In isolation this is certainly a worthwhile cause.
In the context of it being another scientology front group, raising yet more money to restore human rights, it is horrible.
If you read this it talks about villages in India being “enslaved” through “fabricated debt, intimidation, isolation and denied education.”
Anne, Donna and Vanessa, here’s a clue: you don’t need to look on the other side of the world. Anne, you especially HAVE been to the Gold Base in unincorporated Riverside County (not Hemet).
If you care to LOOK, you will find:
Fabricated debt — your own son incurred a “freeloader debt” when he left the Sea Org (likely waived because he is your son). This can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Every SO member knows if they leave they will have this huge debt. A fact of life for EVERY SO member. And totally fabricated. The bill is for “slave labor” required to study scientology courses and be sec checked and they are told the bill IS enforceable. That of course is a lie.
Intimidation — physical, verbal and mental intimidation occurs every minute of the day at the Gold Base. That environment has trickled down to ALL SO orgs in the world and even leaked out to Class V orgs. Intimidation is part and parcel of life in a scientology organization.
Isolation — SO members on the Gold Base are among the most isolated people in the US. No TV. No media. No internet. No phones. No letters outside that are not checked by security. No way of leaving the property. No time TO leave the property. This is true to a lesser extent at all SO bases and orgs. But there is no Sea Org member on earth who would not be considered “isolated” by any normal citizen.
Denied education — People under the age of 16 are put on post in SO Orgs and NOT allowed to attend school. Of course, in scientology, higher education is frowned upon as simply filling your head with “wog false data.” The ONLY valuable education to a scientologist is a scientology education.
So, why are you on about human rights abuses, slavery and human trafficking in remote villages in India when your own “church” is engaged in EXACTLY these things right under your noses?
Wake up. Scientology is engaged in human rights abuses. Every single day. Right here. Right now.
I have been wondering how so many children who are of compulsory school age in this “cult” run by Mr. D “Bag” M. who do not attend any sort of actual school, haven’t been scooped up by child protective services. You would think that the district and/or state would have been all over this “non-religion” for not filing an affidavit of homeschooling for each and every child in the school districts they reside in. It seems there are a lot of children in this cult org which equals a lot of freaking paperwork for parents or whomever is over age 18. I homeschool and I have to file a legal affidavit every single year and if I don’t, my son is mandated to attend public school. So why does Scientology seem to be above the law regarding unsupervised and uneducated babies and young children? My state of Pennsylvania is weirdly free of any Scientology buildings (Philadelphia recently kicked them out regarding an unused building that was never staffed).
Mike, was there ever an incident where a state or school district investigated or legally went after Scientology for violating their homeschool laws for school aged children?
Not that I am aware of.
How hilarious that I’m in the middle of watching two A&E documentaries on Scientology when what pops up in my Facebook feed but yet another “sponsored ad’ trying to smear Leah’s efforts:
https://www.facebook.com/LeahReimini/
Hi Mike, ‘Just want to thank you and Leah for your documentary series and all of your efforts revealing Scientology for what it actually is–coo-coo-for-coco puffs:-). Seriously though, I always loved Leah & the only thing that bothered me was hearing she was a Scientologist. Now I know she was not one at heart, just misguided like the others still in it. I hope your efforts free a lot of others! Awesome job. All the best to your family in & out of the gates:-). Marie
Scientology has mastered the art of human rights abuses.Talk about evil entities.
Thank you Mike. You are opening our eyes.
The name Ann Archer rang a bell.
Here a link to a breakdown of the violations of Human Rights in relation to the articles of “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights” perpetrated by the Church of Scientology:
http://askthescientologist.blogspot.ch/2010/04/scientology-and-universal-declaration.html
At the end of the breakdown the author of the article say: “In other words, the Church of Scientology “supports” the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, except for Articles 4, 5, 9, 12, 18, 19, 23 and 24 — and any other Articles that might interfere with their raking in money and abusing staff and public.”
My answer to that Kind of nonsense:
because of Democracy and educating people
THERE ARE MORE FREE PEOPLE TODAY
THAN AT ANY TIME IN HISTORY
What did they effectly do about it next to have Speakers ?
How do they deal with the physically handicapped when they want to join ? In all the times I have driven down Ft. Harrison, I’ve never seen so much as a set of crutches, let alone a wheel chair. Maybe they can be taken down with violations of the ADA.
Greg, the ADA doesn’t apply regarding joining a religious order.
You can COME in if you can GET in…..hmmmmm…….
Mike W –Now THAT little fact needs to be loudly proclaimed to the public ( perhaps on Season 2 of ‘Aftermath’). I was unaware of this ADA exemption. The accessibility to the physically handicapped or impaired should be a requirement for any and all religious organizations.
Just like the church’s position that homosexuality is a ‘fixable’ condition, I truly believe that as more factual information about Scn is exposed, the organization will implode under its own weight of abuses.
I was thinking about you and your situation earlier today. Knowing how difficult the loss of your family has been for you and all your experience with “the cult” – at what point in your life will you forgive yourself, realize that you were duped and leave it all behind you. If you don’t do this soon – my question to you is “Will you ever be happy?” I would love for you to be kinder with yourself and smile sometimes. And if your kids can’t find it in their heart to forgive you – so be it. Have faith that at some point they will come to their senses and reach out to you. Just my opinion and it comes from my heart. Smile and remember God is real and is in charge.
I have noted how very much Mike smiles nowadays. He did a lot of it during the recent A&E series. Laughter, too. He is a prime example of a man who has released himself from his shackles. Keep on keeping on, Mike. You done good!
Mike, my logical mind is struggling with one question. How did this little “nothing special” kid (Miscavige) become who is in this cult??? Even his Dad had to escape??
I struggle with this also. How did he get so powerful? So powerful that he can assault grown men and not get assaulted back? Or has anyone ever gotten physical back w/him? If so, I am sure the punishment was swift and severe, sadly. He is the poster child for Napoleon Syndrome. Look up Napoleon Syndrome in the dictionary, and you’ll see a pic of David Miscavige,…
Mike, you and Leah are doing great things, getting all these stories out in public.
The same way Hitler did…by saying what he had to to get close to power; then eliminating the competition swiftly and brutally when the time came.
Not only his dad, Edie, but his niece, too. His twin sister has become a hopeless junkie and, like his wife, has been “disappeared.” A fine example of a “leader”? I think not.
Mike, my husband and I have the same question about David Miscavige becoming so powerful. We hear what you and Leah are saying – that members are so brainwashed, that by the time Miscavige hits them, they believe it was their own fault. But, the question is still….how did he get in this position? And, has anyone let loose on him? We are amazed that he is still standing, honestly! And, I find it hard to believe that a narcissistic person like Miscavige, wouldn’t be scouring the internet, looking for his own name and what people might be saying about him. He is the playground bully and needs to be stopped.
I’m sure he does read the net looking for his own name. I’m also sure he watched every second of Mike and Leah’s show.
“You may choose to look the other way but you can never say again that you did not know.” -William Wilberforce
Mike,
Thanks to you, Leah and all of the brave souls willing to tell there stories, a blazing beacon has now been shed on this darkness. I am amazed at how often Aftermath comes up in conversation. And, I know of no one who is choosing to look the other way.
Human Rights the topic for Jan 22 2017 , I am wondering if anyone has a plan to house or feed or support the next wave of members that will leave.
Hey Mike,
Check this out – https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/Scientology
Might be something worth while in these recently declassified CIA documents…
Fascinating what the CIA considers classified. One of the documents looked like small press release to the effect that in 1977 a judge ruled that the FBI raids on the church were unconstitutional and that all documents had to be returned to the church. What has always struck me about the whole thing is that the U.S. government, and other governments, deliberately attacked LRH and his work, going so far as to violate the U.S. Constitution, not to mention agencies’ own codes of ethics and conduct.
In all the recent media crap about the 2016 elections, I ended up with a few moments of confusion about what to believe. As a longtime Scn I’m used to “revising and extending my own remarks to myself”, revising my viewpoints, adding, expanding, improving, and usually don’t have any difficulty (I find I’ve been wrong sometimes, but I get it right with new data). The simplest idea hit me, that what is obvious, is obvious, and I do not need to be “told” anything further. It is possible to filter even very biased news, written in such nefarious manners as to cast doubt upon even the most evident fact. LRH’s Data Series of outpoints can also be used to filter fact from “drama”.
The plain and obvious fact is that – all “analysis”, “inside story”, and “opinion” aside – LRH was attacked. His work, his church, his philosophy, were attacked. By the U.S. government, operating on some directive handed down, on the flimsiest excuse that the e-meter was an unlicensed medical instrument.
A judge, and probably a lot of other cooler heads and honest minds, caught it, and reversed it.
An apple is an apple. Water is water. Daylight is daylight. This all sounds all too obvious. But look at a “current topic” of “medical insurance” for medical services – who pays for it? How is it a “right”? Is it not a product or service which must be payed for? What gives anyone the “right” to take some other individual’s money to pay for their own when they cannot pay for it themselves? Some issues require a bit of detachment from prevailing “analysis and opinion” to see through to the obvious facts.
The most obvious “elephant in the room” fact about Scientology the data, philosophy, and procedures is that these are VERY poorly understood. Those who are audited and trained do much better, but even many of those individuals seem to not get the big picture and the clarity of simplicity of it all. I’m trying not to say that in a pejorative way. I can’t get into every individual’s head and find mistaken concepts. I am stating that Scientology is a subject to be looked at, simply, and facts discerned. That is more difficult the deeper or higher the subject, but that is what LRH said Scientology is all about: looking at life, discerning the obvious from all the “packaging” and “spin”. Another individual’s reality on something is only the fact that another individual has a reality on something. Someone’s reality or viewpoint or opinion does not make something true. That includes looking at Scientology itself. When dealing with a synthesis of all philosophy and religion in the history of Earth, one is dealing with a lot of magic and superstition, a lot of very deep logic and deduction. One is dealing with core motivations, feelings, attitudes, and beliefs of billions of individuals. This is the most relevant of subjects. All this should be very obvious fact.
We seek others’ confirmations of our own realities. We feel comfort orienting to groups and agreements, some may be true, some may be false. Joking, one could say that any agreement is better than no agreement at all … but truth is best. Scientology is a subject which is sure to generate a ton of “analysis and opinion” – 99% of it something other than fact, other than truth. One can be assured that there will be much deliberate maligning and distortion. The FBI did it. The original Bridge has been altered. The entire history of it has yet to be written.
One thing is certain, which everyone can be assured of: the truth is never going away, and it is there to be perceived. Those who hew by it do much better than those who do not.
(Back to another Monday, another year, another lifetime … the truth is much more pleasing than the dawn.)
Are you really saying you saw a press *release* and are assuming therefore that what it said is true? You do know that the GO people were CONVICTED. You know the GO put out press releases saying they were being charged with the “crime” of taking xerox paper without permission? You do know that if this had been an “unconstitutional” seizing of documents there would have been no prosecution right? And that the documents about Paulette Cooper, Gabe Cazares and many others would never have seen the light of day?
Sorry – no. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp88-01315r000400410041-1
I was replying to “MW” above, who gave a link to declassified CIA docs (that’s my understanding). If by any chance my link here doesn’t work (it looks fractured, as I type), the doc is “Scientology Raid Unconstitutional, Judge Rules”. I said it LOOKED like nothing more than what one would find in a news wire press release – i.e. no fancy “TOP SECRET” rubber stamped in red, no 400 pages of Spy v. Spy., no 8×10 color glossy photographs.
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Sorry for my negligence in being more specific about which raid I was referring to – they apparently were really going at it. In some other less civilized countries, the government probably would have rounded up the bunch and quietly blown them in half with anti-aircraft guns.
I know YOU know this, but just to clarify for any new readers here, I am NOT affiliated with the Co$, have not been for a long time now, and I never had first-hand knowledge of their operations, operators, clandestine agents, agendas, structures, orders, memos, or whether they ate Rice Crispies, not how often, nor … etc.. I just continue to pursue Scientology the philosophy OUTSIDE the Co$, on my own, thank you.
Hope this clarifies. Sorry.
It appears you have cherry picked the philosophy and neglected to see how it *actually* operates, ignoring virtually all the points of the “philosophy” itself. Freedom? The right to speak one’s mind? The right to decide for oneself? None of this exists at all in the current church. Most of it didn’t exist back in the 70s when LRH was in charge.
P.S. Mike, in ref to your post about the notorious GO: Interpolating what you wrote, you are saying that at some time the FBI seized docs pertaining to ” … Paulette Cooper, Gabe Cezares, and many others …”. I have no idea at all if that was the same raid the CIA doc referred to. My understanding is that the U.S. Government began its opposition to LRH as an individual and the church he founded as an entity, BEFORE the widely publicized Operation Snow White by the GO. I also heard that they seized e-meters in one raid, and attempted to shut down the church on the basis that an e-meter was an unlicensed medical instrument – a similar approach is apparently underway in either France or Belgium, today. It would make more sense to shut down herbal supply shops, on the same allegations of unlicensed practice of medicine, since herbs are ingested internally, while in most cases I’ve heard of, an e-meter is not. To me, it’s more “questionable” for a government to violate its own laws, than it is for another entity to do so.
My interest is in the data and philosophy, and distinguishing that from the church (the church being actions of the people involved in the organization).
I mean … Edison and Tesla apparently had some differences and some industrialists at GE v. Westinghouse (IIRC) had a financial and patent rights war of some sort going on, which ended up (I read) with the U.S. on AC while Europe adopted DC. That was, to me, secondary to the discoveries about electricity and all the decisions and go-ahead for enormous capital investment to wire cities and have electric street lamps and appliances, and commercialize its use. We live in a material world, and this stuff goes on routinely … Rockefeller, AT&T, the Financial Crisis, the rate-fixing scandal, Barrings and their “rogue trader” … all of this is why ad hominem slander against LRH makes no sense to me.
I havent read the document. It might have pertained to the raid in the 60’s that took emeters and books.
You are right, the enmity toward scientology and Hubbard began way before Snow White. In some respects Snow White was a response to that enmity.
The fight with the “establishment” began when Hubbard sent Dianetics to the AMA and APA and asked for their endorsement. When they refused, he began lashing out at psychiatrists and the medical establishment. Some of those people had connections in the US Government. They thought Hubbard was a quack who was offering cures (back in those days his claims about Dianetics were far more black and white than they became – it cured everything, from poor eyesight to polio).
Mike, Thanks for the clarification and expanding my general grasp of what happened. It’s very informative. The CIA document was reproduced entirely above. That’s all there is of it (I mean, there were some headers and footers for date, origin, probably department codes, etc..)
Mike – No, sorry. There is a PDF file attached, which I just read, and that one raid was July 8 1077, and it WAS as you surmised originally to look for or counter or gain information about the “alleged” government infiltration by the church, and I take that as “Op Snow White”. So you were correct in your assumption. The PDF file is apparently the full Xeroxed text of a newspaper article.
Great back and forth guys. I just have this question for Nickname: You so aptly quote and refer directly to LRH. What happened to “Your truth is your truth.”? If an SO member determines it is their truth to leave, why is there such effort and means undertaken to make them stay?
That’s a good question OhioBuckeye. A very good question. “If an SO member determines it is their truth to leave, why is here such effort and means undertaken to make them stay?” “Tweet” answer: find a copy of an admin scale, read Nicomachean Ethics, study carefully. Tell me.
MY answer: Have you ever met a yo-yo? That’s why. Just to make sure my meaning comes across, the answer to your very good question is that they’re yo-yo’s (in a manner of speaking, of course, of course – wouldn’t want to offend anyone who’s keeping another locked up, no, no). I mean, you can get into the rationalizations that they genuinely think they’re doing the right thing. History is full of that, including “this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you”. The best I’ve been able to come up with in terms of trying to straighten things out is that each individual operates on the basis of goals, products, exchanges, ideal scenes – an admin scale, in Scn. Aristotle talked a lot about this in Nicomachean Ethics. The simple thing sounds like Yogi Berra: if you don’t know what you’re trying to do, be careful, because you might not get it done. It’s humble, but I think I got it right. The individual must look at his goals and purposes, his personal policies, what his end product is, and how that all fits with his envisioned ideal scene: an admin scale is to me the template for the logic of be-do-have, the spiritual DNA of life and living. I guess you can go more simple with that, and just say that a sound basis for life is affinity for others – good feeling about, goodwill, or to reference it all, the teaching of Christianity about others. If I like other people, I can feel pretty good about life. We’re all not too bright. We like people who like us because they like us. We like people who are smarter. We like people who are sound characters. Most of us do what we’re told, most of the time, or some synthesis: our parents, kindergarten teachers, ministers, friends, work associates, governments – you get the idea. I wish I could sum it all up in a tweet – 140 words or less that really were understandable to almost everyone. I mean, I can just quote Hubbard’s admin scale and offer my opinion that it’s the most powerful collection of a dozen words or so in any language. That’s why.
Nickname, since Mike responded to you already, I wanted to chime in on a point or two.
While “ad hominem slander” is generally invalid, it does apply to what would in court would be called the credibility of a witness or expert, and Hubbard and his organizations did themselves set up his life as supposed proof of his work (and just about the only proof, in the absence of proper scientific study and evidence) – as Tommy Davis famously let slip, if Hubbard lied then that undermines all of Scientology. If Hubbard was raving, vengeful and out of control, as is corroborated particularly through a lot of the testimony and evidence about his behavior on board the Apollo in the 1960s, then his claims to free people of their reactive minds and make the “clear” would seem to be proven false if he couldn’t do it for himself. If his family life and dealings with his associates were a mess, then his claims about being able to improve relationships are brought into question, and so on. And if Hubbard lied about everything from his education to his war record to his marriages – indisputably proven on several points, and even confessed to by Hubbard himself at some points – how can we give any credence to anything that he claimed about his supposed research and results?
Hubbard did make medical claims for the e-meter early on, so it’s not surprising that they the got the attention of the FDA – a jury even agreed with the FDA, but Scientology got out of it on appeal due to the “religious angle.”. This was towards the end of a final crackdown by the FDA on the old blatantly false claims of patent medicines that had begun in the 1930s, and herbal remedies were also effectively prohibited from making claims that were too specifically medical.
Hubbard both made very specific psychological claims for his methods, and bitterly attacked the mental health profession, so it’s not surprising that he and his organizations ended up in an escalating conflict between the two. He and Scientology have never to this day taken one iota of responsibility for having “pulled in” (to use their term for attracting) unwanted attention and even attacks due to their own adversarial and combative stances. And yes, there were vested interests at work as well, that’s just human behavior.
Remember that Hubbard also talked about taking things over, including governments, and made all sorts of strange and even ominous pronouncements about things like his ability to accomplish brainwashing. It’s again not surprising, that he drew government attention and even negative reactions. The fact that most of his wildest pronouncements and attacks were very early on, and that he later seems to have been more cautious, could be seen as tacit acknowledgement that he had done to much to attract the negative attention and had finally learned a lesson about toning it down.
Mike,
I just watched the final show and I have officially cried my way through every episode. If it emotionally drains me, I can only imagine how this has effected both of you. I hope you can both have some family time before proceeding. You deserve a re-boot. I’m sure this has been tough on everyone associated with the show. You have all shown so much class and modeled such professional integrity. You have demonstrated such love and compassion for so many, don’t forget to show a little to yourselves.
God Bless.
Mikayla
Off topic a bit,
But I just got a extremely butt-licking, plaintive, voice mail from AOLA (I guess they don’t know I have awakened) begging me to come back, and that the cost is (paraphrased) “wayyyy less than it was”. Apparently, there is some effort to rise above the Titanic demise with lower prices.
Anybody else getting This?
Ann Archer, founder of Artists for Human Rights, seems to have found a lucrative sideline extracting money from wealthy scientologists and maybe a fool every now and then who doesn’t know any better. I’ll bet her shakedown operation isn’t all that lucrative. Just what scientologist want, another fucking thing to donate to.
She’s only had 4 or 5 parts since 2008, and her IMBD trivia page states that she’s the a International Spokesperson for Hubbard’s Study Tech and was “Miss Golden Globes”, whatever that was.
She can’t even get a role on a Lifetime or Hallmark movie nowadays, so with less than a project a year, what’s else does she have to look forward to?
Knowing Hollywood fairly well, my bet is that her loud mouth and claims ensured that the industry types who could see through the scio fog also saw to it that she wouldn’t work any longer. Like any other industry, one has to work at it continually to succeed and remain successful. Anne was always too busy to do that.
Avenger, Archer’s IMDB page shows her born in 1947, which makes her nearly 70 years old. To be fair, she may just be in retirement.
I could also imagine that Archer is keeping up her involvement in AFHR as a remaining largely positive aspect of her involvement in Scientology, one that she is invested in as its founder. I could not find any recent evidence of her being active as a spokesperson for Applied Scholastics.
I suspect that we are going to eventually discover that more celebrities than is currently obvious, have backed away from Scientology organizations, but do not want to be seen as being disaffected. I cannot think of any wholehearted endorsements made by celebrities recently, even Tom Cruise’s “it’s a beautiful church” comment is a lukewarm response that could be the beginning of a sentence that ends in something like “but I am not involved in any religion at this point.”
Kerry Kennedy is the wife of NY Governor Andrew Cuomo and sister of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. It’s significant if she, like her brother, have been drawn into the orbit of Scientology front groups.
From what I witnessed of Scientology’s intersections with the Kennedy family, they date to the 1970’s when Ted Kennedy’s mistress, Helga Wagner joined, and became an asset for the Guardians Office.
FYI, Cuomo and Kennedy have been divorced over 10 years.
Based on all a friend has told me of his years in the GO I will bet anything that Helga was an “asset” well before she became Kennedy’s mistress. The cult always worried about having “plants” in its own organizations. Seems this was merely the motivator speaking loudly.
Hypocrisy.
This has all the hallmarks of the typical cult propaganda about its alleged benevolent activities.
First, they always happen someplace far away. Surely, there are disadvantaged groups in LA or in FL, the cult (and donor) meccas?
Second, this is awfully short on specifics. The “village” doesn’t have a name? Nor do the other villages that this wildfire of benevolence is now spreading to? That’s awfully inconvenient for those of us (or donors) who may wish to corroborate the “facts!”
Finally, where is the financial accountability? How long has this project been going on? How much money has been earmarked for it? What can I do if I wish to SPECIFICALLY donate to this worthy cause?
Shining the light on SCN front groups has a twofold effect: 1) it enlightens would-be donators and 2) it shrinks the world of Miscavige to elderly old timers and new foreign staff seeking assialum from 3rd world poverty.
Good article, thanks. Ok, so I don’t believe them. They talk a good game, then have a list of impressive names, but I don’t believe that a significant percentage of the money they raise will go to any program to help. Perhaps 5%? Let’s see an accounting of funds raised: what percentage goes to food, shelter, clothing, paying school teachers, etc. They never show how much money comes in and where it goes. They have a history of lying about how donations are used. Point blank, I don’t trust them. I’ll donate to organizations that have a proven track record and are open, honest, and transparent about how the money is used.
How in the world can we tell if Scientology is behind these ads???? In actuality we all need to check into an organization before giving $. I refuse to give over the phone or org I’ve never heard of but that’s bc I’m older & have learned my lesson
Meanwhile real groups of concerned citizens are working earnestly to expose and stop human trafficking claims. This work is based off information released by whistle blowers such as Kathryn Bolkovac, Wikileaks, and most recently Ben Swann.
For more information research Pizzagate
Nice Poe, and not the Edgar Allen kind.
Meanwhile real groups of concerned citizens are working earnestly to expose and stop human trafficking claims. This work is based off information released by whistle blowers such as Kathryn Bolkovac, Wikileaks, and most recently Ben Swann.
For more information see: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate
Always, ALWAYS scrutinize the officers and other higher ups in these types of orgs. That usually is a tip off as to its true nature. There is NO way Ann Archer doesn’t know about the abuses in the S.O. Which makes her a CRIMINAL.
Sobering blog post. At least there was a chuckle to be had in the last line, with the satire of Tommy Davis: “Right here. Right now.”
😀
Charity Navigator is one of several organizations that rate charities. I often advise people to check them out before they invest or donate. I’m including a link to them regarding the above organization (if it’s the same one mentioned).. They haven’t been rated on the site because they have not filed their 990 form, but there is still a place at the bottom you can register comments in case people look them up.
I doubt that most philanthropic offshoots of Co$ have Navigator status because they are too opaque to be rated. And their program and claims listed above sound horribly vague. Are all those individual luminaries featured as “past speakers” aware of their claimed role and just what this organization represents? Do any legitimate organizations they represent realize who they are “partnering” with? Are there published transcripts available from whatever lecture series they spoke at?
Creating a humanitarian front organization to mask human rights abuses is like a drug cartel operating a daycare.
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=260174922
Thank you
I always wondered why the Mafia ran my daycare center.
These people must be cashing on somehow.
They try to hide in plain sight.
It will make it even more painful for them as the proven stories of their behavior and acts in violating human rights grows.
If anyone walked into a church asking for help because they were starving hungry (as an example) they would be sent away as Dev-t or PTS. Scientology has zero effect on helping any human needing an actual hand up out of a bad situation. You CAUSED it so you are PULLING IT IN.
And you know, it doesn’t matter, Mike. As long as your blog is active, our collective messages will be heard.
Good for you saying all this. I hope this gets emailed, twittered, forwarded etc. to these guys. Oh and you don’t have to say ‘PT’ anymore. The Wog word is ‘mindedness’ from my understanding. Like “I wasn’t paying attention” or something 🙂
I will share on my social media networks. Awareness is important. Thank you for sharing.
And thank you for sharing too, Jen!
Last night I was using a website Charity Navigator,I though the site was good at what it claims to do,however when I used the search tool on site and searched for the CoS front CCHR the “charity” was listed. The CCHR in LA had been rated 84.54 which in the world of charitable organizations is pretty good.There is list of officers,pretty pie charts,etc. I was aghast. The people who run the website and do the ratings need to become informed about the scam that they are I hope inadvertently participating in.
Here are a few “Universal Rights” I would like to see:
Freedom from psychopathic rulers ;
Freedom from self-appointed ‘Global Elites,
Freedom from surveillance;
Enhanced rights to privacy.
Full disclosure of all ‘costs of governance’ at local, state, Federal and Internaional levels;
Freedom from advertising; ie: “No means NO!”
I’m kind of flabbergasted here–who receives these pieces of propaganda and where/how are they distributed? I read and re-read the advert several tines but could find no direct reference to Scientology, so how could or would a casual observer like me even become clued in that this is a front group and not a legitimate human rights organization? This kind of deception is insidious!
Another post that roasts the cult Mike.The Famous “not in present time”.I had a Div 2 head in Sea Org,who made herself Upstat by screaming that phrase at me before Thurs at 2:00.The icing on the cake was she was expert at starting with the first dynamic and yelling through the eighth,ending with a shrill Come up to Present Time Ann after reciting each one.Wowser,The Tech hard at work.Love U.?
Ann B, her BTs were probably whispering in her ears…
Wow Scientology really has it’s own language doesn’t it? Ann I barely understood a word of that other then it sounds very upsetting!
As you can tell, I’ve been lurking for today’s post, haha.
They’re playing pretty loose with the definition of slavery and asserting there are more slaves now than any other time in human history.
I’m not convinced.
“Truth” is a very fluid word in the cult.
Sorry — I thought I had posted this this morning. I guess I was “not in present time” when I “pushed” the button….
That’s a laugh. 🙂 The church’s efforts to free enslaved people does not even make any sense. A SO member in LA was once forced with no time off to clean a garbage dumpster with a tooth brush. Some church member must think is hilarious. Good for those church members that still have a sense of humor, especially with eternity in front of them. 🙂
You x zenu spies scare me , just saying but i think that you all can be recaptured by this cult because your never really admitting you now realize you were brainwashed volcanoes spirits aliens embarrassing to admit you believed such nonsense is that it? Because then i understand why you never come out and truly make a outsider op lt cd xs xp like me believe your normal and I would be able to sleep in a cabin with one of you x zenus not chained to a radiator just saying you scare the #$@t out of me, p.s why our governments don’t kill Dm the dwarf leader i just don’t know but if I was president buy buy dead done over your all free now but I’m not so they legally enslave our fellow humans sad knowing a bullet cost only $1
My answer to your original post is at the top of the page.
Hey Mike, what would likely happen if a group of people from Riverside County started picketing outside the Riverside County facility?
Excellent Question?
My understanding is that the facility at Gold Base is a 500 acre property bisected by a highway. I don’t think there are sidewalks on either side of it since within the compound there is a tunnel from one side to the other. Therefore there is really no one “place” for anyone to picket. Moreover, the front gate is guarded and on private property. At least that’s how it seems to me.
I drive by it about once a month and it appears to be possible to stand on the side of the highway legally. People park there to go hiking. So parking nearby is not a problem.
MD, there are plenty of reports from pickets that have been attempted at the property that can be found online, including video, to should answer your question about what would likely happen. The property does have the access problems another commenter described, plus Scientology responds with typical aggressiveness, and it just doesn’t seem to be a good location for action to make a point with either those inside or the public, so protesters have picked other locations for years.
Unless you could organize something with local support on a larger scale than anything previously attempted, you may want to look to some of those other protesters with experience who have found more effective locations to picket. You may also want to keep an eye out for any local government issues involving Scientology where you can be active as a citizen.
I’m not suggesting I would do it. I was asking a theoretical question of Mike since he would know what the protocol is. Just curious.
Perhaps an organized demonstration outside of “Big Blue” would be more ‘doable’.
MD, I don’t think that your second comment about what you observed from driving by had been posted when I made my comment.
I only know what I remember from reading in the past, but at least when it comes to people who Scientology identifies as protestors, they become quite intolerant and put the “fair game” policy to work, including broadcasting loud noises (supposedly to scare birds off) and turning on sprinklers that cover the roadside areas, and escalating to even more aggressive reactions. Google something like “gold base protest” and you will find plenty of accounts.
Imagine the mystery created for the true believers tasked with monitoring this blog.
I sincerely hope they are questioning or at least starting to wonder how a “church” can continue to label and blame so many people.
Thanks Mike, I’m glad you are you. The world needs more people that are able to really experience and grow. So many today seem to burry their head in the sand. I admire your zest for life and your sense of fairness. If there is anything you need please let me know.