name) would, from time to time, mention a friend she “used to have”. This friend had a name that Annie would mention, an unusual, French female name which for the life of me I cannot now recall. I had them over for dinner and asked 4 year old Annie it. “Your mama told me about _____,”, I said. “You and she were good friends”. Annie nodded in a matter of fact way. “Where is she now?”, I asked. casually. Annie held my gaze for a moment and then turned away and looked down. “She’s gone”, she said, mildly. Make of that what you will. I have no idea and no axe to grind about it either.
Richard says
Back around 1980 after an indeterminate number of hours of Dianetic auditing my co-auditor said, “Locate an incident of…whatever it was”. I looked for something and after a bit I burst out laughing and said,” Joe, it’s just a joke! There’s nothing there! ”
I don’t think the “clear cog” of I mocked it all up had been published back then but my origination probably would have squeeked by. At any rate they still gave me a Diantetic Clear certificate. I blew scientology soon after that because of the price increases so I didn’t explore the OT levels.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
It’s worse than a Ponzi scheme. PONZI at least paid out “profits” to early ‘investors’ from late-comers’ payments. DM’s cult doesn’t benefit anyone but those at the top: him & his close cronies.
Scribe says
Dave: Why the fuck did I ever let Rinder go to England?
Old Surfer Dude says
Biggest mistake ever! Dave, you really fucked up this time!
bixntram says
As big a mistake as having one of stooges telling Leah Remini: “You don’t have the funking rank” (to ask why Shelly wasn’t at the wedding). If he had half a brain, he would have made said that Shelly was sick, indesposed, on a mission, or similar b.s., gotten over him tantrum and released her from the hole in a couple of weeks. Instead, he started the ball rolling for his eventual downfall. Idiot!
Old Surfer Dude says
LOL!!!
Aquamarine says
Bix, Sea Org members have no brains. Nor do they have manners – unless they’re sucking up to one of their senior officers, or trying to get money out of someone, or to get someone to sign a staff contract, or something like that, in which case they’ll slather on the phony “ARC”. And Tommy Davis is/was from birth an arrogant, pampered, sheltered, uber rich Mommy’s boy ANYWAY who probably considered himself INFINITELY superior to the likes of Leah Remini even if he hadn’t been a high ranking Sea Org member. In fact, the LOWLIEST Sea Org member considers himself or herself infinitely superior to just about everyone on the planet except for those SO senior in rank and is told so continually. Truly, I found the Sea Org members I encountered, both young and old, to be with few exceptions insufferable people.
( Sorry, Mike and anyone else reading or posting here, no offense, you’re out now.)
Back then I didn’t know, had no clue, what this organization DOES to normal, decent people with sincere, altruistic needs and desires to HELP.
I just thought they were like this NATURALLY obnoxious which was WHY they joined the Sea Org in the first place. I thought that if they didn’t have this kind of personality they’d never join.
OF course, I was utterly wrong.
I had no idea how Sea Org members were being treated, conditioned, insulted and abused. I had no idea that frequently they were ill fed and sleep deprived. I thought they were just, male and female, arrogant pricks with an over-appreciation for their own limited talents. Consequently, in my ignorance, I did my best to avoid them whenever possible.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
Aqua:
“( Sorry, Mike and anyone else reading or posting here, no offense, you’re out now.)”
No problem, Aqua. We all need to vent from time to time.
Of course the Munchkin® takes that to the furthest extremes possible, AND constantly enough that it can’t be blown off as mere venting.
Aquamarine says
Ever ever ever ever EVER!
Wow, Dwarf!
Did you blow it, or what?
Much love,
Aqua
Old Surfer Dude says
‘Did you blow it or what?’. I’m not going to answer any questions.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
“Wow, Dwarf!
Did you blow it, or what?
Much love,
Aqua”
Am I correctly detecting a flood of sarcasm dripping off of that comment, Aqua?
Aquamarine says
Totally correct, jere. I get a kick out of writing snarky things and then signing “Much love”. the ubiquitous complimentary close much favored by cult members no matter how obnoxious the comm.
Trabbitt07 says
Dave did fuck up, big time! He has no one to blame but himself. He made the decision. Now he’s paying the consequences. Let’s watch it unfold……..lol.
Old Surfer Dude says
You do know that Davy is a dwarf, right?
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
OSD:
“You do know that Davy is a dwarf, right?”
Not really. 5’1″ isn’t a dwarf, just shorter than most women older than about 13 and FAR shorter than the average man; which explains the “short man syndrome” he demonstrates pretty regularly, … er-r-r … constantly.
Balletlady says
Hey, wait a minute Jere….
I AM ONE of those 5′ 1′”er’s….since 14 or so…….I am “not short”….I am PETITE !!!!
I would still go one on one with him….anytime, anyplace…..we BROOKLYN, NY girls know how to handle guys like this…..just say’…..
Aquamarine says
You and Leah Remini; don’t mess with Brooklyn!
Cindy says
More to the point, why did you first let Rinder go to England and then tell him in advance, that you were putting him on the RPF and to get h me so he could be RPFed. Future R-Factor made him blow and he is so lucky he did leave, as are we.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
Dave: “Why the fuck did I ORDER Rinder to Britain?”
POOR MUNCHKIN®! Seems every action he takes comes back to bite him. And he’ll never learn.
Chris Shugart says
That last panel made me say to myself, “ruh-rho!” And I’m thinking that there are a few still-ins starting to think the same thing.
Old Surfer Dude says
Chris, I feel the same as you. I’m hoping these people wake up and start living the life they deserve! That would be wonderful!
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
OSD, I’m hoping the “Kid” soon wakes up to living the life HE deserves. Wouldn’t THAT be wonderful? I’m betting “Bubba” would be overjoyed.
PeaceMaker says
I wonder how many members know about sexual abuse cases – and are troubled by how they were handled? The sexual interrogation of young members in particular, as covered today over at Tony Ortega’s, is also really disturbing, though of course adults experience it as well.
Kyle says
Someone is getting reamed as we speak for losing control of those files.
Old Surfer Dude says
Shit happens!!! Old Surfer Dude
Scribe says
Shit’s happened!
Old Surfer Dude says
Shit is happening now! Hey, it happens.
Imaberrated says
It’s pretty astonishing that they handed them out.
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
Kyle, IIRC, the terminal in question was Kathy True, long member of the GO/OSA.
Scribe says
Scientology disclaimer for final episode: “It’s all lies.”
Jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
The truth of scientology: “IT’S ALL LIES.”
otherles says
The Church of Scientology may qualify as the least ethical people on the the planet outside of the various Communist Parties.
Mark says
Brilliant-again😂😂😂
” It took them long enough to realize that COB is a force not to be reckoned with.”
Ha ha ha ha!
Yeah, Captain Homunculus, may you continue to live in increasingly interesting times😎
Old Surfer Dude says
Little Davy boy tends to hide quite a bit. Someday they’re going to find him. If he goes to jail, I hope Bubba is there to greet him.
Overun in California says
No, he’s a “farce, TO be reckoned with”.
Xenu's Son says
Muslim suicide bombers also call themselves the most ethical people on the planet.
Kyle says
But not for long.
Old Surfer Dude says
Well…let’s hope so.
Mac says
“It’s what we’ve all been Not-Ising all week”. Now that made me chuckle. 😋 I‘ve never heard that term before. Does that means pretending it’s not happening?
Keep up the great work, Mike!
Imaberrated says
Essentially, yes. The reverse, to “as-is” is to confront and see something as it is. To “not-is” means to avoid direct observation of something.
That line made me LOL!
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
MAC, You translated it right:”“It’s what we’ve all been Not-Ising all week”. Now that made me chuckle. 😋 I‘ve never heard that term before. Does that means pretending it’s not happening?”
That’s the most succinct definition I’ve ever heard.
Wynski says
Would be great if someone hacked scamology TV and put the A&E episodes on it.
Scribe says
Please do!
Old Surfer Dude says
Now that’s a great idea!!! Hot Damn!
jere lull ( 39 years recovering) says
Please DON’T hack the scn channel as I can’t receive it without DirecTV. BUT I CAN replay “Aftermath” on demand on my cable service(or watch the episodes I recorded on my DVR).
Otherwise, it’d be a pretty cool prank, though.
NOT that I’m suggesting or condoning such juvenile behavior.
Glenn says
Ooooo, now THAT would DEFINITELY something worth donating towards!!!
Skyler says
If anyone could make it happen, it would be Kat Woman who would be the one.
She is my hero!
To be clear, I mean Kat LaRue.
Peter says
Wonderful!!! I hoped that RB would soon tie in his posts to specifics. And, in this case, a lot of those who have any concerns or upsets, WILL tap into the broadcast. Especially those not on staff who have been constantly overregged! Wheeeeeeee! The toboggan is picking up speed. Can hardly wait to see how you and Leah effect your next strikes at scio.