I know there are some withdrawal symptoms accompanying the end of the Sunday Serial. To help, here is another of Terra’s signature essays.
Groups, Collaboration, and the Bank
In Keeping Scientology Working, L. Ron Hubbard wrote, “The common denominator of a group is the reactive mind. Thetans without banks have different responses. They only have their banks in common. They only agree on bank principles. Person to person the bank is identical.”
I don’t think so.
The common denominator of a group is not the reactive mind. Such a notion is not only a gross generality, but accepting that these minds exist and that they’re identical is ludicrous. All the crap cluttering up my foggy mind is not the same junk cluttering up Tom, Dick, and Harry’s.
Thousands and thousands of groups of people working together have created many extraordinary and wonderful things in this world. From cars to spacecraft; from adding machines to computers; from fire starters to microwave ovens, from working in dank caves to sparkling universities and private companies, groups of men and woman have acted together to improve our lives for millennia.
Yet LRH would have us believe that everyone working at NASA has only their banks in common. Forget “purposes;” forget “goals;” forget “ideals;” the only things these scientists and engineers have in common are their reactive minds. Since LRH wrote, “It’s the bank that says we must fail,” it’s a miracle we made it into space, much less, off the ground. If anything, our minds direct us to survive and work for the betterment of our fellow man.
Zucchini
You’d think that after quadrillions years of the bank ordering us—all of mankind—to fail, we’d be in a fairly vegetative state by now. And yet somehow, despite all our setbacks, homo saps continue to invent and create a better world. We still wage war, pollute our environment, and allow kids to go hungry, but we’ve also developed cures for horrible diseases, flown to the moon and back, and carry around computers in our back pockets. We have a lot more in common than our banks.
Survive!
LRH also said the common denominator of existence was “survive,” and that survival was “considered as the single and sole Purpose.” Regarding the Dynamics, he wrote, “Survive! (sic) is considered to be the lowest common denominator of all energy, efforts and all forms.” Specifically concerning the third dynamic, he continued, “This is the effort to survive through a group, such as community, a state, a nation, a social lodge, friends, companies or, in short, any group. One has a definite interest in the survival of a group.”
On one hand, LRH wants us to believe the only thing a group has in common is the reactive mind and that groups only agree on bank principles. On the other, he says that each member has an innate urge to survive by being a part of a group. These two concepts seem a bit contradictory.
Apparently, LRH could discover and invent technology but when a group bent on survival tried to help, their creations were considered detrimental to mankind. According to LRH, anything a group comes up with is destined to fail and end in disaster. Except of course, with regards to the Sea Org, in which all its members rise above the bank.
“The finest organizations in history have been tough, dedicated organizations.” Really? Even though the common denominator of all its members was the reactive mind? Which orders everyone to fail (except those in the Sea Org)? LRH wanted Scientology to survive as a group only as long as he was its benevolent dictator.
Comm Lines Wide Open
“In all the years I have been engaged in research I have kept my comm lines wide open for research data. I once had the idea that a group could evolve truth. A third of a century has thoroughly disabused me of that idea.” LRH, KSW.
LRH’s comm lines were as open for research data as an exposed sphincter muscle in an Arctic blizzard. Despite what he promoted, his comm lines were never wide open for research, data, or anything else having to do with his technology.
Minds Off
“We will not speculate here on why this was so [how LRH came up with Scientology all by himself] or how I came to rise above the bank.” The last thing any good cult leader wants is for his followers to question his methods. However, this is exactly what rational group members need to do. They need to speculate; they need to ask why; they need to see all the research notes; they need to see these “thousands and thousands of suggestions and writings” which LRH referred to in KSW.
“…altering Scientology only comes about from noncomprehension (sic).” Again, false. More often than not, altering Scientology comes about from trying to make something better that wasn’t working. Modifying the tech comes from PCs failing to achieve the wins and gains they were promised.
LRH couldn’t conceive his tech wasn’t workable. Then again, maybe he did and was trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
But…
LRH’s writing is riddled with contradictions and ambiguities. Groups are not evil entities whose common denominator is the bank. Often the opposite is true. A common denominator of many groups is their purpose to help others—Doctors Without Borders and the Aftermath Foundation to name two.
Humans do best through collaboration. Members bring expertise and insight to groups, helping and supporting each other by overcoming obstacles and building upon the foundations of others.
Not all groups are bad; not all groups “only have their banks in common.” Groups are good; groups are part of life. You just gotta hook up with the right ones.
Still not Declared,
Terra Cognita
Dear Suppressives (LOL!),
Sorry I didn’t respond earlier to your barrage of entheta and nonsense but after having read the usual nonsense in response to one of my posts I simply thought there was nothing new or interesting to respond to. Mike and Aqua have a misconception of verbal tech which I have now corrected below (honestly – these Admin types!); Brian vents forth with his usual drivel and even has the temerity to start talking about OT abilities after his shenanigans on his back porch running “OT3! without a meter for 3 weeks (one dreads to think of what he was actually doing in his “sessions”!); Gus Cox and Wynski can’t wrap their wits around simple and obvious theories and a few others just throw some negative comments my way. Yep, pretty usual fare.
FP, I see you’re certain like the Captain on the Titanic, having been told by the builder that the ship was perfectly designed and unsinkable, never mind the nattering about an iceberg, and some reports you haven’t confirmed personally about water in a few compartments….
And I assume you still can’t be bothered to read or comment on the account of the world’s first “clear” and the one and only Hubbard designated “pope” of Scientology – unable to evaluate that data? If you want to dismiss that as just of a minority of negative voices – quite a large minority, it appears – then what other, larger body of accounts do you have to suggest that we should read, of what Hubbard and Saint Hill were really like?
If you can excuse Hubbard for being an unreliable psychopath, why not admit that there’s really not that much difference between Miscavige and him, that the CofS has always been dysfunctional and failed to deliver what it promised? You still have the same basic apologistic argument that you’re making anyway, that despite all the lies and insanity, the proclaimed discoveries that didn’t work and false claims of “research,” there is a perfect and infallible “tech,” and an immaculate “subject,” that somehow emerged.
Well if it doesn’t work, what are you bleating on about then? Surely if such was the case the subject would have died in the 1950s?
As for taking the word of one disgruntled man about Hubbard’s petty foibles, who and which many on here seem to think is “Scientology” (the subject matter and technology is Scientology, not Hubbard), who cares if Hubbard shouted and swore at a steersman for steering the Apollo near to rocks or he picked his nose when he was 27? If such ad hominem nonsense about Hubbard is the best you can come up with to denigrate Scientology then if people can’t see through such balderdash then there is no hope for them.
And lastly I knew many many old St. Hill staff and the stories they told me were the complete opposite.
I make a joke which is called “ad hominem” and yet this whole website is just full of ad hominem comments and stories about Hubbard and other Scientologists. Good for the gander but not the goose eh Mike?
FP, Hubbard wasn’t just a man with petty foibles, he was a convicted criminal and a proven bald-faced liar – though things like that were kept hidden from you as you were forming your allegiance to him and his organization.
And it does get to the heart of the “subject,” because, for instance, there’s no evidence that Hubbard was telling the truth about his claims of research in Dianetics – unless you know where we can see the nearly 300 cases of proof he claimed were on file.
Dianetics did actually collapse around the end of 1950. Hubbard may have found ways to keep it going among a small group of people ever since, but you have to know full well from Scientology’s theory of “implants,” not to mention the history of mankind, that it’s little more than a parlor trick to get a certain number of people to convincingly believe almost anything. If Scientology were truly workable, why hasn’t it ever grown beyond a few tens of thousands of true believers, or had some undeniable impact such as producing leading figures in multiple fields (as other religious and cultural groups have succeeded at doing)? Even the indies are failing miserably, though they have the freedom to avoid Scientology’s organizational dysfunctions and to try new things – surely at least one group outside the CofS should have figured out how to make things “boom” if the tech were “workable”?
The problem with Scientology is that perhaps the one thing it does that’s “workable,” is to use the tools of totalitarianism to enforce loyalty, and to extract labor and money from adherents, resulting in significant abuses – and borderline if not actual crimes. That makes it harder to just write off compared to other odd, but benign, beliefs.
We so called SP’s just call them as we see them! If you did not post your BS here you would not receive our disdain!
Best bit of advice I’ve ever come to is, ‘best to leave Church of Scientology well alone if you wish to live.’ Mental death has many facets, and Scientology rates right up there with the most insidious.
Is there anyone out there that is willing to admit to be being a Dianetic Clear by Hubbard’s definition? The state of Clear is probably the biggest single contradictory mumbo jumbo composed entirely of make believe, with a big dash of ‘wana be’ coercion thrown in for good measure.
Or how about – “best to leave Church of Scientology well alone if you wish to keep one’s crimes from being disclosed?” with that horrible e-meter? Yep sounds pretty good.
Oh, so you’re still in the Co$ I take it?
You take it wrongly.
You didn’t want your crimes disclosed?
Hey, what is Marty Rathbun up to these days?
I never go to his site for fear of picking up some scientology malware.
Nothing new on his blog since February
Eating his wife’s cakes, redoing their kitchen for her bakery, and counting his money.
Just a guess.
Loathe as I am to cast “blame” especially on Tech and Qual staff who are usually trying their best, but really Terra, you must have been particularly unlucky to have had the supervisors, word clearers and examiners who let you get away with harboring this nonsense which you spew out on a regular basis (again), and seemingly all throughout your Scientology “career”!
Let us take (only) one of your misconceived and misunderstood “items” from above. Every Scientologist I know (and I know quite a few) realizes that the CONTENT of each individual reactive mind is of course, different. Hubbard even mentions this somewhere. The structure and principles involved with it however are the same from person to person. The CONTENT is different. So don’t try and hang out your shingle on a false premise and with the hope that others, with similar misunderstandings, nod their heads sagely and “yes, I never understood that either!” I could go on, and on, and on…
As someone else said (not me – honest Injun) or rather implied a while ago, perhaps Mike needs a Qual section to qual these daft so-called “technical” stories before they go into print, as anyone who has studied Scientology will read this and other articles from Terra and think “Wow! He must have MisUs!”
As for the rest of you who are agreeing with this nonsense, report to Qual.
You are the uncontested king of verbal tech FP. You alter and interpret everything that doesn’t fit your arguments. You just changed what LRH said. Hang your head in shame.
Dude can’t help himself.
Foolproof, I hear you and frankly do not disagree. But what you’re saying is not what LRH said. What you’re saying is not what LRH said and if you were in a courseroom you’d be pinksheeted for dubbing in that the content that differs from person to person while the structure and principles involved with the reactive mind are the same from person to person. Listen, don’t get me wrong; I’m ok with what you said. It doesn’t bother ME. It actually makes sense to me that peoples’ banks vary in their content but remain the same contextually. That said, you’d NEVER get away with it in a Scientology academy course room for sure, for the simple reason that its an Alter Is of KSW. Its NOT what Hubbard said. You CANNOT add or subtract words or change in any way ANYTHING that Hubbard wrote. And then, “Everybody knows” …? Whoa! Major flunk! Supervisor’s head spinning like Linda Blair’s in the Exorcist!
Remember, Foolproof, its “LRH as its written”, or nothing. THAT is Scientology. Anything else is “squirrel” Your interpretation of what LRH wrote, however workable, is squirrel. Your thoughts?
Crickets until the next installment of mental vomit.
Aqua, you really should not cross swords with me on such matters. What you are talking about is very adequately covered in HCO Policy under the Supervisor’s Code. And anyway, who gives a damn what is told to people on here?
“The structure and principles involved with it however are the same from person to person. The CONTENT is different.”
That’s irrelevant. The Fatman said that people in groups only have their banks in common (regardless of what is contained therein) and thus can’t “evolve the truth.” That conclusion is so obviously wrong it’s not even worth arguing about.
But with a name like that, should you not take COB Dave’s advice and wander on down to Hollywood Boulevard?
Classy reply demonstrating once again that scientologists’ default is ad hominem attacks according to the scripture of Hubbard. Even down to the level of attacking him FOR his name.
Well, unlike you, at least he has the courage to use one.
I thought it was a good and apt joke. “Ad hominem attack”? It was a just a joke – if you can read an ad hominem attack into that, well…
“To set an example of the effectiveness and wisdom of Scientology.”
— LRH, #19, The Code of a Scientologist.
LogicProof. This is one of the times Hubtard would have done well to study syllogistic logic. If the content of the banks are all different, they could NOT agree on anything amongst themselves as they would not have it in common.
Sometimes you are quite thick No-Wynski – do all people have engrams, secondaries and locks, and circuits and valences etc. Got it now? Go to the bottom of the class.
More insane babble as Hubtard claims that the bank takes the incident’s CONTENT as literal and THAT (the content) forms the “agreement”. And, as since the CONTENT is DIFFERENT from person to person there could be no bank AGREEMENT. As the BANK doesn’t REASON it doesn’t KNOW its own structure. No more than a hard drive knows it is a hard drive.
The only babbling going on here is your comment above..You’ve just stated what I have stated and of course twisted it around to cover your wrong tracks.
This is great Mike. Giving a comment to Logicproof is like using a computerized insanity generator program. Even if you put in 2+2= you get out complete insanity ready to copy & paste.
Jeesh. Arguing what LRH said to make Terra wrong. Wow, at least you are consistent, FP.
Foolproof, you are not following the tech. LRH says “don’t talk to critics, find their crimes.” What word in this statement don’t you understand?
Now I will demonstrate my psychic powers of foretelling the future:
You will now avoid my question and find fault with me as a person. Such is my OT powers!
I think I get your name now. We are the fools and you are the proof against us. Must be lonely having to deal with fools everywhere and you are the only one who gets it.
Very good Brian.
However, Foolproof is WRITING to critics, not talking to critics. I give him a pass on this quote. 🙂
Thanks Jim, very non-suppressive of you! Back-Porch Brian should really Method 9 Critics of Scientology.
Your sad devotion to this so-called religion hasn’t given you anything you didn’t have inside of you beforehand.
The irony of it is that you are totally correct. As Hubbard himself said. We have just forgotten it. Sorry to spoil your little theory.
KSW!
Hello Foolproof, Good to see you again. You have a unique perspective (IMO).
I would like to take up your last sentence. “As for the rest of you who are agreeing with this nonsense, report to Qual.”
The way I see it Foolproof, the majority writing on this blog HAVE reported to “Qual’ ( shorthand for the qualifications section). I am referring of course to life at large in the physical universe, earth , 2018. We are finding what works and what does not work whilst experiencing life in a human form. Just as there are “Qual’ divisions in Scientology there are ‘Correctional Facilities’ (prisons) in most countries. In both instances the end result of visiting “Qual’ is a generally hardened view of everything and intolerance of additional viewpoints: And both cases some really nasty individuals. I prefer more freedom of thought and action than that provided by XXXX-ologys, YYYY-ists, or ZZZZZ-crats.
Good luck, happiness, and fortune in finding what works for you.
Well the purpose of Qual was to correct the (Scientology) technology being used if it had wandered off the rails, not to have a genteel discussion as to the efficacy of other therapies. So if one wanted to use some other practice one was free to do so, but Qual was never there for this sort of thing you are implying. Also to juxtapose prisons with the Qual Div is about as far apart as you can get.
I for one welcome Foolproof.
Foolproof, I hope you keep reading the internet with an open mind and welcoming other viewpoints into your life. The truth is out there, so dig in and find it.
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“…suppressive like me is in total haste to use his keyboard to have at Scientology” We are waiting with baited breath…
Foolproof.
As we know Hubbard’s drivel in the DMSMH book centred upon the “reactive mind”. Now, the object of going “clear” is for a person to no longer be influenced by this “reactive mind”.
Hubbard said that a “clear” is immune to accidents and illnesses. How come then that when I was involved in this money making farce, I used to know a fair few “clears” and “OT’s” who were constantly catching colds and other illnesses, and a fair few of them used to have accidents too??
Or are you going to tell me that the “tech” is not wrong and that the reason for these accidents and illnesses is nothing to do with Hubbard’s “tech” being complete bollocks?
As Jason Beghe would say, “Show me a fu£&ing Clear!!”.
It seems that you are the sort of person that if Jesus re-appeared you’d be waiting with a pile of stones and a wooden crucifix ready to nail him up again.
As to being ill I have never been ill in all of my life and I cannot recall the last cold that I had, which was also a very long time ago.Still, I am a well-audited case. And also quite Clear.
I assume you know about PTS/SP technology so perhaps it was that the people you knew became ill in your presence, not that I am saying you are suppressive or anything, of course.
As for Jason Beghe – “show me some IQ”!
Actually I have a lot of respect for peoples’ religions. It’s just the cults I don’t like………..
Yes, I am aware of the PTS/SP “tech”. When I was doing the course I realised one day that scientology was “the item”. So I left. Life has been on the up ever since!
As for the people who became ill in “my presence”, they were having accidents and illnesses BEFORE I came onto the scene, and after I left……………..
As for Jason Beghe: He’s obviously got more IQ than you. He got out. You’re still attached and drinking the Kool Aid………….
Yes Terra Cognita, many contradictions and something, which I have stated before, that is also not only contradictory, but damaging, is the invalidation/evaluation constantly made on the parishioners.
Invalidation – you are not moving up the Bridge fast enough
Evaluation – you need FPRD, you have evil purposes that prevent you to do that.
After 100s of hours of Solo NOTs the person feels done.
Invalidation – No, you have not achieved the EP.
Evaluation – you need the Clear State verified…
And we can write a book about it Terra Cognita, but I think this is enough for today.
Glad you are not declared yet.
TC, great article. One more Hubbard truism in the trash. The man who would be god.
Truly insane.
Casting Tubby as a *benevolent dictator*? Bwahahahahaha! Thanks for the snicker.
Benevolent Dictator??? There’s no such thing!
“Thetans without banks have different responses. They only have their banks in common. They only agree on bank principles.”
THEREFORE, agreeing with what Hubtard wrote and scamology principles is a BANK response.
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“Groups never come up with anything useful, therefore listen to me.” So we have a bunch of people feeding their babies with his stupid barley crap, dusting their cars with turkey feathers, and washing their windows with newspapers and water.
As usual, the Fatman was full of shit.
“That barley crap”. I know a couple who fed their infant with Scientology barley formula. Nothing else. The mother refused to stop smoking because she was afraid of gaining weight and of course the cult assured her that barley formula was SO much better than “mother’s milk”. Well, maybe HER milk because she smoked and wasn’t that healthy herself. This couple had all KINDS of problems from day one with this infant.. Many allergies, severe asthma, ear ache prone, continual colds and flu, sore throats – a sickly infant and a very sickly, whiny, unhappy extremely cosseted and overprotected little kid. . Many sleepless nights for them because he had no inhaler. Never would they give the child conventional medicine but boy did they keep him the cult bubble – cult grade school thru 8th grade and probably now the parents will hit up their families to pay for the kid to go to Cult High. More likely he’s being home schooled.and ison staff at the org. When he hits 16 they’ll dump him in the Sea Org, if the SO will have him, because he stil has health issues and I never saw a kid more attached to his parents. Clings to them like a shadow so the SO may not be for him and vice versa. But the parents told me – get this _ “Being in the Sea Org has been his purpose all his life”. “HIS” purpose…sure.
Oh, lord…
In Hub’s world, everyone is identical, bank or no bank. The bridge is the same for everyone. There are no deviations.
KSW is the mother of all appeals to authority and emotion. It is an instruction in deindividuation, emphasising collective identity over self. The group is all. That’s why status is such a commodity. Self identity and self worth eventually become meaningless.
Bingo
“Landru guide us, LANDRU!” – Star Trek TOS/”Return Of The Archons”
It’s all for “the good of the body.”
It’s been my experience that good ideas come initially from individuals, and then evolve and develop as a result of others who recognize the idea as a good one. (And some good ideas are more difficult to recognize than others.) Unfortunately, bad ideas tend to evolve in a similar way. Case in point. . .well. . .you know.
Just another example where Tubby pulled something out of his *ss and he published it without much thought.
Narcissist that he was, he couldn’t have tossed the idea out in a bull session to have others comment, perhaps spot the glaring inconsistancies in that premise. He could NEVER have submitted any of his “research” for peer review, since he HAD no peer, never in the past 50,000 years of human societies, not in the quadrillions of years since we/he created the universe.
“They only have their banks in common. They only agree on bank principles.” When I read that, I think it’s part of a recipe for setting up everyone to think alike – and since Hubbard is the reference standard in Scientology, for thinking like Hubbard.
“I once had the idea that a group could evolve truth.” According to people like Ava Berner (along with her husband Charles, known for the idea for “study tech”) that was exactly what happened in the 1950s and 1960s, that Dianetics and Scientology evolved from a group – with Hubbard taking credit for everything. I think what happened starting in the 1960s, was that Hubbard found that he couldn’t work well with others and didn’t like giving them credit, and that Dianetics and Scientology weren’t working as expected or promised despite all that group effort; so he blamed everyone else and tried to go it alone, apparently only possibly realizing at the end of his life that maybe it just wasn’t “workable” at all.
Real research is mostly about studying previous technology and research and then advancing the field with new technology you create, which is mostly about finding out how NOT to do something. (Between the food industry and keys, I have more that $2 billion in new products sold at retail that were based on my patents over the past 40 years. So i have both the theory and the experience as a “researcher” and over my lab door it still reads: “If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research.”)
In my opinion, LEH was seldom/never honest to himself or others in his reseach, which was not to improve the lot of man. Instead, it was guided by his lust for power and money. And, I don’t believe his research was guided by his desire to help his fellow man so Scientology didn’t help him either at the end of his life. Instead, he died physically cripled, quite mad, suicidal and very rich. RIP
This is an excellent article, Terra. Interestingly, one of the biggest losses members feel after leaving, or walking quietly away, is the friends and loved ones we’ come to care so much for. The people we lived with, those we w orked with, met or hung out with while on staff at work or on lines as public. The group of those we came to find gave meaning and joy in spite of what Hubbard said about ‘bank’ commonality. Those we cannot tell our innermost thoughts to because it will endanger them or us or both, and others we need or want to stay connected to when policy says we can’t if we speak what is in our hearts. I have always felt that fear and fear of consequences are the enemy’s product we face when daring to look beyond the indoctrination. We may not be able to save our loved ones and friends, but we can hope that one day they will see that they can no longer tolerate being in a group that is controlled by lies. Thanks for writing this article. May it spart the flame of truth on those reading it under the radar and pondering their sitations.
Good post Terra. KSW is the ultimate kool-aid beverage.
I took a sip of the ultimate kool-aid once. I spit it right out.
Excellent points. Well written. I never agreed with that ksw crap. it was too one sided and absolutist. ugh. I am so happy I am not there even though I just had a nightmare last week that I was somehow back in session and woke up in a cold sweat. LOL
Given his great pretenses, it is all too easy to forget how uneducated and incapable of research following sound methodological principles Hubbard really was. All too often his writings sound a lot like someone who just spent fifteen minutes reading an article in Reader’s Digest and is now regurgitating it in an effort to appear knowledgeable as well as pass the ill-digested content off as one’s own.
Add to that Hubbard’s drug intake and mental instability, his pulp drama aesthetic and his unrelenting determination to utilize ideas he came across to his self-aggrandizement and utmost commercial benefit. And it’s certainly no surprise that the results are self-contradictory, difficult to make any sense of and often, frankly, just plain idiotic.
Today’s mental meanderings sound an awful lot like a superficially understood and ill-digested case of “collective unconscious.” You have to hand it to the fat dude: For someone hating the “psychs” as passionately as he claimed to he stole an awful lot from them!
And his constant make wrong of others. In every anecdote whether its on a policy letter or a tech bulletin or on one of his Congress lectures, etc., he’ll tell a story and the underlying theme is almost always that he wanted to do something one way and others wanted to do it other ways and THEIR ways were ALWAYS wrong – always, always always wrong – and HIS way was ALWAYS proven right. And so forth.
Only groups that use lots of Scientology tek and admum when they make a movie like Travolta’s Gotti.
New York times:“That the long-gestating crime drama Gotti is a dismal mess comes as no surprise. What does shock is just how multifaceted a dismal mess it is.”
the Guardian:The film has scored a rare zero on the well-known review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes.
After the runaway success of Scientology TV (google trends:https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=scientology%20tv) it makes you believe in magical OT powers:
Cause over screwing up everything in the loudest and most self righteous way possible,objective and subjective.
Cult was toast a couple of years ago.Time to stick a fork in it.
Hey Terra , thank you for addressing the contradictions , a much needed service!
Today was a good one , so essential to the indoctrination.
Not being able to discuss any of it at the time , it makes me realize that I fought a personal war against blanket statements that put everybody in the same basket without really knowing what I was fighting against , having been indoctrinated as well.
Damn !
But maybe that’s why all it took for me to get out was Debbi’s Cook’s email and unraveling the madness thanks to Mike and Marty at the time, and the brave people who spoke out.
That tiny light that never went out served me well in the end.
Didn’t fatso say, ‘You’re mocking up your own reactive mind.?’
OSD,
Yep. I liked much better what LKin wrote in his book: “From the Bottom to the Top”…………………. Flow Zero all the way.
OR…………. You did it to yourself.
It is so disheartening to find out the length of manipulation and deceit L Ron Hubbard used to get us to work for free and give up everything…including money, jobs, friends, family and dreams so he could live his lavish lifestyle and how David Miscavige took the reins and keeps the scam going.
Very sad indeed.
That is how I see it too.
Sad at first, as you start peeling the layers off the onion, but as time goes on, as you read more and more (especially the stories of the survivors and those who were once just as dismayed as you currently are, but are no more), you will come to find more freedom from the mindset Hubbard sucked us into. There is joy in knowing the truth, the facts, objectively. Hubbard knew that truth sets us free, hence the lies. Try to remember that these moments of sadness in knowing, these ‘bognitions’ are temporary as you walk away from these lies. Best wishes to you
If only the soul-freedom were true.
Being a religion, this supernatural status of the non-existent soul (as Hubbard conceives of the soul as separable and re-positioning the soul outside and controlling the body from outside), Hubbard chosing the “religion angle” within which to label Scientology, is the only thing that is “working.”
It gives a huge central false hope, soul freedom, to Scientology’s core.
I am just flabbergasted that ex Scientologists are deflected off of the central false promises of Scientology.
“Parts of Man” chatper of “Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought” book, list clearly the soul’s ability to be outside and controlling of the body, and that that is the optimum condition, and that that is the goal to be achieved, by somewhere along the line doing the Hubbard quack/tech/pseudo-therapy–exorcism-of-Xenu’s-unleased-“body-thetans” that Scientologists will be able to attain and maintain the out-of-the-body soul status for themselves.
It’s a massive false promise, but legalized by Hubbard labeling Scientology a “religion”.
Scientology piggybacks on human history’s misconceptions and false beliefs in soul-freedom (“….exterior with full perceptions…..”).
Were this only true, that the soul is separable from the human body, and that that soul-freedom status/ability is achieved and “maintained” by doing Scientology procedures.
It is the biggest false and “omitted product” in Scientology selling hope to customers.
Tubby might have wanted for nothing, and had hot-and-cold running servants, but by all indications he didn’t live a *lavish* life; certainly not as nice a life as Dwarfenführer leads. He was probably too afraid to be that overt. (pun unintended, but accepted.)
Don’t be sad, Out. You saw the truth and got out (well, mentally out, and your body will follow). If you’re capable of it, others are too. Others will see. Many already have. Take heart. Those who are not committed to living with the truth will go down with the ship but those who do care about their own integrity will realize, as you did, as we all did here and as countless others elsewhere realized that there’s no Bridge To Total Freedom that can be walked while lying! THESE people WILL leave. Take heart. We’re really glad you’re here.
..”there’s no Bridge To Total Freedom that can be walked while lying! …”
What a wonderful phrase.