RB, as the Cherch does more and more self defeating activities it gets harder and harder for members to hide from the truth. The world of information keeps expanding at a rate that rolls over the lies of Scientology. Members have to hide more and more from the realities that are right in front of them.
RB, once again, thank you for how you contribute to us with these comics. What you write is always cathartic. I read the responses, the comments, and I know that underneath the facades of humor, sarcasm, anger, contempt, even numbness – underneath all of these is acute and chronic pain and tremendous loss and the effort to overcome, to make sense of what has been done, and to carry on with life happily and productively despite the senseless tragedies that have been sustained. Thank you, RB, for helping the way you do, and Mike, thank you yet again for all your hard work and for the forum you unselfishly provide for us to understand, learn and heal.
Great job RB. I also learned a new term today…..”not-is”. I didn’t see anyone else discuss this, so I had to look it up. But if there are any never-ins who were confused by this term like I was when I read it, apparently (based on my limited understanding) a “not-is” basically seems like a way to convince yourself that something didn’t happen, even though in reality it did.
As best I can understand, I suppose a possible example would be a Scientologist completely dismissing any negativity in their lives as a result of their practice of Scientology. They simply refuse to acknowledge that something bad ever happened (or in the case of this RB, they basically “forget” that Miscavige botched his handling of the Clearwater City Council members on the aquarium deal).
If any former members wish to clarify any misconceptions I may have on this term (or can explain it in simpler terms), please do so.
If you can imagine someone who has been hit by a car who says “I don’t remember anything about the accident, it’s actually not possible that I was hit by a car because I was in the sidewalk….” A Scientologist would say the person was “not-ising” the memory of the accident. Saying that it never happened. We now know from actual research (“The Memory Illusion”, Julia Shaw) that the brain is shut down and does not record when it is unconscious or asleep.
So the Scientology way of dealing with this accident victim is to press for memories where there are none. The victim is encouraged to try to remember. This will result in various fantasies created to explain the missing memory, many of which are clearly impossible. A Scientologist would say the victim is “alter-ising” the accident. Altering it because it is too painful to directly remember. In reality he is creating a memory, refining the details.
The final goal of all this is to get the victim to create an “as-isness”, in Scientology terms to create the entire incident over again in full detail. With every tiny bit in perfect alignment, the exact amount of force that the car applied to the exact point on the victim’s body, a mental reconstruction perfect in every way. The theory is that two identical objects cannot occupy the same space, so they both simply disappear. The created memory, created in the same space and time as the original incident, makes them both vanish.
In reality what happens is the person puts a lot of thought into creating an imaginary incident. This usually fails, and the auditor will have the person look for an earlier similar incident that is somehow hanging up the current one.
By pressing the victim to go earlier, ideally into imagined previous lives, it is possible to create imaginary experiences that do not have to correlate to reality at all. Nobody is going to check to see if this person actually was hit by a falling boulder on some other planet billions of years ago.
But at some point the victim begins to feel that he has “got it”, that the false memory is 100% real, smiles and grins all around. He may laugh uncontrollably or cry, but with a smile. The victim will feel that he or she has found out something that explains something that was very badly wrong. The whole procedure is false, but these feelings are very real and electrifying.
That is why some say “But I had such incredible wins!”. You really feel that you will never have a problem with the injured body part again, that it will recover rapidly, and sometimes by placebo effect it does. Just like a good workout or a very thrilling bungee jump, the brain chemicals are pumping and you feel great.
But none of that has anything to do with “as-ising” the injury or something similar in the past. Just as you can’t remember things that happened to you when you were unconscious, you can’t remember things that never happened to you. You are creating something and then assigning power to it. A very vivid fantasy.
But that suffices to explain the four conditions of existence, if you mention as side note that is-ness, the fourth one, just is what it is. No attempt to alter it, deny it or recreate it. It just is.
Many thanks Bruce for that insight. And thank for you for the old Terra Cognita essay link (that was a bit before I started reading Mike’s site). I can see how attempting to reconstruct a past event, even if fantasized, can help someone feel better, in theory.
However, it can also lead the mind to accept altered realities….and since this is only Dianetics, as you said, it certainly seems like an initial step to conditioning one’s mind to believe in the “power of themselves”, even though that power ultimately belongs to the cult, since they’re the ones pushing these folks to “make things up” as an altered version of reality.
Ultimately, reality exists as it exists, period. No amount of auditing (or anything else for that matter) will ever be able to change that.
The dude wrote a KR on his wife because she criticized John Travolta?!!!!!
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They do need to sell the house and go back to Oklahoma!
Like, now!
There’s a hidden joke in that part. If the wife deserved a KR for saying that Travolta screwed up Battlefield Earth, someone should have a filed a KR on David Miscavige as well:
Excellent as usual, Regraded Being. I think another funny one would be sort of like Jeff Foxworthy: “You know you’re a Scientologist when…” and you fill in the blanks. Or we can do it on the comments with everyone joining in to fill in “you know you’re a Scn when….” Should be hilarious.
You know you’re a Scientologist when you pretend, even to yourself, that Repair of Past Ethics Conditions makes sense when it says to apply a condition to a back track incident IN PRESENT TIME … ( … let me see … how do I make up the damage to King Louie after letting the guillotine drop? …)
Marildi, Matildi, Marildi … “Find a representative …” (actually I have done that successfully which I will note as to results at the end of this reply)
Here’s the intellectual problem with doing that. The earlier lower condition was because of the betrayal of King Louis (let’s say that the earliest unhandled condition was for Treason and now one is working up the line). Now since one has committed the act against LOUIS personally, how would picking out a person in the present deal with THAT? On applying Liability, how would it make ANY sense to “make up the damage” with the PT guy (Joe) when 1) you haven’t any damage to make UP for in regards to Joe, and 2) why would you possibly ever then eventually ask Joe’s approval to re-enter his “group” when you hadn’t even been opposed to Joe’s group in any way.
Now, I could go on about this to illustrate the complete nuttiness of it, but just writing the above is starting to spin me a bit intellectually, and I wouldn’t want to do that to you to any extent or anyone else reading this. Besides the utter nuttiness of this, you must realize that doing this in a representative way violates almost all of LRH’s previous work on conditions, which make the point continually that conditions are “real world” and that the formulas have to be real world actions themselves in their application (otherwise they have no real relevancy in improving conditions).
When RPEC first came out, many people on LOC applied this by “imaginary” formula write-ups (you know, the earliest condition not handled was when I blew up the planet Daffy, forty trillion years ago … and so if I applied Treason at the time, this is what I would have done … now I guess one could choose Earth to represent Daffy and do some work with Green Peace or something, but again note, THAT in no way has anything to do with Daffy and let’s be real. Nothing I could do in a current environmental way on Earth could make up the damage for killing three billion people when I blew up their planet). Anyway, the “imaginary” method makes MUCH more sense to me in doing RPEC than the “representative” method (though each is eventually worthless in my opinion). But LRH never gave ANY examples of how to do this backtrack stuff. And I don’t think he even COULD.
*now for my own experience in this. Somehow I got into a 2D past condition re: my brother, whom I didn’t disseminate to back in the 1970s when I got into Scientology (he was a Christian for a while and then a Hindu!!!). But my brother died in 1973. So, I picked out a “representative”, a young man I had been very close to since he was born and I always considered a younger brother. He was 21 as I recall when I picked him out to help me apply this condition. And I worked through Liability and applied to him to re-enter “the group” I did have some wins doing this, but it was SENSELESS. The young man was on staff so actually didn’t need me to disseminate to him (I did some other dissemination actions in a Muslim community!). But the bottom line is that even though I had a win and got “keyed out” temporarily, the condition application HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY BROTHER AND HANDLED NOTHING IN REGARDS TO MY FEELINGS OR ACTIONS TOWARDS HIM.
**Marildi, I think if you were honest in evaluating this procedure, you would have to look seriously at both LRH’s muddled thinking on developing this and at Scientologists’ reactions of accepting ANYTHING Ron wrote as COMPLETELY sensible and workable even when it wasn’t. While I feel it is a failure of intellectual integrity to reject and/or deride all of LRH’s work, I feel the same standard needs to be directed at ACCEPTING as truth or workable ALL of his work as well.
I did RPEC on LOC too – the “imaginary” way you described. Later, when it got corrected, since I had no more attention on it the handling was to leave it at that. So I haven’t actually done it the “corrected” way, and to be honest, I don’t know if an MAA or Ethics Officer would agree with my understanding of it. But they would have to show me their reference. I know the one I’m using, in addition to the RPEC reference itself. This is the way I see it, using your example:
Joe: “…Now since one has committed the act against LOUIS personally, how would picking out a person in the present deal with THAT?”
The reference I think applies is the one that describes how to do conditions and exchange by dynamics. Here’s a quote of part of the instructions on exchange by dynamics (emphasis in caps is mine):
“Now, have him consider ‘his own second dynamic’. What does his second dynamic give his first dynamic? What does HIS second dynamic give THE second dynamic and what does it give him?” (HCOB 4 Apr 72 “Ethics”)
Per the above, a person can consider his OWN dynamics as well as THE dynamics. This makes sense to me because I think it’s true that there is a general intention and “thrust” for survival in the various areas of life – which would be “the” dynamics.
So in the case of RPEC on King Louis, you would need to consider which of “the” dynamics you had a past unhandled condition on. For the Liability formula, as an example, you would make up the damage on that dynamic or portion of it, be it a person, a group, or whatever
With regard to what you wrote here: “While I feel it is a failure of intellectual integrity to reject and/or deride all of LRH’s work, I feel the same standard needs to be directed at ACCEPTING as truth or workable ALL of his work as well ” – I fully agree.
I no longer accept everything LRH said just because he said it, and if I thought RPEC was wrongheaded I would absolutely say so.
Basically, if a person has attention on some past lower condition, I do believe he would release the charge by doing RPEC on it as I’ve described. And that would be because of doing something in PT that made a difference in the “real” universe.
Joe Pendletonsays
Marildi, I think that the method you suggest above re: THE dynamic to do the formula on is a bit ingenious I must say, and yes, that does make sense to me as a handling that would be workable.
HOWEVER … I do have to point out (and I really think you already know this) that the “Marildi figure out” is not in the HCO B itself (which it could easily be if LRH knew how he wanted this procedure done) and so is not in any way “standard” which was once the agreement we all had in the CoS as to how to do technical actions. Not that this would bother me anymore as I note below.
Philosophically I am not now against the idea of something like the RPEC being done on a basis of “do it however you and your twin or EO think is workable” and proceed in that way. But I also have to point out to you, and not intending to butter you up with too many compliments here … but Marildi, you are only sharper than about 99.9% of the people I met in my 35 years in the CoS (while the pretense in the CoS is that “some” folks above us know what the “corrected” way to do things is and the word on that goes down to the hoi polio. I no longer think there are any people at the top of the CoS with such knowledge and I now don’t think there was in 1975 either.)
marildisays
Actually, Joe, the tech (standard) I applied was essentially the word clearing tech of “how it IS that way and how it ISN’T that way.” It brought to mind the data on exchange by dynamics, and it clicked for me that the person (or entity) was part of and involved with a dynamic that still exists. You yourself probably see that now without necessarily looking at it strictly in terms of “the” dynamics.
It might not click with everybody right away, using that particular piece of tech, but since the RPEC procedure is to first clear all relevant terms, including “dynamics,” any and all other word clearing tools can also be used – such as clay demos, which are very powerful, as you know. These other tools also cause a person’s thinking to loosen up.
Let us hope that this week’s RB, especially, reaches those who’ve already been suppressing such thoughts. Sometimes, it’s a small thing which can push one’s “tilt” button enough to create a far different future. RB, you’re a very subtle genius!
Once again RB, you’re scary accurate!
Scientologists demonstrate their best ability with their minds by never being sure of what they mean.
The word ‘certainty’ to a Scio means to wait and see what happens. It could be suggested that the Cof$ exclusively sells a Bridge to Total Uncertainty. That’s also why Scientologists are so against alcohol and drugs – they give generally brief, but fun certainties.
For example, who in the fuck likes cal-mag? Because it’s written in the tech, Scios do, but you know they are lying, it tastes like battery acid and the only calming effect it has is when you forget to drink it!
Regraded Being… another great insight. It is exhausting to be a scientologist… like the man driving the car, with the mental gymnastics and conflicting thoughts, all the while fearing dear leader and Knowledge Reports.
Scientology claims to heal insanity, but only serves to promote mental illness in its parishioners.
For those who finally “blow”, after the initial shock, the feeling of having the weight of scientology off your shoulders is heavenly.
WAYC, I think all members are on edge all the time. And the lack of sleep amplifies it. It truly is physical and psychological torture. What a fucked up cult…
Great one, RB. Thank you.
I wish it was that simple for all. I have some ‘true believers’ flying here to visit for a few days. They have no idea that I post here. We are very careful to avoid off topic conversation with them. They have disconnected with almost everyone else on our side of the family, so I do my best to make sure that we can continue to have a relationship. They are older and sincerely believe that their eternity and immortality depends on the cult. I may sound like a hypocrite, but I love them unconditionally, even if their belief system doesn’t support unconditional love. It is so exhausting walking on eggshells.
I hate the cult, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t still love the individual members, delusional and misguided as they are. Sigh.
We don’t drop our family and friends just because of the cult. We didn’t drop the non-scios when we were believers, and now we don’t drop the kool-Aide. (including spouse) 🙂
We’re good that way and we know that if you cut out all the folks who don’t think just as you do, you end up alone in a room by yourself.
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Not everyone gets this. I once had an MAA question me quite closely on why I wanted “to be in comm” with non-scios. I pointed out that this was most of the world. 🙂 She was 15 and didn’t get it.
A fifteen year old passing judgement on you. This is something right out of Cambodia’s Pol Pot’s killing fields.
That is scientology, in a nutshell: children filing knowledge reports on their mothers, immature teens judging forty-year-old adults on their “questionable” behavior, while some disgusting guru squats back at home base and gets rich.
The guru’s age is over, thank you internet!! I so SO much enjoy watching the scientology gong show in its death throes. I just hope it doesn’t go down like Waco or Jonestown.
Brilliant post, as usual RB. Loved it. The way they were afraid to disparage DM reminded me my recent experience about how he is viewed.
When I was an SO member, LRH was the one and only God in the cult and no one would even consider someone even close in stature (other than MSH). A couple of years ago, when Lois and I were faking our allegiance to the cult to keep our kids from disconnecting, I was questioned on a meter, numerous times of my views towards COB. I didn’t think of him as anything special and responded “he is a good SO member” (they could take that anyway they liked but I felt they wanted something more from me than that). Then when we were doing our amends project (yes, we did that…) the OTs working on the files project never once asked Lois what LRH was like or what it is like working directly for him – it was sort of a yawn. But when I told them that Lois recruited DM into the CMO, they were shocked. REALLY??? She recruited COB??? Wow…
It is amazing what brainwashing can cause. They can take an ordinary Kim Jung-un and turn him into a god or royalty.
The translation of that article is tricky to understand but well worthy of a read. Looks like it’s a nice and polite way of Mexican authorities telling Scientology to “fuck off!” Thanks ED, interesting post comment.
It’s written in a rather formal Spanish often used by newspapers, and on top of that it makes references to an official and legal system that operates quite differently from the Anglo-American one that most of us are accustomed to, so it doesn’t come through an automatic translator very well. I think the translations get the gist of it, though; and google does better than Bing.
The word that is translated literally as “simulated” after temple, has connotations more of pretend or imitation – it might better be translated as something like (faux) temple or (imitation of a) temple. The columnist is starting off with a pretty critical dig, there.
If anyone is dying for a better translation of some part, let me know, I don’t have time to do the full piece since the automatic translations are at least serviceable for conveying the general meaning.
Yes, according to the translation, $CN’s new project was stopped due to criticism from the surrounding property owners. Unfortunately, from my experience in dealing with these issues myself in Mexico, the bureaucrat in charge will accept a ‘fee’ (bribe) to analyze the area/project and then determine the project could go forward.
All the better for Miscavige to do something like that. More potential corruption fodder to be exposed. There comes a point when even money doesn’t produce the same results it use to. Scientology is a toxic organisation which does toxic things. Any competent but corrupt politician will think twice before dealing with them. A stupidly corrupt politician will just take the money and run and to hell with the consequences. As I said earlier regarding the aquarium fiasco, it will turn around and bite Scientology in ways they cannot comprehend. The news of that Clearwater bribery event for a block of dirt went viral for Scientology in political circles worldwide with serious satirical overtones for Miscavige and Muffins. If anything it probably got Muffins more work offers from the shadier side of life. For Miscavige it painted him as a dangerous but stupid fool with way more money than sense.
Don’t forget the oldest and most fundamental driver ………………… ‘fear’!
All the MAA will need to say is “Perhaps some sec checking to free you up from all of your overts, sins, transgressions and so on will improve your tone level.”
That is usually all it takes to drive the average $cio way back into his/her head is a mass of fear and confusion.
I think those teenage mutant ninja types in the MAA offices love to watch the effect they can have on the older folks! I remember Alphonso at Flog seemed to particularly enjoy watching the old folks arrive for their sec checks. I really don’t mind that those types remain in the SEA ORGE; better to know where they are rather than having ’em run loose out here where we enjoy our freedom!
Yo Alphonso and Jasmin,
How are your stats this week? Are you still on post or have you been busted to the RPF?
Newcomer didn’t correct your reasons, OSD, he just added one. I’m going to add one too: habit. People form habits, good and bad, and they get very comfortable with them. Being in the Scientology cult for decades can be a hard habit to break.
Put a dash of Tabasco in there, toss it with a little garlic, lemon juice and olive oil, add a side salad of fresh greens with a touch of shredded rocket with pine nuts, finely chopped semi dried tomatoes and a light snow covering of grated parmesan. Dress it with caramelized balsamic and enjoy. If it’s a hot day, wash it down with a super chilled but very crisp Pinot Grigio. That’s what a “wog” would do!
Sounds to me more like someone coming to his senses and beginning to ask the vital questions of himself. How different is it from what all of us who were in went through. We didn’t “suddenly” know it all. It took awhile, processing what we’d experienced, what we’d seen and heard and what our doubts were. Once a person has put both years and a lot of money into something, it takes some processing and inner looking to come to a new conclusion. Yes, some of us got a lot out of it, too, and that needed consideration, as well.
The guys in will be very surprised when they realize the suppression they’ve experienced is coming from within the very church they subscribe to. Its an awakening sure to give one nightmares for a while. But its all worth it. Get out now friends, don’t remain and continue to be part of the problem. Thanks for the Friday morning lift RB and Mike.
LOL! “I think I meant to say something else”! LOL!
But seriously, I think I failed to appreciate what a huge humiliation the Clearwater Bribery Attempt was for David Miscavige. This was to be where he showed his flock how a big being controls the wogs and gets things done. He flies out John Travolta and Kirstie Alley, he has big presentations for individual city council members to skirt public meetings regulations all of which draws enormous attention to the epic fail of it all!
I’m very curious as to how Miscavige is handling the Clearwater debacle, since he put so much into “making it go right,” and even put his prestige on the line, but got so resoundingly defeated by the City Council. My guess, based on doctrine and history, is that it got blamed on SPs, inside and out of Scientology, and that there is a furious hunt on for them, as well as . I would not be surprised that now, we will see years of skirmishes, from “noisy investigations” to lawsuits, and perhaps efforts to undermine the CMA such as support of seemingly independent opposition. I also wonder if there will be some further, piqued retaliation beyond just the apparent Sea Org boycott, perhaps escalating to Scientology’s version of a “spite fence,” some sort of building project that they can get away with without city approval, but that is over-the-top in some way.
p.s. EDIT: “as well as .” at the end of the second sentence, should read “as well strategizing about how to get what they want through other means, such as legal challenges and attacks.”
Yo Dave,
I suppose it is time to ‘git er done’ Dave. Time to call in Mr ‘Ruthlessly slamming in ethics’ Cruise to help with the rehabilitation of Clearwater. You and Tom should be able to pull it off Dave. Obviously it was a bit more that what You could do with only Your size of being. But if you get numero dos AND tres working together I’m sure it would be a slam dunk Dave.
Hey, You and Tom could fire up your twin motorcycles and then invite the Ding-a-Ling gal along. One of you might have to get a side car thingy or if you get her a tri-cycle to ride that might work. Imagine Dave …… the three of you all dressed in your big being leathers all pull up to City Hall to lay down a heavy dose of Severe Reality Adjustment Dave.
You would become the ‘irresistable farce’ going up against the immovable object. Who’s gonna prevail good buddy? Mr acid mouth or the good citizens of Clearwater?
DM: “This is bullshit….it’s mine mine mine, I tell you…it’s mine (as he balls up his fists, stamps his feet and begins to sweat profusely)….Xenu said Clearwater belongs to me….me, I tell you. ME!!!
As usual, this week’s Regraded Being hits the spot. I’d love to see one about the new TV show The Handmaiden’s Tale, starring Scientologist actress Elizabeth Moss cogniting that the Church of Scientology sure seems to resemble the Republic of Gilead.
+1
Loving this show and how she survives overwhelming suppression. Many comments on HULU point to how close the show matches the current political climate… timely, though it’s based on an old novel.
Very spot on analysis of the CW fiasco blow-up, RB. Good job!
You know that you’re other-determined when you have to pretend in public that your cult got what it expected when, in reality, it got the exact opposite!
You know that you’re other-determined and in a killer, mind control cult when uttering (or even thinking) anything but praise for Dear Leader will put you in danger of being ratted out by your spouse and children, then being subjected to lengthy interrogation (at your own great expense) for your “thought crimes”.
You know that your religion is a fake one, based completely on pseudo-science, when…you wake up every morning, right before you slip into your “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no truth” Good Scientologist valence!
Excellent one RB and ended with the PERFECT question!
(Also very cool to read the comments last week how your wonderful creations here reached someone in the bubble and helped to bring them out! Thanks for your work week after week!)
Mike –
Great posts this week (always, but this week was especially good)! My son’s closest friend, who witnessed their buddy get sucked in & disappear/disconnect in the last 18mos has been asking about CO$. I sent him here & to Tony’s blog. He said the stories have helped, but actually seeing the propaganda & constant fundraising the cult puts out here on your blog has helped him to better understand & learn. Thanks again!
RB, as the Cherch does more and more self defeating activities it gets harder and harder for members to hide from the truth. The world of information keeps expanding at a rate that rolls over the lies of Scientology. Members have to hide more and more from the realities that are right in front of them.
RB, once again, thank you for how you contribute to us with these comics. What you write is always cathartic. I read the responses, the comments, and I know that underneath the facades of humor, sarcasm, anger, contempt, even numbness – underneath all of these is acute and chronic pain and tremendous loss and the effort to overcome, to make sense of what has been done, and to carry on with life happily and productively despite the senseless tragedies that have been sustained. Thank you, RB, for helping the way you do, and Mike, thank you yet again for all your hard work and for the forum you unselfishly provide for us to understand, learn and heal.
Well said.
Great job RB. I also learned a new term today…..”not-is”. I didn’t see anyone else discuss this, so I had to look it up. But if there are any never-ins who were confused by this term like I was when I read it, apparently (based on my limited understanding) a “not-is” basically seems like a way to convince yourself that something didn’t happen, even though in reality it did.
As best I can understand, I suppose a possible example would be a Scientologist completely dismissing any negativity in their lives as a result of their practice of Scientology. They simply refuse to acknowledge that something bad ever happened (or in the case of this RB, they basically “forget” that Miscavige botched his handling of the Clearwater City Council members on the aquarium deal).
If any former members wish to clarify any misconceptions I may have on this term (or can explain it in simpler terms), please do so.
Mick, your explanation is pretty good. No need to get into it any deeper.
But if you want to, Terra Cognita did an essay on it – https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-is-ness-of-is-ness/
My take:
If you can imagine someone who has been hit by a car who says “I don’t remember anything about the accident, it’s actually not possible that I was hit by a car because I was in the sidewalk….” A Scientologist would say the person was “not-ising” the memory of the accident. Saying that it never happened. We now know from actual research (“The Memory Illusion”, Julia Shaw) that the brain is shut down and does not record when it is unconscious or asleep.
So the Scientology way of dealing with this accident victim is to press for memories where there are none. The victim is encouraged to try to remember. This will result in various fantasies created to explain the missing memory, many of which are clearly impossible. A Scientologist would say the victim is “alter-ising” the accident. Altering it because it is too painful to directly remember. In reality he is creating a memory, refining the details.
The final goal of all this is to get the victim to create an “as-isness”, in Scientology terms to create the entire incident over again in full detail. With every tiny bit in perfect alignment, the exact amount of force that the car applied to the exact point on the victim’s body, a mental reconstruction perfect in every way. The theory is that two identical objects cannot occupy the same space, so they both simply disappear. The created memory, created in the same space and time as the original incident, makes them both vanish.
In reality what happens is the person puts a lot of thought into creating an imaginary incident. This usually fails, and the auditor will have the person look for an earlier similar incident that is somehow hanging up the current one.
By pressing the victim to go earlier, ideally into imagined previous lives, it is possible to create imaginary experiences that do not have to correlate to reality at all. Nobody is going to check to see if this person actually was hit by a falling boulder on some other planet billions of years ago.
But at some point the victim begins to feel that he has “got it”, that the false memory is 100% real, smiles and grins all around. He may laugh uncontrollably or cry, but with a smile. The victim will feel that he or she has found out something that explains something that was very badly wrong. The whole procedure is false, but these feelings are very real and electrifying.
That is why some say “But I had such incredible wins!”. You really feel that you will never have a problem with the injured body part again, that it will recover rapidly, and sometimes by placebo effect it does. Just like a good workout or a very thrilling bungee jump, the brain chemicals are pumping and you feel great.
But none of that has anything to do with “as-ising” the injury or something similar in the past. Just as you can’t remember things that happened to you when you were unconscious, you can’t remember things that never happened to you. You are creating something and then assigning power to it. A very vivid fantasy.
Some could say that vivid fantasy therapy is valid, because it “works”. Or suggest that making things up and assigning power to them is somehow good for you. Or retort that it is all spiritual and the brain has nothing to do with it. Maybe, but read the book by Julia Shaw https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Illusion-Remembering-Forgetting-Science-ebook/dp/B019CGXQA8/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1494677962&sr=8-1 before you make that conclusion. And of course I am just describing Dianetics here, there is a lot more fantasy in the Scientology version including demonology!
But that suffices to explain the four conditions of existence, if you mention as side note that is-ness, the fourth one, just is what it is. No attempt to alter it, deny it or recreate it. It just is.
Stick with that one and you’ll come out OK.
Many thanks Bruce for that insight. And thank for you for the old Terra Cognita essay link (that was a bit before I started reading Mike’s site). I can see how attempting to reconstruct a past event, even if fantasized, can help someone feel better, in theory.
However, it can also lead the mind to accept altered realities….and since this is only Dianetics, as you said, it certainly seems like an initial step to conditioning one’s mind to believe in the “power of themselves”, even though that power ultimately belongs to the cult, since they’re the ones pushing these folks to “make things up” as an altered version of reality.
Ultimately, reality exists as it exists, period. No amount of auditing (or anything else for that matter) will ever be able to change that.
It is all so numbing, juggling all that crap… I guess that is why scientology deserves its reputation as a cult.
This comes pretty close to what the term “brainwashing” describes …
Thanks RB. You give me hope that my still-in relatives may come to similar conclusions.
The dude wrote a KR on his wife because she criticized John Travolta?!!!!!
WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They do need to sell the house and go back to Oklahoma!
Like, now!
There’s a hidden joke in that part. If the wife deserved a KR for saying that Travolta screwed up Battlefield Earth, someone should have a filed a KR on David Miscavige as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpMb51joJA
Excellent as usual, Regraded Being. I think another funny one would be sort of like Jeff Foxworthy: “You know you’re a Scientologist when…” and you fill in the blanks. Or we can do it on the comments with everyone joining in to fill in “you know you’re a Scn when….” Should be hilarious.
You know you’re a Scientologist when you pronounce her name … “Joan of A,R,C …”
You know you’re a Scientologist when you pretend, even to yourself, that Repair of Past Ethics Conditions makes sense when it says to apply a condition to a back track incident IN PRESENT TIME … ( … let me see … how do I make up the damage to King Louie after letting the guillotine drop? …)
Find a representative King Louie.
Loved your pronunciation of “Joan of A,R,C…” How about Gal.AX.y?
Marildi, Matildi, Marildi … “Find a representative …” (actually I have done that successfully which I will note as to results at the end of this reply)
Here’s the intellectual problem with doing that. The earlier lower condition was because of the betrayal of King Louis (let’s say that the earliest unhandled condition was for Treason and now one is working up the line). Now since one has committed the act against LOUIS personally, how would picking out a person in the present deal with THAT? On applying Liability, how would it make ANY sense to “make up the damage” with the PT guy (Joe) when 1) you haven’t any damage to make UP for in regards to Joe, and 2) why would you possibly ever then eventually ask Joe’s approval to re-enter his “group” when you hadn’t even been opposed to Joe’s group in any way.
Now, I could go on about this to illustrate the complete nuttiness of it, but just writing the above is starting to spin me a bit intellectually, and I wouldn’t want to do that to you to any extent or anyone else reading this. Besides the utter nuttiness of this, you must realize that doing this in a representative way violates almost all of LRH’s previous work on conditions, which make the point continually that conditions are “real world” and that the formulas have to be real world actions themselves in their application (otherwise they have no real relevancy in improving conditions).
When RPEC first came out, many people on LOC applied this by “imaginary” formula write-ups (you know, the earliest condition not handled was when I blew up the planet Daffy, forty trillion years ago … and so if I applied Treason at the time, this is what I would have done … now I guess one could choose Earth to represent Daffy and do some work with Green Peace or something, but again note, THAT in no way has anything to do with Daffy and let’s be real. Nothing I could do in a current environmental way on Earth could make up the damage for killing three billion people when I blew up their planet). Anyway, the “imaginary” method makes MUCH more sense to me in doing RPEC than the “representative” method (though each is eventually worthless in my opinion). But LRH never gave ANY examples of how to do this backtrack stuff. And I don’t think he even COULD.
*now for my own experience in this. Somehow I got into a 2D past condition re: my brother, whom I didn’t disseminate to back in the 1970s when I got into Scientology (he was a Christian for a while and then a Hindu!!!). But my brother died in 1973. So, I picked out a “representative”, a young man I had been very close to since he was born and I always considered a younger brother. He was 21 as I recall when I picked him out to help me apply this condition. And I worked through Liability and applied to him to re-enter “the group” I did have some wins doing this, but it was SENSELESS. The young man was on staff so actually didn’t need me to disseminate to him (I did some other dissemination actions in a Muslim community!). But the bottom line is that even though I had a win and got “keyed out” temporarily, the condition application HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY BROTHER AND HANDLED NOTHING IN REGARDS TO MY FEELINGS OR ACTIONS TOWARDS HIM.
**Marildi, I think if you were honest in evaluating this procedure, you would have to look seriously at both LRH’s muddled thinking on developing this and at Scientologists’ reactions of accepting ANYTHING Ron wrote as COMPLETELY sensible and workable even when it wasn’t. While I feel it is a failure of intellectual integrity to reject and/or deride all of LRH’s work, I feel the same standard needs to be directed at ACCEPTING as truth or workable ALL of his work as well.
I did RPEC on LOC too – the “imaginary” way you described. Later, when it got corrected, since I had no more attention on it the handling was to leave it at that. So I haven’t actually done it the “corrected” way, and to be honest, I don’t know if an MAA or Ethics Officer would agree with my understanding of it. But they would have to show me their reference. I know the one I’m using, in addition to the RPEC reference itself. This is the way I see it, using your example:
Joe: “…Now since one has committed the act against LOUIS personally, how would picking out a person in the present deal with THAT?”
The reference I think applies is the one that describes how to do conditions and exchange by dynamics. Here’s a quote of part of the instructions on exchange by dynamics (emphasis in caps is mine):
“Now, have him consider ‘his own second dynamic’. What does his second dynamic give his first dynamic? What does HIS second dynamic give THE second dynamic and what does it give him?” (HCOB 4 Apr 72 “Ethics”)
Per the above, a person can consider his OWN dynamics as well as THE dynamics. This makes sense to me because I think it’s true that there is a general intention and “thrust” for survival in the various areas of life – which would be “the” dynamics.
So in the case of RPEC on King Louis, you would need to consider which of “the” dynamics you had a past unhandled condition on. For the Liability formula, as an example, you would make up the damage on that dynamic or portion of it, be it a person, a group, or whatever
With regard to what you wrote here: “While I feel it is a failure of intellectual integrity to reject and/or deride all of LRH’s work, I feel the same standard needs to be directed at ACCEPTING as truth or workable ALL of his work as well ” – I fully agree.
I no longer accept everything LRH said just because he said it, and if I thought RPEC was wrongheaded I would absolutely say so.
Basically, if a person has attention on some past lower condition, I do believe he would release the charge by doing RPEC on it as I’ve described. And that would be because of doing something in PT that made a difference in the “real” universe.
Marildi, I think that the method you suggest above re: THE dynamic to do the formula on is a bit ingenious I must say, and yes, that does make sense to me as a handling that would be workable.
HOWEVER … I do have to point out (and I really think you already know this) that the “Marildi figure out” is not in the HCO B itself (which it could easily be if LRH knew how he wanted this procedure done) and so is not in any way “standard” which was once the agreement we all had in the CoS as to how to do technical actions. Not that this would bother me anymore as I note below.
Philosophically I am not now against the idea of something like the RPEC being done on a basis of “do it however you and your twin or EO think is workable” and proceed in that way. But I also have to point out to you, and not intending to butter you up with too many compliments here … but Marildi, you are only sharper than about 99.9% of the people I met in my 35 years in the CoS (while the pretense in the CoS is that “some” folks above us know what the “corrected” way to do things is and the word on that goes down to the hoi polio. I no longer think there are any people at the top of the CoS with such knowledge and I now don’t think there was in 1975 either.)
Actually, Joe, the tech (standard) I applied was essentially the word clearing tech of “how it IS that way and how it ISN’T that way.” It brought to mind the data on exchange by dynamics, and it clicked for me that the person (or entity) was part of and involved with a dynamic that still exists. You yourself probably see that now without necessarily looking at it strictly in terms of “the” dynamics.
It might not click with everybody right away, using that particular piece of tech, but since the RPEC procedure is to first clear all relevant terms, including “dynamics,” any and all other word clearing tools can also be used – such as clay demos, which are very powerful, as you know. These other tools also cause a person’s thinking to loosen up.
But thanks anyway for the compliments. 🙂
Hoi POLIO???!!!! I meant Hoi Polloi of course!
Let us hope that this week’s RB, especially, reaches those who’ve already been suppressing such thoughts. Sometimes, it’s a small thing which can push one’s “tilt” button enough to create a far different future. RB, you’re a very subtle genius!
Once again RB, you’re scary accurate!
Scientologists demonstrate their best ability with their minds by never being sure of what they mean.
The word ‘certainty’ to a Scio means to wait and see what happens. It could be suggested that the Cof$ exclusively sells a Bridge to Total Uncertainty. That’s also why Scientologists are so against alcohol and drugs – they give generally brief, but fun certainties.
For example, who in the fuck likes cal-mag? Because it’s written in the tech, Scios do, but you know they are lying, it tastes like battery acid and the only calming effect it has is when you forget to drink it!
I think the word ‘certainty’ scares the shit out of them. Because they’re not certain of anything in the cult…
Luckily, I Yawn, I never even tasted that shit. A win for me!
Regraded Being… another great insight. It is exhausting to be a scientologist… like the man driving the car, with the mental gymnastics and conflicting thoughts, all the while fearing dear leader and Knowledge Reports.
Scientology claims to heal insanity, but only serves to promote mental illness in its parishioners.
For those who finally “blow”, after the initial shock, the feeling of having the weight of scientology off your shoulders is heavenly.
WAYC, I think all members are on edge all the time. And the lack of sleep amplifies it. It truly is physical and psychological torture. What a fucked up cult…
Sleep deprivation is the sign of an evil cult. If you are deprived of sleep, it is a heck of a good sign to get out.
Great one, RB. Thank you.
I wish it was that simple for all. I have some ‘true believers’ flying here to visit for a few days. They have no idea that I post here. We are very careful to avoid off topic conversation with them. They have disconnected with almost everyone else on our side of the family, so I do my best to make sure that we can continue to have a relationship. They are older and sincerely believe that their eternity and immortality depends on the cult. I may sound like a hypocrite, but I love them unconditionally, even if their belief system doesn’t support unconditional love. It is so exhausting walking on eggshells.
I hate the cult, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t still love the individual members, delusional and misguided as they are. Sigh.
I’m with you on all of this.
We don’t drop our family and friends just because of the cult. We didn’t drop the non-scios when we were believers, and now we don’t drop the kool-Aide. (including spouse) 🙂
We’re good that way and we know that if you cut out all the folks who don’t think just as you do, you end up alone in a room by yourself.
….
Not everyone gets this. I once had an MAA question me quite closely on why I wanted “to be in comm” with non-scios. I pointed out that this was most of the world. 🙂 She was 15 and didn’t get it.
A 15 year old MAA. Classic Scientology.
Yep. I always referred to the CMO as “the screaming teenaged girls.”
A fifteen year old passing judgement on you. This is something right out of Cambodia’s Pol Pot’s killing fields.
That is scientology, in a nutshell: children filing knowledge reports on their mothers, immature teens judging forty-year-old adults on their “questionable” behavior, while some disgusting guru squats back at home base and gets rich.
The guru’s age is over, thank you internet!! I so SO much enjoy watching the scientology gong show in its death throes. I just hope it doesn’t go down like Waco or Jonestown.
They are lucky to have you.
I was very fortunate to have a friend there, when I finally woke up.
It helps.
I wonder, does Mike have his top ten RB? And which of his comics author consider the best of the best?)
“What would a Scientology Friday be without RB.” We’d all be going through withdrawals…
Brilliant post, as usual RB. Loved it. The way they were afraid to disparage DM reminded me my recent experience about how he is viewed.
When I was an SO member, LRH was the one and only God in the cult and no one would even consider someone even close in stature (other than MSH). A couple of years ago, when Lois and I were faking our allegiance to the cult to keep our kids from disconnecting, I was questioned on a meter, numerous times of my views towards COB. I didn’t think of him as anything special and responded “he is a good SO member” (they could take that anyway they liked but I felt they wanted something more from me than that). Then when we were doing our amends project (yes, we did that…) the OTs working on the files project never once asked Lois what LRH was like or what it is like working directly for him – it was sort of a yawn. But when I told them that Lois recruited DM into the CMO, they were shocked. REALLY??? She recruited COB??? Wow…
It is amazing what brainwashing can cause. They can take an ordinary Kim Jung-un and turn him into a god or royalty.
Off topic, but dm has got a very good Book 1 present at Mexico:
http://www.excelsior.com.mx/opinion/enrique-aranda/2017/05/12/1163038
It says, in Spanish, there is no go for the AO in Mexico!
Dave,
And your buddy Lee Baca just got 3 years in the slammer for orders to obstruct a civil rights investigation by the FBI. (time for you to clam up)
Si!
The translation of that article is tricky to understand but well worthy of a read. Looks like it’s a nice and polite way of Mexican authorities telling Scientology to “fuck off!” Thanks ED, interesting post comment.
It’s written in a rather formal Spanish often used by newspapers, and on top of that it makes references to an official and legal system that operates quite differently from the Anglo-American one that most of us are accustomed to, so it doesn’t come through an automatic translator very well. I think the translations get the gist of it, though; and google does better than Bing.
The word that is translated literally as “simulated” after temple, has connotations more of pretend or imitation – it might better be translated as something like (faux) temple or (imitation of a) temple. The columnist is starting off with a pretty critical dig, there.
If anyone is dying for a better translation of some part, let me know, I don’t have time to do the full piece since the automatic translations are at least serviceable for conveying the general meaning.
Thanks, you explained it well. Same result really which ever way it’s painted = GF Scientology!
Hey, as long as it says No Va, I’m good!
lol, thanks for the news 🙂
Yes, according to the translation, $CN’s new project was stopped due to criticism from the surrounding property owners. Unfortunately, from my experience in dealing with these issues myself in Mexico, the bureaucrat in charge will accept a ‘fee’ (bribe) to analyze the area/project and then determine the project could go forward.
All the better for Miscavige to do something like that. More potential corruption fodder to be exposed. There comes a point when even money doesn’t produce the same results it use to. Scientology is a toxic organisation which does toxic things. Any competent but corrupt politician will think twice before dealing with them. A stupidly corrupt politician will just take the money and run and to hell with the consequences. As I said earlier regarding the aquarium fiasco, it will turn around and bite Scientology in ways they cannot comprehend. The news of that Clearwater bribery event for a block of dirt went viral for Scientology in political circles worldwide with serious satirical overtones for Miscavige and Muffins. If anything it probably got Muffins more work offers from the shadier side of life. For Miscavige it painted him as a dangerous but stupid fool with way more money than sense.
This is in a rich and very religious neighborhood, both jewish and catholic. I think this explains the situation.
“But wait. If that’s the way I feel, why do I stay in?”
I’m going to go way out on a limb and say, brainwashing? Followed by stupidity? With a dash of arrogance? But, hey, who am I to say, I’m just a Wog.
Don’t forget the oldest and most fundamental driver ………………… ‘fear’!
All the MAA will need to say is “Perhaps some sec checking to free you up from all of your overts, sins, transgressions and so on will improve your tone level.”
That is usually all it takes to drive the average $cio way back into his/her head is a mass of fear and confusion.
I think those teenage mutant ninja types in the MAA offices love to watch the effect they can have on the older folks! I remember Alphonso at Flog seemed to particularly enjoy watching the old folks arrive for their sec checks. I really don’t mind that those types remain in the SEA ORGE; better to know where they are rather than having ’em run loose out here where we enjoy our freedom!
Yo Alphonso and Jasmin,
How are your stats this week? Are you still on post or have you been busted to the RPF?
Once again for the 10th time, I stand corrected. How could I have missed ‘fear.’
Newcomer didn’t correct your reasons, OSD, he just added one. I’m going to add one too: habit. People form habits, good and bad, and they get very comfortable with them. Being in the Scientology cult for decades can be a hard habit to break.
Put a dash of Tabasco in there, toss it with a little garlic, lemon juice and olive oil, add a side salad of fresh greens with a touch of shredded rocket with pine nuts, finely chopped semi dried tomatoes and a light snow covering of grated parmesan. Dress it with caramelized balsamic and enjoy. If it’s a hot day, wash it down with a super chilled but very crisp Pinot Grigio. That’s what a “wog” would do!
That’s what I would do!
See, Scientology can be fun and tastes good too.
Sounds to me more like someone coming to his senses and beginning to ask the vital questions of himself. How different is it from what all of us who were in went through. We didn’t “suddenly” know it all. It took awhile, processing what we’d experienced, what we’d seen and heard and what our doubts were. Once a person has put both years and a lot of money into something, it takes some processing and inner looking to come to a new conclusion. Yes, some of us got a lot out of it, too, and that needed consideration, as well.
The guys in will be very surprised when they realize the suppression they’ve experienced is coming from within the very church they subscribe to. Its an awakening sure to give one nightmares for a while. But its all worth it. Get out now friends, don’t remain and continue to be part of the problem. Thanks for the Friday morning lift RB and Mike.
LOL! “I think I meant to say something else”! LOL!
But seriously, I think I failed to appreciate what a huge humiliation the Clearwater Bribery Attempt was for David Miscavige. This was to be where he showed his flock how a big being controls the wogs and gets things done. He flies out John Travolta and Kirstie Alley, he has big presentations for individual city council members to skirt public meetings regulations all of which draws enormous attention to the epic fail of it all!
What is there not to love?
I’m very curious as to how Miscavige is handling the Clearwater debacle, since he put so much into “making it go right,” and even put his prestige on the line, but got so resoundingly defeated by the City Council. My guess, based on doctrine and history, is that it got blamed on SPs, inside and out of Scientology, and that there is a furious hunt on for them, as well as . I would not be surprised that now, we will see years of skirmishes, from “noisy investigations” to lawsuits, and perhaps efforts to undermine the CMA such as support of seemingly independent opposition. I also wonder if there will be some further, piqued retaliation beyond just the apparent Sea Org boycott, perhaps escalating to Scientology’s version of a “spite fence,” some sort of building project that they can get away with without city approval, but that is over-the-top in some way.
p.s. EDIT: “as well as .” at the end of the second sentence, should read “as well strategizing about how to get what they want through other means, such as legal challenges and attacks.”
Yo Dave,
I suppose it is time to ‘git er done’ Dave. Time to call in Mr ‘Ruthlessly slamming in ethics’ Cruise to help with the rehabilitation of Clearwater. You and Tom should be able to pull it off Dave. Obviously it was a bit more that what You could do with only Your size of being. But if you get numero dos AND tres working together I’m sure it would be a slam dunk Dave.
Hey, You and Tom could fire up your twin motorcycles and then invite the Ding-a-Ling gal along. One of you might have to get a side car thingy or if you get her a tri-cycle to ride that might work. Imagine Dave …… the three of you all dressed in your big being leathers all pull up to City Hall to lay down a heavy dose of Severe Reality Adjustment Dave.
You would become the ‘irresistable farce’ going up against the immovable object. Who’s gonna prevail good buddy? Mr acid mouth or the good citizens of Clearwater?
It sounds like the invasion of the dwarfs. I hope the stairs aren’t too big for them to walk up. It may take them awhile…
And another light bulb starts to shine. RB nails the Clearwater Clam mindset.
The Clams actually have minds? And here I thought they were all mindless.
Is this some sort of chicken and crossing the road scenario Dude?
Oh! You’re good! Real good!
DM: “This is bullshit….it’s mine mine mine, I tell you…it’s mine (as he balls up his fists, stamps his feet and begins to sweat profusely)….Xenu said Clearwater belongs to me….me, I tell you. ME!!!
And city council sits there and wonders who the fuck Xenu is.
As usual, this week’s Regraded Being hits the spot. I’d love to see one about the new TV show The Handmaiden’s Tale, starring Scientologist actress Elizabeth Moss cogniting that the Church of Scientology sure seems to resemble the Republic of Gilead.
Great comparison, m 2 c !
+1
Loving this show and how she survives overwhelming suppression. Many comments on HULU point to how close the show matches the current political climate… timely, though it’s based on an old novel.
Very spot on analysis of the CW fiasco blow-up, RB. Good job!
Applause RB !
Having said it, you’ve said it all.
Hilarious!
You know that you’re other-determined when you have to pretend in public that your cult got what it expected when, in reality, it got the exact opposite!
You know that you’re other-determined and in a killer, mind control cult when uttering (or even thinking) anything but praise for Dear Leader will put you in danger of being ratted out by your spouse and children, then being subjected to lengthy interrogation (at your own great expense) for your “thought crimes”.
You know that your religion is a fake one, based completely on pseudo-science, when…you wake up every morning, right before you slip into your “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no truth” Good Scientologist valence!
Excellent one RB and ended with the PERFECT question!
(Also very cool to read the comments last week how your wonderful creations here reached someone in the bubble and helped to bring them out! Thanks for your work week after week!)
Mike –
Great posts this week (always, but this week was especially good)! My son’s closest friend, who witnessed their buddy get sucked in & disappear/disconnect in the last 18mos has been asking about CO$. I sent him here & to Tony’s blog. He said the stories have helped, but actually seeing the propaganda & constant fundraising the cult puts out here on your blog has helped him to better understand & learn. Thanks again!
What would a scientology friday be without RB.
Was hoping you would do something like this.
As ALWAYS, RB sets us up for the weekend! Thanks pal!
I only get half that deal, it’s already Saturday here.