RB had another commitment this week, but will be back again next Friday.
A special treat for today — the FIRST Regraded Being cartoon from October 2014. At the time, I noted that I hoped it might become a regular feature. Little did I know we would enjoy RB weekly for the next 5+ years, and they are still coming. It is incredible how timeless these cartoons are. Nothing ever really changes in scientology.
And note the signs on the buildings in the background. Classic RB….
unelectedfloofgoofer says
Joe looks a bit like a vampire victim in this comic. That never ends well.
Skyler says
“Nothing ever changes … ” ??
Sorry Mike. But I must disagree with you once again. There is one thing that will be changing and I sure do hope it will be changing as soon as possible. What is that one thing? You guessed it.
“THE END OF THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL CULT”
will be the one change this planet will welcome with great joy.
James Rosso says
Not gonna happen. Destructive cults may fade away but they rarely die. The Branch Davidians, Aum Shinri Kyo, Heveans’s Gate and The People’s Temple still have a few followers.
If Scientology can avoid a mass-suicide event (and i think it can), then the remaining members will likely be able to hold on to the group’s assets. Controlled by DM of course. My only question here is: what will happen after his death? He is so narcissistic that i’m sure he hasn’t made any plans for that; and so paranoid that he keeps any other members from accumulating any real power or influcence, keeping them on the rpf-go-round. In fact, i wouldn’t be surprised if the control defaults to whoever happened to be in a position of power when he happens to kick off. A real-life equivalent of the notorious ‘musical chairs’ event he inflicted on his staff, with his death being the music stopping. That’d be ironic.
Balletlady says
Add to that FLDS…..STILL EXIST……the followers still believe that Jeffs is the prophet & they obey him without question….75+ “wives” ….& numerous children.
Male children TOSSED OUT to eliminate competition for the YOUNG GIRLS promised to OLD MEN as future wives in marriage A man has multiple wives & multiple children from these females.
Jeffs himself married a 12 year old…the consummation of his marriage (rape) was witness by at least a dozen females & RECORDED & played in Court….how sick is that.
They still have multiple wives…thought NOT LEGALLY MARRIED with NO marital certificate, they are “celestial/spiritual marriages” …..STILL deemed LEGAL by the MEN of this cult.
Warren Jeffs is STILL running the show from his prison Cell which beat the HELL out of me….HOW is he permitted telephone calls, visits from his friends/family….the WIVES as well who supposedly smuggle items in.
Jeffs is STILL the Prophet as much as David M is STILL “the prophet” it will never end…EVIL DOES EXIST.
James Rosso says
Yeah, i’d say that pretty well describes the actual purpose of polygamy in mormonism. It was never about a shortage of men (in the wild west? are you kidding!?). It was always about old leches getting their dicks wet and competition/one upmanship (how many wives do YOU have, elder?). Which would be fine if consent was freely given all around, but it’s not. Hell, consent isn’t even a concept in mormonism. Or christianity. Or any of the religions of abraham for that matter. So it’s no wonder that horrific abuse abounds.
The thing that makes Scientology different than the FLDS mormons is that every FLDS man aspires to be an abusive cult leader (or they leave). In Scientology, that’s just one man. Der dwarfenfuhrer.
Balletlady says
Add to it their founder’s “belief” that men have to have so many wives in order to “get into Heaven”….and the drilled in the head belief that its the same for women.
Disgusting that 12 & 13 year old females are given to “loyal men” who suck ass to be in the “inner sanctum” of the leader’s consideration & ONLY AFTER Jeffs perverted self choices of the youngest freshest & prettiest females for himself with the remaining not so pretties assigned to his old aged loyalist.
Jeffs after his father’s death reassigned ALL of his father’s wives to HIMSELF. The more women to have sex with…along with “a revelation tells me I am to marry your 10 year old”…..
He still runs the show & our government ALLOWS it. He’s convicted…he should be given a NO CONTACT ORDER WITH ANYONE. No calls, no letters, no visits…NOTHING. He should have been assigned to “General Population” where the inmates KNOW HOW to “take care of child pedophiles”.
I told the tale of a young women we tried to help when I was with CPS….she was just 18…we did everything we could for her…she could not deal with “life on the outside” & making decisions for herself.
She went back to be then “hidden away elsewhere & then assigned as a bride to a man in his 50’s & pregnant immediately”……THEY taught her a lesson about disobedience.
Jutta Kuhn says
Sickening , kults rape children . Just found out another of my Flag Land friends committed suicide .After all these years …RIP
Balletlady says
I am so very sorry to hear that horrible news. So very sad as I’ve lost a younger brother to suicide as well. BOTH my brothers had problems their entire lives, & my parents couldn’t handle it so they basically “exited” all our lives when we became adults so to speak.
To feel that death is your ONLY option, that life has become so unbearable & intolerable that to commit suicide is the answer to escape the pain they feel…yet…..in their minds they don’t think about the OTHERS they leave behind to deal with the loss & grief & sadness we feel. Sometimes there are NO answers as to why therapy, a medication, love & support didn’t help them.
It’s unfathomable at best, to know that person is gone forever leaving behind those who truly cared for & loved them. We can only pray that in death they find the peace they could NOT find during their lifetime on Earth.
I am keeping you in my thoughts & prayers…….my deepest sympathy my friend.
John Doe says
One of the last times I found myself on LRH Way, was some kind of event I don’t remember what.
An IAS Reg approached me to invite me to a special confidential briefing. Of course I didn’t bite and I said I wanted to hang out and talk to people. (how dilettante!)
He got a bit more insistent, and I kept resisting. I don’t remember his name but he resembled quite a bit that actor Forest Whitaker.
I finally turned to him and said, “Look. I don’t go up to my boss and tell him, ‘hey you know I’m trying to buy a house so I need a 40% raise so I can buy my building and then renovate it’, nor do I say, ‘hey boss, I need to get a bunch of books in my home library so can I get an extra $1500 this week?’ No, I cover all that shit out of my paycheck. And you know, getting up the bridge ain’t cheap, so why can’t all these books and buildings come out of the donations that we pay?”
Well, IAS Forest kinda lost his TRs and sputtered some response about all the fundraising being a “backlog” (funny how backlogs keep happening all the time, from buildings to filing paper file folders).
Anyway, IAS Forest followed up with some veiled threat about needing to spend his time with people who were of high responsibility and help oriented, and he gave me one last shot of stink-eye and moved on.
I felt pissed, but really, I was just about out of fucks to give with Scientology’s bullshit, so I got over it, and continued talking to people.
Skyler says
Well done, John. Most people are unable to find any way to resist these demons.
Karen de la Carriere says
Friday evening laughter. Cartoon.
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Me says
I have learned to be open and honest with my life. I have learned over the years what Scientology really is…. but I still had a big desire to reach the goals they presented me.
One day I was contactected by someone and it recindendled the goal that I had all along.l was honest about my connections with people against the church, but I didn’t care. I felt I could really reach the goals that I had set long ago. But, of course, I was told otherwise.
After many days of ethics, I was declared a suppressive… of course after they got a good chuck of money from me.
Believe it or not, I was glad I went through this.
Some may say I am am an wrong… and you would be right. I feel stupid sometimes.
Most of all, I am cut away from a group that doesn’t feel the same as I do. They have principles that I don’t believe it.
I am alive and well… and living in gratitude every day.
Mary Kahn says
The background signs are priceless and yes, still apply today.
Loosing my Religion says
The ideal orgs and IAS are two “products” that DM has created and enforced to solve problems.
These problems were all self generated by the cult. These solutions haven’t include the correction of the original causes. Thus the true problems he wanted to handle weren’t never really solved but instead, he just launched new games. But the underlying cause were and are still there. This has created an avalanche of new situations.
The reduction of the members to less than 20.000 worldwide and the persistent bad PR of the cult are good examples of these “results”.
Hey DM, the ego is a ugly and vicious beast and the bridge make it just more stronger.
PeaceMaker says
Loosing, I think the decline of the CofS was inevitable, and DM has just been trying to hold the organization together as much as he can. If you look at other, similar groups that also flourished during Scientology’s heyday at the peak of the baby boom, most have declined even more dramatically or vanished entirely.
Scientology rode a one-time demographic phenomenon, combined with social conditions that resulted in the huge surge of young people seeking out alternative philosophies and organizations – or even draft exemptions as CofS “ministers.” Plus Scientology’s approach is hopelessly dated, and no longer attractive, left behind by everything from advances in science and medicine that provide more effective treatment for psychological issues, to the emergence of popular forms of yoga and meditation as holistic approaches.
As I’ve written before, I think there is ample evidence that auditing, while seeming beneficial to some, is based on techniques that have proven to be inherently dangerous for a minority of people and thus inevitably result in descent into psychosis and even violence for some. After a string of cases including most infamously Lisa McPherson and Ellie Perkins, Miscavige probably realized that in a modern media environment where Scientology could no longer sweep such incidents under the rug as it previously had (such as the murders of Sharp and Gaul, and of Diane Colletto in front of Marty Rathbun), the only solution was to crack down on and limit the delivery of auditing, and focus on other “services” and income streams instead.
I also think that Miscavige’s totalitarian approach to running the CofS is what has kept it together as much as it has. The repressive implementation of “disconnection,” in particular, has probably done a lot to bolster membership against defections that would otherwise have occurred.
Aquamarine says
Peacemaker,
I was one of the people for whom auditing and training were beneficial.
Perhaps, because I was never staff of SO, but only public, I’m not wholly qualified to opine, but as a public, from the viewpoint of someone who was 26 years a public Scientologist, it seems to me that if there had been no IAS and no Ideal Org Program, and I might add no GAT I or GAT II – if my org had just trained auditors and delivered basic courses and audited people – oh, and with no high pressure Birthday Game – just trained, audited, handled the person in front of them with care and attention, brought in new public the old fashioned way, gentling things along, – if they had just kept doing “the usual”, I think the Church of Scientology might have lasted and grown.
I’ve always thought this way.
Maybe it wouldn’t have grown hugely but I think there could have been a niche created for it.
From my perspective as a public, what spoiled things – apart from the IAS and the Ideal Org scam – was the pressure, the rushrushrush gotta gotta gotta by 2PM crap.
I found that a huge turn off which had a deleterious effect on the help I was getting.
Real help should always be given largely at the PACE and of the person being helped. Not forced because of data in KSW, not pressed upon the helpEE because the helpER has a statistic to maintain…In brief, and, perhaps I’m still naive after all these many years, but in brief I still believe that if the HELP aspect – which was, after all, the stated PURPOSE of Scientology – if this help aspect had been more emphasized and the rest far more DE-emphasized, I think it would have caught on, and gradually acquired a respectable, solid, if modest following. And again, I could be wrong. I could be very wrong. I don’t have the perspective that a former staff member would have. Maybe, very possibly, having only been a public, I was, as such, in a bubble. There is a great deal that I did not see or experience. I can only say that auditing and training were helpful to me. I liked both, and tolerated the rest because I liked the auditing and training. And I never really understood WHY the org, my org, couldn’t just FOCUS on auditing and training, on delivering these services instead of annoying and bothering and DRAINING us financially with the other stuff. A very simplistic viewpoint, certainly, from someone who was never staff, but, truthfully, I still hold it!
Aquamarine says
Oh, and I forgot to mention the EVENTS. The constant, boring, burdensome, loooong events and the intense pressure and continual nagging phone calls to attend them. In my perfect Scientology scenario, these would have to be eliminated 🙂 And while I’m at it, get rid of the Sea Org too, because, really, why did we need them? Hmmm…this is getting complicated and I thought it was simple…actually, its not. Pandora’s Box…what else is going to jump out? Probably a lot more so I’ll stop now 🙂
Skyler says
Aqua,
I’m quite certain you must have considered changing your phone number and getting an unlisted number to stop those phone calls? But I ask because I have never before heard anyone talk about the consequences of doing that. I would imagine that a bunch of goons would just show up at your door and bang long and hard until you answered and gave them your new number.
But I’d still be interested to hear from anyone who tried that to learn what happened.
Aquamarine says
You’d be right about that, Skyler. Not only did I change my number, I had 2 separate phones, one for everything Scientology-related, and the other for – everything else.
All Scientology calls would come to my Scientology number on my Scientology phone, never the cell and number I used for work. All Scientology calls made by me came from this number and phone. $50 per month for 10 years – roughly 6K Of course I could have saved some money and had both numbers on the same cell phone but I didn’t want that. I needed to know that it was entirely separate. Scientology called non stop in those days. It was a relief to know that I could just watch it vibrating in my purse, retrieve the message when it was convenient for ME and respond if/and/or when I felt like it. Kept me sane.
Skyler says
Aqua,
Clever lady!
Good for you. Thanks for the info.
Skyler says
Peacemaker,
You provide some great insight into the reasons why this crazy scam has grown the way it did and lasted as long as it has.
I particularly enjoyed reading how the techniques employed around the beginning were rapidly outmoded by a changing world.
I get a great big belly laugh from remembering how the Big Jerk decided to make himself immortal by decreeing that nothing he ever wrote and nothing he ever said were ever to be changed and were instead to live on forever.
More than anything, that one decision ensured the death of this filthy scam.
People who still think of him as some big genius should reflect on that before continuing to praise the, “big genius”. What a fool!
Loosing my Religion says
PeaceMaker. Thank you. I read all your comments and these are always focused on the right point. I agree as well with this comment. Just one thing.
Personally I am a bit more mercilessly towards DM.
In my opinion he can’t be forgiven or understood.
Scn is a money worship. And has been build even more on money. There is no real free and honest interest for people. You have money? You are OK. You have no reasons to not join staff? You are OK. You have problems? You have no money? Sorry, try reading this book or do conditions. Maybe it a rough view but it is how it works.
The approach that belongs to earlier Dianetics period is perhaps the one that fits more with what people are seeking now. But scn is still stuck on ideal orgs and ias. There is nothing that the cult offers that really fits with current needs.
DM maybe has kept together the cult (in its nature it can’t survive more than that) but also speeded up its end not listening to the people instead to just listen his ego.
Jutta Kuhn says
Dear gentleman , I hope you don’t have a daughter who is still in I was in Scientology in the 70 s . Not my choice ! Went to Delphian in Oregon.
Met Chick Corea ,Stanley Clark etc . They still affect my life , being raped as a child and then being told you pulled it it ? WTF
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
No shit, LMR, for a never in you seem to dig the situation. very astutely. (astutely is a word that I have never used before; I hope I got it right. My former religion; i.e. scientology has been ” loosed” onto the people of this planet for about 66 years now. I spent an average of 14 hours a day 350 days a year working to ensure that COMMAND INTENTION held dominion over all. (Like the “Red Death of Edgar Allen Poe). I am certain that the “Red Death, was not nearly as deadly as the pandemic of the cult who promised immortality. And for the many of you that say that they do not deliver what they promise, I can only say that they gave me immortality. As they say, the definitions of words are key: (from KTL) the prefix “im” meaning not and the root ” mortality” meaning able to die.
They made me unable to die the same way that they made a number of my friends ( I use the term ” friends loosely since I was informed by the Secutity Clearance I/C West US that ex- SO members do not jave friends) immortal. (Continued).
LoosingMyReligion says
Bill thanks. Just one note. I have been in for more that 15 years. And I was in the SO for most of that time. This is why I can look astutely but actually I am just a good observer and I know what I have seen.
My personal experience in the SO about friendship is that one makes friends but very few are real friends. Most of the others are mates that when your condition toward the group is low or some exec see you unfriendly they easily turn their back and let you alone.
You say ‘to be cotinued’. Okay!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
LMR: I said ” to be continued) because when I make a longer comment I sometimes break it into 2 parts as otherwise it often disappears and I have to type it all over again. After 3 or 4 re-types I have sometimes gotten discouraged and said ” To hell with it”. My phone probably doesn’t have enough memory.
LoosingMyReligion says
Bill by the way what happened to Napier?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
He is still there as far as I know.
LoosingMyReligion says
Bill thanks and received.
Cindy says
Wow, six years Regraded Being has been regaling us with his wit, satire, and good art. Amazing that in six years he hasn’t run out of material to spoof. I guess that reflects on the subject matter that there is so much to choose from. Thank you, RB!!!!! We love you!!!!! I laugh at all of them but there was one where I actually cried hard. It was the one about disconnection and showed a parent on one side of the door knocking and crying and the SO kid on the other side and the kid was crying too. It made such an impact on me. Keep up the stellar good work RB.
Skyler says
Indeed, Cindy!
Bravo. Bravo. Bravo.
Jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
“Nothing changes in scientology.” except the faces of those who are spouting the tired old lies, and some of THEM have been around for a while.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
There you go, denigrating the Hitler Youth again.
A junior of mine on the Freewinds was actually in the Hitler Youth. Your comment could upset him; if he happens to be still alive; which from my experience there, is highly unlikely.
Heil Miscaviage!
Aquamarine says
Love this.
I asked the same question before I left. Why a bigger building when our voices are echoing in the halls of this little one? That’s exactly how I phrased it, too… “voices echoing”.
And received essentially the same untruthful, really stupid answer as RB’s comic guy did.
Oh, once we have a beautiful, MUCH larger building designed and furnished 100% “the way LRH always wanted” raw public would FLOOD in.
I was told this, straight-faced each time by one or another highly trained, long term staff members. People whose training was unquestioned, whose expertise in Scientology was known, trusted and respected. People who had trained ME.
They believed this nonsense.
I didn’t argue. But this, more than anything, convinced me that something, somewhere, somehow, was very, very seriously wrong in or with this organization.
But I didn’t argue. Didn’t try to persuade with any kind of logic. Even before reading the internet I knew that whatever was keeping people away from our org was not the size or condition of the building. But looking into the faces of these trained people, these people I had known for decades, these people who had trained ME…I knew it was useless to point this out to them. Futile and a waste of time. Something else was going on here, something I didn’t know about. Because this was… INSANE. The Ideal Org Program was insane, and would never work, and the staff who believed it were to that degree insane also.
Quietly, saying nothing to anyone, I began making plans to leave.
And 9 years later, here we are.
And my org is barely surviving. I think there are about 4 people there now, if even that many. In the same building.
And they probably believe that the reason they haven’t expanded is because they’ve been unable to buy and renovate and furnish a huge new building.
Sad.
Glenn says
Hello Aqua,
I had basically the same experience but from a very different perspective.
My org asked me (a public) to review the 3 options the Landlord’s Office gave them. Each one was a new and much larger building than they were currently in. And it was too big already (you had use a phone sometimes to find a staff member). It was rented which allowed the org to escape the huge costs of maintenance (new roof, replace all heating and air conditioning units, electrical repairs, etc, etc, etc. so I had to consider all that if they purchased a building.
The 3 places that’d been recommended to them were 2 to 3 times bigger and even had gardens around that would demand maintenance. And each building was planned to be purchased so ALL maintenance costs would have to be assumed by the org now!
I was told they had no choice but to purchase one of the 3 places. Staying in the current one wasn’t an option. I wondered how the org, which was a legally separate corporate entity and was only licensed by the international church to allow its use of the tech could be so controlled on real estate choices? I mentioned that to the DSA and only got a sad face reply. She “disappeared” a couple years later so I think she was tossed out.
In the end the org bought the largest of the 3 places. This was around the time I had begun to walk away so I only got to visit the new monstrosity a time or tow. Staff population was the same (around 15) so voices echoed in the halls and phones still were used to find or contact them.
I received numerous bulk emails in the years following and many of them requested help from members for mowing the lawns and maintaining the gardens. I wonder when such emails will ask for help replacing the roof, air conditioning units or putting on a fresh coat of paint on the 400,000 square foot place!
Oh right! They will more likely hit up members for donations instead. Because, sucking money from the pockets of members is what this cult is all about isn’t it?!?!?!
Komodo Dragon says
400,000 square foot building for 40 people at the max??? (including staff.) I imagine that is roughly the size of many Costco buildings. Anyone know if this is a comparable building size?
PeaceMaker says
Komodo, “ideal” buildings seem to be 48,000 square feet minimum, based on what I’ve seen of property records and purchase information – though in discussion that’s often rounded up and referred to as a 50,000 square foot standard. A couple of local orgs in larger cities are 10,000 or more square feet larger than that, but they’re exceptions. Only some of their major national or international facilities are over 100,000 square feet. I think Glenn may have put an extra zero in his figure.
For comparison, there seems to have been a preference for putting orgs that haven’t gone ideal in around 10,000 square foot spaces – more realistic, though still probably larger than lot of orgs actually even need at this point. I’ve found some of the small and failing ones in spaces of around 5,000 square feet, and some are or may have been in even tinier spaces – when they’re just renting part of a building, it’s sometimes hard to figure out how how much of it they have.
Glenn says
That was an estimate of wall space that would require painting.
The floor area of the place was only about 65,000 sf. About 1/2rd of the average Costco store. Still huge if one considers the average home is about 2000 sf. The org would be equivalent to about 32 houses!
Echoing halls for sure.
PeaceMaker says
Glenn, and if you consider that 30 or fewer households probably account for the active membership and staff of most orgs these days, many have sacrificed so that the CofS can have more empty space, than they actually have to live in themselves. They have been led to compromise their own interests, including the ability to own a home of their own with financial equity in it.
p.s. Thanks for clarifying the actual floorplan square footage – and for all the information and experience you share.
Glenn says
Reminds me of the sad story of one member who suffered terribly. After taking out loans on a house so as to donate for more very expensive services the bank foreclosed and kicked the member out. The member had lost their job along with a family member who had been sharing the house and loan payment. In the end the member was left with nothing but a car so moved into it.
Gordon Weir says
I never tire of seeing the top of the tiny head barely making it above the podium.
Aquamarine says
Yes, me too!
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey, Gordon. I know we’re friends. But, can you stop with the ‘tiny head’!!! I get it all the time!
Gordon Weir says
Takes one to be one!😃😃😃
Old Surfer Dude says
Guess I am one!
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Agreement, the perfect representation of “The Kid”. Love the double-triangle over the dollar sign insignia; SO perfectly captures the organization’s true purpose.
BKmole says
Wow, nothing has changed in the cult. With no change atrophy sets in big time. RB has been doing a public service for quite awhile now. Thank you. And thank you Mike for posting the strip. It is the only thing like this anywhere. It’s made a lot of people LOL.
OldBikerDude says
Childanon.
So chilling!!
otherles says
I once wrote that only the Hitler Youth could have a sillier uniform.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
There you go, denigrating the Hitler Youth again.
A junior of mine on the Freewinds was actually in the Hitler Youth. Your comment could upset him; if he happens to be still alive; which from my experience there, is highly unlikely.
Heil Miscaviage!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
Yes, Otherles, the Hitler Youth uniforms were pretty silly. When I was doing the new Pro Trs course I had to do a Clay Representation of Control. It took a long time to come up with it.
Finally I made in clay a train with a man and a woman and myself standing there with my machine gun in my uniform with the twin lightning bolts and the deaths-head cap of the Waffen SS. I was obviouly motioning to them to get on the train. But nothing happened, there was no blow of the incident. The sup came over and asked me if there was anything more. I thought for a moment and I thought ” Shit!”.
I added 2 little children to the scene and the whole thing blew.
I do not think that even you would find that uniform silly. I sure did not.
Heil Miscaviage!
George White says
Hubbard’s comments about “a big thetan” at one time sent me into research mode. Hubbard’s views on the origin of the universe always contained contradictions. On the “Time Track of Theta” tapes he made the bold statement that a great mass of theta existed before creation. This is already a contradiction since theta has no mass. At any rate, chunks of theta break off and some are larger than others. Hence big thetans. This is so ignorant it is actually laughable. When I went to a briefing to donate for the Freewinds, they handed me a confidential Hubbard policy which stated that thetans have the power of the sun. When I switched to Buddhism, they produced a reference that said “Buddhists resided in Black Holes”. On OT VIII Hubbard claimed to be Buddha so he existed in a “Black Hole”? This is all total nonsense from Hubbard’s twelve year old mind.
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
George, I’m not confident that Hubbard ever progressed beyond a 12-year-old mental age. Certainly his imagination, as represented by his fiction writings, didn’t progress past that, never mind that by that point he’d been the sperm donor for 9 offspring, IIRC.
(I can’t in good conscience call him a “father”.)
George White says
I think he was stuck at twelve.
PeaceMaker says
Jere, I’d peg Hubbard at late teens – the point at which heady conversations about life’s theoretical possibilities are part of a stage of development, and a certain number are driven by further curiosity to dabble in the occult and supposed mind-expanding drugs as well. I remember that phase of life well, which continued into my college years, when I did my own reading into subjects like human potential and the occult (including running across Aleister Crowley, though he wasn’t my cup of tea), and learned meditation and self hypnosis; I think Scientology attracted a lot of people who were enticed by the idea of a single ‘source’ that appeared to satisfy longings and provide answers.
Loosing my Religion says
Great one. Nothing changed. Already when I was in I often wondered how a group with the tech to save the entire universe couldn’t pay electricity or rent.
Most of the orgs had a bills summary (list of expired debts by date) long a few pages.
It was so unreal to me to see such paradoxes. I thought many time that we were kidding around. Math was telling that it would have requested several centuries. And math is always right.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
LMR:
Electricity or rent? On the Freewinds in the early 90’s we had trouble affording water.
When we would come into port the Port Authorities always asked the Port Captain if we would be taking on fuel and water. As we always took on water in Curacao they would send the Water Man to the ship to turn on the water. My ex- wife used to be one of the persons who put out the water hoses. Then she would have to tell the water man to wait until the Purchase Order was approved before he turned on the water thereby announcing to the Port Authorities that we were broke.
After she had the gall to tell them that she wanted to be with her dying husband she could not even go on the dock to set up the hoses without a Security Guard.
Heil Napier!
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Bill, That was/is just ANOTHER example of the unintended consequences of following Hubbard’s policies, and a fairly minor one at that. Almost always, he ignored that he ARC-X the authorities of every country he operated in: “forgetting” debts he owed, bad or forged checks he passed, lying at every turn— even when it served no discernible purpose— abandoning his wives wherever they happened to be at the time, breaking every law that he didn’t like, or simply acting like a spoiled, entitled child. Despite his declarations, he never wanted anyone but him to benefit from scientology.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Jere: There is actually an FO which says that fuel and water can be taken on without a PO.
Aquamarine says
“Heil Napier”.
Yes, he was a piece of work. Quite full of himself in his dress whites as I recall.
First time I was on the Freewinds I met him as I was coming down the stairs, he up the stairs.
He stops a few feet below me and says hello there and who are you, etc., chats me up, remaining below me on the stairs…it was odd…I felt somewhat uncomfortable, and I’m not a woman who believes a man is making a pass just because he flirts a little. I think it was because he stayed 3 steps below me, looking up at me while we talked instead of coming up to the same step.
He asked my name, where I was from, what course I was on, was I coming to some dinner he was hosting in the Horizon Room, I forget the name of the thing. I answered each of his questions until, mercifully, someone on the landing below, some Sea Ogre barked out, “Excuse me, Sir!” at which he turned away and fled back down the stairs, saying something over his shoulder to the effect that it was nice to meet me and that he’d see me around.
He came across as believing himself to be God’s gift to Scientology, the Freewinds, the Caribbean and all unmarried women. I wasn’t attracted to him. He wasn’t my type. I like a sort of nerdy, honest, earnest type of man 🙂 Seriously. Anyway, I didn’t go to that Captain’s dinner thing. Instead I CSW’d to go onshore. Did a little shopping, walked around. Didn’t see him again for the rest of my time on the ship.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
Aqua: I have a story that bears this out.
After 7 years of seeing no member of my family I was supposed to go to my parents 50th wedding anniversary dinner.
After a very long (months) cycle of getting my CSW stalled going nowhere I wrote reports to the RTC Rep.
Captain Napier screamed at me that in 15 years in the SO, no-one had talked to him like that. I believe he was refering to the RTC Rep.
Pointing to his Captains shoulder boards he screamed at the top of his lungs: I AM THE ONLY RIGHT ARM CAPTAIN IN THE SEA ORG AND NO-ONE CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO” Well maybe one person could (DM) BUT HE WOULD NEVER DO IT!
jere Lull (39 years recovering) says
Bill Straass observed:
“Electricity or rent? On the Freewinds in the early 90’s we had trouble affording water.”
And part of that is that water on some islands is in short supply, thus expen$ive;$.05 / gallon in the Virgin islands, for instance. A small boat with 10 onboard could go through hundreds of gallons a week, I found out when I skippered a 50′ chartered boat for a week.
LoosingMyReligion says
Bill. Thank you very much. Water??? Damn this is even worst than what I never thought. I always had the idea thatvthe ship was some kind of rich place.
Mmmmh.. I got a wrong idea. Laughing!