The question scientologists all over the world are asking — at least if you ask Sea Org Recruitment Officer Jett Lahde…
There are so many oddities in this — it is an interesting look into the mind of a young Sea Org member.
He has probably never clicked on the tv or turned a page in a newspaper (this is not part of Sea Org life) — but he knows what he has been told.
He knows about the legalization of Marijuana (it deserves a capital letter apparently) and someone has clued him in that Ecstasy and mushrooms and LSD are “on approval lines” at the FDA (?) and 80 million Americans are taking psychiatric drugs (when I google this, it says 40 million, but who’s counting?).
He has been convinced that “some law” is going to be created “tightening down the restraint on our freedom” – no idea what he is talking about here. Perhaps a law to require tax exempt organizations prove they actually provide a public benefit in order to qualify? That would certainly restrain the freedom of scientology to abuse people…
But the real thing he is preaching is that we need more people in order “to deal with the amount of people flooding our gates.” This kid probably never makes it out of the CLOWUS building to observe the “floods of people” who are NOT willing to set foot inside LA Org, the Test Center, Pasadena, Valley or any other org. But someone told him this is so, and so he parrots it.
The actual answer to the question: “How long to Clear the Planet?” is a resounding NEVER. Scientology is in fact going backwards fast. There are about 1.5 million people added to the population of earth each week. If scientology expanded their current delivery by 100,000 times — generously giving them 15 Clears made each week — they would stop going backwards. In other words, instead of 150 orgs, they had 1.5 million they would be at 0 gain on Clearing the planet, holding steady. Of course they have had the same number of orgs for 30 years. To get this number of orgs within a year Miscavige would have to yank 30,000 ribbons on NEW orgs EVERY week.
Even Jett Lahde could understand this if he did some math.
It really IS hopeless.
Bus long as they keep telling themselves “we are clearing the planet” and never confront reality they believe they are… Deluded is too mild a word.
All I can think of as a comment, after seeing the name “Jett Lahde”, is a fifth rate supervillain that the 1950’s Superman TV series writers rejected as a guest villain.
Here’s something Jett Lahde hasn’t confronted yet:
How can you ‘Clear’ the planet when you can’t ‘Clear’ the Sea Org?
Your own ‘elite’ isn’t ‘Clear’ so…why should the public buy into scientology when your own 24/7 dedicated para military organization isn’t even allowed to go ‘Clear’. Something to think about Jett and all OSA observers out there.
I rarely post but always read Mike’s column. I enjoy all the responses. I’m a wog with no idea what most of you went through except it was evil. So sorry that happened. I really enjoyed the discussion. Thanks for allowing me to eavesdrop.
https://www.pixoto.com/images-photography/animals/sea-creatures/barking-seals-5437779953582080.jpg
I believe these barking seals are OSA staff following Dave’s orders.
Aaaah, i found a typo in Jett’s letter…he stated “the amount of people flooding our gates”, when in fact he meant to say “the amount of people flooding OUT our gates.”
Guess they need a GAT II editor/proofreader.
Tommy J said:
“Guess they need a GAT II editor/proofreader.”
that IS a result of GAT II, doncha know? What they REALLY need is a standard, ordinary education in the real world, not what they’re subjected to in scn. But, of course the Munchkin® couldn’t be bothered to submit to anyone else teaching and his having to demonstrate competence
100!!
I apologize that this is a bit off topic but I am compelled to share it anyway. This following quote is from an email I just go from CO CLO UK. From personal experience it is so, so wrong I cannot keep my mouth shut.
“WHY KIDS START HATING SCHOOL…
“Here are these little kids in class and the teacher is trying to teach them something and she punishes them every time they talk. Interesting, isn’t it? Why do kids start hating school? People are interrupting their communication lines continually in school. And this is education. Education should do exactly the opposite. It should build up their communication lines and that means all communication lines. If you did that, kids wouldn’t hate school. See, because you start breaking down the kid’s own communication lines that he considers are important, naturally his affinity goes down, so he hates school.”
Well, Blubbard had this totally wrong, as is usual from all I’ve witnessed and experienced during my many decades in the cult. I began to “hate” school around 3rd grade. Why? Because, when I began school at age 5 I had the understanding that I would learn all about life and how to actually DO things in the real world. Sadly by the time I reached 3rd grade the hope of this had vanished completely. It had become TOTALLY obvious that public school was only going to teach students how to robotically answer questions only for the purpose of passing tests. NO REAL FUCKING KNOWLEDGE that would be of ANY use in real LIFE situations! Just how to answer tests correctly so good grades could be given. Never anything on how to actually DO something in life. Never. Well, besides the 3 Rs anyway. It was such a big disappointment I literally “slept” through all the following years of school.
So, no Blubbard, I didn’t learn to hate school because I was being kept quiet! Not like you said. And just like so much of the other crap you tried to sell me in the decades I was “in”, this too was complete and utter fucking bullshit!
OMG! I am SO, SO, SO fucking GLAD to be OUT.
Scientologists are in fear. People are easy to manipulate when they are in fear.
Scientology manipulates and deceives people.
Scientology is a scam
Time to shut them down
“How long to Clear the Planet?”
Longer than the Sea Org contract time to ´help´LRH.
Plus there is target II, as per LRH, who by the way is very delayed!
Until someone who issues one of these advisories can get the math right on how long it will take to clear the planet, it’s hard to believe anything else they spout in their sourceless “facts” on things that are wrong with the planet.
The honesty level reminds me of this old commercial.
https://youtu.be/0UYvsk6_foc?t=34
Try this commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkr5SOxjihI
I remember this commercial.
…but there are wins and case gain to be had! As an ex member, I’m struggling reconciling my indisputable changes for the better and the obvious lies and mind control propogated and built into Scientology, even for the public.
“but there are wins and case gain”
Define EXACTLY what you mean. What EXACTLY is a “win”? What exactly is “case gain”? When defining DO NOT use scamology terms.
And this is what happens when you ask someone to define in real terms what scamology does that is good. NOTHING. The gears in the brain come to a screeching halt .
Lol. Wins and case gain = Improvements within oneself, observable and known and experienced by oneself!
Not sure if you’ve been involved with that group in any way shape or form, however, my post was not intended to inflame or upset but to sincerely help reconcile my pleasant and distasteful experiences with that group,as an ex member. (Shrugs)!
KSWTF – It’s possible to sort true from false and fact from fiction. For some people it’s quickly and for others it takes bit more time.
Cheers Richard!
Well for sure there are lots of problems to be solved on planet earth. Lots of people who need help. A society that needs lots of help. So fine. But just pointing out all of the problems, does not fix them.
And pointing out that society is getting worse isn’t saying so much for what Scientology has done so far, is it?
And by the way; the north star (Polaris) is over 400 light years away from earth. (Which is where planet “Coltis” is). The fastest ship we’ve ever had can go 1 light year in about 20,000 years. So from Coltis to Teegeeack in a few weeks? Maybe some alien civilization can go really fast, but I guarantee you, not in DC8’s that have no “fans”.
Geeze!
Current physics says that nothing can travel THROUGH space faster than the speed of light. Space itself can expand faster than the speed of light according to current theory and astronomical observation. An intrastellar vehicle would need to create space in front of itself and travel within that space.
I knew Jeff as a kid in Orange County, CA. Sad. I knew his dad Greg as well and his mom who died in her sleep of a heart attack at a young age. The dad Greg re married another Scio rather quickly and she too died.
Greg the Black Widower. He mates and kills.
A 500 mile wide asteroid should clear the planet fairly quickly I would think. Why doesn’t the IAS donate it’s “slush fund” to Space-X in return for a ship all the $cientologist “in good standing” can load into to go find one?
Note to Space-X: If they do, they’ll provide a ship commander and navigator who learned all about it in a past life. So no need for any training. And with the distance involved, you only have to fuel up to get their. The $cientologists will use their power over “MEST” to create the fuel for the return trip.
They can create fuel out of thin air?! Boy, that Miscavige is a genius! I wish I could be like him. (Big sigh). But, I’m just a wog. What do I know.
No need to contact Space-X. The NOI Mother Plane will be arriving soon. The NOI will need experienced auditors and admin personnel so several scientology crackers will be invited on board. Hurry up and get trained.
People working for the money is not working for the eternal freedom. They don’t know the truth. They equal money with eternal life. Eternal life is not bought for a dollar or two. Eternal life is earned.
“Eternal life is not bought for a dollar or two”. Truer words were never spoken!!! I had to cough up 5 fucking dollars to get Eternal Life. But, boy, it was worth it!!!
Rondroids are brainwashed.
The whole world is a human beings I. Her I is the whole world. With billions oif the same kind and billions of the same worth.
I have fed the data into a super computer at Cal Tech and the answer to how long it will take to clear the planet is … (drum roll please) … 87 trillion years … and that is 34 trillion years AFTER the asteroids hit and reduce the Earth’s population to just the people who will be living in what is now Kokomo, Indiana … (Now is the time to get those “humanitarians” on the ball for the Kokomo Ideal AOSHplanet Earth)
I am sooo tempted to email him and get the “article”, but I will refrain. The delusions in the cult are mind blowing. The insular world of the sea org is what scares me the most about how this is set up- they seem to have no interaction with the outside, and live to take orders from Miscavige. When the implosion eventually happens, these are going to be the individuals at most risk.
Its so sad that they think they are doing good and trying to save the planet…Their hearts are in the right place, but they put their trust in the wrong people.
No bout a doubt that!
The worst thing is that in our nation that professes a love for freedom and democracy, we have this organization that is able to effectively hypnotize people into doing any crazy thing they are told to do.
Under the ridiculous exemption afforded by Religious Freedom, this includes most every despicable crime up to and including murder (ref: Lisa McPherson) and kidnapping (ref: Shelly Miscavige).
Compare this to slavery. Our nation would never stand idly by if people proposed to bring back slavery. But the justice departments of this nation stands idly by why this scam does effectively the same thing?
They are running a slavery operation disguised under some absurd Religious Freedom.
Selling the concept of clearing the planet is such a delusional trap. It undercuts the rational mind and pushes the “help button” with a vengeance.
Dead L Ron used a most potent force to enslave Scientologists:
OUR OWN ENATE GOODNESS, OUR OWN DESIRE TO HELP
What a trap!
And to lock in the delusion with a further vengeance he:
Defined all who disagree with him as evil SPs! This essentially bars anyone from thinking freely.
OSA onlookers, you have been duped. Get out while you can. Get out while you can!
Well, there is that billion year contract to take into account. According to my rough calculation, that amounts to over 11 million lifetimes, give or take a few thousand. And considering that all Sea Org staff still have about a billion years left on their contracts, perhaps we’re not looking at the bigger picture. Clearing the planet could be a project that’s better scaled in factors of numerous lifetimes.
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Can clearing a planet be much different time wise? And it might be possible that clearing the planet follows the Infinite Monkey Theorem. As some of you are surely familiar with: The theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare. And come to think of it, applying Scn tech isn’t very different from a bunch of monkeys banging at random on typewriters. Give it time.
That theorem is speculation about space and time along with who knows how many others. Likewise 11 million lifetimes. Maybe the thetan resides outside of time for long periods limiting the number of “returns”. Theoretical metaphysics – blah, blah, haha, haha
Somehow “clearing the planet” seems way too spooky to me. Clear it of just what? There have been those who wanted to clear the planet of anyone who didn’t agree with them. The planet has been hanging around for a while and survived some rally horrific events. Survived due to non-scientologists who never heard of scientology. I feel bad for the kid. There’s no joy in SeaOrgVille. What a waste of time for a young life.
What galls me is his pseudoscientific attitude. He presents a fact about increasing freedom — people being allowed to decide for themselves whether to partake of a substance with far fewer negative effects than alcohol — as well as a fact about a psychological & medical choice about how to treat disorders that respond to medication, before he brings up shootings, strongly implying that the freedom and those medical choices somehow caused the shootings. Which is blatantly false. Then he goes on to say that this means that any day now we will lose freedoms. No. Or maybe we will, but it’s not relevant to any point he’s made or implied. For example, women’s reproductive freedom is systematically being restricted again, but that is not caused by marijuana use, prescription of psych meds, psylocibin or MDMA becoming psych meds, the incidence of shootings, or people not joining the Sea Org.
The solution required to decrease shootings is not eliminating psych meds, blocking approval of psilocybin and MDMA as treatments for certain disorders, cracking down on marijuana again, or joining the Sea Org. Curtailing access to guns by people likely to use them against other people would help. Improving the culture to get people to listen to each other would help. But he presents his whole case as pure conspiracy theory, not even saying what he’s really saying. He just throws items around in a disinformational stew. Really annoys me. Shows how bad our educational system is. I say, forget the Sea Org; send him to community college and make sure he gets taught the critical thinking skills he should have been taught in middle or high school.
“Deluded is too mild a word.”
I suppose this is how they keep themselves in, how they keep themselves going.
Thank God I never got anyone into Scientology.
When I was in, it was a
Scientology kids mostly go to Scientology schools and between these schools, their local Scientology orgs and their koolaid-drinking parents, they grow to adulthood in a bubble. They’re mostly ignorant and and proud to be so. From all sides they’re constantly told that its great that they don’t know much because what they don’t know isn’t not worth knowing anyway, and learning anything except Scientology is a complete waste of money and time. Consequently they’re on a par with the most disadvantaged children in this country. Their actual demographic is poor and uneducated. But actually, awareness wise, they’re beneath this socio-economic group. Poor, inner city. poor rural children at least KNOW that they’re ignorant and disadvantaged. THESE kids walk around in the delusion that they’re superior beings. When I was in I knew many of them. Mostly unemployable, drifting in and out of the family business, living at home well into their 30s and sometimes 40s… at the same time, they appeared to think very highly of themselves. This facade usually crumbled when they reached their mid-twenties, facing their 30s. That’s when it began to be real for them that they had nothing going for themselves and very few chances to make it in life. And that’s when the Sea Org, smelling blood in the water, would resurface. Sad, really. But from infancy they were set up, with the best of intentions, to fail in the real world.
Following lrh’s lead of making up conclusions with no actual research. Assuming… It IS annoying for sure. Sad.
Mike, if this guy is young I can tell you (from what happened to me) that he is sincerely fearful of all of the disasters that are looming. It is a paranoia that gets fed every muster! Everyone agrees within the small group of humans he has contact with and I’m gonna guess his parents have joined in on the paranoia.
This letter proves that it doesn’t matter what decade a person is part of this cult: the message is the same and if you don’t have anyplace to go to for help (and asking for help would get you on the RPF) you only have one choice: believe it.
I feel bad for this guy. I think I wrote the exact same letter back in the 80’s after becoming sick twice and getting PTS handlings. Sent them to people that were my “best friends” in middle school, to my antagonistic family members too. I really felt that they were wasting their time on earth by not contributing to the vision I was sharing and I hated them for it after a while. I NEVER felt sorry for them though: they weren’t strong enough (like me) to deal with the “truth”.
Sarita,
The fears of these born into Scientology kids is just superstitious nonsense, that’s all.
“A new Dark Age”…”We don’t have an infinity of time to get out the trap”…”This is a deadly serious activity”…this is bullshit drummed into them from infancy.
Back in Columbus’ day ignorant peasants thought the world was flat and you could fall off, and/or there were sea monsters waiting to devour anyone who ventured too far.
Uneducated, untravelled, provincial people are known to harbor strange fears and phobias and to pass them down generation to generation. They’re out of communication with the rest of the world. They only communicate with one another and so none of this crazy stuff gets challenged or dispelled.
They may look different, dress different, but Scientologists in good standing have the basic mentality of ignorant savages. They’ll run away from you if you challenge anything they believe. That’s how primitive people react and behave. They’re very afraid, very mistrustful. Their life experience is extremely narrow and any person or group or situation that doesn’t fit into the limited little lives is suspect and possibly dangerous or deadly. That’s primitive-think, and that’s a Scientologist. Unable to communicate, very afraid to communicate with anyone except another Scn. And yet they believe they’re the experts in communication! Pretty funny.
“… observe the “floods of people” who are NOT willing to set foot inside LA Org, the Test Center, Pasadena, Valley or any other org.”
That may be a bit of a misstatement. I don’t know about all the people in those floods. But I’m not willing to set foot anywhere in L.A. or in Clearwater. I just cannot be responsible for what I might say when someone asks me if I’d like to take a free personality test.
I remember how truly hurt and puzzled Leah was when she was a little kid and offered some literature to people walking down the street and they would shout at her, “Cult! Cult! Cult!”.
I’d hate to think how some young person might feel if I suggested to them that they take their free personality test and stick it right up their ass.”
‘Floods of people?’ Bwahahahahahahahahahahah!!! Whew! Now that’s some funny shit! In fact…Bwahahahahahahahahahahah!!! Sorry. I just can’t help it.
Again, when I was in the OC Idle Morgue, it was almost empty. This is a movement that’s not going very far.
Not even considering the math, there is an even more relevant factor: there is no actual state of clear, as it’s a vague term subject to much interpretation. Saying you are going to clear the planet, is like saying you are going to improve the quality of life on a global scale.
That’s because there ARE NO CLEARS!! Why? BECAUSE IT’S ALL MAKE BELIEVE!!!!!
What I really like though is paying $2,500 to run around in a circle…you even have to pay for the fancy clothes they give you to run around in.
IF Scientology delivered what was promised, the planet would have been cleared long ago.
No Super Bowl commercials or other TV advertising would have been necessary either.
Word-of-mouth advertising by itself would have created long lines of people attempting to get into every Scientology Org on the planet, taking advantage of Dianetics and Scientology.
Back in 1950 (in the original Dianetics book) the claim was made that:
Dianetic therapy is able to cure, completely and with no chance of relapse, all “inorganic” and “psycho-somatic” illnesses (which, Hubbard says later in the book, make up 70 percent of all human ailments).
Just that alone, if it were true, would be enough to have billions of people wanting to take advantage.
Unfortunately, the claims made in that book, as well as many others since, were fraudulent in nature.
Even worse, the wasted lives of thousands who were willing to devote their lives to serve humanity, instead we ended up serving a criminal enterprise. Had those of us that got ensnared in this trap instead worked for legitimate organizations that truly DID serve humanity, the world would be a better place.
Perfectly said!
When I was in Scientology, the idea of “clearing the Planet” never was mentioned until the very end of my stay in 1989. During my seventeen years from 1972-1989, we only talked about a few clears and a few OT’s somehow getting the job done. I do not remember the exact tape references. Hubbard in the 1950’s said on a tape that “there are only about 10,000 people on the entire planet who can stomach Scientology”. It always hit me that Scientology was basically hypnotism where you start with a large group and eliminate people as they fail to obey. If anything, modern society is far more diverse than in the 1950’s. There are only a few people left with an Occult frame of mind prone to falling for total subjective truth called “knowingness” by Hubbard. In the 1970’s Scientology was inexpensive and free. Miscavige raised prices for worthless activity. So to buy into Scientology today you have to buy into Hubbard and Miscavige. Only a few will do it. You can flatten every Hubbard implant from History of Man. There are no OT powers. Why spend $400.000 to discover what is obvious. You can check all historical sources about “OT powers” and “extrasensory perception” . None are as primitive as Scientology.
George,
When I got in in 1975, indeed “Clearing the Planet” came across as generic wishful thinking, but not at all specific in a time target anymore. No target to Clear everyone.
But, 339R writing to staff, he reiterates Clearing earth and then going onto another planet.
And in the tech film for the Briefing Course, within that film one can deduce Hubbard saw highly trained Scientologists finding themselves on other decayed civilizations in the long range future, where those individual Scientologists will be responsible to start Scientology actions based on their memory of the “tech”, since they will be out there by themselves.
Hubbard threw out a lot of broad movement membership writings over his last 7-8 years that ought to be compiled and indexed, and show where his final years thinking and communications to the movement followers, were.
As a full writings of Hubbard all taken into consideration type of hindsight observer of Hubbard and Scientology, I thought from the day I got out, that Hubbard had to be taken at his own words, and as he wrote using his own rules, which presumably he expected the leaders of Scientology to follow suit.
The way Miscavige had chicken pecked out Miscavige’s nuggets of Hubbard’s strategic goals, and carried on with the Miscavige interpreted and selective Hubbard ideas and strategies, my first bunch of years out of Scientology, I just saw Miscavige as mistaken in not sticking with Hubbard’s final final years of the broad public writings, especially the LRH ED Ron’s Journals.
But, again, this argument of “Clearing the Planet” strategic marketing “rekindling” and re-releasing or reimplementing of old Hubbard goals, does have some parallel to the 339R writing to staff, of Clearing earth and going to another planet, and also fits in with the Briefing Course tech film concept Hubbard relays to Briefing Course students that they will find themselves someday in future lives on other planets wishing they’d studied their Scientology tech principles well enough to get Scientology going on other planets.
There just is too much Hubbard writings, I can sympathize continually with anyone who’s trying to implement these Scientology Hubbard strategies.
Hubbard was cosmic and long range future future, eternally future lives, about his Scientology principles, his “tech” (quackery pseudo-therapy/exorcism).
That cosmic whole universe fixup “game” Hubbard uses as the backdrop for Scientology, just is a hard lure to contend with, due to other long term lures already played out in human history.
Very great reply, Chuck. You nailed it in your summary. I can see how he would spread the idea first in the Special Briefing Course. I was always skeptical about Hubbard’s claims to past lives because he did not have 50% female bodies. It would make sense for him to tell Sea Org members that they would be travelling in space.
It’s actually noted by researchers as being typical of the illusory phenomenon of the mind that produces what can seem like past life memories, that individuals rarely imagine themselves being a different sex, or ethnicity. Plus of course no one can fluently speak a foreign language (or even a proper version of archaic English – just poor imitations that fail linguistic analysis), provide real details that are verifiable and couldn’t have been known otherwise, and so on.
And then there’s the problem of multiple people claiming to have been the same famous, archetypal figures from the past – a complication well-known before Hubbard’s time – though he did come up with some relatively creative attempts to account for it or explain it away.
“When I was in Scientology, the idea of “clearing the Planet” never was mentioned until the very end of my stay in 1989.”
In ’79 management sent out to orgs and mission propaganda about clearing the planet. By ’80 this was being talked about in all orgs and missions. ALL during the early 80’s this was talked about at events.
George, you are losing your memory.
I’m uncertain about OT Powers. There was an old TV show called “King Fu” about a Shaolin priest. The intro to the show said, “Looked for he cannot be seen. Listened for he cannot be heard. Reached for he cannot be touched.” That’s pretty Oh Tee! A couple hundred hours of auditing and who knows? Exterior with full perception. Wow!
Hopelessness and Depair – SOP in Scientology.
This is the covertly constant Scientological condition of the Organization and the members
The Organization convinces members they are BROKE and need a LOT of money and free labor
The Organization uses propaganda to convince the members the Psychs are coming…. the Psychs are coming….AND the World is going to hell in a hand basket.
Scientology convinces you to stop watching the news (no entheta) and then they covertly peddle entheta at the events and in every Registrar Cycle and Recruitment Cycle.
The Orgs are sprinkled with propaganda on how evil the Psychs are and all the damage they did.
This gets the eye off of the TRUE SUPPRESSIVE; Scientology, Hubbard and Miscavige, whilst they pick your pocket, bank account, IRA, inheritance and then get you into debt never before reached by cult members before.
Hopelessness and Despair is the condition peddled covertly BY Scientology. It keeps the members reaching for more and more Scientology services and there is an endless menu of time and money wasters to keep them in for a looooooooong time.
A Bridge to No Where
Then the clever Training Bridge – to teach them how to manipulate others (to get them to join staff and give up all money) and then there is the thought and emotion STOPPING techniques only learned at a Scientology Church. That is used so no one is too upset when they discard their jobs, their homes, their money, their families, their time and effort without sorrow.
Scientologist’s are in various conditions depending on what is needed and wanted by Scientology.
HOPELESSNESS
They put people through hell to get on the Bridge and then more hell to do the Bridge. Scientology puts up all of the road blocks to finishing the Bridge. They are the rule makers.
The more time and money you invest – the more your ego wants to be right. This is accomplished with the time spent at a Scientology MORGUE. You will get fleeced and you will get “genned” in to all of the group think and cult language. UNDERSTOOD? Okay, Good! Spot On. I get it.
Getting anywhere near accomplishing anything on the Bridge brings happiness to the poor sap trying.
BECAUSE he did it – not necessarily what he did. Or she.
Brainwashing
When they get the slobbering sciobot blurting out the “win after win after win” jibberish
They record it, take photos of the fool and then do videos. This is the Scientology propaganda.
They to parade the fool, the photos, success stories and videos around the “events” to give those in DESPAIR a little HOPE.
It also is used to invalidate and nullify themselves sitting in the small group that (it must be them) as to why they are not having the amazing “wins” or getting case gains. It muzzles those not getting case gain. Most don’t and manufacture wins.
Those activities coupled with references from the ole man – Tubby Hubbard – (EVERYTHING HE SAYS is the TRUTH) “If you don’t make case gains – you are a suppressive and so on and so forth”
The tech is designed to get them that way….Hopeless about a future – what career is that important or valuable besides Clearing the Planet?
Despair about the condition of the planet – it is going to hell in a hand basket.
That condition will get people pliable to manipulate.
It worked on me.
CRINGE!
“Never mind this lifetime; safeguard your eternity.”
Same old religious con with a new twist.
Instead of “your reward shall be in heaven” its “safeguard your eternity”.
Thank you for that brilliant summation OE!
The CofS can’t even clear itself; this is probably written by an SO member who isn’t clear, and who Scientology may well not ever bother to get around to, even if they spend their whole lifetime supposedly working for them towards clearing the planet
There are also lots of long-term hangers-on at the local orgs and missions (not to mention the staff), who have never been able to come up with enough money to afford to go clear – and Scientology makes no provisions to help them, even if they put in a lifetime of loyal membership, either.
Curiously, that frames it as a problem of money as much as anything – there aren’t enough people to pay Scientology for going clear.
Oh, and isn’t the whole piece the sort of “merchant of chaos,” apocalyptic fear-mongering that Hubbard said was a sign of people seeking to manipulate others?
Jeez, the delusion level is incredible. I remember similar fear tactics used to keep me Catholic. It’s why I consider even mainstream world religions to be basically cults, even if less directly destructive than Scientology.
I wonder what “both sides” of the Bridge refers to.
“Both sides” are training and processing. The idea was you shouldn’t just climb up one side and go OT, you needed to balance that out by learning how to deliver the teck. Nowadays the two sides are probably fundraising and clearing up central files.
Delusion. Thy name is Scientology!
Thanks for your reply Suzette…I’ll bet you’re right!
In historical comparative strokes, Scientology’s wishful thinking positive (or not) goal of all humans regaining their positive (or not) soul powers, leading to a better earth, and in Hubbard’s cosmic vision of undoing the dwindling spiral future lives whole “game” of life in the universe layout (taking Hubbard at his words), I used to compare Scientology’s cosmic fixup goals to other long range goals of other religious traditional groups.
A “Cleared” planet, which is obviously just as unobtainable as are the predictions in Holy books of a messiah and return of God of the universe to earth is unlikely, the Scientology big Hubbard goals had at least one up on other past religions’ goals.
Really, my old Scientology theory principles loaded up brain cells fire off and make me type these words and relay that in my old Scientologist mind, no matter how unrealistic the goal’s accomplishment was unreal, no matter, it was a “good goal” to wish and presumably be working for a better human race, person by person.
And even if the Scientologists, none of them (as it is impossible to achieve) achieve soul powers like soul-flying, ESP and telekinesis, no matter these big achievements are not delivered (since it must be reiterated that soul powers have never been proven, just lottery winner coincidences befall Scientologists like befall any non-Scientologists), the playing of the hopeful wishful thinking game is just as positive as other religions.
Sadly, these wishful thinking cosmic goals of Hubbard’s can’t be unwritten. They can only be debated now that Hubbard has put this organized legitimized wishful thinking soul improvement business into a bureaucratized slot that carries on, due to the extensive details enwrapping the followers and staffs of the Scientology organizations and units.
I supposed if Scientology tapered back its nasty self abusing Hubbard policies, what would be left, I always conclude, would be freezone Scientologist groups, who themselves are proof that Scientology can be less nastily played out by followers in the freezone far less nastily bureaucratized groups.
It’s just endless how deeply Hubbard wrote so much, that effects the thinking, of the actual official Scientologists when they put out Scientology promotion.
Too much Hubbard writings swamp and could be used to coral the members this way and that,, rekindling the followers to Hubbard’s organizations supporting their never achieved, but “good” goals.
I agree, Francis. All religions Are cults, exercising varying degrees of control, financial extortion, and political influence/manipulation.
I hope you won’t mind if I disagree with you Belynda.
It’s just that the word “cult” carries some very special meaning to me.
Do you know who John Sweeny is? He is a TV reporter for the BBC and he made a film in which he got into a confrontation with Tom Davis (I hope I remembered his name correctly) who was at that time a spokes person for the scam.
When Sweeny called the scam a “cult”, Davis went beserk. I guess they tell their people that whenever someone calls it a cult they should react in a very angry way.
But I love the fact that the word remains a “hot button” word that elicits that kind of reaction from these criminals. Until our struggle is over (the struggle to end this criminal scam), I like the fact we can use that word and it will mean something special to us and to them and to the general public. It’s a great way to garner attention from the public and invite them to think about comparisons to slavery and to get their support for the end of this scam.
It is true that most religions ask for money from their followers. But they don’t go as far as this scam goes. They don’t force people into bankruptcy. They don’t destroy families (at least the ones that don’t try to recruit suicide bombers) and they don’t take things anywhere as far as this scam does.
So, I don’t disagree strongly with you. There is much truth in what you say. I just like having a word like “cult” that we can use to make these criminals stammer and stutter and spit out whatever they may be drinking at the time.
That is a good reason to wait until they take a drink of something and then use the word “cult” to see if you can make them spit up some liquid down their shirts.
We don’t often get a lot of enjoyment in this struggle. But I’ve always really enjoyed seeing them spit up something on themselves.
A belief in someone or something that may or may NOT exist…..something you can’t see, touch, hear etc. To speak your loyalty to “it” (him/her)..i.e. “I believe in …..”…..
No one will EVER know until our OWN demise if there is the so called “life after death” IS there a Heaven, IS there a Hell or is Hell on Earth the one and only Hell…all that remains to be seen only after our own death.
As has been stated numerous times….I personally don’t know anyone who’s truly died & got to live a 2nd life as in getting a new meat body….not yet or maybe not ever.
Add to that “forgiveness for our sins”……Well anyway, if even ONE person who is “guaranteed” a new meat body after his/her demise…PLEASE STEP FORWARD NOW…
HHmmmmm…uuummmmm…..yaeh right…..I THOUGHT SO
Science has not yet provided The Equation of Everything. Atheist scientific materialism is a point of view.
You are absolutely correct! There are thousands of cults just waiting for someone stupid enough to ask for a tour.