This is quite surreal.
Here is a scientologist, conducting a “seminar” in a scientology org, to attract interest in his services of “keeping people out of the hands of psychiatry.” Like Lisa McPherson was kept out of the hands of psychiatry?
There are two things about this that boggle the mind:
First, every scientologist is required to sign an agreement in order to be allowed to take ANY services, that states they do NOT want to be in the hands of psychiatry and instead choose to undergo an introspection rundown. This is an excerpt from that agreement — you can find a copy of the complete agreement at Jeffrey Augustine’s excellent blog.
Second, there is NO alternative offered. Since Lisa McPherson, it is forbidden to deliver Introspection Rundowns in any scientology organization. So, we will “keep you out of the hands of psychiatry” but we don’t offer you ANYTHING at all other than to “take vitamins and CalMag” and “look at a rock.” These people ate designated ILLEGAL PC’s and it is ironclad Hubbard policy that they may not participate in scientology auditing.
But this is pretty typical of the black and white, single track view of scientologists. Hubbard says psychiatry is bad, so we do not need to think any more about it, or look at the outcomes or alternatives to our radical position. Literally, they would rather someone end up dead than in the hands of psychiatry. That is how radical they are.
Yes indeed, what’s the alternative? Think of some of the street people we see, talking to themselves and maybe the voices in their head, or even ranting and yelling at others or something invisible. How are people like that, plus those who may be similarly detached from reality but just less outward in the manifestations of their mental problems, to be handled in settings like courts – or hospitals, where they also often end up including for issues other than mental ones?
As a volunteer, I’ve dealt with mentally ill homeless people whose behavior was creating an imminent severe risk to their health and life. We actually need more intervention for the most severely afflicted, but the movement decades ago against institutionalization – which Scientology had some small part in – ended some abuses that needed addressing, but went too far and left the worst off out on their own when they need more structure.
I can understand that there are people sort of in the middle, who might want flexible treatment options other than psychiatry. But that’s a nuanced, different discussion.
Mike was there on the Apollo madship guarding the door behind which Hubbard had imprisoned some poor soul in a small cabin with one porthole as his only contact with the world. He was having some sort of mental state during which he exhibited extreme anger.
Could he have been angry at being locked up in a cabin on an ocean-going ship, with no access to the larger world outside?
I doubt if the drugs and treatments available to psyches of that era would have done a lot better than Hubbard’s “lock ’em up in solitary confinement” treatment. The results of using it on Lisa McPherson point to a truly horrible and deadly medieval torture done due by ignorant, unthinking, unfeeling blind followers of the scribblings of Hubbard.
The big difference between the rantings of a malignant narcissist like Hubbard, and those who practice under the rules of science, is that science tries to diligently and accurately observe events, test hypothesis as to the causes and effects, and validate the results rigorously many times in many ways before saying “here is something new in the world.” On any day a new test of the hypotheses may validate or question earlier results, and thus the known world expands by critical questioning.
“No critical questioning of Hubbard’s edicts is allowed.” That is Scientology in a nutshell.
Since that event on the Apollo true scientists have examined the effects of solitary confinement, of forced isolation, of severe shunning, and found the effects to be very demeaning to the human spirit, and to be harmful to the isolated person both in the short and long term.
Poor Mike. With his family’s blessing he travels halfway around the world to train to be an “executive’. but ends up sitting on a hard chair in a narrow corridor, on watch to make sure the monster behind the locked door would not escape.
Every account from those days shows the Apollo under Hubbard was a madship run by a madman.
The Quakers tried solitary confinement in the early 1800’s and found it drove prisoners batty. With Hubbard’s all-knowing all-seeing big beingness one wonders if he even looked around the physical universe from time to time.
From 2002, says a lot for Kretchmar –
https://www.semissourian.com/story/96469.html
These also inspire confidence in his ability and credibility –
https://www.linkedin.com/in/randy-kretchmar-a58ba71a
https://www.lawyer.com/firm/kretchmar-and-cecala-pc.html
I wonder how many of his “following” and “followers” are real?
https://twitter.com/mentalhealthlaw?lang=en
Another basement dweller who can’t survive outside $camology, what a surprise.
Great letter from James Beebe! He deserves an award.
Scientologists hateful of psychiatry never reveal Scientologists’ secret exorcism beliefs.
https://www.semissourian.com/story/96469.html
The broad public needs to know Scientology means exorcism, OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are exorcism of alien spirits which Scientologists get taught infest our human bodies and can only be removed doing Scientology secret OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism steps.
And Xenu dumped these messed up spirits onto earth which infest all humans today.
My Illegal PC status first cropped up in 1987 (a long story). But I petitioned the powers-that-be
to restore my status. For reasons that were never explained, the Church revoked that status in 1999. I tried to petition again, but this time it was rejected. Whatever changed between the first and second time was a complete mystery.
I was now in a situation for which there was no official remedy. Nobody in the Church could promise me my status would ever again be restored. There was no technical procedure that would upgrade my classification. Indeed, Church policy states, “Any promise made by an org to such a person [Illegal PC] or his relatives is not binding upon an organization or its staff…”
It was the turning point in my eventual exit. How could it not?
I admit, at 21, I went into scientology pretty deluded and mostly illiterate but by 1996 (at 44) I was a heartbroken mess. By 2007 I blew in my Van in even worse shape.
By 2010 I was fully overwhelmed and phoned the ‘Church’ for help.
Did the ‘Church’ send help to an OT4 Patron who had served 20 years in the Sea Org (with a history of having a Treasury with all Power points in, permanently posted, crew fully paid and uniformed for 5 years not to mention solvent and with 80,000 in reserves? Oh and I saved our AMEX account – we could take AMEX without a break as of 1996)?
Nope!
Had to do it myself the tuff way with my new ‘wog’ friends for support and no instructions except for my worn out copy of Pab 6 😂
By 2016 I’d tossed my Pab 6 for LRHs Affirmations!
That cured me for good 👍
I’ve found Mike Rinder’s book A Billion Years to be difficult to read.
Get the Audio perhaps? I also haven’t read mine yet its sitting next to me for a few months.
Yes, a truthful narrative of Scientology’s practices, behavior & treatment of people is not exactly a pleasant read.
Scientology engages in some of the most abhorrent of human behavior and manipulation. I’ve been around the block a few times and got some scars along the way but have never experienced anything like the depth of the lies, deception and backstabbing that Scientology accepts as its operating “truth.” The average Scientologist can’t see that, they are hypnotized by their own desires and loyalty being played against them. The Scientologist who sees injustices and knows something is wrong but does nothing is a study of the darker side of human overwhelm, obedience, fear, selfishness and the non recognition of responsibility. I’ll give Hubbard one thing, his appreciation of the dangers of apathy. If I was to apply ‘so called’ Scientology to it, that’s the tone level I reckon Scientologists actually dramatize, all the while displaying a manic enthusiasm for a false technology. Getting a Scientologist to see the truth and wake up, tough as that may be, proves it to me, along with all their empty buildings. But at least they can go up from there. It’s a journey many of us took as I see it.
Any sane person imo should be repulsed to some degree by an honest report of it.
Was it difficult to read because the story was emotionally draining and heart breaking at times, or difficult because it’s beyond your reading level? If it’s the first you just have to soldier through. If it’s the second, start with something easier and work your way up to it.
It was a difficult read because it was heartbreaking.
Yes, it is…
I hated signing all these undreadable un-understandable (in their implications and ramifications) legal docs to be in Scientology.
It’s one of the big reasons never to do Scientology within the official group that require these.
it’s another reason niche lawyers will work for Scientology, it’s gravy train money for them, and fits legally; and thus PIs who are willing for doing that and get their gravy train.
But, for practitioners, it’s a giving up of their rights to fuller trying practices in the world.
Signing away legally one’s rights to do other practices, is just insane.
Screw the full bore Hubbard institutionalized whackjob Scientology straitjacket of doing the Hubbard road to freedom, with the legal help of society. Scientologists are allowed only to do nutty Scientology to fix their “spiritual” problems, considered to be Hubbard fixable only.
Imagine if other legitimate religions had you sign legal docs before you did their services?
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Hubbard the “writer” demanding that his audience/followers only do his stuff, and using legal means to shut down their rights to choose other paths. The ultimate spoiled writer dictator wishing to dominate his audience and doubling down that his practice is the best in the world and cut off the followers from other practices that the followers wish to try.
Hubbard was an unselfrecognized selfish wannabe dominating nutter.
I didn’t like signing all that crap either.
So, one time I told the registrar to give it all to me and I’d take it home, read through it all, sign and bring it back.
All my years in studying law made me very diligent and protective.
I scratched out many sentences, clauses and words in the contracts, waivers and agreements and then took em back to the registrar. I signed them in front of him and had him do so too. The fact he did without reading any of it told me he thought they were all garbage anyway. And so I didn’t waive any rights and never agreed to arbitration by signing what I was asked to agree with. The reg only wanted my money and for me to start service. His stats would be up and that is all that mattered. Stupid, despicable money lusting cult!
Incredible! Me, I was pre-smoked to believe the “tech” (the Hubbard quackery) was going to make everyone who stuck to the bitter end, would be spiritually amped up to OT status.
The supernatural carrot overpowered all the downsides.
Good for you, and the Reg knew getting your money was what management also wanted most, and would let the legal p’s and q’s sputter unfulfilled. (Upstats have their ethics reports filed with a yawn, no action taken on them.)
Hahaha ha! I did the same thing, Glenn. I even used key word clearing on them for parts of the document I didn’t want to sign so that they would understand my reluctance. Then they would look the other way while I crossed out and initialed sections so that they could get a “start”. I always felt that them insisting on those paranoid “releases” “waivers” only
demonstrated a lack of confidence in their own product delivery.
Karl,
You make an EXCELLENT point! It makes total sense to me. The cult’s insistence that we all sign all those releases and waivers truly does demonstrate the unreliability of their services.
There seems to be a consistent theme in the Rube Goldberg theological machine that is scientology where the mechanics just break down. As his pseudo-religious system grew in meaningless complexity, L. Ron Hubbard missed quite a number of those important “Connect-the-Dot” principles that would have made his philosophy coherent throughout. I asked ChatGPT if Scientology could be considered a Rube Goldberg religion. It was an interesting interview.
https://cutt.ly/cwqSHBTg
Windows gives me a hazard warning trying to connect to that url:
“This site can’t provide a secure connection”
Generally, it’s public wifi that’s the culprit. I get the same thing at my library and the local Barnes & Noble. What I end up doing is turning my iPhone into a hotspot … problem solved for now. Checking in with hosting platform for a solution. Thanks for checking in.
Randy Kretchmar has been an OSA spy for decades.
He is THE OSA asset of Chicago.
He is also a whale.
Who are the Whales ..that give MILLIONs (over and over)
Google SCIENTOLOGY WHALES mega donors
Scientology’s version of the straight jacket, sign here… What a disgusting document.
I much prefer being a designated SP in Scientology’s books. Trust Hubbard & Miscavige? Yeah right! What a great track record they have on human rights and trafficking. What a horror of thing to contemplate signing.
It dawned on me reading the entries to this blog post the simplicity of diversionary tactics.
This moron of an attorney in Scientology’s pocket and his lecture just reinforces to the sheeple of the Chicago Org and to all Scientologists everywhere that there is an enemy “at their gates” that needs immediate attention to repel. The ‘us vs them’ mentality. Gives the group purpose and unites them, but also introverts them.
Hubbard did it for decades with his attacks on psychiatry, medicine and anyone else who had power or alternative intelligence, but so does any corrupt regime as it targets or creates an enemy to keep their constituents occupied, coupled with countless rules and harsh discipline. It diverts attention away from their real agendas and minimizes themselves being exposed for their corruption, coups, thrown into prison or stood up in front of a wall.
Scientology has worn that tactic out but literally don’t have alternatives. Hubbard’s playbook and Miscavige’s insanity are all they have. Hubbard took it to extreme lengths in his delusions of grandeur by crowning himself “source.” Ground Hog Day Scientology style.
It’s interesting both Hubbard and especially Miscavige never saw the internet coming and the effect it would have. Into a security bunker he dove and surrounded himself with lawyers. Every shadow a threat.
And this is why Mike Rinder, Tony Ortega, J. Swift, and numerous others have taken up the cause to put a stop to the cult’s abuses.
Yep. They, and they alone, have the only workable tech for the mind. They forbid you should seek any other therapy. They can cure ANY mental illness. But they will not deliver the processes that will cure the insane—- because they saw that their therapy kills. God forbid they would harm anyone.
Hip Hip Who-barf!