That was one hell of a loaded question. “Should a group that wants to help eradicate the coronavirus be helped?” The obvious answer is “yes,” which means ‘give us money.’
However, a little bit of thought will result in the theoretically correct answer being “No: whether they deserve a donation or not depends on how effective their methods for eradicating the coronavirus are;” which leads to the follow up question “do you think scientology is effective at eradicating the coronavirus?” And you circle back to ‘therefore give us money’ if you say yes. If you say ‘no’ though, you’re in for a very expensive sec-check until you say yes. Either way, you lose money. VERY Scientology!
He got off easy. At least she indicated the F/N. I expected her to indicate a dirty needle or Rockslam so she could say he was withholding or had an evil intention so as to get more money. But then, that’s me
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
It’s hard to understand how you guys can be so dumb as to fall again and again for this shit.
Oh, I just remembered: When I was all but dead, I was still defending the cult’s Miscaviage given right to kill me. You may be dumb; but at least you are still alive.
I guess it doesn’t matter right now, as the Gov. of California closed down places of worship again; however, does the ‘no singing’ declaration in Calif. also extend to Scientology’s use of the cans? Has Gov. New-whatever declared no auditing yet until Coronavirus is over? It would seem ‘In-Reality’ with his other order for ‘No Singing’ at church.
It’s not true that it’s always all about the money!
Well, wait…
No, it really is always all about money.
I remember my FSM explaining to me people have “buttons” about money. That was about twenty years before he left the cult and refused to take anymore calls.
O/T. Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad yet again promotes the anti-Semitic book series “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews.”
NOTE: My Twitter account has been suspended and I am waiting to hear back from Twitter. Thus, if you want people to know about the news that I publish, for now you will have to refer people to the above links.
Yea. Been there. Done that. Except it was for a lot more than $50 plus five hours of regges playing leap frog on our psyches til my husband and I cried uncle. It’s amazing how much one will give up when you just want it to stop.
I will never understand how so many former and current Scientologists adamantly claim there is ‘no brainwashing in Scientology.’
Call it by whatever name you wish, it still sounds like brainwashing to me when otherwise good and intelligent people accept (and cooperate with!) bad behavior.
Great RB. Tiffany remembers those regs consumed with little sleep and too much smoking. Laughing.
For what we read around the pandemic is still far from finished. Here in Italy yesterday there was a slight recovery of new cases. And unfortunately it is assumed that in the autumn there will be an important growth of the infections. Furthermore, the latest international researches undoubtedly shows the potential dangerousness of covid 19. It has been said that 9 out of 10 deaths are directly due to the virus, although they had other pathologies, these were not the direct cause.
Dear DM, the planetary bullbait is not finished yet and your orgs will stay closed.
The IAS event? I don’t think you may have much to say but in case what about a webminar?
After Hubbard’s birthday was cancelled at the last minute, and the no-end-in-sight situation, it will be very interesting to see if/how the next big annual events happen. Shouldn’t there have been a “maiden voyage” already?
Grisianfarce. Maiden voyage was supposed to happen in June. Gone.
Next is the IAS event in October. But covid isn’t surrending. They cannot gather people togheter anywhere. The purpose of each event is just money. And people must be there so they can hard sell them.
If DM does an event without audience with the purpose to send a video to their houses it is gonna be pathetic. He hasn’t anything really to report. People at home got back in touch with the real world.
Things are changed.
An event without an audience? Fer Dave that would be like fishin without a rod. No clapping seals to standup, sit down and fight fight fight.
Yo Dave,
Ever think about life without minions to do the standing Os fer ya. Get used to it good buddy. It’s the new normal. Stats trending down ……… permanently! Same way the rest of yer life will be. Time to pop a new cork and pound a few down Dave.
Yo Julian,
If you would get just a little bit of ethics presence going you might be able to help Dave postulate a new course for mankind. After all you have done ya gotta ask …. “Is this the best yer cherch can do?”
Let’s face it dudeamundos, the spiral has beat the crap out of both of you and it’s time to call Ron.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
I hope you are right, Loosing.
I was on the ship for the first 16 years and there was always a MV Anniversary.
It was a shitload of work to get the ship ready. It was even a shitload of work to keep it afloat and running.
I hope that it was not a fire covered up or a major engineering problem such as no AC bad generators or Main Engines. I had to deal with all of them numerous times while I was aboard. The only good thing about that happening is that I would see my friends again soon in the between-lives area.
Bill. Thanks. Usually it happened to be at June. We are in July and no promo has been shown around, orgs are closed and he cant easily fly to the ship. To do what?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
Dave don’t need to fly to the ship. He can just rent a big dive boat or call his buddy Capt Napier to bring the ship close to shore. Hell, I have hauled him and his execs from the shore to das boot at least 25 times. I think that Dave could figure out getting there.
It is getting OFF the ship while still alive that I had trouble with.
Thank you Loosing.
My ( now ex) wife disconnected (I assume because I haven’t seen her in over 5 years) after I told my story. Maybe she has seen my declare; I haven’t.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this).says
In my not so humble opinion, I fear (or do I?) that there has either been a fire or major mechanical malfunction which makes it impossible to put on the MV. Of course you would never hear that from DM.
The only real question is how I became so unhumble. Well when you are called upon to do mechanical feats that even the manufacturer’s reps would not attempt, and somehow you pull it off (don’t ask me how) and you are still able to talk about it over 18 years after the only Right Arm Captain in the Sea Organization had pronounced you dead, you would not be very humble either. Whether this is good or bsd I do not know.
To: Loosing my religion
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: closing orgs
I need you to understand one thing: ONLY MYSELF AND OSA DECIDE WHEN ORGS CLOSE AND FOR HOW LONG! These wog politicians have no say over our operations since they lack the necessary tech to make such decisions. Only we have that tech. So don’t let Covid-19 bother you(as we have a tech for that, too!) and come on in to your nearest Ideal Org so that you can make those IAS donations that will send you up the Bridge!
ML
Dave
To: David Miscavige COB RTC
From: Alcoboy
Re: are you stupid?
Still pulling it out of your ass, huh?
And by the way, Loosing my Religion is an SP like me. Why are you inviting him to go to an org?
Dumbass!
You know what? As you said it is possible that soon he is gonna come up with some “booming” stuff and he could even launch some amnesty to recover someone into the emptied cult ranks.
Dear DM: The “planetary bullbait” will continue in many guises until you fold your tents and properly slink away. Anonymous and the other enemies you created will not forgive or forget, remember.
James Rosso says
That was one hell of a loaded question. “Should a group that wants to help eradicate the coronavirus be helped?” The obvious answer is “yes,” which means ‘give us money.’
However, a little bit of thought will result in the theoretically correct answer being “No: whether they deserve a donation or not depends on how effective their methods for eradicating the coronavirus are;” which leads to the follow up question “do you think scientology is effective at eradicating the coronavirus?” And you circle back to ‘therefore give us money’ if you say yes. If you say ‘no’ though, you’re in for a very expensive sec-check until you say yes. Either way, you lose money. VERY Scientology!
OmegaPaladin says
Yeah, if a group of psychiatrists pledged to fight coronavirus, I assume SCN would tell them to die in a fire.
Peggy L says
So bottom line – scientology = 24/7 regging.
Peggy L says
scientology the big shop of all kinds of horrors led by the little potted plant DM = Feed Me Reggs!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
He got off easy. At least she indicated the F/N. I expected her to indicate a dirty needle or Rockslam so she could say he was withholding or had an evil intention so as to get more money. But then, that’s me
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
It’s hard to understand how you guys can be so dumb as to fall again and again for this shit.
Oh, I just remembered: When I was all but dead, I was still defending the cult’s Miscaviage given right to kill me. You may be dumb; but at least you are still alive.
Golden Era Parachute says
Good ol’ schlum Rick.
I guess it doesn’t matter right now, as the Gov. of California closed down places of worship again; however, does the ‘no singing’ declaration in Calif. also extend to Scientology’s use of the cans? Has Gov. New-whatever declared no auditing yet until Coronavirus is over? It would seem ‘In-Reality’ with his other order for ‘No Singing’ at church.
Dotey OT says
It’s not true that it’s always all about the money!
Well, wait…
No, it really is always all about money.
I remember my FSM explaining to me people have “buttons” about money. That was about twenty years before he left the cult and refused to take anymore calls.
Jerry Hack says
In Scientology, even when it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.
Loosing my Religion says
Jerry. That’s really a good one.
ISNOINews says
O/T. Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad yet again promotes the anti-Semitic book series “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews.”
ESMB Redux post:
https://exscn2.net/threads/scientology-freedom-medal-winner-nation-of-islam-minister-tony-muhammads-anti-semitic-racist-homophobic-anti-american-etc-statements.52/post-46589
Instagram post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCunk9xp7q1/
Minister Tony Muhammad also says:
“Industry Slavery And Fake Jews Are The “Massa!!””
ESMB Redux post:
https://exscn2.net/threads/scientology-freedom-medal-winner-nation-of-islam-minister-tony-muhammads-anti-semitic-racist-homophobic-anti-american-etc-statements.52/post-46612
Instagram post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCuzwf1pwnd/
NOTE: My Twitter account has been suspended and I am waiting to hear back from Twitter. Thus, if you want people to know about the news that I publish, for now you will have to refer people to the above links.
Take Em Down says
The new definition of “Clearing the Planet” means that the coronavirus has been eradicated.
otherles says
I never smoked, even when I was in the Army.
Mary Kahn says
Yea. Been there. Done that. Except it was for a lot more than $50 plus five hours of regges playing leap frog on our psyches til my husband and I cried uncle. It’s amazing how much one will give up when you just want it to stop.
ammo alamo says
I will never understand how so many former and current Scientologists adamantly claim there is ‘no brainwashing in Scientology.’
Call it by whatever name you wish, it still sounds like brainwashing to me when otherwise good and intelligent people accept (and cooperate with!) bad behavior.
jere Lull (40 years recovering) says
alamo, it could also often be called coercion. After many occurrences, the coercion becomes habit, just a short step from brainwashing, IMO.
Loosing my Religion says
Great RB. Tiffany remembers those regs consumed with little sleep and too much smoking. Laughing.
For what we read around the pandemic is still far from finished. Here in Italy yesterday there was a slight recovery of new cases. And unfortunately it is assumed that in the autumn there will be an important growth of the infections. Furthermore, the latest international researches undoubtedly shows the potential dangerousness of covid 19. It has been said that 9 out of 10 deaths are directly due to the virus, although they had other pathologies, these were not the direct cause.
Dear DM, the planetary bullbait is not finished yet and your orgs will stay closed.
The IAS event? I don’t think you may have much to say but in case what about a webminar?
grisianfarce says
After Hubbard’s birthday was cancelled at the last minute, and the no-end-in-sight situation, it will be very interesting to see if/how the next big annual events happen. Shouldn’t there have been a “maiden voyage” already?
Loosing my Religion says
Grisianfarce. Maiden voyage was supposed to happen in June. Gone.
Next is the IAS event in October. But covid isn’t surrending. They cannot gather people togheter anywhere. The purpose of each event is just money. And people must be there so they can hard sell them.
If DM does an event without audience with the purpose to send a video to their houses it is gonna be pathetic. He hasn’t anything really to report. People at home got back in touch with the real world.
Things are changed.
Newcomer says
An event without an audience? Fer Dave that would be like fishin without a rod. No clapping seals to standup, sit down and fight fight fight.
Yo Dave,
Ever think about life without minions to do the standing Os fer ya. Get used to it good buddy. It’s the new normal. Stats trending down ……… permanently! Same way the rest of yer life will be. Time to pop a new cork and pound a few down Dave.
Yo Julian,
If you would get just a little bit of ethics presence going you might be able to help Dave postulate a new course for mankind. After all you have done ya gotta ask …. “Is this the best yer cherch can do?”
Let’s face it dudeamundos, the spiral has beat the crap out of both of you and it’s time to call Ron.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
I hope you are right, Loosing.
I was on the ship for the first 16 years and there was always a MV Anniversary.
It was a shitload of work to get the ship ready. It was even a shitload of work to keep it afloat and running.
I hope that it was not a fire covered up or a major engineering problem such as no AC bad generators or Main Engines. I had to deal with all of them numerous times while I was aboard. The only good thing about that happening is that I would see my friends again soon in the between-lives area.
LoosingMyReligion says
Bill. Thanks. Usually it happened to be at June. We are in July and no promo has been shown around, orgs are closed and he cant easily fly to the ship. To do what?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
Dave don’t need to fly to the ship. He can just rent a big dive boat or call his buddy Capt Napier to bring the ship close to shore. Hell, I have hauled him and his execs from the shore to das boot at least 25 times. I think that Dave could figure out getting there.
It is getting OFF the ship while still alive that I had trouble with.
LoosingMyReligion says
ABill
it is good you and your wife got out.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Thank you Loosing.
My ( now ex) wife disconnected (I assume because I haven’t seen her in over 5 years) after I told my story. Maybe she has seen my declare; I haven’t.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass ( who else would make a comment like this). says
In my not so humble opinion, I fear (or do I?) that there has either been a fire or major mechanical malfunction which makes it impossible to put on the MV. Of course you would never hear that from DM.
The only real question is how I became so unhumble. Well when you are called upon to do mechanical feats that even the manufacturer’s reps would not attempt, and somehow you pull it off (don’t ask me how) and you are still able to talk about it over 18 years after the only Right Arm Captain in the Sea Organization had pronounced you dead, you would not be very humble either. Whether this is good or bsd I do not know.
Alcoboy says
To: Loosing my religion
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: closing orgs
I need you to understand one thing: ONLY MYSELF AND OSA DECIDE WHEN ORGS CLOSE AND FOR HOW LONG! These wog politicians have no say over our operations since they lack the necessary tech to make such decisions. Only we have that tech. So don’t let Covid-19 bother you(as we have a tech for that, too!) and come on in to your nearest Ideal Org so that you can make those IAS donations that will send you up the Bridge!
ML
Dave
To: David Miscavige COB RTC
From: Alcoboy
Re: are you stupid?
Still pulling it out of your ass, huh?
And by the way, Loosing my Religion is an SP like me. Why are you inviting him to go to an org?
Dumbass!
No Love At All
Alcoboy.
LoosingMyReligion says
To: Alcoboy
From: Loosing my Religion
Thankyou so much my friend.
You know what? As you said it is possible that soon he is gonna come up with some “booming” stuff and he could even launch some amnesty to recover someone into the emptied cult ranks.
jere Lull (40 years recovering) says
Dear DM: The “planetary bullbait” will continue in many guises until you fold your tents and properly slink away. Anonymous and the other enemies you created will not forgive or forget, remember.
LoosingMyReligion says
Jere. Holy words.