Unbelievable that these folks spend all their waking hours assisting this organization yet they have to bring their own toiletries ? Considering the low wage then thats a big chunk of their money just there – I suppose they have to pay for their own laundry detergent to clean their clothes as well. I’m astounded by the selfishness.
Roll your owns
Drum tobacco!
I had not thought about all that for a long time. Early years of being so poor on staff. Roll your own, stuff your own, parcel them out.
I swear. We could do a ten season series with huge ensemble cast showing all the various shared farcical experiences as a public, staff, and SO member.
The episodes depicting:
you’re a class IV/V Org staff member sent to outer org training, now stuck, starving to death and under great duress.
work study
rice and beans
you’re from a SHIT org OUT EXCHANGE – you’re supposed to make it go right from here!
so broke, no time to do laundry, no money to do laundry, don’t have the right clothes, no money or time to buy any.
no comm from home org, cut off, alone, woe!
Make your target DB
or you’re goin home.
Hell, we got farce, drama and total surrealism, jam packed episodes.
If she spends TEN hours in cold rooms next week, she may be able to keep up her regging stats. Hopefully they won’t delay her Cause Resurgence appointment, or things could get very difficult.
I was FSO staff from 79 to 86. To get Christmas Day off we usually had to get the stats up. To get the stats up they cancelled liberties, CSP, Study and Family Time.
Wow, what a team effort, we pulled it off.
Now. to get New Years Day off, we had to do the same thing, only since we took Christmas Day off, there was one less day. So after another week of no study, CSP and Family Time, we could not quite pull it off so did a full day’s production on New Years Day. In the 23 years I was in the SO, I probably went to study 3 or 4 years.
We would have gotten more time off if we had just cancelled Christmas and New Year in the first place.
Affluence Attainment formula “Doing the things that won, not new things untried as yet”
The things that “won” was working or being worked to death. That was a win for me personally; if I had not been pronounced dead by the Captain I really would be dead.
Can you please explain to me how study works ? My understanding is that in the sea org you are given time each day to study which is the exchange for the work you perform. I believe you get a few hours at the start of the day for study and after that you begin to do work. Is study optional ? Do people not fully take up the offer to study and if not why not ? Given the choice of studying or working tedious jobs for long hours i would take the study otherwise you would be adding hours to your days labor.
Years ago when my mother died and I was still a bit of a scn “believer” someone from the sea org called me for the usual requests or for money or to activate me to collect it for them.
When he heard about my mother, he asked me two questions:
1. How are you? (classic PR question) and immediately after, I didn’t even completed my answer
2. So you will receive an inheritance, right?!?
In no time I was already at the top of his list of hot prospects.
Yes but it happened. That person knew me and maybe he thought he could talk with me that way because clearing the planet is above everything. There are many of such stories that are even worst. It’s a money worship.
Loosing my Religion: Yes, indeed. It is a money worship, first and foremost, as voraciously as those gray-skinned shark people LRH put in one of his Planet Earth-in-peril stories. So much of what comprises the group’s tapestry is “hiding in plain sight.” Crunch, crunch, crunch. Chomp, chomp, chomp. Vacuuming in every shred of energy not nailed down. And even then, “Did you bring a hammer? Help me unloose these nails…”
Most religions have their hand out asking their followers for donations. Some will go through your wallet, and demand to look at your taxes to make sure you’re donating 10% (e.g. mormons, many megachurches). A few put a hose into your pocket and suck until they get lint (any prosperity gospel church). And then some like Scientology suck until they get blood and then start pressuring you to sell a kidney.
Loosing my Religion: Absolutely, those little guys, in a conference room, I think they are depicted, attending a meeting. Others wondering, “What happened to… (anything that used to be there)?” ‘Til they realize, these little gray-skinned guys are consuming everything. The hosts for the meeting cannot keep up with their consumption.
Oh, that makes me so angry. These “mindless robots” (to quote the TWERP) are such greedy monsters. He probably got some kind of reward for thinking to ask you about an inheritance.
Thank Xenu you can always count on a cult staff member for the necessary compassion, support, empathy and tact while deeply grieving the death of a loved one!
Aqua yes they are always full of compassion.
To get a stat up they would sell their soul.
A person in their eyes is always just a stat up, money or recruitment.
Yes, its true. All true. Its sad. Sad for them, that they’re that way. Now that I’m out, I look at it that way, that its sad for them – for anyone, actually – to be so fundamentally mercenary.
Aqua you are right it’s really sad. You have been there and you know. It is the only “religion” where the staff see you as a walking stat. And if one cannot end up into some stat or contribute to it, he and his life are just ‘Dev-t’ (developed traffic, unnecessary presence).
Do well.
I wonder if anyone has ever tried the following tactic?
When one of these monsters starts to pressure you for a donation, why not explain that you would love to make a donation but you will not have the money until next June (or whenever) when you get your tax return and ask the creep if they would please loan you the money until then so you can make the donation.
Then, no matter how much they squirm and wriggle and try to get you to increase your credit limit so you can borrow from a bank, just say you will not borrow from a bank because of the heavy interest charges but if the creep will loan you the money (as a personal loan) then you will be glad to make the donation.
By the way, if any of them are ever dumb enough to make you any loan, be sure to spend half the money on necessities first and then donate maybe half the money. After all ….
Skyler, where were you when I could have used this scheme? 🙂
Seriously, though; here’s what would happen if someone said they’d be receiving a tax refund “in June” and would they loan you the money in the interim:
1) They would loan nothing; not a brass farthing, not a plug nickel, not a red cent, and,
2) The phone calls, emails, texts and snail mail letters would increase TEN fold. They’d be on you like ducks on a June bug if you’ll pardon the pun for YOU to “make it go right” to make the donation NOW. They’d be up your you-know-what for YOU to figure out how it could be done immediately, for YOU to think of people who would front the money right away for you to pay back, etc. etc.
Skyler, have you ever met a chocoholic? I used to be one, and can still relapse if I allow my blood sugar to go too low. Someone who can’t eat ONE chocolate cookie or one or two pieces of choc candy because after having tasted ONE, the whole box MUST be eaten? Do you have a concept of this principle?
Ok, now, apply this principle to a staff member who gets the merest WHIFF of a hint that MONEY is DEFINITELY on the horizon for a prospect.
Just like the box of cookies sitting there that can be eaten gradually later; just like the box of candy that is THERE and WILL be eaten, only just not all at once right now – no! No no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no future; there is no past; there is only NOW.
The candy must be eaten NOW.
The money must be donated NOW.
And to that end, you will be inundated with communication. OMG, if they KNOW there will be money coming in…you are finished! Slit your throat. You’re done.
It really is that bad, Skyler!
Love reading your posts, by the way. Its heartening, the way you have no dog in the race, no skin in the game, etc., but yet, you care.
You know, I have always enjoyed conversing with you.
But as far as the current topic under discussion, I must admit thaht I just have nothing to offer. It is real clear that you are absolutely right. My idea was just no good at all in the face of a pack of rabid dogs who get the scent of just about anything.
But there has to be something that can be done to throw these beasts off the track. Problem is, the only things I can think of are extremely illegal. They are all crimes that will get people life in prison – at the very best.
I must resolve myself to the conclusion that Mike and Leah have found the winning approach. By constantly whispering in the ear of the public just how dangerous and cruel this terrible scam treats the world, the best approach is to just let the public “melt away” until absolutely zero people have any interest in getting involved with these monsters.
But it is wonderful to know that someone here (I mean you by the way) has the winning strategy in mind how to defeat these monsters.
Well done, Aqua!
P.S. I am having some problems trying to make posts here. I originally tried to post this 24 hours ago. Pls excuse if it does not get posted.
“But there has to be something that can be done to throw these beasts off the track.”
Sending you a hug, Skyler. It really is marvelous the way you care.
For whatever its worth, here’s what I did back in the day, that worked fairly well and kept me sane:
I had 2 phone numbers and 2 separate flip cell phones.
One cell # and flip phone (the actual device, mind you) was the Scientology – all things Scientology line – any and all Scientology-related calls. There were few texts in those days.
The other number and flip phone was for business, personal and everything else not Scientology-related. THIS was the LINE I LIVED on. This was the number I answered (had to answer always) for business. And then personal calls too of course. I knew all the numbers of everyone who called me personally. So I lived on this phone.
The Scientology phone was mostly shut off with a very friendly and polite voice mail message. Almost never did I answer this phone. But it “rang” all day without me having to hear it. Sometimes when I was feeling evil I would have on vibrate and I’d listen to it buzzing all day while I didn’t pick up.
Every other day or so I’d empty out the messages on the Scientology phone and maybe respond to one or two of them. Then again maybe I wouldn’t.
Many calls were from org people REconfirming me for an event. I was already confirmed but they’d have people calling (and calling and calling and calling) to REconfirm me for the event. (Not only me, btw. They did this with everyone. Incredibly annoying and time wasting but that’s what they would do; confirm, reconfirm, re-reconfirm, etc., etc. True.)
My business was such that I lived on the phone. Now its more texting and email but back then it was still the phone.
If I had allowed it I would have been on the phone all day with Scientologists wanting or needing something. I would have gotten nothing done. I didn’t have a secretary to screen my calls. I did everything myself back then.
The Scientology Only phone cost me $50 per month, beginning a month or so after 9/11/01 and continuing until I left, roughly 10 years later. $600 per month X 10 =$6000.
Well worth it. I attribute no small measure of my continued mental and physical health to having had all Scientology calls shunted to that separate line AND phone.
I could have had 2 numbers on the same flip phone but I didn’t want that.
Psychologically, I wanted – NEEDED to know that the other number was PHYSICALLY separate from the number I lived on. I kept it with me, mostly shut off, but sometimes buzzing angrily and continually in my purse. Whether or not it was on depended upon my mood. Mostly it was off and I heard nothing.
That was my solution to unending phone calls. After I left I experienced no small pleasure in cancelling that phone account!
Skyler23says
Hey Aqua, You have a wonderfully inventive mind.
Good for you. I really enjoyed hearing your technique and I’d love to hear any more techniques you have used for converting these monsters into the turkeys they really are.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straasssays
Loosing:
Fortunately for me by the time I got my inheritance, I had already been declared and dead-filed (not a joke). The cult never got a penny of it. I had already paid them in blood and sweat (no tears as I have not been able to cry for 30 years).
“…I was always able to mooch important stuff like coffee and cigarettes from the Public.”
That one brings back some memories. I was stuck at Flag back in the early 80s after being sent there as a staff member as a result of the mission holders massacre when every mission was ordered to do so by the ‘finance police’. The smokers amongst us were rolling their own because the couldn’t afford a pack of smokes. I had an auditor who brought habit back to the mission with him. He had this elaborate ritual of grinding coffee beans, brewing very strong coffee and rolling his Top tobacco in zig-zags. Nothing wrong with this but he did it to great excess and I never saw him eat anything very healthy. Probably couldn’t afford to, no full time staff could. He died at a very young age as a result of a heart attack. RIP Bob.
Neglect of staff health is one of the SO and COS’s stupidest operating bases. Crappy food (low quality and nutritionally deficient and in some cases downright harmful), insufficient access to nutritional supplements, enforced insufficient sleep and insufficient time to exercise, subjecting staff to constant unrelenting stress, and a culture of make wrong for physical problems and need for medical care which discourages staff from standing up for their own care all add up to staff who are not in good shape starting at too young an age and hence inefficient or deficient in performance, and who often suffer from onset of ultimately debilitating or fatal conditions at too young an age. SO and COS destroys its staff and impairs their performance from the get go. So of course their organizations suck in their performance.
I arrived on the Freewinds on the day the cult took possession . (Sept 15, 1986).
Almost everyone aboard rolled their own cigarettes. As our home port was Curacao in the Netherland Antilles, we smoked mainly Sampson Halfzware tobacco.
I was also rolling my own. A few days after I got on the ship a crew member came up to me and said “Straass, try this out” handing me a bag of what I assumed was rolling tobacco. I said thanks and put the bag in my pocket.
He then said, ” Check that out”. Suspicious, I opened the bag and smelled it. Shit, it was dope! , i.e Marijuana. I was on the Pool deck by the pool and I immediately went and dumped the contents of the bag into the sea. I assumed that a SO member found in possession of marijuana would be immediately RPFed. I later found out that he had just “found” the weed; apparently left behind by the former WOG crew. Of course, this was back when possession was a crime punishable by prison time.
Later they had “Teen Week” where teens came aboard and smoked dope and snorted cocaine.
Yes, Sad State of Affairs.
I personally experienced every last one of the things you mention though at the time some of them were self-imposed, though all of them are commendables.
I joined the SO at age 20 in fairly good health. I was FBed out at the age of 43 after over a half-life time in the SO. The Captain told my then wife that I was going to die and told her to end-cycle on me. After I left the ship they sent me to a Scn Chiro to be treated for full-blown AIDS from HIV contaminated blood products given me in the hospital in Curacao.
Then, when my wife finally was released 6 months after I was sent off, they told her to put me in a hospice to die. The only reason that I am still alive is because of her Non-Compliance to their orders.
I know for a fact that my departure cost them over a million dollars in damage in the Engine Room in the first few years I after I left. And this is just the damage I heard about from former crew members.
But it does not really matter that they sent me off, because in the last year the stress from insanities too numerous to mention would have resulted in self-termination (i.e suicide) within a year anyway.
Their philosophy is “Arbight machts frei”.
(Work will set you free”.
Signs stating this are at the gates of many Nazi concentration camps . Ok, if you have an unlimited supply of recruits like the Nazis
SadStateofAffairs: I could not agree more. Hubbard’s disdain for labor is unmasked. The starvation conditions of many, possibly most, staff is both cruel to each dedicated worker, plus is an operating basis antithetical to clearing a desk of papers or a sidewalk of snowfall, much less a planet of all its aberrations. Thank god for the heart, compassion, and wisdom of the team who founded and operates The Aftermath Foundation to help those exiting to get on their feet into a healthy, sustainable life. A life where, we hope, that individual does not question whether or not they are valued. They are!
I want to add that Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad also receives a mention on the ADL page regarding Brother Rizza Islam.
Rizza could come up with a conspiracy theory that the Piltdown Man was a black skinned missing link who was murdered by newly evolved white skinned homo sapiens.
George says
Unbelievable that these folks spend all their waking hours assisting this organization yet they have to bring their own toiletries ? Considering the low wage then thats a big chunk of their money just there – I suppose they have to pay for their own laundry detergent to clean their clothes as well. I’m astounded by the selfishness.
Rip Van Winkle says
Roll your owns
Drum tobacco!
I had not thought about all that for a long time. Early years of being so poor on staff. Roll your own, stuff your own, parcel them out.
I swear. We could do a ten season series with huge ensemble cast showing all the various shared farcical experiences as a public, staff, and SO member.
The episodes depicting:
you’re a class IV/V Org staff member sent to outer org training, now stuck, starving to death and under great duress.
work study
rice and beans
you’re from a SHIT org OUT EXCHANGE – you’re supposed to make it go right from here!
so broke, no time to do laundry, no money to do laundry, don’t have the right clothes, no money or time to buy any.
no comm from home org, cut off, alone, woe!
Make your target DB
or you’re goin home.
Hell, we got farce, drama and total surrealism, jam packed episodes.
Aquamarine says
OMG…”The Munywels… ninth retread…Route To Infinity Course…”
Still laughing, RB.
Aquamarine says
“Carmen Dinero”…LOL! RB, you are very sick in a very healthy way.
Taffy Sinclair says
Mike, are you still working on your book? I really want to read your life story!
Mike Rinder says
YEs, moving forward, but it’s a slow process…
George says
Whats the book about ? Autobiography ?
unelectedfloofgoofer says
If she spends TEN hours in cold rooms next week, she may be able to keep up her regging stats. Hopefully they won’t delay her Cause Resurgence appointment, or things could get very difficult.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I was FSO staff from 79 to 86. To get Christmas Day off we usually had to get the stats up. To get the stats up they cancelled liberties, CSP, Study and Family Time.
Wow, what a team effort, we pulled it off.
Now. to get New Years Day off, we had to do the same thing, only since we took Christmas Day off, there was one less day. So after another week of no study, CSP and Family Time, we could not quite pull it off so did a full day’s production on New Years Day. In the 23 years I was in the SO, I probably went to study 3 or 4 years.
We would have gotten more time off if we had just cancelled Christmas and New Year in the first place.
Affluence Attainment formula “Doing the things that won, not new things untried as yet”
The things that “won” was working or being worked to death. That was a win for me personally; if I had not been pronounced dead by the Captain I really would be dead.
George says
Can you please explain to me how study works ? My understanding is that in the sea org you are given time each day to study which is the exchange for the work you perform. I believe you get a few hours at the start of the day for study and after that you begin to do work. Is study optional ? Do people not fully take up the offer to study and if not why not ? Given the choice of studying or working tedious jobs for long hours i would take the study otherwise you would be adding hours to your days labor.
Loosing my Religion says
Years ago when my mother died and I was still a bit of a scn “believer” someone from the sea org called me for the usual requests or for money or to activate me to collect it for them.
When he heard about my mother, he asked me two questions:
1. How are you? (classic PR question) and immediately after, I didn’t even completed my answer
2. So you will receive an inheritance, right?!?
In no time I was already at the top of his list of hot prospects.
Scientology_411 says
Wow… that’s just ghoulish.
Loosing my Religion says
Yes but it happened. That person knew me and maybe he thought he could talk with me that way because clearing the planet is above everything. There are many of such stories that are even worst. It’s a money worship.
Peridot says
Loosing my Religion: Yes, indeed. It is a money worship, first and foremost, as voraciously as those gray-skinned shark people LRH put in one of his Planet Earth-in-peril stories. So much of what comprises the group’s tapestry is “hiding in plain sight.” Crunch, crunch, crunch. Chomp, chomp, chomp. Vacuuming in every shred of energy not nailed down. And even then, “Did you bring a hammer? Help me unloose these nails…”
James Rosso says
Most religions have their hand out asking their followers for donations. Some will go through your wallet, and demand to look at your taxes to make sure you’re donating 10% (e.g. mormons, many megachurches). A few put a hose into your pocket and suck until they get lint (any prosperity gospel church). And then some like Scientology suck until they get blood and then start pressuring you to sell a kidney.
Loosing my Religion says
Peridot. You meant the grey little space bankers on battle field earth always with stomach problems and with a double row of teeth ? Laughing!!!
Peridot says
Loosing my Religion: Absolutely, those little guys, in a conference room, I think they are depicted, attending a meeting. Others wondering, “What happened to… (anything that used to be there)?” ‘Til they realize, these little gray-skinned guys are consuming everything. The hosts for the meeting cannot keep up with their consumption.
Skyler23 says
Oh, that makes me so angry. These “mindless robots” (to quote the TWERP) are such greedy monsters. He probably got some kind of reward for thinking to ask you about an inheritance.
Loosing my Religion says
Skyler they have usually two main targets implanted: Money and new recruits.
Aquamarine says
“So you will receive an inheritance, right?”
Thank Xenu you can always count on a cult staff member for the necessary compassion, support, empathy and tact while deeply grieving the death of a loved one!
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua yes they are always full of compassion.
To get a stat up they would sell their soul.
A person in their eyes is always just a stat up, money or recruitment.
Aquamarine says
Yes, its true. All true. Its sad. Sad for them, that they’re that way. Now that I’m out, I look at it that way, that its sad for them – for anyone, actually – to be so fundamentally mercenary.
Loosing my Religion says
Aqua you are right it’s really sad. You have been there and you know. It is the only “religion” where the staff see you as a walking stat. And if one cannot end up into some stat or contribute to it, he and his life are just ‘Dev-t’ (developed traffic, unnecessary presence).
Do well.
Skyler23 says
I wonder if anyone has ever tried the following tactic?
When one of these monsters starts to pressure you for a donation, why not explain that you would love to make a donation but you will not have the money until next June (or whenever) when you get your tax return and ask the creep if they would please loan you the money until then so you can make the donation.
Then, no matter how much they squirm and wriggle and try to get you to increase your credit limit so you can borrow from a bank, just say you will not borrow from a bank because of the heavy interest charges but if the creep will loan you the money (as a personal loan) then you will be glad to make the donation.
By the way, if any of them are ever dumb enough to make you any loan, be sure to spend half the money on necessities first and then donate maybe half the money. After all ….
Fuck this evil scam!
Aquamarine says
Skyler, where were you when I could have used this scheme? 🙂
Seriously, though; here’s what would happen if someone said they’d be receiving a tax refund “in June” and would they loan you the money in the interim:
1) They would loan nothing; not a brass farthing, not a plug nickel, not a red cent, and,
2) The phone calls, emails, texts and snail mail letters would increase TEN fold. They’d be on you like ducks on a June bug if you’ll pardon the pun for YOU to “make it go right” to make the donation NOW. They’d be up your you-know-what for YOU to figure out how it could be done immediately, for YOU to think of people who would front the money right away for you to pay back, etc. etc.
Skyler, have you ever met a chocoholic? I used to be one, and can still relapse if I allow my blood sugar to go too low. Someone who can’t eat ONE chocolate cookie or one or two pieces of choc candy because after having tasted ONE, the whole box MUST be eaten? Do you have a concept of this principle?
Ok, now, apply this principle to a staff member who gets the merest WHIFF of a hint that MONEY is DEFINITELY on the horizon for a prospect.
Just like the box of cookies sitting there that can be eaten gradually later; just like the box of candy that is THERE and WILL be eaten, only just not all at once right now – no! No no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no future; there is no past; there is only NOW.
The candy must be eaten NOW.
The money must be donated NOW.
And to that end, you will be inundated with communication. OMG, if they KNOW there will be money coming in…you are finished! Slit your throat. You’re done.
It really is that bad, Skyler!
Love reading your posts, by the way. Its heartening, the way you have no dog in the race, no skin in the game, etc., but yet, you care.
Its very nice 🙂
Skyler23 says
Hello Aqua,
You know, I have always enjoyed conversing with you.
But as far as the current topic under discussion, I must admit thaht I just have nothing to offer. It is real clear that you are absolutely right. My idea was just no good at all in the face of a pack of rabid dogs who get the scent of just about anything.
But there has to be something that can be done to throw these beasts off the track. Problem is, the only things I can think of are extremely illegal. They are all crimes that will get people life in prison – at the very best.
I must resolve myself to the conclusion that Mike and Leah have found the winning approach. By constantly whispering in the ear of the public just how dangerous and cruel this terrible scam treats the world, the best approach is to just let the public “melt away” until absolutely zero people have any interest in getting involved with these monsters.
But it is wonderful to know that someone here (I mean you by the way) has the winning strategy in mind how to defeat these monsters.
Well done, Aqua!
P.S. I am having some problems trying to make posts here. I originally tried to post this 24 hours ago. Pls excuse if it does not get posted.
Aquamarine says
“But there has to be something that can be done to throw these beasts off the track.”
Sending you a hug, Skyler. It really is marvelous the way you care.
For whatever its worth, here’s what I did back in the day, that worked fairly well and kept me sane:
I had 2 phone numbers and 2 separate flip cell phones.
One cell # and flip phone (the actual device, mind you) was the Scientology – all things Scientology line – any and all Scientology-related calls. There were few texts in those days.
The other number and flip phone was for business, personal and everything else not Scientology-related. THIS was the LINE I LIVED on. This was the number I answered (had to answer always) for business. And then personal calls too of course. I knew all the numbers of everyone who called me personally. So I lived on this phone.
The Scientology phone was mostly shut off with a very friendly and polite voice mail message. Almost never did I answer this phone. But it “rang” all day without me having to hear it. Sometimes when I was feeling evil I would have on vibrate and I’d listen to it buzzing all day while I didn’t pick up.
Every other day or so I’d empty out the messages on the Scientology phone and maybe respond to one or two of them. Then again maybe I wouldn’t.
Many calls were from org people REconfirming me for an event. I was already confirmed but they’d have people calling (and calling and calling and calling) to REconfirm me for the event. (Not only me, btw. They did this with everyone. Incredibly annoying and time wasting but that’s what they would do; confirm, reconfirm, re-reconfirm, etc., etc. True.)
My business was such that I lived on the phone. Now its more texting and email but back then it was still the phone.
If I had allowed it I would have been on the phone all day with Scientologists wanting or needing something. I would have gotten nothing done. I didn’t have a secretary to screen my calls. I did everything myself back then.
The Scientology Only phone cost me $50 per month, beginning a month or so after 9/11/01 and continuing until I left, roughly 10 years later. $600 per month X 10 =$6000.
Well worth it. I attribute no small measure of my continued mental and physical health to having had all Scientology calls shunted to that separate line AND phone.
I could have had 2 numbers on the same flip phone but I didn’t want that.
Psychologically, I wanted – NEEDED to know that the other number was PHYSICALLY separate from the number I lived on. I kept it with me, mostly shut off, but sometimes buzzing angrily and continually in my purse. Whether or not it was on depended upon my mood. Mostly it was off and I heard nothing.
That was my solution to unending phone calls. After I left I experienced no small pleasure in cancelling that phone account!
Skyler23 says
Hey Aqua, You have a wonderfully inventive mind.
Good for you. I really enjoyed hearing your technique and I’d love to hear any more techniques you have used for converting these monsters into the turkeys they really are.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Loosing:
Fortunately for me by the time I got my inheritance, I had already been declared and dead-filed (not a joke). The cult never got a penny of it. I had already paid them in blood and sweat (no tears as I have not been able to cry for 30 years).
Loosing my Religion says
Bill got it. They got nothing from me, after 15 years of staff the game was over. No room for crapology and no sense.
Ms. B. Haven says
“…I was always able to mooch important stuff like coffee and cigarettes from the Public.”
That one brings back some memories. I was stuck at Flag back in the early 80s after being sent there as a staff member as a result of the mission holders massacre when every mission was ordered to do so by the ‘finance police’. The smokers amongst us were rolling their own because the couldn’t afford a pack of smokes. I had an auditor who brought habit back to the mission with him. He had this elaborate ritual of grinding coffee beans, brewing very strong coffee and rolling his Top tobacco in zig-zags. Nothing wrong with this but he did it to great excess and I never saw him eat anything very healthy. Probably couldn’t afford to, no full time staff could. He died at a very young age as a result of a heart attack. RIP Bob.
SadStateofAffairs says
Neglect of staff health is one of the SO and COS’s stupidest operating bases. Crappy food (low quality and nutritionally deficient and in some cases downright harmful), insufficient access to nutritional supplements, enforced insufficient sleep and insufficient time to exercise, subjecting staff to constant unrelenting stress, and a culture of make wrong for physical problems and need for medical care which discourages staff from standing up for their own care all add up to staff who are not in good shape starting at too young an age and hence inefficient or deficient in performance, and who often suffer from onset of ultimately debilitating or fatal conditions at too young an age. SO and COS destroys its staff and impairs their performance from the get go. So of course their organizations suck in their performance.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I arrived on the Freewinds on the day the cult took possession . (Sept 15, 1986).
Almost everyone aboard rolled their own cigarettes. As our home port was Curacao in the Netherland Antilles, we smoked mainly Sampson Halfzware tobacco.
I was also rolling my own. A few days after I got on the ship a crew member came up to me and said “Straass, try this out” handing me a bag of what I assumed was rolling tobacco. I said thanks and put the bag in my pocket.
He then said, ” Check that out”. Suspicious, I opened the bag and smelled it. Shit, it was dope! , i.e Marijuana. I was on the Pool deck by the pool and I immediately went and dumped the contents of the bag into the sea. I assumed that a SO member found in possession of marijuana would be immediately RPFed. I later found out that he had just “found” the weed; apparently left behind by the former WOG crew. Of course, this was back when possession was a crime punishable by prison time.
Later they had “Teen Week” where teens came aboard and smoked dope and snorted cocaine.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Yes, Sad State of Affairs.
I personally experienced every last one of the things you mention though at the time some of them were self-imposed, though all of them are commendables.
I joined the SO at age 20 in fairly good health. I was FBed out at the age of 43 after over a half-life time in the SO. The Captain told my then wife that I was going to die and told her to end-cycle on me. After I left the ship they sent me to a Scn Chiro to be treated for full-blown AIDS from HIV contaminated blood products given me in the hospital in Curacao.
Then, when my wife finally was released 6 months after I was sent off, they told her to put me in a hospice to die. The only reason that I am still alive is because of her Non-Compliance to their orders.
I know for a fact that my departure cost them over a million dollars in damage in the Engine Room in the first few years I after I left. And this is just the damage I heard about from former crew members.
But it does not really matter that they sent me off, because in the last year the stress from insanities too numerous to mention would have resulted in self-termination (i.e suicide) within a year anyway.
Their philosophy is “Arbight machts frei”.
(Work will set you free”.
Signs stating this are at the gates of many Nazi concentration camps . Ok, if you have an unlimited supply of recruits like the Nazis
Peridot says
SadStateofAffairs: I could not agree more. Hubbard’s disdain for labor is unmasked. The starvation conditions of many, possibly most, staff is both cruel to each dedicated worker, plus is an operating basis antithetical to clearing a desk of papers or a sidewalk of snowfall, much less a planet of all its aberrations. Thank god for the heart, compassion, and wisdom of the team who founded and operates The Aftermath Foundation to help those exiting to get on their feet into a healthy, sustainable life. A life where, we hope, that individual does not question whether or not they are valued. They are!
Loosing my Religion says
Great RB and great satir.
For a moment I had read:
“One medal closer to the front pork of infamy”.
Damn where are my reading glasses?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Loosing:
You read it correctly:
DM is a swine.
ISNOINews says
O/T. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has a page devoted to Scientology Youth for Human Rights Award Winner Nation of Islam Brother Rizza Islam:
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/rizza-islam
The page extensively discusses his involvement in Scientology.
Memorialized with a screenshot on ESMBR at:
https://exscn2.net/threads/the-anti-defamation-league-adl-has-a-page-devoted-to-scientology-youth-for-human-rights-award-winner-nation-of-islam-brother-rizza-islam.2824/
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ISNOINews says
I want to add that Scientology Freedom Medal Winner Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammad also receives a mention on the ADL page regarding Brother Rizza Islam.
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Richard says
Rizza could come up with a conspiracy theory that the Piltdown Man was a black skinned missing link who was murdered by newly evolved white skinned homo sapiens.