Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
I smoked Kools for a while when I was hanging out with Angie Trent (Knewitz). (Later she was the RTC Rep at FSO on the Lisa McPhereson cycle)
I did not like menthol either but I smoked them. Maybe there are people who smokes them because LRH did.
Good to know there may be others as dumb as I
With my mother captive as a Flag crew member, this is painful. The mother discussed here loves that stupid, stupid son. My mother wouldn’t do that for me. I got declared, and she’s following the policy. Mother’s Day has become hard for me. I use the day to honour the other mothers in my life.
These guys are so dumb. They hear things and don’t have the intelligence to really understand what is going on. I was like that at their age. That’s painful to realise too.
I suppose the only thing sadder than a son who would follow cult orders and disconnect from his mother would be a mother who would follow cult orders and disconnect from her son.
“Mother’s Day has become hard for me. I use the day to honour the other mothers in my life.”
How wrong of your mother to turn her back on you. What a misguided, lost soul she is.
How many women would give thanks every day to have raised a son with your integrity and strength; your compassion and common sense!
I’ve never smoked. However, my Mom had a three pack a day habit. Which gave me bladder cancer. This was all when I was a kid. The smoke was unbelievable in our home! That’s why my mom died early.
Funny, and disturbing, stuff. Anyone notice the Scientology Twitter account?
1. Only 100k followers, pretty sad… in a good way.
2. Most posts have 0 replies, 0. My guess is they have more but they are all negative, and immediately deleted.
3. I think the work Mike and Leah have done is working. Now if we can get the tax exemption undone they’ll really be in the crapper.
One or two OSA agents who pretend to be up to 10 different people.
A few dozen loyal diehard Scientology public.
The rest consist of over 98,000 of the best loyal Twitter followers that money can buy. Unfortunately these paid followers don’t comment and can’t like any Twitter posts. That costs extra, if these services are even available.
One way they control snarky or critical comments to their Twitter posts is to block accounts of those making such comments. Like the account of Weather Watcher, for example.
WW. I haven’t seen it. But you mean that they have just positive comments?
Quite unnatural to appear having no critics at all, but very hilarious.
They can’t stop stat pushing.
Pathetic.
“I hear the introspection rundown is a real killer.”
OUCH!!
That one single line was enough to get me chuckling, while simultaneously choking back a painful lump in my throat.
RIP Lisa McPherson…and of course all the countless others— whether named or still unknown and nameless— who have perished (or “merely” been irreparably injured) by that particular brand of cruel, malevolent torture.
Hubbard was, if nothing else, quite the genius innovator when it came to inventing (or “discovering”) novel methods of callous torture, as well as discovering numerous pernicious means of inducing otherwise compassionate, decent individuals to inflict brutal torment on others. Even more shockingly horrific is that those infected with Hubbard’s artificially-induced sadism exercised such torment not only on perceived “DBs” and enemies, but also on their own supposed peers, colleagues and even friends & family.
Geisterfahrer quipped:”“I hear the introspection rundown is a real killer.”
true, and it bears much repeating. It is probably the cruelest technique in scientology’s toolkit. If you’re not clinically depressed going into it, you will likely be, afterwards; positively suicidal, in fact.
Perfect satire.
Satire is difficult to do without falling into vulgarity or the grotesque.
The part of the SMP guy who gets restimulated after seeing the VMs with the disinfestation suits is brilliant. Laughing.
Congratulations RB.
So true! I have a teenager, and I’ve been trying recently to get across how to differentiate the (often extremely subtle and fuzzy) line between genuinely funny, subversive satire…and what’s just plain offensive bad taste.
For example: Mel Brooks & Quentin Tarantino are masters of brilliantly subversive satire, which actually pokes fun at the bigotry and ignorance of certain individuals & groups. While random YouTube videos of college students in blackface is simply tasteless, hurtful and not funny.
RB’s satire is consistently on point, and effectively skewers the ludicrous hilarity of SO & Co$ life…but always shows empathy, and never attacks the individuals, merely their beliefs and circumstances.
On the above note, I’ve got to mention that one of the things that first really struck me about the Co$ when I first encountered it almost 15 years ago was the apparent total lack of any genuine senses of humor, levity or the sort of insight which allows individuals to laugh at their own foibles.
Geisterfahrer. I know it very well. Teenagers have sometime a strange humour or even a dark one. But they are making experience and it won’t last. Don’t mind. Understanding satire requires intelligence as well culture.
Yes there is lack of self humor inside the cult. Actually one could even end in ethics lines.
They say communication is the universal solvent. But depends what you say you get stuck.
Personally I believe that the real ‘universal solvent’ is another: take it always easy and don’t let your mind to get stuck on things and making a story out of it.
In short : Don’t be too serious.
What! What!!! Hubbard was full of it! My God! He was my HERO! Now I’m lost. I don’t know if I can put the pieces back together again. Don’t wait for me because I’m gone.
Just a question to current scientologists and anyone else who would know:
(1) Is it true that lately a lot of orgs find that the Kool packs sup-
posedly reserved for Hubbard are empty? And that at most missions they
are usually opened? And that scientologists who run out of cigarettes
no longer take the Kool thing seriously, or any other part of the
“Ron’s office” thing?
(2) If so, how long has this been true?
(3) If so, is it a sign that the average Scientologist no longer really
thinks Lafayette ronald hubbard was any big deal?
(4) Are you allowed to go check?
sincerely
marion delgado
Life kills. To say “no” to life is to say “no” to “history of man”.
I have no evidence to prove the following. It is just my own conjecture.
But throughout history, every time the monetary system of a population is destroyed, the people find some alternative method with which they can engage in commerce.
In many situations, that means barter. In others, when the currency of a nation is no longer valued due to inflation or other kinds of corruption, the people use the currency of some other nation.
It would appear that just like prisons, the slaves in the scam compounds are now using cigarettes as a means of commerce to exchange goods and services with each other.
The one thing that I find most puzzling is how they can use menthol cigarettes when so many people absolutely can’t stand them.
I must admit this is a mystery to me. Would anyone care to guess?
Skyler I stopped smoking last Christmas. Okay. It was not not my case but I saw people going crazy when they finish sigarettes. Some could smoke cigarette butts others smoke anything would make smoke, etc. Just a bad habit.
Congrats on stopping smoking. That is a very wise decision and it will pay big benefits in your later years. Your family will also be very happy they will be spared the agony of seeing a loved one go through the horror of some of the diseases that are often linked with smoking.
You are BIGGER than your desire to smoke, Loosing! Sometimes a craving can come over you and you think you’re just going to DIE if you don’t have one. Just ride it out; drink a glass of water, walk around. It will pass and you’ll be stronger for when the next wave of craving comes. Resist each time and you will get stronger and stronger and then one day you really won’t want it anymore. I speak from experience. Started smoking at 15; quit at 35. Took 2 years of not smoking before it REALLY went out of my system and made me queasy to smell someone else’s smoke. But you’ll get there. One day at a time. Treat yourself real well while you’re mid process. You’ll be getting stronger every day. If you have a moment of weakness, and take a puff or two, don’t invalidate yourself and your gains because of a brief slip up. Just continue. You can do it. Your will power is greater than any craving. Plug into your will power, like its a light socket. You’re strong. Tell yourself that, because its true. Prove it to yourself, over and over. This is a process. You can do complete it. You’ll see.
Aqua! Thank you so much.
I stopped with the last sigarette before new year 2020. I was smoking rolling tobacco to slow down. I bought an electronic sigarette that helped. But the decision to stop was the key.
At the moment i have no attention or thoughts about. Even the smell is highly disturbing.
Smoki g is a “completed cycle”. Do well my friend.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
I smoked Kools for a while when I was hanging out with Angie Knewitz (Trent).)
(Later she was the RTC Rep at FSO on the Lisa McPhereson cycle)
I did not like menthol either but I smoked them. Maybe there are people who smokes them because LRH did.
Good to know there may be others as dumb as I
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
The Kool packs I’ve seen many years ago are already opened, probably so the Commodore does not have to open them. Then a staff member takes one, certain it will not be noticed. Then another and another.
I wonder what happens to them when in a sec-check it comes up that they robbed LRH of his smokes? Probably pretty gruesome. I’m glad I won’t live to see it. See, there are advantages to being dead already.
unelectedfloofgoofer says
I wonder if there is any talking at all in orgs, or if the only talking is orders, acknowledgements, and recordings.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
I smoked Kools for a while when I was hanging out with Angie Trent (Knewitz). (Later she was the RTC Rep at FSO on the Lisa McPhereson cycle)
I did not like menthol either but I smoked them. Maybe there are people who smokes them because LRH did.
Good to know there may be others as dumb as I
Imaberrated says
With my mother captive as a Flag crew member, this is painful. The mother discussed here loves that stupid, stupid son. My mother wouldn’t do that for me. I got declared, and she’s following the policy. Mother’s Day has become hard for me. I use the day to honour the other mothers in my life.
These guys are so dumb. They hear things and don’t have the intelligence to really understand what is going on. I was like that at their age. That’s painful to realise too.
aquamarine says
I’m so sorry, Imabberated.
I suppose the only thing sadder than a son who would follow cult orders and disconnect from his mother would be a mother who would follow cult orders and disconnect from her son.
“Mother’s Day has become hard for me. I use the day to honour the other mothers in my life.”
How wrong of your mother to turn her back on you. What a misguided, lost soul she is.
How many women would give thanks every day to have raised a son with your integrity and strength; your compassion and common sense!
I know I would.
Abby Ration says
So would I.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’ve never smoked. However, my Mom had a three pack a day habit. Which gave me bladder cancer. This was all when I was a kid. The smoke was unbelievable in our home! That’s why my mom died early.
Jimmy The C says
Funny, and disturbing, stuff. Anyone notice the Scientology Twitter account?
1. Only 100k followers, pretty sad… in a good way.
2. Most posts have 0 replies, 0. My guess is they have more but they are all negative, and immediately deleted.
3. I think the work Mike and Leah have done is working. Now if we can get the tax exemption undone they’ll really be in the crapper.
Weather Watcher says
Oh yes, the Scientology Twitter account.
It has 98,400 followers. They consist of:
One or two OSA agents who pretend to be up to 10 different people.
A few dozen loyal diehard Scientology public.
The rest consist of over 98,000 of the best loyal Twitter followers that money can buy. Unfortunately these paid followers don’t comment and can’t like any Twitter posts. That costs extra, if these services are even available.
Weather Watcher says
One way they control snarky or critical comments to their Twitter posts is to block accounts of those making such comments. Like the account of Weather Watcher, for example.
Loosing my Religion says
WW. I haven’t seen it. But you mean that they have just positive comments?
Quite unnatural to appear having no critics at all, but very hilarious.
They can’t stop stat pushing.
Pathetic.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
otherles quipped:”I have the cognition that Hubbard was full of it.
CONGRATS!
You now are CLEAR —of scientology.
Enjoy a happy, carefree rest-of-life.
Geisterfahrer says
“I hear the introspection rundown is a real killer.”
OUCH!!
That one single line was enough to get me chuckling, while simultaneously choking back a painful lump in my throat.
RIP Lisa McPherson…and of course all the countless others— whether named or still unknown and nameless— who have perished (or “merely” been irreparably injured) by that particular brand of cruel, malevolent torture.
Hubbard was, if nothing else, quite the genius innovator when it came to inventing (or “discovering”) novel methods of callous torture, as well as discovering numerous pernicious means of inducing otherwise compassionate, decent individuals to inflict brutal torment on others. Even more shockingly horrific is that those infected with Hubbard’s artificially-induced sadism exercised such torment not only on perceived “DBs” and enemies, but also on their own supposed peers, colleagues and even friends & family.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Geisterfahrer quipped:”“I hear the introspection rundown is a real killer.”
true, and it bears much repeating. It is probably the cruelest technique in scientology’s toolkit. If you’re not clinically depressed going into it, you will likely be, afterwards; positively suicidal, in fact.
Loosing my Religion says
Perfect satire.
Satire is difficult to do without falling into vulgarity or the grotesque.
The part of the SMP guy who gets restimulated after seeing the VMs with the disinfestation suits is brilliant. Laughing.
Congratulations RB.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
AND, “decontaminating” the parking lot! Fat lotta good that’ll do. Might knock down the population of mosquitoes, I suppose.
Geisterfahrer says
So true! I have a teenager, and I’ve been trying recently to get across how to differentiate the (often extremely subtle and fuzzy) line between genuinely funny, subversive satire…and what’s just plain offensive bad taste.
For example: Mel Brooks & Quentin Tarantino are masters of brilliantly subversive satire, which actually pokes fun at the bigotry and ignorance of certain individuals & groups. While random YouTube videos of college students in blackface is simply tasteless, hurtful and not funny.
RB’s satire is consistently on point, and effectively skewers the ludicrous hilarity of SO & Co$ life…but always shows empathy, and never attacks the individuals, merely their beliefs and circumstances.
On the above note, I’ve got to mention that one of the things that first really struck me about the Co$ when I first encountered it almost 15 years ago was the apparent total lack of any genuine senses of humor, levity or the sort of insight which allows individuals to laugh at their own foibles.
LoosingMyReligion says
Geisterfahrer. I know it very well. Teenagers have sometime a strange humour or even a dark one. But they are making experience and it won’t last. Don’t mind. Understanding satire requires intelligence as well culture.
Yes there is lack of self humor inside the cult. Actually one could even end in ethics lines.
They say communication is the universal solvent. But depends what you say you get stuck.
Personally I believe that the real ‘universal solvent’ is another: take it always easy and don’t let your mind to get stuck on things and making a story out of it.
In short : Don’t be too serious.
Do well!
otherles says
I have the cognition that Hubbard was full of it.
Old Surfer Dude says
What! What!!! Hubbard was full of it! My God! He was my HERO! Now I’m lost. I don’t know if I can put the pieces back together again. Don’t wait for me because I’m gone.
Alcoboy says
Ah, you’ll be back.
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m back!
john johnson says
snark at its finest.
Alcoboy says
Once again, RB, priceless! Absolutely priceless!
Oh, and I like the way you depict most of the Sea Org members as being high school age.
Roger Larsson says
Just a question to current scientologists and anyone else who would know:
(1) Is it true that lately a lot of orgs find that the Kool packs sup-
posedly reserved for Hubbard are empty? And that at most missions they
are usually opened? And that scientologists who run out of cigarettes
no longer take the Kool thing seriously, or any other part of the
“Ron’s office” thing?
(2) If so, how long has this been true?
(3) If so, is it a sign that the average Scientologist no longer really
thinks Lafayette ronald hubbard was any big deal?
(4) Are you allowed to go check?
sincerely
marion delgado
Life kills. To say “no” to life is to say “no” to “history of man”.
Skyler says
I have no evidence to prove the following. It is just my own conjecture.
But throughout history, every time the monetary system of a population is destroyed, the people find some alternative method with which they can engage in commerce.
In many situations, that means barter. In others, when the currency of a nation is no longer valued due to inflation or other kinds of corruption, the people use the currency of some other nation.
It would appear that just like prisons, the slaves in the scam compounds are now using cigarettes as a means of commerce to exchange goods and services with each other.
The one thing that I find most puzzling is how they can use menthol cigarettes when so many people absolutely can’t stand them.
I must admit this is a mystery to me. Would anyone care to guess?
Loosing My Religion says
Skyler I stopped smoking last Christmas. Okay. It was not not my case but I saw people going crazy when they finish sigarettes. Some could smoke cigarette butts others smoke anything would make smoke, etc. Just a bad habit.
Skyler says
Congrats on stopping smoking. That is a very wise decision and it will pay big benefits in your later years. Your family will also be very happy they will be spared the agony of seeing a loved one go through the horror of some of the diseases that are often linked with smoking.
Good for you!
LoosingMyReligion says
Thanks Skyler. Yes you are just right. My family did even a small party. Lol. Great feeling
Aquamarine says
You are BIGGER than your desire to smoke, Loosing! Sometimes a craving can come over you and you think you’re just going to DIE if you don’t have one. Just ride it out; drink a glass of water, walk around. It will pass and you’ll be stronger for when the next wave of craving comes. Resist each time and you will get stronger and stronger and then one day you really won’t want it anymore. I speak from experience. Started smoking at 15; quit at 35. Took 2 years of not smoking before it REALLY went out of my system and made me queasy to smell someone else’s smoke. But you’ll get there. One day at a time. Treat yourself real well while you’re mid process. You’ll be getting stronger every day. If you have a moment of weakness, and take a puff or two, don’t invalidate yourself and your gains because of a brief slip up. Just continue. You can do it. Your will power is greater than any craving. Plug into your will power, like its a light socket. You’re strong. Tell yourself that, because its true. Prove it to yourself, over and over. This is a process. You can do complete it. You’ll see.
LoosingMyReligion says
Aqua! Thank you so much.
I stopped with the last sigarette before new year 2020. I was smoking rolling tobacco to slow down. I bought an electronic sigarette that helped. But the decision to stop was the key.
At the moment i have no attention or thoughts about. Even the smell is highly disturbing.
Smoki g is a “completed cycle”. Do well my friend.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
I smoked Kools for a while when I was hanging out with Angie Knewitz (Trent).)
(Later she was the RTC Rep at FSO on the Lisa McPhereson cycle)
I did not like menthol either but I smoked them. Maybe there are people who smokes them because LRH did.
Good to know there may be others as dumb as I
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
The Kool packs I’ve seen many years ago are already opened, probably so the Commodore does not have to open them. Then a staff member takes one, certain it will not be noticed. Then another and another.
I wonder what happens to them when in a sec-check it comes up that they robbed LRH of his smokes? Probably pretty gruesome. I’m glad I won’t live to see it. See, there are advantages to being dead already.