When I entered into the cult of Scientology in 1972 in New York, the chief male Ethics Officer was trading “check sheet” elimination for sex from the female mission members. I will never forget how it all started. They found a homeless drifter on the New York streets. He got a shower and a haircut and some new clothes. They gave him a course and made him Ethics Officer. At first I wondered why the women were spending so much time in the Ethics Office. After about six months, this drifter took about $2,000 in back rent that he was supposed to be holding in escrow. He bought auditing and then blew when his “gig’ was discovered. How do I know all of this? A few years later I ran into one of the ladies. She said that she had verified stories with other “victims”. He would place his hand on the shoulder of the woman and say something like, “We can make this checksheet go away.”
I never had any respect whatsoever for Scientology Ethics. I quickly learned how to get myself out of any infraction. Money worked best. You got a “Reg” on the hook telling him you would donate if you could get clearance. 80% of the time I was free. I did A-E in one afternoon. Hubbard had zero respect for any law or any Ethics. I sensed that if Hubbard got away with everything, I would be a better Scientologist and he would congratulate me in getting past all the “dummies” that were stuck in Ethics.
Hubbard spent his time having tantrums after reading the 19th century occult base. He could not even get that right. Scientology Ethics is a total joke.
My GAINS are so CB’d (Cock-Blocked, for those not in the know of $C terminology.) Tom, why are you doing this to me? Am I CB’d? Do you like me cutey? Drop the religion bub, and let’s talk,
Being far up the bridge is always looked at as a 2D qualification. Another great qual is the ability to earn vast amounts of money, have a large 401k, or a looming inheritance.
So, there is a new avenue up the Bridge! (same as the old one) Sleep your way to the top!
When the money runs out and the debts pile up, that’s out-ethics baby! DTMFA! And start looking for another unsuspecting boy (or girl) toy.
Ever wonder why some of the most beautiful Scientology women are married to the most unattractive yet wealthy men?
You can be the most brilliant, funny, charming and faithful man, but in Scientology, if you ain’t got that bling, you ain’t got that swing.
Chuck, he also said “Recruit in excess. The front door is always open, so is the gangway.” Meaning recruits lots of greenies, sort out the clunkers fast and dump them on the dock.
That’s our Hubbard, a real human-itarian, with the same derivation as veg-etarian. Chew them up and spit them out.
The sooner you quit the less time you will waste sorting it all out afterwards. QUIT FAST!
Oops, this was supposed to be a reply to Chuck below. Here is his original comment which bears repeating:
“My favorite misinterpretation, I learned from a smart Mission staffer, who pointed out that the “…quit fast….” option is even in Keeping Scientology Working policy.
“If they are going to quit, let them quit fast.” LRH, Keeping Scientology Working.
Another glaring out-point that I obviously was drinking kool-aid about – if scientology is the end all and be all of all answers for relationships in the universe, why so many divorces and disconnections? Hmmmm, duh!
RB… my heads working overtime with thinking up a comment on this week’s focus. It’s like trying to eat scrambled eggs with a straw. Relationships in and around Scientology…???… geezers. I’ve laid minefields with more compassion than the carnage I’ve seen over the decades happen to relationships Scientology style. Voodoo would have a better successful relationship stat than Scientology.
I agree wine doesn’t cut it if discussing one’s love life within Scientology, you need something a lot stronger.
Scientology gives you one hell of a love life hangover!
That is not the product of any course, auditor training or auditing process the Cult offers. I doubt that in all of the volumes of stuff El Con put together that the subject of love or compassion was seriously addressed. I certainly don’t recall any …………….. but then again, maybe I have MUs!!!!!
MUs – Misguided Undertakings, we all adopted those the moment we walked into an Org.
Upon reflection, it’s more the way Scientology is organizationally applied and shoved down your throat than what is so terrible about what is printed red on white, imo. That has to include of course the removal of the lies and alterations purposefully and intentionally added to it but the green on white scribble – a big bonfire for that stuff! Plus some jail time for the ring leaders and opinion leaders who profit from it. That also includes people like Michael Chan to be investigated for intent to and actually guilty of criminal conspiracy imo.
But you are right, love was never allowed or permitted to be a product. Instead it was viewed as tolerable in the early days but has no reference to it either technically or ethically, it was never considered an EP for anything. Later on love was deemed a suppressive trait, one in which the Scientologist either had to hide, mask, or give false evidence of. Offenders ended up being forced to either disconnect from it or be thrown out of the Church. There’s a lot to be despised about the Cof$ but it’s treatment and punishment of those displaying devotional love for others, especially family is about as criminally insane as it gets. Not only does the Cof$ profit from this but those in charge actually get pleasure from doing it
Oh boy…
Again RB spot on, I swear you are the fly on the wall. Dating a guy on lines can be so grueling. If they’re not using their “case” and being “keyed-in” as the excuse for a bad date then they are judging you for something or other. One of the things that annoyed me was when women would say to go to Flag for training where I could meet the most “upstat” guys who could pay my bridge, quite disgusting, I thought. Anyway, I’ll take a “wog” anytime.
In hindsight I guess I wasn’t your typical Scientologist but a real dilettante because:
– I wrote up maybe 1 KR (a things that shouldn’t be) in 35 plus years
– Refused to stand up and applaud LRH pictures
– Refused to disconnect from my child hood best friend who was gay
– Didn’t troll orgs to find a rich husband
– dated “wogs”
and on I can go. And in the end I guess that’s why I ended up here because I refuse to be a robot.
Within a month after starting a Cult course (Dianetics Today, 1975, SFO) I was approached by an attractive gal who offered to have me stay at her house (which did include sleeping with her as it turned out) since it was closer to the org. After a few weeks I decided to get an apartment in the city with an old friend who I had disseminated to and was starting on course. I was having a pretty good time with the new scientologists I was meeting!
That landed me in Ethics ….. which I had no idea even existed at the time. I asked the EO “Tell me again why I am here and not on course ….. exactly?”
EO: “I have a KR I need to go over with you!”
A few hours spent on a dusty couch in a dreary room and I was really confused and pissed about what was going on. Finally in exasperation I jumped up and told the reception person ” I am not spending any more time waiting around here for whatever you guys are doing. If I can’t be on course then I’m going home.”
EO: “you are not going anywhere now sit down.”
I was new to the Cult and did not understand the protocol and I said: “No , I am here by my own choice and I will leave by my choice. You are wasting my time! Bye!”
So I left and then of course a stream of folks came after me with all sorts of reasons I should reconsider which was discussed ad nauseum on the sidewalk outside the org. I said ” I don’t mind being on course but no more sitting around on you flea infested couch!” ( I should have walked)
Unbeknownst to me at the time, I could not return to course without being handled so the EO took me into the office and told me that I had serious “out ethics on the too dee!” (What the fuck is the too dee?)
EO ” You have been sleeping with a girl who wants to have a 2-D with you and you broke the commmunication line and have caused serious upset to a fellow $cientologist. You need to find and apply your condition and work up through them with her and then see me before going back on course.”
Me: “Really!? How about if I apologize to her and move on?”
EO: ” I think she would like to marry you based on her KR. You need to handle that.”
Me: ” Whoa Dude!!!! what are you sayin here? I just want to do my course. And what I do with another person is my business and I apologize for any inconvenience and will stay clear of the girls I promise!”
That was Intro to Scientology Ethics 101. I finally told them that I would finish my course but I would not do a bunch of mumbo jumbo stuff about Ethics and if that was a requirement then I was gone. So everything was dropped.
* The words in quotes above are approximations of how it went. It was a long time ago!
Newcomer, that is SO ROMANTIC! Just think, if you had caved in to the Ethics Officer you might have married this girl, and some day your kids might have asked for the story of how you met.
Expecting to hear a “La La Land” story with dancing in the moonlight and starry eyed conversations over wine and brie, their eyes would be wide with wonder. What about the ring, the proposal on bended knee, the eternal promise of love everlasting?
Imagine their shock at hearing you got hitched just to get the Ethics Officer off your back. A Scientology shotgun wedding.
Scientology, making the ineffable profane since 1954.
OMG Newcomer, you had me laughing hysterically – these stupid scenarios have happened to me.
I went out with this staff member (should of known better) and partied the night away. Next morning there he was all BLAME, SHAME AND REGRET. Oh my, he committed the ultimate overt, sex with a public. I knew he would waltz into that org, route himself to ethics, then route his ass for a sec check, etc. And lo and behold he did. I on the other hand had no remorse but knew we would be the talk of the org. Needless to say he really pissed me off. I was training and very up stat and with my bad ass attitude made it clear that I wouldn’t step one foot in any ethics office. Oh, my the days of insanity. Gotta laugh.
OMG that is just… so, so sad. And so, so funny. Lovemaking ruined by calling Miscavige an asshole. Makes me wonder who you would have to call an asshole in order to ruin lovemaking for me. Albert Schweitzer? Nope. George Harrison? Nope. Michael Phelps? Nope. But Miscavige? Asshole is just about the nicest thing you can say about him. Any other fair descriptor (excl. trivial, e.g., man, pint-sized) is some multiple (>1) of asshole.
Anyway, can’t wait to see true stories told in comments today, inspired by RB.
Here’s a true 2D story about a Scientology 2D that never got off the ground.
Back when I was a very new Div 6 public in my little org doing courses like “Ups and Downs In Life” and “Personal Integrity” and so forth, a tall, handsome dark haired guy, a public, not a staff person, introduced himself to me, asked me some questions about myself. We chatted for a bit and I asked him what course he was doing he told me he was “interning on Class IV”. I had a vague idea what an auditor was but otherwise had no idea what that meant. I thought he was cute and I like his manner.
After that night he continued to make a non-obvious point of always smiling at me and saying hello and noticing what I was wearing and complimenting me in non offensive ways…I liked his style and I thought to myself, “Hmmm, at some point, maybe he’s going to ask me out, and if he does, I’ll go out with him”.
The next time we encountered one another at the org, it was just before evening class, shortly before 7PM and I saw him running upstairs to the academy and I waived to him, but when he saw me he raced back down and said, “Hi, how are you, that’s a very pretty summer dress…” and then from upstairs the Academy Sup bellowed out, “ONE MINUTE!” and we both laughed and I went into my courseroom and he raced back up the stairs to the Academy.
So now, I was crushing on this guy a little bit.
But I had a question that needed answering: would I be ALLOWED to go on a date with him? Because I was Div 6, and he was a Class iV auditor which sounded very exalted to me. If he did ask me out, which I was pretty sure he was going to do (conceited me) would this be permitted?
So the next time I was at the org, I (ever so casually, I thought) asked a female staff member, “Are public Scientologists allowed to date auditors?”
People, I will NEVER forget the HORRIFIED look on her face at that question of mine!
“WHAT auditors?” she asked.
I mean, she was looking at me as if I were asking if it were OK to be taken in adultery or something. Like I was Scientology’s version of Hester Prynne, a kind of Auditor Seducer, or something.
Very uncomfortable now, and realizing that I had totally blundered , I attempted to back and fill: “Oh! Ha ha! No one in particular! I was just curious!”
She was having none of this, of course, and I was so embarrassed that I didn’t hear what else she said, so I can’t tell you now.
But from that time on this staff member watched me like a hawk. Which wasn’t hard to do because it was a small org. And when once more, my crush sought me out again, chatting me up pleasantly, asking me about work, how I was doing on course, telling me he liked my hairdo, blah blah blah, all this brief encounter meet cute stuff was now occurring right under her baleful gaze.
While talking with him laughing at a little joke he told, with a pang,, I thought, “This is so over, she’s not going to let us like each other”. That was my exact thought. And I had no idea why, but I knew it.
Well, not only did he stop “liking” me, he even stopped saying “hello”!
Instead, immediately after that, when we would encounter one another in this tiny org he would avert his eyes and walk past me. This hurt me but I wouldn’t let him see that. Instead, I kept my head up with a little smile and looked right thru him.
From time to time I would wonder, “What did she tell him about me that made him not want to even say ‘hello” anymore?”
Thanks for the story, Aqua. That sounds … typical. Would you say that staffer had her TRs in? In today’s exercise in Scilon-to-English translation: having your TRs in –> Mean and vindictive.
Aqua, great story, thanks for sharing. As a gene pool scientologists are low in numbers so that biatch wanted him for herself. This story all too common.
There is one sure-fire way to preserve your marriage in Scientology: Get out! It worked for my wife and I, now married 40 years.
When your religion starts attacking your marriage, it’s time to dump that religion. A religion is supposed to help marriage, not destroy it.
When Scientology isn’t getting all of a married couple’s money, it uses “ethics” to find out which partner is the obstacle. If removing that obstacle requires destroying the marriage and family, then so be it.
The least threatened marriages in Scientology are the ones without money.
Unfortunately the Cult had our daughter held hostage in the Sea Org at the HGB and our son was an org staff so my wife faced a Sophie’s Choice. Lose the hubby or you won’t see your kids again. They told her she had to hire an attorney (could not talk directly to me at all), file for divorce and by the way, we have an auditor waiting for you to handle your upset!
And by the way, if you could get us 40K by Thursday at two that should handle the auditing actions you will need to get you cleaned up………. and happy again!
Newcomer, so sorry to hear that. Your story is another nail in Scientology’s coffin. The “Church” of Scientology can never make right all of the terrible things done by its staff & parishioners. It has to end.
I know Scn women who hunt for Scn men to marry on the basis of will he pay for my Bridge. One such woman whose name I’ll withhold, married a guy so that he could pay for her NOTS auditing because she checked and found he had a healthy 401K for his retirement. When he refused to liquidate the 401K that took him years to save, and pay it to Flag for her NOTS, she divorced him. Then she went to her next victim. She went up the Bridge by climbing on the backs of each 2D that she used for money and kicked to the curb when the money gave out.
But it isn’t only women who did this. A guy who was wooing me actually called a SO friend of his to find out how much money I had on account for auditing. It was enough that he made plans to use it. He told me, “Since we are going to be together, we can combine our accounts at Flag into one account and then take turns using it to get each other up the Bridge.” Of course HIS turn would be first using MY money (he had none on account or in his bank account.) It was amazing to me how we’d barely met and had one or two dates and he was regging me to combine our accounts and let him use it for his auditing. I found out later that he was in the middle of a Sec Check at Flag, out of money, and they wouldn’t let him leave the base until he got more money to finish his Sec Check. He was being held hostage until he gave more money to finish his Sec Check. He latched onto me as the solution to his problem. It makes you wonder if love and romance and a “real 2D” are possible in the C of S when all attention is on money for Davey’s coffers. I think you’d be better off finding a mere “wog” to marry than a Kool Aid Drinker.
Gosh that is so disgusting Cindy! Thanks RB for an interesting one today – I personally never experienced this and found my hubby in the sea org 40 years ago and we are still happily married.
Being a never in, but having been watching all the shows and youtube videos that have been on in recent years, I can imagine that this conversation is sciontologese is not to far from actually happening, but wouldn’t they have to write KR’s on each other for it??!! Which makes it hysterical. Thank you Mike, I look forward to seeing a second season with you and Leah, hopefully!!
Absolutely….2nd season!!!!. The 1st season is what got me hooked on the subject. Having never been in, I find it hard to understand why anyone would join something like this ….it all seems so EVIL….and that little weinie…whats his name? ‘Missed cabbage’…can’t wait ’til they lock him away. Final point…..they call themselves a ‘church’ never heard GOD mentioned…..hmmmmmmm…….PS….Always liked Leah Remini. I find her very believable.
In one is a public scamologists under 60 years old there is almost no one your age to date.Probably not enough to make a viable gene pool. One would run the risk of genetic defects in the offspring.
This is something I’ve never really considered but makes sense. When I used to attend the OTC at my org in South Africa, there was a gang of middle-aged women who never seemed to get it right on the 2D, even though quite attractive and almost always 2D-flowing. I tried to get in there myself even though married and on OT7. Haha! They’d got up the bridge to where they were while married, and all stalled since divorce or being widowed. Now all makes sense. Almost all the available women in South Africa seemed to get onto some scientology-only dating site and hooked up with guys in the US mostly (don’t you have your own girls?). Outside the SO and young second-generations, there were virtually no marriages taking place in the South African field. All is revealed, thank you Regraded Being!
My favorite misinterpretation, I learned from a smart Mission staffer, who pointed out that the “…quit fast….” option is even in Keeping Scientology Working policy.
“If they are going to quit, let them quit fast.” LRH, Keeping Scientology Working.
When I entered into the cult of Scientology in 1972 in New York, the chief male Ethics Officer was trading “check sheet” elimination for sex from the female mission members. I will never forget how it all started. They found a homeless drifter on the New York streets. He got a shower and a haircut and some new clothes. They gave him a course and made him Ethics Officer. At first I wondered why the women were spending so much time in the Ethics Office. After about six months, this drifter took about $2,000 in back rent that he was supposed to be holding in escrow. He bought auditing and then blew when his “gig’ was discovered. How do I know all of this? A few years later I ran into one of the ladies. She said that she had verified stories with other “victims”. He would place his hand on the shoulder of the woman and say something like, “We can make this checksheet go away.”
I never had any respect whatsoever for Scientology Ethics. I quickly learned how to get myself out of any infraction. Money worked best. You got a “Reg” on the hook telling him you would donate if you could get clearance. 80% of the time I was free. I did A-E in one afternoon. Hubbard had zero respect for any law or any Ethics. I sensed that if Hubbard got away with everything, I would be a better Scientologist and he would congratulate me in getting past all the “dummies” that were stuck in Ethics.
Hubbard spent his time having tantrums after reading the 19th century occult base. He could not even get that right. Scientology Ethics is a total joke.
My GAINS are so CB’d (Cock-Blocked, for those not in the know of $C terminology.) Tom, why are you doing this to me? Am I CB’d? Do you like me cutey? Drop the religion bub, and let’s talk,
Dave,
Inconvenient-facts Denyers Update:
O’Keefe has your name and number. And it is now official, human trafficking is an ‘epidemic’; another target on your back.
Being far up the bridge is always looked at as a 2D qualification. Another great qual is the ability to earn vast amounts of money, have a large 401k, or a looming inheritance.
So, there is a new avenue up the Bridge! (same as the old one) Sleep your way to the top!
When the money runs out and the debts pile up, that’s out-ethics baby! DTMFA! And start looking for another unsuspecting boy (or girl) toy.
Ever wonder why some of the most beautiful Scientology women are married to the most unattractive yet wealthy men?
You can be the most brilliant, funny, charming and faithful man, but in Scientology, if you ain’t got that bling, you ain’t got that swing.
Damn! I’ve never had bling or swing. Man…I’m such a downstat…
Chuck, he also said “Recruit in excess. The front door is always open, so is the gangway.” Meaning recruits lots of greenies, sort out the clunkers fast and dump them on the dock.
That’s our Hubbard, a real human-itarian, with the same derivation as veg-etarian. Chew them up and spit them out.
The sooner you quit the less time you will waste sorting it all out afterwards. QUIT FAST!
Oops, this was supposed to be a reply to Chuck below. Here is his original comment which bears repeating:
“My favorite misinterpretation, I learned from a smart Mission staffer, who pointed out that the “…quit fast….” option is even in Keeping Scientology Working policy.
“If they are going to quit, let them quit fast.” LRH, Keeping Scientology Working.
Then, just shorten that advice down to:
“…quit fast…..”
and then repunctuate that:
QUIT FAST!
– LRH”
Reading “Blown for Good”. Marc thinks very highly of you! Glad you are free! Very sad to hear about the forced diet program you had to do. ?
Another glaring out-point that I obviously was drinking kool-aid about – if scientology is the end all and be all of all answers for relationships in the universe, why so many divorces and disconnections? Hmmmm, duh!
RB… my heads working overtime with thinking up a comment on this week’s focus. It’s like trying to eat scrambled eggs with a straw. Relationships in and around Scientology…???… geezers. I’ve laid minefields with more compassion than the carnage I’ve seen over the decades happen to relationships Scientology style. Voodoo would have a better successful relationship stat than Scientology.
I agree wine doesn’t cut it if discussing one’s love life within Scientology, you need something a lot stronger.
Scientology gives you one hell of a love life hangover!
The ultimate hangover. The kind you never get over…
Having a ‘love life’ requires compassion IMHO.
That is not the product of any course, auditor training or auditing process the Cult offers. I doubt that in all of the volumes of stuff El Con put together that the subject of love or compassion was seriously addressed. I certainly don’t recall any …………….. but then again, maybe I have MUs!!!!!
MUs – Misguided Undertakings, we all adopted those the moment we walked into an Org.
Upon reflection, it’s more the way Scientology is organizationally applied and shoved down your throat than what is so terrible about what is printed red on white, imo. That has to include of course the removal of the lies and alterations purposefully and intentionally added to it but the green on white scribble – a big bonfire for that stuff! Plus some jail time for the ring leaders and opinion leaders who profit from it. That also includes people like Michael Chan to be investigated for intent to and actually guilty of criminal conspiracy imo.
But you are right, love was never allowed or permitted to be a product. Instead it was viewed as tolerable in the early days but has no reference to it either technically or ethically, it was never considered an EP for anything. Later on love was deemed a suppressive trait, one in which the Scientologist either had to hide, mask, or give false evidence of. Offenders ended up being forced to either disconnect from it or be thrown out of the Church. There’s a lot to be despised about the Cof$ but it’s treatment and punishment of those displaying devotional love for others, especially family is about as criminally insane as it gets. Not only does the Cof$ profit from this but those in charge actually get pleasure from doing it
Oh boy…
Again RB spot on, I swear you are the fly on the wall. Dating a guy on lines can be so grueling. If they’re not using their “case” and being “keyed-in” as the excuse for a bad date then they are judging you for something or other. One of the things that annoyed me was when women would say to go to Flag for training where I could meet the most “upstat” guys who could pay my bridge, quite disgusting, I thought. Anyway, I’ll take a “wog” anytime.
In hindsight I guess I wasn’t your typical Scientologist but a real dilettante because:
– I wrote up maybe 1 KR (a things that shouldn’t be) in 35 plus years
– Refused to stand up and applaud LRH pictures
– Refused to disconnect from my child hood best friend who was gay
– Didn’t troll orgs to find a rich husband
– dated “wogs”
and on I can go. And in the end I guess that’s why I ended up here because I refuse to be a robot.
Within a month after starting a Cult course (Dianetics Today, 1975, SFO) I was approached by an attractive gal who offered to have me stay at her house (which did include sleeping with her as it turned out) since it was closer to the org. After a few weeks I decided to get an apartment in the city with an old friend who I had disseminated to and was starting on course. I was having a pretty good time with the new scientologists I was meeting!
That landed me in Ethics ….. which I had no idea even existed at the time. I asked the EO “Tell me again why I am here and not on course ….. exactly?”
EO: “I have a KR I need to go over with you!”
A few hours spent on a dusty couch in a dreary room and I was really confused and pissed about what was going on. Finally in exasperation I jumped up and told the reception person ” I am not spending any more time waiting around here for whatever you guys are doing. If I can’t be on course then I’m going home.”
EO: “you are not going anywhere now sit down.”
I was new to the Cult and did not understand the protocol and I said: “No , I am here by my own choice and I will leave by my choice. You are wasting my time! Bye!”
So I left and then of course a stream of folks came after me with all sorts of reasons I should reconsider which was discussed ad nauseum on the sidewalk outside the org. I said ” I don’t mind being on course but no more sitting around on you flea infested couch!” ( I should have walked)
Unbeknownst to me at the time, I could not return to course without being handled so the EO took me into the office and told me that I had serious “out ethics on the too dee!” (What the fuck is the too dee?)
EO ” You have been sleeping with a girl who wants to have a 2-D with you and you broke the commmunication line and have caused serious upset to a fellow $cientologist. You need to find and apply your condition and work up through them with her and then see me before going back on course.”
Me: “Really!? How about if I apologize to her and move on?”
EO: ” I think she would like to marry you based on her KR. You need to handle that.”
Me: ” Whoa Dude!!!! what are you sayin here? I just want to do my course. And what I do with another person is my business and I apologize for any inconvenience and will stay clear of the girls I promise!”
That was Intro to Scientology Ethics 101. I finally told them that I would finish my course but I would not do a bunch of mumbo jumbo stuff about Ethics and if that was a requirement then I was gone. So everything was dropped.
* The words in quotes above are approximations of how it went. It was a long time ago!
Newcomer, that is SO ROMANTIC! Just think, if you had caved in to the Ethics Officer you might have married this girl, and some day your kids might have asked for the story of how you met.
Expecting to hear a “La La Land” story with dancing in the moonlight and starry eyed conversations over wine and brie, their eyes would be wide with wonder. What about the ring, the proposal on bended knee, the eternal promise of love everlasting?
Imagine their shock at hearing you got hitched just to get the Ethics Officer off your back. A Scientology shotgun wedding.
Scientology, making the ineffable profane since 1954.
Was that old Bill Steiner, the EO at SF?
OMG Newcomer, you had me laughing hysterically – these stupid scenarios have happened to me.
I went out with this staff member (should of known better) and partied the night away. Next morning there he was all BLAME, SHAME AND REGRET. Oh my, he committed the ultimate overt, sex with a public. I knew he would waltz into that org, route himself to ethics, then route his ass for a sec check, etc. And lo and behold he did. I on the other hand had no remorse but knew we would be the talk of the org. Needless to say he really pissed me off. I was training and very up stat and with my bad ass attitude made it clear that I wouldn’t step one foot in any ethics office. Oh, my the days of insanity. Gotta laugh.
You go, girl! Very, VERY well done!
Ah, marriage à la mode, Scientology-style!
OMG that is just… so, so sad. And so, so funny. Lovemaking ruined by calling Miscavige an asshole. Makes me wonder who you would have to call an asshole in order to ruin lovemaking for me. Albert Schweitzer? Nope. George Harrison? Nope. Michael Phelps? Nope. But Miscavige? Asshole is just about the nicest thing you can say about him. Any other fair descriptor (excl. trivial, e.g., man, pint-sized) is some multiple (>1) of asshole.
Anyway, can’t wait to see true stories told in comments today, inspired by RB.
Asshole to the nth degree?
Here’s a true 2D story about a Scientology 2D that never got off the ground.
Back when I was a very new Div 6 public in my little org doing courses like “Ups and Downs In Life” and “Personal Integrity” and so forth, a tall, handsome dark haired guy, a public, not a staff person, introduced himself to me, asked me some questions about myself. We chatted for a bit and I asked him what course he was doing he told me he was “interning on Class IV”. I had a vague idea what an auditor was but otherwise had no idea what that meant. I thought he was cute and I like his manner.
After that night he continued to make a non-obvious point of always smiling at me and saying hello and noticing what I was wearing and complimenting me in non offensive ways…I liked his style and I thought to myself, “Hmmm, at some point, maybe he’s going to ask me out, and if he does, I’ll go out with him”.
The next time we encountered one another at the org, it was just before evening class, shortly before 7PM and I saw him running upstairs to the academy and I waived to him, but when he saw me he raced back down and said, “Hi, how are you, that’s a very pretty summer dress…” and then from upstairs the Academy Sup bellowed out, “ONE MINUTE!” and we both laughed and I went into my courseroom and he raced back up the stairs to the Academy.
So now, I was crushing on this guy a little bit.
But I had a question that needed answering: would I be ALLOWED to go on a date with him? Because I was Div 6, and he was a Class iV auditor which sounded very exalted to me. If he did ask me out, which I was pretty sure he was going to do (conceited me) would this be permitted?
So the next time I was at the org, I (ever so casually, I thought) asked a female staff member, “Are public Scientologists allowed to date auditors?”
People, I will NEVER forget the HORRIFIED look on her face at that question of mine!
“WHAT auditors?” she asked.
I mean, she was looking at me as if I were asking if it were OK to be taken in adultery or something. Like I was Scientology’s version of Hester Prynne, a kind of Auditor Seducer, or something.
Very uncomfortable now, and realizing that I had totally blundered , I attempted to back and fill: “Oh! Ha ha! No one in particular! I was just curious!”
She was having none of this, of course, and I was so embarrassed that I didn’t hear what else she said, so I can’t tell you now.
But from that time on this staff member watched me like a hawk. Which wasn’t hard to do because it was a small org. And when once more, my crush sought me out again, chatting me up pleasantly, asking me about work, how I was doing on course, telling me he liked my hairdo, blah blah blah, all this brief encounter meet cute stuff was now occurring right under her baleful gaze.
While talking with him laughing at a little joke he told, with a pang,, I thought, “This is so over, she’s not going to let us like each other”. That was my exact thought. And I had no idea why, but I knew it.
Well, not only did he stop “liking” me, he even stopped saying “hello”!
Instead, immediately after that, when we would encounter one another in this tiny org he would avert his eyes and walk past me. This hurt me but I wouldn’t let him see that. Instead, I kept my head up with a little smile and looked right thru him.
From time to time I would wonder, “What did she tell him about me that made him not want to even say ‘hello” anymore?”
True.
Thanks for the story, Aqua. That sounds … typical. Would you say that staffer had her TRs in? In today’s exercise in Scilon-to-English translation: having your TRs in –> Mean and vindictive.
Aqua, great story, thanks for sharing. As a gene pool scientologists are low in numbers so that biatch wanted him for herself. This story all too common.
Good one Regraded Being. Happy Friday to all.
Thank you and may your Saturday be lots of fun!
There is one sure-fire way to preserve your marriage in Scientology: Get out! It worked for my wife and I, now married 40 years.
When your religion starts attacking your marriage, it’s time to dump that religion. A religion is supposed to help marriage, not destroy it.
When Scientology isn’t getting all of a married couple’s money, it uses “ethics” to find out which partner is the obstacle. If removing that obstacle requires destroying the marriage and family, then so be it.
The least threatened marriages in Scientology are the ones without money.
I don’t view Scientology as a religion….I view it as a vicious, totalitarian, evil, toxic cult. But, hey, that’s just me…
OSD, I agree. It’s a rapacious cult posing as a religion.
It’s been a rapacious cult since the very first day.
Nothing good can come from being a member of Scientology.
Good work WhatWall.
Unfortunately the Cult had our daughter held hostage in the Sea Org at the HGB and our son was an org staff so my wife faced a Sophie’s Choice. Lose the hubby or you won’t see your kids again. They told her she had to hire an attorney (could not talk directly to me at all), file for divorce and by the way, we have an auditor waiting for you to handle your upset!
And by the way, if you could get us 40K by Thursday at two that should handle the auditing actions you will need to get you cleaned up………. and happy again!
We only made it 32 years.
Newcomer, so sorry to hear that. Your story is another nail in Scientology’s coffin. The “Church” of Scientology can never make right all of the terrible things done by its staff & parishioners. It has to end.
Line for line.Gem for gem.My favourite.She forgot to tell me he was broke.
I know Scn women who hunt for Scn men to marry on the basis of will he pay for my Bridge. One such woman whose name I’ll withhold, married a guy so that he could pay for her NOTS auditing because she checked and found he had a healthy 401K for his retirement. When he refused to liquidate the 401K that took him years to save, and pay it to Flag for her NOTS, she divorced him. Then she went to her next victim. She went up the Bridge by climbing on the backs of each 2D that she used for money and kicked to the curb when the money gave out.
But it isn’t only women who did this. A guy who was wooing me actually called a SO friend of his to find out how much money I had on account for auditing. It was enough that he made plans to use it. He told me, “Since we are going to be together, we can combine our accounts at Flag into one account and then take turns using it to get each other up the Bridge.” Of course HIS turn would be first using MY money (he had none on account or in his bank account.) It was amazing to me how we’d barely met and had one or two dates and he was regging me to combine our accounts and let him use it for his auditing. I found out later that he was in the middle of a Sec Check at Flag, out of money, and they wouldn’t let him leave the base until he got more money to finish his Sec Check. He was being held hostage until he gave more money to finish his Sec Check. He latched onto me as the solution to his problem. It makes you wonder if love and romance and a “real 2D” are possible in the C of S when all attention is on money for Davey’s coffers. I think you’d be better off finding a mere “wog” to marry than a Kool Aid Drinker.
Yeah, I might know her, oh wait on the other hand maybe not since there are a few of those in every city. LOL
Yep! That’s Scientology for you. And poor boys trying desperately to latch onto some gal he thinks has money.
Gosh that is so disgusting Cindy! Thanks RB for an interesting one today – I personally never experienced this and found my hubby in the sea org 40 years ago and we are still happily married.
Congratulations! Forty years married is no small feat, even under the best of conditions. I admire your strong will and determination.
Love this and it answers a few of my questions about married life in the cult.
Married life in the cult is not pretty. Especially when they take the husband or wife to a different base or org. Such a lovely religion….
Being a never in, but having been watching all the shows and youtube videos that have been on in recent years, I can imagine that this conversation is sciontologese is not to far from actually happening, but wouldn’t they have to write KR’s on each other for it??!! Which makes it hysterical. Thank you Mike, I look forward to seeing a second season with you and Leah, hopefully!!
me too………………
(People shouting). Second season! Second season! Second season!
Absolutely….2nd season!!!!. The 1st season is what got me hooked on the subject. Having never been in, I find it hard to understand why anyone would join something like this ….it all seems so EVIL….and that little weinie…whats his name? ‘Missed cabbage’…can’t wait ’til they lock him away. Final point…..they call themselves a ‘church’ never heard GOD mentioned…..hmmmmmmm…….PS….Always liked Leah Remini. I find her very believable.
In one is a public scamologists under 60 years old there is almost no one your age to date.Probably not enough to make a viable gene pool. One would run the risk of genetic defects in the offspring.
This is something I’ve never really considered but makes sense. When I used to attend the OTC at my org in South Africa, there was a gang of middle-aged women who never seemed to get it right on the 2D, even though quite attractive and almost always 2D-flowing. I tried to get in there myself even though married and on OT7. Haha! They’d got up the bridge to where they were while married, and all stalled since divorce or being widowed. Now all makes sense. Almost all the available women in South Africa seemed to get onto some scientology-only dating site and hooked up with guys in the US mostly (don’t you have your own girls?). Outside the SO and young second-generations, there were virtually no marriages taking place in the South African field. All is revealed, thank you Regraded Being!
If you’re still in, there’s nothing strong enough to drink to ease the pain!
Well, except for bleach which seems to have a positive effect on getting out of the Cult!
My favorite misinterpretation, I learned from a smart Mission staffer, who pointed out that the “…quit fast….” option is even in Keeping Scientology Working policy.
“If they are going to quit, let them quit fast.” LRH, Keeping Scientology Working.
Then, just shorten that advice down to:
“…quit fast…..”
and then repunctuate that:
QUIT FAST!
– LRH
No bout a doubt it! All you have to do is raise up a Clorox bottle to your lips and wait for someone to walk by. Freedom City baby!!!