We have so many people ask us when we are coming back to continue our work, but, circumstances have made some things impossible right now. So, we were thinking of things we could do and wondered if a Podcast might be something worth looking into. We could record episodes without a team of people to operate lights and cameras etc.
What do you think of the idea?
If you think it might be worth exploring, we would love to hear what you would be interested in hearing about. And even ideas for a good name for it.
Are there specific things you felt we didn’t cover in The Aftermath series but should have? Are there things you would like us to expand on? People you think we should talk to? Subjects we should delve into more deeply? Something else?
Give us your thoughts. We are all ears…
Phyllis Reid says
It’s so very important to continue your work!! The one thing I would like to suggest is to add closed captioning to your Podcast. My brother is a 100% disabled Vietnam veteran and LOVES the work you’re doing!! His hearing was damaged in Vietnam so the only way he can enjoy things online is if they have closed captioning. He and I fully support your work and appreciate the sacrifices you have made and are making.
David Moore says
Hi Mike & Leah
It is so brave of you both to continue to speak out against Scientology.
I live in the UK and remember walking past their shop in Tottenham Court Road where they were giving away Dianetics I seem to remember (with a catch – you had to speak to them first – I think it was where timeshare companies got their ideas!). I was with my parents and this seemed kind of interesting and sci-fi but luckily for me I did not stop to find out more.
I wonder if you might explore Scientology in countries like the UK where of course it originally had its world headquarters in East Grinstead and only very recently, under COVID-19 lockdown, it has been reported that Tom Cruise has been spending his time in quarantine is allegedly exploring moving here to be close and looking for some mansion nearby.
The British legal system seems to be openly critical of Scientology calling it “pernicious nonsense”,”dangerous material” and “immoral and socially obnoxious” It has been described in Parliament as a socially harmful enterprise which indoctrinates children and other vulnerable people by “ignorantly practising quasi-psychological techniques”
It seems to operate here as an Education College under Australian charity law per accounts (audited by an Australian firm of accountants) freely viewable at Companies House here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/FC009154/filing-history but is not a UK registered charity, Interestingly it declares that there are however no transactions with its Australian “parent”
I wonder if some of its overseas operations in terms of finance, taxation and legal status might be its achilles heel and more open to investigation?
Yes please do the podcast!
Best wishes
David
Natalie Scotland says
I’ve just recently watch your series The Aftermath from Scotland. I’ve been aware through the media about the many horrors inflicted by Scientology..I watched Going Clear.. but nothing has given me more insight into the injustices and complete brutality than this series.
Please please please do the podcast! Your message is going around the world. Don’t give up the momentum. Keep the pressure on and hopefully the authorities WILL do something! It’s still shocking to me that they’ve done nothing yet.
Love to you both, and all the survivors, from Scotland.
Ria says
I would love a podcast. But there’s one specific topic I’m eager to hear about: I noticed that “Scientology and the Aftermath” never discussed L. Ron Hubbard’s education–unless I missed it. Did you know that LRH was mentored by Aleister Crowley? When did you find out? Could you speak more about it?
Nicole Jackson says
I have watched the 1st season when it first aired, and I remember a very good friend of mine was a scientologist, before that she was like my big sister, and all I kept thinking i need to get her out of there, she would tell me how she disconnected with her mom for 8 years because she wasn’t a scientologist and that her mother wanted her to come home and knew that the organization was no good for her, I even thought about joining just to try to not have her be there alone, but I couldn’t get pass the nonsense of what they were promoting. My friend decided to disconnect from me when i couldn’t go thur with it. Which pissed me off, lol ,long story short I planned on getting my friend back, my sister, I got my chance, had her brother and my husband get her in my car and drove her to her mother’s house, we made her sit down with us, and Google scientology and watched your show, and alot of talking with her other family members.
She is now safe and free from the cult and til this day her mother thanks me for bringing her daughter home.
just finished watching all 3 seasons and I must say it takes alot of guts to stand up and fight, even bigger guts to stand up to admit that you are sorry for the things you have done and want to help others.
Please Please do a podcast, this will help so many people that need to hear more and to gain the courage they need for the friends and family that are scared and need this support. Your show gave me the guts to get my friend back, you never know what your podcast can do for others.
Never give up the fight, I still believe others need your courage.
Mike Rinder says
Thank you Nicole.
This is the sort of thing that makes everything worthwhile.
Congratulations on getting your “sister” back. Amazing.
Gordon Peter H. says
Yes, please do a podcast, I’ve learned so much from the series and love the work that you two are doing. By watching the show, I’ve also been well informed of the cultic practices Scientology, (ie. mind control, manipulation, megalomania, micromanaging and mob mentality.) and it’s hardly limited COS. Even my family and myself are locked into a perversion of a MLM association with a lot of New Thought ( “Positive thinking”.) from so-called “Christians” who own the “company”.
It would be an extra plus to cover other cultic groups, just like the Jehovah’s Witness. NXVIM is one. Plus, I’m in one. Over 60 years of experience with mine.
God Bless You, Mike and Leah!
Tracie says
A podcast would be great idea and would tune in
Typical says
Yes, please do this!!
Anonymous says
Hi! Could you focus on race and Scientology? What is it like for people of color in Scientology? Also, are there any gay people who have exited Scientology who could speak to that experience? Any conversation therapy?
Also, will you address what has happened to Marty Rathbun?
Sarah Larkham says
Yes, please do a podcast Scientology you and Leah have done great work with the tv show but that only scratched the surface. It would be interesting to hear about other people’s experiences in Scientology. From a fellow Aussie
Pearl says
Yes please do a podcast. Thank you Mike, Leah, and all your brave guests for bringing to light such darkness that would still be hidden for so many of us who had never heard anything about this before. They say knowledge is power and I am a firm believer that most people at our hearts want for good to prevail. I feel a podcast could help keep those of us that want to help but have no clue what the first thing we can do to be able to know how we can help. Again, thank you for your transparent honesty and daily bravery.
Carrie says
First, thank you (and Leah) SO much for “The Aftermath.” My husband and I watched it while we were in a cult, and though we were never in Scientology, the series helped confirm that the red flags we kept noticing were eerily similar to Scientology, and eventually came to realize that the “church” we were a part of was actually a cult. Thank you for everything, enduring so much abuse for the sake of the victims, and for what I know is such a cost of speaking out! You will never truly know how many people you have influenced for the good!
I love the idea of a podcast. Coming out of a cult has been extremely difficult, and had many effects, and I think having a means of helping people see that they are not alone would do so much good! I really appreciated the Jehovah’s Witnesses episode you and Leah did, and I know I am not alone in escaping a non-Scientology cult. There are, unfortunately, many more cults you could expose.
I think possibly conducting interviews with people who have left cults and lived to tell their stories could maybe be very inspiring to others. It could be not just their negative experiences of escaping a cult, but the positives of the freedom they experience after their escape.
Again, thank you for everything, and I know that is such a ridiculous understatement, given all the abuse and harassment you and Leah have endured. Please know it is not in vain and it means the world to so many of us!
Whatever you end up doing, I will 100% listen to your podcast!
Ria says
I know that Leah Remini and Mike Rinder have expressed specific, personal interest in Scientology but if you are interested in exposing other cults, A&E’s “Cults and Extreme Beliefs” is a great program that you can also watch on Hulu. There’s episodes on NXIVM, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Children of God, and more. Perhaps you could reach out to A&E with your story and petition for another season.
Melanie says
My husband and I would LOVE to see you guys get a podcast. Your Scientology series was so addicting…and informative. I think the work your both doing is inspirational!
ED says
SCIENTOLOGY USED TO BE FUN IN THE 50S AND EARLY 60S .. IT WAS LIKE GOING TO COLLEGE…AFTER ALL THIS ETHICS B.S. IT HAS BECOME A NUTTY ORGANIZATION .. THEY SPEND MORE TIME AND $$$$$$…….. ON CONTROL, INVESTIGATION, SPYING, ACCUSATIONS, LIES, AND REPORTING ON EACH OTHER AND ARE TURNING OFF MORE AND MORE PEOPLE AWAY…..FROM A GREAT TECHNOLOGY …..AND NOW THEY HAVE LOST A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE…. SCIENTOLOGY SHOULD GET BACK TO BASICS BECAUSE THIS CRAZY ETHICS CRAP IS RUINING THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION…AND THE PEOPLE IN IT… YOU CANT EVEN MAKE A JOKE ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY…OR COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING OR ANYONE EVEN WHEN THEY ARE WRONG…… .NOTE:.PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE CLEAR SHOULD BE ABLE TO AUDIT THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEIR OWN OT PROCESSES UP THEMSELVES ….. LRH OFTEN USED HIS STUDENTS MATERIAL AS HIS……BACK IN THE DAY…. HE WAS NO ANGEL AND HE WASNT A GOOD SPEAKER… JUST READ OR LISTEN TO HIS RAMBLINGS THAT ARE HARD TO FOLLOW……… BECAUSE HE DOESNT STICK TO THE SUBJECT…..
Tom PRYOR says
On one The Aftermath was the story of a staff member who escaped on his motor bike, was chased and run off the road. As he was picking himself up, the cops stopped to help and he just shrugged off the fall without reporting the perpetrator.
It made me wonder when is that c*&# David Cabbage going to get hauled before a court!!
Forgive my Aussi descriptive language!
Mike Rinder says
Tom. That was my good friend Marc Headley. He wrote a great book called Blown For Good. I highly recommend it.
Brandon says
YES YES YES
Scott J Smith says
Love how y’all have worked to bring to light the horrors of Scientology! Thank you!
I’d love to help do a podcast about how veterans and others who suffer chronic pain are collateral damage in the “war against opiods”.
As a 100%disabled vet vet I’ve been in constant chronic pain for 28 of my 56 yrs. It took me 14 yrs to get my pain treated by anything stronger than 800mg motrin. After firing my Dr in front of the whole clinic, I was treated, reasonably well and had better quality of life. I never failed a urinalysis test, & always took my meds as prescribed. I was the 1st vet in a generation to have my pain treated in Knoxville, TN.
Three yrs ago the VA forced my Dr to taper me off my meds altogether, with no alternative treatment. My Dr quit because she knew how much I suffer. I have MANY horror stories of my treatment at the VA…including suffering incredible pain from a broken neck after my Dr gave me muscle relaxers after I told him I had something terrible happening, at least a bonespur!
I now live on less than a 3rd of the dose I was on for 13yrs…from a civilian clinic. I live in a state that doesn’t even have medical marijuana. My quality of life is almost non-existent…I live in the bed without any means of cardio exercise… I am afraid my life will be cut short.
I think it’s terrible anyone should suffer like this. We can’t even protest because of the pain…so it’s nigh impossible to bring it to attention.
Thanks for the opportunity to share my story.
S.
Christie says
Yes! You should absolutely do a podcast.
M.D. says
How about a blog on how to kick cos out of Clearwater?
Danielle says
I’d LOVE to hear a podcast with you guys!!!
Kymberly says
Definitely do a podcast! ❤️
Cover all things Scientology!
Theresa Kilroy says
I am not finding on here where to leave a comment about the podcast so I am trying through the reply section. i just finished watching the 3rd season and was sorry to hear there would not be a season 4. I had heard about Scientology before but never knew anyone that was in it. My husband and I have been watching the 3 seasons and I must say I am driven to do something to help. I am willing to do whatever is needed. I live in Ohio and I am a research nut. I told my husband we should find a Scientology building, sit outside with a sign saying “If you want our-Run for my Car”. Unrealistic I know but my heart went out to all the people who had been abused as children. I was abused from 8-13 by a step father so I have survived and have gone on to help others and have written a book called “Somewhere in America-The Voices of Domestic Violence and Child Abuse” It is like your show, The voices are their own stories and includes my own. Anyway, there has to be SOMETHING that those of us who have been moved by Mike an Leah’s show to help continue the battle, to help those still suffering inside and help those who have had the courage to break free. Thanks and Mike, yes do the podcast. You have to continue this battle or they will win.
Sandy says
You’ve covered a lot of the internal workings and abuses. There is still little about the WISE orgs and how non-scientology folks get drawn into it. That might be helpful to raise awareness around.
Kim F. says
I think a podcast is a great idea! Continuing interviews with former or escaped Scientogists; a section on topical news that week that could be related; highlight past and current court cases; any legislative or regulatory issues related to Scientology; any Clearwater related issues; any issues with other municipal entities and Scientology; etc.
LETESHA says
Interview victims of human trafficking so people wake up and realize that this isn’t a joke. That you and other victims of the abuses you’ve suffered are real and what happened to you is real and that if we truly are a world of good people we will stand up together and put a stop to this.
I’m ready to say enough is enough. I will no longer stand idly by while other people suffer.
Jeanne says
I would like to hear about Scientology and their view and treatment of people with disabilities. I guess more specifically those with intellectual disabilities. I have a son with Down syndrome and when watching the series—especially episodes with the Sea Org—I imagine that his birth would not be permitted or if born he was have to be adopted out or some other horror that I don’t want to think of.
I just don’t imagine them accepting anyone they deem physically or intellectually ”imperfect.”
I wish I could express myself better.
ammo alamo says
I’ve been thinking about your podcast. Here’s a name: Pair Game.
That’s a take-off on Fair Game, of course. As an intro, the day’s interviewee gets to spin a wheel or whatever and wins a prize – some takeoff on Fair Game, such as “Six PI’s in your back yard having a barbeque, eating your steaks” or “No expenses paid trip to a hot California valley desert with your choice of a ditch digging, b moving heavy furniture, or c being beat on by a diminutive 8th grade dropout”
At the end, have an outro with some real-life take on some CoS abuse: fundraising, rape, child abuse, near-slave conditions, disconnection. Or some other abuse within the church. Like “Joe blow from Kokomo, a 22 year veteran of Scientology who was forced out for liking the wrong Facebook page, reports he hasn’t seen his daughters in x,xxx, days due to Scientology’s enforced Disconnection policy.
I think a podcast is a great idea, but make it different – less lecturing than Chris Shelton, and less seriously in-depth than Jeffrey Augustine.
They say go with what you know, so the underlying theme could be what happened as a Celebrity Public and a Born-In who was promoted to the high rank of an OSA Executive. Perhaps the interviewee could be another celebrity public or church executive, comparing notes with Leah and Mike.
In Scientology, truth is stranger than fiction, which could be a feature segment of your podcasts, along with “it’s always worse than you think.”
A really interesting segment could be “the way we were,” interviewing people talking about the way they were before, during, and after their stint in the church, and especially how they got out and how they dealt with leaving the church behavior behind.
I would like ideas to be as current as you can make them. It’s great knowing what happened in 2001 or 2008, but that was a long time ago, and much of it has been told.
Podcasts length: max 40 minutes.
If possible provide a transcript, like they do with Democracy Now interviews.
Podcast fan says
Yes to podcast! Love mark bunker’s idea of “troublemakers.” I would like to hear more about companies and organizations that wheedle their way into the wider culture (drug free world, abc mouse) but are actually related to or founded by cos people. One of the miss New York pageants groups for instance finally said they’d stop havin their winners appear at drug free world school event s after a journalist at the bunker reached out to them. And ABC mouse has been advertising on social media nonstop to take advantage of the ho,schooling’s situation—parents should know who owns that company and how their dollars are supporting scientology’s Abuses.
Taylor says
Hey Mike! Long time reader, second time commenter. I would absolutely subscribe to any podcast you and Leah produce.
I would encourage you guys to have guests and recurring segments. Continuing to tell the stories of Aftermath will be important, but so are guests like Louis Thereux and the Reckless Ben guys. Answering listener questions like you did on the Aftermath AMAs, etc. You could also continue to plug your foundation for greater visibility.
Laura says
Absolutely
Sarah Haslerud says
Yes! I think there is an element that needs to be discussed in more depth & clarification… the intimidation and all the pieces of this tactic. I just read Catch & Kill by Ronan Farrow and saw SO MANY of the same tactics done by the sexual predators in his book that are done by cults and their leaders. The intimidation & manipulation factor goes deep and nurtures a the power ego. It is also a circle of behaviors that has everyone covering their tracks because they have their own secrets and they all know them so they cover for each other. This circle of covering for each other by like individuals is huge! It is fueled by ego, power and privilege. It is a drug and the addicts get their fix by preying on the vulnerable and getting away with it because they think they have the power and ego to do what they want.
We have seen people following blindly in religion, politics and specific economic circles. What is it about the “leaders” of these circles that can spin a web of manipulation and gain followers to help maintain that web despite their morals, values and scruples. Using fear to undermine successful people to go against their own mind to do their bidding.
This isn’t a practice and behavior happening in the so called religion you have focused on, it is happening all over and bringing this out for people to identify and learn how to protect themselves is important.
I’ll listen to your podcast!
Thanks for listening.
Mike Rinder says
YEs, fabulous book. I wrote about it here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/catch-and-kill/
Jordan Correlli says
Hey Mike loved the show, you and leah are incredibly brave and selfless in the fight against that cult. A topic for the podcast that you guys maybe did not discuss in the show and may have was Jenna Miscavige Hill because she has a great story and has had her fight against scientology. To have an indeph interview with her would be great. Again you guys are very incredible and as podcast listener I cannot wait for it to take surface.
Ron Goes says
Yes, the subject should be the how scientology contracts conflict with the common law. What we are seeing in Hong Kong is the common law in conflict with the dictatorship of the CCP. The basis of he common law is that no written law or contract can foresee all possible contingencies. This idea strikes at the very nature of scientology.
Betty McC says
Yes please!! A podcast would be amazing!!
Robert King says
Not sure what a podcast is but I’m sure it would be great.
I’d like to know how the “church” is dealing with the virus ECT. Are they even legally allowed to stay open? If they Are?
This virus has got to be putting a dent in their $ flow.
I’d like to know the update with Tom Cruise and other actors… who’s still in , whos out. …
KatherineINCali says
A podcast is an online digital audio file that you download to your computer, phone, etc. You listen to people discuss different topics. Podcasts also might be a series, a blog, stuff like that.
So, in this case, the podcast would be Mike and Leah (and whom ever else they bring on) discussing $cientology.
Patience Ray says
It would be nice to have some sort of updates as to what is happening regarding where Scientology is seen to be heading after your documentary series. Like any more leads about the so called leaders wife .
Robyn says
Yes!!!!!! Please!!!! The world needs you! Your work must continue! I’d love to hear more about how/where Scientologist live. There is so much more to uncover!
Michelle May says
I would like to hear about Scientology internationally if they have tax exempt status in the US do they have it everywhere else? How are other countries approaching Scientology because US citizens working overseas usually have to pay local country as well as US tax?
Also I would like to know how people have rebuilt their lives, the aftermath but the stories of positivity on how people have created a new life, the struggles but the achievements like your sister Leah.
TalkIng point on what is actually being done now! Status update on people leaving.
Why hasn’t David actually responded?
Love you guys and Mikes voice melts butter 🙂
Jon H Soeder says
Dear Mr. Rinder,
I ran across a book that you may of heard about or not. It’s called “Alien Interview” and covers a lot about what Hubbard was supposed to have discovered. The actual event of the interview happened at the end of the Roswell crash. It’s not a heavy read but opened my eyes, in that I am an OT VIII and have read all of the “confidential data”. I have to say it actually made me quite angry when pretty much all of the interview was later attributed to Hubbard.
Hubbard said that he would never use brainwashing techniques on his staff or students; every course, auditing training, etc. one has to read and re-read KSW. And then we wonder why those close to Scientology are so violent and near psychotic when it comes to challenging the Church with truth. It is an interesting point and a simple technique that has been applied to all of us.
If you haven’t read this book (would probably take an afternoon) you will be astonished. It was all known before 1951.
TR says
This so-called “alien” uses concepts, definitions and idioms well-known to anyone who has conducted even a cursory study of basic scientology materials. While the book claims to be directly sourced from transcripts of interviews with the alien, no evidence is given to substantiate the claims. Therefore, the work can be assumed to be fabricated in the immediate period before actual publication (circa 2000, I believe). I conclude that it’s a highly-entertaining (particularly for Scientologists) hoax and innocuous to the same degree that Scientology itself might be considered to be.
Allison says
Please do a podcast!! Love you two together. It would be interesting to hear from either a former prosecutor or FBI agent with knowledge on this kind of stuff to talk about why law enforcement can’t/hasn’t stepped in (in a big way) especially since the release of your show. I also would be interested to hear more about David Miscaviage and what he does everyday as well as more insight into his personality and likes/dislikes.
KatherineINCali says
What Miscavage does every day? That’s easy.
Drinks a sh*t ton of expensive McCallan, abuses his members physically, emotionally, and psychologically. Lies incessantly.
Yells and screams like a banshee. Blames everyone else for his screw ups. Enjoys breaking up families through the threat of disconnection.
Takes in a hell of a lot of money, but can’t be bothered to spend it on any actual good cause or to help others in need. Spends hours upon hours in deep paranoia of being deposed in the current lawsuits. Hides from process servers.
Lives a life of luxury while members go bankrupt and staff and Sea Org members get paid pretty much nothing for their 18-hour work days.
What a guy, huh?
Jasmine says
Yes please. Progress & moving forward despite the circumstances is your motto. This may even work out for the best. Please keep up the good momentum.
Stephanie says
I would love to hear a about the struggles and joys after scientology…. the moments where people fall into their old mindset and have to stop themselves, when they find an unexpected joy that they wouldn’t have experienced had they not left, their new faith journey…do they believe or adhere to any religion or denomination now or why do they not.
It would be discussions about real life after scientology that could inspire and give hope to everyone and make ex-scientolgists more accessible and relatable and human.
Anna says
Stephanie, that’s a very good idea. I’ve also been out since 2009 and so many good things have happened to me since then. Showing how well people are doing outside may have more effect than pointing fingers. That was done and now a new path can be taken.
Tom PRYOR says
Well Stephanie, after Scn I met and married a christian and became one myself. I have kept using a lot of stuff I learnt on course and remember some great wins but I ended-cycle on Scn about 40 years ago. I am surprised that I don’t see anything positive from others who have got out. I do feel I need to be reserved in being too positive otherwise people might think I am a current Scientologist trying to sneak in some propaganda!
Robert Cassidy says
sorry…typo. Should read
“Stories From the Fringe of the Internet”
Zola says
Yes, podcast is a great idea. Topics include all the usual suspects; I like hearing stories of how people got in and got out of the cult, what straw broke the camel’s back…was it a sudden decision or building over a long time. Kind of like when you were sent to England and receiving those helpful YSCOHB communications from the dickhead himself…and you reached the end of your rope, or chain as it were.
I would call the series:
Bubble Trouble
or
Stories from the Fringe on the Internet
Ms.P says
Yes, yes, yes, podcast please. Would love to have ex-sea org interviewed regularly to continue to expose the horrors. And more exposure about Davey boy.
Tina says
Yes, yes, yes. I want to know what I could do to help. I do not really have much $ but I want to help the people that are escaping.
George Patton says
I think it’s a great idea and I’m sure Dave does too.
At this point Dave (I hope you don’t mind me calling you Dave) knows he’s nothing more than a Grant Cardone the difference being of course Dave has a license to steal and cheat. He knows this and he knows everyone, well not everyone but many know this too.
Heaven’s to Betsy….what happens if Tom stops calling?
Wanton55 says
Don’t do it Mike!
Never get involved with any kind of media system you will regret it.
Aquamarine says
Why would he regret it, Wanton55?
Loosing My Religion says
Yes why? It must be logical.
Grade Zero Graduate says
Undoubtedly tinfoil-hat related
Richard Hill says
My wife and i would LOVE to hear a podcast from you and LEAH !! It wold be a breath of fresh air!
Pat Diamond says
Yes! You could cover things that you could not show on tv.
Tori says
Yeah I am sure that there is a lot stuff the show didn’t cover
KatherineINCali says
Are you for real? Hope you’re just being facetious and/or sarcastic.
The Aftermath series was a HUGE hit, winning one Emmy and nominated for a second.
Since you haven’t responded to anyone’s replies, we may assume you’re trolling for $cientology. Anything to say?
irishgirl1266 says
Podcasts are great now that folks are out walking more and listening to such. Yes please do them. Agree with Imaberrated, don’t rehash what is already being done. Make it fresh. Make it current. Make it real.
T.O. focus seems to be on old COS things and legal suites that are dragging on and on and on… he is great but I tend to skip most of his stuff now. Would like to see him as a guest with some new material. Love to hear more from Aaron too. Chris is good but seems to have moved away from COS to other cults. Clearwater would be a great backdrop.
I think the audience is interested in what is happening now not things from 1972 – plenty of books, pods, websites, to learn the history.
I think most people in FL are interested in “How will WBM make a difference in downtown and are there any success stories to report. ” “why can’t he get the 20 year old restraint order lifted?” Maybe a legal mind could help with this. What are CLW police doing differently these days (if anything).
Yes please include what you could not say on the Aftermath. We are waiting for some good news.
Derrick Mitchell says
A podcast would be great. Tics could include updates on previously discussed topics if any new information or change in status. You could discuss how Scientology and the city of Clearwater are working together or not. Also, possible information on any litigation towards Scientology.
Thanks for what you do!
Sarah Blodgett says
Yes please! You won’t be censored by anyone and can speak your minds and tell all the stories.
Richard says
On Aftermath 3 it was mentioned several times words to the effect, “What kind of cherch tries to attack and destroy its critics?” This is done at the direction of its founder with a CIA type playbook and probably distinguishes scn from most or even all other cults.
If it’s going to be a series of podcasts maybe limit them to about 30 minutes. During this Wuhan Virus situation people might have limited attention to another societal problem.
Richard says
The podcasts could have topic titles and the public could pick and choose which ones most interest them.
Kelly Hanahan says
Absolutely do a podcast! You and Leah are a great team and a wealth of knowledge and humor. I would love to hear about other cults as well. Also, updates on Danny Masterson’s trial (please may there be one soon) and the “where’s Shelley” issue.
Vanessa says
Yes!! They way you and Leah were able expose this cult is phenomenal! People need to know the truth of this cult and be educated enough to know not to join, and how to help others out. As heartbreaking as they are, the personal stories are what brought me to the show and would bring me to the podcast.
Keep up the excellent work!
Roger Larsson says
Alan Funt created “Candid Camera”. Scientologists never smile when the truth is revealed.
Kim says
After the Aftermath-Survivor Stories
You could interview survivors of cults Or any story of resilience and survival. With y’all’s empathy, it would be phenomenal!
I’m ready to hit subscribe whenever you’re ready to do this!
Allison says
Yes we need a podcast!! I personally would like to hear more about what life is like actually living in the sea org. The day to day requirements and what they’re specifically doing at the sea org that’s “saving the planet”. I’d also like to hear more about other celebs in Scientology besides Tom Cruise (John travolta, Kirstie alley, etc.) also, I’d like to hear about what David Miscavige does in his day to day life as well as his leisurely time/activities he does for enjoyment that aren’t Scientology related. Also, having a psychiatrist on to actually talk about Miscaviges problems (that he clearly has)
Katie says
I like that idea!
Ryan Todd says
I think Leah and yourself should 100% record a podcast. Maybe just recap the shows for people that have no access to A & E. I myself am in the UK and its a hard show to find, usually buried late at night from what I remember.
I would definitely catch up with past interviewees and then take it on a topic by topic basis, start with a few episodes on LRH himself, the mindset behind Scientology. Then, as the show progresses include the topics that are important to know such as the tax exempt status, the invasion of Clearwater etc. If the topic was covered on the TV a quick recap and then a deep dive into information that wasn’t or couldn’t be included.
Quick episodes can be used to recap articles on the web, simply giving an overview and providing links for follow up.
Interviews with ex-Scientologists about things other than Scientology could work. For example if someone has a new book, podcast or other venture where people can contribute or help will be interesting. We know how hard it is to start again after leaving so every little helps, whether it be through subscribing to a Youtube channel, purchasing a book or shopping in an Etsy store for homemade jewellery. I think it can be easily forgotten how these victims have had to start their lives over again, some with no formal education or apparent skills after spending a lifetime in Scientology.
Lisa Adderson says
We would LOVE a podcast. I have been obsessed by the show and my husband is now obsessed to.
As an Aussie, do you know if Kate Cerbrano is still a Scientologist? She’s such a great artist and I hate the thought that she’s still in.
Alice says
Yes to the podcast! I would totally listen to it!!
Sactown says
Yes, please do podcasts. There is so much more information to cover about COS. COB, and most importantly, about the victims.
Take Em Down says
Remini + Rinder = Reminder
Loosing My Religion says
Lovely!
Skyler says
Lately, I’ve been binge watching some of the older seasons of Saturday Night Live.
My favorite seasons are 17 thru 21 (the Chris Farley years).
I seriously believe that many of those episodes contains ideas that would help you in constructing your podcasts. I think it would be too difficult to explain here. But I’m def not referring to Farley’s slapstick humor. There are plenty of other good ideas in those shows that would help people to see the ridiculousness (Is that a real word?) and I do believe you will enjoy watching those episodes regardless of whether you use any of their skits for ideas.
There are a great number of good ideas in those skits that will help non-bubblers see the ridiculousness of this scam and that will help them understand the complete waste of money associated with donating any money to them.
Chicken says
I love this name. My vote would be stick with COS: current events, escape stories and ALWAYS include information/resources on how to get out whether it is a public member or sea org member. Youtube channels are run by teens so can’t be too hard, right? 🙂
Aquamarine says
“The Cult Rundown.”
“Cult Survivors”.
“Cult Crimes”.
“Cults and their Survivors”
“Cult Survivors; True Stories”.
These all suck but I’ll keep trying.
Aquamarine says
“Closed Door Briefing”…might be TM’d though.
Loosing My Religion says
Aqua. Smiling. They don’t suck. Can be all good ideas. What counts first is what Mike and Leah will decide to address the podcast.
Aquamarine says
Thanks, Loosing, your kindness is appreciated. But they do suck 🙂 No self inval here, just stating a fact 🙂 That said, I think “Closed Door Briefing” doesn’t entirely suck and I checked and its not TM’d but although I like the ring it has to it, very likely its too bland a podcast title for the subject matter that Mike and Leah would be covering. Thanks again, though.
LoosingMyReligion says
Aqua. Welcome. Just duty from a blog mate.
Sherri says
Yes I would love a podcast! I especially like to know how we can help people who want to get away from Scientology, by providing transportation, finances, a place to stay while they put their lives back together, etc. Thanks for all you guys do and I thank God for your freedom!
MSHL says
Advice to those who know, work with, associate with Scientologists. I’m staying anonymous due to this
John Doe says
Well, reading the comments, there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for you and Leah to do a podcast or two.
At the risk of being the lone dissenting voice, I’m actually not that big a fan of podcasts for these reasons:
1. It takes a lot of time to stop and listen to an hour or so podcast.
2. Podcasts interviews tend to ramble; both the interviewer and the guests are frequently guilty of this.
3. Printed edited posts such as you’ve been doing are much preferred. They can be scanned through to find things I’m more interested in reading, often in 5-10 minutes, which is usually about the amount of time I can spend unless the subject really grabs me, then I spend a lot more time in the comments and such.
Scanning just can’t be done on a podcast, unless there is a transcript. And even if there is a transcript, it is tedious to go through it because of the rambling and the wordiness and the points where the conversation goes off-track.
4. Because there may be important info in these podcasts, I feel I may be missing something that may not exist in written form or summarized elsewhere. And that perhaps because the podcast covered the subject in depth, it may not be discussed again or at length at a later date.
5. The main value of a podcast to me is to hear an interview of an ex or former exec who has a detailed and important story to tell. I will suffer any rambling if it’s someone I know or someone with a vital story to tell.
6. An edited video interview or show is much preferred to any podcast, but I get it that a podcast can be produced at a fraction of that cost.
Deni Sellers says
I’m interested in anything you do. I’d love it!
Mark R. Bunker says
Of course you need to do a podcast. Now that you’ve mentioned it, it seems like such a no-brainer. I’d personally like to hear:
The ways in which Scientology is breaking their IRS agreement and arguments and actions that can be taken to strip them of their exemption.
Violations that should be reported and acted upon by government agencies.
How local elected officials such as myself can best counteract the devastating, economic impact Scientology has had on our downtown in Clearwater and educate local government as to how leader David Miscavige views and treats the government.
If there were to be a set of hearings done about Scientology’s impact in Clearwater, who would you advise should present testimony and on what subjects?
Would you and Leah Remini be interested in participating? If not, should you ever consider taking the podcast on the road, please make Clearwater a location for a live podcast.
As for podcast names:
Speaking Freely
Clear This with Leah and Mike
Troublemakers
That’s it for now. Since I got a new request from Scientology today for all utterances of any kind from me, I shall be submitting this comment for their enlightenment. One last question. Do you think this would be an appropriate signature for official emails:
“The head of the Galactic
Confederation (76 planets around
larger stars visible from here)
(founded 95,000,000 yrs ago, very space opera)
solved overpopulation (250 billion
or so per planet — 178 billion on
average) by mass implanting.
He caused people to be brought to
Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H Bomb
on the principal volcanoes (Incident 2)
and then the Pacific area ones
were taken in boxes to Hawaii
and the Atlantic Area ones to
Las Palmas and there “packaged.”
His name was Xenu. He used
renegades. Various misleading
data by means of circuits etc.
was placed in the implants.
When through with his crime Loyal Officers
(to the people) captured him
after 6 years of battle
and put him in an electronic
mountain trap where he still
is. “They” are gone. The place (Confed.)
has since been a desert.”
unelectedfloofgoofer says
Heck yes! And furthermore, where is Shelly Miscavige??? Her disappearance alone is enough reason to deny all Scientology applications until it’s resolved she isn’t being horribly tortured somewhere.
KatherineINCali says
Mark —
“Clear This” as the podcast series title is actually quite hilarious. 😆 I love it!
By the way, congratulations on your election. I was so thrilled you won!
Janel McMahon-Rel says
Yes would totally listen to this! You could really go into the ins and outs of Scientology without worrying about what u can’t say on TV.
Peggy says
I completely agree I would to hear from both of you and how some of the people who got out are doing and coping now …,
Mary says
I completely agree! I would love for you two to have a podcast!! We have missed you both alot!!
Joe Exotic says
Yes! I can bet you’d have endless content interviewing the countless people that have left Scientology since you started the tv show!
Tanya says
Yes to a podcast! I think this is important not only to continue to educate the public on the abuses of Scientology, but also to keep the pressure on in a very public way. The more negative publicity the “Church” receives, the more irrational their public responses seem to get. I think above and beyond a podcast being informational it is a great way to keep them their resources!
Tanya says
*keep them exhausting their resources.
Emilu says
It would be great to hear more shout why Scientologist are so anti psychiatry and how you had to navigate that before you left the church and even now.
Tash mahash says
Do it! I will tune in.
Julie Michaelis says
YES! YES! No brainer here. I miss seeing the both of you each week! This is a podcast I wouldn’t be behind on listening to. The Dynamic Duo return!
Mary Jo says
Please talk about the Trump Death Cult that is protesting their right to spread disease and Trump cueing them to inject themselves with cleaning solution.
Aquamarine says
Guaranteed there will be some Americans insane enough to do this because he suggested it. But if the disinfectant doesn’t work, when they die, at least their nails will look good.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Aqua,: I think that you would be great to help write my book. You have a similar sense of humor and I like your comments.
Were you Scn staff? You certainly sound like you know what you are talking about.
Richard says
Mary Jo – Trump didn’t “cue” anybody. Stupid comment.
He questioned if some type of internal medical disinfectant was a possibility which is admittedly rather dumb.
Mainstream media was happy to obsess on Lysolgate. Lol
Wynski says
Richard, is wasn’t dumb at all. Colloidal silver can be used internally and is a well-documented antimicrobial, that has been shown to kill bacteria, fungi and certain viruses. It is the positively charged silver ions (Ag+) that possess the antimicrobial effect.
Leftists jumped on this because they lack education enough to even ask they question he asked..
Richard says
Wynski – I agree. To me it was an off the top of his head question and he immediately asked the medicos for their opinion. I’ll leave it at that to stay out of politics here. 🙂
Billy G Townsley says
Podcast would be great. Definitely be on here for it. Loved the show!!!
Darren James says
I think you two should do what it takes to expose this cult or make them pay taxes,that will get poor david rattled also i would like to see if his wifes alive
Stephanie K. says
I would absolutely listen to your podcast!!! I would love to hear follow-up stories from the tv series or even new stories!! I hope you can get back to the tv series eventually! Y’all kick ass!!!
Kellye says
I would like to hear more about how Scientology can keep the kids from getting an education. I understand why it’s hard to help adults but this situation is a systematic abuse of children. I imagine they act like the kids are being educated but it wouldn’t be hard to find out that isn’t true.
Dena says
Yes! You keep shining bright lights in the dark corners of cultish behavior. Remini and Rinder … Reminder. Keep reminding us of the transgressions of moral and ethical depravity called Scientology.
Scnethics says
Maybe a show where you talk to people who got involved in scientology when they were adults – how did they get roped in and what skills or knowledge would have saved them from this fate.
Sally says
Yes! I would love a podcast. I am also curious about Shelley Miscaviatch.
Weather Watcher says
Yes! Scientology escape stories, any number of those. Especially by people who have escaped with help from the Aftermath Foundation. Or any good escape story.
Also, people who have experienced Scientology credit card fraud and identity theft.
Any Fair Game stories.
Go!
Kari says
I would absolutely listen to your podcast, if you make one! Stories like the ones you’ve been able to bring to light in Scientology and the Aftermath are so important. I think even just continuing the style of the show, telling the stories of people who have been impacted by Scientology and other cults/”religions”, will be a great format.
As someone who also listens to true crime podcasts, I can vouch for the popularity of the genre and it includes other cult-related podcasts.
These stories need to be told and we can’t allow these organizations to win through collective silence. I hope you choose to make a podcast!
Cheryl De los santos says
Anything controversial, lol. Really, you two are no-holds barred on Scientology and I know you could do just as well on any topic. Other cultish stuff is cool as is any oddities in Hollywood. Maybe even some historic “Other than mainstream topics. I miss watching and hearing you guys!!
Denise Mitchell says
I would love a podcast. I’m curious about what your personal beliefs are now and is having faith of any type difficult after what you’ve been through? Also, what can we do as citizens to help end the tax exempt status of the “church”?
smokkee911 says
Mike, I’m not a podcast listener but I would become one if you and Leah put some put, so please do!
As far as a name, there’s a lot of good suggestions! First thing that popped into my head was CultCast which would also make a great hashtag. I don’t know if that would be all encompassing enough for what your topics may be.
Good luck both of you! Hope to hear more about it soon!
Margaret Sachs says
Since most people leave a cult only after something particularly bad happens to them, and Scientology is particularly good at making members believe they should avoid and disregard any negative info about the organization, I’d like to hear a podcast with some brainstorming about how to convey briefly but cleverly worded information to current members in a way that might begin to sow the seeds of doubt in their minds. Billboards, for example, are probably way too expensive but could be made newsworthy with a new eye-catching message each week or month. Words projected on buildings are a good idea but have to convey meaningful info with even fewer words than a billboard. There must be other more effective ways to reach out to current members. An annual “Freedom from Scientology” march? Cute, visually appealing “You’ve been had” or “You’ve been conned” greeting cards sent to members? I’m not saying any of these are good ideas. In fact, the last one is probably really terrible! I’m just trying to get a creative thinking process started and would like to hear other people’s ideas.
Susie says
In my best Stephon from SNL voice…yes yes yes!!! Hell you could probably get Bill Harder to even record an opening intro as Stephon describing the craziest “religion” around and describe some of the actual crazy things LRH or DM has done and said.
Please do this and do a podcast!!! You won’t be as constricted as TV, while you would have to be careful you could get more in-depth or opinionated. Plus I can only imagine Leah unfiltered!
Corpse of Scientology says
Another YES vote for a podcast!
Make the title convey the idea that the cult of scientology is ending.
-Ending Scientology Podcast
This idea is paramount. Let’s all agreement that the cult is in fact ending, eradicating KSW and Hubbards plans to control the planet with his sinister fascist regime.
Richard says
Corpse of Scientology – Funny handle! Gave me a laugh. Lol
Donna says
Yes…please, I would subscribe today!!!
Ms T says
YES!! Would LOVE a podcast! Especially now. The positivity, openness, genuine empathy is so needed. Wondering how Scientology is dealing with the Pandemic and how all the work you’ve done is progressing 💜
Thank You for all you do💕
Noel Banda says
I’d absolutely love it if you two did a podcast! Updates on past stories from Aftermath would be great, to see how people’s lives have changed since the show. Also how social media and corrupt media play into things like the fair game policy. That’s the kind of thing that might’ve been hard to illustrate in a docuseries but would be great to discuss in a podcast format. I’d be interested in hearing more about other organizations that are under the umbrella of Scientology (i.e. narconon). Topics outside of scientology: other related issues you’d be interested in delving into (maybe benefits of psychiatric/psychology treatment for those wary of it from being longtime Scientologists, for example). I think I’ve rambled enough 🙂
T-rabbitt07 says
I agree 100% Noel. Updates from former guests from their shows came to mind first. I’m sure most of us would appreciate an update of their wonderful guests. I also think Narconon, including its legal and moral issues, could/should be a topic of discussion. Also different branches of companies attached to benefit and support co$ financially; for example,, ABC mouse, cchr, narcanon, etc. There’s so many more subjects to be of discussion. A podcast is a great idea.
Aquamarine says
“Betrayal After Trust – Getting The Truth Out There”
“Betrayal After Trust – Leah Remini & Mike Rinder Say Something Can Be Done About It”.
“After the Aftermath – Remini & Rinder”
“Betrayed After You Trusted” – Leah Remini & Mike Rinder Uncover Truths About Religious Rip-Offs.
“Ripped Off By Your Religion – Remini and Rinder After The Aftermath”.
None of these are good but what the hell, sometimes its helps to write stuff down and then you think of something decent later.
The title has to pack a punch.
Jennifer says
Yes to the podcast! Your work is so important and also happens to be scintillating. I would listen for sure! Thanks for staying up & for everything you have done to shine light on the truth.
Haley G says
I think a podcast would be a great idea. I don’t always have time to watch the show, so i could definitely listen to the podcast while working out or driving to work. Thank you all for shining the light on a very important issue. You are saving lives. As someone born into a similar cult, i can say most people involved typically do not know any different, it’s just how they are raised. Sadly many people will never get out of it. Thank you Mike and Leah for all you are doing.
Cathy says
Great idea! I’d like to know what happens to the SO members as they age and get sick. I was hoping there’d be stories on that on the show.
Shawn says
What are the coordinating policies and courses that are designed to lure the new members, then snare them into such absolute belief and willingness to break laws for the defense/offense of Sci?
Murmur says
Obviously that idea is a huge hit Mike.
Personally I’d like to hear about how old or elderly Sea Org members and families are treated in comparison to other religion’s treatment of their “ministers” like:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-02-08-ga-1121-story.html
Or
https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20110512/rowland-heights-neighborhood-of-retired-ministers-to-celebrate-100-years
Unfortunately there is no such thing as retirement in Scientology
Preacher1138 says
Mike,
You and Leah should definitely do a podcast, the sooner the better. Would love for you both to cover the “Duke of Chug” and also examine how much of Scientology already was in Hubbard’s early Science Fiction. Also go in depth on Hubbard’s Data Series and why it sucks!
Author Susie TenEyck says
From Warehouses to Wilderness, there is billions of money in imprisoning teens for profit. I know thousands of children willing to come forward and tell their story of survival and abuse. See my Award-Winning book about how this all began on my website. The book is called ABANDONED. We want you to share purchase story of how 100,000 children in the USA were tortured. Contact me.
Author Susie TenEyck says
Idea for show: from warehouses to wilderness. The multimillion-dollar industry of imprisoning teens for profit. Ask me more on my website as I have an award-winning book detailing how it all began. http://www.specialneedspublications.com
We have thousands of survivors who would love to tell their story on your show. Contact me
April says
I think a podcast would reach a lot of the younger folks. My children and their friends (ages 25-31) do not watch documentary series on tv, but listen to podcasts all the time. I would like to hear more about the moment when a former scientologist realizes they need to leave. What is their “wake up” call so to speak.
Rebecca says
Please do a podcast. And talk about the children born into cults and left that.
ClearOffLRH says
That would be most welcome.
How about, Remini, Rinder Ruminate.
Instances of ex members being asked to go against the law or normal social morals and decency to further the churches aims.
Any other evidence of just treating people so badly and the cost to those people of that.
Steph says
I’d totally listen. I’ve loved the Catch and Kill podcast and many others uncovering injustice. Good bathtub and gardening listens!!
Vanessa Jordan says
I would love the insight the both of you could give to how the pandemic is being handled by the “church”. And what the aftermath will look like.
Aquamarine says
A podcast is a great idea, Mike. I’d have to give some thought before offering up suggestions for titles, but a theme I know I’d love for you and Leah to address would be the criminal practice by the cult of their unauthorized usages of Still Ins’ credit cards. Donations made on Still Ins’ credit cards without their knowledge or consent. This theme could also include the cult calling the credit card companies to have the Still Ins’ credit lines increased. I think this theme would get a lot of attention and traction. Of course it might not be feasible. I can see that it might be dicey and complicated, to tackle this. But if it would be possible I think a program like this would create a powerful effect.
PeaceMaker says
Sounds great. From my perspective, just please do it like the show, with a limited number of highly relevant episodes. There are already more Scientology-related YouTube shows – many of them more chatty than informative, at least to me – than I have time to watch or listen to.
Nicole O. says
A podcast would be awesome!! I’d listen.
Overrun in California says
Yes absolutely! But stick to the subject of Scientology.
Davis Joanna says
Hi! YES!!! Would love a podcast with you guys! It would be a good way to revisit some past stories and expand on them!
Leah says
Yes! I would love to listen to this podcast!
Debann says
Leah, Yes…Yes…..YESSSSSS,
Please do, im a huge fan of you watched you on King of Queens for yrs and still do of reruns…No matter how many reruns I continue to watch their always still great…
Also your newest shows and again “YES”
I will definitely be there to join the two of you @Podcast, it’s an excellent idea….
Please let us all know when and am there….
Hope both of you are staying safe 😷
you and your families and Hope to be listening real soon to your Podcasts…👀😁
Blessings 💕🙏🛐🙏💕
Angel says
YES, Please do.
I’ll be there am definitely interested.
I been a mega-fan of yours Leah for yearrrs!
Can’t wait to get notification of when you start. It’s a brilliant idea especially with what’s happening in the world these past months, God it’s SO crazy and scary,
never would’ve believed something like this Covid-19 Virus would happen taking out so man all over the world 🌎…
Blessings to you both and families.🛐
🙏💕❤️💕🙏
I’ll be watching for notification of your Podcast…
ThankYou – Much Love 💕♥️💕
Kate says
Yes! I’m just watching this for the first time and it is mind blowing! I’d love to keep hearing about it.
Becky Lasita says
I’m saying this as calm as possible. I’m literally biting my nails bc this is what I’ve been dreaming for and it may be coming true!! Look at these comments!!!! Need I say more?? This is universe shit. Do it!!! We need to know the ….THEY need to know the fight is still on and we the people will not give up on you guys!! All love 💕
Jana Stloukalová says
Always thought Merchants Of Chaos would be a kickass name for a band… it could work for a podcast too 😂 As a foreigner I’d appreciate hearing about scientology activities outside the US.
Vicki Veasey says
Yes me too. Am interested in the scientology in the UK. At one point the hq /hub and yet members are very small nowadays
Marti Carlson says
There are a myriad of things that would be great to cover. What immediately came to my mind was a podcast that hats someone on what to do before, during and after making an escape and specific info of the resources available to them, e.g. Aftermath Foundation. This could then be shared.
Cindy says
A name for the Podcast could be
“Light on Darkness” or “A Light In the Dark”
Briget says
This is an OUTSTANDING idea! And add me to the list of people who think a podcast is just the thing needed right now!
Rita says
YES. Cover anything’s you want.
Angry Gay Pope says
If you need help in LA with Leah’s camera setups or internet connection/tech stuff etc. let me know. I am a computer dr. for 25 years and disney animator.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Yes. AGP produced my 2 videos with Karen and I thought they were pretty good.
Maria says
I want to hear it all! From Pandemic to the celebrities that are still involved in this cult after showing what the both of you have exposed. Have any of them reached out and said…”I want out!”??
Jessica Bertram says
Please do a podcast! I would listen to ANYTHING the two of you have to say. I have so much respect for the sh*t you both have put up with trying to help others get out and share their stories!
Susan Kennedy says
I would love to see you two do a podcast ongoing series. In addition to doing stories on Scientology sometimes, you can examine other cult organizations like you began to do with the JWs. The overall framework for creating enough ongoing content should be broader than Scientology.
The question that people never stop asking is why anyone joins or stays in these abusive organizations. Of course, that is the billion dollar question. You could use that question as your framework for ongoing content. I happen to believe that people who voted for the current president act like they are in a cult – the facts mean nothing to them sometimes and they are devoted to their “dear leader” just like people in cults. What makes human being act this way in general? Why do people stay in all kinds of abusive organizations and what are the ways in which we can all be manipulated to support these organizations?
I don’t have any great idea for a name but I do feel like this broader yet apt framework would afford you a lot of content ideas for the podcast series.
You have done such excellent work. Bravo.
Danielle says
I would like to hear how the children function as adults after being taught scientology way then realize its all BS and have to go on with their lives with their own families. Leah i think you are an example. How do you function after basically neglect, abuse, brain washing and how are you teaching your daughter that some ppl aren’t quite right in the head in this world and how to notice the sign so she doesn’t make the same mistakes. I feel so bad for you and the others. It mustve really taken its toll. You are so brave to actually open your heart and speak on such a controversial topic.
jessica freels says
Oh.. how about the name “REMINDER”
Or “ReMinded”
Laura says
Please!! It would be great!! 😁
Jessica says
Oh my god, so you even have to ask? Of course we want you to do a podcast.
I would do several things..
Education for those who leave and have to rebuild their lives?
But the education system in general
Gun violence in America verses places like Australia and NZ?
Clearwater in general.. city council and all the corruption?
Deborah Hayes says
I live in Clearwater and own 3 businesses. I am concerned about how the Scientologist “run”our government and prevent downtown from thriving. I would like you to uncover more regarding this topic.
Smersh Mersh says
Yes
Yes, do a podcast. You specifically Mike can do a in depth series on how the GO and subsequently OSA operated and operates. This will include your explaining your hatting as OSA head, how you executed specific OSA policies, including criminal and subversive activities, giving examples of Ops and Programmes, critical changes made post-Snow White within OSA, your views on OSA policy and practice post exiting Organized scientology, etc. For bonus Karma points, detail your ops against Gerry Armstrong.
L. Ron Dotard says
I am very interested in the differences between the organizational structure on paper as opposed to in practice and the labyrinthine world of the various shell corporations and the actual hierarchy of the organization.
Karakorum says
A podcast would be great,
It would be amazing if Mike could tell us something about how OSA operations looked from his perspective. What were the challenges, any weird of funny stories you might have had. Tips on how to avoid current OSA invigilation are always welcome.
On a personal note, I wouldn’t mind if you could tell me how OSA saw working with Int ethics and continental ethics. Did you work with Julia Delderfield, or was she in the hole with you at the time?
Loosing My Religion says
Mike and Leah it is really exciting to see the participation and enthusiasm of all these beautiful people.
It would be fantastic to do Aftermath conventions around the world and maybe help people who have family members involved in the cults.
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
Absolutely. I would go to an Aftermath Convention anywhere in the U.S.
LoosingMyReligion says
Yes it would be great. As well if they come to Europe or Italy. I imagine the theater coming down when Leah and Mike come on stage. Current restriction would make it happen a bit later in time. But we stay positive.
Rachael says
Yes, please!!! I’ve found the tone of most cult podcasts is off because the hosts don’t really know what they’re talking about. Your tone would be spot on since you lived it – just like your show! I’m not sure of specifics beyond that, but the world needs your voices! Thank you for all the work you’ve both already done. It’s priceless!
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
I would love to participate in a podcast, especially one put on by you two. I would also be happy to assist in any way I can.
Jodie says
Great idea!! I’d be tuning 100%
Sarb Sandhu says
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes YES YES YES! ! !! ! ! ! ! PLEASE!
Lisa says
Yes, please! I have been wearing out Jeffrey Augustine’s podcast, and just subscribed to Chris Shelton’s but am hungry for more content from “bitter apostates” like you;). Would love to hear the status of the church now that so many have come out against it. Is anything happening with the tax exempt status? Why did Marty R. flip? How have people “deprogrammed” after leaving? So many questions! You all are a great team and it would be fantastic “radio.”
Lauren Mac says
Yes for sure.
Rosemarie says
I think it’s the Mike and Leah Ex Scn Show. There are a lot of great ideas above. I might add if you read the comments on Tony Ortega’s blog every day there are some great ideas there to expand upon. I would listen! Love the idea 💪🙏❤️
Joanne Scara says
Yes for sure!
Tony says
I would love to know how scientology deals with a pandemic!
Old Surfer Dude says
They panic!
Amanda says
Yes please! A podcast would even better than a tv show because you wouldn’t have to cram content into 1 hour episodes and you could continue making them instead of having to stop at 12 per season. I felt what wasn’t covered was guilt people feel after leaving about the things they did and said to people and the difference in their lives after they woke up. Like more explanation on cult members disconnecting and being cold but then waking up and turning human again? Who is to blame and stop in regards to the cult? One guy created it and then others followed? Is he evil? Are they evil? How did Leah’s marriage survive leaving but yours didn’t? Do people get back together years after one woke up and one didn’t straight away but did years later? If no one is having fun or enjoying Scientology why are they still doing it? Steven Fisher is an interesting case, he wrote a crazy book. Andy Nolch in Australia is another crazy free zone Scientologist who is interesting to watch. We’re they crazy before or just during? Marty Rathburn? Where is he? What’s up with him? Did he get paid out? Grant Cardone update. Bryan Culkin- same question! Apparently David made you guys make him a fake Emmy and present it to him after he did his last interview on tv because the presenter who was interviewing him got one?
ISNOINews says
O/T. Minister Louis Farrakhan instructs members of the Nation of Islam to continue the practice of social distancing no matter what governors are saying in their attempt to loosen redtrictions to open up the economy.
https://facebook.com/groups/677083492390671?view=permalink&id=2741955092570157
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ISNOINews says
Official tweet by the Nation of Islam:
https://twitter.com/OfficialNOI/status/1253363779397705729
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Nicholas Evans says
Good idea doing a podcast. There seems to be plenty about how scary and manipulative Scientologists are. The thing I want more of is people who have successfully left the cult, like yourselves. Good news from people who are combating Scientologists. Stories from countries where Scientology is banned or at least doesn’t have tax exempt status. There must be people from those countries who are able to speak knowledgeably about how they have fought Scientology.
Christa Johnson says
YES, DEFINITELY!!! I would love to hear an update on what’s been happening!
My parents have a million cable channels and as I was scrolling I stumbled across the Scientology channel. It is LAUGH OUT LOUD funny how terrible it is!! The whole thing looks like a spoof on SNL!
Anne Sullivan says
I’d like to hear about Mark Bunker and his election. I’d also LOVE to see some effort to organize a group in each city with a COS footprint to expose/interrupt their activities.These groups would also be great to use to communicate with the elected officials they try to buy and lobby them to withdraw support and interrupt that process as well.
Ashley says
Yes! Would be interested to hear what the policies/procedures would be for “paritioners”, especially those in the SeaOrg, regarding pandemic response.
Bruce Clark says
Yes!! So many topics not yet touched upon. Gang regging. Events with doors locked until the Sea Org had plundered the coorced throng.
Perhaps most egregious of all- auditing file folders, marked Priest Penitent Privileged taken by the GO to find material that can be used against the individual. The concept of Knowledge Reports to produce a snitch society. The 8 Dynamics but the 3rd dynamic taking precedence over all else in violation of the very datum itself. The Finance Police and people like Alex Siberski, Kerry Gleason, Neil Serfati coming around in jackboots like The Gestapo to plunder Missions and individuals to do their bidding. The top rates charged at Flag for accommodations for water dripping through your ceiling, missing light bulbs in hallways, carpets in hallways so old they piled up like waves on a stormy sea. The food fed to Sea Org staff. I went into a staff dining room at Flag once after they had been fed liver and lettuce and the smell was gagging.
Lots more where this came from.
At least one evening on Reg- Charmaine!
David Jones says
Definitely! I have watched every episode! Pod cast would be great. Please do it!
BillH says
I’ve never listened to a podcast in my life. I’m a podcast virgin. But, I’d listen to one of you guys! You’d even get to pop… Well, anyway, I miss the TV show so much I’d do anything to hear your voices again. So yes, do a podcast! Keep those Scientologists and others running scared!
Len Zinberg says
I’m a huge fan of podcasts, particularly those of the “intellectual dark web” variety, where folks like Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, Brett Weinstein, Mike Rowe and Jordan Peterson all have diverse and passionate views on a variety of subjects, yet manage to discuss them, in depth, eloquently, without rancor, with civility, humor, and even affection.
The “intellectual dark web” is an example of a healthy, functioning “marketplace of ideas; a marketplace in which, I hasten to add, SCIENTOLOGY IS WHOLLY INCAPABLE OF COMPETING because of its mandated duplicity and profound dishonesty.
If proof of this was needed, you could just contrast Leah’s appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience with Sylvia Stannard’s appearance in front of The Chatauqua Society. You could… if OSA had not removed Stannard’s nuclear footbullet from the Internet.
Anyway, hope you’ll forgive my somewhat off-topic rant…but
Yes! I think a podcast is a terriffic idea!
Michael Crosby says
I respect your diverse names for podcasts.
Yep, I’m in. Bring it on Mike.
Aeron says
Yes please! I miss you both and the work that you’re doing is so important whether you’ve been directly effected by scientology or not.
Karen Nesco says
I want to hear more. Watched all the shows. Live in Clearwater
Nathan says
OMG yessss!! Y’all need to come back! You did such an amazing thing exposing that horrid cult I’m sure that what ever y’all cover in the future would be awesome! Thank you BOTH for all the work and effort you put into the show – it was an amazing thing to see!! Love y’all ❤️❤️
Enturbulation Nation says
This is a great idea. Staying creative and adapting to our current circumstances is the right approach! With regards to content – it depends who you’re targeting… There are many topics that would interest Scientology (specific) critics, ex Scientologists, child rights advocates, etc., but there is one topic that grabs the attention of the aforementioned groups and those of the ‘Wog’ world alike… Fair Game. If you’re looking for enduring interest from never-in’s you could build a podcast on, this would be it. There’re so many stories that can be told from many different demographics spanning age, georaphic location, gender, ethnicity, and once-in vs. never-in status, you’d have quite a task selecting which stories to tell.
The other usual Scientology topics (of which there are many) are very important as well and can still be touched on, but I know most wogs’ interest will wane after a certain point. Sadly most people have a ‘if it doesn’t affect me I have limited interest’ mindset (albeit subconsciously). Hearing about something that reads like a Tom Clancy meets Stephen King novel and could easily affect your average Joe/Jane strikes an intimate nerve with most. It makes the fascinating world of Fair Game a very real Boogeyman for all.
Hearing people tell their (alleged) horrific experiences in their own words with color commentary by Leah, and analysis from Mike would make an excellent show dynamic. I’m sure you’ll have ways of legally vetting and fact checking guests (for verification of story).
As for the name of a show like this? “Name of the Game”, “Game Time”, etc.
Thanks for giving us an opportunity to sound off! Stay healthy.
Sonia says
Podcast – Yes.
While some are looking for new and fresh; don’t disagree, but you may just be tapping into a newer audience via Podcast. So I’m happy to hear some of the history again. That said – I’d like to see / hear similar stories of those who are trapped in Hasidim communities. Some recent documentaries are reminiscent of what has been presented for Scientology.
Deb says
I would love for you two to do a podcast. You two are very strong and good people!
I’m you number one fan!
Kary says
Honestly I just want to hear you both together again. I MISS YOU GUYS!!! STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY!!
Chris cloutier says
Try a subject that involved me.
I have paperwork generated inside the Church that was proper and exposed command intention that deviated from K.S.W.
I tried time put it back on the rails back in 1998 at A.S H.O.
I was orig G.A.T. product and diligently blasted R.T.C. reps to demand attention.
I received 5 common EV’s with no result.
I was placed off post and guarded 24 hours while brought to the top of hgb building and class 12 sec check butchering.
They refused to believe no one helped me with my knowledge.
They denounced my Flag training and said I never went there.
I was given my declare when I appeared to receive final pay.
I was not supposed to receive that and this would cripple the Midget.
Chris Cloutier
I have gold … Ready to share
Much paperwork routed by me with proper cc’ d posts.
I have originals and placed these in hco in boxes myself.
A.S.H.O.
The Church also convinced my new spouse to get divorced in fear that she would not progress, and be forced to move back to Russia.
After I gave up , and left, and divorced. She ( Irina Kanshina Cloutier) was placed at Flag and trained high.
I have no other details.
At least see what I did, and have.
A podcast is perfect to show…
I have no fear, as I only did 7_8,9 and 10 internally while placing That midget in treason.
Contact me…
Clutes007@yahoo.com
Anyone, but just remember I’ve been declared.. Lol
Joanna says
Yes yes and YES! Will listen.
Old Surfer Dude says
About what? We’re a little backwards back here.
Moop says
I would listen to the heck out of a podcast from you.
I’d love more COS content, of course, but like with Aftermath where you branched off into JW for an episode, maybe more general institutional abuse topics. Maybe with occasional interviews with survivors / escapees. You’ve done a fantastic job giving people a voice who otherwise might not have had one, so seeing that continue would be great.
Anonymous says
Yes please do! I would love to hear how people rebuild themselves and thrive post cult. Any cult, preferably non religious, there are a number of new age cults out there that needs serious attention. Also, would love to hear more on communal narcissism and the major NPD issue in relation to their co-dependents. That whole dynamic is why shit happens in the first place. I feel we need more awareness how this is relevant to “normal” good hearted people. Anyone could find themselves being stuck in that dynamic, if you’re not aware.
Brian says
Yes. A podcast is one of the most accessible ways to reach people, and you can record from home.
Lexi says
I’d like to understand how the Scientologists figure in to world politics right now – what entities are supportive of them or still turn a blind eye?
But pretty much, yes. Any media you two create I will more than likely consume it.
Thank you for sharing these realities, potentially at your peril.
Stay safe.
Lisa says
Yes please
Old Surfer Dude says
Gosh, you’re so polite.
Brian says
It’s gotta be fresh, unique, not a rehash of old stories. If it is not fresh and new it may be perceived as trying to squeeze out the success of Aftermath.
Here’s a thought:
Make it undercover expose where you send in undercover people to actually get beyond a doubt proof of the crimes of these cults.
Spies with camera ties and camera glasses. Recorded words of Scientology leaders, get someone close to DM with a wire.
You want to have success? Do that. It will air everywhere.
Wire up agents and find more credible whistle blowers.
And make it ENTERTAINING from start to finish.
Chris cloutier says
I did this and have gold.
Old Surfer Dude says
YOU ARE outstanding!
Chris Cloutier says
? Outstanding?
Scooter says
I’m with John P.. Love the idea if it included Visio of some sort. AND you could get the stories of peeps from afar (like Oz where many exes like me live) that otherwise would take a large amount of time and money to get.
Go for it I reckon. 🙂
Tom Ufer says
YES! I would like to hear your thoughts on the status of all of the lawsuits that are pending. What you think about Mark Bunker and Frank Hibbard being voted into office in Clearwater. How you may think Scientology feels about the past elections.
Tor Steinheim says
Please please please do a podcast!!
And please interview the Reckless Ben youtube guys in one episode!
Hannah Jones says
My friend and I watched all of your Scientology Aftermath programmes from Wales and we both would love the idea of a podcast with you both!
As someone who knew very little about Scientology it was a great education and think simply telling people’s stories of how around the cult is a great way to keep spreading support and awareness!
Keep up your great work!
Peter Blood says
Great idea Mike to keep the Anti-$cientology movement moving and keep it current as well as much less expensive to produce. How about “THE AFTERMATH CULTCAST” or “LEAH & MIKE’S CULTCAST” or “REMINI & RINDER’S CULTCAST”?
I do think the name requires some branding references so that the name will make people think of you & Leah and make it easy to search for. Pretty obvious.
Delaney G says
Yes, would love for you guys to do a podcast! The work you guys have done and continue to do has impacted so many. Would love to hear some updates of people from the show and also updates/more info on the tax exemption status of the church.
NaviThanator says
Yes the podcast is a great idea!
Trump, Musk, Carlson, Glenn Beck currently support the charlatan and bitcoin investor Gregory Rigano and their medication tip Chloroquine against #COVID19. So a very important question at the moment is: is there a connection to scientology and who is Q? I would also be interested to know: is Scientology a church, a cult or rather a technique or possibly even a game, the first MMLARP? “It’s a massively-multiplayer live-action role playing game, with players all over the planet contributing to the world of the game.” https://medium.com/@gregkarber/scientology-is-a-game-872a0214d7a9
Ida says
YES please start a podcast! Talk about any oppressive religion, I thought your episode on the Jehovah’s witness was an amazing addition to all of your Scientology coverage (which was also incredible). Give a voice to those who are brave enough to defy these harmful organizations!
Elizabeth R Ragsdale says
Aftermath – Booming 10x Freedom
Aftermath – The Ideal Podcast
Aftermath – The Bridge to Reality
Aftermath – Exposing the Truth
Something like that, anyway. Hell yes I’d listen – go for it!
Jennifer says
Yes please! I have missed hearing from you both since you went off air. How about calling it The Aftermath Podcast 😊
Lily says
Please make this podcast!!! I have watched the series multiple times now and make everyone close to me watch it, your message is so important and needs to be continued! I’d love an episode that maybe goes deeper into the way the LGBT community is treated in Scientology, maybe with insight from an LGBT ex-Scientologist? I also noticed you didn’t talk much about the Xenu stuff too much in the show so maybe more of that? I would listen eagerly to anything from the two of you though 🙂 thank you for doing what you do!
Formost says
Xenu identifies as non-binary.
Debra says
Yes! I would love it!
Michelle says
Yes, Please do a Podcast!!
Cathy says
Yes, there is so much more that needs to be exposed! Please come back soon.
Kyle says
It hasn’t been the same since Aftermath went off the air! Please do a podcast!
Badafuco says
Yes! Please! I can only take so much Joe Rogan.
You would have a huge audience and subscribers. This is what the world 🌎 needs. Please make this happen. Even if you go the Patreon route, I will support you two.
Ready… Start!
Elissa Genova says
YES!!! Interested in how many new members join after these investigations have come to the forefront. I’m also interested in survivor stories, but also maybe expand on other organizations with cult like behaviors, how they manipulate and the long lasting affects of them afterwards.
Gayle says
Yes absolutely!
V Vendetta says
I, too, think a podcast is a great idea and the wide range of suggestions offered shows the passion we have for both your and Leah’s dedicated work in exposing the criminal cruelty that is the epitome of Co$.
I’ll add my own area of interest:
An inside expose’ of how OSA monitors all online media comments/criticism, both from ex-sci and never-in alike, and whenever possible, unleashes their legal vipers upon hapless victims. Let’s just say, my interest comes from experiencing the Co$ terrorist machinery firsthand, not intimidated, as OSA would wish, but rather my ardor against Co$ was rekindled by a quantum measure to new heights.
Heartfelt thanks for all you do on behalf of truth and justice!
John Testor says
Yes! Yes! Yes! Please!!!!!!
Old Surfer Dude says
What? You want me to get you a glass of water?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
A glass of water?
That triggered a memory from the Freewinds. Around the year 2000 a major change came in how ships and crews are certified and allowed to operate. A Captain from this organization came aboard to inspect the ship and crew. Captain Napier was there when she asked me if I ever drank alcohol on board. I said “Yes”, and Capt Napier glared at me. I said ” Only when not on duty”. I have drank alcohol with Capt Napier at the bosun’s party.
Blanco_D says
I’d like to see an interview with Dennis Erlich, Trey Lott, Dave Kluge, Judy Wilkerson and other members of the early LA O.rg scene. Unfortunately, we missed the opportunity with Bill Franks and Russ Meadows, RIP
Cindy says
Blanco, Does that mean that Dave Kluge is out of the church? Is this the same Dave Kluge who worked at Sterling Management Systems and wrote a book about the constitution?
Ashley says
Definitely Mark Bunker and his victory in Clearwater and whats next for him now that hes on the DDB! Updates on how much the Aftermath Foundation has helped ex scientologists. The “hole” and the people still there. How Covid 19 Crisis is or isnt being handled and what scientology isnt doing as far as humanitarian efforts
Alberto says
I would do an excellent VIP program. I think people want to know where they ended up after they left Scientology e.g. Lisa Mary, her mom, Miscavige’s brother, Debbie Cook (I think she was paid to shut up) etc.
Maybe you can interview them or they can participate … after all what do they fear?
Anonymous says
Yes please! I would love it! Please cover more about families stories. I could see y’all with a segment kind of like a true crime podcast. “Today’s family…xyz”😂
But YES!! Please do a podcast no matter how it’s done. My aunt is OT 8, who convinced my non-Scientology folks to send me to Delphian School at 14…I think more parents need to know how they could be placing their kids in a cult unknowingly. Could have saved us year of therapy.
Larissa says
I’d subscribe for sure!
ESR says
Yes! I’d enjoy success stories of folks who saw/heard about the TV series and were able to escape Scientology. Interviews with them would be powerful.
Zonker Harris says
I would love to hear this.
As for a title, how about Aftermath Online?
Carie says
I would love to hear a podcast. I don’t have access to your series anymore so I’ve been left hanging for a while now.
I believe all religions are cults and I’m always trying to wrap my head around the attraction. Theology, in general, interests me.
Anita says
Duh. Of course you should do a podcast. I can guarantee that I will be an enthusiastic subscriber and listener!
31O says
An international perspective on how Scientology has affected other countries and not just a US focus! That would be sooooo interesting!
Deb Hunt says
I will listen to all, I would love to know how some of the people are doing who have left, how they are navigating the “new world” I know this is a long process not just and OUT and Good thing
Also to keep talking about all the different “cults” that are around tapping into belief systems and slowly taking them away from anything but the “cult”
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
My vote for s name would ne’ The Aftermath of the Aftermath”.
Sherry says
Please do a Podcast!!! I live close to Hemet compound- I want updates on Savage-Miscaviage, his ghost wife, Stars still in. Interview more escapees. Maybe off camera more would sit and share. Please, please continue your good works!!
Melissa Yetter says
YES PLEASE!!!
I have certainly missed the Aftermath. I’m in Clearwater several times a year and I always want to save the scientologists I see going from building to building!!! I do park and just watch them in astonishment.. I feel like I really missed something when you stopped the show- what happened? What stopped the show? Is there a trial for that young blonde girl? I think she escaped in trunk of car?
I like the comments here- all the good ideas.
Keep aftermath in the name.
Andreas Heldal-Lund says
That would be very cool! I don’t have access to your series, have only seen small parts. 🙁 Would love to listen to your podcast! Two thumbs up from Norway.
Be smart and stay safe.
Jen L says
I would like to know more about the treatment of children in Scientology. I was born and raised in Clearwater. I heard stories of the kids who wouldn’t change their underwear because all clothing went in one big wash and they didn’t want to wear someone else’s underwear. As an adult I wonder if the kids are even allowed to go to school? Do they only attend Delphi Academy because it is operated by Scientology?
Corinne Dekker says
Yes! Since the show ended I’ve been curious about different top members that are still the cult. I’m really curious about others who have recently left as well. Podcast would be so great!
Amy B says
What are you waiting for? Seriously, please do this. I can’t wait to listen!
Loosing My Religion says
I think it may be a great idea. During this pandemic period I saw that the use of the podcast has gone up. It is typically downloadable and therefore remains available.
A point that I think can be very useful are also some advices or testimonials on what to do if a family member wants to join, for example, a weird cult or even the sea org. Practical things to know and do. Maybe I have some ideas if it interests and needs to broaden the discussion. I think that such thing it can be useful to many.
Skyler says
There are a few issues that would seem to deserve a great deal of attention. They are:
1 Tax Exempt Status
2 Shelley M – where is she? what are her living conditions? Is she isolated from human contact? If so, that is a clear form of harsh and unusual punishment.
3 People in the Hole – many of us feel a tremendous need to hear from them. It is an abuse of human rights to lock these people away with no human contact.
There are undoubtedly more primary issues left to resolve.
As for the name. The name of the first show stressed the word, “Aftermath”.
One possible way to name the podcasts is to refer to something like, “Outstanding Issues” or “What remains to be done?”
Maybe the primary focus should be on the scam. Or maybe the primary focus could be “cults” in general.
Perhaps a name could refer to something like, “Cults in a Free Land – The Remaining Issues”
Or “Cults in America – What remains to be done”
Or something along those lines?
It is noon on the East Coast now. But that is first thing in the morning for me. Maybe I will have some clearer thoughts later on.
But my best wishes and I wish the best of luck to you for your podcasts. Please be sure to put them somewhere where people who are sleeping when you do them live can access them later? Thank you.
Rose says
Hi Mike,
First of all, kudos to all the work you have been and still are doing to disclose Scientology and other cults. 👍
I have a question: do you know how Scientologists and especially Sea Org members are doing/coping during the COVID19 crisis?
Thanks a lot!
Skyler says
I’ve recently been reading some of the “TED Talks”. Many people there make the point that human beings are “wired” to act sociably in groups. I am paraphrasing here but their basic idea is that people need regular contact with other people – almost as much as they need food and water.
If true, it is a horrible human rights abuse to lock someone away from all human contact for years at a time without allowing anyone to visit them or anyone to meet and talk with them.
Kathy says
Would love you guys to do a podcast! Talk about anything you are working on or passionate about!
Dana Barry says
I would love to see you guys keep on exposing Scientology, but also investigating and exposing other cults like the special you did on Jehovah’s Witnesses. It was interesting to hear the differences and similarities between Scientologists and Jehovah’s Witnesses and I think it would be just as interesting to hear about other cults and how they compare to Scientology.
Spencer's Revenge says
What a great idea. Please – put “Scientology” in the name.
What about….
“What Is Scientology – TRUTH REVEALED”
You must make sure people know your show is about Scientology.
What about getting Joe Rogan to help. He could do the interviewing of you and Leah and the aftermath of ex Scientology victims whose lives have been destroyed by this insidious cult. I love Joe. He has a great following and did a wonderful interview with Leah.
christianlady says
I would love for you to highlight scams out there. Ways people are being bilked of $$ and of their loyalty. Exposing some maybe famous scammers as well in entertainment.
Christina says
Yes!! I think having a podcast would be great. Because of your show it gave me the courage to get out of the cult I was in. I wasn’t in Scientology, I was in a different organization. I would like to see y’all venture out and shed light on other cults. Perhaps your podcast could be an outlet for other people to share their experiences. I was part of the G12 movement for 6 years, their is so much about this “church” that people are unaware of, and it’s happening under our noses. Maybe an opportunity to think about.
wrigs says
I think you should cover some of the methods and schemes they have at getting ordinary people hooked. Things like the Dianetics extension course package and other “cheap” ways to “practice” Scientology. Something else would be to talk about peoples experiences with the constant phone calls, emails, text messages and letters.
Some updates from Mark Bunker might be good too. I’m not sure if that will endanger his current position with the Downtown Development Board. If it doesn’t though that’d be pretty interesting to hear from him!
Chris B. says
YES, THAT’S A GREAT IDEA!!!!!
SLJ says
Well podcasts are good. Would rather see your faces. Have you thought about an Instagram live? I am sure it has been mentioned, but if it hasnt…
Give it some thought. There is no wrong answer.
J. E. Stark says
I loved The Aftermath, and your compassion and care for people who have both escaped and those still in the clutches of Scientology. Perhaps call the podcast After the Aftermath?
Also, I would love to see you do an expose on the trend of ‘quiver-full’ families, who are fundamentalist Christian (mostly) families with very many children often growing up in a very sheltered, cultish environment, often homeschooling to keep them even more isolated from the rest of the world. Those likemmyself who have grown up in such families often face extreme and even torturous disciplinary measures, disconnection from the family for expressing skepticism or dissent, and end up as adults with either extreme dependency issues and/or are completely unprepared for adulthood and the real world. Feel free to contact me via email if you would like more information.
Lindsay Spence says
A great idea. I would love to see an episode about David Miscavige’s extended family and who is, or isn’t, still in Scientology. It seems that most of his family has left but it would nice to see if all summarized in one episode, similar to the epidose you did about L Ron Hubbard’s family.
Alan Arnold says
UMMMMMM Yes please, think this is a great idea
Dana Barry says
That’s a good idea!
Karl Piepenburg says
This likely has been covered earlier, but did you see any benefit from dianetics? Is there any possibility scientology, in the future, could throw out its controlling cult practices and money grubbing and become sort of a sincere self help group charging relatively nominal fees for courses offering feel good self help? Something like Silva Life Systems?
Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass says
In my humble opinion the technology of Scientology can be beneficial. The Tech saved my life and later the organization killed me.
Kiki says
Yes! A podcast! Are there different levels of celebrity and is each level treated differently? How come Leah wasn’t revered like other celebrities when she became famous? Why was she singled out and treated so badly? Mike can you go further into the treatment of the IRS that made the then commissioner fold and give in? Would any of those agents be willing to discuss what happened to them so that the public understands what Scientology did to the individual people. Can you catch up with those two young men who have infiltrated and posted hidden camera footage? Are they alright or are they being fair gamed?
Believe or Else says
Great idea to have a podcast! A few things come to mind. Please accept or reject suggestions as you see fit.
Name: May I suggest “The Aftermath Podcast” in order for search engines to direct viewers to your podcast? Computer search engines are rather literal beasts, so tying into the name of your podcast to the Aftermath TV show maximizes successful searches that will direct eyes to both products.
I would like to see camera and sound, along the lines of podcasts such as Chris Shelton or Ron Miscavage. Seeing your face and the faces of your guests on a split screen is must in this day and age of savvy media consumers. Obviously, some guests, such as a recently blown Sea Org member, may want to speak anonymously, and we understand that.
Subject material has been well covered in the comments above. I believe with a podcast interview, editorial or discussion, you can do an in depth look at a single aspect of Scientology each episode. I believe a podcast builds up a fair amount of velocity on a subject because there are no commercials and guests can be interviewed as long as necessary because there are no time constraints that are a necessary component of network television shows. And I believe this velocity impacts and sticks with the viewer long after the show has ended.
I find you have a calm and factual demeanor onscreen, and that style of presentation along with FACTS is what will keep the cult from suing and most importantly, educate folks as to what ACTUALLY occurs in the Church of Scientology to its staff and parishioners.
A sincere, educated viewpoint is needed to guide your podcast in a way that sparks reasoned discussion among individuals and lawmakers. This discussion of FACTS is what will put and end to the abuses.
Mike, you are the person who can facilitate change with your podcast.
I look forward to being able to donate a few bucks to fund your efforts to help.
Best of luck!
Doug Parent says
Absolutely!
Frank says says
The podcast should be why is Scientology still controlling the IRS & CRA? Why is Scientology still controlling municipal police stations? Why does Scientology control municipality like Clearwater with out the interference of high level government? Why is Scientology still allowed to have their propaganda in schools? Why is Narconon still allowed to operate? Why is Scientology still recognized as a religion? Why with so many people leaving the CULT and speaking out about Scientology why doesn’t any government or DA offices press charges or investigate? Why does Scientology still get away with all their bullshit? Why does Scientology still get away with disconnection? Why does Scientology still get away with protecting rapist & pedophiles?
George M White says
Great idea.
Personally I would like to hear about getting the information to the IRS in order to review and revoke the tax exemption for Scientology. I think it would be possible to get IRS agents to listen to a full series of podcasts. Part 1 – Scientology is not a religion Part 2 – Tax abuse – Taxpayers paying for worthless buildings Part 3 – Miscavige and greed.
Kaitlin says
Yes please do a podcast! I’d love to hear more in depth about the background of Scientology like what was covered in season 1 and hear more about how it affects families. I’m sure there are many stories you could address in more detail in the long form of a podcast that just don’t fit into a tv episode. But frankly I’d listen to anything you guys want to talk about! You could describe what it’s like to watch paint dry and I’d listen to it.
Balletlady says
Most religions have a “deity” of sorts that is prayed to, honored, respected…….the ONLY “deity” I can think of when there is talk or reference about COS is this: $$$$$$$
The use of what appears to be a cross with an “X’ through it….Well from what I know….”the cross” is normally considered “Christian” as Christ suffered & died on the Cross, yet there is NO reference to their belief system & a reference to Jesus….WHY use the Cross Symbol at all?
I could go on an on about what I’d like to hear…but that would be endless list of items. One point would be the “disappearance of Shelley Miscavige”…..also the “denial of the beatings & captivity in the hole”….or perhaps REFUSING TO LET PEOPLE LEAVE”….get the picture?
The Title for the Series: “BLOWING THE BUBBLE”…..or “AFTER THE AFTERMATH”……
Stay Well…Stay Strong…Never Forget…
Marie M. says
Yes yes please!!!! Don’t let up for a second! Be just as relentless on your mission for exposure and truth as they are on their victims!!!! I can’t believe the crap they are getting away with! I was enraged at times learning about how they are actually beating people, holding them hostage, the abuse of the children, the whole money situation is sickening. I can’t believe the law cannot step in. Sick sick sick!!!
Also, thank you for covering Jehovah’s Witnesses. That is the circus i grew up in. I left when I was 18; I’m now 38 and still battling the deep programming I was subjected to. If you ever cover that topic again I could share my story, a truly tough story involving the cover up of sexual abuse, mental abuse, and hypocrisy. Please continue to expose the cult for what it is! My mother is still in it and it’s really tough.
One of the most interesting topics you delved into was this new recruitment of the Muslim African American Community. More on that would be a great topic. Unbelievable what lengths these money grabbers will go to!
Hope I don’t start getting creepy hate mail from the enemy but I support you Leah! And Mike!
SUZANNE says
It would be the best idea of a podcast, and you can continue doing what you set out to do. We have a feeling that we were left hanging when your series stopped and we would love to continue the fight along with you ….still!!
Please, yes, a podcast would be worth the time and money (which it will be alot cheaper I am sure.
Essence says
What is missing from your other shows was, speaking about Jesus as written in the Bible. The corrections were never shared to the people living in that falsehood. We are in end days now and just telling these people that they are wrong or someone’s story coming away from that lifestyle; they need the truth about our Lord and Savior. There needs to be prayer and Scripture read. People watching this would also hear the Scripture spoken and accepting the true Christ, many can be saved. We are living right before the Rapture of the church into the clouds to Jesus, and people will be left and have to suffer through Tribulation. This might be any day. The One World Government is being set up for the antichrist during this Wuhan Virus; that is being used as a tool to socialize our Nation. Everyone equally poor and looking for the answer. There are people who watched your show that are God deniers and used it as a false proof to vindicate them. I would love to see new shows about this but people need to hear about our Savior and this would be the perfect time for the Holy Spirit to work through you two, since almost everyone is home heartbroken, distressed and contemplating suicide. Yes the Country will get rolling again but very slowly. Demon-KKK-Rats threw the monkey wrench in. Many wont get back to work as fast. God bless you both.
Mosqvich says
How does this answer Mike’s question?
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m an atheist. We have more fun!
Nicole O. says
Yeah we do!! 😀
Aquamarine says
“We are in end days now…Demon-KKK-Rats threw the monkey wrench in.”
Yo Essence,
You’re off-topic.
Are things a little slow over at Breitbart?
Do you live in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama or Florida?
If so, I suggest that instead of posting here, you go and do something “essential”.
Like, get a manicure, or a facial.
Get a haircut, go to the gym, take in a movie.
Get a tattoo.
Then you can finish off the evening by going to a pro-wrestling match.
During these end days why not contribute to your economy by availing yourself of an essential service.
God, Jesus Christ, your governor and your president will heartily approve.
Much love,
Aqua
hayley says
– do celebreties act differently in scientology social gatherings? and when in “regular” events or meetings does the nature and charicteristics change? if so, how? are they aware they are even doing it?
– i would also like to ask about recent criminal behaviour from higher ups in the church, when they go out of their way to break the law how far do they go? do they still do it often?
-one last thing… how much of clearwater does scientology own.. i saw a reddit post saying “They own about half of the downtown of this city and lobby the mayor to do all of their sh*t. It’s gotten so out of hand”
Benjamin says
I would subscribe to that podcast!
It could evolve as it progresses because I’ve listen to some great podcasts that began with two people and a microphone. Over time through emails, voice messages and random guests they grew into a final format. That’s the beauty of podcasting.
I would love your podcast to expose the commissions of Scientology. So many people (some still in!) just don’t realize who’s benefiting and how commissions work.
Glenn says
I agree with Haley. Exposure of past and present criminal acts committed by the cult would be jaw dropping and quite eye opening. AND, maybe our government might take action. Fingers crossed.
hayley says
i dont know what they can do about it but the government can not shut down a “church” and scientology has a looot of money. im just thankful they dont have the amount of support that they claim they have and that the organisation is a lot smaller nowadays. but hopefully some things can be done to an extent
Miss Dutch says
Great idea! And I’m sure Leah would love skipping the 2 (or is it 3?) hour makeup sessions. Unless, of course, it’s a video podcast on YouTube.
Jaye says
Hi Mike,
What a great idea! You and Leah can control content and those of us who are hungry for your input about these issues can continue to listen! I’d be interested in followups about $ci’s trying to take hold and their successes and failures, like in the Nation of Islam, how they successfully took over the Clearwater DDB but how they failed to stop (our beloved) Mark Bunker from being elected to City Council and being appointed as an ex officio member of DDB. I’d also be interested in the international scene: where are they spending time trying to take hold. I’d also be interested in you doing more of what y’all have been so great at: giving survivors of institutional abuse a platform to be heard. Lastly, it would be good to hear you branch out into other places of institutional abuse, maybe religious ones but maybe also other areas: I don’t know where but maybe unsafe or abusive working conditions or nonprofits that emotionally abuse volunteers. Shed light on institutional abuse and how it affects individuals.
Dan says
Interviewing ex Scientologist is great but it would be really awesome if you interviewed people that have recently left and get an idea of what is currently going on in there. Empty course rooms and academies? Etc.
Joey says
Podcast is a must!
Vinay Agarwala says
I would like to ask, “What mental health really is, and what it is not? What should people do to become mentally healthy?”
Laurie says
Yes please!!! Without a doubt YES. Sooner vs later please! I am a new (big) fan of podcasts and would love to listen to the two of you.
Would love an update on what law enforcement is doing on a broader scale re: the tax issues and alleged hardships and abuses to members. Is our federal government involved at all? Also an update on Clearwater with all of the recent changes. And ditto to all other questions people have posted here. I am still just baffled how the big stars are so hands off/play oblivious to all of the situations you have documented on your show.
Amanda says
I would love a podcast! I have so many questions in regard to how the lives of celebs in Scientology differ from the other people’s lives in it. Like how are celebs brought in, what is that approach like and do they know all the things that are really going on? It blows my mind that so many are in it and seem to turn the other cheek and I wonder why that is.
Barbara Scott says
Yes! My kids, twenty-somethings, and their friends LOVE podcasts, and they are always looking for new ones to listen to and share.
We loved your informative series about Scientology. Exposing it has been a long time coming. Thank you so much for your courage to speak the truth about it.
I think spotlighting the victims and their abusers is crucial to set them free and to help them rebuild their lives.
Focus on who is leaving the church, why, how they came to their senses, and how they are being tormented and by whom. Discussing and showcasing real victims in real time to set them free from their bullies.
Exposing the abusive tactics of the cult would be helpful to set the victims free from their relentless abusers. Turn the tables on the abusers. Call them by name. Give them a taste of their own medicine while setting the captives free.
This will help the victims rebuild their lives and credibility as Scientology attempts to destroy them. You have the power to expose and discredit the cult’s evil ways.
Cheering you on!
Barbara
Christin Lavargna says
I definitely need this podcast to happen. I want to know if there are people who were not willing to go on camera, but will be willing to lend their voice, even if obscured, to find out more about where is Shelly. Easier to follow someone getting interviewed than it is a phone call. Someone has to know. What is the status of Scientology membership since the airing of the show, has membership gone down? Has it become harder for current members? Has it been harder for them to convince people who have been enlightened to join a cult? How close have you gotten to getting their church status taken away? These are just off the top of my head and some may be harder to answer than others. But whatever light that can continue to be shed I am all ears. Love you and Leah! What a Great Team!!
Maya says
Would love for this to happen.
My question topic: Since leaving, what is the “new normal” that you have found and love the most?
Damon says
Please please please!
Rosemary says
It would be amazing. You have helped so many, like me, who has recovered from a more main stream religion but still is much better off. All organized religion is suspect. Created by men to oppress and control. Life should be so much more.
Jhawk says
Brilliant idea… I would love to hear a conversation between you, Leah and Jamie DeWolf .
Mouse Boudicca says
Id be interested in how Scientology is handling covid and what the fallout might be if anyone at top level suffered/died from it? Surely proves inability to control disease? A podcast would be brilliant.
Caleb says
YES YES YES! Please do a podcast!! I’ve missed y’all since the show ended! You are doing such important work and the word is spreading.
Mary says
You do excellent work. I would definitely subscribe. Please consider the Jehovah Witness issues.
JP says
Would love to hear more about the inner workings of Scientology. What is their endgame? What are they doing or planning? Is this purely a money grab? How have they infiltrated government at all levels.
Debbie says
Yes! We need to keep hearing from you both!
Kristine Baruzzi says
OMG..The dynamic duo with a podcast? Would be incredible. The more you expose to the light of day the better! You could have guests who are former members of cults in general. I live in the Albany NY area where the NXIVM was uncovered. Amazing..less than 5 miles away such evil and abusive practices. Your podcast could be very educational and serious..but also Leah’s badass attitude could kick it up a notch! Hope this happens! Hope you and your families are healthy and safe in the craziness that is real life these days. God Bless.
Cindy says
I love hearing stories from people recently out who have left the church. And if there are any Aftermath Foundation stories I love hearing how they got out, found the Foundation, how they got the money, how the money helped them and where they are in their lives now. This is good stuff to keep showcasing among other things.
Deirdre says
I have a degree in Religious Studies and fought with a professor who said that “cults were a negative connotation from people outside of a religious movement.” I completely disagreed with him and he encouraged me to write my term paper on the issue. My paper must have been ok, because he changed his mind on cults.
I think it’s really important that outsiders understand the intellectual battle a person trying to leave a cult deals with, instead of simply saying their stupid, gullible, etc.
With that said, if you’re willing to share, I’d like to hear more about your personal experiences with cognitive dissonance when you started to realize you were in a cult. What caused it? How did you feel? How did you react at the moment? Did you share your concerns or did you keep it quiet? I know you have both shared instances, but if you could break down a particular moment, that would be great! Thanks so much!
pluvo says
Deirdre, this video could be of interest for you.
This interview shows the mental struggle of a Scientologist trying to get some answers, how he gets mistreated and threatened and badgered to disconnect from his girlfriend.
The mental agony till he manages to mentally break free from the mind-fu@k in the very last moment is perceptible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4suHpwbjk
(Maybe you should show it to your professor too)
Deirdre says
I would share it with my prof, but it’s been over 20 years since I wrote that paper! 😂 Thanks for the link, I’ll definitely check it out!
Cindy says
YES……Definitely!!! Would love it!
Paula says
Absolutely 110% please do a podcast! I love them and it would be great for y’all to continue to put pressure on that damn cult. I’d love to hear stories from people that have reached out to you though the foundation and maybe explore more of what is currently happening. Again, please,please and please do it! Love you guys both, plus it gives Leah an unedited outlet to be her spunky self.
Sam says
Hell yes to a podcast. I’d listen to you both y’all about whatever you want.
Brandon says
Yesssss please do this! I miss hearing from you guys so much! This is much needed for all of us. Do it please!
As for ideas…I think a mix of serious topics and also some lighthearted feel good inspirational stuff too would be great. You and Leah’s energy together is amazing, and I’d love to hear you guys together again.
Diana says
I would definitely listen to your podcast. I’m interested to learn at what stage you’re in currently in the fight against Scientology. I would also love to hear more stories of people who have left.
Leonard Tran says
Great idea.
Jfw says
Yes please!!! Sharing experiences both past and present is so powerful for both parties!
Bridgette Ann Blumenthal says
Yes, I would be interested. Everyone is doing these and many if not most are not worth the time.
Catherine says
Absolutely YES! The tv series was fascinating (and frightening), and I would love to hear follow-up on how your guests on the show are doing, what is happening in Clearwater, how they are dealing with COVID19, the spread of the cult, everything!
Amy says
I would love for you to possibly touch on the conspiracy theories around sex trafficking in Hollywood…if you have any thoughts on it. There’s so much crazy info out there right now, only god knows what is true. Is Adrenochrome a real thing? Are there really that many celebrities involved in this practice?
Tim says
Yes! Could you please dig deeper into or give your opinions on the Presley family and their stance with the “church”? I was in for 15 years because I got introduced to Scientology from Lisa Marie and Riley Keough. Lisa Marie’s last album very clearly was anti Scientology, but that’s all we know.
Meg says
Yes! Please do a podcast! Miss your show so much!
Would love to hear how things are going in Clearwater, if there are any court cases pending or recently decided upon. Would love to hear from recent escapees.
Looking at other cults is always interesting too.
Would also love to know more about famous/rich/business owned scientologists so I can avoid them like the plague that they are! I know ABC Mouse is one but are there more!?!
John says
Definitely
Lori Holloway says
I can’t find a place to comment. Mike requested comments go to his blog, not his FB post. Sorry to burden you, just looking for help. Don’t let me inconvenience you…
Lori
mwesten says
A chat with Derren Brown or Sam Harris (on conditioning, manipulation, the placebo effect, social compliance, etc) would be particularly awesome.
Kwana Nicholas says
I would definitely listen to your Podcast. This is such important work. I never knew Scientology wasn’t a religion but a cult until you did your series. Things I’d like to hear more about and would even volunteer in some way if I could since I’m near D.C. is what is being done or initiatives as far as legislature and what can a possible grass roots organization bring forth to create legislation and laws in regards to in particular minors but also all victims of Scientology and other cults. I sit here just thinking about all the people that are stuck in horrible situations and we that are free could really fight for them. I’d like to hear more about that. Miss you both and the show!
Zac says
I would absolutely love it if you guys did this! Please! 🙏🏼
Lori says
Absolutely great idea! Would love to hear more from the two of you. Keep providing us updates from Scientology and I enjoyed when you would discuss other American cults. You do amazing work!
Gerard Plourde says
I would definitely listen to your podcasts. Your A&E series was fantastic (the heartbreaking stories, while hard to listen to, needed to be given wide exposure). Podcasts would continue that vital work.
Shelley says
Absolutely!!! Seeing a lot more prescience from CoS over in Europe now too I lived in England and now Ireland and their ‘churches’ are popping up in the UK quite a lot! They even have started ads on social media and games 🤬 really missing the series bringing awareness a podcast would be amazing!
Tracy says
Absolutely! Keep the momentum going. The victims of the cult need to hear your voices. The more you talk, the more cult victims you influence.
The more victims you influence, the weaker the cult becomes.
Barbara says
Please do! I refuse to stop fighting until all are free to make their own decisions and we need your voices. You are both a cornerstone in this fight.
P.s. regardless of whether or not you do the podcast, thank you for all you’ve done 🙏🏼❤️
Martin Ottmann says
Hello Mike,
to do podcasts is a great idea.
I generally love to hear stories from insiders about the inner workings of the organization, f.e. within OSA, the upper Scientology management, the FSO, the FSSO, the Apollo, etc.
Autumn says
Exposing the truth about institutions (religious or not). That’s what I want to hear on your podcast. Nowhere else are we getting this content and it’s important to know the truth.
Christian says
A big yes
Ty Chappell says
A podcast is a great idea, although I prefer a show similar, if not a continuation, of The Aftermath. If it’s not viable to do on TV, what about YouTube? Anything to continue to expose this organization for the evil that it is. Thanks for what you do, Mike and Leah!
Dashea Carlson says
Yes please!!! I would love to know what the Scientologists are saying about Coronavirus and if they are socially distancing etc.
Lorna Carleton says
Hi Mike and Leah,
A podcast would be great regarding all the aspects that you mentioned in your article. Firstly, though I think your followers would like an update as to what you both have been doing and how all of this has affected you and your families. Those featured on your shows are not the only ones being subjected to the crazinesses that the church inflicts.
Another topic I think many would be interested in is regarding the different types of Ex-Scn and clarification on who they are, and how leaving Scn on the outside happens in stages for many: a person leaves, but still is a true believer in LRH and the tech, then they believe less in LRH, but still in the tech and so on. I think many would be interested in how many break free from the brainwashing.
How about “After the Aftermath” for a title.
Thanks for all that you do.
Steve Friedl says
How about you try to infiltrate Ross and Carrie, then do a podcast about it? 🙂
grisianfarce says
Or infiltrate Reckless Ben, pretending to be a slackliner.
Melissa says
I would love for there to be a discussion that helps people understand the difference between a good religion and a cult. In my mind, I think of my own faith and how we are encouraged to learn about other faiths so that it points us back to the TRUTH, something that cults forbid because they know they are not the TRUTH.
I want to hear about all the things suggested previously!
Also, I am looking for a new podcast. PLEASE do this!
Jennifer says
Please, please, PLEASE do a podcast!! I would love for you to continue discussions regarding what was discussed on the A&E show and anything you can give us to be more informed about the dangers of this organization!
d lawless says
Yes, Yes, Yes. The more you do, the more We can respond and share the word about this criminal organization.
Angela B. says
YES! I would subscribe immediately! I would love to hear updates on what has happened with you and Leah since the end of the show. How the CoS has responded since the end of the show or what ripple effects you are seeing in the Church as a result of the show and your many other efforts. I would love to hear updates from some of the people featured on the show. I would be interested to hear from any recent Scientologists who have left as a result of your show (or other reasons). I would love to learn more about the current state of the Church, David Miscavige, any pending court cases involving Scientology, and how Mark Bunker is doing since his recent election win and what plans he has for Clearwater. And with the current COVID-19 situation, I would be interested to hear more about how Scientology is handling (or not handling) it and how they keep their parishioners giving money with so many out of work.
Also, would like a broader look at cults in general in terms of what makes a person susceptible to a cult or what could help someone to break free of one. Have definitely missed hearing your voices! 🙂
Scott P Ogle says
DOJ’s / Law enforcements’ absolute refusal to regulate institutional rapes of church, and State closing 99% of the few rapes reported.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18RSfmCT1dYA9fQUOZbgE-uD9G_6tMxN4/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6lgc1KBLb0bW01VUJuQVAzbmc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XtHyFd2WTBiPItXnm-u64qgsela_y06P/view?usp=sharing
Kathleen Viviano says
Hell yes! I would like to hear all the details that either of you felt should not have been edited out of the series. Best news today!
Dixie says
As a resident of Pinellas County who works in downtown Clearwater, I would love to hear your podcast.
Gena A. says
I would love an update on how many people the Aftermath Association has helped and what the escapees are doing now and how theyare enjoying their freedom.
Sparkay says
Give it a try. Nothing to lose. Make a point every week of inviting one of their celebrities on to give their point of view & answer any questions. Jenna & Bohdi Elfman John Travolta, Kirstie Alley , Ann Archer & the like . The silence will be deafening.
Skyler says
I have a feeling there must be a way to flush out these celebs or former celebs (people like Elfman, Travolte, Kirstie, etc.
There must be a way that is better than just saying, “We asked them for comment but there was no response.”
Surely in the tricks of the scam, there likely is a technique to embarass them or almost force them to respond. Maybe you could use the old “default” trick?
You could announce, we have invited Ms. Bone Head to respond and we will assume that if she does not respond, that will be equivalent to her tacid agreement that Pope Pee Wee is a scumbag, liar and a worshipper of vermin. See if that might elicit a response?
It’s like all these places (like insurance companies) where you phone them and you get an automated telephone answering system that says, “By your continuing to remain on the line, you are giving us your implied permission for us to raise your rates 20 percent.”
Why not try to use the same dirty tricks that big business uses against us and use it against these faded former celebs. After all, somehow, someone needs to teach them a lesson there is a price to pay for joining a scum sucking cult that strokes their ego while at the same time they beat the crap out of 90 percent of the other members and suck their bank accounts dry.
Would that be too nasty to use one of their same tricks against them? Is it true that, “All’s fair in the war against this scam”?
bixntram says
Mike, I’d like to hear from your wife, Christie, on a podcast. Ditto Leigh, your husband (forgot his name), mom or sister. I’d like to hear if, and how, you’ve been harassed in the last couple of years. You, and Christie, have suffered greatly – with “lost” family members for starters. Doing the right thing in the face of evil is hard – but you’re doing it, God bless you both.
Michelle says
How is the Aftermath Foubdation doing? How many ex-members/survivors have you served?
Joanne says
I would love that!!! I miss the two of you. You have enlightened so many people about the destruction Scientology has caused for all of these years. I knew they were secretive, now I know why. I would love an update on Valerie’s case. Also Danny Masterson. I would love for Shelly to come out and talk to you. I hope she is still alive. You never know with that bunch.
God Bless you both, love y’all ❤️
Betsy Sylvester says
I’d like you to cover topics and expansions on topics that were restricted by the TV network format.
Teresa Smith says
How do you think David Misscaviage is handling Coronavirus in his cult. How many of his followers do you think have Coronavirus and it is being covered up? Also do you think Misscaviage is letting his followers suffer instead of seeking treatment for the Rona?
Jack says
You could talk about The Underground Bunker and Mark Bunker. Update on legal efforts and realize that there are millions of your followers out here that appreciate your purpose and work and besides silently following… we’d love to know who and where we could write letters to, or servers we reach out to by-the-millions, to crash.
Keep a running total of the number(s) that escape each month, and how the millions of us can encourage the thousands of them to do so. Dates and locations of their special events so that we can simply overwhelm them by OUR numbers !
Lee Barrow says
I’d love for you guys to do a podcast. I would definitely listen. Please do it!
John P. says
Mike, it would be amazing if you and Leah were to do a podcast.
I would make one urgent request: podcasts are completely worthless for people like me. People have different ways that they acquire and process information — visual, kinesthetic, logical, social, etc. Auditory learning is one of those — people remember what they hear. I am extremely poor at auditory memory — if you play a one-minute audio recording of something, I will be unable to recall a single thing that was said one minute later. If I listen and take extensive notes, then read the notes, my recall will be extremely high. If you talk to me in person or on a video, I’ll remember because what I’ll remember are the visual cues of your body language, and other things. But a disembodied voice literally goes in one ear and out the other.
So if you do a 40-minute audio-only podcast, I’ll have absolutely nothing to show for the time spent listening. But if, in addition to the audio content, you post some sort of transcript, or if you do it as a vlog, then I would absolutely be able to get value out of it. I know I’m not alone in this, but I don’t know what percent of the population has similar issues.
Thanks in advance for taking this into consideration…
Clearly Not Clear says
This is a great idea. There may be a program that can pull a transcript out of an audio recording.
I bet Chris Shelton would know.
A podcast is a great idea.
My interests include minors working in the Sea Org and manipulating women.
I’ve always found stories to be most relatable.
This is a brilliant idea.
If a huge number of these stories get out there it would hasten the demise of this cult.
Balletlady says
Also I should have added…sexual assault of women & children (male & female)…they’ve covered the child labor, but that needs to be further explored.
The child molestation, rapes, etc….the “time has run out”…what BULLSHIT that is…the LAWS need to be changed because children are threatened with harm or the harm of their families if they don’t comply with a sexual demand…so out of fear…the child remains silent & endures…..
Belynda says
John P – you are So Right! I think a Vlog would be the most effective . . . . .
CHRISTOPHER A Bryant says
Talk about the changes in Scientology.. Recruitment in Scientology and how is it thriving with Covid 19 pandemic.
ConcernedCitizen says
Mike,
My First suggestion would be to talk about the stuff that got cut from the Aftermath. I am sure there was a ton of good content that could be swept up from the cutting room floor. Also, like in over the Rainbow, how possible would it be to find a current member for interview? One last idea, interviews with the Apollo crew are always a really interesting, anybody who knew and worked with the old man have some amazing stories.
Rebecca Wentworth says
Steven Mango would be a great guest
Mary says
Yes! All of the things please.
Marco Visconti says
I would absolutely love it, and would love to see you both address the esoteric roots of Scientology in Thelema. I recently discussed this with Chris Shelton, and would love to continue the discussion on as many channel as possible – since the similarities in cultic behaviours are astounding.
Kelley says
I would love for you both to do a podcast together. Honestly, any type of outlet that can tell people’s stories of this horrific organization, I would watch, read, or listen to.
Steve says
Please discuss having a resource for identifying people connected with the C of S that gaslight thise who leave and centralizing a way to file harassment complaints and catalogue data for class action! People just want to get on with their lives without being stifled, obstructed and having their character assassinated!
John F says
Are all your efforts having an effect on people leaving Scientology and is Scientology losing money over this basically how affective have you been
Krista says
I would absolutely listen to a podcast by you guys. Topics I’d be interested in are: any available updates to the fight against Scientology; a ‘where are they now?’ For the ones that appeared on your show; and any new ex-members that are compelled to speak out and may feel more comfortable doing it on a podcast vs showing their faces on TV.
Nancy Duran says
Yes! I’d want to know your thoughts on the Clearwater politician who is working to curb Scientology’s strong hold in Clearwater.
I’d also like to hear your thoughts on the woman who escaped – forget her name but I think she was the assistant to David and the courts saying her case needs to be heard by Scientology’s board. Why? It seems insane to me.
You both are amazing. Please do a podcast.
Lisa Stiras says
Yes please!!! Continue with Scientology and other cult topics. Throw in some random stuff too, perhaps? Honestly, anything you
talk about would be great. You 2 are amazing together! 👍🏻
Lewis says
It would be awesome to hear follow ups from people that were featured on aftermath..
Erin says
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!!!! And Yes!!!!
Courtney says
Yes absolutely! I think hearing more about the amount of power and control that celebrities have would be important. Is Tom next in line to run things? He is basically David’s right hand man right? I think also going deep and exposing Hubbard for the liar that he is would be important and fascinating. I listened to another podcast where they refuted all of his lies and I was shocked! Maybe an update on your efforts legally and how they are going? Whether the show encouraged other people to leave. What is the state of the org now that you have exposed so much?
Cat W. says
Great idea!
My request: Gerry Armstrong. The little I know of his story is fascinating and perplexing (e.g., court ruling). How we wouldn’t even know of Hubbard’s Affirmations without him. That kind of thing. Even whatever the controversies are between him and other former Scientologists — all I know is that there’s a lot of bad feeling. Seems worth hearing both sides, clearing the air.
Cindy says
I agree re Gerry Armstrong.
Charles Steeves says
PLEASE. DO GERRY ARMSTRONG. YOU OWE IT TO HIM
Lisa McColgan says
Oooo! General updates on Scientology tomfoolery, followed by maybe a main story concerning “religious” abuses, followed by a couple of personal stories from listeners. I think that would be a sustainable format. I’ve been podcasting just under a year; it’s a learning process for sure.
Laurie says
YES!! Stay on Co$’s butt!
Patti says
Yes! Talk about what y’all are passionate about
Jack says
… and perhaps an update every month on the GREAT work being done by their store-front, outreach organization like volunteer ministries… the way to happiness…
judy and I circle around these quite often, and visit the Keen Rd. properties… just slowing down and taking picture… knowing security is watching and responding… then waving and moving along. All public area stuff. It’s like watching a train wreck, and knowing the wreck is watching you back.
Lise Bremond says
I’m curious, what makes someone”Susceptible” to falling prey to a cult. I think investigation into this and really in depth study of cult survivors would be really interesting, informative, and really could help prevent people from falling victim.
Arely says
Absolutely yes! I would love to hear a podcast from you both! Honestly I’d listen to anything you had to talk about from politics, environmental issues, pop culture, entertainment industry. Anything lol!
Ira Schneider says
I think anything related to Scientology’s response to the pandemic would be interesting. Also, any follow-ups from the previous seasons would be appreciated as well.
Brian Burgoyne says
Hell yeah! Do that podcast!
Derek says
I like to read articles, Podcast is not good for me, I’m Deaf.
Skyler says
I believe most podcasts have an option to show closed captioning at the same time is is being broadcast.
I know that reading the closed captioning may not be 100% as good as listening to it.
But could you perhaps educate some of us who may not understand why it is not good enough for you?
I suspect there are likely several good reasons why closed captioning just does not make up for the absence of a sound track. Can you please tell us why that is so? I’d really like to know if you don’t mind.
Skyler says
Please do not take any offense when I asked you why closed captioning is not good enough for you.
When I reread that, it sounded like I was criticising you for expressing the opinion that what the rest of us used was not good enough for you. That is absolutely not my meaning.
I’m quite sure there are several important reasons why trying to understand a podcast without the sound and relying on closed captioning is definitely not good enough for people who cannot hear. I was being sincere when I asked if you could possibly educate me as to just what the reasons for that is.
I hope you will not be offended by the silly way in which I worded my request.
derek says
Most of Deaf don’t goes to podcast, they goes to websites to looking for transcript.
He can add podcast page for transcript that’s good.
I haven’t checked out podcast to see if it has CC.
kind like this website
https://www.thisismythical.online/links-strange-physical-therapy-visit/
Skyler says
I looked at the link you posted. They do provide closed captioning.
You can turn it on by clicking on the icon at the bottom of the screen. It is the icon that is fourth from the right near the bottom of the screen.
I was able to turn on closed captioning without any need to hear anything that was spoken in that video.
I’m not sure if that is any help to you.
Dick Fouse says
Great idea to have a podcast. Got a name for it…Thetan Thoughts.
😂😂😂😂
Juli H says
Yes please!! Podcast away!! I listen to more podcasting than t.v.
Will be on board!!
Imaberrated says
Some ideas:
• You don’t need to recap what you or Tony cover in the blogs. I read those daily.
• Don’t replicate what Chris Shelton and others are doing.
• You don’t need to record it as video and release on YouTube and as an audio podcast. I don’t watch those.
• Don’t make it too long. I don’t have time for long episodes.
• Odd pieces of Scientology history, from your experience, or from others, that give a bigger picture of what has happened.
• Interviews with exes.
• John Krasinski is doing a good-news show. That might be a template: things that are going well in resolving Scientology’s destructive behaviour.
• As Lewis suggests, follow-ups from people that were featured on “Aftermath”.
• As ConcernedCitizen suggests, cover the stuff that got cut from the “Aftermath”.
• The more I think about it, I think it would work well as an audio adjunct to the TV show, continuing that work, and thus the name should include the word “Aftermath”, like “After Aftermath”.