LURKERS, a/k/a UTRs: PLEASE run; get as far away as fast as you can. You’ll thank yourself later, particularly after you’ve realized how BOGUS are the “reasons” keeping you connected to that SP criminal organization masquerading as a church which is killing you— slowly or quickly, but with certainty.
Every once in a while, I think that the scio’s idea of putting everyone sick in “iso” might have beeb a not-so-bad idea: They’re not getting any work done, but they’re not spreading disease, either. Iso must have frosted quite a few seniors’ pants over the years.
Shereefe said:
“Wish I was a “flat Earth” believer. I could see the Earth as flat and picture the Freewinds going over the edge.”
Then you haven’t heard…. They now place Antarctica all around the “reachable” part of the disk to keep the water on the earth. Just beyond Antarctica is the crystal dome called the “Firmament” holding the air in place and all that water around the Firmament from flooding us — again You can’t sail over the edge of the world, in other words. AND you can’t go to Antarctica because … reasons. Flat Earthers are SO much fun to bull-bait. They can’t even tell when they’re being played for fools.
Yes, I remember several times during my SO career when flu viruses literally ended up sending the majority of crews (Int, ILO, PAC) into “Iso” (Isolation). It was ridiculous, and in large part due to the group ethic that you came on post no matter what. I remember another time when I had bronchitis so severe that I broke a rib coughing (and kept coughing for days) and still had to show up on post full time every day. Ridiculous and stupid.
Yessss! Ridiculous and STUPID. They not only don’t “believe in” the germ theory of disease, but flaunt it constantly. Goes with not understanding what science is or what it does.
The way people still-in co$ tend to downplay or ignore illness for fear of an ethics cycle, etc. like RB demonstrates above could really create an issue now with COVID19 (the novel coronavirus). It’s sad especially in the event it started to circulate at Flag or ASHO. There are so many older sea org members who may have underlying conditions but haven’t had the resource to find out could make the especially dangerous for that population. The only hope is that, similar to Measle-gate on Tne Freewinds, the concern for the PR implications will cause the mini-tyrant to follow “worthless wog rules” to avoid a PR flap. One can hope!
Abused/neglected children & Disconnection are the biggest issues I have with scientology as a whole, but the neglected seniors who are left with nothing and disregarded is a huge issue for me as well… people/families who’ve lost entire savings is also horrible. But endangering and taking advantage of children and elders is the worst.
One form of coronavirus is the “common” cold. This NEW variant, thus labeled “novel coronavirus” is a bit more virulent, but it seems it’s not going to cause the end of the world as long as we take the common precautions taken to minimize the annual “colds and flus” season. There’s no vaccine, … yet, but that won’t matter to the clams —who just clam up and burrow into the sand at times like this.
I just REALIZED! Probably the LAST population to survive an apocalypse are scns; their reaction to adverse news (entheta) is to plug their ears up and shut their eyes hard. In that position, they MIGHT be spared by predators which disdain “dead” prey, but nothing else.
Maybe Der Meister can call ex-scientologist Jim Humble back into the fold to add his form of quackery alongside the purif nonsense. After all, bleach works. But taken internally? They would do it if it is on the checksheets.
DM can find Jim over at Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS), or at his Genesis II Church of Health and Healing. Honest, I did not make this s**t up.
These people that are out there recommending drinking ‘bleach’ in the form of food grade hydrogen peroxide are dangerous…I saw a comment on a blog about COVID-19 where one of these nutters swore that colloidal silver and food grade hydrogen peroxide would cure anything. Sure ‘bleach’ kills 99.9% of virus and bacteria…on the surface of objects…it will kill you too if you drink it. It’s amazing that there are people out there that need that explained to them.
What’s sad and scary is that there are people out there with this thing that don’t trust modern medicine or practice ‘alternative’ medicine and they’re going to drink ‘bleach’ and colloidal silver thinking it’s magic and they’re going to give the virus to everyone that they come into contact with.
Linear, food grade H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) is NOT bleach; which is NaClO. People ingest food grade H2O2 all the time. Whether it is food grade is determined by its H2O dilution percentage. Many use it as a very effective mouth wash.
You should have continued your science education after age 12.
Peroxide and baking powder USED to be a recommended cheap “toothpaste”. I checked with my dentist the other week and he doesn’t recommend it as it’s a bit too strong for long-term use. Strangely enough, there’s a toothpaste WITH peroxide in it to help whiten your teeth. Guess what brand our family is NOT going to switch to?
This is so true it’s funny but not! You are NOT allowed to be sick even if you had a fever! You might get half day off but someone would show up your house to give you an assist so you could get back on your job pronto. In a way its kind of good you don’t feel the body has all the power over you but its just so full of lies and myths about disease just like RB says. Nothing is more important than now, now, now and make that money!!! ugh.
Rosemarie, It took every ounce of my bosses persuading me to NOT go to work :”sick”. After 30 or so years of that being the norm, I saw far fewer co-workers coming in sick and infecting others. Result: during “Flu season”, we’d occasionally have one or people out, but never 1/3rd of the staff hacking and wheezing while they TRIED to work. The last, enlightened, company I worked for gave us all LOTS of vacation/sick/”mental health” days which we were EXPECTED to use. Result: a happier, more productive workplace. ‘Twas TOUGH using up my 5 weeks’ “choice” time each year, but my wife and I got a lot of mini-vacations during summer & the rest of “Sailing Season”, and I snapped fewer co-workers’ heads off than I’d been doing (I was a lot less stressed, as was the rest of the company.)
I was on staff for over 6 years.
I only lost one day through sickness in that entire time when I was too ill to even get out of bed.
This was not because I was never ill but because there was zero tolerance for taking sick time.
This was an extremely crazy and destructive policy and no doubt spread a lot of illness, just like in the cartoon.
Same here. Sickness is not tolerated beyond some poor bastard being sent to the staff member’s home to do those ineffective assists. They couldn’t send an auditor—they couldn’t spare them, and there may have been one on staff. For many years Foundation didn’t have any auditors.
The org would vehemently fight an effort to quarantine people, as it would affect their stats. That’s a sickness in itself.
After I was sent off the Freewinds to die of AIDS I was audited by Jessica Feshback Rodriguez Davis. The point of the auditing was not to handle my condition but to get me to stop writing reports uplines because my wife was being held against her will.
Just before she finally got off the ship the COCMO ship told her ” Bill will be fine”.
What the CO meant by that was not that I would be alive, but that I was dying with the blessing of the Church; a martyr who’s death could be exploited to get others to give their lives and cash to the church.
Someday I would like to go back to the ship just to see the looks on their faces when they see me alive. The way things are going however, I will probably outlive most of them. A number of them were martyred for the cause already.
Bill, I HOPE you’re sending the fleecewinds crew annual christmas cards with pictures of you happy, healthy, doing something fun. At least the OSA or HCO guy doing the censoring of incoming “entheta” will get the message. What’s the appropriate quote? ” a long, happy, prosperous life is the best revenge.”? Just remind them you haven’t died and let them fill in how many OTHERS have since you were unceremoniously beached.
I worked a dozen years for one company, only taking one day off — for kidney stones. If you haven’t experienced them, a co-worker, a mother of twins, said kidney stones were ‘WAY worse than childbirth. Needless to say, THAT company did’t say “Stay home if you’re sick.” ‘Also ’twas not one which got the best out of its workers.
A frightfully realistic event! Not only the realism, but the likelihood, as in this particular event might occur several times over. Especially on the Freewinds, at Flag, and at Int Base.
Also, the sheer, tragic irony if this brought out the End Of Scientology; going out with not a bang, but a whimper…
Hey, Davey! Do you know for a fact that there actually are gloves and masks the are correctly your size? Because if there are not, those mis-sized safety devices are more harmful than nothing at all! My best advice? Quarantine yourself and your staff onto the Freewinds, circle around the Caribbean endlessly and not put into port for a year. Or more. Incommunicado would be safest, too.
James, the FleeceWinds’ circling the Caribbean endlessly sounds fun, but there’s no way they could do it. As it is, they can hardly afford to camp out at a Curacao dock full-time, and HOW could the new victims of VIII get TO the tub? There aren’t a LOT of them, but they DO need some place which has a proper international airport to get the clams from where they ARE to where the boat is docked to get aboard…. UNLESS they get their RPFers to line up to hold up a helipad so new victims can be drop-shipped (Almost like being drop-kicked) as the boat floats past. AND how could the tub hold provisions for such a long cruise? Even Rice & beans takes up SOME room.
And how would they get fuel enough? I doubt the “sea orgers” could pull off an at-sea rendezvous with a tanker, so they’d have to stop in SOME port to refuel. While there, they might as well exchange prisoners, take on comestibles, stretch their legs, and the like. That’s how Davey-boy could transfer to the captive SCUBA boat without getting his tiny custom-made shoes damp.
Leave it to a faith healing cult to come up with ‘medicious lumbosis’. And of course they have an imaginary cure for an imaginary ‘disease’. But it will cost you. That the real raison de d’etre of the Clampire.
Yo Dave,
Time to call up the largest private relief farce on earth good buddy. Ya know, You and yer crusaders are the ONLY thing and have the only tech around to handle this Medicosis Lumbosis shit Dave.
Time to drag out yer new Pee Tee Ess / Ess Pee course packs and hit the streets. The public will file into yer orgs in droves good buddy. Tell em all about it ………. only You have the cure.
MarcAnon said:
“LOL! You need to not-is that virus and keep earning!”
That’s the reverse of it; tou AS-is something to make it disappear. not-ising it makes it stick around, like they’ve done to the sexual assaults & other atrocities reported within the cult.
Scientology puts members under a state of undue influence.
Members who “train and audit” L Ron Hubbards stuff become robots in fear.
Scientology’s technology and policies make normal wogs afraid of their own shadow.
Scientology is the true merchants of chaos and fear using the technology and policies.
Scientology convinces members to be AFRAID to go to doctors, psychs and even dentists due to “I will get engrams if I receive even an aspirin”.
The actual beast to fear IS Scientology. Scientology kills. Just read about Lisa McPherson and a bunch of others who have died “doing and being” Scientologists. Scientology is a Dangerous cult that destroys lives. Lurkers, you better get out and do your own research about the cult you are involved in.
Out-Out,
You’re partially right. Fear IS scn’s primary control factor. Those “in” can have it used against them because they hoped that scn would deliver on the dreams they sell. For fear of losing the possibility of fulfilling those dreams, they’ll do nearly anything, even sell their soul to the Devil, Matey (DM … Weak! I know)
LURKERS, a/k/a UTRs: PLEASE run; get as far away as fast as you can. You’ll thank yourself later, particularly after you’ve realized how BOGUS are the “reasons” keeping you connected to that SP criminal organization masquerading as a church which is killing you— slowly or quickly, but with certainty.
Every once in a while, I think that the scio’s idea of putting everyone sick in “iso” might have beeb a not-so-bad idea: They’re not getting any work done, but they’re not spreading disease, either. Iso must have frosted quite a few seniors’ pants over the years.
As long as this week’s stats are up, the next billion years can take care of itself.
Wish I was a “flat Earth” believer. I could see the Earth as flat and picture the Freewinds going over the edge.
Shereefe said:
“Wish I was a “flat Earth” believer. I could see the Earth as flat and picture the Freewinds going over the edge.”
Then you haven’t heard…. They now place Antarctica all around the “reachable” part of the disk to keep the water on the earth. Just beyond Antarctica is the crystal dome called the “Firmament” holding the air in place and all that water around the Firmament from flooding us — again You can’t sail over the edge of the world, in other words. AND you can’t go to Antarctica because … reasons. Flat Earthers are SO much fun to bull-bait. They can’t even tell when they’re being played for fools.
Even “funner” to bull-bait are the creationists — who are often are also flat-Earthers. Neither group is as SAD as the anti-vaxxers.
Jere
It sound like you frequent some of the same YouTube debunking channels as I do. It can be good for a hearty laugh almost every day.
Yes, I remember several times during my SO career when flu viruses literally ended up sending the majority of crews (Int, ILO, PAC) into “Iso” (Isolation). It was ridiculous, and in large part due to the group ethic that you came on post no matter what. I remember another time when I had bronchitis so severe that I broke a rib coughing (and kept coughing for days) and still had to show up on post full time every day. Ridiculous and stupid.
Yessss! Ridiculous and STUPID. They not only don’t “believe in” the germ theory of disease, but flaunt it constantly. Goes with not understanding what science is or what it does.
The way people still-in co$ tend to downplay or ignore illness for fear of an ethics cycle, etc. like RB demonstrates above could really create an issue now with COVID19 (the novel coronavirus). It’s sad especially in the event it started to circulate at Flag or ASHO. There are so many older sea org members who may have underlying conditions but haven’t had the resource to find out could make the especially dangerous for that population. The only hope is that, similar to Measle-gate on Tne Freewinds, the concern for the PR implications will cause the mini-tyrant to follow “worthless wog rules” to avoid a PR flap. One can hope!
Abused/neglected children & Disconnection are the biggest issues I have with scientology as a whole, but the neglected seniors who are left with nothing and disregarded is a huge issue for me as well… people/families who’ve lost entire savings is also horrible. But endangering and taking advantage of children and elders is the worst.
Coronavirus= The Return of Klaatu…..
One form of coronavirus is the “common” cold. This NEW variant, thus labeled “novel coronavirus” is a bit more virulent, but it seems it’s not going to cause the end of the world as long as we take the common precautions taken to minimize the annual “colds and flus” season. There’s no vaccine, … yet, but that won’t matter to the clams —who just clam up and burrow into the sand at times like this.
I just REALIZED! Probably the LAST population to survive an apocalypse are scns; their reaction to adverse news (entheta) is to plug their ears up and shut their eyes hard. In that position, they MIGHT be spared by predators which disdain “dead” prey, but nothing else.
Maybe Der Meister can call ex-scientologist Jim Humble back into the fold to add his form of quackery alongside the purif nonsense. After all, bleach works. But taken internally? They would do it if it is on the checksheets.
DM can find Jim over at Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS), or at his Genesis II Church of Health and Healing. Honest, I did not make this s**t up.
These people that are out there recommending drinking ‘bleach’ in the form of food grade hydrogen peroxide are dangerous…I saw a comment on a blog about COVID-19 where one of these nutters swore that colloidal silver and food grade hydrogen peroxide would cure anything. Sure ‘bleach’ kills 99.9% of virus and bacteria…on the surface of objects…it will kill you too if you drink it. It’s amazing that there are people out there that need that explained to them.
What’s sad and scary is that there are people out there with this thing that don’t trust modern medicine or practice ‘alternative’ medicine and they’re going to drink ‘bleach’ and colloidal silver thinking it’s magic and they’re going to give the virus to everyone that they come into contact with.
Linear, food grade H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) is NOT bleach; which is NaClO. People ingest food grade H2O2 all the time. Whether it is food grade is determined by its H2O dilution percentage. Many use it as a very effective mouth wash.
You should have continued your science education after age 12.
Peroxide and baking powder USED to be a recommended cheap “toothpaste”. I checked with my dentist the other week and he doesn’t recommend it as it’s a bit too strong for long-term use. Strangely enough, there’s a toothpaste WITH peroxide in it to help whiten your teeth. Guess what brand our family is NOT going to switch to?
This is so true it’s funny but not! You are NOT allowed to be sick even if you had a fever! You might get half day off but someone would show up your house to give you an assist so you could get back on your job pronto. In a way its kind of good you don’t feel the body has all the power over you but its just so full of lies and myths about disease just like RB says. Nothing is more important than now, now, now and make that money!!! ugh.
Rosemarie, It took every ounce of my bosses persuading me to NOT go to work :”sick”. After 30 or so years of that being the norm, I saw far fewer co-workers coming in sick and infecting others. Result: during “Flu season”, we’d occasionally have one or people out, but never 1/3rd of the staff hacking and wheezing while they TRIED to work. The last, enlightened, company I worked for gave us all LOTS of vacation/sick/”mental health” days which we were EXPECTED to use. Result: a happier, more productive workplace. ‘Twas TOUGH using up my 5 weeks’ “choice” time each year, but my wife and I got a lot of mini-vacations during summer & the rest of “Sailing Season”, and I snapped fewer co-workers’ heads off than I’d been doing (I was a lot less stressed, as was the rest of the company.)
I was on staff for over 6 years.
I only lost one day through sickness in that entire time when I was too ill to even get out of bed.
This was not because I was never ill but because there was zero tolerance for taking sick time.
This was an extremely crazy and destructive policy and no doubt spread a lot of illness, just like in the cartoon.
Same here. Sickness is not tolerated beyond some poor bastard being sent to the staff member’s home to do those ineffective assists. They couldn’t send an auditor—they couldn’t spare them, and there may have been one on staff. For many years Foundation didn’t have any auditors.
The org would vehemently fight an effort to quarantine people, as it would affect their stats. That’s a sickness in itself.
After I was sent off the Freewinds to die of AIDS I was audited by Jessica Feshback Rodriguez Davis. The point of the auditing was not to handle my condition but to get me to stop writing reports uplines because my wife was being held against her will.
Just before she finally got off the ship the COCMO ship told her ” Bill will be fine”.
What the CO meant by that was not that I would be alive, but that I was dying with the blessing of the Church; a martyr who’s death could be exploited to get others to give their lives and cash to the church.
Someday I would like to go back to the ship just to see the looks on their faces when they see me alive. The way things are going however, I will probably outlive most of them. A number of them were martyred for the cause already.
Bill, I HOPE you’re sending the fleecewinds crew annual christmas cards with pictures of you happy, healthy, doing something fun. At least the OSA or HCO guy doing the censoring of incoming “entheta” will get the message. What’s the appropriate quote? ” a long, happy, prosperous life is the best revenge.”? Just remind them you haven’t died and let them fill in how many OTHERS have since you were unceremoniously beached.
Yup, what I suggested MIGHT be petty and mean-spirited, but it MIGHT give you some pleasure. And it might wake one clam up.
I worked a dozen years for one company, only taking one day off — for kidney stones. If you haven’t experienced them, a co-worker, a mother of twins, said kidney stones were ‘WAY worse than childbirth. Needless to say, THAT company did’t say “Stay home if you’re sick.” ‘Also ’twas not one which got the best out of its workers.
A frightfully realistic event! Not only the realism, but the likelihood, as in this particular event might occur several times over. Especially on the Freewinds, at Flag, and at Int Base.
Also, the sheer, tragic irony if this brought out the End Of Scientology; going out with not a bang, but a whimper…
Hey, Davey! Do you know for a fact that there actually are gloves and masks the are correctly your size? Because if there are not, those mis-sized safety devices are more harmful than nothing at all! My best advice? Quarantine yourself and your staff onto the Freewinds, circle around the Caribbean endlessly and not put into port for a year. Or more. Incommunicado would be safest, too.
perhaps scientology won’t go out with a whimper so much as a sniffle/wheeze.
James, the FleeceWinds’ circling the Caribbean endlessly sounds fun, but there’s no way they could do it. As it is, they can hardly afford to camp out at a Curacao dock full-time, and HOW could the new victims of VIII get TO the tub? There aren’t a LOT of them, but they DO need some place which has a proper international airport to get the clams from where they ARE to where the boat is docked to get aboard…. UNLESS they get their RPFers to line up to hold up a helipad so new victims can be drop-shipped (Almost like being drop-kicked) as the boat floats past. AND how could the tub hold provisions for such a long cruise? Even Rice & beans takes up SOME room.
And how would they get fuel enough? I doubt the “sea orgers” could pull off an at-sea rendezvous with a tanker, so they’d have to stop in SOME port to refuel. While there, they might as well exchange prisoners, take on comestibles, stretch their legs, and the like. That’s how Davey-boy could transfer to the captive SCUBA boat without getting his tiny custom-made shoes damp.
Leave it to a faith healing cult to come up with ‘medicious lumbosis’. And of course they have an imaginary cure for an imaginary ‘disease’. But it will cost you. That the real raison de d’etre of the Clampire.
Unlike an RPF-fearing RonBot in good standing I actually googled ‘medicious lumbosis’. No cure.
If only they’d self-isolate in the middle of the ocean.
Zee, it wouldn’t be the first – or the last- imaginary disease that scns were subjected to.
NOTHING in scn is real, when you get right down to it.
I wonder how many of these Scientologists believe that the coronavirus can be cured by doing auditing/the Purif…
Bilbo Baggins mused:
“I wonder how many of these Scientologists believe that the coronavirus can be cured by doing auditing/the Purif…”
ONLY the ones likely to succumb to it.
Yo Dave,
Time to call up the largest private relief farce on earth good buddy. Ya know, You and yer crusaders are the ONLY thing and have the only tech around to handle this Medicosis Lumbosis shit Dave.
Time to drag out yer new Pee Tee Ess / Ess Pee course packs and hit the streets. The public will file into yer orgs in droves good buddy. Tell em all about it ………. only You have the cure.
LOL! You need to not-is that virus and keep earning!
MarcAnon said:
“LOL! You need to not-is that virus and keep earning!”
That’s the reverse of it; tou AS-is something to make it disappear. not-ising it makes it stick around, like they’ve done to the sexual assaults & other atrocities reported within the cult.
Scientology puts members under a state of undue influence.
Members who “train and audit” L Ron Hubbards stuff become robots in fear.
Scientology’s technology and policies make normal wogs afraid of their own shadow.
Scientology is the true merchants of chaos and fear using the technology and policies.
Scientology convinces members to be AFRAID to go to doctors, psychs and even dentists due to “I will get engrams if I receive even an aspirin”.
The actual beast to fear IS Scientology. Scientology kills. Just read about Lisa McPherson and a bunch of others who have died “doing and being” Scientologists. Scientology is a Dangerous cult that destroys lives. Lurkers, you better get out and do your own research about the cult you are involved in.
Out-Out,
You’re partially right. Fear IS scn’s primary control factor. Those “in” can have it used against them because they hoped that scn would deliver on the dreams they sell. For fear of losing the possibility of fulfilling those dreams, they’ll do nearly anything, even sell their soul to the Devil, Matey (DM … Weak! I know)
Good one RB.
scientology staff math in action.
A+I=R
(Arrogance plus Ignorence is Roadkill.)