Here is some fascinating insight into the world of “OT.”
This “OT,” according to her estimation, had no confront. Then she got onto OT VII. Apparently even that didn’t do it for her either.
Knocking on people’s doors to fundraise “changed me like nothing else ever would. My confront has skyrocketed as well as my abilities…”
So, asking for money finally raised her confront and brought her “skyrocketed” abilities. What does that say about the power of these OT levels?
This is SO typically scientology. Whatever it is that you are trying to promote or write a success story about always has to be the “greatest thing.” It’s why you see OT VIII’s writing “success stories” about how incredibly powerful redoing the Purif for the 4th time was. Or 25 year scientologists claiming the “new” Student Hat (containing the exact same “tech” as the first time they did the course 25 years ago) has “changed their life.”
Scientology is based on hype. And a great deal of imagination.
But the problem with hype is this: Every time you have to come up with new wonders of the imagination to outdo the last hype. Pretty soon you have hyper hype inflation. And you look like idiots.
Aquamarine says
I live in a large Northeastern city and on the streets you’ll see beggars. In my area there are several who are familiar to me; they’ve staked out their own street spots where they camp out. Two of them near where I live have signs; they sit with their heads down and say nothing while people walk by and drop their money into their containers. The other two I know are vocal; they each say, “Please help. Can you help me get something to eat?”
Now, what might not be apparent, is that what these beggars are doing is actually hard work.
Think about it: they’re outside for hours, in all weathers; they’re asking strangers for money, saying the same thing over and over and over, with many people just walking by, looking right thru them. Then the ones who have signs up, well, they’re not talking or even looking at people but still they have to SIT there for hours while hundreds, thousands of people walk by them, averting their eyes if they’re not going to drop some coin into the bowl…this has to be very hard, very stressful, doing this every day. I would THINK a regular job with all its stresses would actually be EASIER than street begging – not that they’d get HIRED, mind you – but just SAYING that street begging has to be a VERY difficult way to earn money.
So what is my point?
Its that this Glosup woman has a point. Going door to door asking for money IS hard. I agree with her that it takes confront to do this.
But then…you see, these street beggars have this confront. And they’re not even on the Bridge.
In fact, Scientology would call them “DB s” (Degraded Beings).
BUT! Here’s what’s interesting to me:
They can stand or sit outside for HOURS and confront strange people, and talk to strange people, some of them who make no effort to disguise the fact they they despise them. They can just keep going for hours and not get upset (it would appear) when they are mostly ignored.
See, these “DBs” have this ability – this same ability, this same level of confront, that this Glosup woman is claiming as an ability gained out of her Bridge.
Except that these street beggars “holding their position in space” pretty much every day in their various street locations – these “DBs” , unlike Ms. Glosup, didn’t spend half a million dollars getting this ability to confront and persist.
Maybe these beggars should be giving Scientology seminars. I’m going to speak to them.
Doug Sprinkle says
Those are great points. I never really understood what Hubbard meant by holding your position in space. I’ve been sitting in the same chair for 10 minutes does that mean I’m holding my position in space?
Aquamarine says
Literally, yes 🙂 But Scientologically speaking it means maintaining an intention to be, do or have something. Not wavering or being thrown off once one has an intention of some sort, however major or minor the intention; being able to persist on a given course in some way.
Joe Pendleton says
They could be “natural OTs” … Unlike most of us, they survive with a minimal amount of clothes, money, good food, good shelter,etc. … These are TRULY, the beings WHO MAKE IT GO RIGHT!!!!
Quick, LA Area Orgs (and SF and NYC) head down to skid row with a bunch of staff contracts!
START!!!!
Cindy says
Good points you make, Aquamarine!
I once heard an OT VII completion give her completion speech at Flag. Her big win after hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on the Bridge to get to this point was this: “I can now sell Dianetic books to wogs. It doesn’t scare me anymore and I feel invincible because I can now sell a book.” I was shocked. THIS is the win you get from completing OT VII?
Aquamarine says
LOL, Cindy! How underwhelming 🙂
Duped-Lie-Cated says
Now that the ideal orgs are winding down, the OECs can be re-re-released with the many policies against buying big buildings.
Hope she has her confront in on that one.
Just when the OTC thinks it’s over, dave’s new roll out of national all hands fundraising projects will be launched. New staff for OEC training, lrh museum, and park, and who knows what else.
PeaceMaker says
Sounds like she got about what Toastmasters or Dale Carnegie offer – at far less cost, monetary and otherwise.
And yeah, it make sense she didn’t want to be on an OT committee given unpleasant tasks like shaking down members increasingly less interest in scientology, and make-work like re-doing correspondence courses just to try to keep the org’s stats up. What comes to mind is that she’s reached the point of being a clubbed seal, no longer able to resist…..
Other photos I found online suggest that photo is old, and she that she appears to be in her 60s but with smoker’s wrinkles, so it could also just be that between the pandemic and the winding down of her work life, she’s now got time to fritter away.
Cindy says
PeaceMaker, Right you are! Mary Elizabeth is 67 years old or older. This pic is old or has lots of filters on it or both. She does have smoker’s wrinkles.
All hail Xenu says
So she became Xenu’s witness, door to door.
Now the question is, how are they going to get their “little flock” of 144,000 OTs? They don’t even have that many members.
Rip Van Winkle says
Raising money for Ideal Orgs should be EASY!
Why don’t they just show glossy videos of all the big booming Ideal Orgs?
You wouldn’t have to caper about silly costumes and knock on midnight doors.
There are dozens of Ideal Orgs, ten and fifteen years old! Tons MUST be Saint Size too by now!
Just SHOW the VIDEOS!!
Of all the course rooms, JAM PACKED
The Div 6 course rooms full of TRs and co-audits
The Universe Corps, taking the Staff to Full OT,
new Missions opening around them, testing centers, accolades from the Chamber of Commerce…
….
they’ll all be so excited, it’s easy!
Yoooo-hoooo! Mary Elizabeth! Good ideas here, feel free to use!
Richard says
As far as I know Hubbard only made money by selling books, auditing and training. I occasionally mention this since some current scns may not even be aware that donations were not always required. Maybe if scn had gotten tax exemption when Elron was alive he might have come up with fundraising and donations as an “exchange across the dynamics” like DM has done and scns would have bought into it. I was gone by 1980 and at least I got what I paid for. It’s all history now and isn’t going back.
PeaceMaker says
Richard, that was Hubbard’s propaganda illusion for the flock, pretending to be in “exchange” with them – and even falsely claiming to be taking no more than Sea Org pay, when in fact he drew vast sums. From the beginning he made money other ways including, early on, charging exhorbitant amounts to followers of means (early “whales”) for personalized auditing and sessions, accepting outright donations and gifts, and taking money in a variety of ways including loans that were never repaid – plus of course outright ripoffs of his business partners.
Followers have also always been expected to donate large amounts of uncompensated or under-paid labor, and especially auditors, staff and most of all Sea Org, as Hubbard became obscenely wealthy and stacked up cash in Swiss bank vaults – and did nothing to at least see after full-time workers’ health care and retirement, as legitimate religions do. That’s a bit more subtle, but in its way even more insidious.
Obviously it’s been taken to new – and more obvious, and blatantly craven – levels, but that’s in good part because Hubbard left his successor with an organization doomed to decline, and little way to keep it going except to increase outright cash extraction.
Cayden Richards says
This highlights how the tech actually doesn’t work.
What she is saying is actually a “failure story” for all her previous auditing and training! Not just the OT levels, which are supposed to give astronomical super abilities. But what about the Lower levels like level zero, being able to communicate with anyone on any subject!
Where’s the confront that Scientologist are always going on about!
Mormons and JWs have no problem knocking on doors!
Epic fail.
Rip Van Winkle says
scientology is so great you get wins every time you do it no matter how many times.
“number of times over equals certainty and result”
did you know that you can cognite on the importance of “ARC” on every level, every word cleared?
teach us to believe our own bullshit all the while hijacking our lives and output. Neat trick.
Aquamarine says
“But what about the Lower levels like level zero, being able to communicate with anyone on any subject.”
Cayden, back when I was in, I observed that the higher up on the Bridge the Scientologist was, the LESS able he or she was to communicate with anyone on any subject!
With two exceptions, when I was in I found Scientologists on the upper OT levels 7 and 8 to be guarded, quite continuously careful and guarded in their speech, and decidedly NOT “open”.
I found them boring, frankly.
But back then, I could hardly admit this to myself, that they bored me.
I figured there had to be something wrong with ME, and that, naturally, they couldn’t be themselves and spontaneous with me because they were, well – exalted beings who had made it to the very tippy top of the Bridge, against all odds, etc., and I was a mere preclear on the Lower Bridge, midway to Clear, and as such, what the hell did I know? Not much, I believed. Not much at all, compared to THEIR awareness, to what THEY knew.
I dubbed in that if I were only on their level they’d be able and/or willing to be spontaneous with me.
Today I look back on this and I see that they bored me because they were boring 🙂
They were robotic. Thought stopping was ingrained in them. And that is VERY boring, no matter who does it – Scientologists, Evangelicals, Right Wing Nuts, Left Wing Nuts…boring.
Glenn says
Just toss out all the hyperbole she spews and it all comes down to the fact she is paid commissions on all the money she sucks from members stupid enough to take the bait. That is the only truth in all of it.
Chris Shugart says
Gimme a break Glosup. How much confront does it take to fleece your own flock? Pangs of guilt perhaps?
mwesten says
View Translation
“I didn’t much care for the OTC. I had far better and more meaningful things to do with my time, quite frankly. And I felt very uncomfortable asking people for money. We’re all under so much pressure to donate, I didn’t want to add to it. This wasn’t what i got into scientology for. But I had to come back because as an OT I had to be seen to be “contributing” or I wouldn’t be allowed to progress. I was also pushed hard out of my comfort zone by a high-functioning sociopath who I was afraid would write me up if I didn’t make an effort. Eventually the gnawing on my conscience subsided. The commissions, in particular, helped tremendously.”
Rip Van Winkle says
*snorf
last line.
🙂
nomnom says
The sad part is that way back, Mary was one of the nicest persons you could meet.
I used to know her.
The more she went up the bridge, the blinder and less herself she became.
Aquamarine says
Yes, now why is that? What is it about the OT levels that changes a person’s personality so much? I never got that far – not even close. I never even went Clear despite all the years in…but I saw Scientologists I knew CHANGE when they went past Clear and onto the OT levels. I saw it, I felt it. They were DIFFERENT. Changed. Rigid, somehow. There was this rigidity. Something of of a loss sense of humor. More serious. Definitely changed!
And in my opinion back then which I of course did NOT express not in a good way.
Alex Panicco says
So…. i just wanna see if i have this right…. Scientologists always talk about how much they “do” and how much they “help”.
This particular one in the story is talking about wanting to “do” and how much she and others “did” and how its so inspiring and wonderful!
Is the correct translation of “do and did” simply and always “give and/or collect money?”
Cause thats all i can make it out to be in all my years of following this topic!
mreppen1 says
Known her since the early 80’s her husband Dean Glossup was a former Reg at Valley Org back in the 80’s when Valley Org was relevant. Actually they are nice people, just brainwashed like most of us were. Sad to see her in this state.
Dotey OT says
In the south, famous last words are “here, hold mah beer” and there goes the guy jumping off of something you shouldn’t jump from. But it raised his confront.
In the cult, they think they can go to people’s homes and reg, sell or whatever. It works is why they do it. It’s stupid but works, and she got wins.
She doesn’t talk about the wasted hours driving, the fact that no one gets paid.
Wasted lives. Oh well, she could be in politics.
Mark Kamran says
This sounds like Liquidation Sale promo.
That’s Mental Slavery , Mind Control and Mental Conditioning ,hallmark of Cult .
No question asked, about the money got wasted through contribution and donations.
Anne Hill says
Man, am I familiar with hyper hype inflation! There are only so many ways to write about “OT wins” and I had to pull stuff out of my ass on a regular basis just to get a magazine approved.
This was especially true when it came to writing the “OT Phenomena” section of the Advance! mag. You’d have thought if all these OTs were equipped with superpowers, it would be easy to get AMAZING OT WINS!!!!! right? Hardly. It was like pulling teeth. And I usually ended up with something like “all the traffic lights magically turned green on the way home.” wow… amazing…
Doug Sprinkle says
That’s very interesting I used to be enthralled with those OT success stories I would read.
So they would pressure you to write these stories and if they didn’t find them acceptable they would make you rewrite them? I had no idea that was going on behind the scenes of these stories that I was so enthralled with.
Anne Hill says
Oh, that’s just the tip of the iceberg, Doug. 😉
Doug Sprinkle says
Well please I would love to hear more of the iceberg if you don’t mind. My auditor was absolutely obsessed with OT 8’s. He even told me in 1989 that I no longer had to worry about nuclear war because there were too many OT8’s out there. He also thought they could know people’s thoughts if they wanted to. I hope he woke up eventually.
Anne Hill says
Oh yeah, I heard all that crazy stuff too. And I hope he woke up as well! If I can think of something specific to write about all the BS in the magazines I’ll definitely share it.
Eh=Eh says
OT IX EP reveal. The ability to beg without guilt!
The Moose says
It sure seems like she is having serious doubts, but Kathy Welch is helping to keep her in.
Briget says
If anyone’s got a minute – what does the “C” in OTC stand for? I know OT means Operating Thetan –
Mike Rinder says
Committee
otherles says
I usually refer to the villians in my fanfiction as “The Committee.”
jacquelin davis says
Mine are the Council, but since the government changed to a monarchy I’ve had trouble finding another label. I don’t like using the Court because there aren’t courts anymore. Mind if I borrow the Committee?
otherles says
Not at all.
Briget says
Of course! I kept thinking “OT Program” – should be OTP! Thanks MIke
Scribe says
“I don’t know how I will ever be in exchange with LRH or the SO for everything I have gotten.”
Mary, hopefully one day you’ll have the real clear cognition: there’s nothing LRH or the SO has done that’s worthy of your exchange.
Doug Sprinkle says
How does one actually get in exchange with LRH? Is it possible to give enough money to be considered in exchange with LRH? I’m glad that getting in exchange with LRH it’s not high on my priority list.
Mary Kahn says
It’s impossible.
georgemwhite says
On July 17th in a few days, I will celebrate thirty three years since my completion of OT VIII on the Freewinds. It was a waste of time and money and turned into a total disaster. Most of my friends from the 1980’s are dead and no one achieved OT power. Hubbard made millions and got away with murder. Hubbard built a false bridge. Its actual purpose was to create obstacles so that he could count his money.
jacquelin davis says
Was it discovering that OTVIII gave you no superpowers that finally lifted the blinders? What did you write as your cognition so you could get off the Freewinds?
georgemwhite says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luQKCwz-RMA
Ron Miscavide interviews me in a three part series. All of the details are in them.
It was not so much that I did not get Super Powers. I finally realized he was an idiot.
georgemwhite says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luQKCwz-RMA
something did not work on the reply
Ron Miscavige did a great job with these tapes.
Doug Sprinkle says
George can you expand on what you mean by creating obstacles so Hubbard could count his money?
Thanks
georgemwhite says
Getting up the bridge in Scientology was very very difficult. It became very obvious to me that Hubbard was violating his own dictum which was to find the common denominator.
Why was Hubbard stuck in details like a 13th Century Catholic theologian? Why were we forced to pull these creatures in deatil? He explains part of it by saying they are really stuck. But I did my own research and found out Hubbard was just making it all up. The longer the Bridge the more money for him. If one really investigates Hubbard, the Occult and science one finds easier solutions to the BT problem.
Doug Sprinkle says
Thanks
Jim Rockford says
And, of course, no Scientology promo piece would be complete without multiple typos, punctuation errors and poor sentence structure.
Joe Pendleton says
Reading Mary Elizabeth’s story just handled my 2D, 3D, 4D and 7D misalignments! All my dynamics are working together now just like the offensive linemen of the Tampa Bay Bucs. As a thetan, I now feel as secure as Tom Brady!
Thank you MEG! Thanks to your message I just signed up for my sixth go round on Cause Resurgance! Even though I am an OT8, Full L’s, Super Power and four time Student Hat graduate, I realized after reading your story that I had a crashing misunderstood on the word “cause.” My life and its potentials are unlimited now that I am for the first time at cause . .. My 80s will be the best decade of my life!
ValR says
Just don’t come knocking on my door fundraising with all that newly found cause. You will be sorely disappointed. All I have to offer is good company and maybe a few brewskis.
Joe Pendleton says
ValR … Thanks , every time I finish Cause Resurgence, I need a week of not moving except lifting brewskis to me mug …
Scott H says
I had a grin from ear to ear whilst reading that.
grisianfarce says
I have previously suggest to Tony O that when he shares scientology certificate “wins” that he hides the actual achievement, and we have to guess from the description of clarity, etc. With this level of hyper hype we’ve got no chance of discerning the experience difference of OT6 vs Student Hat (2nd time).
J A Reyes says
CoS is stuick in the purple prose phase. I suppose it all started with LRH because he also used exaggerated language to describe everything. It comes across as very childish language similar to the language used by TFG. These people need a real thesaurus so they can come up with better adjectives.
Sarita Shoemaker says
It’s always about the money.
Every day I wake up to go do a job I enjoy and earn a paycheck, have freedoms and talk with my family I am thankful I am no longer part of this awful group of delusional people.
I regret (but can’t do anything about it) having lost a crap ton of time growing mentally but I’ve got the smarts of an ally cat and I know I’ll survive.
Now I’m dreaming about what I’d like to be doing when I’m 90-100 years old and it does not include: keeping stats,
wearing a uniform,
seeing an MLO for medical help I’ll never get,
writing compliance reports,
asking for AVC approval (they were so condescending)
getting everyone’s approval above me on the chain of command to have a day off,
getting a sec-check to go on a 2-day vacation to see my mother,
saluting,
answering to children who think they are better than me in every aspect of ‘life’,
being on the decks or worried I would end up there any second
getting a Court of Ethics
getting Comm Ev’d,
not sleeping every Thursday to Friday,
hard labor shit jobs every Sunday or was it Saturday…
white-gloving my bunk and room shared with 20 other women,
having no deodorant (my mom died – she would send me deodorant every easter in an easter basket), using the same toothbrush for a year,
using a SPECK of toothpaste to stretch it for the same year,
stealing shampoo,
rolling up TP to make “feminine products” since none are provided and I had no money…
Man, the list goes on and my life is just so much more simple.
Scribe says
Reminds me of the following:
Besides the assassination Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
Mary Kahn says
She’s so full of shit. This is a piece of promo that is attempting to “push the button” on those scientologists that don’t want to be part of an OT Committee because they hate doing whatever their post (and the IC) is dictating they do. Mary Elizabeth forced herself to wrap her mind around going to peoples’ houses and pounding on them for money (fundraising) and justifying it as the “greatest good.” And then of course the next time she goes into her Org, she can report this and get a big “ATTA GIRL!” and maybe a Commendation Chit that will justify pissing people off because you infringed on their space and forced them into their own mental lockdown of wanting to tell her to go fuck off. The World of Delusion of the Church of Scientology. But heh! she’s got two and soon three worthless Ideal Orgs to show for it that do nothing but represent the sins this church and its members commit on themselves and others to contribute to this.
Cindy says
When you’re on OT VII, not only are you told to be a part of an OT Committee, but that you have to have a specific post on that OT committee. And most of the stuff they do revolves around getting donations for this or that org that wants to go Ideal Org. I had been a course supervisor in the Narconon program for years, but was told by the MAA, that is not enough; you have to be on an OT Committee. I didn’t like being forced to do anything. If you refuse they take away your eligibility for OT VII.
Scribe says
Eligibility, what a joke, like you’re in some special club. For Dave’s golden age of tech, he is hereby eligible to receive his very own golden shower.
Cindy says
ha ha ha. And he is so deserving of it too, Scribe!
Scribe says
A fitting tribute to all those he’s pissed off.
Mary Kahn says
Exactly. At one point while I was on OT VII I was gladly doing work for Criminon. This was not accepted as a “Contribution” for the Church of Scientology and I had to do something else to maintain my eligibility. So, I did.
Then, of course, when I was on the Freewinds to do OT VIII, at one point one has to write down all their “Contributions.” THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MONEY DONATED. So, I wrote and wrote and all those contributions I did while on OT VII NOW were not accepted as ENOUGH to get onto OT VIII. BUT I AM ON THE EFFING SHIP AND I CAN’T GET OFF!!!!! So what did I HAVE to do – Join the OT Committee (which was in Clearwater) while on the Ship, get “posted” on its Org Board and get out of Non E. I truly wanted to jump overboard.
Cindy says
Mary, what a nightmare. It makes me glad I never got onto OT VIII. They could have told you beforehand. But Nooooo, they want to have the upper hand to force you join the OT Committee and come out of Non E from the ship. And the sad thing is they don’t count the tons of money donations you’ve given or the Assists for injured staff ad public you gave when NO ONE else would do an assist. Here’s another one for you:
My friend did OT VIII but on the sec check there (done even after a leaving the org and level sec check at Flag only days before),, the Ship does their own sec check and she ran out of money from that. So she called everyone she knew to beg or borrow money. No one had any. She called me three times begging for money and I didn’t have it. Mine had all gone to OT VII and other donations. She was almost in tears with me. She said but remember when I lent you money a year ago? I said yes I do and I paid it back within a few months at usury interest rates so that you made pretty good money on that short term loan. I told her if I had it I’d give it to her but I don’t have it. So she couldn’t get the money. So the Ship made her join staff in LA and sign the contract from there so that she could get the staff price, or somehow work out a deal by joining staff. So she did. The minute her contract was up, she was out of there for good.
Mary Kahn says
So infuriating and yet, she’s “out of there for good!” And these are just SOME of the betrayals that the church of scientology lays on one while they are on the ship to do OT VIII.
I hope you’re doing well Cindy.
Cindy says
Thanks Mary. Doing well only missing my disconnected kids always.
And about my former friend (she disconnected too): In spite of all the betrayals, she is still drinking the Kool Aid. When she got back from OT VIII, I asked her how OT VIII was. She said, unenthusiastically, “Oh it was all right.” And then she caught herself that she had sounded disappointed in it. She straightened up and said, Oh, I mean it was so super and you have to do it and and and, gushing all the way. She was a bad actress. Her first response was the real one, that it had been a disappointment.
Mary Kahn says
Yes. I understand. I truly don’t care about the friends I lost. But my son. 😞
I truly hope and pray you and I get our kids back.
Just recently found out about a good friend of my son’s who’s out. Gives me hope.
Peridot says
To Cindy, and Mary in this exchange: Every person still in Scientology should see this account of the person arriving to the Freewinds, all set after an arduous and expensive journey in Scientology, only to be put through what you describe here. It is crazy yet I know what you depict is true because—for any of us who were once in—we have our own variations on the above. These from you and Mary stand out, just like tales from the Int Base, because Scientologists assume the Freewinds and anything connected to OT 8 is nirvana, perfection, you are dining on cheesecake and butterscotch without the calories, etc.
An important chunk that fell into place that got me to leave was this idea: If covert hostility is real, the staff members in this group are sitting in SO MUCH covertness, it is hidden as well FROM THEM. For any crew member on the Freewinds connected to what you describe, and what Mary discusses of her experiences—they cannot even see (I don’t think) how hostile they are. Their hostility and the hostility of their actions are not seen by them. It is like a whole ‘nother level of COVERT, is what occurred to me.
That revelation gave me a deeply creeped out feeling like a horror movie. Further light was now in view, and I was soon to get out.
We can only hope that people who are on the fence are here reading and learning the truth of what goes on. Thank you, and thank you to Mike for maintaining this blog and inspiring these exchanges.
jacquelin davis says
The idea of being physically trapped on board that ship with no way to escape the regging and other insanity gives me chills.
I know that was the beginning of the end for you and I’m glad since you’d already done VIII already. What a scam
Joe Pendleton says
Very well said, Mary!
Cindy says
I tried to reply to Mary but there was no reply button, so Mary I hope you see this. This is great news that a friend of your son’s is out. What does he say about how things are in the bubble nowadays? And did he give you news of your son? That does give me hope too if a friend of your son is out. Hang in there.
Mary Kahn says
Unfortunately, my son is still very much in and I wish my friend’s son would talk to Sammy about it but he wants to hold onto his friends and not speak out. But it does give me some hope.
Noodle Fleeting says
I was on the Oat Tea committee and I must say – it was the biggest waste of time ever. NOTHING got done. Out of the three people that were there, two were Oat Tea Ate and had to be there. I was a newby trying to pitch in and be part of the team. I am a volunteer with Hospice Care, Shriner’s Hospital, Red Cross and our kids school.
I left after seeing how useless the Oat Tea Ate Scientologists behaved.
They were a bit off and narcissistic.
I then let my fingers do some walking on the internet and BAM! POW! BOOM!
The truth set me free.
Regular Homo Saps / Wogs get things done.
If you want something to not get done – give it to a Scientologist who can’t confront the truth when it hits them in the face daily.
They all turn into robots eventually.
Mary Kahn says
Exactly.
So glad you got out.
And yes, scientologists turn into robots who can’t confront or get anything done without making sure it’s okay with scientology.
Cindy says
Noodle Fleeting, you are so right. Yes, they all turn into robots eventually, having to have orders to act. LRH wrote a reference about Robots and SP’s and how being around an SP for so long, you turn into a robot who has to have orders in order to do anything because they are PTS to the SP. Well maybe instead of picking on your mom and dad, you could spot the real SP: David Miscavige.
Geoff Levin says
Mike, I agree. Scientology is an organization that relies on manufactured psychological barriers that then can be overcome by the fallacious mental/spiritual technology of L Ron Hubbard. The perfect hamster wheel. One of the big lies is that OTs can achieve perfection. Of course there is always something over the next hill to achieve or overcome. Scientologists believe this and keep striving to be the perfect OTs. None of them are able to see that their cohorts have all failed, specially the dead ones. I’ve come to the conclusion that 99% of all card carrying scientologists are delusional and clinically unbalanced. So nothing they do is surprising anymore. Someday soon I hope Hubbards blight will deconstruct. Mike, your continued exposure of the cult is appreciated.
jacquelin davis says
But Kirstie Alley and Little Tommy Cruise seem so sane….
Geoff Levin says
LOL. By whose standards?
Loosing my Religion says
Off topic.
I just saw a whatsapp sent by an org exec urging the public to take (pay) the next service as it will soon be Sea org day.
Apparently this day has now become a mandatory holiday even for orgs.
How do they celebrate it? A percentage of their income that week (in addition to everything else) goes to the sea org – and this is clearly said in the message to the public.
Having spent a few years on the finance lines, I don’t remember anything saying anything like that.
Already almost all of the percentages currently paid to the SO are arbitrary.
It is another beautiful and good irregularity typical of the current “management”.
It’s funny that a project, according to hubbard, had to stand on its own feet. Here they are practically taxing the orgs.
Chris Shugart says
I find it interesting that the only character of which I’m aware that so magnanimously gave his employee one day off out of the entire year was Ebeneezer Scrooge. And he resented having to do it and insisted that Bob Cratchit come in all the more earlier the next day.
jim rowles says
Apparently ‘beggary’ is an OT level unto itself. Who would have guessed.
She at least got one thing right; She has partners in crime. Fundraising without exchange IS a crime isn’t it?
Loosing my Religion says
Jim, sure. Hubbard used call them financial irregularities. Apparently very deadful stuff. But if Davey takes charge is all fine. Scoundrels.
Jane Doe 2 says
Not to be confused with buggary.