This RB post should be translated into all foreign languages and plastered across the internet so as to warn all foreign “recruits” the cult is going after.
Getting rid of “PTS” or “SP” public is an art OSA has down pat. All they do is show them some LRH such as The Character of the Ethics Officer (it discusses the halls of the org being empty is a sign of an SP on lines) or Criminal Minds and the person cogs the place is being run by an SP and leaves. Why they haven’t had the same cognition themselves yet is in itself, quite fascinating.
“Shut up, Mimsey!” (South Park quote, for anyone who is interested… you’re giving the game away)
No, of course, do NOT shut up Mimsey. You nailed it. If the halls of the org are empty, there must be an SP lurking about. In fact if the active parishioner count is dropping since a certain little COB took the wheel, might the very same COB be the actual SP? LRH is spinning in his Van Allen Belt location as we speak.
Elron spoke to exactly that point when he observed that whenever a bunch of people suddenly start getting declared and messed with in an area, it’s the person in charge who’s the SP, NOT the folks he’s been messing with.
Why these silly $cilons can’t seem to grasp this incredibly simple point, despite having Elron tell them exactly what’s up, is simply astonishing to me!
A couple of “get out of the SO recruit cycle” cards to play:
1. I have taken LSD
2. I once attempted (or thought of) suicide
3. I have a GO history (but you’d be so old now you probably don’t qualify anyway).
4. I served in Military Intelligence / worked for the Police/CIA/FBI
5. My uncle/aunt/*-* (insert family member here) is a Psychiatrist and/or anti-SCN
6. I have a criminal record
7. I’ve been on Psych meds and/or was once hospitalised for a Psych condition.
Of course all of the above could be total BS, but who cares? After all, SCN says it’s okay to prevaricate if it’s “for the greatest good” and believe me, NOT joining the SO is definitely the greatest good for YOUR dynamics.
They’re more than likely to leave you alone and pursue an easier target than try clean up whatever “issue” you have involving hours and hours of tedious CSWs, amends projects, case clean-ups and the like. But Suicide, Psych history & LSD is a total no-go zone and you’re not likely to be harassed again.
I was a teenager during the 1970s and took a lot of LSD and loved it. One of my best friends, who had grown up pretty sheltered and had never done any kind of drug, asked me when we were both 19 years old or so, if she could do it with me next time. I told her that no, I didn’t feel comfortable with that because I wasn’t sure she could handle it (and a trip lasts for hours). She was so disappointed and I felt really guilty about it.
Fast forward to the early 80s when she was exposed to Scientology via a mutual friend of ours and joined staff fulltime…earning $5-10 a week sometimes…and she was recruited into the Sea Org and was off to Flag. She called to thank me profusely for talking her out of that LSD experience, otherwise she would have been disqualified to join the Sea Org.
She’s still there. If I had only known. Even dealing with her having a bad trip back then would have been better than the SO.
Wow! What a turn around! As I’ve said before, I dropped acid once, in college. A SO recruiting team came into the Honolulu mission. I was staff at the time. When they ask about acid, that was it for me. And the thing was, if I hadn’t done acid, I might have joined the SO.
Escaping the slippery slope of crossing the bridge to nowhere….going up only to have someone grease the slide to have you slip back down again…Ain’t life in CO$ grand.
Obviously that kid has been exposed to OUTSIDE INFLUENCES and the parents are too namby-pamby to tell the church to ‘fuck off’ because they don’t have the strength of their convictions. They’re possibly afraid they might lose contact with some no-account family member who will choose ‘clearing this sector of the Galaxy’ over them in a disconnection.
HAHAHA “what are you going to write in your KR?” ” I don’t except that you were no fucking help” LOL Sounds about right they both write each other up in the KR in hopes of deflecting the shit-storm away from themselves. And they both try to nail the kid for good measure? Never a dull moment reading this stuff.
It’s like North Korea, the KGB, the East German Stasi, and my old nosey next door neighbor, combined and on steroids. What a lovely religion hatched out of the broken mind of LRH.
I don’t understand why being an engineer is a bad thing? Being in accord with the Laws of Physics….does that mean OTs can supposedly violate the Laws of Physics? Like flying, gravity not applying to an OT, stuff like that?
Sorry if this question sounds silly. Thanking you.
In this case being anything except a duped, robotic Sea Org member is a bad thing in the eyes of other Sea Org members.
Back in the 70’s the magazine of AOLA, the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles, one of the locations where you do the OT levels, used to print “OT Phenomena” success stories. People on their OT levels would write short stories or wins about doing some things that would defy the physical universe. It was a popular part of the magazine. (It’s called “Advance!”) They were low to medium level phenomena, I guess you could say. The mag also had articles about spiritual practices throughout history. You could probably find these mags online now and see the stories yourself.
There is no greater purpose or objective for Scientology/Miscavige than joining the SO. To the recruiters anything else, ABSOLUTELY anything else just gets in the way and is so wog! They will lie, cheat, steal, you name it to get what they are ordered to do ie sign up new recruits. The pressure a recruiter is under to get someone to sign up is horrific. If they fail to get someone to sign they do indeed get into all sorts of trouble from their seniors. Such is life in the cult!
In the real world, everyone would be happy for Jimmy and circle back in 6 years and suck up some of that engineering pay. But no, 2pm Thursday means spite your nose for only today matters. That mindset was decreed by Lron and his ‘successor’ has only doubled down on that.
The whole Sea bOrg recruitment thing reminds of an old Russian painting where a sled in winter (they don’t work so well in summer) is being chased by a pack of hungry wolves. The riders periodically throw someone out to the wolves to slow them down. It is a race between distance to destination and the number of people that can be thrown off.
All Sea bOrg have been thrown off the sled by their families or by their circumstances in a non-US country. How far is it to ‘Planetary Clearing’?
It’s hard to understand when one of the first things you ‘learn’ in scientology is to not hang around ‘entheta’ and that’s about all that comes out of the mouths of staff members if you don’t tow the line. Hopeful more and more of our young generation see the contradictions much sooner then me 🙂
OH, Sweet Xenu in a tutu, I started laughing in the first frame and I’m still laughing now! Thassum pure D comedy gold!
Print it out, make a bunch of copies, then make sure that every $cilon family with kids who are $ea Orgy recruitment age get a copy, and also make sure they see Chris Shelton’s very detailed and revealing vid on how “chicken hawk” $ea Orgy recruiters seduce, lie to and manipulate young minds in a systematic and well-rehearsed way.
These poor families need to receive outreach help from those who’ve “been there, done that” and can speak to exactly why they need to take active measures to prevent their minor and young adult children from being conned into joining this killer cult.
The Sea Org is a billion year contract, right? Does anyone ever say, well, it’s a billion years, certainly in that context you won’t mind if I wait 20 years to join? It’s only .000002% of the time!
What I love about Regraded Being is how he perfectly uses all those Scientology catch-phrases that everyone is familiar with who’s been part of the church.
“I once lost my keys and found them without even having to look. Sometimes I even know which song they’re going to play on the radio before it even starts.”
I think the key thing has happened to me more than just once. And sometimes I’ll have a song in my head and it just mysteriously comes on the radio. Or I’ll be talking and say a particular word and just a second or two later I will see that word magically appear on a television ad. Or I’ll be looking out for deer crossing the road when I’m driving and sure enough, I’ll see one skip across the road a few minutes later, as if by sheer mental power I was able to draw that event out from my mind and force it to generate in the physical world.
Confirmation bias can run strong in any religious group (I see it expressed fairly often from others in my own practice of the Christian faith), and that especially seems as though it would apply to a religious/philosophical group that believes “what is true for you is true for you”. It’s a fallacy of thought that allows someone to believe that they have some greater insight or inner power that others don’t possess. It’s a way to feel better about one’s potential, especially for those who may be experiencing internal battles of low self-esteem. It can also serve as justification for our own beliefs and preconceived notions, allowing us to not have to face the fear that can grip us when those beliefs are brought into question, whether by ourselves or by someone else.
That type of mentality seems to be a part of our human nature that can allow us to alleviate stress by not having to face uncomfortable realities. However, this type of mentality also seems as though it can be extremely destructive when not taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. It seems very possible to me that this is the trap that many Scientologists (and completely devoted believers of other religions and/or philosophies) fall into…..and any thoughts they may have of attempting to escape that trap seems as though they would find that to be downright terrifying.
When I was first in Scientology, in the early 1980’s, I did some courses, had a few wins and was doing auditor training…all was wonderful, I was all excited. The Sea Org recruiters came on tour, looking to get people to go to Flag and train to be a Class XII auditor…I was first in line to apply. They scheduled me for the next day, to come for the interview.
It started out great, I was young (mid 20’s). The questions were easy: No, I had no debt; Yes, I wanted to help save mankind, No, I was not connected to any pesky people who would thwart me; No, I had never had psych treatment, and it all looked good…I was pumped UP!
The recruiter was visibly elated, this looked to be easy, I would be on a plane to Flag the same day!!!!
Then came the final question: Have you ever taken LSD?
I paused a while…this question surprised me…
Was this a trick question?? How to play it?
After a brief pause, I decided to be honest and blurted out, enthusiastically, YES!
The recruiter was a tiny bit thrown off, maybe this was not to be so easy…
She explained to me that this was most likely not a problem, that often what people THOUGHT was LSD was actually some other drug, who could really be sure what you get from a drug dealer? If you only tried it once or twice it was most likely NOT real LSD.
I was still a bit over excited, and frankly, a bit irritated that someone doubted MY understanding of what drugs I had taken, so blurted out more details of taking LSD and how cool it was, and gave details of the highlights.
She was even more crestfallen now, and tried one last time, she asked “How many times did you take it?
I paused for a moment, calculating…
(Her happy face was starting to fade now)
I had finished my calculations now and merrily announced “Maybe 100 times, you know, plus or minus!!!”
I was like, Do I get a prize? Do I win? Can I go to Flag now?????
Sadly to me at the time, I was NOT accepted…
And this my friends, Is the story of how LSD saved my life!!!!!
Hope you didn’t stay sad for long. Cute story 🙂
In 79 or 80 when my X got recruited to ASHO the same thing happened except she never asked him how many times – she took out some book and read off the LSD ‘symptoms’ and they compared and she (being very experienced and all) told him he had only taken Angel Dust and he could join. He is still there 37 years later. AND… he then forever had a missed withhold (he mentioned to me many times over the 24 years) because he knows it was LSD … come on …. by now I’m sure he’s figured this out.
Maybe he’s out now. He visited daughter #2 this Thursday afternoon and took her to the Grove. Not many SO members take off like that on a Thursday afternoon. I keep my hopes up.
Well, here’s an interesting question: what about psychedelics other than LSD? My first mind-opening trip was on morning glory seeds (oh, yes, they were maximum psychedelics). I did take copious amounts of LSD, as well as peyote and one called DMT. Somehow never took psylocybin, but it would have been reduntant for me by that time in any case. Possibly Hubbard and crew weren’t even aware of these other psychedelics when they formulated the policy (but Aldous Huxley’s “Door of Perception” had been published at the time.
How despicable: trying to tell someone that what they had taken wasn’t LSD.
Whoa, RB how about telling it like it is. Millennials even when raised in the cult are not going for the BS like the gen x generation did. RB you’ve done it again. Spot on.
Unfortunately, BKmole, some of the kids raised in the cult do go for the BS and join the SO. The ones that join I observe are the ones with no education beyond high school, nor training in any worthwhile field of endeavor. (Some of them have even been allowed to drop out of high school.) They’re unemployable except in minimum wage jobs. They have no tools to survive in the world. They’ve probably been working on staff in a Class V org from their teen years while being supported by their Scientology parents. These kids are the low hanging fruit that get convinced to sign the billion year contract. If they’ve been Class V org staff they KNOW how empty their org has been and have a “failed purpose” on which the Sea Org recruiters capitalize in order to assist them in “winning” again. Yeah, the way to REALLY win in Scientology is to join the Sea Org. Trained for nothing, fit for nothing, coddled by their parents, and never having had any kind of real job, steeped in the cult from infancy and having attended only Scientology schools, these kids, these 20 somethings, have no options in life…Sea Org to the rescue. Its very sad, and the well meaning parents have no small part in their kids being in that very sad and vulnerable situation.
Then what happens after the kid goes in the SO, his/her personality morphs into the cold chrome steel valence. The kid starts to have contempt for the parents (siblings, friends, anyone) who is not Sea Org. But their parents are the ones who really get it between the eyes from these kids. Those parents better tow the mark! Donate upon demand! Do what they’re told! Snap and pop and serve the cult because their parents are only lowly wog pond scum and not fit to wipe their cold chrome steel SO kids’ boots. That’s right, the very parents, who with their “wog jobs” raised and nurtured these kids and gave them a Scientology bubble in which to dwell in blissful ignorance for 25 years – they are now considered inferior to their Sea Org children and as such, totally under the cult’s thumb. Its beyond sad, really. Back in the day when I was in, I had such antipathy to these young SO kids I had very little idea why because I had never experienced this before. I like babies, children, teens and young adults. I get along fine with them, always have. Not these SO kids though. And I didn’t really get why they bothered me. Now I do. Its hard to have affinity for a circuit.
Strange…… When I was in scinoland the above is what I thought about sea org recruitment cycles too!!
Nope, they never did get me in. I could eventually see every trick in the book that they were trying to play.
As time went on, and I got increasingly pissed off about scientology, I would simply tell the recruiters that I’d taken LSD. I hadn’t, but they didn’t know that………
Yes, I lied. By this time it was obvious to me that scientology was one BIG lie, so I used to play them at their own game.
“I would simply tell the recruiters that I’d taken LSD. I hadn’t, but they didn’t know that………”
This is not a feasible strategy anymore, today you have to tell them you’re gay:
“Used to be “I’ve taken LSD” was the instant Get Out Of Jail Free card with SO recruiters, but LSD has fallen out of favor and recruiters figured out how to ask a ton of questions and determine “that wasn’t really LSD you took” in their desperation to get people signed up and routed onto the EPF. Nothing you can do about someone who is gay “well, we have determined the other person was not really male/female”?”
Not a lot they could say really. If someone had taken LSD then they were not qualled for the sea org. End of.
As Oren E said though, these days the sea org will try and convince you that it wasn’t actually LSD that you took……. Unbelievable.
Desperation to get people signed up will probably result in the proven reincarnation of Adolph Hitler being head of the CMO. Some people probably think he already is……..
Jimmy seems to have both feet in the real universe and operating with actual reality. Hopefully he was trained by his folks who are similarly adept at critical thinking. The SO recruiters fully fit the definitions of vampires, those seeking to suck out life essences, or Tibetan hungry ghosts, forever hungry for the material world and never satisfied.
Down the spiral the recruiters will go and, someday, into the gutters they will be found with a ragged blanket and empty wine bottle. After COB has sucked the SO recruiters dry. Tragically, the SO do not even see it happening.
Secret for now, I love seeing the gossamer film of BS lifted by your observations. Whether a philosophical post or a cartoon, those datums that are false just need some sunlight and a little look to vaporize.
Your comment was just beautiful. Comments like yours remind me what I love about reading the daily blogs. Healing realizations.
thank you. The “certainty in abilities” line really resonated with me. It was that certainty that kept me fully in and able to weather all manner of idiocies, traumas, injustices, and inconsistencies for the bulk of my life.
Having that suddenly evaporate has been monumental.
All things are possible.
And this blog is indeed a place to feel not so alone.
Hey Mike! I’ve got powers beyond imagination, that makes super powers look puny! However…I’m not allowed to show them to you. I can tell you about them, but, that’s as far as I can go. Sorry Mike.
If you can stand up on a moving surfboard – enough said. Them’s powers you don’t want to frig around with – awesome, wet and with raw energy, plus plenty of motion… ride ’em tall cowboy, wow!
Shooting the curl and hangin’ ten with our arthritic toes….watta life!!
I Yawnalotsays
My jollies these days come from pre-dawn starts in my little boat motoring up a deserted river watching the sunrise. The way the birds and fish come to life is magic, not so much the mosquitoes at times though. It’s amazing to see kangaroos swimming across the river too. They don’t do it often but they do it occasionally – just their head sticking out with a v wake behind them. Lots of sea eagles and wedge-tailed eagles as well – big birds! It’s the most amusing thing in the world but sea eagles actually yap like a dog. It sort of goes against the grain, such a magnificent creature, all majestic in maroon and white, masters of flight (they’ll pinch your fish right off your line too – cheeky sods!) but yap like dogs. The pairs play a sort of tag game too, chasing each other through the tree tops. Yes, having sessions on water – pure magic!
This RB post should be translated into all foreign languages and plastered across the internet so as to warn all foreign “recruits” the cult is going after.
Such a real communication! So robotic and typical! Who will get the money if the cult has to stop its business?
The dwarf…
No worries, the dwarf can use a “short board” to surf…
“Let’s get them cleaned out before they make their decision to blow”.
THAT is the precise stable datum upon which the cult operates are regards its “parishioners”.
Scientology Management KNOWS its only a matter of time before someone leaves or goes UTR, so policy is “soak’em for whatever they have NOW”.
Getting rid of “PTS” or “SP” public is an art OSA has down pat. All they do is show them some LRH such as The Character of the Ethics Officer (it discusses the halls of the org being empty is a sign of an SP on lines) or Criminal Minds and the person cogs the place is being run by an SP and leaves. Why they haven’t had the same cognition themselves yet is in itself, quite fascinating.
Mimsey
“Shut up, Mimsey!” (South Park quote, for anyone who is interested… you’re giving the game away)
No, of course, do NOT shut up Mimsey. You nailed it. If the halls of the org are empty, there must be an SP lurking about. In fact if the active parishioner count is dropping since a certain little COB took the wheel, might the very same COB be the actual SP? LRH is spinning in his Van Allen Belt location as we speak.
Elron spoke to exactly that point when he observed that whenever a bunch of people suddenly start getting declared and messed with in an area, it’s the person in charge who’s the SP, NOT the folks he’s been messing with.
Why these silly $cilons can’t seem to grasp this incredibly simple point, despite having Elron tell them exactly what’s up, is simply astonishing to me!
I’m so scared to say this and unleash it… 4chan has heard you. Please use L. Ron Hubbard’s words against him and his “church”.
A couple of “get out of the SO recruit cycle” cards to play:
1. I have taken LSD
2. I once attempted (or thought of) suicide
3. I have a GO history (but you’d be so old now you probably don’t qualify anyway).
4. I served in Military Intelligence / worked for the Police/CIA/FBI
5. My uncle/aunt/*-* (insert family member here) is a Psychiatrist and/or anti-SCN
6. I have a criminal record
7. I’ve been on Psych meds and/or was once hospitalised for a Psych condition.
Of course all of the above could be total BS, but who cares? After all, SCN says it’s okay to prevaricate if it’s “for the greatest good” and believe me, NOT joining the SO is definitely the greatest good for YOUR dynamics.
They’re more than likely to leave you alone and pursue an easier target than try clean up whatever “issue” you have involving hours and hours of tedious CSWs, amends projects, case clean-ups and the like. But Suicide, Psych history & LSD is a total no-go zone and you’re not likely to be harassed again.
I was a teenager during the 1970s and took a lot of LSD and loved it. One of my best friends, who had grown up pretty sheltered and had never done any kind of drug, asked me when we were both 19 years old or so, if she could do it with me next time. I told her that no, I didn’t feel comfortable with that because I wasn’t sure she could handle it (and a trip lasts for hours). She was so disappointed and I felt really guilty about it.
Fast forward to the early 80s when she was exposed to Scientology via a mutual friend of ours and joined staff fulltime…earning $5-10 a week sometimes…and she was recruited into the Sea Org and was off to Flag. She called to thank me profusely for talking her out of that LSD experience, otherwise she would have been disqualified to join the Sea Org.
She’s still there. If I had only known. Even dealing with her having a bad trip back then would have been better than the SO.
Wow! What a turn around! As I’ve said before, I dropped acid once, in college. A SO recruiting team came into the Honolulu mission. I was staff at the time. When they ask about acid, that was it for me. And the thing was, if I hadn’t done acid, I might have joined the SO.
Tune in, turn on, drop out, disqualify yourself from the Sea Org.
Escaping the slippery slope of crossing the bridge to nowhere….going up only to have someone grease the slide to have you slip back down again…Ain’t life in CO$ grand.
Jim sounds like he is on the *real* bridge to total freedom.
Obviously that kid has been exposed to OUTSIDE INFLUENCES and the parents are too namby-pamby to tell the church to ‘fuck off’ because they don’t have the strength of their convictions. They’re possibly afraid they might lose contact with some no-account family member who will choose ‘clearing this sector of the Galaxy’ over them in a disconnection.
HAHAHA “what are you going to write in your KR?” ” I don’t except that you were no fucking help” LOL Sounds about right they both write each other up in the KR in hopes of deflecting the shit-storm away from themselves. And they both try to nail the kid for good measure? Never a dull moment reading this stuff.
It’s like North Korea, the KGB, the East German Stasi, and my old nosey next door neighbor, combined and on steroids. What a lovely religion hatched out of the broken mind of LRH.
Thanks RB. So.beautiful built up.
I don’t understand why being an engineer is a bad thing? Being in accord with the Laws of Physics….does that mean OTs can supposedly violate the Laws of Physics? Like flying, gravity not applying to an OT, stuff like that?
Sorry if this question sounds silly. Thanking you.
In this case being anything except a duped, robotic Sea Org member is a bad thing in the eyes of other Sea Org members.
Back in the 70’s the magazine of AOLA, the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles, one of the locations where you do the OT levels, used to print “OT Phenomena” success stories. People on their OT levels would write short stories or wins about doing some things that would defy the physical universe. It was a popular part of the magazine. (It’s called “Advance!”) They were low to medium level phenomena, I guess you could say. The mag also had articles about spiritual practices throughout history. You could probably find these mags online now and see the stories yourself.
Not a silly question. Yes, a very large percentage actually believe that stuff.
Wait….WTF??? Seriously, Scientology is one big fraud? Crap! Guess I won’t get my money back…
OTVIII’s are superior to physics, but they “Don’t do party tricks”, so nobody has witnessed this phenomenon in the wild.
What about the not so wild?
There is no greater purpose or objective for Scientology/Miscavige than joining the SO. To the recruiters anything else, ABSOLUTELY anything else just gets in the way and is so wog! They will lie, cheat, steal, you name it to get what they are ordered to do ie sign up new recruits. The pressure a recruiter is under to get someone to sign up is horrific. If they fail to get someone to sign they do indeed get into all sorts of trouble from their seniors. Such is life in the cult!
Gosh, I Yawn, you make them sound like criminals. And here I thought they were the most ethical people on the planet. I’m so confused…
In the real world, everyone would be happy for Jimmy and circle back in 6 years and suck up some of that engineering pay. But no, 2pm Thursday means spite your nose for only today matters. That mindset was decreed by Lron and his ‘successor’ has only doubled down on that.
The whole Sea bOrg recruitment thing reminds of an old Russian painting where a sled in winter (they don’t work so well in summer) is being chased by a pack of hungry wolves. The riders periodically throw someone out to the wolves to slow them down. It is a race between distance to destination and the number of people that can be thrown off.
All Sea bOrg have been thrown off the sled by their families or by their circumstances in a non-US country. How far is it to ‘Planetary Clearing’?
It’s hard to understand when one of the first things you ‘learn’ in scientology is to not hang around ‘entheta’ and that’s about all that comes out of the mouths of staff members if you don’t tow the line. Hopeful more and more of our young generation see the contradictions much sooner then me 🙂
OH, Sweet Xenu in a tutu, I started laughing in the first frame and I’m still laughing now! Thassum pure D comedy gold!
Print it out, make a bunch of copies, then make sure that every $cilon family with kids who are $ea Orgy recruitment age get a copy, and also make sure they see Chris Shelton’s very detailed and revealing vid on how “chicken hawk” $ea Orgy recruiters seduce, lie to and manipulate young minds in a systematic and well-rehearsed way.
These poor families need to receive outreach help from those who’ve “been there, done that” and can speak to exactly why they need to take active measures to prevent their minor and young adult children from being conned into joining this killer cult.
The Sea Org is a billion year contract, right? Does anyone ever say, well, it’s a billion years, certainly in that context you won’t mind if I wait 20 years to join? It’s only .000002% of the time!
Shoulda thought of that when they asked me.
back in the day, behind closed doors, we would say, “I am going to wait and see how many renew their contract”
Yes you should have! Now go to ethics.
What I love about Regraded Being is how he perfectly uses all those Scientology catch-phrases that everyone is familiar with who’s been part of the church.
RB always nails it.
“Scientology catch phrases” What are you dramatizing? Some kind of psych CI bulls*!t? Only DBs or SPs talk like that.
Now that’s a standard Scio cycle of action – good one RB!
“I once lost my keys and found them without even having to look. Sometimes I even know which song they’re going to play on the radio before it even starts.”
I think the key thing has happened to me more than just once. And sometimes I’ll have a song in my head and it just mysteriously comes on the radio. Or I’ll be talking and say a particular word and just a second or two later I will see that word magically appear on a television ad. Or I’ll be looking out for deer crossing the road when I’m driving and sure enough, I’ll see one skip across the road a few minutes later, as if by sheer mental power I was able to draw that event out from my mind and force it to generate in the physical world.
Confirmation bias can run strong in any religious group (I see it expressed fairly often from others in my own practice of the Christian faith), and that especially seems as though it would apply to a religious/philosophical group that believes “what is true for you is true for you”. It’s a fallacy of thought that allows someone to believe that they have some greater insight or inner power that others don’t possess. It’s a way to feel better about one’s potential, especially for those who may be experiencing internal battles of low self-esteem. It can also serve as justification for our own beliefs and preconceived notions, allowing us to not have to face the fear that can grip us when those beliefs are brought into question, whether by ourselves or by someone else.
That type of mentality seems to be a part of our human nature that can allow us to alleviate stress by not having to face uncomfortable realities. However, this type of mentality also seems as though it can be extremely destructive when not taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. It seems very possible to me that this is the trap that many Scientologists (and completely devoted believers of other religions and/or philosophies) fall into…..and any thoughts they may have of attempting to escape that trap seems as though they would find that to be downright terrifying.
Excellent! Good job!
When I was first in Scientology, in the early 1980’s, I did some courses, had a few wins and was doing auditor training…all was wonderful, I was all excited. The Sea Org recruiters came on tour, looking to get people to go to Flag and train to be a Class XII auditor…I was first in line to apply. They scheduled me for the next day, to come for the interview.
It started out great, I was young (mid 20’s). The questions were easy: No, I had no debt; Yes, I wanted to help save mankind, No, I was not connected to any pesky people who would thwart me; No, I had never had psych treatment, and it all looked good…I was pumped UP!
The recruiter was visibly elated, this looked to be easy, I would be on a plane to Flag the same day!!!!
Then came the final question: Have you ever taken LSD?
I paused a while…this question surprised me…
Was this a trick question?? How to play it?
After a brief pause, I decided to be honest and blurted out, enthusiastically, YES!
The recruiter was a tiny bit thrown off, maybe this was not to be so easy…
She explained to me that this was most likely not a problem, that often what people THOUGHT was LSD was actually some other drug, who could really be sure what you get from a drug dealer? If you only tried it once or twice it was most likely NOT real LSD.
I was still a bit over excited, and frankly, a bit irritated that someone doubted MY understanding of what drugs I had taken, so blurted out more details of taking LSD and how cool it was, and gave details of the highlights.
She was even more crestfallen now, and tried one last time, she asked “How many times did you take it?
I paused for a moment, calculating…
(Her happy face was starting to fade now)
I had finished my calculations now and merrily announced “Maybe 100 times, you know, plus or minus!!!”
I was like, Do I get a prize? Do I win? Can I go to Flag now?????
Sadly to me at the time, I was NOT accepted…
And this my friends, Is the story of how LSD saved my life!!!!!
Hope you didn’t stay sad for long. Cute story 🙂
In 79 or 80 when my X got recruited to ASHO the same thing happened except she never asked him how many times – she took out some book and read off the LSD ‘symptoms’ and they compared and she (being very experienced and all) told him he had only taken Angel Dust and he could join. He is still there 37 years later. AND… he then forever had a missed withhold (he mentioned to me many times over the 24 years) because he knows it was LSD … come on …. by now I’m sure he’s figured this out.
Maybe he’s out now. He visited daughter #2 this Thursday afternoon and took her to the Grove. Not many SO members take off like that on a Thursday afternoon. I keep my hopes up.
LSD! It’s not just for tripping anymore!
I never took LSD. But I *always* told the SO recruiters I did!
Well, here’s an interesting question: what about psychedelics other than LSD? My first mind-opening trip was on morning glory seeds (oh, yes, they were maximum psychedelics). I did take copious amounts of LSD, as well as peyote and one called DMT. Somehow never took psylocybin, but it would have been reduntant for me by that time in any case. Possibly Hubbard and crew weren’t even aware of these other psychedelics when they formulated the policy (but Aldous Huxley’s “Door of Perception” had been published at the time.
How despicable: trying to tell someone that what they had taken wasn’t LSD.
All I can say is, these RB comic strips are works of genius. I hope they become available in book form someday.
I hope so, too!
Whoa, RB how about telling it like it is. Millennials even when raised in the cult are not going for the BS like the gen x generation did. RB you’ve done it again. Spot on.
RB starts our weekends off right.
Unfortunately, BKmole, some of the kids raised in the cult do go for the BS and join the SO. The ones that join I observe are the ones with no education beyond high school, nor training in any worthwhile field of endeavor. (Some of them have even been allowed to drop out of high school.) They’re unemployable except in minimum wage jobs. They have no tools to survive in the world. They’ve probably been working on staff in a Class V org from their teen years while being supported by their Scientology parents. These kids are the low hanging fruit that get convinced to sign the billion year contract. If they’ve been Class V org staff they KNOW how empty their org has been and have a “failed purpose” on which the Sea Org recruiters capitalize in order to assist them in “winning” again. Yeah, the way to REALLY win in Scientology is to join the Sea Org. Trained for nothing, fit for nothing, coddled by their parents, and never having had any kind of real job, steeped in the cult from infancy and having attended only Scientology schools, these kids, these 20 somethings, have no options in life…Sea Org to the rescue. Its very sad, and the well meaning parents have no small part in their kids being in that very sad and vulnerable situation.
Then what happens after the kid goes in the SO, his/her personality morphs into the cold chrome steel valence. The kid starts to have contempt for the parents (siblings, friends, anyone) who is not Sea Org. But their parents are the ones who really get it between the eyes from these kids. Those parents better tow the mark! Donate upon demand! Do what they’re told! Snap and pop and serve the cult because their parents are only lowly wog pond scum and not fit to wipe their cold chrome steel SO kids’ boots. That’s right, the very parents, who with their “wog jobs” raised and nurtured these kids and gave them a Scientology bubble in which to dwell in blissful ignorance for 25 years – they are now considered inferior to their Sea Org children and as such, totally under the cult’s thumb. Its beyond sad, really. Back in the day when I was in, I had such antipathy to these young SO kids I had very little idea why because I had never experienced this before. I like babies, children, teens and young adults. I get along fine with them, always have. Not these SO kids though. And I didn’t really get why they bothered me. Now I do. Its hard to have affinity for a circuit.
All true, except it happens in your teens, not your twenties.
And you usually don’t even finish highschool.
Strange…… When I was in scinoland the above is what I thought about sea org recruitment cycles too!!
Nope, they never did get me in. I could eventually see every trick in the book that they were trying to play.
As time went on, and I got increasingly pissed off about scientology, I would simply tell the recruiters that I’d taken LSD. I hadn’t, but they didn’t know that………
Yes, I lied. By this time it was obvious to me that scientology was one BIG lie, so I used to play them at their own game.
LSD saved me from the cult.
Best trip I ever took too. Destination No-So.
It’s remarkable what an iddy biddy bit of blotting paper can do hey?
My roommate wanted to go up to SD State and play ping pong. I said ok, but, you have to drive because all the cars are melting…
“I would simply tell the recruiters that I’d taken LSD. I hadn’t, but they didn’t know that………”
This is not a feasible strategy anymore, today you have to tell them you’re gay:
“Used to be “I’ve taken LSD” was the instant Get Out Of Jail Free card with SO recruiters, but LSD has fallen out of favor and recruiters figured out how to ask a ton of questions and determine “that wasn’t really LSD you took” in their desperation to get people signed up and routed onto the EPF. Nothing you can do about someone who is gay “well, we have determined the other person was not really male/female”?”
Source: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-homophobia/
You didn’t lie my friend, you told an “acceptable truth.” Same one I did!! HAHA
I accept your truth, Tommy J.
I wanna know what they said when you told them you had taken LSD?
They said: You had a bad dream about taking LSD. Now, sign this God Damn contact! I need the stat!
Hi Marie.
Not a lot they could say really. If someone had taken LSD then they were not qualled for the sea org. End of.
As Oren E said though, these days the sea org will try and convince you that it wasn’t actually LSD that you took……. Unbelievable.
Desperation to get people signed up will probably result in the proven reincarnation of Adolph Hitler being head of the CMO. Some people probably think he already is……..
Interesting! I am obsessed with cos. Thank you for replying, guys:)
That’s how I got out of the reg cycle. Good ole LSD! Disgusting entity Scientology!
Delicious RB,
Jimmy seems to have both feet in the real universe and operating with actual reality. Hopefully he was trained by his folks who are similarly adept at critical thinking. The SO recruiters fully fit the definitions of vampires, those seeking to suck out life essences, or Tibetan hungry ghosts, forever hungry for the material world and never satisfied.
Down the spiral the recruiters will go and, someday, into the gutters they will be found with a ragged blanket and empty wine bottle. After COB has sucked the SO recruiters dry. Tragically, the SO do not even see it happening.
Mock up a bridge!!! Xenu almighty, they’re smoking some powerful dung!
If they can mock up a bridge, it should be child’s play to mock up $100 bills…
RB – you capture the essence of What Is Scientology – for sure!!
Very Well Done!~
??? Love you RB, thank you.
“once you achieve certainty about your own abilities you don’t need to believe anything or prove anything to anyone”.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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this is the gossamer wisp rock solid foundation.
it’s there and real as any purple dragon in the living room. And when it’s gone it’s gone.
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Thank you. These are the un-mind-f*cking tiny healing realizations that have been helping me cope and gain some peace.
Secret for now, I love seeing the gossamer film of BS lifted by your observations. Whether a philosophical post or a cartoon, those datums that are false just need some sunlight and a little look to vaporize.
Your comment was just beautiful. Comments like yours remind me what I love about reading the daily blogs. Healing realizations.
Thank you both. Complete agreement.
thank you. The “certainty in abilities” line really resonated with me. It was that certainty that kept me fully in and able to weather all manner of idiocies, traumas, injustices, and inconsistencies for the bulk of my life.
Having that suddenly evaporate has been monumental.
All things are possible.
And this blog is indeed a place to feel not so alone.
L. Con’s Scamology in a nutshell!
Hey Mike! I’ve got powers beyond imagination, that makes super powers look puny! However…I’m not allowed to show them to you. I can tell you about them, but, that’s as far as I can go. Sorry Mike.
I like TOTALLY understand dude!
I knew you would. You’re just so forgiving.
If you can stand up on a moving surfboard – enough said. Them’s powers you don’t want to frig around with – awesome, wet and with raw energy, plus plenty of motion… ride ’em tall cowboy, wow!
I paddled out this morning. Surf was 3 to 5 feet. Had a nice session.
Where did you surf? I need to get back in the water asap.
Bolsa Chica State Beach in Huntington Beach.
Shooting the curl and hangin’ ten with our arthritic toes….watta life!!
My jollies these days come from pre-dawn starts in my little boat motoring up a deserted river watching the sunrise. The way the birds and fish come to life is magic, not so much the mosquitoes at times though. It’s amazing to see kangaroos swimming across the river too. They don’t do it often but they do it occasionally – just their head sticking out with a v wake behind them. Lots of sea eagles and wedge-tailed eagles as well – big birds! It’s the most amusing thing in the world but sea eagles actually yap like a dog. It sort of goes against the grain, such a magnificent creature, all majestic in maroon and white, masters of flight (they’ll pinch your fish right off your line too – cheeky sods!) but yap like dogs. The pairs play a sort of tag game too, chasing each other through the tree tops. Yes, having sessions on water – pure magic!
BRAVO!