The last course I took the regged insisted that I would pay for the next one immediately after writing “a win statement” about the last one, I refused, I said I will be back when am ready and when I have time, she called a second reg, and she third party me in front of the second regg, the second reg told me you agree that this is good for you right? I say well yes, but…. Pay then! she said with authority and hate in her eyes, this one didn’t have the spaced out look in her eyes, she look more like and evil mosquito with squinty little beady eyes Write that check! she said, I was totally confused and almost affraid, how some one that consider themselves to be so Ethical uses such a violent command to order me to pay, I was mad, I paid but I didn’t finish the course I was pissed.
Hi Ann – Speaking of defrocked apostates, I’ve carried my “Minister’s Certificate” around with misc. papers for all these years (30+). I dragged it out of a box in the attic last week and a friend of mine who is a good artist is going to red letter it CANCELLED-APOSTATE. I’ll frame it and it might look good out in the garage.
THANKS MIKE! When the HAS banged on my door at 11PM and told me we had a MANDATORY meeting at midnight, I started thinking that maybe the COS wasn’t really a sane organization. I went to the meeting but that was the last public meeting I went to. It’s the craziness that keeps people away. I love reading these stories of nuttiness. Keep posting.
Question: Do IAS regges who are SO members make commissions on the amounts they fleece? I know several non-SO regges have raked in big bucks doing this but I was wondering about the billion-year guys.
Very dark comedy today! They always show up in packs of course, so you feel outnumbered and therefore insecure from the get-go. I believe it’s known as “tag-teaming” or something in the sales jargon.
I still can’t get over that they show up to your house:
1) unannounced
2) uninvited; and
3) after 9 pm
Call me old-fashioned, but I would never do this nor would I expect my pastor or any parishioners to do this to me…,.unless it was an emergency or someone had died or was in desperate need of help…..even then, I would calll someone before coming over…
I love it when Tom Cruise lectures people about ‘getting their manners in’. Of course, I am guessing no one shows up at Cruise’s house at midnight asking for money.
Please….someone who has suffered through this, explain to me how you restrain yourself from calling the police or kicking them out….
These people rely on their victims being too polite to ask them to leave, but this really goes beyond the pale…..
Very funny, especially the ending! Yep, too real – the vulture culture at its worst. I think distribution of The Way to Happiness could have an effect in some communities, but unfortunately DM has dead-agented the name of LRH and Scientology for the general public, so if the connection is seen, the booklet will be tossed. And as others have pointed out, rushing in right after a tragic attack and telling people who have been murdered, not to murder, is nonsensical and the biggest wrong indication or “make wrong” one can give.
Thanks RB. This is an other truth that gradually makes us realize that the only thing they want. MONEY. But it is also what sooner or later pulls members away. Just in the last month I know of at least 10 OLD MEMBERS that are pulling out. Undercover Hiding, but also talking to others about it. Gradually those other also see this and more GO.
This stuff happens all the time. No one wants to answer their phones. You tell them not to call you at work but they do anyway. They sometimes show up at your work and you have to give everyone a bullshit story.
You get a new phone number, don’t tell them but they find out somehow.
They call during holidays, important events in your life or just show up at your house whatever time.
One time my in-laws were visited by some reg and after 5 hours of regging, my father-in-law called my husband because they wouldn’t take no for an answer.
M Greene, they CAN’T take no for an answer! I was at the Tustin Org in Orange County, CA. My auditor, Dave Petitt, kept pushing me to attest to Clear. But, for me at least, NOTHING had changed for me. And, I kept remembering the ORIGINAL definition of Clear: “A Clear is to a normal person, what a normal person is to the institutionally insane.” That’s quite the yawning gap, in my mind. I sat down with the ED, John Woodruff and told him how I felt. He didn’t like hearing what I had to say.
But, and this is a HUGE but, since I got out in ’82, I’ve moved several times here in the OC, so they were never, ever able to track me down.
Free at last, free at last, thank Xenu almighty, I’m free at last!
“what a normal person is to the institutionally insane.” just curious has there been any study’s on what the insane think of a normal person, and what is normal? I think that is just hot air from Hubbard right there.
Why even answer the door? I realize they may come to someone’s place of business (a whole other level of stalker-creepy-shit), and that’s harder to avoid. But why let them in the house?
Who was it, who said that scientology is such a wonderful thing, if it were not for the people who run it?
(I find it interesting that covert operations got into the on line spell checkers and made sure that the word Scientology is supposed to be capitalized, to give it in your face “significance” as if it were holy on par with God.)
Hi Dio, A great post. Thank you for noticing this. I was about to give my IPad beans and cold dogs, because it kept capitalizing Scientology when I told it not too. Now I know why. Enjoy your posts. Always, Ann.
I cannot say that this is funny at all. It really happened to me. And my ex was opening the door at midnight. She knew I always had to get up early. I was pissed for quite a while. And you know what? If you tell these fuckers that donating was no win, then there is something wrong with you. Have you ever read the wins from depleting your funds and giving up dreams? It is a sign that you lost a game and need justifications for it.
OMG, bfm! You don’t know that donations are the new case gain? You don’t need auditing or training at all! All you have to do is hand over every single dime you have and, PRESTO! You’re just received case gain! Ain’t it great?
I think I told this story on Tony’s blog but not with this detail. I’m still partners with and OT2 and OT5 (regrettably….working on separating business from OT2 once she finds out I’m a wannabe SP Meritorious In Command Intention..at least I fancy myself an honorable mention at least, lol, given how much I want to see this evil slime exposed for what it is). OT2 is about to go clear by end of year she claims. One day OT2 and I had a conversation that led to talking about how, despite my upcoming tennis book, I can’t live on my past laurels and just expect people to buy it because I was head pro at a fairly well known midwest tennis facilty and appeared on some famous videos with a renowned tennis coach. She is trying to get me to use the admin scale from LieIntology to set up a game plan as the book nears completion and we anticipate more donations for our non-profit (not a chance I will allow any money to go to WTH booklets as she has suggested). She gets a phone call during our weekly Wednesday tennis clinic as she normally does (and I know from experience who it is, stat day on Thursday is close, been with her enough Weds to see her answer and I’ve watched her phone ring off the hook from the Los Angeles exchange). She attends the Ventura mission on Eastman Av (moved third time to an industrial park out of the way, thank goodness).
I watch her grab her check book and donate a grand. We grab the tennis balls and she jumps in my car to our weekly lunch down the street. Phone rings barely five minutes later and I hear her say “I just gave you a donation, and then she tells me to get a table and order for her and she’ll join me in a few. She sits down fifteen minutes later (her food nearly cold) and I ask wryly what was that all about. She said she got a lesson that what’s in the past is in the past. She said it must have a been a sign that we were talking about resting on laurels because she just learned that to keep scientology working she must never look back and always focus on present time. She said she tried to tell them they had just called her five minutes earlier but they showed her how that didn’t matter. I had heard her state the grand over the phone but now I actually did peek to notice she wrote an additional 500 into her check book. Funny thing is as I dropped her off to her car the phone rang three more times and I peeked over once and could see it was the same L.A number that called earlier. I noticed she kept looking down knowing it was the “reg” and when I told her she could take that call, she said “I don’t have to take that, I’ll be on course in a few hours anyway.” I hope to get her to Tory Magoo before she starts OT3 after the first of the year.
Hi StudentOfLife, What an eye opening post! Yes way back when I signed that billion year paper, I was zapped and blinded by the light of Ron. It is very sad to see a person completely lose her own identity and continue giving $ to dm. But as we both know, in my case, something really traumatic needed to happen before the Dawn breaks. It happened with me and I hate that it was the way it was, but I still feel Ron,the tech etc were all signs of a mind hypnotist. I give Ron all his due on this point, he was one of those and very good at it.Always, Ann.
My spouse was never in. Accompanied me to the mission (Valley) and took a personality test. That’s it. The person that read the results accidentally handed the print out to my spouse which has all of the buzz words to press. We have that thing somewhere here.
Since then the calls happen over and over. Starting at 9pm. Tried to get them to stop but they will not. That one small mistake has turned into calls from lots of different orgs. Told them they were nut jobs, leave us alone, remove us…over and over and over. Each call the person tried to “handle” the ARCx. What a JOKE.
This year, ten years later, there was only 1 call.
Want to inflict lasting misery on an enemy? Send their contact info in to the church of scientology!
I understand how fruatrating it must be to get the endless calls! I wonder if they would continue to call if you started to read OT III to them every time they called.
Or read any of this blog to them…. Or shared any of the thousands of stories out there…
Of course you should start reading them OT 3! In a very loud voice, I might add.
I did that at the Pasadena Idle Morgue several years ago. Now, I didn’t tell them I was about to revel OT 3. I just starting talking about it. They didn’t make the connection right away, but, when they did they ran inside and closed the door. So I raised my voice so they could still hear me. Hey, I wanted to be polite….
Hi TOOT to OT, So very true your post. It all stinks but sometimes one has to fight fire with fire. I would have loved to have seen the tables turn on those GOers, now OSAers to see how they would like it! Always, Ann.
I hope you can help her too, SOL. BTW, I started playing when I was a kid and to got to play doubles with Rod Laver. One time a Indian Wells, near Palm Springs, Alex Olmeda (aka The Chief) asked me to be his doubles partner, but, I had come to take pictures and didn’t have clothes or equipment to play.
Mike, did you play tennis? We used to play a lot at INT in the La Quinta area (we had a court at W). It would have been fun if you were there then. Lots of doubles. A great distraction from the insanity of the SO.
Hi Mike, My post to OSD flew away. I was posting that my late rents were ski and tennis freaks.Had a court and private lessons but my instructors hated me because I hit the tennis ball like a baseball always out, I could never get my serve right and when playing net I would stand there with a dropped racket if the ball came to me. I was much better at badminton for some reason. Somewhere I have Rid Laver’s autograph. My Dad always took us to all the matches at the Longwood Tennis Club outside Boston. This would be the 60s and early 70s. Saw and met all the great ones, Laver, Ashe, Borg etc, loved watching them, but I was better at swimming, skiing and riding. Love, Ann.
Mike, he talked with me just like I was his friend. I still have a picture of him as I was a tournament tennis player myself. One picture his head was down so he told me to take another one. I’ve been to Australia for business. I fell in love with the country and the people. This was probably back in either ’80 or ’81.
Back in the glory days of genteel tennis — Fred Stolle, John Newcombe, Ken Rosewall etc. Australia dominated tennis back in those days. But The Rocket with his Popeye left arm was a national treasure…
I admired all the names you posted. But Australia had many great players into the 90s. I played 6 days a week. The only time I would not play was when the Los Angeles Lakers were on. The problem was, when I was on my game, I was a great guy! But, when my shots went haywire, I wasn’t. Tennis is a funny game. It brings both joy and anger. I had my share of both.
I’m going to scan and email you some pics from the 80s including Rocket Rod Laver.
BTW, did you stay in the U.S. (read Clearwater) to be close to your estranged family? When I was in Melbourne, I fell in love with that city. Australians are sports crazy, fit, and love to have a great time!
In the mid 70s I was back living in Hawai’i. My buddy and I hooked up with two Aussie surfers. We had a fantastic time surfing together. And, they told me Australia was trying to get people to immigrate down there. I still kick myself for not looking into that now that I know what Australia is like.
Hi OSD, My late rents were tennis and ski freaks. Had a court and private lessons and my tennis coaches all hated me because I repeatedly hit the tennis ball as a baseball, why I do not know, could never get my serve right and when playing net would completely drop my racket and stand there when the ball came at me.Somewhere is Laver’s autograph as my rents had us go to all the matches at the Longwood Tennis Club near Boston. Saw all the greats up to that time 60s and early 70s.I do like badminton because I can handle that. Love, Ann.Ha can you see us all playing tennis against still ins? A hoot! Love, Ann.
Over 50 now, I can still hang with almost anyone not in the top 200 in the world so my game is still pretty good if I can last long enough, lol. Tried to make the tour in late 70s but failed miserably due to bad coaching as the USA didn’t have a clue where the game was going (nor did England or Australia which explains the rankings in the 21st century). I am more known as a top amateur coach. It will be a tough one to help her. I am responsible for introducing her to LieIntology when I intro’d her to OT5 who was my full business partner at the time and scammed people for over a million by selling stock in his company which of course, the Scilons bankrupted as soon as they got his money for course work. We were all promised ten percent returns (he’s one of the few sports celebs in scilonland) and he used to live a lifestyle anyone would be envious of. Today he’s 76, broke and a kool-aid drinker of Hubbard to the 47th exponent. He doesn’t even know they have thrown him to the curb. They tell him he’s got overts and withholds which is why he didn’t continue to be wealthy. I want to get OT2 out. It’s a soap opera about to come to a conclusion as I have been threatened with SP except she can’t find it in her heart to disconnect as I’m her last remaining public close friend. She drove everyone else away. I just hang until I can’t anymore and that time is approaching in 2016.
Hi StudentOf Life, I really think the situation that you find yourself in is extremely tough.
I really am sorry for what you are going through. I am almost 65 and it can be a weird landscape at times.Here is my opinion. You post that you introduced this person to the OTs and she paid for a lot of auditing and training.Now it seems she cannot continue at the top of her game as she once was.That is the steel trap of this cult. That is why it is so very hard to escape.Love ? & thank you Ann.
Thank you RB.
Benefit from my experience is little free books won’t work
with this war. I’ve been in Combat with SEAL Team 3 and been
in the Kill Zone of things that went Ka Boom. So 14 people
in San Bernardino not so lucky, 21 wounded. If a little book would stop
someone who is bent on killing me because God says so, I would use it.
plan B is a 12 ga. pump , M 4 with extra mags, M 79 ( elephant gun / bloop tube)
a liberated AK 47 , and anything I could pickup on the field of battle.
Clams can’t function in the real world. They have to be in the safe arms of ‘theta’ and never hear a discouraging word.
Those fundraisers get 10% commission on their ‘sales’, that is why they do it. Note that the Albuquerque NM mOrg raised 6 thousand from 19 ‘donors’ at a recent ‘match game’ event. That evens out to 315 dollars from each ‘donor’. Not exactly straight up and vertical is it?
The late night visit from the regs for an ’emergency’ is typical of all scams. Scam the mark once and you try to keep the scam running. Nothing is easier than repeat ‘business’.
“On Oct. 22, Circuit Judge Thomas Minkoff denied the motion.”
He doesn’t seem to be a cult member, but is he related to the Dr. Minkoff who pronounced Lisa MacPherson?
Bravo ! Regraded being. That’s exactly the way it is. That ‘s how the straw that breaks the camel’s back comes by. Degraded being should be awarded a doctorate honoris causae on the sociology of Scientology. He really knows his subject like the palm of his hand.
As a never in, can someone explain what options a Scientologist has to stop the cold calls? What about a cease and desist letter followed up by harassment charges if they keep coming back? Does changing phone numbers help? I am asking these questions honestly, because I don’t know what works or doesn’t with a group that is determined to bulldoze over you at every opportunity.
Hi Lori S, I would surmise the technology of blocking phone calls has come quite a way since the early 80s. Back then with cold calls I would just hang up.But getting a cease and desist letter would not have worked for me because the Intelligence Guardian’s Office minders who liked me for breakfast, only followed the Law of Ron. I had blocked phone numbers for years and still got calls. So I kept on my path the best I could and eventually although it took years, left all that in the rear view mirror. Scientology is a shape shifting beast that always finds a way to get back at one. The trick is to block them out, before any more damage is done. For example years ago,I was going to tell my Sea Org story to one of the hot investigative reporters at the Boston Globe. I had met with him many times, had photos taken all that stuff and was ready to do it. Back then though the lawyers for the Globe killed th whole thing because cos threatened them if the story ran. It is through the efforts of the brave warriors like Mike, Marty, Tony and all others, we have come this far.I like your posts. Love, Ann.
Hi nomnom, It is good to meet you. I am bad and my Sea Org story is within Mike’s Blog since about Jan.2015, when his blog literally found me. I really must bite the bullet at some point and put the whole tale together in one place. Thank you, with your validation I just might give the whole project a go. However all posters here are so good, I love reading all. Suffice it to say I was not in like Mike and so many others born into Sea Org or joining when of age. My heroes all. So I was in SO at Asho F from 74-78. But long or short once that billion year contract is signed, hang on for a ride of your life that one has to jump off to get out.Always, Ann.
Hi gtsix, Do you know I carry a piece of your light in my heart? When I have to confront cancers, which believe me can be scary and boring at the same time, I see your light shine. Thank you for believing my story. I have had experience ( not here on this blog) with a few who got out and I was involved with during the Flynn court cases back in the 80s.I was told flat out that my story concerning GO operatives etc was not true because the GO would never do to me what I said they did do. Back then I just shut down for many many years and only talked about it all to my cat and dachshund. Then I literally stumbled onto Mike’s Blog and here we are.xxoo and all love straight back to you always. Ann.
They don’t have any options, if they want to remain in the Church. They give up any reliance on “wog” law and legal system, and agree to handle everything internally. It is like living under Sharia law in a Muslim area.
Sadly, quite true. San Bernardino County used to mostly agriculture. It was a beautiful place back in the 50s through the 70s. Then gangs started moving in. And, the majority of the residents are on some form of aid.
I was thinking about the terrorist party crashers this week. Most of my posts that push the envelope get sent to the recycle bin. How did you get your Poetic License? Must be all of that raw talent.
Well, I was a professional entertainer for many years. Never got a contract, though. I did: Acting, musical acting, stand-up, radio, TV and M/C. When I was doing stand-up, i made sure to push the envelope! Also, some of my posts have been sent to the recycle bin too. Hey, I’ve got to be me!
A cease and desist letter only works if you want to “lose your eternity” (leave the Church). The calls will stop when you walk away from scientology. Not a second sooner. If you tell them you are being harrassed, they ask you what your crimes are and what you are hiding from them, they turn it back on you.
The best way to handle them is to say No Thank you with high ARC. You can’t hesitate, flinch, look away, etc. If they persist you say it again and walk away or hang up. They hardly ever bother me any more.
For Scientologists , Scientology represent humanity’s only chance at spiritual “salvation”. They REALLY believe this ; it is not faked at all. They are indoctrinated, since the first service they do , that w/out Scientology this world doesn’t stand a chance , and that once we die we’ll go to an area called “In-Between life area” to be electronically implanted by “suppressive aliens” that will erase our past memory (putting in also, false purposes and recalls) , and will send us back to Earth to be reborn again , thus keeping humans trapped. The body is thought of by LRH, as only a trap to keep spirits debased and powerless.
The idea behind Scientology is to do some graduated steps , which consist in some sort of psychotherapy, to “increase” your spiritual awareness , making you realize that you are an immortal soul, and allegedly “rehabilitate” your ability to operate w/out the need of a body, thus ending the long death-rebirth cycle. This end product is call “Total Freedom” by LRH, the perfect pull-in button, as who in this world doesn’t seek spiritual salvation ?
LRH, VERY cleverly, invalidates thoroughout his writings every past mental and spiritual therapy that humans has ever practiced. He only validates Buddhism (only to some degree) as he allegedly is the reincarnation of Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. He also claimed to have been the Buddha himself. Every philosophy before Scientology was either faulty or booby-trapped , and thus not recommended.
He also, very cleverly, invalidated the Sciences as a method to discover truth. He did it with the subject of mathematics as well. Therefore, all that remained that was really “workable” was Scientology itself. Everything else was either wrong , imperfect, or a fraud. With that strong suggestion impressed in the minds of the Scientologists, they become robotized under the spell of an EXPERT hypnotist, and possibly one of the best that this century has ever seen.
Under that scenario as described above , resisting or having “Counter Intentions”, as they call it , with donating for the alleged “noble” and “humanitarian” purposes of Scientology , is considered being “Out-ethics” (Scientology’s term for “immoral”) , which is like blasphemy in Scientology. One is considered even as a “Suppressive Person” , as being against Scientology or its programs is the same as not caring about the future of humanity. A Scientologist even feel guilty and apologetic, sort of propitiative, when he doesn’t contribute to the cause by donating.
So stopping “Cold Calls” or visits during the middle of the night, is something not easy to do for a true believer. You got yo be able to think as a cult member does to be able to understand the cult phenomena. It rob us Free will and proper discernment of things. It rob us of the ability to think for ourselves as our trust is TOTALLY given to one single individual ; the cult leader. So, short of being deprogrammed from the cult, there is very little to do about those issues.
Theta Clear – Astounding! This is the best short summary of Scientology that I have ever seen. I hope that you keep it on file and post it as many times as possible.
Omg!
In my household, this story would continue along the lines of mass murder, including dead husband due to (wog-world) non-emergent 3AM spousal awakening, husbandly stupidity, and (perceived) persecution by religious idiots! And justified on the basis of defending life and property.
A cliff hanger in itself, as my natural reaction is to yell at the husband just like I yell at all the erstwhile ingenues of every horror movie I’ve seen. I’m dying to see what happens next!
I get the sense that Karen in our story is champing at the bit to personally launch those ghouls from her life, and might have severely chastised Jack if he had done the deed while she slept. In any case, we’ll see next week (I hope) what happens next.
I’d like to see Karen in the Octagon with the 3 cult members. Even though out numbered 3 to 1, she would tear them a new one! Twice. Maybe even 3 times….
I think its a great place to end it, leaves his wife’s reaction up to the imagination, which judging by her earlier comments and the time of night will not be pretty!
Straw. Meet camel’s back. Because the “donor” pool is so small, scientology does not have the luxury of doing as any legitimate charitable organization on the planet does: ask once, get a donation, if possible, move on .
If you continue to hit up the same people dozens (hundreds) of times a year, eventually the answer will be no. They will either be bled dry or wake up to the scam.
The lack of respect for personal boundaries exercised by scientologists was something I experienced first hand in 2011 when for a 6 month period they were attempting to “recover” me. Nothing could be said to stop the relentless calls, no time of day or night mattered nor did what you were doing. They absolutely force you to become an outspoken critic and vocal enemy before they will back off and give you back your personal space.
Very odd business model. (Especially for a business purporting to be a church).
Yeah but they hold the only key to your eternity Valerie. Certainly that counts for something. After all, they are only trying to help you help yourself! 🙂
Yeah, Val, sup wit dat? We’re talkin’ your ETERNITY here!! And there’s only one fucking key! And we all know who holds the magical key! And Coop is right, all were trying to do is to help you help yourself…gosh you’d think you’d be thankful or something….
MostEthicalPimp: As posted elsewhere, here’s how I finally got rid of them, please pass this on to your friend:
I don’t remember the exact date, but I think it was sometime in 2011, April, if I am correct when out of the blue, I received a message on my answering machine.
My husband of almost 5 years had never heard of scientology, I had been gone for close to 30 years and never told him about the “dark years” of my life. Some people tell me I’m lying that I hadn’t told him. Others have never told their spouses either. After I left for good, I did not mention scientology to anyone. I did my best to pretend it did not exist. All those years later, I’d done a pretty good job of forgetting it did. Then came the call.
This is the post I put on Mike’s blog today in response to someone else’s comment:
I know this will make no sense to someone who has never been there, but all the sense in the world to anyone who has ever left so I’m going to post it in response to your “I wonder if you realize how utterly evil is this organization” Here’s my response.
I hadn’t heard a peep from the organization since 1983. In 2011, there was a message on my answering machine, all cheery and “uptone” from the church of scientology asking me to call them (the first of hundreds in their attempt to “recover” me). My response to that message?
Abject terror. Anyone who has ever been a part of the organization understands that they are always in their crosshairs and even 30 years later Freaks. The. Hell. Out. if they find them. That is how utterly evil that organization is.
Period. The end.
I stupidly called Kendra Bogacz Witcher (sp) back and talked to her (she’s from WY) – she asked me to look at the scn website. Hey, I’ve been out awhile, I was curious what was going on. I was Shocked!!! that David Miscavige was still in, much less running. the. whole. damn. place. but somehow knew to keep my mouth shut.
She asked me to watch some video, I told her I didn’t have time, tax season and all – so yeah, it was April. and thought I’d brushed her off politely.
Riiiiiiight.
April 16, 8am she called again, then she called 3 more times that day then I blocked that number, so she mutated and called from unknown numbers so I quit answering her calls so she started leaving messages several times a day.
After a week and over 50 calls, I called back on a Sunday and told her to quit fu**ing stalking me and to leave me the F*&* alone. She obviously took that as a challenge.
Then the mail started arriving and arriving and arriving and arriving and . . .
I started marking the mail “RETURN TO STALKER” in red pen without opening it. Still got mail. Then I started printing out the Lisa McPherson story and enclosing color photos of her autopsy, using their return address envelopes to send it. The mail stopped abruptly, but the calls, ooh the calls, they would not slow down.
My husband meanwhile, got a crash course in scientology, who I was in scientology, why he didn’t know who I was, why I was scared of scientology and started worrying about Kendra and whether her life was in danger.
The funny part about the calls is
1. They didn’t know my married name, and I didn’t bother to let them know it;
2. They had no clue who I was, only knew my Clear No. They were just trying to get me to come in, get declared unclear buy some Basics and start at the bottom of the Bridge again. I was just another name with no data attached, they had no clue who I knew or even that I had been in SO, I asked.
3. They had the wrong address for me. Still do. The address they have is an amalgamation of two different addresses, one from when I lived in a different state and one partially correct, which is an address American Express messed up when I forwarded my mail 2 moves ago and since I had cancelled the card and mailed the last payment, I didn’t bother to correct it, it just made me aware of the people Amex sold their mailing list to. The mailman has known me for 20 years so knew where to find me. He offered to return the mail to sender Address unknown but I told him that would just tip them off so he kept delivering it, offering me a red pen to mark Return to Stalker on it so they knew it was me rejecting it. If you google earth the address they have it comes up with a strange result.
Anyway, as anyone who has been on the receiving end of the calls knows, they were relentless. Kendra gave up and several other people took her place over a 6-months period. I occasionally called someone back and told them I wanted nothing to do with them. As my niece puts it, I did not spew profanity, I stated it clearly and succinctly.
Then hundreds of calls later…at one point I kept track, but I have since thrown away the count, but more than 250 calls in 6 months so you get the idea Larry Jacobs called. For those of you not familiar with the name, shame on you. Go read “Blown For Good” right now.
I listened to the message and decided it was time to end it. By this time I was no longer afraid. I planned my attack, even emailed Marc Headley and asked him for dirt on Larry, then I called them.
I asked for Larry Jacobs. It took almost 5 minutes to get him on the phone. I asked him if he was recording the call. After a long pause he said no. I said “nice comm lag” then told him I was. I basically let him know I knew he was lying about the call not being recorded, he spewed some other lie. Blah blah blah.
We had a long conversation, actually quite civil. During the course of it, I asked him what he thought of David Miscavige. He quoted Tom Cruise’s Medal of Honor speech verbatim. I laughed and said “so they’re making you Chinese School Tom Cruise’s Medal of Valor Speech now?” He said “well it’s true”. I flatly said “I’ve met the man.”
I went on to tell him I knew he had once blown the Sea Org. He denied that he had, that he had just been on the RPF. I asked him why if he was on the RPF did they have to use his wife to recover him before she divorced him and why someone didn’t just run down and ask for his password to his laptop rather than hacking it. He didn’t know.
I told him that I wanted to be left alone, and what part of leave me the F alone did he not understand and what would it take to get that done. He went into a song and dance about if a PC leaves a session with an ARCX, you need to recover them and fix the ARCX. I said “thirty fuc**?g years later?” That’s a long ARCX. He was quiet.
I went on and let him know that his calls were costing me a lot of money because every time anyone from Scientology called I logged on and either donated anonymously to Tony, Marty Rathbun, the Headley legal fund or any other good anti-Scientology place I could find and with the several hundreds of calls they had made, that was quite a dent in my pocketbook.
He said “well it’s obvious you go on the Internet, so I’m going to blacklist you.” I laughed and told thank you. A few keystrokes later he told me it was done. I thanked him and hung up.
I’ve had various individuals trying to recover me as well, they don’t seem to realize that the biggest “win” of my scn career was getting out, I’ve never experienced such blessed relief. When the last individual tried it I ended up threatening to call the police as they wouldn’t leave, this seemed to do the trick and no one has been back since.
I remember when the Basics came out they sent staff and long term public out to try to recover wayward individuals, admittedly one or two did return to the fold but generally the reaction was either outright hostility or politely but firmly telling them to go away.
I simply yelled at the two women who knocked to stop bothering me and not come back. Didn’t let them get more than one or two words out before I slammed the door in their faces and was never bothered again.
I was in the middle of watching The Sopranos fer crissakes! (Gee, I hope they weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses.)
Hi OSD, I saw your post to civmar. I would imagine if he was interrupted watching The Sopranos by the likes of those two, well they had better have their track shoes on and even then my money is definitely on civmar kicking butt! Love, Ann.
After 21 years of this crap, I remember finally getting fed up with the calls, multiple mails (to multiple misspelled names), “good roads/fair weather” handwritten notes, and the like, and started going “up the chain of command” to find “The Guy” (or gal, but it was a guy) who could end this. I was determined. “Who do you report to?” I finally wound up talking to someone at the main LA org, whose exact title (and name) is lost to my old brain, but it was a man who was at the top of the chain as far as this went. I was firm, patient, but not angry. I assured him I held no ill will against Scientology, but that I wanted no further contact and that this was a waste of resources. All they were doing was clearing the planet…. of trees (an off-hand joke I heard someone make at a Scientology book event). He took down each of the misspelled names and address variations, as well as that of a blown Scientologist who still got mail after living in my home for six months despite having moved out 20 years earlier. He assured me that he was removing these entries as we were speaking. To my amazement… I haven’t gotten a single piece of mail or a phone call from any Scientologist. It’s over a decade now. So it is possible, but it takes persistence, patience and just the right “tone.”
I just told the caller to update the addresso to show that I’ve been declared and that she’d better brush up on her ethics as she’d now spoken to an SP.
Blessed silence ever since
What’s even more whacko about the church is that prior training and experience in auditing are actively rejected, no matter how good you were or the results you can get. In fact the better you are the more they are inclined to declare you. As a group they don’t want you to know how to use the technology, no matter what they say. Everyone must develop the same technical application and expertise as miscavige.
They truly aren’t interested in any other product except a donated cash figure. They don’t even bother to hide their true intent anymore. Status attainment, what a bs gimmick that is.
They also defy what a business is too… strangest damned creature that ever oozed out of the ether scientology – damn strange! Biggest rip off known to those who know how auditing is supposed to work. Nothing scares a scientologist more than someone who knows what they are talking about.
Scientologists know so little about their own subject it defies belief, they truly are stupid people!
And who is actually winning with scientology? Lawyers & security agents!
“Everyone must develop the same technical application and expertise as miscavige.” Yes. And of course Lisa McPherson’s case is the “ideal” that leads to.
I Yawn, I was a body router in Hawai’i at the so-called mission. I set records there. Most books (both hard & soft cover sold) as well as bring in massive amounts of people. More than anyone before and I’m sure after. What was my reward? A B of I. I left shortly after that.
You can’t be too good otherwise, you become target.
It’s exactly how it happens. I remember one day sitting on the kitchen floor at my friends house while they rang and rang the intercom. We pretended we weren’t there. We had to sit where we were sure that we couldn’t be seen from any window from the street. The kitchen window had flimsy curtains.
Here we were, two grown up adults with grown up children hiding on the floor in the kitchen. We were meant to be going out. We had to wait until we thought the coast was clear before we could!
That’s what they reduce you to. In the real world, you would just walk out the door and say “leave me alone” and go on your way. It isn’t an option when you still feel your eternity is at stake.
Yea. I tried that after hitting my limit of frustration (except it ended in a screaming match where I told her to fuck off) and the IAS reg went into the bottom of her “pocket of tricks,” wrote a bogus KR on me prompting the MAA to call me in. It got worse but that’s the ultimate lesson in this church, isn’t it? “It’s always worse than you think.”
I had a remarkably similar thing happen to me some years ago, they must have spent at least half an hour ringing my intercom before they finally went away, the thing is they were pretty certain I was there but it was a top floor apartment so no way of getting in unless I let them into the building.
These days I’d have no hesitation about calling the police claiming harassment.
Same thing happened to me and also to a couple I know. I had to hide in a certain place at my house. They came around to the backyard through a gate and looked in every window. And also my friend was gone one day, they came to her house and walked all around the house jumping up to see in the windows. The neighbor told her about it . She told the neighbor if that ever happens again call the police on them. Then she told the IAS later that her neighbor said there were people jumping up to look in and that she would call the police if that ever happened again. It never happened again.
Good for you, Cindy! But, again, opening the door with a shotgun usually is enough. If they still don’t leave, you cock the shotgun. Believe, the sound of that will have them pooping in their pants.
Hi Dawn,Your post was so true. Yours and Valeries’s post remind me of 1980-82. I had blown Sea Org in late 78.After Walter and I married we lived in a very nice basement apartment at his parents house in Beacon Hill. The Boston GO minders were forever calling and hanging up and ringing their door bell.One time they showed up dressed to the nines in sharp suits and those damn loafers, my Mom in law was clueless and nearly invited them all in for coffee! That would have been cute! The funny point is that our entrance was down some steps,a locked gate for us and thru a tunnel leading into the courtyard. The GOers never found it in over two years! So much for the great OT powers over mest! Love, Ann.
1) Karen gets up, walks out into the room and delivers a few pounds of whoop ass onto the heads of the lurkers. Meanwhile hubby has shit his pants and is summoned to the MAAs office.
2) MAAs go to work on hubby who either is a neutered male and caves or grows a pair and tells the cherch to stick it.
3) Meanwhile, Karen moves on and creates a life worth living while actively posting on Mike and Tony’s blogs and helping others to wake up and say fuck you to the over reaching random acts of stupidity more commonly known as the Cult of $cientology.
Terrific story of another couple in sync about being fed up with the hamster wheel of theft that is Scientology.
But let us pause for a moment to note, with weary astonishment, that showing up at your door in the middle of the night to beg/demand more money is a normal and accepted practice in the church of scamatology.
…and if you complain about it you just might be a disaffected, potentially esspee, out-ethics scumbag who is associating with bitter defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet.
Hi Regraded Being, Oh I love cliffhangers. I always come back for more.You are a shining star and you motivate me to do and be better each week.?? Ann.
love you and the hearts, StarChild.
You are making the planet safer and, yes,
Starlight gives the place a nice shimmer,
rather golden.
Keep on keeping ON (speaking the truth)
=Mark
Hi LDW, I love saying what you posted and I am very proud to be a bitter, disaffected, out-ethics scumbag consorting with all you defrocked apostates on the fringes of the Internet. Would not want to be with anyone else but y’all.( I know from Boston Mass & I love saying y’all.It covers all bases.Love, Ann.
Hi Ann – Speaking of defrocked apostates, I’ve carried my “Minister’s Certificate” around with misc. papers for all these years (30+). I dragged it out of a box in the attic last week and a friend of mine who is a good artist is going to red letter it CANCELLED-APOSTATE. I’ll frame it and it might look good somewhere out in the garage.
Hi Richard D, Very good to see your post I had a bunch of certs I could not leave without bringing attention to myself. Wish I could decorate the powder room with them now. Love, Ann.
Hi Richard D, I lost track of your post for a moment. I think your Cert would look absolutely fabulous framed in all it’s cos glory. I wish I had taken all my certs and done the same as you. Unfortunately the check out situation from the Hollywood Inn with Guardians’ Office Intel on my tail 24/7,was such that I had to travel light.Love, Ann.
Next story idea for RB: two scientologists conversing about their progress on the bridge….scene pulls back to reveal that they are actually running together in a giant hamster wheel, as $$$ falls out of their pockets…the scene pulls out wider to reveal a number of pallid, underfed and sleepless SeaOrg staff standing beneath the giant hamster wheel, stooping down to pick up the cash and put it in baskets on their backs, like former cotton picking slaves…
(Or just replace the Hamster Wheel with the Running around the pole exercise Purification Rundown at flag, with the same cotton pickers collecting $$$ that streams out of the pockets of the runners…same idea)
Whao! Now that’s a post! I can even see the hamster wheel! Very well done, Bruce! As a never-in, you do seem to have a knack for hitting the nail on the head.
The last course I took the regged insisted that I would pay for the next one immediately after writing “a win statement” about the last one, I refused, I said I will be back when am ready and when I have time, she called a second reg, and she third party me in front of the second regg, the second reg told me you agree that this is good for you right? I say well yes, but…. Pay then! she said with authority and hate in her eyes, this one didn’t have the spaced out look in her eyes, she look more like and evil mosquito with squinty little beady eyes Write that check! she said, I was totally confused and almost affraid, how some one that consider themselves to be so Ethical uses such a violent command to order me to pay, I was mad, I paid but I didn’t finish the course I was pissed.
As we speak, perhaps a divorce or 2 is happening right now in a similar scenario.
Hi Ann – Speaking of defrocked apostates, I’ve carried my “Minister’s Certificate” around with misc. papers for all these years (30+). I dragged it out of a box in the attic last week and a friend of mine who is a good artist is going to red letter it CANCELLED-APOSTATE. I’ll frame it and it might look good out in the garage.
Ugh Mike this belongs way below – first time posted didn’t show up then ended up here delete if you can – sorry
THANKS MIKE! When the HAS banged on my door at 11PM and told me we had a MANDATORY meeting at midnight, I started thinking that maybe the COS wasn’t really a sane organization. I went to the meeting but that was the last public meeting I went to. It’s the craziness that keeps people away. I love reading these stories of nuttiness. Keep posting.
Question: Do IAS regges who are SO members make commissions on the amounts they fleece? I know several non-SO regges have raked in big bucks doing this but I was wondering about the billion-year guys.
LOL!!! I would LOVE to see part two next week!
Very dark comedy today! They always show up in packs of course, so you feel outnumbered and therefore insecure from the get-go. I believe it’s known as “tag-teaming” or something in the sales jargon.
I still can’t get over that they show up to your house:
1) unannounced
2) uninvited; and
3) after 9 pm
Call me old-fashioned, but I would never do this nor would I expect my pastor or any parishioners to do this to me…,.unless it was an emergency or someone had died or was in desperate need of help…..even then, I would calll someone before coming over…
I love it when Tom Cruise lectures people about ‘getting their manners in’. Of course, I am guessing no one shows up at Cruise’s house at midnight asking for money.
Please….someone who has suffered through this, explain to me how you restrain yourself from calling the police or kicking them out….
These people rely on their victims being too polite to ask them to leave, but this really goes beyond the pale…..
Very funny, especially the ending! Yep, too real – the vulture culture at its worst. I think distribution of The Way to Happiness could have an effect in some communities, but unfortunately DM has dead-agented the name of LRH and Scientology for the general public, so if the connection is seen, the booklet will be tossed. And as others have pointed out, rushing in right after a tragic attack and telling people who have been murdered, not to murder, is nonsensical and the biggest wrong indication or “make wrong” one can give.
Thanks RB. This is an other truth that gradually makes us realize that the only thing they want. MONEY. But it is also what sooner or later pulls members away. Just in the last month I know of at least 10 OLD MEMBERS that are pulling out. Undercover Hiding, but also talking to others about it. Gradually those other also see this and more GO.
This stuff happens all the time. No one wants to answer their phones. You tell them not to call you at work but they do anyway. They sometimes show up at your work and you have to give everyone a bullshit story.
You get a new phone number, don’t tell them but they find out somehow.
They call during holidays, important events in your life or just show up at your house whatever time.
One time my in-laws were visited by some reg and after 5 hours of regging, my father-in-law called my husband because they wouldn’t take no for an answer.
M Greene, they CAN’T take no for an answer! I was at the Tustin Org in Orange County, CA. My auditor, Dave Petitt, kept pushing me to attest to Clear. But, for me at least, NOTHING had changed for me. And, I kept remembering the ORIGINAL definition of Clear: “A Clear is to a normal person, what a normal person is to the institutionally insane.” That’s quite the yawning gap, in my mind. I sat down with the ED, John Woodruff and told him how I felt. He didn’t like hearing what I had to say.
But, and this is a HUGE but, since I got out in ’82, I’ve moved several times here in the OC, so they were never, ever able to track me down.
Free at last, free at last, thank Xenu almighty, I’m free at last!
“what a normal person is to the institutionally insane.” just curious has there been any study’s on what the insane think of a normal person, and what is normal? I think that is just hot air from Hubbard right there.
Fink, that’s the ONLY thing that ever came out of fatso: hot air. Putrid hot air.
Vultures. Makes me sick.
Question…
Why even answer the door? I realize they may come to someone’s place of business (a whole other level of stalker-creepy-shit), and that’s harder to avoid. But why let them in the house?
Excellent… I just love the sailor talk..seems to be rampant in the scientology world..lol
Who was it, who said that scientology is such a wonderful thing, if it were not for the people who run it?
(I find it interesting that covert operations got into the on line spell checkers and made sure that the word Scientology is supposed to be capitalized, to give it in your face “significance” as if it were holy on par with God.)
Dio
That was hysterical! Too funny!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Stupid cult!
Hi Dio, A great post. Thank you for noticing this. I was about to give my IPad beans and cold dogs, because it kept capitalizing Scientology when I told it not too. Now I know why. Enjoy your posts. Always, Ann.
Regraded Being is too good. And the comments. I wish there was a Facebook button to share with my friends.
I cannot say that this is funny at all. It really happened to me. And my ex was opening the door at midnight. She knew I always had to get up early. I was pissed for quite a while. And you know what? If you tell these fuckers that donating was no win, then there is something wrong with you. Have you ever read the wins from depleting your funds and giving up dreams? It is a sign that you lost a game and need justifications for it.
OMG, bfm! You don’t know that donations are the new case gain? You don’t need auditing or training at all! All you have to do is hand over every single dime you have and, PRESTO! You’re just received case gain! Ain’t it great?
I think I told this story on Tony’s blog but not with this detail. I’m still partners with and OT2 and OT5 (regrettably….working on separating business from OT2 once she finds out I’m a wannabe SP Meritorious In Command Intention..at least I fancy myself an honorable mention at least, lol, given how much I want to see this evil slime exposed for what it is). OT2 is about to go clear by end of year she claims. One day OT2 and I had a conversation that led to talking about how, despite my upcoming tennis book, I can’t live on my past laurels and just expect people to buy it because I was head pro at a fairly well known midwest tennis facilty and appeared on some famous videos with a renowned tennis coach. She is trying to get me to use the admin scale from LieIntology to set up a game plan as the book nears completion and we anticipate more donations for our non-profit (not a chance I will allow any money to go to WTH booklets as she has suggested). She gets a phone call during our weekly Wednesday tennis clinic as she normally does (and I know from experience who it is, stat day on Thursday is close, been with her enough Weds to see her answer and I’ve watched her phone ring off the hook from the Los Angeles exchange). She attends the Ventura mission on Eastman Av (moved third time to an industrial park out of the way, thank goodness).
I watch her grab her check book and donate a grand. We grab the tennis balls and she jumps in my car to our weekly lunch down the street. Phone rings barely five minutes later and I hear her say “I just gave you a donation, and then she tells me to get a table and order for her and she’ll join me in a few. She sits down fifteen minutes later (her food nearly cold) and I ask wryly what was that all about. She said she got a lesson that what’s in the past is in the past. She said it must have a been a sign that we were talking about resting on laurels because she just learned that to keep scientology working she must never look back and always focus on present time. She said she tried to tell them they had just called her five minutes earlier but they showed her how that didn’t matter. I had heard her state the grand over the phone but now I actually did peek to notice she wrote an additional 500 into her check book. Funny thing is as I dropped her off to her car the phone rang three more times and I peeked over once and could see it was the same L.A number that called earlier. I noticed she kept looking down knowing it was the “reg” and when I told her she could take that call, she said “I don’t have to take that, I’ll be on course in a few hours anyway.” I hope to get her to Tory Magoo before she starts OT3 after the first of the year.
Hi StudentOfLife, What an eye opening post! Yes way back when I signed that billion year paper, I was zapped and blinded by the light of Ron. It is very sad to see a person completely lose her own identity and continue giving $ to dm. But as we both know, in my case, something really traumatic needed to happen before the Dawn breaks. It happened with me and I hate that it was the way it was, but I still feel Ron,the tech etc were all signs of a mind hypnotist. I give Ron all his due on this point, he was one of those and very good at it.Always, Ann.
My spouse was never in. Accompanied me to the mission (Valley) and took a personality test. That’s it. The person that read the results accidentally handed the print out to my spouse which has all of the buzz words to press. We have that thing somewhere here.
Since then the calls happen over and over. Starting at 9pm. Tried to get them to stop but they will not. That one small mistake has turned into calls from lots of different orgs. Told them they were nut jobs, leave us alone, remove us…over and over and over. Each call the person tried to “handle” the ARCx. What a JOKE.
This year, ten years later, there was only 1 call.
Want to inflict lasting misery on an enemy? Send their contact info in to the church of scientology!
I understand how fruatrating it must be to get the endless calls! I wonder if they would continue to call if you started to read OT III to them every time they called.
Or read any of this blog to them…. Or shared any of the thousands of stories out there…
Of course you should start reading them OT 3! In a very loud voice, I might add.
I did that at the Pasadena Idle Morgue several years ago. Now, I didn’t tell them I was about to revel OT 3. I just starting talking about it. They didn’t make the connection right away, but, when they did they ran inside and closed the door. So I raised my voice so they could still hear me. Hey, I wanted to be polite….
Thats real funny young surfer dude. I almost wish they would start calling me again so I can try that.
Hey, thanks for the ‘young’ comment, Doug! I haven’t heard that word in relation to me in one hellava long time.
Hi Chee Chalker, Love your post I think reading this blog to them should do it. It will shrivel them up and blow them away. XO Ann.
HAH I did that once. Signed them right on up for emails and everything I could find.
Hi TOOT to OT, So very true your post. It all stinks but sometimes one has to fight fire with fire. I would have loved to have seen the tables turn on those GOers, now OSAers to see how they would like it! Always, Ann.
I hope you can help her too, SOL. BTW, I started playing when I was a kid and to got to play doubles with Rod Laver. One time a Indian Wells, near Palm Springs, Alex Olmeda (aka The Chief) asked me to be his doubles partner, but, I had come to take pictures and didn’t have clothes or equipment to play.
Wow. Rod the Rocket from Rockhampton. My childhood hero.
Mike, did you play tennis? We used to play a lot at INT in the La Quinta area (we had a court at W). It would have been fun if you were there then. Lots of doubles. A great distraction from the insanity of the SO.
Hi Mike, My post to OSD flew away. I was posting that my late rents were ski and tennis freaks.Had a court and private lessons but my instructors hated me because I hit the tennis ball like a baseball always out, I could never get my serve right and when playing net I would stand there with a dropped racket if the ball came to me. I was much better at badminton for some reason. Somewhere I have Rid Laver’s autograph. My Dad always took us to all the matches at the Longwood Tennis Club outside Boston. This would be the 60s and early 70s. Saw and met all the great ones, Laver, Ashe, Borg etc, loved watching them, but I was better at swimming, skiing and riding. Love, Ann.
Mike, he talked with me just like I was his friend. I still have a picture of him as I was a tournament tennis player myself. One picture his head was down so he told me to take another one. I’ve been to Australia for business. I fell in love with the country and the people. This was probably back in either ’80 or ’81.
Back in the glory days of genteel tennis — Fred Stolle, John Newcombe, Ken Rosewall etc. Australia dominated tennis back in those days. But The Rocket with his Popeye left arm was a national treasure…
I admired all the names you posted. But Australia had many great players into the 90s. I played 6 days a week. The only time I would not play was when the Los Angeles Lakers were on. The problem was, when I was on my game, I was a great guy! But, when my shots went haywire, I wasn’t. Tennis is a funny game. It brings both joy and anger. I had my share of both.
I’m going to scan and email you some pics from the 80s including Rocket Rod Laver.
BTW, did you stay in the U.S. (read Clearwater) to be close to your estranged family? When I was in Melbourne, I fell in love with that city. Australians are sports crazy, fit, and love to have a great time!
In the mid 70s I was back living in Hawai’i. My buddy and I hooked up with two Aussie surfers. We had a fantastic time surfing together. And, they told me Australia was trying to get people to immigrate down there. I still kick myself for not looking into that now that I know what Australia is like.
No, I stayed here to be close to my new family… Long story
Hi OSD, My late rents were tennis and ski freaks. Had a court and private lessons and my tennis coaches all hated me because I repeatedly hit the tennis ball as a baseball, why I do not know, could never get my serve right and when playing net would completely drop my racket and stand there when the ball came at me.Somewhere is Laver’s autograph as my rents had us go to all the matches at the Longwood Tennis Club near Boston. Saw all the greats up to that time 60s and early 70s.I do like badminton because I can handle that. Love, Ann.Ha can you see us all playing tennis against still ins? A hoot! Love, Ann.
I am going to have a talk with my bad IPad. Methinks some gremlins are up to their tricks.Sorry for two similar posts. Ann.
Over 50 now, I can still hang with almost anyone not in the top 200 in the world so my game is still pretty good if I can last long enough, lol. Tried to make the tour in late 70s but failed miserably due to bad coaching as the USA didn’t have a clue where the game was going (nor did England or Australia which explains the rankings in the 21st century). I am more known as a top amateur coach. It will be a tough one to help her. I am responsible for introducing her to LieIntology when I intro’d her to OT5 who was my full business partner at the time and scammed people for over a million by selling stock in his company which of course, the Scilons bankrupted as soon as they got his money for course work. We were all promised ten percent returns (he’s one of the few sports celebs in scilonland) and he used to live a lifestyle anyone would be envious of. Today he’s 76, broke and a kool-aid drinker of Hubbard to the 47th exponent. He doesn’t even know they have thrown him to the curb. They tell him he’s got overts and withholds which is why he didn’t continue to be wealthy. I want to get OT2 out. It’s a soap opera about to come to a conclusion as I have been threatened with SP except she can’t find it in her heart to disconnect as I’m her last remaining public close friend. She drove everyone else away. I just hang until I can’t anymore and that time is approaching in 2016.
Hi StudentOf Life, I really think the situation that you find yourself in is extremely tough.
I really am sorry for what you are going through. I am almost 65 and it can be a weird landscape at times.Here is my opinion. You post that you introduced this person to the OTs and she paid for a lot of auditing and training.Now it seems she cannot continue at the top of her game as she once was.That is the steel trap of this cult. That is why it is so very hard to escape.Love ? & thank you Ann.
Thank you RB.
Benefit from my experience is little free books won’t work
with this war. I’ve been in Combat with SEAL Team 3 and been
in the Kill Zone of things that went Ka Boom. So 14 people
in San Bernardino not so lucky, 21 wounded. If a little book would stop
someone who is bent on killing me because God says so, I would use it.
plan B is a 12 ga. pump , M 4 with extra mags, M 79 ( elephant gun / bloop tube)
a liberated AK 47 , and anything I could pickup on the field of battle.
When I’m contacted by a real fundraiser I always say I’m sorry but I can’t.
When I was working in pizza deliver I once had an idea that I wrote down for a future story or screenplay:
Driver: Why is that nun outside praying for the souls of the damned?
Manager: Why do robbers hit banks? Because that’s where the money is.
Real work in the real world can be rewarding, those fundraisers should try it sometime.
Clams can’t function in the real world. They have to be in the safe arms of ‘theta’ and never hear a discouraging word.
Those fundraisers get 10% commission on their ‘sales’, that is why they do it. Note that the Albuquerque NM mOrg raised 6 thousand from 19 ‘donors’ at a recent ‘match game’ event. That evens out to 315 dollars from each ‘donor’. Not exactly straight up and vertical is it?
The late night visit from the regs for an ’emergency’ is typical of all scams. Scam the mark once and you try to keep the scam running. Nothing is easier than repeat ‘business’.
In case you missed it.
http://home.tampabay.com/news/scientology/city-attorney-to-clearwater-police-protests-on-sidewalk-in-front-of/2256426
“On Oct. 22, Circuit Judge Thomas Minkoff denied the motion.”
He doesn’t seem to be a cult member, but is he related to the Dr. Minkoff who pronounced Lisa MacPherson?
Nice one RB!
Bravo ! Regraded being. That’s exactly the way it is. That ‘s how the straw that breaks the camel’s back comes by. Degraded being should be awarded a doctorate honoris causae on the sociology of Scientology. He really knows his subject like the palm of his hand.
Should read honoris causa. Sorry
Very good RB. You’re developing quite the grip on life surrounding scientology and a wicked sense of humour – I like it!
I like the ‘wicked’ part.
As a never in, can someone explain what options a Scientologist has to stop the cold calls? What about a cease and desist letter followed up by harassment charges if they keep coming back? Does changing phone numbers help? I am asking these questions honestly, because I don’t know what works or doesn’t with a group that is determined to bulldoze over you at every opportunity.
Hi Lori S, I would surmise the technology of blocking phone calls has come quite a way since the early 80s. Back then with cold calls I would just hang up.But getting a cease and desist letter would not have worked for me because the Intelligence Guardian’s Office minders who liked me for breakfast, only followed the Law of Ron. I had blocked phone numbers for years and still got calls. So I kept on my path the best I could and eventually although it took years, left all that in the rear view mirror. Scientology is a shape shifting beast that always finds a way to get back at one. The trick is to block them out, before any more damage is done. For example years ago,I was going to tell my Sea Org story to one of the hot investigative reporters at the Boston Globe. I had met with him many times, had photos taken all that stuff and was ready to do it. Back then though the lawyers for the Globe killed th whole thing because cos threatened them if the story ran. It is through the efforts of the brave warriors like Mike, Marty, Tony and all others, we have come this far.I like your posts. Love, Ann.
Is your SO story posted someplace?
Hi nomnom, It is good to meet you. I am bad and my Sea Org story is within Mike’s Blog since about Jan.2015, when his blog literally found me. I really must bite the bullet at some point and put the whole tale together in one place. Thank you, with your validation I just might give the whole project a go. However all posters here are so good, I love reading all. Suffice it to say I was not in like Mike and so many others born into Sea Org or joining when of age. My heroes all. So I was in SO at Asho F from 74-78. But long or short once that billion year contract is signed, hang on for a ride of your life that one has to jump off to get out.Always, Ann.
Do not keep yourself off the brave list Ann. You got out, you stayed out and you are speaking up. That is bravery.
xx darling.
Hi gtsix, Do you know I carry a piece of your light in my heart? When I have to confront cancers, which believe me can be scary and boring at the same time, I see your light shine. Thank you for believing my story. I have had experience ( not here on this blog) with a few who got out and I was involved with during the Flynn court cases back in the 80s.I was told flat out that my story concerning GO operatives etc was not true because the GO would never do to me what I said they did do. Back then I just shut down for many many years and only talked about it all to my cat and dachshund. Then I literally stumbled onto Mike’s Blog and here we are.xxoo and all love straight back to you always. Ann.
They don’t have any options, if they want to remain in the Church. They give up any reliance on “wog” law and legal system, and agree to handle everything internally. It is like living under Sharia law in a Muslim area.
Or living in North Korea….
Or San Bernardino
Sadly, quite true. San Bernardino County used to mostly agriculture. It was a beautiful place back in the 50s through the 70s. Then gangs started moving in. And, the majority of the residents are on some form of aid.
OSD,
I was thinking about the terrorist party crashers this week. Most of my posts that push the envelope get sent to the recycle bin. How did you get your Poetic License? Must be all of that raw talent.
Well, I was a professional entertainer for many years. Never got a contract, though. I did: Acting, musical acting, stand-up, radio, TV and M/C. When I was doing stand-up, i made sure to push the envelope! Also, some of my posts have been sent to the recycle bin too. Hey, I’ve got to be me!
A cease and desist letter only works if you want to “lose your eternity” (leave the Church). The calls will stop when you walk away from scientology. Not a second sooner. If you tell them you are being harrassed, they ask you what your crimes are and what you are hiding from them, they turn it back on you.
I find if you mention this blog or “Going Clear” they will stop contacting you immediately
Oh man! I’ve got to try that out! Thanks Doug!!!
And I want to try out your technique of reading the ot3 material to them.
LOL! Doug, it’s just so much fun!
The best way to handle them is to say No Thank you with high ARC. You can’t hesitate, flinch, look away, etc. If they persist you say it again and walk away or hang up. They hardly ever bother me any more.
Hi Lori ,
For Scientologists , Scientology represent humanity’s only chance at spiritual “salvation”. They REALLY believe this ; it is not faked at all. They are indoctrinated, since the first service they do , that w/out Scientology this world doesn’t stand a chance , and that once we die we’ll go to an area called “In-Between life area” to be electronically implanted by “suppressive aliens” that will erase our past memory (putting in also, false purposes and recalls) , and will send us back to Earth to be reborn again , thus keeping humans trapped. The body is thought of by LRH, as only a trap to keep spirits debased and powerless.
The idea behind Scientology is to do some graduated steps , which consist in some sort of psychotherapy, to “increase” your spiritual awareness , making you realize that you are an immortal soul, and allegedly “rehabilitate” your ability to operate w/out the need of a body, thus ending the long death-rebirth cycle. This end product is call “Total Freedom” by LRH, the perfect pull-in button, as who in this world doesn’t seek spiritual salvation ?
LRH, VERY cleverly, invalidates thoroughout his writings every past mental and spiritual therapy that humans has ever practiced. He only validates Buddhism (only to some degree) as he allegedly is the reincarnation of Siddharta Gautama, the Buddha. He also claimed to have been the Buddha himself. Every philosophy before Scientology was either faulty or booby-trapped , and thus not recommended.
He also, very cleverly, invalidated the Sciences as a method to discover truth. He did it with the subject of mathematics as well. Therefore, all that remained that was really “workable” was Scientology itself. Everything else was either wrong , imperfect, or a fraud. With that strong suggestion impressed in the minds of the Scientologists, they become robotized under the spell of an EXPERT hypnotist, and possibly one of the best that this century has ever seen.
Under that scenario as described above , resisting or having “Counter Intentions”, as they call it , with donating for the alleged “noble” and “humanitarian” purposes of Scientology , is considered being “Out-ethics” (Scientology’s term for “immoral”) , which is like blasphemy in Scientology. One is considered even as a “Suppressive Person” , as being against Scientology or its programs is the same as not caring about the future of humanity. A Scientologist even feel guilty and apologetic, sort of propitiative, when he doesn’t contribute to the cause by donating.
So stopping “Cold Calls” or visits during the middle of the night, is something not easy to do for a true believer. You got yo be able to think as a cult member does to be able to understand the cult phenomena. It rob us Free will and proper discernment of things. It rob us of the ability to think for ourselves as our trust is TOTALLY given to one single individual ; the cult leader. So, short of being deprogrammed from the cult, there is very little to do about those issues.
TC
Theta Clear – Astounding! This is the best short summary of Scientology that I have ever seen. I hope that you keep it on file and post it as many times as possible.
Thanks for the validation, SPs united ; most kind. Yes, it is already saved ; thanks for the suggestion.
Best regards ,
TC
Omg!
In my household, this story would continue along the lines of mass murder, including dead husband due to (wog-world) non-emergent 3AM spousal awakening, husbandly stupidity, and (perceived) persecution by religious idiots! And justified on the basis of defending life and property.
A cliff hanger in itself, as my natural reaction is to yell at the husband just like I yell at all the erstwhile ingenues of every horror movie I’ve seen. I’m dying to see what happens next!
I get the sense that Karen in our story is champing at the bit to personally launch those ghouls from her life, and might have severely chastised Jack if he had done the deed while she slept. In any case, we’ll see next week (I hope) what happens next.
I’d like to see Karen in the Octagon with the 3 cult members. Even though out numbered 3 to 1, she would tear them a new one! Twice. Maybe even 3 times….
I think its a great place to end it, leaves his wife’s reaction up to the imagination, which judging by her earlier comments and the time of night will not be pretty!
You gotta be fucking kidding me !! Will be her reaction…lol
Phil on
I am having lunch reading along and I almost spit out my lunch after your spot on comment to what her reaction would be.
Funny but true..
Straw. Meet camel’s back. Because the “donor” pool is so small, scientology does not have the luxury of doing as any legitimate charitable organization on the planet does: ask once, get a donation, if possible, move on .
If you continue to hit up the same people dozens (hundreds) of times a year, eventually the answer will be no. They will either be bled dry or wake up to the scam.
The lack of respect for personal boundaries exercised by scientologists was something I experienced first hand in 2011 when for a 6 month period they were attempting to “recover” me. Nothing could be said to stop the relentless calls, no time of day or night mattered nor did what you were doing. They absolutely force you to become an outspoken critic and vocal enemy before they will back off and give you back your personal space.
Very odd business model. (Especially for a business purporting to be a church).
Hi Valerie, Anecdotes are always appreciated.
Are anecdotes anything like anchovies?
Not exactly, because anchovies are also appreciated.
Well, I certainly appreciate you and your post, hgc.
Yeah but they hold the only key to your eternity Valerie. Certainly that counts for something. After all, they are only trying to help you help yourself! 🙂
Yeah, Val, sup wit dat? We’re talkin’ your ETERNITY here!! And there’s only one fucking key! And we all know who holds the magical key! And Coop is right, all were trying to do is to help you help yourself…gosh you’d think you’d be thankful or something….
Forwarding this to a friend they keep going after! And he left in the 80s! But he is well off and just too nice a guy.
MostEthicalPimp: As posted elsewhere, here’s how I finally got rid of them, please pass this on to your friend:
I don’t remember the exact date, but I think it was sometime in 2011, April, if I am correct when out of the blue, I received a message on my answering machine.
My husband of almost 5 years had never heard of scientology, I had been gone for close to 30 years and never told him about the “dark years” of my life. Some people tell me I’m lying that I hadn’t told him. Others have never told their spouses either. After I left for good, I did not mention scientology to anyone. I did my best to pretend it did not exist. All those years later, I’d done a pretty good job of forgetting it did. Then came the call.
This is the post I put on Mike’s blog today in response to someone else’s comment:
I know this will make no sense to someone who has never been there, but all the sense in the world to anyone who has ever left so I’m going to post it in response to your “I wonder if you realize how utterly evil is this organization” Here’s my response.
I hadn’t heard a peep from the organization since 1983. In 2011, there was a message on my answering machine, all cheery and “uptone” from the church of scientology asking me to call them (the first of hundreds in their attempt to “recover” me). My response to that message?
Abject terror. Anyone who has ever been a part of the organization understands that they are always in their crosshairs and even 30 years later Freaks. The. Hell. Out. if they find them. That is how utterly evil that organization is.
Period. The end.
I stupidly called Kendra Bogacz Witcher (sp) back and talked to her (she’s from WY) – she asked me to look at the scn website. Hey, I’ve been out awhile, I was curious what was going on. I was Shocked!!! that David Miscavige was still in, much less running. the. whole. damn. place. but somehow knew to keep my mouth shut.
She asked me to watch some video, I told her I didn’t have time, tax season and all – so yeah, it was April. and thought I’d brushed her off politely.
Riiiiiiight.
April 16, 8am she called again, then she called 3 more times that day then I blocked that number, so she mutated and called from unknown numbers so I quit answering her calls so she started leaving messages several times a day.
After a week and over 50 calls, I called back on a Sunday and told her to quit fu**ing stalking me and to leave me the F*&* alone. She obviously took that as a challenge.
Then the mail started arriving and arriving and arriving and arriving and . . .
I started marking the mail “RETURN TO STALKER” in red pen without opening it. Still got mail. Then I started printing out the Lisa McPherson story and enclosing color photos of her autopsy, using their return address envelopes to send it. The mail stopped abruptly, but the calls, ooh the calls, they would not slow down.
My husband meanwhile, got a crash course in scientology, who I was in scientology, why he didn’t know who I was, why I was scared of scientology and started worrying about Kendra and whether her life was in danger.
The funny part about the calls is
1. They didn’t know my married name, and I didn’t bother to let them know it;
2. They had no clue who I was, only knew my Clear No. They were just trying to get me to come in, get declared unclear buy some Basics and start at the bottom of the Bridge again. I was just another name with no data attached, they had no clue who I knew or even that I had been in SO, I asked.
3. They had the wrong address for me. Still do. The address they have is an amalgamation of two different addresses, one from when I lived in a different state and one partially correct, which is an address American Express messed up when I forwarded my mail 2 moves ago and since I had cancelled the card and mailed the last payment, I didn’t bother to correct it, it just made me aware of the people Amex sold their mailing list to. The mailman has known me for 20 years so knew where to find me. He offered to return the mail to sender Address unknown but I told him that would just tip them off so he kept delivering it, offering me a red pen to mark Return to Stalker on it so they knew it was me rejecting it. If you google earth the address they have it comes up with a strange result.
Anyway, as anyone who has been on the receiving end of the calls knows, they were relentless. Kendra gave up and several other people took her place over a 6-months period. I occasionally called someone back and told them I wanted nothing to do with them. As my niece puts it, I did not spew profanity, I stated it clearly and succinctly.
Then hundreds of calls later…at one point I kept track, but I have since thrown away the count, but more than 250 calls in 6 months so you get the idea Larry Jacobs called. For those of you not familiar with the name, shame on you. Go read “Blown For Good” right now.
I listened to the message and decided it was time to end it. By this time I was no longer afraid. I planned my attack, even emailed Marc Headley and asked him for dirt on Larry, then I called them.
I asked for Larry Jacobs. It took almost 5 minutes to get him on the phone. I asked him if he was recording the call. After a long pause he said no. I said “nice comm lag” then told him I was. I basically let him know I knew he was lying about the call not being recorded, he spewed some other lie. Blah blah blah.
We had a long conversation, actually quite civil. During the course of it, I asked him what he thought of David Miscavige. He quoted Tom Cruise’s Medal of Honor speech verbatim. I laughed and said “so they’re making you Chinese School Tom Cruise’s Medal of Valor Speech now?” He said “well it’s true”. I flatly said “I’ve met the man.”
I went on to tell him I knew he had once blown the Sea Org. He denied that he had, that he had just been on the RPF. I asked him why if he was on the RPF did they have to use his wife to recover him before she divorced him and why someone didn’t just run down and ask for his password to his laptop rather than hacking it. He didn’t know.
I told him that I wanted to be left alone, and what part of leave me the F alone did he not understand and what would it take to get that done. He went into a song and dance about if a PC leaves a session with an ARCX, you need to recover them and fix the ARCX. I said “thirty fuc**?g years later?” That’s a long ARCX. He was quiet.
I went on and let him know that his calls were costing me a lot of money because every time anyone from Scientology called I logged on and either donated anonymously to Tony, Marty Rathbun, the Headley legal fund or any other good anti-Scientology place I could find and with the several hundreds of calls they had made, that was quite a dent in my pocketbook.
He said “well it’s obvious you go on the Internet, so I’m going to blacklist you.” I laughed and told thank you. A few keystrokes later he told me it was done. I thanked him and hung up.
No calls or mail since. That was November 2011.
Hi Valerie, You go on my list as one of the brave warrior heroes. Thank you. In admiration, Ann.
Is this Larry Jacobs who is/was? married to Gunhild Jacobs? I’m Gunhild’s sister. Does anyone know where they’re at now?
I’ve had various individuals trying to recover me as well, they don’t seem to realize that the biggest “win” of my scn career was getting out, I’ve never experienced such blessed relief. When the last individual tried it I ended up threatening to call the police as they wouldn’t leave, this seemed to do the trick and no one has been back since.
I remember when the Basics came out they sent staff and long term public out to try to recover wayward individuals, admittedly one or two did return to the fold but generally the reaction was either outright hostility or politely but firmly telling them to go away.
I simply yelled at the two women who knocked to stop bothering me and not come back. Didn’t let them get more than one or two words out before I slammed the door in their faces and was never bothered again.
I was in the middle of watching The Sopranos fer crissakes! (Gee, I hope they weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses.)
Whoa! civmar, are you telling me that cult members interrupted you while watching The Sopranos??? Did any of them live?
Hi OSD, I saw your post to civmar. I would imagine if he was interrupted watching The Sopranos by the likes of those two, well they had better have their track shoes on and even then my money is definitely on civmar kicking butt! Love, Ann.
Well, Ann B, we are talking about The Sopranos!
After 21 years of this crap, I remember finally getting fed up with the calls, multiple mails (to multiple misspelled names), “good roads/fair weather” handwritten notes, and the like, and started going “up the chain of command” to find “The Guy” (or gal, but it was a guy) who could end this. I was determined. “Who do you report to?” I finally wound up talking to someone at the main LA org, whose exact title (and name) is lost to my old brain, but it was a man who was at the top of the chain as far as this went. I was firm, patient, but not angry. I assured him I held no ill will against Scientology, but that I wanted no further contact and that this was a waste of resources. All they were doing was clearing the planet…. of trees (an off-hand joke I heard someone make at a Scientology book event). He took down each of the misspelled names and address variations, as well as that of a blown Scientologist who still got mail after living in my home for six months despite having moved out 20 years earlier. He assured me that he was removing these entries as we were speaking. To my amazement… I haven’t gotten a single piece of mail or a phone call from any Scientologist. It’s over a decade now. So it is possible, but it takes persistence, patience and just the right “tone.”
So glad you out. And…been out for a decade! I got out in ’82.
I just told the caller to update the addresso to show that I’ve been declared and that she’d better brush up on her ethics as she’d now spoken to an SP.
Blessed silence ever since
What’s even more whacko about the church is that prior training and experience in auditing are actively rejected, no matter how good you were or the results you can get. In fact the better you are the more they are inclined to declare you. As a group they don’t want you to know how to use the technology, no matter what they say. Everyone must develop the same technical application and expertise as miscavige.
They truly aren’t interested in any other product except a donated cash figure. They don’t even bother to hide their true intent anymore. Status attainment, what a bs gimmick that is.
They also defy what a business is too… strangest damned creature that ever oozed out of the ether scientology – damn strange! Biggest rip off known to those who know how auditing is supposed to work. Nothing scares a scientologist more than someone who knows what they are talking about.
Scientologists know so little about their own subject it defies belief, they truly are stupid people!
And who is actually winning with scientology? Lawyers & security agents!
“Everyone must develop the same technical application and expertise as miscavige.” Yes. And of course Lisa McPherson’s case is the “ideal” that leads to.
I Yawn, I was a body router in Hawai’i at the so-called mission. I set records there. Most books (both hard & soft cover sold) as well as bring in massive amounts of people. More than anyone before and I’m sure after. What was my reward? A B of I. I left shortly after that.
You can’t be too good otherwise, you become target.
That’s the true exchange of miscavige. That brings his indicators in, targets of substance introverted when upstat and now OUT!
True dat!
RB you have reached a new level of humor. To be continued, I hope.
It’s exactly how it happens. I remember one day sitting on the kitchen floor at my friends house while they rang and rang the intercom. We pretended we weren’t there. We had to sit where we were sure that we couldn’t be seen from any window from the street. The kitchen window had flimsy curtains.
Here we were, two grown up adults with grown up children hiding on the floor in the kitchen. We were meant to be going out. We had to wait until we thought the coast was clear before we could!
That’s what they reduce you to. In the real world, you would just walk out the door and say “leave me alone” and go on your way. It isn’t an option when you still feel your eternity is at stake.
Yea. I tried that after hitting my limit of frustration (except it ended in a screaming match where I told her to fuck off) and the IAS reg went into the bottom of her “pocket of tricks,” wrote a bogus KR on me prompting the MAA to call me in. It got worse but that’s the ultimate lesson in this church, isn’t it? “It’s always worse than you think.”
I think answering the door with a 12 gauge, double barrel shot gun might give them the idea they’re not really welcome. But, hey, that’s just me!
I had a remarkably similar thing happen to me some years ago, they must have spent at least half an hour ringing my intercom before they finally went away, the thing is they were pretty certain I was there but it was a top floor apartment so no way of getting in unless I let them into the building.
These days I’d have no hesitation about calling the police claiming harassment.
Same thing happened to me and also to a couple I know. I had to hide in a certain place at my house. They came around to the backyard through a gate and looked in every window. And also my friend was gone one day, they came to her house and walked all around the house jumping up to see in the windows. The neighbor told her about it . She told the neighbor if that ever happens again call the police on them. Then she told the IAS later that her neighbor said there were people jumping up to look in and that she would call the police if that ever happened again. It never happened again.
Good for you, Cindy! But, again, opening the door with a shotgun usually is enough. If they still don’t leave, you cock the shotgun. Believe, the sound of that will have them pooping in their pants.
Hi Dawn,Your post was so true. Yours and Valeries’s post remind me of 1980-82. I had blown Sea Org in late 78.After Walter and I married we lived in a very nice basement apartment at his parents house in Beacon Hill. The Boston GO minders were forever calling and hanging up and ringing their door bell.One time they showed up dressed to the nines in sharp suits and those damn loafers, my Mom in law was clueless and nearly invited them all in for coffee! That would have been cute! The funny point is that our entrance was down some steps,a locked gate for us and thru a tunnel leading into the courtyard. The GOers never found it in over two years! So much for the great OT powers over mest! Love, Ann.
Whoever writes these is a genius.
Thank you Jonathan but I’m not sure that’s a good thing anymore. They’re selling Genius Status at the UK Ideal Org now.
So much for the term “Genius” now. It’s lost its luster….
Cruel! You can not leave us hanging like this!
I NEED TO KNOW NOW, RB!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does she slap the shit out of each of them????
Please make this a to be continued next Friday. Please Please please; can’t wIt to see what happens next!
You can’t leave it there! What happens?
Let’s see here:
1) Karen gets up, walks out into the room and delivers a few pounds of whoop ass onto the heads of the lurkers. Meanwhile hubby has shit his pants and is summoned to the MAAs office.
2) MAAs go to work on hubby who either is a neutered male and caves or grows a pair and tells the cherch to stick it.
3) Meanwhile, Karen moves on and creates a life worth living while actively posting on Mike and Tony’s blogs and helping others to wake up and say fuck you to the over reaching random acts of stupidity more commonly known as the Cult of $cientology.
That’s it Cooper , that is the simlicity and the complexity of it. Pathetic.
RB, your drawings are getting better and better. Thank you.
simplicity…
Perhaps he feels that he is not up to the task of delivering the proper response and decided that Karen could do it.
One thing I learned during infantry basic training at Fort Benning was to keep my temper during a premature awakening.
Terrific story of another couple in sync about being fed up with the hamster wheel of theft that is Scientology.
But let us pause for a moment to note, with weary astonishment, that showing up at your door in the middle of the night to beg/demand more money is a normal and accepted practice in the church of scamatology.
…and if you complain about it you just might be a disaffected, potentially esspee, out-ethics scumbag who is associating with bitter defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet.
Hi Regraded Being, Oh I love cliffhangers. I always come back for more.You are a shining star and you motivate me to do and be better each week.?? Ann.
Hi hgc10, You are so right! The fangs on the regges/recoverers come out at night!! Love, Ann.
love you and the hearts, StarChild.
You are making the planet safer and, yes,
Starlight gives the place a nice shimmer,
rather golden.
Keep on keeping ON (speaking the truth)
=Mark
Hi mark marko, I thank you with much respect. ?Ann.
Hi LDW, I love saying what you posted and I am very proud to be a bitter, disaffected, out-ethics scumbag consorting with all you defrocked apostates on the fringes of the Internet. Would not want to be with anyone else but y’all.( I know from Boston Mass & I love saying y’all.It covers all bases.Love, Ann.
Hi Ann – Speaking of defrocked apostates, I’ve carried my “Minister’s Certificate” around with misc. papers for all these years (30+). I dragged it out of a box in the attic last week and a friend of mine who is a good artist is going to red letter it CANCELLED-APOSTATE. I’ll frame it and it might look good somewhere out in the garage.
Hi Richard D, Very good to see your post I had a bunch of certs I could not leave without bringing attention to myself. Wish I could decorate the powder room with them now. Love, Ann.
Hi Richard D, I lost track of your post for a moment. I think your Cert would look absolutely fabulous framed in all it’s cos glory. I wish I had taken all my certs and done the same as you. Unfortunately the check out situation from the Hollywood Inn with Guardians’ Office Intel on my tail 24/7,was such that I had to travel light.Love, Ann.
“The hamster wheel of theft that is Scientology.” That is the most perfectly put analogy for $cientology ever.
Next story idea for RB: two scientologists conversing about their progress on the bridge….scene pulls back to reveal that they are actually running together in a giant hamster wheel, as $$$ falls out of their pockets…the scene pulls out wider to reveal a number of pallid, underfed and sleepless SeaOrg staff standing beneath the giant hamster wheel, stooping down to pick up the cash and put it in baskets on their backs, like former cotton picking slaves…
(Or just replace the Hamster Wheel with the Running around the pole exercise Purification Rundown at flag, with the same cotton pickers collecting $$$ that streams out of the pockets of the runners…same idea)
Whao! Now that’s a post! I can even see the hamster wheel! Very well done, Bruce! As a never-in, you do seem to have a knack for hitting the nail on the head.