THIS POST CREATED MORE INTEREST THAN USUAL, AND AS IT IS A HOLIDAY WEEKEND I AM TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT AND SIMPLY UPDATING IT FOR TODAY WITH A NEWS ITEM THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE POINT SO STARKLY IT COULD NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE.
See one of the hundreds of articles reporting on this below and note a few things about it.
First, the photo of the Pope out shaking hands with the “ordinary people.”
Second, that he is taking two refugee families into the Vatican.
Third that he is calling for all Catholic parishes, monasteries and religious communities to also host refugee families (and of course, by example, he is asking all catholic families to do the same).
Fourth he has made the Vatican available for homeless to get showers and haircuts.
Can you imagine Miscavige doing any of these things?
Me either….
ORIGINAL POST:
Well, he certainly WANTS to be.
He desperately seeks recognition as the “leader of a worldwide religion.” He self-identifies as the “ecclesiastical leader of the scientology religion” and has his lawyers file documents in court that attempt to position him as one of the great religious leaders on earth. He likes to parallel himself with the Catholic Pope — an old refrain in response to media requests for interviews with a deadline before publication is “you would not ask the Pope to make himself available on such short notice, so why should you expect me to do so.” He has used this with the BBC, with CNN, with ABC, with the Tampa Bay Times and other media over the years.
There are plenty of things that distinguish David Miscavige from real religious leaders that I will not comment on here.
But there is ONE thing I think is worthy of note and it sprang to mind the other day when I was reading the latest nuttiness put out by the church as “PR.”
There are plenty of readily identifiable religious leaders in the world, very much including the Bishop of Rome, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Dalai Lama, Ayatollah Khamenei in Iran, the Patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church etc etc
Whether you agree or disagree with them, these men adopt positions that provide guidance to their adherents on social and moral issues. They publicly express their opinions about matters of concern to the world and to the followers of their religion.
What they DON’T do is talk about themselves and their accomplishments.
You don’t hear the Pope or the Dalai Lama discussing how many buildings they have added to their real estate portfolio. You don’t find them putting out press releases talking about what they have done that warrants the admiration of the masses. Ever. It’s just not their role.
They talk to the media because they WANT to get their message delivered to the world. And as the LEADER of their religion, their voice is what carries most weight in setting forth the position of their church, temple, congregation or whatever.
In contrast, Miscavige NEVER talks to the media. He has statements put forth under someone else’s name, many of them patently ridiculous (“provable bullshit” anyone?) and most of them launching vicious personal mud-slinging attacks on anyone that displeases him. But there is one other element: those statements almost always talk about HIS accomplishments and how much he is respected, admired and beloved.
Why isn’t David Miscavige standing up and taking positions on the social issues of today based on his sincerely held religious beliefs? Why doesn’t he come out with a statement about where scientology really stands on gay marriage and LGBT rights? Or abortion? Or gun control? Or immigration? Or healthcare? Or anything?
The ONLY statements that emanate from the dark bowels of scientology are a) attacks on “critics” calling them uninformed bigots and many other names b) crowing about how many buildings they have and the massive expansion scientology is experiencing under the brilliant leadership of David Miscavige and c) self-congratulatory statements about the “humanitarian” works scientology is engaged in (but remarkably are NEVER covered by any other media — because they consist almost entirely of “photo ops” and vanish as soon as the video cameras stop rolling).
Even Louis Farrakhan speaks to his followers and the press about social issues. He is not a recluse like Miscavige. And certainly none of these other legitimate religious leaders hide from taking stands and putting themselves into the limelight.
Without doubt the Pope is the biggest religious leader on this earth. When he flies somewhere he has a plane full of journalists that he chats with. He is out interacting with people in the world. Holding audiences. Meeting with leaders and people of all shapes and colors. He personally presents the church position on all sorts of issues.
The Dalai Lama is certainly no shrinking violet and is unafraid of the media or people.
So too down the line with every person you can legitimately denominate as a religious leader.
Miscavige is a religious leader wannabe and perhaps he should learn from the legitimate religious leaders in society and at least pretend to try emulating them.
Instead, he follows in the fine tradition Kim Jong Un and his father and grandfather.
A more apt description for Miscavige would be tin-pot dictator of scientology.
And he has learned from his North Korean mentors well.
Minions who issue self-aggrandizing press statements. Check.
His only appearances are staged events before adoring crowds of true believers who hang on his every word. Check.
He has utter disdain for anyone outside his bubble of sycophants. Check.
He pretends to lord over a flourishing empire that he has single-handedly turned into a model for everyone else in the world to follow — including constructing grand, empty show-buildings. Check.
He refuses to be interviewed by any legitimate journalist. Check.
He disposed of anyone who disagrees with him without sorrow or a second thought. Check.
And finally. there is the hair. Check.
Does a religious leader live in a $20 million home? Get a new $5,000 suit every week? Buy vintage, antique cars? Have gourmet meals delivered to him each day? Make his followers buy him a gift every Christmas?
Dave’s a very special religious leader.
DM had that look before Fearless Leader in North Korea. It may be he has been attempting to mimic Joe Stalin. He does like to say he has chrome steel qualities. That haircut is very much like uncle Joe. I guess if Stalin had been castrated in his youth he may have been a bit like DM.
There certainly is enough empty real estate in the church of scientology to house millions of refugees. I’m sure David Miscavige would be willing to open His doors once he qualifies the refugees’ bank accounts. After all, He doesn’t want DB’s. The church of scientology is for the Able.
Hi Roger Hornaday,The post you sent here proves to me why you will always have my heart.Thank you Ann B.
Hi Roger,Do not know where my head is this AM.Your post I refer to is the one you sent to Cindy.XO Ann B.
Ann you’re the most lovable person and thank you. I trust you know that I was was speaking metaphorically about fisticuffs and setting peoples’ cars on fire. For the most part anyway. 🙂
Hi Roger Hornaday, XO to you always.I know you were speaking metaphorically and I was too about the fire work,but I really did stick my wrist in a candle during the bad old days when first out!Will never do that again! Ann B.
Great post, Mike.
It all checks out with the North Korean dictator and then checkmates the hair style.
The stat is up Mike. Why? Because Miscavige is the item. It makes TA action.
Hubbard, even with his flaws, is not the item. The good he did surpass his mistakes and bad tendencies
When on a blog Hubbard becomes the target, slowly but surely the stat of the blog decline. As the church.
Miscavige is antiscientology, a proper SP by the very book. He is laughable, ridiculous and his followers are poor soul.
People needs conspiracy theory, like DM was manipulated by CIA or the Markabian… you name it !
They can’t confront the idea of how this little punk was able to take control of scientology. Like any of his kind, he is not impeded by moral consideration. He has no : he is a sociopath, a suppressive person by the book.
If he would be properly declared, it is possible that scientology would recover.
spoken like a true believer
FG, I’d love to know the means by which you arrived at your knowledge of a blog’s declining stats when Ron Hubbard is criticized. Your claim has a familiar dubious quality I’ve heard somewhere before.
The tech is invalid.
A few facts to support that thesis:
Although quite wealthy, Hubbard died in hiding. And by that I mean entirely in seclusion, in hiding from governments, his family and effectively severed from the church. His mind was quite apparently failing or falling to acute paranoia. Prior to that and up to the end, he held himself to be the Messiah returned (see Hymn of Asia, by LRH): give me a better yardstick for insanity.
But, that’s not all…
He died refusing to tell you the truth. And so, instead, we got that wonderful story from David Miscavige at his passing…
Which really serves to tell you how covert this whole operation really is.
And the church opens the door to you pretending to be something that it is not,
offers promises it cannot possibly keep
and cannot see fit to take care, properly pay or see to the welfare of its followers in old age
All of which proves the tech does not work.
Scientology is a thing of imagination, not science, and it’s true purpose is to fool you into believing it is something, when it is just empty.
I think we can demand real talk from the leader, given the broken family every Scientologist actually represents. Until he does, the only right thing to do is abandon the church and mark the doctrine as invalid in its entirety.
Unless, of course, you are a student of mind-control and brainwashing.
But I have no fear about the leader coming forward. I know he never will. He knows the whole thing is an empty con. He knows the jig is up. The only thing that could possibly work for him now is silence, the antithesis of this fraudulent organization. And so I ask, why are you risking direct exposure to the works of the notorious story-teller and greatest con man of all time? Why risk the danger? If nothing else, why risk eventually ripping up yet another family, when 1000’s have already succummed? Lisa McPherson died while just taking her first baby steps, stepping off the Bridge as a new-born Clear.
“Tech.”
And I swore I wouldn’t swear.
FG, It could have something to do with the fact that Miscavige is alive and well and carrying out his abuses as we speak. People are testifying to that fact as we speak. We live in the now, not the past.
Also, Captain David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige takes on a military rank he didn’t earn and he really, REALLY, has a problem with documentary films.
To Cite what follows: [VIDEO] Critical Q&A #20, mark marco says.
this is actuallly it (Joe is not the Joe here but a different one. Although the one here can make me wonder, too…)
August 31, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Well, here is an example of why I get skiddish around independent scientologists.
Joe, undoubtedly a good person, just asked us to refer to the tech and says… something laced with jargon very abstract and obviously derived from the “teachings” he is still assumming to be valid.
“Now, if you move up the track…” Look what is actually happening there, by evidence of what he is saying.
All of us, without exception, carry around our beliefs and pre-concieved ideas. They could be conscious or sub-conscious, but once held will automatically accept or reject new information as valid or invalid depending on whether they support or contradict whatever it is that we, as individuals, have agreed to.
All of which categorically falls outside the school of the scientific method. It is just the human method, intuition if you will, wherein the brain is constantly working to determine what is real, what is good, bad or indifferent, and how it relates to the self, et cetera.
Look at Joe doing the same thing here, as he nearly justifies the heinous LRH evaluation of homosexual behavior as something written to fit into the social norms of the time it was written. This is a man for whom Clear, the Reactive Mind and Engrams would be real and actual things, or at least as the description of actual things.Just like I did, btw, for a few decades even after I got out;
I was still believing in tech, as they say.
I was still in love with Ron until quite recently. I was such a good Scientologist before that, practicing until 1975 or so. And yes, it was a different church back then.
We (those of us here, studying critical thinking) have established this “thing” called scientology to be clearly deceptive, offering things it could not possibly deliver being at the top of a long list of false promises. Next would be the secret activities done to protect the church, operation Snow White comes to mind. But, basically EVERYTHING, nearly everything happening in the upper echelons of Scientology is kept away from the day-to-day Scientologist, including Sea Org. Yes, I’m saying is all categorically covert and is, in reality a day-to-day personality trait of this Don’t-Make-Me-Laugh Church. They cheat, to put it another way. Who actually does what is generally unknown, except for knowing the name David Miscavige. Then, the willingness to ruin families, destroy personal finance, work children, not pay any including their most dedicated followers or provide any sort of security for old age, all adds up to the indisputable conclusion that this church operates for the benifit of itself and not the members. How many billions could the properties be worth? How good is the church at making money, and how can it possibly manipulate so many minds into willingly impoverishing themselves, and governments to grant tax-free status?
Is the danger not clear?
I need to add to that,
that LRH was in fact a self-proclaimed Messiah. Give me a better yardstick for insanity.
The fact remains that he died in hiding, his body riddled with drugs, his mind quite apparently failing or falling to acute paranoia. The truth is he abandoned his church, his doctrine and you, refusing to tell you the truth up to and including through his dying breath.
“Tech.”
To this day, there is but one family member in, of the Hubbard family blood-line who willingly speaks to it, the story of Scientology, and that is Jamie DeWolf-Hubbard, a lucid and stark critic of both the church and its founder; LRH is his great grand-father. Are you a student of mind-control and brainwashing? No? Then what are you doing, doing research that begins with taking The Reactive Mind as a thing that actually exists? Why are you exposing yourself to Scientology words and principles when none of it is based on scientific principles and the church actually SUPPRESSES critical thought? Is that not dangerous enough? Am i being too reasonable here?
I think you would be far better off, taking something, anything, taught in Scientology as being inherently wrong, then looking for scientific proof to the contrary.
But the more effective method of finding something worthwhile to believe in – would be to simply pick up your bag, put on your labcoat and run like hell, far-far away.
The “technology” certainly does work, to the degree that its founder got wealthy; and that, in my view is about it. Joe, I don’t meant to chew you up, honestly. I have a lot of admiration for everyone who contributes here, and thank you for letting your truth be known.
To Ann whom I told not to worry and do I believe.
-mm
this text has been edited for spelling corrections, ha
Hi Ann B.
I have to tell you first I’m (choke) excuse me, excited. I should just say, of the get-go.
Imagine the beauty of that, meeting in cyber-god-O-god I GOTTA SEE A RELIGION DIE HERE,
the space of dreams and say I love yu always and forever, don’t worry.
Or I wil be a true blue space monkey, i swear.
Not to imply the absence of skid marks in my life’s journey. A crash or, … more than one.
I believe that crying is actually a needed re-organization of a present-time belief system going through a change. That each time is actually a new belief system we are going through.
You could even call it a break-down, each and every one.
But, that’s how easy it is,
to adopt a new belief system, one with symbionce, balance and most of all meaning.
….w.here something we believed heart and soul to be true turned out to be otherwise, and so now I love you. Just don’t feel like wasting time anymore, that’s forever already, ha. Don’t i write pretty once in awhile but I say it is all because of you, I’m blaming you.
Forgot what I was going to say. Guess that’s it. Sure is fun. I need champaingne, did I spell that right,
love, glad that you like at all, ha
-mm
I left out me.
That’s hilarious.
Hi Mark Marco,OK you are such a crack shot with arrows to the heart,and here we are on this little Blog on the Fringes of the Internet.I always knew power would be found here.Mike and all keep amazing me.I really understood and liked all you have posted,although I think it is hysterical that you misread my first post.in my travels here I have looked at posts and posted,then later I think was I deluded with my post or what!Laughter.However I needed your take on my two year old tear fest yesterday.What you said made perfect sense especially with all the cancer stuff I have to do and the recalls that are so clear now of SO days and nights.I too loved so strongly Ron Mary Sue Quentin who I knew for a few weeks when I was being recruited for Asho D and F and he wanted me at AOLA.I saw Diana twice at special Flag Briefings at the Palladium and she sang sensitively then and had gorgeous red hair,I wrote Suzette and Arthur awhile also.I never knew Jaime but Ron Senior was in a book I was unknowingly inserted into with a pen name that was not approved by me,so I knew a bit of his story from that book.Would like to read the new one when it comes out.My point is that Asho and Asho F SO were my family,that then branched out to all Sea Org ,Orgs Missions etc I wanted to protect and defend them all.At the top of the mountain were Ron and the Tech and his family.So when I too realized what really was going on behind the veil of Ron’s World and now David’s it was such a shock to me really bad.Everything I had ever believed when I joined SO was turned on its head and upside down.It was like before all SO all policies were like torches of light and fire for me then suddenly those were extinguished forever and the black hearts came out to play.I have to say with all his space opera fiction aside and penchant to spin yarns of his life,Ron was dangerous just my opinion,but I always deep down knew that David is dangerous too but in a different type of way and his end if he goes the way of Ron will be of his own making.Off topic I only mentioned my cancers because with no family history I am told some of the gene cancer turn on was caused by late late hrs for four years in SO,scrapping blue dust with no masks for a day at The Manor now CC in the basement thick asbestos covered pipes and on The Excalibur for almost four weeks scrapping blue dust off the ship constantly.Had to be white glove.Wait Mark champagne, music, can we add sunrises sunsets starlight I’ll bring my zin and glasses.Forever Love, Ann B.
Like this, sipping bubbly in the cool sea breeze under a sky of fire
song and laughter and the beauty of your mind
and everywhere dancing in the breeze
each experience brings a pearl of wisdom and another piece of happy
always more and ever craving to never see the end
yes
and just to be warmly assured, yes again.
Reaching out to Ann,
sweet thing that she is, to say hey.
And oh yeah I just checked and,
what do you know, you didnn’t, as in had not, as did myself, you hadn’t made any reference to oppressed Scientologists unable to express doubt, ha-ha my bad. No intent to make veiled insinuations whatsoever. not very much my style. The crush part holds true, regardless.
It’s just funny that I thought I had read that, in my flawed memory, and I was totally deluded, on that part, ha.
That’s hilarious.
…oppressive as all that is. I mean, incredible!, that a human being could be that cold, able to laugh at his biggest dork, Tom Cruise, even. Sorry Tom, but you deserve it. Dave? Huge, huge apologies to you, and I do mean of cosmic proportions, think of two ass cheeks the size of Jupiter or so, sorry you have to die completely alone, forever from this planet anyway, knowing your wonderfully beautiful bubble is just a Hollywood effect. May you feel fear when you realize you are indeed going the same way as LRH. Sorry, but on that sad day I may have to finally force myself, in enthusiastic unison with Surfer Dude, to speak in the truely profane, all of which would not be neccessary if not for you and and your
____ing name.
Can’t help myself and I do need help. Ha. Just kidding. I need music. Yeah….
This post will go down as a classic, just brilliant! The only thing missing is a ‘thumbs up’ or ‘like’ button cause I constantly felt myself reaching for it.
Doesn’t he take refugees in? I think some have been indoctrinated into the Sea Org. No?
god, I hope not. My hands are so full with the ones already in there…
Or, wait, maybe I hope so.
If you had to wage death by invading force against Sea Org, …geeze I’d have to think about that.
Sure goes against my principles, I mean, I never thought I’d see the day I would recommend a fellow human being to hurry up and join Sea Org.
We are talking about a people, by virtue of the invading army, what’s their monaker, ISIS?…-haven’t heard much good about them, rank pretty low in the field of invading armies, what do I know?
-these would be a people enthusiacally accepting slavery, one should remember.
This is a little bit different than you or us, our silly broken what-nots, all souls being equal.
And, sure, I did get a lot of good out of the comm course.
So, as long as they want it, I have to vote, reluctantly, to let them in.
To Sea Org.
God I feel horrible.
I’d be too low a guy to not offer my number, if some refugee actually chose Sea Org because the rest of his family was shot or something. Only actually have room for one the bathtub, no wait, I forgot the closet under the stairs! Ok, go! You know Germany has taken in 800,000 of these people? No kidding, did I actually hear that on the news? Syrians. The tally for US is, I believe, still less than 2,000 and a whole bunch of excuses, but what do I know, really, I’ve already confessed to being delusional.
[ ____ ] nuts, I swore again [ ____ ] -mm
Ah yes, Mike. Enjoy the rest with your family. Following your comment on “taking the easy way out”, brought to view the VERY real option that this ‘religious leader’, will likely also take the aghast-ly way out, come accounting time, by merely having his lawyers issue the following terse statement/s, in his ‘upcoming’ court appearance/s.
“Mr Miscavige is extremely upset by these accusations, that he has been accused of human rights abuses. Following understandable reactions to the most severe, provocations imaginable, he apologies unreservedly for any offensiveness suffered, by his hand. He remains a fully committed ecclesiastical leader and dutifully requests that, in the spirit of forgiveness, in striving to serve in the salvation of all of mankind, he be acquitted of all unfounded charges, and granted full, unconditional PARDON, on compassionate grounds, which he would be prepared to accept, without malice.”
— or some similar Shermaniacal diatribe, with the appropriate sombre, (mind control) background religious build-up blurb beforehand, of course.
Arggggghhh — (puke)
I’m sure that very quietly DM & the Co$ have always been doing these type of charity efforts.
Let it not be said that scientology is not doing its part in the human drama: At least, they are PRODUCING refugee families from its compounds, and have certainly seen to it that there are a few more poor and destitute people in this world!
It’s becoming blatantly obvious to all but the truly deluded, that David Miscavige is no more a religious leader than was Atilla the Hun. His god is the god of force, and like all would be usurpers vying for control over their fellows, he will meet his inevitable end in infamy.
Well said! The Spanish Inquisition comes to mind when Scientology rears it’s ugly head. There is nothing spiritual about Miscavige. He could care less about his fellow human. It is the LIES that get me. The fliers and the seminars and bots all talking about saving the world and all they really do is take take take. I saw those Scions at 9/11. I was there in NYC days later and those yellow shirted clones strolled and smiled at the scenery. They were as out of place as Mickey Mouse.
Hi Mike,Thank you for the update. Have a wonderful holiday weekend with your family.Always Ann B.
Just this evening, hearing that the Pope is going to accommodate refugee families in the Vatican, my husband remarked: ‘Well we know a guy with a lot of empty buildings…’
How about it Dave???
^^^^ yes! Finally a worthy use. If DM and his flock really gave a shit about the world they’d be opening up their doors left, right and centre. They’d have huge teams of VMs giving out food and supplies right across Europe. But no, just tumbleweed and a deafening silence.
Lets examine the “comparable magnitudes” of a recognized religious leader to that of “DM”. The Pope will arrive in the US later this month, visit 3 cities, address Congress and the United Nations, and be part of a celebration of Families expected to draw over 1 million people. ( http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/28/us/papal-visit-schedule.html?_r=0)
As far as I know DM has not published his schedule of appearances(but then he never does.) Draw your own conclusions.
The whole organization is based on a con.
That he holds the position of leader simply reveals his skill as a swindler.
He was not appointed by the founder. In fact, he managed to dupe the whole congregation with that wonderful story he provided at the time of Hubbards passing…
Of course this guy, as the new leader, is going to be good at deception and false promises.
He is going to know how to be silent.
And of course he has no real message.
This church is literally being displaced by the information age. To the degree it remains in existence is the degree to which it, as an entity, is able to defy critical analysis.
David Miscavige deserves recognition for that.
The most amazing about him, especially given all that cash the church has generated for him, is that he hasn’t disappeared to some remote island.
Or, has he?
Hi Mark Marco, Very good to meet you. Your post rang true for me.Yes maybe Miscavige is on a remote island with all his billions stashed around the world.So the KCET studios will be used to generate endless holograms of him droning on to endless adoring crowds…Now I’m getting dizzy! Always Ann B.
Oh, Ann! I have something of a crush on you. It happened up above, when I was noticing your compassion for those still stuck inside the bubble of false information and false promises…
I love Surfer Dude, too, but was made uncomfortabe when he told the same crowd to
“Wake the [ ____ ] up!”
But of course he is right, in principle, that those inside are living in a dream in which the believers believe they are superior to other humans, soon to be superior than humans, thanks again to the mortally restricted information their dear leader is willing to let them have. Dave spends half his time keeping his followers inside the trap, hypnotizing them by exalting them for their deeds done in the line of service, the other half punishing them when the spell dissolves. They do need to wake up, yes. But it does no good to be less than civil in our language, especially since they are already taught to believe that we, those of us operating outside the doctrine, are their enemies. I hope my point is understood. You have demonstrated this knowingness to me already. XOXO
oh, and a PS:
You can know me better, again, by checking out my recent comments at Chris Shelton’s Critical Thinker At Large, the blog. Lately, I’ve been talking about how to build your own cult. Then, I explain why independent scientologists make me skiddish (at Critical Q&A #20)
To those inside who carry doubts and are denied the priviledged avenue in which to express such doubts, I do write, most especially for those who have already demonstrated the required courage and force of independent will it took to have come this far, far enough to actually be reading here…
Everyone leaves. I can only hope to make even just one departure come sooner, for being awake is what it is all about.
Hi Mark Marco,Well truth be told I have something of a crush on you as I read more of your post.Thank you for making me feel that some of what I post and feel resonates with those who know the same route we have traveled.Mark,I am still falling into potholes and ditches along the way,but I am determined with Intention to keep going to shine the light of truth on the cult that is Scientology and The Sea Org is expert at showing facets which benefit a few at the very top,while so many still ins and SO slaves can’t begin to break free.Why I was able to see that the beautiful space I had seen for myself for life in The Sea Org could change in an instant to a dark foreboding landscape where anything went?And the promise of all the OT Levels was hollow and there is nothing but very faint echoes of what I believed was once possible in The Sea Org.That was torn to pieces by the dark side and use of the Tech.I will check out the blog you mentioned,thank you.It is my hope too that a waking up can and will occur.As far as I have come and as far as I still hope to go,the combined support and power of all our posts here can penetrate further than we might know now.The reason I know that those of us on the outside are their enemies would be because for over three years (it does not seem that long to me now considering how long Marty, Mike and many others were in) but until my re-education started with Intell, I would have thought anyone outside The Sea Org and not a Scientologist a mortal enemy.At about the three and one half year point in SO the winds shifted and the months of a new regime eventually wore me to the bone ,I just knew I had to blow or I was not leaving alive.Always Ann B.
Citing “…how to build your own cult”, see: Chris Shelton Critical Thinker At Large, “[VIDEO] The Scientology Experience, Part 1: Getting In”, COMMENTS mark marco says.
Very funny – David Miscavige writes an open letter to Jeff Bezos of amazon.com regarding how to treat workers:
http://www.thestranger.com/columns/open-letters/2015/08/19/22720740/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezosfrom-david-miscavige-chairman-of-the-board-of-religious-technology-center-and-supreme-leader-earth-division-of
Laughter!
“And finally, there is the hair.” So true and so completely hysterical!
Spot on, Mike. A true religious leader, for better or worse, stands in front of his followers, he does not hide behind them.
David Miscavige Prayer
Give me this day and all of your bread,
and I’ll forgive you your trespasses which you have committed.
For Mine is the glory and all of your money
forever and ever.
Ahhhhhmen.
Hi Espiritu, Wonderful Prayer but do I have to say it on my knees while I kiss his ring! I figure he has one.Ron had a nice signet,Quentin had a small gold one he wore a few times.Always Ann B.
David Miscavige is a dick… tator
I did hear someone refer to him as “dick breath” once.
David Miscagive is a tator tot.
Miscavige runs to the police when threatened himself. But declares others who choose the same solution.
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/lapd-investigating-death-treats-against-scientology-leader-david-miscavige/
Hi The Oracle, I noticed that also.Seems the second David Miscavige stubs his toe,no touch assit,call the FBI.And I would have thought the great cos leader would employ crack body guards and I also guess The poor Sea Org Members are either in the Hole so starved they can’t do any defending of David or so Koolaided they do not know what end is up.I for one will always follow your posts.Of course I may not and you may not agree with me all the time but we both know there is wiggle room when communicating.Yes I loved Ron and his family and I can remember the good in those recalls, but what Ron really did to all Sea Org and paying public I cannot forget or forgive,but I do not hate those who never saw that side and see him as a good force.I think those people are missing a lot of truth but they are valuable as spirits also.You are always good to post with,do not forget that ever.XXOO Ann B.
I hear you Ann. I think the man who called was David Beckham. Miscavige really wanted SO badly to be his BFF. Miscavige spent thousands of dollars of Church $$ to have a soccer field built for Mr. Beckham. Tom Cruise could not get him to visit the Int Base. Imagine having a soccer field built with LAZERS for precision for someone you are a fan of, and then your minion Tom Cruise can’t reel him in!
I hear Beckham was stalked by Cruise and Miscavige, as they wanted him to make their “Rat Pack”. He probably got fed up finally and called in to the Church to give them what for! Hell hath no wrath like a Miscavige scorned!
Hi The Oracle,Thank you so much for your post re: David Beckham.On the one hand it is laughable that three extremely rich men standing around a state of the art soccer field cannot get DB (Beckham) my mind reads DB as,you know what DB comes out as.to join their Scam Pack.The really astounding point is that David Miscavige spent untold monies of cos on a soccor field and did not get a hit with David B.The still ins keep getting led round and round the garden path! Love U Ann B.
Of course Oracle. That is per El Con policy. Would you want Davie to go “off source”?
One of your best posts
Ouch — a great conparative analysis of the Lilliputian In Chief at CO$ …..
The Church of Scientology is the only Church on the planet that requires a paid membership. And if you are an “annual” member and do not pay up, you are suddenly NOT a member of the Church of the Church Scientologist and therefore not considered a Scientologist.
Your identity as a Scientologist revolves around a paid membership fee. If you do not pony up, you can no longer call yourself a Scientologist. So, if you wake up broke, you have no Church.
The right to call yourself a Scientologist can only be purchased through a David Miscavige franchise called the I.A.S..
Therefore, Miscavige has create a situation where the membership can only grow according to financial status, NOT beliefs or faith.
Bullseye.
Yes Oracle! Bullseye. It is the only church I know of where you pay your way to Heaven or OT Levels, whichever comes first.
When you say leader, do you mean a leader tied to a hook
Excellent article. Read it four times.
Only a matte. Of time beforeScientology crumbles as I find it haRd to believe that folks with two brain cells don’t see the absolute bulllshit cos is .
Alpha Miscavige is all about Omega Miscavige.
Wasn’t there someone at the New York Org who coordinated the COS Ground Zero response in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, and then got punished by DM for his efforts?
Miscavige sold Scientology down the river in the early 1980s. He and the people that have supported him over the last 30+ years in his activities have changed the ethos of Scientology into one of a snarling, nasty, bitchy abomination, greedy for money with no or diminishing exchange of service. He and his supporters are in treason to the subject and have effectively destroyed it, emptying out Orgs worldwide, covertly destroying training and processing as well as decent well meaning staff and public, ripping off parishioners for “donations” which covertly deflects them from whatever remaining Bridge exists (and providing him with a false statistic) and generally throwing all and any available spanners into the Scientology “works” – Ethics, Tech and Admin. In fact the destruction caused is so unbelievable, both overt and covert, that the phrase “you couldn’t make it up” would be a massive understatement. One doesn’t need to conjure up images of CIA or government infiltration or other conspiracy theories against Scientology as a subject to explain such effects caused by him and his gang of fawning note-taking followers, as what they have done far surpasses anything that such agencies could have undertaken. Whether or not the subject can be recovered is a matter for future generations.
HCOB 2 August 1969R “LX” Lists states “Perverts, suppressives and critical, snide, ruthless, arrogant or contemptuous personalities are always out of valence” is indeed a revealing piece of information that explains to a great degree what has occurred and the mindset that has accomplished this destruction. Interestingly enough the subject still somehow survives despite it, but which is of course aided by the fact that the person attempting to do so cannot complete a cycle of action, fortunately.
The activities of this cabal are plainly revealed with a study of OEC Volume 1 sections on detecting Suppressive Persons and which of course many staff and public eventually get around to reading and then putting 2 and 2 together, and end up disconnecting themselves from this gang. This is now probably the only useful application of the disconnection theory and policy. He cannot yet totally destroy all of these references and signposts to his and his gang’s activities but he is even trying to do that (of course) with his revision of the OEC Volumes and Tech Volumes, which apparently have been withdrawn from Orgs pending this “revision”.
As they say – “you couldn’t make it up”!
Thank you for yr comment. I agree, and I don’t always agree with the comments here.
Hi Foolproof, A most interesting post. Thank you and isn’t it incredible that we could not make any of this up! Always enjoy your posts.Ann B.
“Perverts, suppressives and critical, snide, ruthless, arrogant or contemptuous personalities are ALWAYS OUT OF VALENCE”. (the caps are mine)
Foolproof, as I recall ‘out of valence’ means a person is unconsciously acting out the personality of somebody else. But I thought it was the emotional tone that dictates a person’s behaviors and attitudes. Each emotion on the tone scale has corresponding behaviors which can be predicted by identifying where the person sits on that scale.
Does that mean I am out of valence when I hit a certain low point on the tone scale? If so, then at what point on that scale do I go ‘out of valence’ and at what point do I pop back in to my own valence? That HCOB seems to be saying arrogance, snideness, being critical aren’t part of any person’s own personality because they are part of SOMEBODY ELES’S personality. Whoops, I must be confused here, please straighten me out.
Hi Roger Hornaday,Oh my! I’ll straighten you out,but first you have to untangle me.Those SO days where every HCOB made perfect sense to me.I’d not wish to visit again.Always Ann B.
Roger, a valence is a specific personality, and any given personality could have different tone levels at different times. For example, a person might be in the valence of his father: One day, he might be angry and would act like his father at the tone level of anger. Another day, he might be acting like his father would in fear. Etc.
Thank you Marildi what you say makes sense. What Mr. Hubbard says however, doesn’t. I MAY act like my father when I get angry but I may not. I may act like ME being angry when I get angry and I do. Not EVERYBODY is out-valence when they go down the tone scale. Hubbard was taking an exaggerating tone but he can’t do that. This is an EXACT technology! (that lightening bolt is gonna strike me yet!)
“Not EVERYBODY is out-valence when they go down the tone scale.”
Absolutely right, Roger. It’s not that a person necessarily goes into another valence when going down the tone scale. But a person who is already in another valence can go down tone – and in so doing, will act out that lower tone level in the valence he’s in. In other words, if he were chronically in his father’s, when he became angry he would act like his father would act in anger. And, per my understanding. he would be in that chronic valence at higher tone levels too, not just the lower ones.
“He and his supporters are in treason to the subject ”
What a pile of crap. The “subject” has always been about enriching the leader of the cult while suppressing & lying to its followers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely clueless about El Con and his rampant criminality.
Mike, as moderator, I am surprised you let John Locke attack posters with his ad hocs and shredding of people and invalidations. That is exactly what David Miscavige does. This isn’t the first time JL has done it either. He rips and shreds anyone who voices anything even half way positive about the tech or LRH. While it is common knowledge that Ron did many overts and bad things, you can’t say that someone is ALL BAD or ALL GOOD. Absolutes do not exist. Let’s show a little respect to the people who post here and not just jump on them like a band of hyenas to rip the jugglar out. It makes it unsafe for people to post here. Maybe you can rein in JL and others who would attack the posters like he does.
Sorry to let you down Cindy. I do my best, he writes a lot of comments and I generally pass them on, though he could complain that I shitcan plenty of his comments. Obviously you have figured out where he comes from. So, don’t read what he says if it upsets you or you don’t like it. Just block them out of your universe.
He isn’t a band of hyenas and surely you don’t believe that a commenter with a very clear bias makes it “unsafe” to post here?
As for Mr. Locke, I do think he tends too much towards ad hominem comments and I don’t appreciate commenters attacking other commenters. Stating one’s position is one thing. And I tend to agree, he seems to deride anyone he thinks isn’t totally anti-scientology and L. Ron Hubbard to be to his liking. But he does have some useful information and insights.
You seem to think nobody but you notices how bitter and angry he is. I don’t think anyone can miss it.
Hi Mike, I was reading the posts of those that get upset with aggressive posters,. I understand their feelings but the point is we can have the freedom to post that to me is unbelievable. All else just let it flow on we will be victorious in the end,Ann B,
I understand Ann. I am with you. Though I tend to try and curtail personal attacks.
Hi Mike, Thank you.I totally agree with you about personal attacks.I got enough views of that side of the coin.With my “new eyes” one 9/9/15 and the second 9/23/15 I’ll be able to read this Blog in the dark! Love U Both.Ann B.
Why Cindy, John speaks so highly of YOU! 🙂 John is doing the best he can given what he believes to be true. That’s true of everybody per Byron Katie and I’m on board with her about that. I know I strongly dislike being spoken to disrespectfully so what I usually do is either punch the culprit in the face and run or I find out where they live and set their car on fire. And believe me, I am completely free of unexpressed resentments.
Correction: I mean to say “Ad Hominem” instead of “Ad Hoc.”
My typos abound. I mean to say “jugular”
I said symbionce thinking it was actually a word. I was meaning harmony.
I do pray to be understood.
Gladness is to see many here working to understand what is real verses what is intentional deception. We appear to be unanimous in that regard. I raise my glass to the nobility within us all, and crash it forcefully into the hearth of fire that such will never die, that we will never relent.
My reply is more to Cindy than to John Locke’s “pile of crap”, but as John doesn’t believe in the validity of any of Scientology’s tech, he won’t or shouldn’t mind me saying that the genus of his replies can also be found plainly revealed in the very OEC Vol 1 sections to do with detecting suppressive persons and the fact that such persons are continously committing overt acts which those dastardly Scientologists might find out about – and which then causes him to be upset about “Scientology”. After all, according to John, Scientology is a pile of crap, so he can ignore all this, can’t he? Thank you Cindy but the genus of such replies are rather obvious to any one who has studied even a bit of Scientology (I know you have studied a lot – I didn’t mean you in this sense). John’s replies are a laughing stock actually and ironically prove the exact point Hubbard makes in the referenced materials above.
This is really not a very sound argument. It’s the “I know what is wrong with you, L. Ron Hubbard explained it in______”. Honestly, it comes across as condescending.
Witch bugged me,
also, the line, “…according to John, Scientology is a pile of crap,”
making the concept sound like John’s idea as a self-proclaimed visionary,
or maybe The Lone Ranger.
May I please take the opportunity to reflect…
The Unabashed Dictionary from the academies of the Mark Marco School of Thought
(still waiting for tax-exempt status)
defines ” Scientology ” as: 1.) crap
2.) something you would not want to stick your finger into, much less your mind
3.) of and/or derived from or pertaining to, as percieved by the vast majority of the human species occupying the third planet orbiting the Sun, crap.
Further descriptions of specific characteristics, physical and otherwise, have been deleated for the sake of decency.
Foolproof, the efficacy of scientology “tech” could be assessed conclusively by determining its ability to treat people who are suffering from psychosis and depression for instance. Such people are able to function normally when they take their psych meds. Can scientology get them off their meds and relieve their suffering? Can it do a better job for these people than the psychiatrists are doing? If it can’t then its only service is to entertain upper middleclass white people who have made a lifestyle out of having “wins” and cognitions all the time. And they aren’t a particularly impressive looking bunch either.
Not really Roger. its efficacy would be determined by how well it delivered the results its inventor CLAIMED for it. That HAS been determined. The unarguable answer is, it is a failure on ALL major aspects. El Con claimed that he developed the bridge “for the able”. NOT for the people who need to take drugs in order to function.
John Locke: “…its efficacy would be determined by how well it delivered the results its inventor CLAIMED for it.”
The thing that proponents of the tech are looking at is what it DOES do and the fact that the actual results are extremely valuable. Of course, those who are hell-bent to not see anything valuable or have anything positive to say will continue to hammer on what was “claimed!” They have their agendas.
John, I defend my position by making a heartfelt appeal to emotion. Hubbard denounced psychiatry and psychiatric meds while claiming to have developed a “science of the mind”. Correct, he didn’t claim scientology could help the chronically depressed or schizophrenics but he didn’t subscribe to the usage of those terms either. Hubbard was in disagreement with that profession’s clinical diagnoses and per his more enlightened judgements they were DEGRADED DOWN-STATS. A condition deemed more effectively treated through ethics handling or disconnection. Little is known because of sketchy documentation but it’s generally believed most subjects were unresponsive to the treatment.
“The thing that proponents of the tech are looking at is what it DOES do and the fact that the actual results are extremely valuable.”
Not relevant. The test I stated IS correct. If I build a widget and claim that it is an aircraft that can fly. The CORRECT TEST for the efficacy of that statement vis-avis the widget is to see if it DOES fly.
Anything else in place of that is complete nonsense and an effort to obfuscate the truth.
Well Done for showing how little sense can be made by fundamentalists of any religious type.
False Emphasis is a logical fallacy.
Roger I remember LRH writing at some point that he developed “Institutional Dianetics (or Scn?)” for use on institutional cases. You would actually want to track that “tech” down and test it. Rather than what he presented to be consumed by “the able”.
Excellent post FooolProof
I wish I had said this. Excellent.
The Dwarf may be at the helm of destruction but at least there are still some of us who are Standard and make a go of things.
“One doesn’t need to conjure up images of CIA or government infiltration or other conspiracy theories against Scientology as a subject to explain such effects caused by him and his gang of fawning note-taking followers, as what they have done far surpasses anything that such agencies could have undertaken. Whether or not the subject can be recovered is a matter for future generations.”
A lot of cool and reasoned confront in your writing.
” …his activities have changed the ethos of Scientology”
Here some of the (original) ‘ethos of Scientology’.
“Scientology’s insane “High Crime” definitions”:
https://barefacedmessiah.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/scientologys-insane-definitions-of-high-crimes/
But has he learned to look at things?
http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/
Excellent article. Speaking of the Pope and Miscavige’s self comparison: For Anyone who has missed it: Watch the 20/20 special which aired last night on ABC The Pope and The People. And compare. You will then see the extent of Miscavige’s delusion loud and clear.
Laser like post, Mike.
The age-old story of Judas comes to mind.
Has David Miscavige ever met with an important person of any stripe? Ever? Can anyone here name any person of any standing that The Owner has ever been in the same room with? I can think of Ted Koppel, if you want to count his one and only interview. And we all know how that turned out. Yes, there are local functionaries and Colombian martinets who have been either hoodwinked or bribed into appearing at his ribbon pulls, but they are not people of standing.
Can you imagine it? Would he know how to handle himself? Would the pope or the archbishop of Canterbury or the Dalai Lama have as hard a time understanding Davy’s gibberish as Katie Holmes did?
Wasn’t it Nazanin Boniadi who couldn’t understand what Dave was saying?
Yes, that’s right. But now that I think of it I’d be willing to bet that Katie couldn’t understand his yammering brilliance either.
Yep, Dave Speak is a difficult language to understand. What I find very interesting, though, is, when he is conversing in his language, invariably someone with get the crap beat out of him by asking him to repeat what he just said. Or banished.
“Has David Miscavige ever met with an important person of any stripe?”
I’m thinking that his reclusiveness is also partly enforced, as, what opinion leader, politician, business leader etc., would want to be linked in the mass media with the likes of David Miscavige and the Church of Scientology? It would be PR suicide. The only exception to this is the loony-tune Farrakhan although I’ve never seen them together in public.
You blew me out of the water with this article, Mike. I can’t as yet comment sensibly on it because I’m still processing the similarities between the two sociopaths.
DM does not really comprehend what religion is. How can be a religious leader?
He knows he wants the protection afforded a religion (in the US) VERY badly….
David Miscavige is a pope. He is a pre-Reformation pope, obsessed with power and the expression thereof, his image as a spiritual and temporal leader, and how much money pours into the apparatus. His role models are specifically the 15th and 16th Century popes from the leading Italian ruling families, the Medicis and Sforzas and their ilk, even to the extent of imitating their occasional fratricidal behavior. He probably dreams of being one of them and being able to employ Michelangelo and Cellini and such to decorate his Idle Morgues.
We do things today to people who exhibit such idle obsessive fantasies of grandeur. There are medications to help such people. This may be why he keeps pressing CCHR and their idiocy. He’s the Ideal Case for psychoactive medication, and he’d do anything to prevent that to keep the fantasies rolling on.
Very good analogy Espiando. I just reread (for the nth time) Il Principe. Very apt comparison.
You know, if Machiavelli ever encountered the Toxic Dwarf, he’d slap him across the face while yelling “YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!” He can’t even get that right.
LOL! Espi. I can almost hear it.
However, for all of their sins and they were many, the Renaissance-era popes, the Medicis and Sforzas or Borgias or members of other noble families, had tremendous artistic taste, and the money that they lavishly spent on art and architecture was always spent wisely and well. They were connoisseurs. There is no art in Scientology that rises above the level of really bad cover art for a 1970s sci-fi paperback, and the interiors of the “ideal orgs” are as boring and overly-shiny as a corporate training center with marble floors, just tasteless. It’s like if you told Tony or Carmela Soprano to build a “classy place.”
DM has all the psychopathic attitude of a Cesare Borgia (Lucretia’s brother, both of the the children of Alexander VI, the most morally corrupt pope that the Vatican has ever seen) but none of the style, glamour, or even courage of that amoral intriguer and murderer.
Jeez Mike, some kind of heads up next time please – tea all over the screen! The hair,,,of course! Here’s hoping he can’t help from biting….these are no doubt all big buttons! And the comparisons should be undeniable to anyone bar the willfully blinkered. .
Great post and true on all points.
Just please, do not include the Ayatollah Khamenei in the same sentence as the Dalai Lama, archbishop, bishop or Patriarch. He, and the Islamic Republic (regime) of Iran are responsible for the murders of millions of people through terrorism on a grand scale, including the imprisonment and murder of their own Iranian people for the past 36 years. Although I understand the context in which it was used, Khamenei or any connection to the Islamic regime is unworthy to be mentioned alongside these spiritual men.
Dead on as usual Mike. I can just hear how a Scientologist would react to your article….. “DM is the custodian of the tech and LRH is our religious leader”. And “LRH was never widely recognized before his death because his tech exposed all the bad guys who sought to discredit him” ….. I wonder how twisted their thinking has to get before someone head explodes under the sheer weight of cognitive dissonance.
Cunning COBster conned a church of crippled cronies
If cunning COBster conned a church of crippled cronies, how many crippled cronies did cunning COBster con?
If he were not running a cult with many human rights abuses he can not defend, I do not doubt that DM would face the press. But he would be humiliated by any good journalist, totally unable to defend his so called religion. All a journalist would have to say is why are your “Ideal Orgs” sitting empty?….
David Miscavige, Tom Cruise and an old auditor are captured by ISIS. The ISIS leader says to them: “Of course we’re going to kill all three of you; but we want to put out some good PR to the world and so we
will grant you one last wish before you die.
DM says: “I want to give one last speech and hear the applause
and see my sheeple jump to their feet in adoration.” “Granted, next.”
Tom Cruise: “I want to sing ‘we stand tall’ one more time before I die”. “Granted, next.”
Old Auditor: “Shoot me first”.
🙂
The search is over.
I’m joining McCarran’s church.
Hi Errol,Great to meet you.Another zinger made me laugh.Thank you. Ann B.
Great post Mike! It will be an epic day when DLHDM is busted! You can say proudly I helped.
Does anyone know the duties of Mr. Miscavige, or what his product is supposed to be? This guy is taking millions from the income, and I have yet to see a product. Anyone else notice that Mr. Miscavige is the only board member that is allowed to get media attention? I’m certain that it’s my own O/W’s that lead me to be critical of the little guy. Henry
Damn right it’s your O/Ws, Henry! I mean, we’re talking about the ecclesiastical head of the Church of Scientology! And you doubt he has a product? Are you insane (that might be rhetorical)?
Here’s his products (I mean, this man is overloaded with work!):
* Number of bottles of Scotch he consumes daily (normal)
* Number of staff he was forced to hit, kick, punch and drag to the floor (n affluence)
* Number of blows person (He’s in affluence)
* Number of marriages he’s broken up ( normal)
* Number of times he’s refused to come forward and talk to the media (affluence)
* Number of people he’s sent to the RPF (affluence +)
* Number of people all over the world who are laughing at the dwarf (sorry, we can’t figure out how large it is, because it’s that large)
So you see, Henry, you’ve got all wrong! Just look at these stats! It would take a person of exceptional intelligence to handle all of this. I’m just not sure what’s wrong with you, my friend….
Henry James, as the head of RTC he is supposed to maintain the “purity” of the scam tek. (he hasn’t)
As the de facto head of the Church of Scamology he is supposed to amass as much cash in untouchable bank accounts as possible as his primary activity and stat. (in this he is a howling success per LRH)
As head of CST? I have no idea. Maybe Mike knows.
As head of ASI? I don’t know over time how well that has done (selling El Con properties at ridiculous prices)
Hope that helps.
Scientology and its church are founded upon lies and lies need lies in order to keep going. If you remove the lies from scientology there won’t be anything left that would compel a person to max out a line of credit or betray a family member. You can’t have scientology without having a crook for its leader and I guess that makes David Miscavige a religious leader who is by necessity a loathsome individual.
Quite correct Roger. I have stated this before. If an ethical person were to take control of the “church” they would expose all of the lies and that would leave nothing to build a church or any other organization around.
He has a communist haircut. He is deeply an apparachick. He is the revert of a PR personnality dscribed in the PR series. He lies, promote his self importance. I believe if Hubbard came back he would overboard him!
The hair, oh the HAIR! You nailed it – thanks for the great laugh this morning!
And who on earth would want to be in a religion led by tiny tin pot dic(k)tator Dave?
A lot of still-ins really probably endure him more than follow him. He is not beloved by his “followers.”
Unfortunately, there are quite a number who idolize miscavige, his buildings and his hair doo.
Oh, you mean the ones who have given away their own self determinism and relay completely on Corn on the COB for guidance? Those folks?
Hi Espiando,Welcome back from the dark side of Clearwater.Hope you are feeling better each day.Your posts do wake me up! Always Ann B.
Scientology is an applicable religious philosophy .. I do not remember that LRH said that it is a religion .. he said it is a church .. but a church is not a religion .. it is only a house or a building where people can meet others with the same believe ..
David Miscavige can not be a religious leader .. there is no religion in the first place .. was never and will never be .. forever .. in all eternity never .. there is nobody who has ever realized LRH as a religious leader .. inclunding himself .. maybe he figured that out with his OT VIII .. I have read some stupid stuff about .. I do not know really .. I mean that I do not know if LRH has really said that ..
I have never at one point in my past thought that scientology would be a religion .. sure, because for be a religion it should first become one .. but there is no way to get that .. it is an applicable religious philosophy .. and so it can not become a religion for itself ..
I don’t know where you came up with:
“it is only a house or a building where people can meet others with the same believe ..”
but, I doubt if the rest of society feels the same way. Per your definition, the VFW hall would be a church, or a local community centre.
It has taken me 30 years to realize that participation in Scientology IS in fact a religious BELIEF. It is religious because it deals with matters of a spiritual nature. Why I am against Scientology is that it is NOT promoted as such. It is presented to the public as a “science of knowing”, where belief is not part of the equation. This is a falsehood. There is about as much science in Scientology as there is in science fiction.
Once you get on your OT Levels you will realize that this is a belief system. All ties to “science” that you thought existed are severed. People do the OT Levels with the BELIEF and ambition of becoming super human or god-like. When those abilities do not manifest, the BELIEVE what they are doing will help them (and all of mankind) in the future (e.g. they will be in better shape spiritually next lifetime). Scientology offers no proof that any of that is remotely true. Therefore, the individual who subscribes to this undergoes a transformation in their thinking, they BELIEVE this to be true, and have convinced themselves that it is something they KNOW (self-realized truth), when in objective reality it has absolutely no basis in fact.
This singular point, in my opinion, makes the “applied religious philosophy” a fraud. Simply because it claims to be something it is not.
Hi Statpush,An excellent and thoughtful post as always.Thank you Ann B.
per your definition, the VFW hall would be a church, or a local community centre .. I do not know what VFW hall is .. not all centers for meeting can be called a church .. nobody would agree .. promoting the words of Jesus became a church after some years .. it was not designed by jesus this way .. so is Jesus not the religious leader of christian expansion .. it is the belief of people .. they agreed .. so they have build up churches for meeting .. so that they can share the agreement ..
A footbal station do the same .. but it is not a church .. it is fans who like some teams .. and there are mostly two meanings ..
Scientology is like a football station .. you have to like it before you can go with it .. I mean you must like it .. otherwise you are thrown out .. you will get all sorts of handlings for agreeing .. all sorts of indications why you can not agree …
As someone said later in this thread: Scientology is the only religion where you are thrown out when you do not pay .. you are not longer scientologist for the COS .. but he failed to say, that you have to pay tax for some churches ..
But in other churches you have not to study half your life 50 Mio words from his founder .. or the correction of this works .. you are not wordcleared about at your expenses .. you get no sec-checks for assuring that you are not evil against man or LRH .. for which you have to pay ..
In Scientology you have to believe in the Xenu desaster .. if you do not do that you are lost as a scientologist .. although it is the only right answer to this stuff ..
First the called vulcanos did not exist at the given time on earth. If you would use an encyklopedia about Hawaii you would read that this iland came up from undersea about 2,5 Mio years ago .. it is similiar with Las Palma .. and there is no evidence found that nuclear desaster did occur .. something which is nowhere found on planet earth ..
Second how could somebody transport billions of bodies with DC8 like machines through the galaxy to earth or other planets (which planets) ..
The story of Xenu makes completely no sense. The story of Xenu is completely crazy .. first point of it is, if there were such a desaster 75 Mio years ago .. what have tis guys done all the time .. Homo Sapiens is about 50.000 years on earth. It must be a long time of boredom for them not to get bad intentions in human bodies .. and so against the thetans ..
I myself was never at any time in all eternity a thetan. I can mock-up something like that .. but I have never known about before .. sorry, but this is the religious part of scientology .. it is all, if you believe that you are a thetan the whole scientology is religious .. it addresses the spirit .. but if there is no thetan .. it is purely nothing ..
Nobody will ever come up with telling he has studied Scientology for a whole lifetime and is aware of his doing .. nobody would believe him .. so when LRH came back, for correct his tech himself .. he would be declared very fast ..
This is the hole in all scientology .. all scientology is a dump of generalities which can everybody say with a sort of understanding .. and when you come really back to life (why) .. and you would say, I have already handled my BTs and Clusters .. they would only say to you: Now you have new BTs with your new body .. and you have to do everything again ..
Why? Oh, there is no EP for not having any longer BTs .. you can get every minute new ones .. if you go this way you are forever lost .. surely .. and forever means forever .. you can become forever a victim of scientology ..
Friend said, ” I do not remember that LRH said that it is a religion”
Irrelevant. It is a religion by virtue of it falling under the definition of that English word.
Totally. The function of religion has traditionally been a path to salvation of the soul – and in Scientology, that is accomplished through the route of auditing, and the individual’s realizations concerning himself in the present, his past, and his future. This technology is new. More than previously, you have a church as a place of meeting – actual meeting and spiritual interface between parishioners. What has happened in the Co$ since LRH left is another very sad story.
The importance of Scientology cannot be understated, imo. It is the first accurate definition of life that we’ve ever had. That it concerns a thetan directly makes it of necessity an applied religious philosophy. I mean, if one could somehow abstract oneself from being the subject of the definition, then one could say it is simply a science with data and axioms, and of no more personal concern than any other science – like geology, or chemistry, perhaps.
Those who scoff at Scn as “pseudo-scientific” or “not science at all” do not know the definition of science, and probably substitute the commercial images of actors in dark-rimmed glasses holding clipboards or test tubes proclaiming that their shampoo is “scientifically proven” to be better. That isn’t necessarily “science” – but it is “authority” and “agreement.”
Science is based on observation, and is the collection of (observed) data sufficient to formulate hypotheses concerning causes and effects, which when observed in practice become theories, which can reliably be used to predict certain effects given known causes. The common misperception is that somehow “infallible and impartial instruments” must be involved in the process. The truth is that there must be someone there to observe the instruments, even those as complex and costly as a particle accelerator.
Does any science, have a connection to belief? Sure … go back to 1600 and conduct a poll as the whether the Earth is flat, and the center of Creation, or round, orbiting the sun – just be careful, because anyone who suggested that the Earth was not the center of Creation was liable to being tortured to death. Or more safely, argue with a “modern philosopher” about the existence of the physical universe … you discover that you cannot “prove” anything to someone unwilling to see.
Science in fact is a subject of philosophy. Science is junior to philosophy. The great difficulty with Scn is separating out the personal perspectives from the science. Auditing someone is one way to do that: you see the cause and effect relationships from the outside, not the subjective. Still you find Scn auditors who somehow read “Axioms of Scientology” and see “Axioms of Life.” It says very plainly, “Axioms of Scientology”. How you get “Axioms of Life” out of that is utterly beyond me. Some word clearer needs cramming.
The philosophy must be developed by oneself. And it must be lived by oneself. So it is applied. It is religious in that it deals with the spirit, the soul, and the “afterlife” (or more accurately, the “after body death”). Traditionally, that defines religion. It rises above materiality.
Scientology is “the first accurate definition of life we’ve had”. Nickname, that is an astoundingly naive assertion as well as it is demonstrably false. Hubbard said life was a “static” but it is in truth the OPPOSITE of a static. A static is something that doesn’t move or change. I enjoy your gumption in speaking out such a locally unpopular opinion. There are a number of things you said that I’d love to straighten out but my overriding impulse is to just let it go.
I don’t believe Scientology is a science. I have a degree in Physics. So with my degree, I don’t know what the definition of “science” is? You’re an assclown. Of course, your previous posts made that abundantly clear to everyone.
Busted my butt, to get a B out of Trigonometry. Aced Algebra ( cheating on only one test ) but pride wavers after, as CHemistry nearly busted my GPA altogether.
I mean it. I got a C, and I was surprized. If that came out not, go straight to Physics
Mr. Marco,
where I knew I was sunk. So,you got my back, thanks.
Scientology is imagination, and therefore does not represent any sort of contribution to the evolution of knowledge in the critical sense whatsoever. I just said it to save you some breath, buddy, thanks for the good work, Senor Espiando.
-agent mark marco decodified
Very interesting post, Nickname. And good observations.
Scientology is fairly unique in that it is a heuristic science in that it is “proved” on an individual basis by personal application rather than relying on the viewpoint of others who have been labeled “scientists” to determine what is true.
When someone relies on the statements of someone else to determine what is true and what is not (even if that someone is an “authority” or a scientist), they have become a believer, just like any other believer.
Your ancient examples of men of science being believers reminded me of an recent example I read in an recent article Scientific American (about a year ago) regarding the origin of the physical universe. Remarkably, it seems that fully 10% of theoretical physicists have come to the conclusion that the physical universe (matter energy space and time, a.k.a. MEST) must have originated form a source that is not a part of the physical universe! In addition, a few of these scientists have noticed the, to them, surprising parallel between this theory and Hinduism (as well as many other religious ‘creation theories”). Of course, many in the 90% majority are attacking the 10% as being “irrational” and worse, even though this theory is wholly based on mathematics and physical universe observations.
So yes, even today physicists can be “believers”, attack those who have different views, and engage in name calling.
Good post.
Scientists like everybody else are ambivalent about looking at things differently than is their habit. Let them duke it out, I say. The proof of scientology working is it makes people satisfied they have gotten what they want out of it. Or that they are continuing to get what they want out of it. Can’t argue with that. Disagreements about scientology such as mine are based upon the THEORY of it. That would be explanations offered as knowledge. Hubbard’s explanations don’t stand up to scrutiny. That’s a LOT of explanations advanced as knowledge that don’t hold water. It is right to expose that especially when that fact is the weak link in the chain that enslaves many scientologists.
Mike,
Your comparisons of DM with Kim Jong Un are quite eerie.
What gall for the demented one to compare himself with a man like Jorge Bergoglio!
I’m not Catholic, but if Pope Francis was the ecclesiastic leader of the COS, it might possibly become an actual church, live by its own principles and perhaps find its way out of the darkness of its own creation.
Scientology is an applicable method of mass mind-control and brainwashing.
Thank you Mike for another great post to use in
disseminating to the bubble dwellers.
You find a lot more similarities when you compare him to other CULT leaders.
Yes Mike M. The Ayatollah Khomeini comes to mind.
David Miscavige: World Greatest Ecclesiastical Beater.
Hi Observer, Good to meet you.True words to describe COP perfectly.Always Ann B.
Dave,
Checkmate.
Dave is THE great leader! He has been the driving force to establish Scn in more than 50 languages all over the world. He has conducted business in such a wunderful way, making William Gates pale!
Unfortunately, it is all in his mirror..
One of your all-time best posts, Mike! Thank you.
Another cracking article with a hilarious denoument!
Hi Mike, An excellent dark roast and from the amazing mind and keyboard of one of the most bitter defrocked apostate SPs the Cult could ever hope to have lost,today your post was and is magnificent.Put David Miscavige one on one against you and he is worse than chopped liver,you will eliminate him with your powerful words to his Shermanspeak.I always wondered why even the still ins forever do not see that David never talks about anything but himself.In 1975 sometimes we would go to private homes near Echo Park and watch film reels of Ron in Phoenix doing lectures and there was one early color one where he was doing light hypnotism at a shopping center.The reason it was not shown at Asho for us was explained as security regarding public that might see the films!Does David ever interact with anyone not his slave or under his command?Not a spiritual leader to my mind at all and the films of Ron interesting but from my perch now proving more my point that Ron was not this benign helpful kind spirit leader who only wanted to give us Tech no so much more than that.Thank you got the tears out of my system ready to saddle up and ride on.Love U & Christie Ann B.
Good morning Ann, I had forgotten about some of those “demos”. As for the little guy, he will have all that MONEY, and no future. Henry
Thanks Ann, interesting post.
Hi I Yawnalot, Thank you so much.There are moments where I can recall like crystal an event I had filed away.I had totally forgotten those 50s movies of Ron I went to see them about four times,they really were fascinating to see the showman- yarn spinner tell and sell as only he could.Can’t figure out the secret of those tapes in that he did not talk about anything I would consider the public should not know,but hey The Sea Org loved hush hush events etc,made us slaves feel special.Clever I’d say.Always read and enjoy your posts.XO Ann B.
Home run Mike! Excellent.
You may have hit on a main difference between a “cult leader” and a “religious leader”. The cult leader is all about himself and a disdain for others while the religious leader is about God, love and the well being of others. Miscavige is the poster boy for the first.
Freaking bullseye.
Nice article about a wanna be… God figure I suppose – he praises no-one but himself, not even Hubbard rates as only miscavige ever knew what Hubbard intended anyway. Anything Hubbard wrote went by the wayside in 1982, along with the mission network and anyone who can think or act for themselves. Miscavige is the most self centred, fully absorbed in self only human ever to walk the earth.
Miscavige hasn’t a religious bone in his body, never has and never will. His crimes against others rate probably as the most betraying of all the flim flam artist’s compulsions. He sells nothing of value only damage and swindles his way through life. He cares for no-one, not even his own wife, niece or father. Imagine what he thinks of someone he doesn’t know?
He’s also not a very nice… anything really, he’s the perfect example of an absolute asshole, what a waste of good scotch!
You’ve really got to learn to not hold yourself back, Mr./Mz. yawn. Henry
“Anything Hubbard wrote went by the wayside in 1982”
LMAO!
It is stunning the amount of completely false info clams hold onto.
My point is John. Prior to 1982, crazy as scientology might be to you and any sane person who’s ever signed up for it, (even you probably voluntarily assigned yourself to it at some point) the system was on paper and able to scrutinized and signed up for as well as “religiously” accepted by many countries and heaps of people (being lied to is pretty common here on earth). That thing called auditing was a participated in activity. People wanted it, if auditing was still available and if auditor’s were still being made according the original template maybe clams like “me” would still want to fool with it. I don’t mind playing around with lower level processes and many a PC smiled at me and called me a friend back in the day. What happened to the organisation is what happened to it. If you think it’s all been a scam from the birth of Hubbard fine and you may be just one of those rare privileged ones.
Your consistent and retrospective hate is your privilege to wear like a badge if you want but just how did the organisation become so big and in so many countries? People believed in it. The mission network was huge and by all accounts people were happy with it and raved about their participation, goodness me the SO even had people signing up for it. Leaders are a fickle lot and do fuck things up from time to time all on their very own. The way miscavige consolidated his power and takeover is worthy a little consideration in the destruction of scientology. His insanity and lust for money and the destruction of liberty to get it even blind Freddie can see. Hubbard according to the many experts who write about him was nuts too. How many priests and public purse organisations on earth now are now scrutinized for child abuse, let alone financial irregularities and what about the ones too powerful to do anything about?
Religion or scientology is like politics in my view and becomes just as (un)workable over time. Military regimes are similar if not worse. How many Popes of earlier centuries ran armies and got up to playing war lord? Religion is a pretty handy power base, like banks and peoples need for money I suppose.
Stunned clams exist across many genre but what really scares me, especially since the 80s is an observable blending of hate and insanity and its growing across all borders and activities world wide. Kids take guns to school, it’s not particularly safe at MacDonald’s or at the movies and air travel is its own adventure of risk. Scientology and NOI, geezers, now there’s a formula for some wicked stuff in the future. The potential use of ‘justifications’ just entered a whole new level.
I completely agree however, scientology as it is, is certifiably insane but to mix hate up with it in this modern “mind fuck” environment is a new beginning of a “formula of nightmares” that scares the crap out on me. Even Hubbard wrote about such things.
Hate as a final or only solution is just as insane – just sayin.
An interesting line was said by Brad Pitt in the movie ‘Fury’ as he stood with a young inexperienced and terrified soldier in the middle of room with dead local government officials of the lost regime of Nazism who all shot themselves in the head now that allies were in their town – “ideals are peaceful, history is violent…”
Hate doesn’t do anyone any good. Justice on the other hand…
Yawn wrote, “My point is John. Prior to 1982, ”
NOTHING changed vis-avis “the tech” or scn’s “religiousness” in 1992. You are horribly misinformed.
Johnny you are a product of the very thing you are attacking.
Potpie has point John, you are very predictable.
Love it John, LOL.
It is not exactly 1982 as it took more than one year to change the face and shape of Scientology. Before takeover 1982 Scientology is now also considered almost the same as after 1982. Anyone that claims that Scientology before 1982 had been good and did produce result is attacked.
But…
a)The time track of the past is not an absolute.
b)As time is a consideration one can change time by changing considerations.
c)As usual after any war the history, the past is changed according to the rules of the winning team. Scientology past is no exception. We did loose the war between 1982 – 1984. At 1992 the takeover had been complete and then the before 1982 track had been changed. The “history books” had been rewritten. As this project is also complete it is now True that Scientology before 1982 had been bad too.
d)But those that are able enough to protect their recall and timetrack can remember a different past.
Schorsch, my Hubbardarian gibberish detector is beeping.
“As time is a consideration one can change time by changing considerations”
Translation: As time is an idea one can change their idea of time by changing their ideas.
I don’t see much utility in that statement. And what is the importance of “protecting” one’s recollection of the past beyond matters of sheer practicality like remembering where you put your car keys? The past doesn’t exist. Nobody has ever experienced the past. They have only experienced thought forms some of which are called “memories” and some of which are called “fantasies” but memories and fantasies are made of the same stuff and the difference between them is only a matter of choice in labeling.
The so-called, “time track” isn’t ABSOLUTE? I have no idea what that means except to say there is no such thing as a time track outside of a person’s idea that there is such a thing. That means it is a thought form, an idea in somebody’s head and nothing more. Is that maybe what you’re saying?
Great post! So true.
Miscavige does not speak publicly, because he has nothing to say. He has no message. His head is empty, as are the cupboards of Scientology (see article by Jon Atack today on Tony’s blog).
The inner sanctum of Scientology is empty.
Great post Mike. This is the world view of Miscaviage, from the outside looking in. The popular religious leaders put themselves on the world stage to let the world know where they stand on the real important moral and ethical dilemmas that face the human race. They feel it is important to offer the world some insight and guidance to navigate uncharted waters. Then tend to possess wisdom and have a command of history. Most are humble and selfless, and empathize with their parishioners. They are not mean-spirited or hateful, but compassionate and caring.
David Miscaviage possesses none of these characteristics. This is why he will never be a religious leader, great or otherwise.
David Miscaviage is a smart, cunning Sea Org thug, who saw an opportunity to control Scientology and seized it, stepping on dead bodies along the way.
David Miscaviage will never be beloved or admired by those outside the bubble. Not solely because of personality, but because Scientology as a “religious philosophy” lacks the basic qualities that the world expects of a religion.
Think about it, why would anyone expect David Miscaviage to emerge as a great religious leader when LRH never did?
Why after 60 years, Scientology, even with IRS tax-exemption, is not considered a real, legitimate religion? The answer is rather simple – because its not, certainly by world standards.
So, really, all David Miscaviage is, is a would-be religious leader of a would-be religion.
Exactly. A religion that has the true answers to individual spiritual enlightenment in its hands (as the church of scientology claims) would have no need to have as part of its tenets Disconnection or Shunning.
“A religion that has the true answers to individual spiritual enlightenment in its hands (as the church of scientology claims) would have no need to have as part of its tenets Disconnection or Shunning.” ………….exactly. Unless Scientology has something to hide.
Well, a true religion would never make itself out to be something its not. The Catholic Church does not pretend to be something it is not. Scientology, on the other hand, habitually, chronically misleads the public claiming it is the product of “scientific research”, and does not require belief. This is not true. Nor does the “church” want others to know this fact. Their actions are fraudulent.
Excellent points Mary and Statpush. May I add that religion should not be a ‘pay for enlightenment’ system creating classes of people who’ve reached the top compared to those who lack the wherewithal to ever reach it. Yet at the same time, they are all practicing the same ‘religion.’
This especially doesn’t make sense when there is secret material that some know and others do not, and are forbidden to know until the right time, meaning they’ve paid their way up to it.
How can they then be truly practicing the same religion? It’s very disjointed.
Excellent posting Mike, thank you.
The delusion of his post and title itself, takes him apart from being a leader:
-there is nothing ‘ecclesiastical’ about scientology which, IF at all, may be a philosophy, but never a religion.
-he definitely is not a ‘worldwide’ one and his empire has shrunk 47X.
-and someone that ‘leads’ well, it sort of guides and is followed; the majority of duped followers that pretend to adore pompadour do so because they are in terror; staff runs away from miscavige,
That is why his empire is as as small as his ‘stature’ and game not worth sharing by the millions around the planet.
Loved that punch line, Mike! LOL And the hair is truly significant. Anything for another inch or two of height. Small man syndrome.
Oh, C’mon now, TGM77, that’s an insult to all small men! He has Tiny Man Syndrome. Bordering on Tinny Tiny Man Syndrome.
The Chairman of the Pompadour has a slightly better hair cut, compared to Kim Jong Un. I expect he has a well trained Sea bOrg hair stylist that travels with him. He tells Karin Pouw to put out that he is like a pope, but Mikes essay proves that is not the case.
He is more like Creflo Dollar meets a third rate Les Dane meets Charles Ponzi.
Does anyone know if The Pompadour is actually growing out of CoP’s head? His hairline sure doesn’t look like it.
I’m picturing a Sea Ogre in the hole, styling rug after rug, while other inmates carefully pack them up in Louis Vuitton luggage. Or arranging them on shelves above the racks of his John Lobbs.
OMG! What if he really is bald! Can you imagine a disgruntled See Borg member running on stage and snatching the hair piece off of his head? Of course…that person would never, ever been seen again. But, his name would down in history!
There might be hope. My confidential resources at Flag inform me that Miscavige has routed on to his first auditing action in many years. The newly uncovered Douchebag Rundown. Let’s keep our fingers crossed
Hi Joe, A very timely post.Douchbag Run down never fit a scammer better than it will fit David.Always Ann B.
Based on what a religion IS, he would be considered a “religious leader”.
religion: the condition of one who is a member of a religious order
Religion ≠ Good.
David Miscavige is a religious leader in the same way Pablo Escobar was a religious leader
CMS, that’s probably an insult to Pablo…
David Miscavige is the leader of a criminal organization that pretends to be a church so they can steal more money.
Yep, I’d say you pretty well nailed it.
If you consider LandLord a religious title then, yes, Miscavige is a religious leader
Brilliant DMST ( I am so stealing it..) thanks baby
Miscaviage is not tall enough to lead anything but a sausage dog.
But Kim Jong Un is one ugly fat psycho
Isn’t he though? But, he is the Der Dwarfen Fuhrer’s Idol! I mean, how many dictators use an anti-aircraft battery to kill someone? Corn of the COB must be licking his chops thinking about it.
It does show a certain sense of style.
I for one would happily pay $100 donation to see “shorty” fed to a pack of African hunting dogs
TT, I’ll tell you what, I would pay for both of us to see that. And, yes, it does, indeed, show a certain sense of style. A maniacal, homicidal style. But a style nonetheless…
Mike,
You’ve hit the nail on the head. This article should fuel an editorial in a major news media publication.
VWD
Frank
I have never been so happy as now to be a bald man.
Al, this song is for you and all your follically-perfected brothers-in-chrome-domes:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t144cdYJj8U&itct
Wonderfully well written analysis. Tweeted to the vast Interwebz.
You forgot to mention that the other leaders believe in the religions they are leading (and by stating that I in no way mean to infer that I believe that scientology is a religion.)
Case in point Miscavige has not had training in his purported religion for probably 40 years, allegedly punching someone on course during his last training.
He also refuses to be audited. I wonder if this is because:
A. He knows auditing doesn’t work and wants nothing to do with it;
B. He believes has personally altered “the tech” so much that he knows auditing no longer works; or
C. He believes auditing works and they will figure out how bad he is.
No other “leader” spends all their time micromanaging their religion, they allow the religion to speak for itself and spend their time glad handing.
D. He knows that if he gets even close to an e-meter it will register massive rock slams and then blow up. I’m not sure anyone would be able to audit someone with that amount of pure evil in them.
OSD, perhaps he could start with a run around a pole? Henry
You just keep making this wonderful sports day better and better, Henry. I would pay top dollar to see that with a bonus where I get to throw rocks at him. What a wonderful scenario that would be…
Good morning Valerie, I had no idea the little man refused auditing/training. Now that would make a great interview question:” If the religion you represent is bettering society why don’t you use it?”….. Henry
Henry, even if the person asking that question was not a scientologist, he would still try and put him/her in the RPF. Either that or his head would explode. And instead of gray matter coming out, it would be black.
I think he doesn’t want to be audited because for those few minutes that he has to be a preclear he will have to be under the direction of and controlled by someone else, the auditor, and that just AIN’T happening for this guy.
Hi Steph in NH, Good to meet you.As for me none of my auditors ever controlled me and I do believe they would not want to audit David Miscavige,but my Sec-checkers had control down to a fine art.Take Care Ann B.
Hi hgc10, I liked your post.It made me think that the only important person of any stripe David Miscavige ever met,and I don’t count TC, gazes back at him from every mirror he passes.Always Ann B.
I would audit him. If he gave me any trouble I would slap him.
Really, really hard? You know a major bitch slap? One that would knock him down? And then you would slap him on the ground? And then kick him? And tell him he’s a midget? You’d be my hero, Potpie…
Hi OSD, Potpie and you will both be my heroes if that happens to such an incredible thetan and leader.Always Ann B.
A doctor, David Miscavige, a little boy and the Pope were on a flight on a small private plane. Suddenly, the plane developed engine trouble. In spite of the best efforts of the pilot, the plane started to go down. Finally, the pilot grabbed a parachute and yelled to the passengers that they better jump, and he himself bailed out.
Unfortunately, there were only three parachutes remaining.
The doctor grabbed one and said “I’m a doctor, I save lives, so I must live,” and jumped out.
David Miscavige then said, “I’m the ecclesiastical leader of scientology, I am the most important man in the world, I am the smartest person in the world and I am the only person on this plane that deserves to live.” He also grabbed a parachute and jumped out of the plane.
The Pope looked at the little boy and said, “My son, I’ve lived a long and full life. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. Take the last parachute and live in peace.”
The little boy handed the parachute back to the priest and said, “Not to worry Father. The smartest, most important man in the world just jumped off with my back pack.”
May I have your permission please to post this on the Underground Bunker?
Of course. Anything on this blog can be posted anywhere anyone wants.
Hi stillonyourside,Thank you an absolutely spirit raising perfect post! Always Ann B.
Mike, this is one of THE best posts you’ve done. You laid it out in black and white. No shades of grey. You called a spade a spade. That little pipsqueak is all that and more. Humility has no room in Der Dwarfen Fuhrer’s world. In fact, I believe he views that word in a highly negative context.
Hey, you ‘still ins,’ I hope you read Mike’s post. This is truly what your so-called leader is like. Wake the fuck up!
As if David Miscavige would share his plane! 🙂
Share his plane??? The leader of the Galactic Federation?? Who’s on a first name basis with Xenu (who continues to be locked up here on Teegeeack)??? AS IF!!! He wouldn’t share a glass with someone dying of thirst. Unless, of course, that someone is handing over huge amounts of money to him. Then he might give him/her a sip…
Hi OSD, You tell it my other brother in-arms! Love U & your wife.Ann B.
:). Aw. One can dream
An old joke, but still a good one. It does speak about the narcissism that is Davie Miscavage, just one of his more endearing traits.
Thanks Still on Your Side. Can’t stop laughing!
Thanks. Still laughing…
Great post Mike. Exactly the key difference. Only the dumb and vain talk about themselves the way COB does.
But since we are telling jokes, I have one too.
COB and his crew arrive at heaven’s door where they are informed they first have to cross the swamp of lies in which everybody sinks according to the lies he has spoken in his life.
The inch wifes walk in and are soon up to their belly in mud. Karin Pouw quickly gets in up to her neck. As they look back they see COB standing just his feet covered in mud. Astonished and perplexed they call out: “Sir this is amazing!’ And COB says “Psst, be quiet. I am standing on LRH”
Hi Gerhard Waterkamp, Your post made me smile broadly today. Thank you. Always Ann B.
🙂
He’d still be up to his neck in mud.
Even standing on LRH, he’d disappear into the mud without trace…Forever gone! Now, is that a great thought or what???
Absolutely Awesome!!!
Right! If Miscavige were all he claimed to be by his lawyers and alter egos (Karin Pouw, et al.), he would be seen and heard other than in his own bubble.
And the hair! Spot on about the hair, Mike. Screams despot! 😉
I’m tellin’ ya, Mary, when Der Dwarfen Fuhrer has any down time, he jets off to North Korea to hang out with his best buddy, Kim-jong Un, and to learn at the master’s feet.
Who’s the master in this scenario.
Kim-jong Un. Corn on the COB would like to be like Kim!
Some really excellent points and a very well written piece. Miscavige so misses the boat with respect to what humans in general respect. Would be so uncommonly refreshing if he had ever acknowledged the extremely hard working Sea Org members that contributed to his “great accomplishments.” Never once in all of the years I was in SCN did I ever here him acknowledge anyone but LRon or Tom Cruise.
Humility is one of the most admired attributes that he so sorely lacks. I was very recently at the funeral of an extremely beloved individual. She was both physically beautiful as well as beautiful inside. She was also smart, funny and very intelligent. But she also had an endearing self-deprecating manner that strongly contributed to her overall allure.
Over 600 people took off on a Tuesday afternoon to pay respect to her. She had many accomplishments in 63 years. As well as I knew her, never once did I here her brag about anything.
This comment is a lot about my respect for my beautiful sister-in-law who died this week. But, also about my utter lack of respect for a “religious leader” that thinks it’s all about him.
Maybe if he were a bit taller, he wouldn’t be so self-absorbed.
Sorry for your loss, Sheldon, and my condolences to you and your family.
Thanks, Mary
Hi Sheldon Goldberg, Thank you for your beautiful post.At 64 hubby and I have lost a bunch of friends to cancers etc and I feel your loss.May your lovely sister-in-law shine on all of us wherever she is.I enjoy your posts always and David cannot hold a candle to those who have gone on and those here who know the Truth about this Cult.In Sympathy and Understanding,Ann B.
Very sorry for you loss, Sheldon. “Maybe if he were a bit taller, he wouldn’t be so self-absorbed.” Sheldon, if that little prick was taller, the self-absorption that he exhibits would be through the roof.
According to my spouse, the only time a man acts this way is when he’s trying to compensate for something else. Henry
You are one smart son-of-a-gun, Henry! Compensate indeed! And that’s going to take a hellava lot of compensation.
Someday, just like all of us, the arrogant “straight up and vertical” twerp will be down and horizontal. All his billions will not by him longer life, nor love, respect, or happiness.
The BBC news article “Why is Kim Jong-un always surrounded by people taking notes?” (25 April 2014) available at http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27116092 is EXACTLY what Demonic Midget does during his daily rounds. Great SPs (minds?) work alike…. As if anyone here needed confirmation.
Good catch there, James.
You lost me at Leader
Hahah ah ah
🙂 Me too. The number of followers barely warrant the need for a leader.
David Miscavage is every bit an ‘ecclesiastical’ leader as Creflo Dollar is Preacher. Same for Joel Osteen.
He is every bit a leader as Donal Trump is.
While one can bring a knife to gun fight, who is unarmed in a battle of wits? DLHDM or Sarah Palin?
potpie is so hot I just lost it
Kim Jong Un doesn’t have Miscavige’s podium tech. Perhaps the Dissemination and Distribution Center could fit a few custom jobs for him into their busy schedule of banging off Ideal Org bling?
“A more apt description for Miscavige would be tin-pot dictator of scientology.” Mike you are in fine form today. What a great succinct article that exactly positions DM with the person he should be positioned with and is most like. And the hair! They both got it right! One of your best articles. Thanks!
I woder sometimes if he designs the podium firdt, then the org
Impressive podium tech!
Right on Mike! Absolutely accurate observation.
Thank you! Glad to know I’m not the only one who sees this….Sheesh.
thanks grace love
I’m sorry Mike but I have to disagree. David Miscavige in his role as ecclesiastical leader of Scientology is helping Scientology salvage not only Earth, this sector of the guh-lax-y, well…the entire universe actually. So to put himself in a position of vulnerability with any public presence is jeopardizing every man woman and child on Earth.
I hope you’ll rethink your position on this matter considering what is at stake, OK?
The word ecclesiastical means of or relating to the Christian Church or its clergy. So it is very strange the dwarfenfuhrer uses it to refer to himself. This is especially odd since Blubbard’s blasphemous upper level “scriptures” portrays Christ as a homosexual. Oh yeah, I forgot. It’s all a crock anyway so why should I be surprised.
Hi Glenn, I agree it is all a crock,but when the bs was boiling many years ago so many of us dipped in the ladle,and even today those still in continue to enable David ex: IAS.David Miscavige comes along and poisoned what had not been burned up in the crock beforehand,just pull out any old Ron copyright and David is off to the races.Always enjoy your posts. Ann B.
Thanks, Glenn, for pointing that out. “Ecclesiastical” does, in fact, refer to the Christian Church. As does the word “parishioners” for the Catholic Church. But, I guess they figure if they say it enough, people will buy into it. Both those words are pretty funny for cult.
Spoken like a true believer, Joe.
But in order to say that means you have to discount, discredit, annul and make void every point raised in the school of critical analysis questioning the validity of this churche’s doctrine. I say nay nay nay. There is no such thing as a Clear, for instance. I say the whole thing is a sham, and I have to say it, because it puts the focus on analytical proof to the contrary, which is scientifically impossible, as no such proof yet exists. In other words,
nothing is at stake.
Scientology is all imagination, made to be believed. Considering all the families ripped apart in the campaign making that happen, perhaps we may demand some real talk from the leader. Until he does, the only right thing to do is abandon the church, and mark the entire doctrine as invalid, indeed.
Mark, I hope you don’t mind if I copy this quote to my keeper file (with link and attrib.)
Well Said
Kim even has the same Sea Org symbol on his podium.
Thank you for this Mike. This mornings post is one of my favorites. You have managed to describe David Miscavige’s empire and his identity perfectly and exactly.
You got it right. Check. (Made payable to COS).
“And finally. there is the hair. Check.” LOL!
+1
Thanks for the laugh, Mike.
Yup. Spot on. He’s a dictator, and a poor one at that.
One of the downsides of sending Shelly out to pasture, is she might have noticed this hair gaffe of David Miscavige.
Chuck, I can’t imagine David Miscavige doing anything as generously and unselfishy as the Catholic Pope actually does in real life myself either. Now all David Miscavige needs is the right color mascara and rouge to really look his best. 🙂