Some more words of wisdom from Pam Lancaster at CC Int.
You can “erase any past dissemination difficulty” and have the amazing “win” of “impinging on another being.”
The language of scientology is alien. It’s part of the bubble phenomena. Read these sentences to anyone outside scientology and they will be completely mystified. And these are not even scientology-coined words.
As always, they are desperate to get anyone roped in and started. Like the snake-oil salesmen of old, they have a pitch for every situation.
Okay, Pamela, that’s not creepy at all…
People who are in the Scientology bubble remain troubled by the subject of dissemination. They just don’t want to do it, and that feeling emanates from a gut level and remains with them despite any cheery expressions of their desires to do so.
The steps Scientology recommends you take to disseminate to new people are from Hubbard himself, and these steps lay out this orchestrated method which essentially boils down to you manipulating the person “for their own good” in order to get them onto “the bridge”.
All of this focus on finding a “ruin” is to direct the prospect’s attention onto something that is upsetting to him, self-defeating, unresolvable, etc., and is reliably something that his attention naturally drifts to in the first place.
But another thing the “ruin-finding” step does is it diverts the prospect’s attention away from the noisy alarms of his own bullshit detectors—to distract him from his “gut” response to being manipulated.
It doesn’t matter what the prospect says his ruin is, the answer is always, “Scientology can help you with that.”
For a person to share with you his inner-most secret, that thing that makes him feel most vulnerable, requires him to place the highest trust in you.
For you to take that trust and use it to manipulate him into getting into Scientology, using the rote steps of the dissemination drill is the very first betrayal he will experience from an association with a scientologist.
People in the bubble know that, if only deep down.
The fact that they want to impinge upon another being is sickening. The fact that LRH showed his minions how to influence people by using their ‘RUINS’ as leverage is equally as sickening.
‘Like sheep to the slaughter’
‘Forgive them, for they know naught what they do.’
https://youtu.be/2sh0wr7HH8Y
Any idiot can be a fervent believer. Any idiot can talk the talk. What makes the current COS scene so pathetic is that they’ve become all talk and no walk. I was there when the most able, smartest, and best trained staff started to drop away like flies off rancid carrion. They left quietly, underwent kangaroo-court justice, declared, or worse. It’s no wonder that COS numbers continue to diminish.
Chris, Scientology definitely once attracted many good people with natural charisma, and innate therapeutic skills – but no longer does. Those were people who would have attracted others to whatever they were doing, or left others feeling better regardless of whatever therapeutic modality they were using.
I saw signs of the tail end of that phenomenon myself. Those are people who now do things like teaching yoga and leading meditation groups, or getting trained and qualified in something legitimate such as cognitive-behavioral therapy – or at least do anything other than getting entangled with a dated, now-obvious scam like Scientology.
Yes, in the early days the people I met at the Dianetics counseling group (outpost of a mission) were really nice people who just wanted to help others. If they hadn’t used scamology crap but just counseled people from their heart I’m sure they would have succeeded financially and would probably still be around today.
Step one – “let them know you sincerely CARE about them …
not just physically but emotionally and spiritually “IF THOSE CONCEPTS ARE REAL TO THE PERSON”
The arrogance and irony in this statement is beyond the pale.
Step 1. If you really Care! Why haven’t you called or answered any of my calls in the past few years?
you better have an “acceptable truth to answer that….
To start with, good ol’ Pamela left off STEP ZERO!
You really think I’m gonna do all those freakin’ steps with all that talk, going to the phone, the website, the follow up, etc … all that work without doing a financial qual FIRST???? Whaddaya nuts?
I wanna know income, home equity, how much is available on the credit cards, the whole shebang BEFORE I give up my whole afternoon. Hell, I could be watching old NBA playoff games on YouTube and enjoying myself.
You always gotta remember that 10% of a coupl’a extension course ain’t freakin’ nuthin’ when you find out your selectee has bad credit and is looking for a job.
I want selectees who got those big trophies in their future, capisce? Oh yeah, I can taste those IAS commissions like they’re crawfish etouffee at K-Paul’s in Noo Awlins … Ooooo, weeee ….
🙂 @ Joe.
The so-called “ruin” is actually a very intimate aspect.
There are two factors that those who ‘apply’ this tech do not understand.
The first is that the person himself does not know his true ‘ruin’. Otherwise it would no longer be such. So finding out what it is and telling the reg is equivalent to becoming aware of it.
What the reg actually does is to magnify any problem the person says and makes them weigh (cowards).
The second is that the person to talk to is to confide, he needs to really trust the other person.
They should do courses or seminars that teach this. Be trustable.
But it would no longer be Scamology.
“HERE’S THE GAME AND HOW TO PLAY AND WIN:” – Ok, I’m game, let’s hear it.
“Let us know whatever stops or barriers you run into along the way.” – Understood and will do.
“1) Get in comm with your non-Scientologist friends, families, and associates and see how they are doing.” Easy enough.
“Let them know that you sincerely CARE about them…” – What? Whoa, whoa! What’s this?
I’m a SCIENTOLOGIST! “…Sincerely CARE…about THEM?” Um, I don’t think so. I don’t give a damn about anyone except myself and Command Intention. I’d have to drill for years make BS like this believable! BARRIER! BARRIER!
Aqua. Laughing. As you say: they don’t give a damn to others if this doesn’t translated in stats.
Help is really some stuff so high from their reality that they get headache.
Step 1. If you really Care! Why haven’t you called or answered any of my calls in the past few years?
you better have an “acceptable truth to answer that….Increased stats, of course😉
Aqua, your comment made me think of how it’s another example of Scientology co-opting the English language for their own ends.
In the policy “hard sell” and other places, to care about someone is redefined to mean that you have to doggedly manipulate them into doing some kind of Scientology service.
To say to someone, “you have to care” is like asking them to turn on the Care Switch™️.
You care or you don’t. It comes from the heart.
Wow, you’re right! I never fully perceived that before. “Hard sell” in Scientology EQUATES to “caring” about the person. Hard sell IS caring. And so it follows that in Scientology, if one “soft sells”, one does not care!
This always grated on me somewhat but I sort of understood the viewpoint. Sort of.
What really drove me wild was the Birthday Game, wherein one not only HAD to sell but HAD TO SELL BY THURSDAY AT 2PM!
This I 100% HATED. It was, frequently so NOT caring of the person, so blatantly NOT GIVING A DAMN about the person in front of you!
This person say’s he/she will buy (whatever it is) but needs a few more days because the check is coming in, the loan is coming thru, etc. etc., whatever. The person is obviously sincere; one can SEE that. The person is 100% in agreement with you, totally WITH you and one can SEE that. Ok, so WORK with the person, make him or her right, keep the ARC in, let the person buy the damned book or service or make the fucking donation in a few days…right?
Ooooooh, no! Nononononono 100 x NO! HAS to be tonite! Has to be NOW! Now, now now now now!
“Can you put it on a credit card? Let’s see if we can increase your limit so that we can get it done right now! Can you BORROW IT from your mother/father/boyfriend/girlfriend/friend/sister/brother/garbageman etc. etc. etc….? How can we make this go right so that this gets done right now? Let’s DISAGREE with the physical universe and blow out all the stops AND GET THIS DONE RIGHT NOW…”
Oh My Freakin’ God.
If ANYTHING convinced me that the person regging me did not give a tinker’s damn about me , it was THIS.
I’m in sales. If and/or when I have a person ready, willing and able to avail themselves of my services, someone obviously WITH me, who shares the need for some more time because of so and so, who is RIGHT THERE WITH ME and giving me his/her SOLUTION tto how its all going to happen and how he/she is going to work with me – I would NEVER in a million years damage the rapport between this prospect and myself, sully the trust, create anxiety in the person etc. by carrying on like an inmate in an asylum that, NO, it all has to happen NOW NOW NOW… because of some arbitrary time limit I’ve set up for the completion of the transaction, that does not take into consideration the needs of the person in front of me! I mean, slit my throat! I would never do that! No one in their right mind, in the business world, in the real world, would behave this way! One might much prefer for one’s OWN reasons that the “sale” occur right away, but when one has a “live one” in front of one, one WORKS WITH the live one, doesn’t one?
Whew what a rant this morphed into. Well, it did drive me nuts, back in the day. I used to feel so invalidated. “Don’t you BELIEVE me?”, I’d ask them. “I told you by next Monday and I’m not lying to you! I promise!”
Well, no, sorry. Now now now.
And today I can articulate the depressed, kind of hopeless feeling I got back then when I experienced this kind of treatment. I couldn’t put it into words then but I can now: they didn’t give a damn about ME…it was their stat. I mean, duh 🙂 But at the time I guess I wanted to believe they cared about me. Qu’elle idiote moi 🙂
Isn’t this just the same old drill that stopped being very effective about half a century ago – when the streets ceased being full of young baby boomer “seekers” looking for something (including the draft exemption being a Scientology “minister” conferred) or almost anything, some so credulous and gullible they would even literally get in vans with strangers? (several groups actually got people that way, taken off the streets to “retreats”)
The thing that concerns me is that with so many people at home, and searching for answers or even desperate, with an increasing number falling for various sorts of pseudo-science and conspiracy theories, Scientology might actually manage to snag some people.
Scientology just might snag some people if Miscavige could figure out how to properly position the religion. We are all fortunate that he is so dumb and ignorant. There is always a small group of Occult tendency people in every generation. Scientology could attract these people with the proper approach. But to our great advantage Hubbard left the religion with no ability to form leaders or re-position itself. They are a lot like Catholics with the Pope. Change is difficult.
george, at this point with all the info at everyone’s fingertips only the terminally IQ deficient or the mentally ill would join scamology. No matter what marketing mumbo-jumbo flowed.
Wynski, under NORMAL circumstances I agree with you completely. No one in his or her right mind would join Scientology, given the wealth of negative information at their fingertips.
BUT!.. when/if they’re hopeless, depressed, feeling completely overwhelmed, powerless, lonely, believing there’s no help anywhere, etc., there ARE those otherwise sane people who can and sometimes do grasp on to the most amazing cons, become vulnerable to the most transparent lies, susceptible to most obvious bullshit, when its offered in the name of “help”. Only because they need SOME kind of answer, some kind of solution. And very likely such a person is experiencing that no one cares, who can “do something about it.” And if there’s ONE thing the Scamologists are good at, its “mocking up” a truly concerned and caring demeanor when they want something from somebody. They DRILL doing this – projecting caring and concern – key word being “projecting” which could be a synonym for “acting”.
That’s why I opined that there may well be SOME – I honestly don’t believe MANY – but a small few who might be reached and come on board – for a while. But soon enough these susceptible ones will be reg’ged by the Scamologists mercilessly, hounded to donate money they don’t have or need for their bills…they’ll be dealing with the avalanche of calls and emails that all Still Ins except the NOI deal with, and these recent “raw public” will fall away and start reading and/or believing what they’ve already read and ignored about the cult out of their desperation for a solution.
This is my opinion only. And I really hope I’m 100% wrong and that whilst dealing with Covid and job loss etc., NO ONE new is roped in by the cult no matter how temporarily.
George, I’m concerned that they’ll snag some with mundane angles, like the ‘purif’ held out as a cure for the after-effects of COVID-19 and, maybe eventually, for having been vaccinated (we can already see that is going to stir up hornet’s nest of pseudo-scientific belief). That would be similar to Narconon’s treatment claims, and also what worked for the CofS for a while promoting management “tech” to dentists, chiropractors and other pseudo-medical practitioners.
I have trouble imagining how they could figure out a “religious” or spiritual angle that would work in this day and age, unless they really began to abandon Hubbard’s doctrines and policies and somehow took pages from the playbooks of the likes of Teal Swan and Falun Gong – examples of what gains tractions nowadays, so far from Scientology that I think it illustrates the terminal problem the CofS faces. My take is that Miscavige is doing the best he can with what the hand he was dealt, which is to remaining one of the few surviving groups from its era, by fiercing holding on to what few members it still has, and extracting the maximum amount of work and money possible from each of them.
If they do snag a few, it might be like the scenario with “Heaven’s Gate”. That was a totally screwed up group waiting for a space ship which they were supposed to meet. I have a feeling that Scientology might end up in a similar but different situation. Like at the battle of Waterloo Napoleon’s private guard would not surrender. They were loyal to the end. A few OT VIII’s might get together and invent some sort of story about Hubbard’s “location” in space. I studied Heaven’s Gate and these were really dedicated people reading the Bible literally. They wanted to be unique, different and out of the universe I think that is how Scientology will end.
George, I suspect that at some point when the wheels really start to come off the CofS, there will be some ultra-orthodox splinter that could go a direction like that. And “Capt.” Bill Robertson’s Galactic Patrol did start down the road of outer space insanity while he was still alive.
It seems to me that the CofS itself will be probably be held together almost indefinitely by a few diehards, attorneys and accountants, milking it for all it’s worth. Unless they get in some existential fight with government and the law – who I suspect will at least chip away at their wealth, as they weaken – my guess is that it will end with a whimper, not a bang.
p.s. Sorry about that last bit of the earlier reply, it must have been auto-correct gone haywire or something.
You’re right, Peacemaker, they might be able to snag a few. But it won ‘t last. The Cult of Greed won’t be able to restrain itself for long. Scores of millions of Americans are out of work. Even those who are susceptible won’t take well to being hit up for money that has to be received by Thursday at 2PM. I’d worry if I thought them capable of maintaining the “true caring” facade that worked on me back in the day. The “caring for the being in front of you” thing that got raw public in 30-40 years ago. But the cult is not capable of that anymore. They don’t have the patience for that anymore. Quickly they’ll show their true intentions, i.e., money and the Birthday Game. Raw public will be turned off and they’ll fall away.
Hello Aqua,
Under these conditions, I get the feeling the twerp just might go overboard and do something that just might land him where he belongs – wherever that may be. I forsee that he will soon have steam shooting out of his ears as he demands MORE MONEY. All the time, MORE MONEY.
But there is no more money at this time. Instead of understanding this and backing off, …. well …. backing off is not in his bat shit crazy nature and he just may go overboard and finally do something that will cause the people around him to conclude, “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”. At least I sure do hope so.
I just realized something; the REAL problem, the ONLY problem the cult has and that is that they DON’T care.
Caring is their only true power. They’re in the “business” of HELPING, they say.
If they cared, if they truly cared, honestly cared and wanted to help, OR if they were PERMITTED to operate only on caring and help, that would be their power and it would be irresistible.
When someone experiences true caring, it is POWERFUL.
It might take a LOT of patience, but true caring IS patient.
It might take a lot of time and not happen on schedule, but true caring is not operating on a schedule!
Getting thru to someone to trust and accept help takes what it takes, that’s all.
But once this concept gets thru, however long it takes – WOW!
There’s incredible trust established. And a truly caring helper or help group would never abuse or violate that trust. NEVER! Because you can’t help someone without their permission and you don’t GET their permission if they don’t trust you.
Boy, would that kind of group eventually become a super power!
If they only cared, for real.
But the powers that be in Scientology do NOT care, nor do many of the Still In Scientologists.
And unfortunately the Still Ins who DO care , be they staff, Sea Org or public, are not permitted to operate – for long – on “caring for the being in front of you”.
“Caring” is only to rope someone in.
And thus the cult dissipates its power, its only power.
Caring is hard to fake. You can’t MAKE yourself care. You either do or you don’t. Shakespeare said it like this: “The quality of mercy is unstrained…” I forget the rest, but he’s saying you can’t force this quality.
Ok, just musing out loud. The end 🙂
The reason they can’t do them anymore is they haven’t slept in a week and are close to being psychotic. They have not been allowed to sleep until they have made their quota.
In the last year that I was on the Freewinds with full-blown AIDS which was undiagnosed the Air Conditioning went out during Maiden Voyage. The 1st day of Maiden Voyage speech was always done by the dwarfenfuehrer. The 2nd day’s speech in 2001 was done by the Captain Freewinds. He gave a speech that had been written for him months earlier up at Int and it went on about how we had just installed this new ” State of the Art Air Conditioning system. It was a lie as it was not fully installed; the electrical starter box for it had not yet arrived. But the electricians that night had to connect the power to one of the existing units and so had to shut it off. When they tried to start it back up it blew the main circuit breakers in the Control Room. They spent the entire next day trying to figure out what was wrong with it. They had the Golden Era electricians and the ones from the FLB CMO Ship and many execs down there trying to handle this flap. It made the Captain Freewinds into a liar as everone on the ship was sweating like pigs starting right after he told everyone about the new “State of the Art System. (Continued)
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The problem turned out to be a 10 dollar timer which we had in stock. The electrician had not done the maintenance on the starter box as he was off post writing POs for renos. I had changed the bearings on the big electric motor that year as he could not find the time.
Now, the Captain had just been found to be a liar by everyone aboard as the ship had been hot all day. The electric box had just arrived and one of my juniors was doing a welding job so it could be installed. I had been up all night and the next day and I had terminal AIDS which was undiagnosed. At about 3 AM I asked the Chief Engineer if I could get an hours rest as I was totally useless anyway; if I stood in one spot my legs would buckle and I would fall down. This was denied; I had to keep going until the job was finished. I went down there and walked back and forth in the engine room for some hours; doing no useful work, but just complying to the order. I became determined to get the job done so that they could push the start button and have it explode and kill us all; in other words I had become insane. So do not wonder how these staff that gave their lives to save the world steal your money to get their quota; they have been driven insane like I was.
In around 1980 I was FSO staff and the Iraq- Iran war had just started. All staff had to do the Ministers Course and become ordained Ministers. If we failed to get it done we would be sent to the RPF. I did not make the target but eventually finished the course and became an ordained minister of the Church. Nobody said another word about in in the next 21 years I was in the Sea Org. By then I was the one that needed a priest. ( I was all but dead from AIDS I got from a blood transfusion in the Freewinds home port, Curacao. I had heard that the reason we all had to so the course is because they were afraid that we would be drafted and sent to war.
Instead, being exempt as ministers of the Church, we were cannon fodder for the Church. The result for me was the same; I was as good as dead.
What a story! Thank you for sharing. Mike Rinder thank you for this blog!
Peacemaker, it’s the same old, same old that DIDN’T work about 50-60 years ago
This ridiculous ‘dissemination‘ drill would be an excellent Regraded Being Strip. It reads like one anyway. I was playing in my head what I would say and do if I got ‘disseminated’ to in this manner. No one and I mean absolutely NO ONE would stand there like a sheep while this self styled FSM is leading them by the nose through these intro courses. My favorite part of the whole drill…don’t discuss finances or the cost of courses just route them to the REG who is well skilled in how to ‘handle’ anyone trying to weasel out of taking …er… I mean paying for a course.
Linear13 offered:
“This ridiculous ‘dissemination‘ drill would be an excellent Regraded Being Strip. ”
And FUNNY!
Joe i had forgot all these stuff. C/S serie 53, L4RB etc. Wow….
I think impinging is not the word they meant to use….
im·pinge
/imˈpinj/
verb
gerund or present participle: impinging
have an effect or impact, especially a negative one.
“Nora was determined that the tragedy would impinge as little as possible on Constance’s life”
The screen shot should show her face…Pen, Book, and Screen shot all match the color Yellow. Different colored pen’s in pen holder.It appears she is right handed, but the coffee cup handle is in the wrong position….All phony hype…
The glasses aren’t hers either. Would any woman wear glasses like that?
I cover this very subject today in this interview with Ron Miscavige !
I could not explain it more clearly !
In today’s video, I answer the age old question,:
WHY DO PEOPLE GET LURED IN TO THE CULT ?
How do they get recruits ? What is the technique ?
The technique is quite CUNNING.
It makes the newbie explain in great depth what they WANT
(and also what they DON’T WANT (the ruin)
Then the cult sells them the pitch they can give or provide what they want
I explain more here ~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sles_l_fjw8&t=138s
Aren’t there enough celebrities to occupy Pams time ? Instead she’s organizing and promoting the Friends and Family plan ? It reeks of desperation.
“Reeks” is such a great word that applies to so many aspects of this scam.
1. Pretend to care
2. Find their ruin
3. Don’t let them escape
4. Don’t let them escape!
5. Force them to sign up without reading the T&Cs
6. Nag them to complete (actual use of the word ‘ruin’ – nice)
7. Up sell Hubbard books and courses. Yes. *nod*. That’s right. Get their agreement. Ah uh.
8. Profit!
9. Hand them over to the Registrar who will get all their financial information and commence the Fleecing Process.
When I was in college, it was the Christian cults and Hare Krishnas that claimed to love me and wanted to help me out of whatever hell they believed I was immersed in. That sort of thing coming from total strangers was creepy. On the other hand,when people I knew did it, it was just annoying. My reaction in either case was usually, “Get out of my face!”
Yet Scn manged to penetrate through my natural BS defenses. How? I know the answer, because I learned the procedure. But it’s still a bit uncomfortable to consider the insidious nature of it all. Fortunately however, there are hardly any true believers out there nowadays who have studied, trained, and drilled Hubbard’s mind control techniques. Attending seminars, reading a few Hubbard platitudes, and going to Scn pep rallies is a poor substitute for the aggressive indoctrination that was once the standard regimen. They sure don’t make fanatics they way they used to. Hey, we were delusional airheads too, but at least we knew our shit.
Ha, ha, eons ago, I lived across from the hare krishna temple in Boston. They had a “free” vegetarian “love feast” every Sunday, and the meal was actually quite good (better than the pizza slices and subs I was dining on every night). They hustled you up for a “donation” before you could get out the door, though. They were always nickel and dining me for something or other, but now I have to laugh, comparing it scientology’s never-ending, deadly hustle.
One thing I’ll say about the Christians the time I got saved in Palo Alto: they never hustled me for chump change. In fact, they fed me many times and gave me some work and a place to stay when I needed it.
The Buddhist meditation group I go to never puts the bite on me. You put money in the basket if you want; nothing is ever said about it. I always leave something in appreciation – but I don’t have to.
At least if you went to one of the Hare Krishna gatherings on a Sunday afternoon, after hearing and watching some music and dancing, you’d get a pretty good free vegetarian meal.
I was once approached by a recruiter for the Moonies on the Nicollet Mall, she asked me if I believed in Jesus Christ, and I said no, I was an atheist, she then thanked me for my time and went away. Up to that time I really believed that a cult, like the Unification Church, would grab me from the street.
othereles, you were lucky the Moonies didn’t use some of their more aggressive recruiting techniques on you. they were known for using persuasive techniques to get people into vans to go check out a weekend retreat – where recruits would be love bombed and sleep deprived, put to work on what they were told were urgent missions and kept away from telephones so they couldn’t contact their families.
Parents were absolutely frantic that children were in some cases virtually disappearing off the streets without a trace. I’ve read one account about parents who figured out the retreat location and showed up. only to be told their child wasn’t there – it was only when they they became insistent and were shown the dormitory as supposed proof, but recognized personal belongings and threatened to call the police, that the cult produce the missing youth.
Chris, I find it interesting that you think that Scientologists just aren’t fervent enough believers, to successfully recruit people anymore. But what about the old-timers?
And do you think other things may have changed as well? I’ve seen accounts of “body routers” who literally couldn’t even keep up with all the people on the streets who were interesting in checking out Scientology – which wouldn’t seem to require much persuasion – back in the heyday of baby boomer “seekers.” I’ve also read stories of those lured in because they believed a revolution was immininent or were literally looking for a way to change the world, and even bought into Hubbard’s claims of the time that the planet had less than 5 years left unless something was done. It seems to me that when Scientology was able to be successful at recruiting, it was in a rather different environment.
Can’t believe Pam Lancaster is still there doing what she does.
I wonder what would happen to her brain if she were to do an honest evaluation of a simple fact:
Quite likely over the years as many as 5 million people have walked in the door of some Co$ organization somewhere in the world yet only about 15 to 20 thousand are currently actively engaged with it.
Why have so many people rejected your group, Pam?
They blew from their own overts is what Pam will say because she has been brainwashed to think that.
Yea, Pamela Lancaster has been around forever. I knew her as a reg in the 70’s at C.C. I actually got her crammed once. I wrote a K.R. on her for yelling at me as a public..(She kept trying to reg me for something or other), and I just kept saying no. She finally got real upset and yelled at me, saying I was Dev-Ting her and her staff. I basically said fuck you and left. Then I wrote the K.R.
LDW, I suspect all-time numbers are a bit lower. Looking at CF counts, which seem to run about 20,000 to 30,000 per org on average from the appeals for help with filing we’ve seen here, multiplied by about 135 orgs worldwide that would come to something over 3 million (about a third of that in just the US) – with a lot of room to argue over whether it is overly generous and includes too many people, such as those who gave their address at a stress table set up somewhere; or not enough, because it doesn’t account for missions, and other activity prior to the establishment of the orgs that exist today. Maybe because of possible corrections both ways, it’s still a pretty good ballpark.
It’s indeed a very telling inconvenient truth, that Scientology has had contact with so many people but is actually connected with so very few of them. Just the dead weight central files of the orgs, which they have trouble scraping up and cajoling enough active members to even be able to reorganize, highlights the incongruity – and it’s perhaps also telling of those who remain, that the members who work on those projects, apparently aren’t too disturbed by the contradiction literally right in front of them.
$cientology wants everyone to be ‘nagware’ and hound the prospective new meat until someone pays for an internet course and then the reg and staff will lead them by the nose to the clamist {promised} land. Anyone who actually does this is going to be bereft of friends and family very quickly.
What happened to body routing and ‘personality testing’? This is not a return to the good old days of Dianetics where everyone could make money auditing and riding the fad of Dianetics. It is a certain way to completely isolate everyone who tries to ‘disseminate’.
I see a complete breakdown of mOrg functions. Take the thermometer out, this turkey is done.
Scamology “cures” everything. EXCEPT for Scamology. The worst disease.
Oh boy, where to even start unpacking this one…
I guess it’s really not necessary to go beyond the first step here. The scientologist is supposed to let their mark know that they really CARE about them. That is a non-starter. It’s total bullshit. This is loaded with agenda. The ONLY reason the scientologist is asking after their mark is to get them through steps 2 thru 12. Especially step 8 where the real purpose is unveiled. Acquiring money from the hapless mark. In fact, the subsequent steps are only there to acquire MORE money from the mark. In scientology it is all about the money and only about the money. Always has been, always will be. You can take that one to the bank.
Unfortunately, this little dissemination drill is not unique to scientology. Most cults use some version of it. It’s a way to prey on people when they are vulnerable. In my opinion, if a real friend sincerely cares and talks to someone who is having difficulties, that is a huge and can make someone feel much better about whatever situation they are in. It’s not the be all and end all solution but it certainly lets the other person know that they are not alone and someone truly cares. No cult necessary.
Ms B. You are just right. Real help is for free. Otherwise it must be called ‘exchange’.
And then one has to see what kind of exchange is being delivered to him.
Ms.B,
Thank you for your comment, which just made me realize that the biggest reason I was awful at selling Scientology was that I found it impossible to pretend to care when I didn’t, and equally impossible to pretend not to care when I did 🙂
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No, no, no Pam,
You have it wrong. You MUST use Source’s own words. Straight out of 60 years ago in order to be On Source! Damn squirrling has got to stop. HCOB’s or nothing.
Joe and Lullu Bell Wog are clamoring to hear and read the great ElRon hisself. Do not be a via to Source.
I recommend extended quotes from the PDC lectures.
This list is funny because nobody trying to use it is going to get past step 2 or 3 at best. The kind of Scientologist eager to disseminate is either going to have no colleagues outside the church to disseminate to anyway, or all their acquaintances are already extremely aware of their membership in the church, and any dissemination targets will immediately find an excuse to go shampoo their goldfish the second they hear anything about the CoS or LRH or even “this cool website with videos that can help you”. People are generally pretty good at knowing when they’re getting sold something they don’t need, and doubly so when it comes to a religion.
“No, I don’t want to learn how to posture.”
Reminds me of the ‘Snake Oil’ salesman in ‘The Outlaw Jose Wales’…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sh0wr7HH8Y
FWIW, I tweeted today’s story as:
How to make money using free online #Scientology Volunteer Minister courses to recruit people into #Scientology to do paid courses
https://twitter.com/ISNOINews/status/1269997595067383809
I believe that summary is accurate, particularly given steps 8 and 12.
Perfect summary
Darn it, I did have a typo. I meant to refer to sreps 8 and 11, not 8 and 12. At least I didn’t have a typo in my tweet.
Sorry but I haven’t make it to read the entire letter from Pam so full of juicy advices. I got lack of something.
Nothing new, it is the same old dissemination tech. And if didn’t worked up to now, well was the person’s fault of course. So boring and repetitive.
By the way they made a marketing error here. The photo. Wrong sub message. A cult member could unconsciously think that the girl has some evident ‘misunderstood word’ phenomena and her face says that she’s about to “blow” somewhere else.
Or “How to prey on family and friends”… Sickening
This is not only O/T but may also be a bit esoteric. I ask that people be patient and bear with me. I think the following tweet is significant both because it raises an important philosophical point and because it is published in Arabic.
Twitter thread in Arabic by qamqr – قمر makes an insightful observation regarding the non-“deniability” (i.e., non-falsifiability) of Scientology a la Karl Popper.
https://twitter.com/qamqr8/status/1269468614874345474
* * * * * BEGIN TWITTER TRANSLATION * * * * *
Principles of science have been described by scientists and doctors as false science. Perhaps their evidence for that stems from the philosophy of science that says that any theory based on any type of metaphysical superiority is not deniable and on this basis it is not a science (according to Popper).
* * * * * END TWITTER TRANSLATION * * * * *
(“Principles of science” should probably be translated as “Principles of Scientogy” for the tweet to make sense, particularly in the context of the thread.)
ESMB Redux thread:
https://exscn2.net/threads/twitter-thread-in-arabic-by-qamqr-%D9%82%D9%85%D8%B1-makes-insightful-observation-regarding-non-falsifiability-of-scientology-a-la-karl-popper.1403/
References:
Falsifiability:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
Karl.Popper:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/
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Dear Pamela,
What a TOTALLY wuss way of disseminating!
I’m an old school Scientologist. Know how I do it?
I freaking just assess a 53 right there and then, don’t even explain it. Just have the damn thing ready and start assessing. No, I don’t use an E-meter fercryinoutloud, I just start impinging and wait for a slight flinch. On the phone, I listen for an intake of breath or any other change (and of course I only take up INSTANT flinches or instant sounds on the phone, gotta be standard, baby.) And then I take up the first “read” as soon as it happens. You hope int doesn’t read, but what the hell you gonna do if it does? What it is is what it is.
Last week did this on my sister in law over the phone . Pulled out the 53, got an “instant groan” on out list and so pulled out an L4 and assessed that. Got an “instant sigh” on her item being on the list and reconstructed “what cereal should I start my 3 year old on?” Cheerios was the only reading item on the list ( got an “instant chuckle”), I indicated it to her, VVGIs and yesterday she bought her Purif, SRD, and Levels package right here in Battle Creek. We’re working on getting her to Flag for her Ls as soon as this covid hoax is over.
Easy Peezy. But forget that VMH BS and extension courses. You gotta handle their out int, lists and withholds right off the damn bat. Just dive in and get your theta hands dirty.
Much too much love*,
JP
*I’m a too much love love machine baby. When’s your next tour to Michigan?
Joe, you are soooooooo right on!!! Pamela Pantywaist is such a dilettante when it comes to getting the vital job of disseminating the Tech to raw meat wogs. There’s nothing like a good ‘ol 53 to get a little TA movement. The sooner wogs are transformed into Scientologists and rocket up the Bridge via the Reg’s office the better. If it were me, I would not even bother worrying about this Covid hoax, global bullbaiting bullshit. I’d route my selectees straight to Flag so they can get taken care of properly and I get my FSM commission. I’d just make sure they get plenty of Ethics handling to make sure that they aren’t even remotely PTS. Extra Sec Checks along the way are vital to keep the Suppression at bay. No PTS = no Covid. It IS a hoax anyway.
Keep up the good work Joe and you’re sure to get a commendation from Capt’n COB hisself!!!!!
ml, ARC, KSW, KRC, KR, CSW, f/n, VGIs, and KR (can’t get enough of those),
Ms. B. Haven
Mrs. H, I’m writing a KR on myself right now. Like to beat people to the punch on those. I found out that if I wrote a whole bunch on myself in a month, the Ethics Officer didn’t know whether he was coming or going, he was so rattled. But what really does the trick is writing a commendation chit on yourself. And if you attach a blown out success story to it, with a copy to COB, you’re gold. No one can touch you.
Honestly. I tried. I tried to read this from the viewpoint of someone still calling themselves a scientologist, but I just can’t.
I want to vomit.