I remote viewed about the OT levels above OT VIII years ago, I saw LRH taking all the levels with him to the grave, he did not leave them for COB, because he knew about him but did not let on.
“What would be the point of going up the bridge, if one is never going to reach the top ” Of course this suggests that all the steps on the bridge, including the much celebrated state of clear are worthless unless one reaches the top. Whatever that is.
In Catholicism (Or any other form of Christianity) they tell you about Jesus Christ up front. In Scientology you have to pay for several levels before you hear about Lord Xenu. When Professor David Fitzgerald asserts that that there was no Jesus Christ he lays out his argument. Professor Fitzgerald even wrote a book on the nonexistence of Jesus Christ. Hubbard simply asserted that there was no Christ. There are more Catholics in the city of Minneapolis than there are Scientologists worldwide right now.
If you’re referring to David Fitzgerald, the author of “NAILED: Ten Christian Myths that Show Jesus Never Existed at All” then i don’t think he’s a professor (http://davidfitzgerald.org/bio/). Not that that affects the validity of his arguments.
Is that your point? Religion asserts whereas Science follows the arguments and evidence?
Otherles, I was just thinking about this. I understand reading a series of books or articles, or watching any series to find out what develops. It keeps you coming back for more, and that’s part of the entertainment. With any religion I am aware of– other than the cult of scientology– they do talk about the centrality of their deity or deities or forces, if you will. Then you learn more detail and come to a fuller understanding as you go along and practice your faith / religion.
I believe that L. Ron Hubbard was literally a mad genius who wrote pulp fiction and then developed it into his little world where he is the Wizard of Oz. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It’s fascinating fiction.
David Miscavige is a malignant narcissist. He’s the Oliver Cromwell of the cult of scientology.
Even if you “reach” the “Top of the Bridge”®, you’re destined to require a re-tread and re-do of everything you attested to because Dwarfenführer® has redesigned (almost) everything from the ground up.
I have some friends still in that after 20 years are still trying to go up the bridge. The falsehood hidden into scn is such that one can’t belleve it unless he wakes up from trying to become someone else he won’t become except only in his delusional mind.
This keeps them as volunteer prisoners waiting to be freed.
The total blind acceptance of hubbard blabbling is what makes them to believe to be progressing somewhere. But they aren’t.
Lucky that I woke up. Thanks Mike for what you have done.
Lucky that we woke up, LoosingMyReligion. Now just imagine that someone “under the radar” reads this blog today. That person probably has no idea what “waking up” from Scientology means.
How could an ex-Scientologist convey to a Scientologist in Good Standing that life would better for them if they walked away from scientology?
Waking up from Scientology is most likely a very personal experience, very unique to the person experiencing it. I’d venture to say that our arrival into Scientology and our exit from it are equally unique.
If you are under the radar and are reading this blog, then you have made the first step toward freedom.
Thank you Fred. Right. I’m not under any radar since over 10 years. I agree with what you say about experiencing joining and then waking up and leaving scn. I could understand this better since I begun praticing meditation years ago. Personal experience is senior in life.
and the Subgenius followers fell for it, and never realized they could never come back from the dead to collect.
the “New” Church of Subgenius could quadruple and fiveX and tenX the money back, and get the same result. Dupes would fall for increased lies which they couldn’t ever disprove.
Scientology: The World’s Greatest False Promising New Religion Ever, Better Than All Other False Promising Faux Religions of the Past
Evidence:
a) LRH said he’s going to go do the OT running program on himself (soul fly around a distant star to rejuvenate himself)
b) LRH’s worksession paper from his supposed OT 10 session which Pat Broeker held up at the LRH death event. LRH was trying to find past lives bad karma hidden zillions of years ago in our soul memories, and Scientology has yet to come out with the higher quackery pseudo-therapy for scientology’s members to dig and find these ancient bad karma we suffer still from.
Any good con faux religion has to make iron clad false claims impossible to prove or deny the members’ “rights” to pursue those false promised claims.
When I was deep in the Scientology mindset, the subject, the training on the Hubbard theories to become an “auditor” so that I could do the quackery of Scientology, was what I thought “we” all should be doing in our spare time.
Busy ourselves becoming theoretically proficient in the “auditing” quackery practice, is what I thought, and all TV news watching, etc, was just other fish to fry.
hard core Scientology meant study LRH tech vols in your spare time, LOL. Get proficient in the whole LRH writings history of the subject, is where to spend one’s spare moments.
I saw all Scientology participation as a sliding scale of people interested in the details of Hubbard’s output, period. His output always leads to the “tech” (quackery theory and practice writings of his), and study of the quackery history, was what everyone either does to a small degree, not at all, or does it hard core, getting trained, and not stopping getting to the highest training level one could capably get to.
Scientology is a study and do it quackery subject. Promoting Scientology to just make it more important than all other things in people’s lives, is how I secretly graded all participants in the movement. Either people spent their spare time reading and continuing their training, or they were lower on the scale of participation.
Hubbard left such a massively long runway of the writings behind the quackery, it will take any participant years to get through it, and almost all NEVER get through all his writings on the quackery.
Quackery study and training extent of, is how I thought one had to grade their fellow Scientologists. Period.
Blot out the world with Hubbard’s quackery training, was the obvious way to keep the members from the world’s “entheta.”
That biggest all time important theme for Scientology promotion was and always will be to get the members trained, and the quackery training stepladder is just so long and arduous and impossible, but it is one of the balls Miscavige never ending fails to keep juggling and keeps dropping.
Miscavige’s (or anyone else’s in the future) one man band management of the movement, or their “council management” system which is the one Hubbard left them and which Miscavige has decimated, both methods (the smart cut above the other managers style of Miscavige, or the council group management method) are doomed.
The quackery runway of Hubbard’s is futile since it’s quackery. But that is the Hubbard path, it’s just a long drawn out path of quackery that doesn’t achieve its promises, but that’s the point.
Get the members consumed with the quackery runway to blot out the world’s entheta. Keep hitting them with loyalty to the quackery solution to the world’s problems and get them always training and studying.
That’s the solution of the stretched out false promising Scientology subject. Keep pushing the long runway training in the quackery, which is always out of reach achieving, let alone the quackery fails all who think it is the ultimate panacea to the world’s ills.
Long false promising, and long never ending training to be the practitioner of the quackery false promising group, that heavily penalizes and backlashes on the followers, to keep them on the long never ending path.
DesS says
I remote viewed about the OT levels above OT VIII years ago, I saw LRH taking all the levels with him to the grave, he did not leave them for COB, because he knew about him but did not let on.
xTeamXenuForeverBTexorcismForEveryone says
Is that an OT joke? (Oops, even if you didn’t mean it as a joke, it suffices as one.)
Elwrong says
“What would be the point of going up the bridge, if one is never going to reach the top ” Of course this suggests that all the steps on the bridge, including the much celebrated state of clear are worthless unless one reaches the top. Whatever that is.
otherles says
In Catholicism (Or any other form of Christianity) they tell you about Jesus Christ up front. In Scientology you have to pay for several levels before you hear about Lord Xenu. When Professor David Fitzgerald asserts that that there was no Jesus Christ he lays out his argument. Professor Fitzgerald even wrote a book on the nonexistence of Jesus Christ. Hubbard simply asserted that there was no Christ. There are more Catholics in the city of Minneapolis than there are Scientologists worldwide right now.
James Rosso says
If you’re referring to David Fitzgerald, the author of “NAILED: Ten Christian Myths that Show Jesus Never Existed at All” then i don’t think he’s a professor (http://davidfitzgerald.org/bio/). Not that that affects the validity of his arguments.
Is that your point? Religion asserts whereas Science follows the arguments and evidence?
otherles says
Religion does assert whereas Science does follow the arguments and evidence.
Linda Olsen says
Otherles, I was just thinking about this. I understand reading a series of books or articles, or watching any series to find out what develops. It keeps you coming back for more, and that’s part of the entertainment. With any religion I am aware of– other than the cult of scientology– they do talk about the centrality of their deity or deities or forces, if you will. Then you learn more detail and come to a fuller understanding as you go along and practice your faith / religion.
I believe that L. Ron Hubbard was literally a mad genius who wrote pulp fiction and then developed it into his little world where he is the Wizard of Oz. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It’s fascinating fiction.
David Miscavige is a malignant narcissist. He’s the Oliver Cromwell of the cult of scientology.
otherles says
I think you’re giving DM too much credit.
Jere Lull says
Even if you “reach” the “Top of the Bridge”®, you’re destined to require a re-tread and re-do of everything you attested to because Dwarfenführer® has redesigned (almost) everything from the ground up.
Linda Olsen says
It’s a good gig. For him.
LoosingMyReligion says
I have some friends still in that after 20 years are still trying to go up the bridge. The falsehood hidden into scn is such that one can’t belleve it unless he wakes up from trying to become someone else he won’t become except only in his delusional mind.
This keeps them as volunteer prisoners waiting to be freed.
The total blind acceptance of hubbard blabbling is what makes them to believe to be progressing somewhere. But they aren’t.
Lucky that I woke up. Thanks Mike for what you have done.
Fred G. Haseney says
Lucky that we woke up, LoosingMyReligion. Now just imagine that someone “under the radar” reads this blog today. That person probably has no idea what “waking up” from Scientology means.
How could an ex-Scientologist convey to a Scientologist in Good Standing that life would better for them if they walked away from scientology?
Waking up from Scientology is most likely a very personal experience, very unique to the person experiencing it. I’d venture to say that our arrival into Scientology and our exit from it are equally unique.
If you are under the radar and are reading this blog, then you have made the first step toward freedom.
LoosingMyReligion says
Thank you Fred. Right. I’m not under any radar since over 10 years. I agree with what you say about experiencing joining and then waking up and leaving scn. I could understand this better since I begun praticing meditation years ago. Personal experience is senior in life.
Jere Lull says
It’s the first step inTRUE freedom™
otherles says
The Church of the Subgenius promised eternal salvation or triple your money back.
xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty says
and the Subgenius followers fell for it, and never realized they could never come back from the dead to collect.
the “New” Church of Subgenius could quadruple and fiveX and tenX the money back, and get the same result. Dupes would fall for increased lies which they couldn’t ever disprove.
Scientology: The World’s Greatest False Promising New Religion Ever, Better Than All Other False Promising Faux Religions of the Past
Evidence:
a) LRH said he’s going to go do the OT running program on himself (soul fly around a distant star to rejuvenate himself)
b) LRH’s worksession paper from his supposed OT 10 session which Pat Broeker held up at the LRH death event. LRH was trying to find past lives bad karma hidden zillions of years ago in our soul memories, and Scientology has yet to come out with the higher quackery pseudo-therapy for scientology’s members to dig and find these ancient bad karma we suffer still from.
Any good con faux religion has to make iron clad false claims impossible to prove or deny the members’ “rights” to pursue those false promised claims.
Fred G. Haseney says
Hi, Mike
The 3rd frame in today’s RB appears to be a repeat of the first frame, and the story itself doesn’t appear to have a resolution.
Fred
Mike Rinder says
Sorry, my error in loading, now fixed
Jere Lull says
There is NO “resolution” to be had other than escaping the traps Ron set.
xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty says
Panel 1 and Panel 3, is there any difference?
When I was deep in the Scientology mindset, the subject, the training on the Hubbard theories to become an “auditor” so that I could do the quackery of Scientology, was what I thought “we” all should be doing in our spare time.
Busy ourselves becoming theoretically proficient in the “auditing” quackery practice, is what I thought, and all TV news watching, etc, was just other fish to fry.
hard core Scientology meant study LRH tech vols in your spare time, LOL. Get proficient in the whole LRH writings history of the subject, is where to spend one’s spare moments.
I saw all Scientology participation as a sliding scale of people interested in the details of Hubbard’s output, period. His output always leads to the “tech” (quackery theory and practice writings of his), and study of the quackery history, was what everyone either does to a small degree, not at all, or does it hard core, getting trained, and not stopping getting to the highest training level one could capably get to.
Scientology is a study and do it quackery subject. Promoting Scientology to just make it more important than all other things in people’s lives, is how I secretly graded all participants in the movement. Either people spent their spare time reading and continuing their training, or they were lower on the scale of participation.
Hubbard left such a massively long runway of the writings behind the quackery, it will take any participant years to get through it, and almost all NEVER get through all his writings on the quackery.
Quackery study and training extent of, is how I thought one had to grade their fellow Scientologists. Period.
Blot out the world with Hubbard’s quackery training, was the obvious way to keep the members from the world’s “entheta.”
That biggest all time important theme for Scientology promotion was and always will be to get the members trained, and the quackery training stepladder is just so long and arduous and impossible, but it is one of the balls Miscavige never ending fails to keep juggling and keeps dropping.
Miscavige’s (or anyone else’s in the future) one man band management of the movement, or their “council management” system which is the one Hubbard left them and which Miscavige has decimated, both methods (the smart cut above the other managers style of Miscavige, or the council group management method) are doomed.
The quackery runway of Hubbard’s is futile since it’s quackery. But that is the Hubbard path, it’s just a long drawn out path of quackery that doesn’t achieve its promises, but that’s the point.
Get the members consumed with the quackery runway to blot out the world’s entheta. Keep hitting them with loyalty to the quackery solution to the world’s problems and get them always training and studying.
That’s the solution of the stretched out false promising Scientology subject. Keep pushing the long runway training in the quackery, which is always out of reach achieving, let alone the quackery fails all who think it is the ultimate panacea to the world’s ills.
Long false promising, and long never ending training to be the practitioner of the quackery false promising group, that heavily penalizes and backlashes on the followers, to keep them on the long never ending path.
Mike Rinder says
Sorry, now fixed