For the Demented Midget to wake up in a cold sweat, he’d have to be able to EXPERIENCE emotions, not just simulate them to manipulate others. If he’s aware of the effects he creates, that he doesn’t care is quietly obvious. At least to those of us outside of the bubble.
I see them everyday 6 months of videos pictures advertising as were they live as far as protesting slim like they are .I haven’t got a response suing the IRS and Federal reserve that owns Hollywood .DO you think it will work ??
Hmm, something tells me that poor Jenny’s husband isn’t the only one being fed some BS about how cheap the others are being. I’d be willing to bet that more than just a handful of those other “Hey la di La” folks will probably be told just how cheap Jenny and her husband are after they “set the standard”….and that those other folks need to really dig deep in an effort to truly show those two “cheap-ass degraded beings” what “real commitment” looks like.
Denigrating folks behind their backs and pitting folks against all the others in their own little “group”…..all in the name of a goal of making people feel better about themselves, ending all conflict, and unifying mankind. Sure, that makes sense…..
Bull’s eye as usual.Depicts 2017 in it’s regressive cheesiness.Reminds me of a once moderately success Aloe Vera MLM distributor company that has fallen on hard times.
Thanks as always RB for giving us a front seat inside the bubble.
And as usual full of those beautiful details.The cheesy look of the singer,the colors,the text of older bended people singing we stand tall.
God, I’m SO glad I ejected way back. But I don’t know what is worse; paying for nothing or, paying and having to sit is a chair (wasting time) and expose yourself to L. Con’s “auditing” cum insania on TOP of paying hard earned cash.
When Lois and I were faking our allegiance to SCN, in an attempt to keep 2 of our sons, we went to a couple of fund raisers. Having not been associated with SCN for about 30 years or so I didn’t know that they seriously believed that everyone who attended was supposed to donate something. We stuck around for their stupid talk about Flag and the Fort Harrison, had our dinner and then walked out of the conference room heading towards our car. Some a-hole shouted “Hey! Where are you 2 going?”, like I was breaking some rule. No one talks to me that way unless they are paying my salary and even then, that would be pushing it. I told him we’re going home and kept walking. I think he knew I wasn’t about to take any shit from this punk SO member and nothing further was discussed and I was happily having a beer at my home 30 minutes later.
The average SCN public appear to be so afraid of these guys. They actually act as if they have to obey them. They all need to grow a pair and tell the SO dicks to eff-off. They kind of respect that.
Love your comment, CPO. I hated most of those pushy, bossy Sea Org sons of bitches, male and female alike. I would boil with anger inside at the way they talked to us, ordering us around, and especially how they talked to the staff of my org. I liked my Class V org staff but couldn’t stand the SOs, most of them. From the first time I saw one of them, in a uniform, my back went up. I knew nothing about this person, knew nothing about the Sea Org, and yet I had a kind of visceral negative reaction. It wasn’t the blue uniform resembling police or the military. I have no reactive fear or dislike of the police or the military. I don’t know why I reacted like that, knowing nothing. Some instinct – something. I was like a cat that sees something and hisses and arches its back. Especially did I not like the young SO kids. It was visceral on my part and yet I didn’t know why. Well, much later I found out why my instinct or whatever it was was OK, but for a long time I was in mystery about why I couldn’t stand them and figured there was probably something wrong with me, or lacking in me. No other Scientologist of my acquaintance ever admitted a dislike for the Sea Org and its personnel, so I figured I was the only one who couldn’t stand them.
Actually, I do know why I couldn’t stand them, which was because I thought they were either obnoxious bossy young brats or annoying adult brats, but I was conflicted because I thought that this sort of thing shouldn’t bother me, because “Scientology wouldn’t be here if not for the Sea Org”.
Sometimes just put someone in a uniform and they develop an air of superiority about themselves. It’s not that the ARE superior, it’s that they FEEL superior to an “underling” who isn’t wearing the “snappy uniform” that THEY feel deserves respect.
Respect within THIS organization should have to be EARNED no matter what age you are, ….they don’t see it that way because they believe by “moving up the bridge” they deserve respect.
All too sad for THEM, so glad you dear friend and others woke up and are making it in the REAL world. As I said before, we can ONLY save ourselves….those who don’t want to be saved or won’t save themselves….they are still in and being controlled by the “Gargoyle, his minions and belief in LRon’s fantasy scie fi hero Xenu……too sad…for THEM.
That’s a troubling part of the Sea Org. They wear uniforms that resemble military, with absolutely no real qualifications to earn them the respect and considerations shown to real members of the military, police, etc. In those organizations one must earn their ‘rank’ and people can safely assume that the person in uniform has the knowledge, skills, and experience to back up whatever status one has been given. What real skills does someone have who has been named a ‘Captain’ in the Sea Org? Want to answer that Captain Miscavige? I’ve heard stories from ex-S.O. members who were given preferential treatments: early boarding on flights, discounts on tickets normally given to military, free meals, etc. The public sees a uniform and automatically assumes that the person wearing it has accomplished things to earn them a superior position, but this isn’t true in the Sea Org.
I’ve been asked lots of times what was it that got me out of scientology and my answer has always been “lots of things” because I wasn’t able to pin point an exact single cause. After reading your comment I now know what it was. It was an attitude I inherited from my dad: NOBODY TALKS TO ME THAT WAY!
If it used to cost somewhere between 500,000$ – 1,000,000$ to move all the way up the bridge, how much additional cost is involved when you add in the current level of forced donations?
Even when I was still in, I learned my lesson with the IAS. I realized that they were like a stray cat that you feed once, and then it keeps coming back because it knows where the food is. At that point you’re locked in with no way out.
Scientologists are true idiots. But since I have left the church, I see a lot of “wogs”. Abd you know what ? They are as sheeple and as idiots. Inhability to spot outpoints is common blindness of the human race.
I diid scientology to be with people not so idiots, there was some, but the great majority were kind of stupids obediants morons. Like any “wogs”.
So I read this repeatedly….am I taking it the wrong way? Surely as a former member of a CULT your not implying that all of us “wogs” are stupid?! If you’re such an extremely intelligent being why do you not at the very least spell check? As a flawed human I’m forever amazed at the practice of denigrating others to feel better about ourselves. I hope your superior life works well for you.
I have a hard life. I depend on doctors to survive until I can get a transplant. Those doctors are for the most of them completely robotics. They just obey their protocole, have stats, think about just keeping their privilege, and don’t understand people for the most of them. Have you ever read Hannah Arendt, with the banality of evil ? Otherwise they don’t care, feel no compassion they are not better than the sea org member on the RB story.
Scientology as a subject was bringing hope, practice of scientology by human being was a complete failure, as the practice of occidental medicine, coasting huge money for poor result. Not for lack of technology, but for lack of human intelligence, lack of compassion, lack of understanding.
And you have the same things in politics. This is why I talk of banality of evil. You only need sheeple to create something like Auschwitz, don’t need evil people, just obedient people who believethey do good, don’t ever question anything.
Scientology became such a thing, and it’s a pity, as it raised so much hope. By-ut if you never practice scientologyyou just can’t see the good and the bad of it.
You are a “wog”. A wog is someone who isn’t even trying said Hubbard. For me a wog is someone who just follow the tide. Scientologidts in the church are pure wogs, as well as pure anti-scientologists, and most the obedient, unconscious human race.
Good point, I agree. People are commonly so robotic (and/or so PTS, especially in the cherch). Personnally I had got very good results from Scientology (and I mean very very good results) only in two situations:
1) when I stopped listening to scn people and start thinking and looking by myself with Scientology data (even if it did not look “good” for the “good” people in the cherch)
2) when being listened by a skilled auditor who was really caring about me (and not caring for his own stats). That happened only once and this auditor has been fired a few weeks later by a couple of angry SO (in a very suicidal-scientology style) !
Not being robotic, thinking by oneself : strangely these are parts of the definition of OT, the true goal of Scientology.
FG is not saying that all non-Scientologists are stupid. He’s saying that many Scientologists are stupid because they unable to spot outpoints. He’s also making the point that the inability to spot outpoints is not necessarily limited to Scientologists but that many non-Scientologist are also unable to spot outpoints.
Sheeple is a good name for Scientologists. Even sheeple dramatize a semblance of flock intelligence or pecking order, but in the world of Scientology the only fence that keeps them in and controllable is stupidity. Remarkable how the wolves keep them corralled. There’s a similarity while studying Scientologists to think your are studying insects (entomology) too. The Church of Entomology, I like that, but mean no offence to our creepy crawly friends of the diminutive size – they serve an essential service in the scheme of life, Scientologists don’t.
Thanks RB, once again you are spot on!
Hilarious as usual. Even during the relatively short time I was in, I was flabbergasted that they would not take no for answer no matter how you tried to reason with them when it came to money. They typically would not ask but would instead tell me the size of the check they were going to have me write. I recall one time refusing the request for money from Steve Lower in DC, only to be called a couple of days later and be double teamed over the phone by both Steve and Tom Clapp.
I wonder what kind of training they get in soliciting donations to be able to be so persistent. I’ve read Les Dane’s book on Sales and manipulation, which has some ways to pressure people, but it seems that these reg’es are particularly insistent and able to get results. Do they get extensive training in sales techniques? Do they get a percentage of the money donated?
I’m really interested in this, what makes people feel compelled to give or ‘donate’ beyond their means, and what makes other people so motivated to push people to give money when they know they can’t really afford to give more?
Just check out any of their posters advertising events for members (on other posts) – all the ‘experts’ that present the seminars are preaching aggressive sales technique. I mean its couched in scn terms but … clearly reads to me that its all about training in super aggressive sales pitch action tutorials. That’s IMO from what I’ve noticed as an interested observer anyway ?
harry, I get the same impression. I don’t think they should do that. If anyone is interested in scientology they can join, but high-pressure sales tactics to get people to give money shouldn’t be used by a church. It’s unethical.
T.J. — What “compels” one to give beyond their means or even listen to a pitch from an Scn??? I believe it’s because most of us were raised to be “nice”. ‘No Ma’am, Yes Sir’, give up your seat , etc. I think there’s a basic instinct to ‘be nice’. How many of us have tried to ‘be nice’ to the high pressured salesman , the JW that comes to the door, the telemarketer? LRH knew this and used it to his advantage.
But we all know that, to someone who is hell-bent on getting something from us or controlling us, “nice” does not work.
We have had to teach our grandchildren, that, sometimes, it’s OK not to be ‘nice’. We have told them: If someone is bullying you or someone else; trying to get you to do something wrong; or making you feel uncomfortable, it is OK NOT TO BE NICE. It is far better to listen to your heart and do the right thing.
I wonder if there any tactics the church uses that you don’t know about. It’s people like you making fun of them and the whistleblowers that get david miscavige to change his tactics.
Well, you know, there is this little thing: HCO PL 24 February 1964, “Urgent, Org Programming”:
“If the Org slumps: Don’t engage in ‘fund raising’ or ‘selling postcards’ or borrowing money. Just make more income with Scientology. It’s a sign of very poor management to seek extraordinary solutions for finance…. Org solvency lies in more scientology, not patented combs or fund raising Barbecues.” – L. Ron Hubbard
Regarding low income, Hubbard said when the GI is low, fix it with more Scientology. He went on to say, don’t sell postcards or resort to FUND RAISING. And the dwarf is just ignoring his ‘wise’ words.
The OT’s at our Local mORGue called them “Pigs” and “DB’s”
I learned early on – confirm for the event – then call right before it starts with “sorry – can’t make it – Baby Johnny is sick” or “I got called into work”…
Good for you, Idle! I got out in ’82, so never had to go through fundraising. Being Scottish, I wouldn’t have given them a plug nickle. Cheapness is good!
I was only ever at mission level, so fortunately we didn’t have any great amount of money sucking, (sorry, fundraising), from the IAS there.
However, attendance at the St Hill events was virtually compulsory……
When I’d had more than I could take and was thoroughly pissed off with the cult, I used to just tell them what they wanted to hear.
Basically my mission would call anyone and everyone (many times a day) to confirm attendance at St Hill. They even had a coach hired to take everyone there!
So every time I was called to confirm, I would say “Yes, I’ll be coming”. Then I wouldn’t turn up!!
Quite a few people did this…… Frequently the 50 – 60 seater coach would have 10 people aboard.
Eventually I’d be dragged into ethics and asked why I didn’t go. I used to say “Because I didn’t want to”.
Then I’d be asked why I confirmed, so I’d say “Because you guys don’t take no for an answer”.
There then followed a lecture on the mission wasting money on a coach.
My reaction? “Here’s 20p, phone someone who gives a fuck!”.
LOL!!! When it comes to scientology you offer an inch and it demands a mile! There is NO winning with that beast. It is a vampire with a stick of candy just for you!
Once I was at a tourist site in China, and there were many vendors hawking stuff. I broke down and bought a couple coins from one of them (for about $5). Immediately my girlfriend and I were swarmed by a frantic mob of every other vendor there. We ran down the hill and a couple of them chased us all the way down. My girlfriend was Chinese, and she told me that one of them was imploring her, “You are Chinese. Why don’t you help your own people?” In some circumstances, you have to just not cross the border at all.
“Oh shit” is right, these tricksy $cilons are hip to all those feeble little “cult tax avoidance” schemes!
You’re either a fellow cultist, willing to do whatever it takes to salvage this sector of the universe, or you’re a namby-pamby dilettante who’s not fit to polish the boots of the $ea Orgy’s Loyal Officers!
Either pony up or GTFO…but don’t be thinkin’ that if you choose to blow that you’re going to get your kids back. That WON’T be happening! In fact, you can kiss off all your $cilon friends and business acquaintances too, because you’re either with the cult or you’re against it…there is NO middle ground!!!
Yet I wouldn’t change positions with Miscavige for anything. He will go down in history as a vile and disgusting person.
He has probably been waking up in the middle of the night with night sweats as his feverish dreams consume him. He lives in a world of anxiety and paranoia, and he knows the walls are closing in on him.
For the Demented Midget to wake up in a cold sweat, he’d have to be able to EXPERIENCE emotions, not just simulate them to manipulate others. If he’s aware of the effects he creates, that he doesn’t care is quietly obvious. At least to those of us outside of the bubble.
Who pays for the Prime Beef hamburgers & wild wings? The staff?
I see them everyday 6 months of videos pictures advertising as were they live as far as protesting slim like they are .I haven’t got a response suing the IRS and Federal reserve that owns Hollywood .DO you think it will work ??
Hmm, something tells me that poor Jenny’s husband isn’t the only one being fed some BS about how cheap the others are being. I’d be willing to bet that more than just a handful of those other “Hey la di La” folks will probably be told just how cheap Jenny and her husband are after they “set the standard”….and that those other folks need to really dig deep in an effort to truly show those two “cheap-ass degraded beings” what “real commitment” looks like.
Denigrating folks behind their backs and pitting folks against all the others in their own little “group”…..all in the name of a goal of making people feel better about themselves, ending all conflict, and unifying mankind. Sure, that makes sense…..
He needs to run to the bathroom, then run for the exit. Better to be embarrassed once than stuck forever.
Good one this week, RB!
This era of Miscavige’s top management outdoes the 1970s crimregging.
Miscavige’s Magic of Good Crimregging. (Magic of Good Managment)
The golden era of irreducible minimum–crimregging.
Leah is on Dr Oz now 1p PST Chan 11. Kickin a** 🙂
Bull’s eye as usual.Depicts 2017 in it’s regressive cheesiness.Reminds me of a once moderately success Aloe Vera MLM distributor company that has fallen on hard times.
Thanks as always RB for giving us a front seat inside the bubble.
And as usual full of those beautiful details.The cheesy look of the singer,the colors,the text of older bended people singing we stand tall.
God, I’m SO glad I ejected way back. But I don’t know what is worse; paying for nothing or, paying and having to sit is a chair (wasting time) and expose yourself to L. Con’s “auditing” cum insania on TOP of paying hard earned cash.
When Lois and I were faking our allegiance to SCN, in an attempt to keep 2 of our sons, we went to a couple of fund raisers. Having not been associated with SCN for about 30 years or so I didn’t know that they seriously believed that everyone who attended was supposed to donate something. We stuck around for their stupid talk about Flag and the Fort Harrison, had our dinner and then walked out of the conference room heading towards our car. Some a-hole shouted “Hey! Where are you 2 going?”, like I was breaking some rule. No one talks to me that way unless they are paying my salary and even then, that would be pushing it. I told him we’re going home and kept walking. I think he knew I wasn’t about to take any shit from this punk SO member and nothing further was discussed and I was happily having a beer at my home 30 minutes later.
The average SCN public appear to be so afraid of these guys. They actually act as if they have to obey them. They all need to grow a pair and tell the SO dicks to eff-off. They kind of respect that.
Love your comment, CPO. I hated most of those pushy, bossy Sea Org sons of bitches, male and female alike. I would boil with anger inside at the way they talked to us, ordering us around, and especially how they talked to the staff of my org. I liked my Class V org staff but couldn’t stand the SOs, most of them. From the first time I saw one of them, in a uniform, my back went up. I knew nothing about this person, knew nothing about the Sea Org, and yet I had a kind of visceral negative reaction. It wasn’t the blue uniform resembling police or the military. I have no reactive fear or dislike of the police or the military. I don’t know why I reacted like that, knowing nothing. Some instinct – something. I was like a cat that sees something and hisses and arches its back. Especially did I not like the young SO kids. It was visceral on my part and yet I didn’t know why. Well, much later I found out why my instinct or whatever it was was OK, but for a long time I was in mystery about why I couldn’t stand them and figured there was probably something wrong with me, or lacking in me. No other Scientologist of my acquaintance ever admitted a dislike for the Sea Org and its personnel, so I figured I was the only one who couldn’t stand them.
Actually, I do know why I couldn’t stand them, which was because I thought they were either obnoxious bossy young brats or annoying adult brats, but I was conflicted because I thought that this sort of thing shouldn’t bother me, because “Scientology wouldn’t be here if not for the Sea Org”.
Sometimes just put someone in a uniform and they develop an air of superiority about themselves. It’s not that the ARE superior, it’s that they FEEL superior to an “underling” who isn’t wearing the “snappy uniform” that THEY feel deserves respect.
Respect within THIS organization should have to be EARNED no matter what age you are, ….they don’t see it that way because they believe by “moving up the bridge” they deserve respect.
All too sad for THEM, so glad you dear friend and others woke up and are making it in the REAL world. As I said before, we can ONLY save ourselves….those who don’t want to be saved or won’t save themselves….they are still in and being controlled by the “Gargoyle, his minions and belief in LRon’s fantasy scie fi hero Xenu……too sad…for THEM.
That’s a troubling part of the Sea Org. They wear uniforms that resemble military, with absolutely no real qualifications to earn them the respect and considerations shown to real members of the military, police, etc. In those organizations one must earn their ‘rank’ and people can safely assume that the person in uniform has the knowledge, skills, and experience to back up whatever status one has been given. What real skills does someone have who has been named a ‘Captain’ in the Sea Org? Want to answer that Captain Miscavige? I’ve heard stories from ex-S.O. members who were given preferential treatments: early boarding on flights, discounts on tickets normally given to military, free meals, etc. The public sees a uniform and automatically assumes that the person wearing it has accomplished things to earn them a superior position, but this isn’t true in the Sea Org.
I’ve been asked lots of times what was it that got me out of scientology and my answer has always been “lots of things” because I wasn’t able to pin point an exact single cause. After reading your comment I now know what it was. It was an attitude I inherited from my dad: NOBODY TALKS TO ME THAT WAY!
If it used to cost somewhere between 500,000$ – 1,000,000$ to move all the way up the bridge, how much additional cost is involved when you add in the current level of forced donations?
Even when I was still in, I learned my lesson with the IAS. I realized that they were like a stray cat that you feed once, and then it keeps coming back because it knows where the food is. At that point you’re locked in with no way out.
There is a homeless kid here on Belcher Rd,in Clearwater that begs money. I just gave him a brand new I.A.S , T-shirt ,and a $1. To put it on.
Nasty but brilliant.
Scientologists are true idiots. But since I have left the church, I see a lot of “wogs”. Abd you know what ? They are as sheeple and as idiots. Inhability to spot outpoints is common blindness of the human race.
I diid scientology to be with people not so idiots, there was some, but the great majority were kind of stupids obediants morons. Like any “wogs”.
So I read this repeatedly….am I taking it the wrong way? Surely as a former member of a CULT your not implying that all of us “wogs” are stupid?! If you’re such an extremely intelligent being why do you not at the very least spell check? As a flawed human I’m forever amazed at the practice of denigrating others to feel better about ourselves. I hope your superior life works well for you.
I have a hard life. I depend on doctors to survive until I can get a transplant. Those doctors are for the most of them completely robotics. They just obey their protocole, have stats, think about just keeping their privilege, and don’t understand people for the most of them. Have you ever read Hannah Arendt, with the banality of evil ? Otherwise they don’t care, feel no compassion they are not better than the sea org member on the RB story.
Scientology as a subject was bringing hope, practice of scientology by human being was a complete failure, as the practice of occidental medicine, coasting huge money for poor result. Not for lack of technology, but for lack of human intelligence, lack of compassion, lack of understanding.
And you have the same things in politics. This is why I talk of banality of evil. You only need sheeple to create something like Auschwitz, don’t need evil people, just obedient people who believethey do good, don’t ever question anything.
Scientology became such a thing, and it’s a pity, as it raised so much hope. By-ut if you never practice scientologyyou just can’t see the good and the bad of it.
You are a “wog”. A wog is someone who isn’t even trying said Hubbard. For me a wog is someone who just follow the tide. Scientologidts in the church are pure wogs, as well as pure anti-scientologists, and most the obedient, unconscious human race.
Good point, I agree. People are commonly so robotic (and/or so PTS, especially in the cherch). Personnally I had got very good results from Scientology (and I mean very very good results) only in two situations:
1) when I stopped listening to scn people and start thinking and looking by myself with Scientology data (even if it did not look “good” for the “good” people in the cherch)
2) when being listened by a skilled auditor who was really caring about me (and not caring for his own stats). That happened only once and this auditor has been fired a few weeks later by a couple of angry SO (in a very suicidal-scientology style) !
Not being robotic, thinking by oneself : strangely these are parts of the definition of OT, the true goal of Scientology.
Wha??
Hi, FG, Happy Good Friday. Peace be with you.
I get what you’re saying… except for every single word of it.
FG is not saying that all non-Scientologists are stupid. He’s saying that many Scientologists are stupid because they unable to spot outpoints. He’s also making the point that the inability to spot outpoints is not necessarily limited to Scientologists but that many non-Scientologist are also unable to spot outpoints.
Sheeple is a good name for Scientologists. Even sheeple dramatize a semblance of flock intelligence or pecking order, but in the world of Scientology the only fence that keeps them in and controllable is stupidity. Remarkable how the wolves keep them corralled. There’s a similarity while studying Scientologists to think your are studying insects (entomology) too. The Church of Entomology, I like that, but mean no offence to our creepy crawly friends of the diminutive size – they serve an essential service in the scheme of life, Scientologists don’t.
Thanks RB, once again you are spot on!
Hilarious as usual. Even during the relatively short time I was in, I was flabbergasted that they would not take no for answer no matter how you tried to reason with them when it came to money. They typically would not ask but would instead tell me the size of the check they were going to have me write. I recall one time refusing the request for money from Steve Lower in DC, only to be called a couple of days later and be double teamed over the phone by both Steve and Tom Clapp.
I wonder what kind of training they get in soliciting donations to be able to be so persistent. I’ve read Les Dane’s book on Sales and manipulation, which has some ways to pressure people, but it seems that these reg’es are particularly insistent and able to get results. Do they get extensive training in sales techniques? Do they get a percentage of the money donated?
I’m really interested in this, what makes people feel compelled to give or ‘donate’ beyond their means, and what makes other people so motivated to push people to give money when they know they can’t really afford to give more?
– T.J.
Just check out any of their posters advertising events for members (on other posts) – all the ‘experts’ that present the seminars are preaching aggressive sales technique. I mean its couched in scn terms but … clearly reads to me that its all about training in super aggressive sales pitch action tutorials. That’s IMO from what I’ve noticed as an interested observer anyway ?
harry, I get the same impression. I don’t think they should do that. If anyone is interested in scientology they can join, but high-pressure sales tactics to get people to give money shouldn’t be used by a church. It’s unethical.
T.J. — What “compels” one to give beyond their means or even listen to a pitch from an Scn??? I believe it’s because most of us were raised to be “nice”. ‘No Ma’am, Yes Sir’, give up your seat , etc. I think there’s a basic instinct to ‘be nice’. How many of us have tried to ‘be nice’ to the high pressured salesman , the JW that comes to the door, the telemarketer? LRH knew this and used it to his advantage.
But we all know that, to someone who is hell-bent on getting something from us or controlling us, “nice” does not work.
We have had to teach our grandchildren, that, sometimes, it’s OK not to be ‘nice’. We have told them: If someone is bullying you or someone else; trying to get you to do something wrong; or making you feel uncomfortable, it is OK NOT TO BE NICE. It is far better to listen to your heart and do the right thing.
Ohio, good advice. I think you are right.
The only thing that ever worked for me was outright rudeness and walking out, even then a few weeks later they were back for more.
I knew a Tom Clapp in college years ago. No, it couldn’t be…..or could it?
“Oh shit,” indeed! The Church of the Mighty Greenback holds sway over all its members. Sort of like a cult…
That’s 3rd party Dude! You know like beer, tequila, streamers and funny hats. Cults is for pussies too afraid of a good time!
Any way you look at it, it’s a lose/lose.
RB
You really get it.
I wonder if there any tactics the church uses that you don’t know about. It’s people like you making fun of them and the whistleblowers that get david miscavige to change his tactics.
Oh My, yhank you RB! The regges know all the ways to stick the knife in further….Bless you & I am very grateful for your work. ?
Thank You RB….edit.
So true. The whole concept of fundraising for Scientology is so bogus.
It is so fraudulent. RB. Perfect and concise statement.
Well, you know, there is this little thing: HCO PL 24 February 1964, “Urgent, Org Programming”:
“If the Org slumps: Don’t engage in ‘fund raising’ or ‘selling postcards’ or borrowing money. Just make more income with Scientology. It’s a sign of very poor management to seek extraordinary solutions for finance…. Org solvency lies in more scientology, not patented combs or fund raising Barbecues.” – L. Ron Hubbard
Regarding low income, Hubbard said when the GI is low, fix it with more Scientology. He went on to say, don’t sell postcards or resort to FUND RAISING. And the dwarf is just ignoring his ‘wise’ words.
“eater’s”
LOL
The OT’s at our Local mORGue called them “Pigs” and “DB’s”
I learned early on – confirm for the event – then call right before it starts with “sorry – can’t make it – Baby Johnny is sick” or “I got called into work”…
Never went to the fraudulent fund raisers….
Good for you, Idle! I got out in ’82, so never had to go through fundraising. Being Scottish, I wouldn’t have given them a plug nickle. Cheapness is good!
I was only ever at mission level, so fortunately we didn’t have any great amount of money sucking, (sorry, fundraising), from the IAS there.
However, attendance at the St Hill events was virtually compulsory……
When I’d had more than I could take and was thoroughly pissed off with the cult, I used to just tell them what they wanted to hear.
Basically my mission would call anyone and everyone (many times a day) to confirm attendance at St Hill. They even had a coach hired to take everyone there!
So every time I was called to confirm, I would say “Yes, I’ll be coming”. Then I wouldn’t turn up!!
Quite a few people did this…… Frequently the 50 – 60 seater coach would have 10 people aboard.
Eventually I’d be dragged into ethics and asked why I didn’t go. I used to say “Because I didn’t want to”.
Then I’d be asked why I confirmed, so I’d say “Because you guys don’t take no for an answer”.
There then followed a lecture on the mission wasting money on a coach.
My reaction? “Here’s 20p, phone someone who gives a fuck!”.
End of session……………………………….
LOL!!! When it comes to scientology you offer an inch and it demands a mile! There is NO winning with that beast. It is a vampire with a stick of candy just for you!
Once I was at a tourist site in China, and there were many vendors hawking stuff. I broke down and bought a couple coins from one of them (for about $5). Immediately my girlfriend and I were swarmed by a frantic mob of every other vendor there. We ran down the hill and a couple of them chased us all the way down. My girlfriend was Chinese, and she told me that one of them was imploring her, “You are Chinese. Why don’t you help your own people?” In some circumstances, you have to just not cross the border at all.
You give them an inch, and they’ll demand 100,000 miles. For starters…
“Oh shit” is right, these tricksy $cilons are hip to all those feeble little “cult tax avoidance” schemes!
You’re either a fellow cultist, willing to do whatever it takes to salvage this sector of the universe, or you’re a namby-pamby dilettante who’s not fit to polish the boots of the $ea Orgy’s Loyal Officers!
Either pony up or GTFO…but don’t be thinkin’ that if you choose to blow that you’re going to get your kids back. That WON’T be happening! In fact, you can kiss off all your $cilon friends and business acquaintances too, because you’re either with the cult or you’re against it…there is NO middle ground!!!
Oh Shit indeed. $cientology is the only game where everyone loses.
Not everyone. I’m pretty sure Mr. Miscavige might disagree about “everyone” losing.
Yet I wouldn’t change positions with Miscavige for anything. He will go down in history as a vile and disgusting person.
He has probably been waking up in the middle of the night with night sweats as his feverish dreams consume him. He lives in a world of anxiety and paranoia, and he knows the walls are closing in on him.