SFO is one of the first ideal orgs (the “originals” were Buffalo, Joburg, NY and SFO)…
The email accompanying this said “San Francisco is going SH Size”.
This “ideal org” had it’s ribbon yanked by the Chairman of the Bored on 29 Nov 2003. That is almost exactly 14 years ago.
FOURTEEN YEARS and this org has not expanded to the “Make-break” point, the size where staff can earn a living wage according to L. Ron Hubbard.
Of course, the other “original” “ideal” orgs are also dismal failures. Buffalo has never amounted to anything at all. New York continues to struggle. Joburg, the one truly bright light on the scientology horizon all those years ago is a mere shell of what it was at the time of it’s ribbon yanking, with a large part of its scientology field having been declared…
Hubbard himself said that orgs should achieve St Hill Size in a matter of WEEKS. That the ONLY reason they would not do so was that the staff were “not on purpose.”
Well, COB, what is wrong with your brilliant strategy that it has failed to expand any single org, let alone scientology as a whole? Even though you have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into this effort and had every scientologist operating with a one-track solution “all orgs must be ideal.”
What an abject failure.
And it is plain for the world, and all scientologists, to see. The world DOES see it, like the plethora of lies in the bubble, scientologists don’t WANT to see it…
One of our readers reminded me:
Back in 2006, SFO was declared Saint Hill size.
It was done with smoke and mirrors, as usual. Dozens of staff were recruited, mostly old-timers, not active, and were put on “Project Prepares”, meaning that they weren’t actually on staff but would ‘someday’ join.
These scans from the org mag come from a special issue that was put out to celebrate this ‘achievement’.
Also note that those missions that were opened are all closed now. Berkeley was a moribund mission but they claimed it was new.
The very short completions list made up mostly of old-timers redoing something, shows the blatant lie that they were SH sized.
The SF org on Market street was difficult to access. There was a soup kitchen around the corner, and surrounded by blocks of really sketchy people and one time I was assaulted and pushed off the sidewalk, out into traffic, while walking to the org from a nearby parking lot. The org started having to send out men to walk people to and fro their cars. It was not safe. The new org is in a relatively safer location and easier to access by BART trains and other forms of public transportation. I don’t recognise anyone in the picture of the opening, so I think that this was not a picture of actual staff.
I absolutely loved the staff at SFO in 79/80, they were kind and supportive and really making a difference before Squirrel Scn Mgmt destroyed the tech and abused so many fine people. SFO has a special place in my heart!
And I remember a Lois Francis from 80s, just now completing the purif? Same lady? Oh Shame on Thee DM and Cohorts!
Mike, any chance of getting more scans from that magazine? I’m guessing they came from another source, and would really appreciate it if that person might be able to scan all the pages relating to SF ‘going St Hill Size’ if they have time. I have actually been working on a tear down of the original St Hill Size event from what I can recall (I’d love the original event video, but can’t find it online anywhere). This idea was inspired by the Aftermath episode that talked about how fake the events are, by the way. I was one of the main volunteers at the org during that time period and my then-husband was on staff, so I know a lot about how massively inflated the claims were during the event.
Thanks,
Robyn
Well, I’ll have to give the SF org some props here, not for their accomplishments as an org but for simple kindness. My wife and I were walking around the north beach area, which the org borders, and she had to use a bathroom right away. We walked in and asked to use the restroom and they very graciously led the way and although they asked if we wanted to see a movie, they were not at all pushy.
My wife accomplished her mission and we chatted for a few minutes with the staffers then left unimpeded.They were friendly, accommodating and seemingly in good spirits. Perhaps we were a stat for just crossing the threshold?
Sure the idea org paradigm is ridiculous and not at all scientology, nor anything else useful, but most of the people in the orgs are good, decent people caught in something they don’t fully understand. I hope that is not forgotten in the clamor.
Yes, sheep can be nice. The biggest problem with Scientologists today is that they listen and don’t look – this makes them a liability because through their ignorance they further propagate an abusive system, instead of introspecting AS a group and correcting what they can so that they get along with the rest of the populace instead of simply drinking kool-aid on the Titanic. And that pattern of self-destruction been beaten into them by the rulah … err controller, David Miscavige. And while Hubbard stressed the value of looking, in other places he insisted that members not look, such as when it came to authoritarian dictates governing his “religion” of course always selflessly, “for your protection.” This is the dichotomy of Scientology and likely any mind-fuck group. But yes, the sheep generally are nice and polite like many in society act before you push their buttons.
I totally agree Dave!
Back in 1979 a friend & I were in San Francisco when we were 18 years old when we were lured into the scientology building for the testing, which we did.
I’m so glad now that I hear the stories of the horrors I could have easily been a part of if I hadn’t had a good upbringing so that I could walk away from the BS they were trying to sell me on about my personality.
Thank you so much to you & Leah for revealing the truth behind the curtain of smoke.
Does David Miscavige believe his own lies?
Like seriously, I need to know this. Is he living in complete fantasy land?
Mike, I have been following the show avidly. I am trying to understand why people with a modicum of intelligence fall for this. But all cults seem to be the same….based on money, power. Can you tell me why noone, including yourself, has ever had Miscavage arrested on assault and battery charges? Why did you and others let him get away with this and putting people in the hole. This is all illegal incarceration!
Nancy,
Some lawsuits have been attempted regarding some of the abuses, but they’ve (CO$) been able to hide behind the “religion” veil.
As for how people get involved and stay, it’s a VERY slow, insidious indoctrination process and the public Scientologists (how most people’s involvement begins) aren’t exposed to these things, especially not at first. Keep in mind that since the internet & this info being publicly available, they’ve not been able to recruit new members unless they’re family of Scientologists already. Also the “church” keeps very tight control of what paritioners read & watch, as they’re supposed to avoid “entheta” which is anything negative about Scientology. Google “Scientology Net Nanny” and you’ll find some stories about how they suppressed negative info online from existing Scientologists.
You’ll find the vast majority of ex-Scientologists (& even those still-in) are very intelligent, hard-working people. Many have parents and/or other family that is still in and they’d risk losing them to disconnection if they speak up or press charges. Also until recent years (basically once the Anonymous protests began) CO$ would aggressively set out to ruin ANYone who spoke out or left and spoke out. When you’ve got an endless budget for attorneys, PI’s and have paid-for connections in very high places, many were just plain scared because of what CO$ would do if they spoke out or brought charges.
Sorry for the novel! I am also a never-in and it took a long time & much research to truly understand why. It’s not a simple (or short) answer or reason… but once you get into reading stories of many exes & see what the “church” has done to people, it starts to make much more sense!
Mike,
We got our wires crossed– you were actually responding to an old e-mail. So I re-sent you the latest one.
Very anxious to hear your thoughts on this one!
Thanks again,
Gus
I don’t see it. Did you send it to the email address I responded to you from?
Hi Mike, I’m new to Twitter believe it or not so just trying to get in touch with you I want to share my experience as the Dir Income FLO at 15yrs old and growing up in Scientology and my ESCAPE!
Click the “Contact me” button the home page of the blog.
Interesting question. If all of the people that are supporters of you and Leah start writing letters, all at once to one specific state, regarding the tax exempt status would it help? We can conquer one state at a time
sjnque, the IRS is the main target. You could go state by state but some states have no income tax and most states follow the lead of the IRS for tax exempt status.
Hi Mike,
I wrote you a private e-mail a few weeks ago. Please write back when you have a second.
Thanks,
Gus
Just answered you. Still trying to plow through the enormous volume of emails and DM’s (and even snail mail) that has accumulated during the season. Now it’s over I will try and get to them all…
These orgs are as doomed as doomed can be.
I was just past the New York Org the other day. This is one of the original ideal orgs? Well then something must have changed since then.
Outside the front of the building there was trash and torn garbage bags strewn all over the sidewalk and curb all the way up the street to the hotel next door. People (non-Scientologists) were huddled up against the org, smoking, eating pizza, drinking soda.
If there is anything spiritually ideal going on inside the NY Org, it does not seem to be rubbing off on the general public outside. 🙂
Can you call or email the city and report the trash?
Yes, and you can get the stuff on the curb carted away too 🙂
Since I was staff in NY for over two years (the old Hotel Martinique) and that was where Hubbard, in 1967 declared in Power, Day and Foundation, the first such in scio history, I’m saddened to know how far down they have come. But heartened to see that the actions and attitudes of the orgs and staff can only hasten the complete downfall of this faux “church”.
Now that’s a lot of doom!
To @scnethics – I recognize this quote from the wonderful Martin Short character he did on “Saturday Night Live,” Ed Grimley. What a goofball. Thanks for the laugh here. Mirth amidst all these reports, observations, and realities is therapeutic!
See addition to post. SFO was declared “SH Size” in 2006, with all the usual hype and fanfare… Guess they forgot.
Gotta love the crowdsourcing – thanks for that insightful additional information.
The use of the “Project Prepares” is quite interesting – sort of like “postulating” staff who aren’t really there. I wonder if that, or something similar, is one of the tricks they use to hit the staffing quota for opening “ideal” orgs. People were scratching their heads recently over how Scientology could get what seems to be about the 160 to 175 staff for opening the new “ideal” org in Perth, when it has a typically small “field” and is the most remote of all of Scientology’s orgs; I wonder if they are counting as “Project Prepares” or something similar, people who don’t even live within a thousand miles of Perth.
I wonder how many of the people in this photo are still in, or UTR, or completely free!
Yes, I saw that!
So, Is Miscavige counting on the San Franciscan Still Ins being in the throes of pre-dementia by now ?
Is COB depending upon a tiny group of befuddled memory-challenged senior citizens to forget any and all inconvenient facts?
Man! As regards stupidity, these Sheep sure are in a Power Condition.
Their dumbness has achieved Normal in a very high, stellar range.
And just possibly, even if they were’t in the cult, someone else would be scamming or using them. Someone else, or some other organization.
“Of course, the other “original” Ideal Orgs are also failures.”
Mike, this remark along with my memory of one of your former Ideal Org articles sent me back again to New York Ideal Org’s Facebook page.
Sounds like they’re doing a brisk business – NOT.
Last Clear made was back in MARCH of this year.
EIGHT months ago!
A staff member. Not a public.
AND,( per your info, Mike) THIS Ideal Morgue was funded wholly by a YUGE 18 million IAS grant so it could open back in 2004.
Which means that NYO’s public were NOT burdened with these costs. The Sheep were not sheared to fund this Ideal M’orgue.
So, then, what’s NYO’s excuse for its puke-worthy stats?
Not enough foot traffic, maybe?
Er, no. There are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PER DAY walking around within a block of the place.
Epic fail, Miscavige. EH-PICK.
For all Ronny’s mighty powers to see the future through the eyes of a science-fiction writer . . . he utterly failed to foresee the Internet. The ability to share information and instigate a revolutionary movement with anyone, anywhere, anytime— at the speed of light no less, is slowly but surely destroying his creation. If not for their stash of cash and other assets the cos would already be kaput.
Michael, the internet, within universities and gov existed before El Tub died. He failed to notice. Robust computer communities existed while he was alive. He wasn’t too bright when it came to science and technology
To Michael Brinda and others here, I could not agree more. The existence and steady, robust use of the internet to enforce an enormous amount of transparency onto most any institution has got to be one of the biggest “Our Heads Are in the Sand” blunders of C of S leadership of the last couple decades.
The other massive and steady blunder, which does receive comment on this blog, is these C of S created “hate websites” to try to sass and ludicrously malign the reputation of one who goes against C of S. No one, but no one, buys into these super meanspirited over-the-top attempts at a narrative. Any non-Scientologist person who might encounter one of these is far more inclined to experience it as what it is: “sour grapes.” The content on these sites comes across as a churlish child on the playground, failing to get his or her way, tossing up sand and having a meltdown-tantrum. We have all seen this in real-life many times: WITH TODDLERS.
In other words, the sites and related poor attempts at attacks using social media are simply ridiculous, plus the word I said earlier: transparent. Transparent to any who actually look at them. They are not designed to “win anyone over,” who is not already an “Us against Them” Still-In with some rabid elements to their character. (In other words, these are not even going to appeal to all who are Still-In, because many of them are kind, gentle, decent, smart people. What a turn-off.)
The goodness in me speculates: With most in the group, staff and public—starting back in about 2012— going back onto their Objectives (processing interacting with physical universe to get a person more fully into Present Time), there MUST be individuals in the group who are noting these things, these “outpoints.” There simply MUST BE. You can’t have that many talented, otherwise very able people undergoing over 100 hours of Objective Processing and delivering same to your twin (since many are co-audits), not result in a few noticing these ridiculously bad leadership habits of the last 20 or so years.
The realist in me—and the one who has gotten more educated about the group being on this blog, as well as other sources—speculates the likelihood of any such voice being not-ised, silenced, declared a Suppressive Person, and told to leave is high. I do comprehend how this strange tapestry Hubbard left in place of “administrative policy” will continue to make it impossible for this group to exist in a uniformly clean fashion. THAT is part of the cleverness of the trap: you do believe all is “clean,” when it super, duper is NOT. #WhatAStunner
It makes me truly sad, because I am one of those where each service I did, I fully enjoyed and got a lot out of it. Can I say I got a half a million dollars of value out of it? Probably not. The costs are ridiculous and scandalous, no dissent there. But a lot of the core, early services, and some of the basics of auditing—having an “Out-List” identified and corrected on the meter, as one for instance—are helpful for a refreshed outlook in one’s mental and emotional existence. I speak from both the receiving (as a “preclear”), as well the delivering side as a classed auditor.
Really appreciate this blog community. It is the chief source of my un-programming.
I had a blinding cognition (should I write a Success Story?). I finally realised WHY the Billion year contract is just that and not a mere million or hundred million – clearly it is because a billion years is more or less exactly how long it will take to clear the planet at current rate of progress. .
I visited the San Francisco “ideal” org one afternoon, several years ago. The course rooms were empty. So was the Purif area. Except for three or four staff, the place was morgue.
Hence the name, Idle Morgue. It’s Idle because no one is coming in. And Morgue because this is where you go to die spiritually.
I have a great idea to keep taking down Scientology and showing it’s dwindling numbers. Simply have DSLR time lapse cameras secretly posted across the street monitoring the in’s and out’s of every Ideal Org, etc. around the world showing, no doubt, little to no traffic even during prominent times of the day/week.
Then release these on the Internet. Using their own camera BS techniques against them. Two can play at that game.
Indeed a great idea, Fesarius!
Love this!!
Awesome idea Fesarius.
“with a large part of its scientology field having been declared…”
You’d think that the goal of being the “fastest growing religion” would tap them on the shoulder from time to time so they’d notice that all these SP declares make it the fastest shrinking religion. Back when the Roman Catholic church was much stricter about such things, my grandmother was ex-communicated and so could not receive communion after she divorced and re-married. However, she was allowed to continue attending daily mass, and she counted herself a Catholic her entire life. By forcing these all-or-nothing decisions, Scientology essentially anti-recruits its committed members. (Before even considering the effect of all the bad press earned by its abusive and unethical treatment of its underage and adult workers.)
I have often noticed that it was the most dedicated supporters who got hit the hardest. If you will give to the CofS, they will take all you will give and demand more. And more. And More. And MORE! They are a “charge all the traffic will bear” organization, so if the traffic will bear being indentured servant or a near eternal slave, that was fine. They seemed intent on making people into fools for helping them. I know they recruited me under false pretenses both times, then when their lies brought destruction to my life they didn’t take a shred of responsibility but made me out to be the bad guy for being mad about them hurting me.
Instead of honoring their staff members for their hard work and sacrifice, they just make them out to be a “out ethics, low IQ, druggies, incapable of duplicating straight LRH, or else their org would already be big and booming!”. I overheard two CLOWUS (middle management org at PAC) SO members say so, and certainly saw the same attitude reflected by many other SO members later.
At my org, when one of my former teammates died of cancer after volunteering for thirty years, the ED complained that she was dropping her hat due to her cancer so didn’t a deserve a memorial. After THIRTY YEARS OF VOLUNTEERING!
They are so evil towards their own workers, it sure defied my belief. I never dreamed that people claiming to be “making a better world” could be so cruel and callous without even blinking. They seem to have a knack of making enemies of their once most ardent supporters.
CofSers become so lacking in normal human empathy and compassion, and so fucked up by CofSes “the end justifies the means” mentality that they will do almost anything even to people who come to them out of love to help them in their time of darkest need after they were betrayed by their own management, from human trafficking them to forcing their own teammates to kill their babies, to trying to get them to cancel their wedding and abandon their pregnant fiance. All without blinking, and while beating their chests about how “ethical” they are – the most ethical group on the planet!
Powerful post, Gene. Yes, they are just SOOO ethical! Major joke. One day they’ll have to face up to all the wrong they did in the name of “Greatest Good”…yes, like the Crusades and the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials. They also were done for the Greatest Good. Sad.
I have often said that one word sums up scientology in a nutshell: CRUEL.
your post helps to illustrate the depths of brainwashing – what does it take to bring an individual fully in line with all of this, to the point where he can then explain how all of these actions are actually beneficial – beneficial to the point of being all part of saving mankind. ?? The depths of brainwashing that causes an entire group to devoutly believe and forward all of this and sacrifice every waking moment to this?
“the plethora of lies in the bubble.”
Lies by Miscavige; lies by Hubbard. It all ended in lies. Hubbard (Lucifer), started with lies and he ended in lies. Scientologists – what is the truth for you? Hubbard claimed he would return in the role of the anti-Christ. That is something hidden from you. Also hidden from you is the fact that Hubbard copied a lot of “whole track” and “Tone Scale” data from the Theosophists at the turn into the 20th century. Your modern “technology” is two centuries behind. History of Man was not Hubbard’s idea. Theosophists thought of it first.
George, this is interesting. I’d like to read some of this stuff from the Theosophists (and I have no idea who they were by the way; I’ll have to do some research) Anyway, if you have a reference or so on this it would be appreciated. Seriously,
Madame Blavatsky wrote two huge volumes which took me over 6 months to read. They are difficult books. There were hundreds of followers in the early 20th century. Rudolf Steiner is the easiest to read but he broke with her. Annie Bessant took over in England after Blavatsky died. She developed the subject. Blavatsky’s “Isis Unveiled” is easier to read than “Secret Doctrine” which is a bear.
George – Your comment here didn’t appear until after I made my comment below. Anyhow, Hello George!
Thanks, George – well, I read anything so I’ll give this a go.
Just read Richard’s comment, George. I’ll check in with your website when it goes up. I’ve always been interested in tracing down the origins of religions and religious practices. Fascinating stuff to me, as is etymology, tracing the root meanings of words down to their earliest, initial concept.
George – As Aqua mentions above I think it would be interesting if you included one or two specifics in your general comments as you did on Marty’s blog two years ago when you began your investigation into Hubbard’s occult and otherwise background. I found it interesting when you mentioned various terms from Hubbardology such as thetans, marcabs and various symbolisms which were drawn from earlier occultism, the Kabalah and so on. Looking forward to you getting your website up and running.
I’m now rereading a book called “Buddhism – A Way of Life and Thought” by Nancy Wilson Ross. It’s highly acclaimed as a general introduction to Buddhism and is now available in paperback reprint from Amazon. Here’s a quote which might be of interest to ex scn-ists:
During its long centuries of quiet pilgrimage by land and sea, much of Buddhism’s powerful influence may have had its source in the deliberate avoidance of claims to exclusive Truth, adherence to inflexible dogma, or the authority of any final, sacrosanct, theocratic hierarchy. The “Come and see for yourself” attitude of the original Great Teacher, Siddhartha Gautama, who became the Buddha, the Enlightened One, his pragmatic insistence on “Don’t take my word for it. Try it yourself!”, the unswerving challenge of his famous aphorism, “Look within, thou art the Buddha” – all this served to lower the resistance that so often attends the arrival of a new and unfamiliar faith.
I first discovered that book in my local small town library and hoarded it for six months. I could rarely read more than a couple of pages without setting the book down and contemplating what was being said. The author includes many interesting and often humorous episodes from Buddhist lore.
I sometimes see a pair of Scientologists in the Powell St. BART station in San Francisco, standing at a table with an e-meter. They are outnumbered by Jehovah’s Witnesses — there are TONS of JWs here. I’m not a fan of the JWs either, but they have a much heavier presence than the local Scientologists.
yeah, I take MARTA daily in Atlanta, and there are usually 4, never fewer than 3, JWs handing out The Watchman every single day at my main station. I saw some idiot reading Dianetics on the train once, and that’s about all the cult activity I’ve ever seen.
Step and marvel at the Scientology magic trick. Now you see me, now you don’t, doing its ideal disappearing act before your very eyes.
For all you beginners in this Scientology stuff. Sit in a chair, now stand up and move away. Good, now look back at the chair you were just sitting in and ask yourself, “is that chair now empty?” If your answer is no – that’s Scientology!
I can’t for the life of me figure out why Mr. D is spending so much money on buildings. I know he has no interest in expanding the Scientology Religion, obviously, but other than spending for the sake of spending … is there a tax advantage to doing so … investment value … anyone know?
I have explained this a few times.
It serves several purposes:
1. To keep the IRS at bay. Exempt organizations cannot accumulate too much cash. Scientology doesnt want to “give away” money on “charity” (food and housing for poor or natural disaster victims). Buying buildings to “serve the parishioners” is considered a valid expense by the IRS
2. It is a way to convince the world (and more specifically he scientology public) that scientology is “expanding” — “look at all our new churches”
3. It is a fundraising bonanza — Miscavige has convinced everyone that when “all orgs are ideal” he will “release OT IX and X”
4. Because of the way his stat is counted, property is just as good as cash. His stat is total “Reserves” which actually means “assets”, so buying buildings with his cash does not have his stat go down…
Good post, Mike
You have explained it very well
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Mike, thanks for the explanation.
I’d like to add that reports are, that this sort of subterfuge really does work with the remaining indoctrinated membership, as implausible as that may seem to outsiders. It’s like North Korea, where the populace apparently believes bizarre things, such as that their leadership could win a nuclear war with the US.
I also suspect it buys time with the IRS, as illogical as that might initially seem as well, because the government has to wait and let time pass before they could try to make a case that Scientology has no realistic chance of ever filling the large empty buildings, and instead is just hoarding wealth through another means.
Peacemaker, unfortunately i doubt the government has much interest in checking back or tracking how many people have been filling these empty Scientology Ideal Morgues since they were created, even though doing so might help to build them a case for taking away the cult’s tax exempt status. Empty churches of all faiths abound. Religious attendance in this country has been going steadily down for decades. I don’t think the government cares.
Who is going to bust him if his stat is down? Anyone even stating that he is downstat would be RPFed or tossed in the hole. However, his stats are up: Dead, bankrupt parishioners, SP declares, destroyed families, and crimes of all kinds are in affluence. So he will follow the Affluence Attainment formula: Do the things that won, not new things untried as yet; like being human. Someone should take pictures of all of the gravestones of his victims and publish them. However, most of them were probably creamated to eliminate the evidence. It is his “Final Solution”.
In regards to point four. What happens if the real estate market locally crashes? In Vancouver there’s an org that must be worth millions, on prime downtown real estate in a city in the midst of the bubble to end all bubbles. When the crash comes and the value of the land plunges to 1/10th its current nominal value, will those left in the Vancouver org be held to blame for their massive downstat?
Doesn’t matter J.T. real-estate ALWAYS eventually goes up. Supply & demand as more people are populating the Earth every day.
BTW, the land in V.C. will NOT plunge to 1/10 its current value. At least not for more than 5 seconds. LOL
Mike, take those 4 points and post a “Why Building purchases by CoS” page.
“Miscavige has convinced everyone that when “all orgs are ideal” he will “release OT IX and X”
OT IX and X – That’s gonna be a real hoot & holler… I imagine there will be quite an exodus after the last few OT VIIIs go through those! Assuming Miscavige is ever able to conjure something up and release it, anyway.
As for what ever pretense levels David Miscaviage might be promising to the public is just a sick joke utterly insane .Its Fake promotional promises as far as reality is concerned.. On what grounds can he say he has released it/ e:g question is who Trained him ? or who trained who?
It’s an ongoing amazement that it is so difficult for quite a lot people to grasp – the Church of Scientology is a criminal organisation! It’s so easily proven with a bit of research. Trying to understand or make sense of its lies or being confused about them is exactly what they rely on. The Church survives financially and legally by hiding behind its tax exempt religious status and therefore constitutional protections. The courts don’t what to know about them and are powerless to prosecute. Scientology was bad enough with its lies from day 1 but when it manipulated the IRS to grant “tax exemption,” the gloves came off and the arrogance blossomed. The true history of the Church of Scientology is not for the faint hearted or well intentioned person to enjoy. The church destroys people’s dreams, aspirations & lives for money.
Real estate is wealth and when you can get other people to give it to you for a handful of lies, WOW! The mob does it with guns and standover tactics, Scientology does it with lies and religious constitutional protection. Is it so difficult to grasp that Miscavige only uses other people’s money and that he stays with the parameters that allow him to do so?
Apparently the evidence is easy to ignore. But spend a moment and contemplate just what sort of person Miscavige actually is… his track record follows a set pattern and is littered with shattered lies, even his own family are repulsed by his actions.
Thank you Mike and Leah you have done so much to take down Scientology.
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Brief history of SFO – in the 70s it was at 414 Mason St and was just one floor of a small office building. Which also had the Better Business Bureau and the Theosophical Society, ironically. But that small flat of office space was crammed full of eager beaver Scientologists, and more in the basement shouting at ashtrays.
Then for some unfathomable reason they moved it to a tiny building in the South of Market district (wrong side of town in those days) at 83 McAllister St. Not far from the civic center and library, but still in a “dangerous” area. Attendance fell off but they were still doing OK using public feeding in from the thriving COSMOD mission network and Stevens Creek Mission etc.
Now they have a beautiful building in one of the nicest areas, but no public. The mission network that was feeding people into them for services was dismantled by Dave, and the local folks that stream by their building have little patience for them. A beautiful shell with no clams inside.
No clams inside? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! I’m sorry. I shouldn’t laugh at them. I’m sure they’re trying their best, but, Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Shouting at ashtrays. That is just too pathetic, isn’t it.
it was so much fun.
………..
lies and a waste of life, total lunacy, but we enjoyed it at the time.
Does anyone believe that Miscavige has finally figured out that his strategy of building massive multi-million dollar buildings in order to try to convince the public that Scientology is rapidly growing and expanding is not fooling anyone? Is it at all possible that COB has finally come to terms with the fact that his impressive-looking yet empty buildings are not actually impressing anyone in the real world?
I’m an outsider, and I have always found it very difficult to understand how Miscavige could actually believe that his “Ideal Org” scam would lead anyone besides his parishioners, who he shelters from all media, news, and true statistics, that his “church” was really growing in followers rather than simply in real estate. While Miscavige does everything he can to shelter all members of his “church” from knowing the truth about everything from the actual number of worldwide members to the number of addicts helped by Narcanon, he himself knows what the real numbers are. So is it possible he’s finally stopped brainwashing himself? And if so, what will his next strategy be to keep the current Scientologists in the “church” instead of having all of them learn the truth and just blow?
“….. to try to convince the public that Scientology is rapidly growing and expanding is not fooling anyone?….”
That’s the problem with a crackpot quack subject.
The content of the quack subject is the main underlying (and in a constant state of denial to the followers who are still in the “hope” stage that the quack subject is gonna work for them) problem.
False hopes in the “OT” supernatural powers and wisdom they will supposedly achieve.
Hubbard protected his quackery with policies like Keeping Scientology Working, and institutionalized blaming the staffs and members for failing to make the losing proposition quackery work.
Hubbard’s nasty policies backfire and rebound on them.
All that they could really improve on, would be to peel off huge swathes of Hubbard’s entrenched nasty backfiring “ethics” and disconnection policies, but Hubbard’s left them little options to do this.
The only option would be to go start splinter groups, but then where do those lead? No “OTs” in the splinter groups either that have caught on.
So it’s all a backfiring rebounding dismal no win situation in the long run any way you turn in the Scientology quackery subject.
We are never-ins, but I think my husband hit upon the reason for change so much investment in buildings, land and properties in general. Real estate equals money! Scientology is or will go down, at least as known today, but the real estate holdings will always be a fortune. Even if they lose tax exemption and people they still will have tremendous fortune. I am sure Miscavige has managed to have a bulk of the assets with him as a primary or sole owner or whatever would be beneficial for him to maintain a fortune. Sorry this rambles.
Ellen,
I’d say that Miscavige will “figure out” that his blatant scam AKA The Ideal Org Program is “not fooling anyone”,when people in the cult stop giving him money for it.
Of course, I’m being facetious because Miscavige has known all along that no organization can expand this way, and his real purpose for Ideal Morgues has nothing to do the the actual expansion of the Scientology religion.
But the Sheeple bought this bullshit from him and are still buying it, still giving him money for it, so why shouldn’t he milk the scam for all its worth for as long as possible?
Ellen asked, “Is it at all possible that COB has finally come to terms with the fact that his impressive-looking yet empty buildings are not actually impressing anyone in the real world? ”
His plan wasn’t to impress non-scamologists.
‘The difference between not doing it and doing it is simply having the purpose of doing it and then doing it’. – You can ‘word clear’ this from now ’till doomsday; it will Still be GIBBERISH.
ALL of Hubbard’s prognostications are just that…Gibberish!
…..and only Hubbard’s 1940 fiction pulp story, “One Was Stubborn” did Hubbard create a fiction character, the George Smiley cult leader who was successful! Only in fiction, did Hubbard’s cult leader succeed. Hubbard who tried on the role of Scientology cult leader and founder, failed, and thankfully his despair moments admitting failure are now in the public record, as of the printing of the final pages in Lawrence Wright’s “Going Clear….” book final pages and also in the DVD “Going Clear…”with the Wright interview of Sarge.
The glossy propaganda pieces, with smiling faces and exciting news, usually have some lame-ass quotation from the old buffoon LRH. And to me these quotes are usually complete nonsense, and almost feel like they were randomly generated words pulled out of a hat. His writing is SO BORING too.
This org is located at the confluence of Columbus & Montgomery Streets, two major thoroughfares in the heart of SF; for all the foot traffic that traverses either side of this building, it should be as busy as a water fountain in the Sahara… I was strolling by here a few weekends ago, at mid-day on a Saturday, and it was dead, dead, dead, save for a few staff. The rents around there are exorbitant – for example, the Transamerica Pyramid is right around the corner, as are other Corp. HQs – so lil’ Davey’s paying a steep price to maintain this charade… I’ve said this before, that for all the supposed IO activity here in the Bay Area, it might as well be in Mauritius (or any remote island for that matter), as Scn gets no press, no mention in social media, save for their own pathetic efforts, and given the potential pool of affluent techies here, zero buzz whatsoever amongst that vital demographic. Epic fail all-around…
I once worked in the Transamerica Pyramid building, on one of the upper floors. The thing about the financial district is that is that as busy as it is during the week, it’s dead on the weekend; very little foot traffic compared to the weekdays. It seems logical that the best day for body routing would be a Saturday or a Sunday when passersby aren’t in such a hurry. Locating an org in the heart of the financial district had to be an act of sheer stupidity. Oh, and forget about trying to find a parking space – which means if you drive there, you’ll pay top dollar at a parking garage. What a totally ridiculous waste of money and resources!
When I lived there, the Civic Center (City Hall, the library, the Opera House and a bunch of other government buildings) was over-run with panhandlers, winos and mentally disturbed street people. In other words a locale where social services and assistance were sorely needed. I doubt that any $cions ever went anywhere near there.
Wasn’t it LRH’s, and now DM’s police that an org should NEVER be shut down? These are fun times to be a scientology watcher!
Bix, the amount of social outreach and “betterment” opportunities for Scn in The City are off the charts, further exposing the dearth of any form of “public benefit” from Scn. The sidewalk that Saturday had a considerable flow of folks, especially on Montogomery, which is a main pedestrian artery to Market street, in keeping with your observation of a more leisurely pace, susceptible to body routers. I loved working in SF, as it was a very “walkable” city, especially in the Financial district. BTW, in noting the horn in your snap, is the “bix” in your moniker in honor of Bix Beiderbecke? Speaking as a big jazz guy myself ?
Its absolutely useless making ideal Org’s if no one is coming into them , stats wise needs verifying what actual numbers are going into them , and productions being achieved , completions of auditing levels ,and training ,e:g auditors trained , and levels of training achieved added the well done auditing hrs for example . I do not think will match the making of ideal Org’s and its a fake representation both to its public, and those viewing from outside. misleading and dishonest.
Your point?
the point is Its a useless exercise if buildings are standing empty
They only need people at photo ops. It’s a dog and pony show for the whales to get their no strings attached dono money.
Mimsey
It’s right in KSW#1 – you can only be upbraided for lack of results. Fix the tech, admin and policy if you want to see a resurgence and expansion. Good luck with that. ;p
Mimsey
And if anyone was smart enough to actually DO THAT, Miscavige would certainly destroy them. I believe his only desire is to kill it off entirely. My bet is a LOT of funds have long ago gone offshore and soon, so will he.
“My bet is a LOT of funds have long ago gone offshore and soon, so will he.”
That’s my guess, too. I’m curious whether he could be prosecuted for that if he did that and then later returned to the US. I’m also curious whether he would have enough remaining devotees to do his bidding and keep him hidden, as with Hubbard.
Peter and Cat,
Totally agree makes three. And Cat, I can’t answer your first question because I’m not a legal person but if he does get away with keeping most of the money, he’ll be so rich that getting people to aid, comfort, nurture and protect him will be a breeze. Even now, his closest and most trusted confidantes are his attorneys and they’re not Scientologists. I am of the personal opinion that he mostly hates, distrusts and fears Scientologists.
Sigh. Lovely building in my 2nd most loved city in the US. What a waste.
Uh no. KSW is also about enforcing blind certainty upon people who don’t get a chance to first observe or achieve understanding. In other words, it is making fanaticism – certainty in uninspected ideas. One such idea uninspected idea is that “you can only be upbraided for lack of results”.
As a narcissistic abuser he clearly had huge moral and ethical blind spots. Even if one is getting some level of “result” (which was never what was claimed) one can certainly be upbraided for throwing one’s juniors off the side of a ship if they ever make a mistake, while not even paying them. Or locking children in chain lockers.
Hubbard didn’t want to think about or admit to being an abusive asshole so he actually forbade SO members from wearing their wet clothes after they were overboarded so he wouldn’t be reminded that he was a vicious abuser and feel guilty. I imagine that DM has a similar mentality or the abuse would have stopped long ago.
He seemed to love putting people who he knew to be vicious into positions of power where they might hurt their juniors. He only told them to temper the lightning with some sunshine every so often. He didn’t expect them to be good boy or girls so he forgave them totally emotionally destroying their juniors with SRAs, flushing their juniors heads in toilets
Not so those disgusting homosexuals. Unlike people Hubbard knew to be vicious abusers, those disgusting homosexuals were forbidden from holding an executive position. Hubbard didn’t run off Otto Roos (who unlike DM to his credit eventually recanted his abusive ways) for abusing the staff, he ran off John McMaster, the World’s First Clear, the most civilized person many people had ever met, for being a disgusting cock sucking faggot.
Even to this day from what I understand DM screams about his staffer being disgusting faggots sucking cock on Hollywood boulevard as he abuses them, allows them to be abused, and exploits them mercilessly while he lives like a prince. He doesn’t see anything wrong with that. Either did Hubbard. Neither apparently do any remaining CofSers. To me, those who remain are either the abusers themselves or boot licking lackeys who supported the abuse and got rid of those of us who stood up to it.
Scientology’s Headfirst downspiral . itll b over soon enuff. Or soon as our government puts their foot down .
The reason ideal orgs don’t make it isn’t very hard to see. The Bridge may still look the same as it did 30 years ago, but the reality is that scn as applied is quite different and frankly doesn’t deliver any results. When I came in I still enjoyed all the courses and even the grades auditing (to a degree – though I found them overall boring).
When the Basics became the main thing, I went on course to study them. I found too many inconsistencies and just didn’t like having to clear my words, when word clearing obviously wasn’t the problem. I was always a good student. The real problem was that LRH was talking crap. I don’t believe those lectures were ever meant to be studied, as he changed the tech all the time and was clearly progressing by trial and error. So why learn the errors? Eventually I only did the Basics courses by extension, and finally I realised that only 5% of what he said had any relevance, and that 5% was in the red and white volumes anyway – so why listen to the lectures? The PDC’s were the final straw. Just drivel. It was a short step to not doing scn at all. Your bad, Dave.
“The real problem was that LRH was talking crap.”
Love it, love it! This says it all.
I’m not sure that it’s so much that “scn as applied is quite different,” as that other circumstances that actually played important roles, have changed. Principally, I think that 30 or more years ago, Scientology attracted a lot of good people as auditors, who had the innate skills for listening and empathy that made them naturally effective at talk therapy, almost regardless of the framework of the modality they were using; plus there were a lot of well-intentioned members who got to do a lot of co-auditing of other, that was just a sort of group therapy but nonetheless rewarding if not even beneficial. I think the “ideal” orgs are an aspect or symptom of a misguided attempt to adapt to changing circumstances, such as societal and generational shifts, by applying excessive regimentation.
LOL! No matter where or what form it takes, scamology is a failure.
A year after its “launch” the First independent CoS cannot even put up a working website.
The fail is baked right in to the “tek”.
Scientologists have cheered the Chairman of the Bored for Scientology’s success or blamed him for its failure. But once they are “out” (for whatever reason) and get a few years of free access to information and “peal back the onion layers” they eventually find that LRH betrayed them for money and power (slaves). I was “in” for 35 years and “out” for 12 years and I just figured this out last year.
In Russia some ex-scn like me have a in-house joke, people who are freshly out usually see pair Hubbard-COB as Lenin-Stalin, first great leader who opened a new powerful era and second is a cruel dictator, who fucked up everything good in lenins ideas. But after some time they start to see who practiced who’s ideas after all
Dave,
Upbraided Update:
You are being upbraided.
What did your buddy Ron have to say about being ‘upbraided’? Something about KSW. LOL
Anyway, the Danny and Shelly ‘matters’ won’t go away.
Is it true that the Los Angeles abuse Task Force is beginning to refer to them as the Danny Masterson and Shelly Miscavige INVESTIGATIONS?
Have you considered hiring Loretta to replace your Muffins?
Aghhhh yes….the San Fransisco Morgue…..
Costs a fortune to keep the “smoke and mirrors” up….
Still…after all these years….the San Fransisco mORGue is still empty, failed, and dead more than eva!
It is all so “theta”!
Keep reporting the good news. Makes my day!!
Yes, good news indeed. I used to work in the financial district and walked past that building daily (I left SF before it got infected). That’s prime real estate. If they own the building, the property taxes and upkeep are huge. If they don’t own the building, the lease has got to be astronomical. There’s a lot of foot traffic there, mostly business people and wheeler dealers walking briskly. Most of them will be savvy about scientology, I feel sorry for the poor slobs who have to hand out flyers and attemp body routing. Well, not all that sorry, truth be told.
No property taxes for the “church”. If that gets revoked, boy will that be another story!
Sherry, then DM will just sell the place for a large profit. He’ll pay taxes on that but still come out ahead.
Oops, forgot about that.
Idle, I believe the full name is, San Francisco Model Idle Morgue. And ‘Morgue’ is very appropriate as this is where you go to die spiritually…and hand over all your money.
OSD – spot on my friend….spot on!!
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Beautiful Building though. Curious how they keep the lights on. Does IAS bail out these failing orgs? I know Dallas was making deals with utility companies a while back and that org isn’t doing any better now.
This is why we call them, ‘Idle Morgues.’
Yes…. it was my postulate OSD…. that came true, ??????
I thought the same, Mary. I wonder if it is on the National Historic Reg as it looks old ? Reminiscent of the Flat Iron bldg in NYC.
If you look closely at the building you’ll see the words “Transamerica Corporation” still chiseled on it. It is a historic San Francisco building and the Pyramid was built right across the street in 1972.
How can they work 14 hours a day, seven days a week for 14 YEARS, and go “backwards” in their mission? “Someone” is not pulling their weight! Ms. Rachel should be able to do a “double”!
Does scn newsletters for English speaking world mention something about Moscow ideal org now?
And by the way who is Chill E B? He is here in IAS reg tour and marked as a “famous rapper”
Moscow is never mentioned. None of the orgs that have ALREADY been declared “ideal” are ever mentioned. Only the future ones as a way of collecting more money.
Chill EB is a scientology created “star”. Nobody outside scientology has ever heard of him. Scientology loves to hype him, Alfraudie Johnson and Michael Roberts as IAS fundraisers because they are not caucasian. Makes scientology seem “integrated.”
This is rather strange, Moscow org at least have a public, there are around 50-60 stuff(day and foundation combined₽ and, Second place in a birthday game last 2-3 years, and, according to court materials after last police raids it produce at least a million of dollar a month.
Ahhh yes Mike…. $cientology’s token Blacks
Poor fools! They mean well but are totally getting used.
God help them if they ever wake up and learn the whole truth how $cientology is a total and utter SCAM!
Thanks for the post, Mike.
Hello Mike:)
As usual – great post. Did I EVER expect anything less?!
The ‘Chairman of the Bored’ had me REALLY LOL. Husband thinks I am nuts:P He loves me though:))))
Take care and keep on kicking butt:)
Maria
xxx
LRH was right. The difference is having the purpose to do it and then doing it.
DM has no purpose to clear the planet, only to rip off more money than anyone else.
His purpose is a success (for him) just as Hitler succeeded in his purpose of killing millions of people.
Bill, since clear doesn’t exist it really matters not.
Well said.
Wynski, no offense, but my ack was for what Dead Men said, plus in full disclosure (its impossible for me to lie to you, Wynski. For some reason I’m always compelled to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to you ) I’m not certain as yet that Clear does not exist, the exception being that definition of “Clear” as found in DMSMH. THAT definition I’m quite sure does not exist in the world as we know it. But there are other definitions…
El Con’s definition Aqua. Otherwise there is no way to communicate. Yes, there could be an infinite number of made up definitions. (people who can spin on their heads, could be a made up definition) But, that isn’t relevant to the topic at hand.
True. Point taken and agreed. But in the Tech Dictionary there are a several definitions other than the one from DMSMH. But forget that for now as I’d have to look them up first.. I can’t recall them off the top of my head right now. I do get your point, though, and its important. Its quite possible that many including myself have subjectified the pure definition, i.e. have taken LRH’s worrds and mingled them with each of our own, varying, personally indicating and subjective concepts of what a “Clear” would be.
Not hard to do Aqua since El Con was all over the map himself on the subject. Clear, Theta clear, cleared theta clear, etc.
When one makes a life of lying it becomes difficult to remember what one lied about.
“If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”
― Mark Twain
Your right and whether D M may not have killed any one ( hopefully not ) ( but as far as the state of each staff members minds that remain are concerned under his spell ,they are mentally disturbed and appear to have no rights to speak freely and in fear to not freely think or say , yes some make it out . He should be held accountable for his crimes of damaging their minds to be unable to think for themselves, and this distraught state a lot are in including those who left .Its not Scientology and that should be blasted out world wide.to make a noise so heard.
What do you mean that DM has not killed anyone? You mean that he did not personally kill anyone. Well neither did the Fuehrer Adolf Hitler. He had someone else do it for him. I could give you names of those he has killed by proxy. Personally, I (and this is just me) prefer Hitler. One of my juniors on the Freewinds (Klaus Lohman) was a member of the Hitler Youth during the war. This is clearly not an out-qual for the Sea Org. ( He was a nice guy). Hitler stated in 1922 in Mein Kaumph that the Jews needed to be eliminated. He was less covert than Miscaviage. LRH said that people in covert hostility were more dangerous than those in other tones. Now, I do not say that DM is worse that Hitler but at least Hitler killed himself. We do not know how many others DM will have killed or destroyed.
Heil Miscaviage!
Have to smile at you comments actually well put
Dead Men, If he ever faces the choice of jail and public humiliation, or death by his own hand, I’ll lay odds he’d opt for the latter.