OMG, does this put the study of scientology in perspective.
Hubbard rambled on and on in books and lectures to such an extent that if you just complete one chapter of the books and lectures each week it will take 29 YEARS.
And this does not factor in the 17 Tech Volumes and 11 OEC Volumes which contain about 5 times more words than all the basic books combined.
It also doesn’t include the LRH EDs, which are a couple more volumes about the size of an OEC or Tech volume.
Now, according to Hubbard, everyone should study all of this in order to attain full spiritual freedom and secure your eternity. I never much understood the concept of securing or guaranteeing your eternity as the fundamental concept is that you are an IMMORTAL spiritual being. Immortal means living forever. Forever is eternity.
I would NEVER put out a promo piece like this, it highlights some uncomfortable facts. Rather than encouraging anyone to do more, I think it more likely will convince them this is a hopeless task.
Even worse, if you read and absorb all this wisdom from Hubbard, you will NOT be smarter or better off. You might be able to parrot more Hubbardisms, but the extent of your study and agreement with the twisted logic and false information from Hubbard directly correlates to your inability to think straight and exert free will. I’m also pretty sure NOT reading this will do more to improve your eyesight than all the promises of Dianetics ever could.
Alcoboy says
And here I thought Mormonism was bad! Some years back I read a book by Mormon apostle Spencer W. Kimball called “The Miracle of Forgiveness “. I was excited because I was about to find out how to have my sins forgiven. When I finished the book I gave up any hope of forgiveness and eternal life. You see, according to Kimball, you first have to perfect yourself before Jesus will cleanse you from your sins. WTF?! This sounds like something similar, having to jump through a lot of hoops to attain Clear and OT.
Jere Lull says
“11 OEC Volumes” … WHEN in the last 40 years did they expand the Org board to 11 divisions? Or is it no longer 1 division being covered by 1 volume?
Mike Rinder says
Vol 0.
Vol 1 – 7
Management Series Vols 1 – 3
Scott Sizer says
I just read that the Andromeda Galaxy is 2.5 million light years away. So, if you as an operating thetan were looking for something to read on the trip, Hubbard’s entire ouevre would fill the bill.
If the DC 7 had an overhead screen, you could watch ALL of the Scientology videos that were ever made. No wait: Wrong trip! That’s only if you were going to Hell.
Reed M Schroeder says
Back in the 1950s when it became apparent how much interest there was in”exteriorization “(afterall Hubbard made it seem so easy. ) Hubbard decided to take advantage of the situation by making exteriorization a cornerstone of Scientology. The book Creation of Human Ability became the handbook of Scientology. Since the reactive mind was associated with.the body, then , to be exterior was to be unaberated. Ie a “one shot clear”. Well, the problem was nobody ever got exterior. This apparently didn’t bother Hubbard when he started on this path, because of his confidence at being able to bullshit his way through anything. Well, the day eventually came when Hubbard had to partly give up the exteriorization scam, and come up with some bullshit for why it wasn’t working. Apparently “out-Int” was part of that. I never learned exactly how the bullshit went. It may have had something to do with a problem in getting back in to the body. So Hubbard came up with the Interiorization Rundown to fix the problem of Out-Int.
John Doe says
Come on, people!!! At least do ONE lesson a week! That way, when you’ve finished, your Hubbard-installed 1950s World View will only be 29 years more out-of-date!
The Chronological Study: More Lessons is Lessened More™️
Chee Chalker says
The real question is how much do all these lessons COST?
mwesten says
Just shy of £4.5K for all extension courses.
That’s on top of the £17.5K for all books & lectures.
So £22K ($30K) all in. 🤮
Refs:
https://newerapub.com/products/extcrs-basics/
https://newerapub.com/products/extcrs-congress/
https://newerapub.com/products/extcrs-acc/
https://www.newerapublications.com/store/item/legacy-collection.html
GL says
I get headaches from reading Tony Ortega’s daily Source Code quotes from Tubby each day so go…xxeennuu…sorry sneezed…god knows what 29 years of lessons would do to me.
No, wait, I just worked out what would happen after 6 weeks (with apologies to David Cronenberg) –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdwPGZi-3yQ
The Moose says
If you study one per day, you’ll be done in, hey, just under five years! Imagine how mindless you’d feel after that.
Chris Shugart says
Or, don’t do any lessons and save yourself 29 years of ruining your life and destroying your relationships with your friends and family. Now there’s a bargain.
Ruby says
Oh, and by the way, when you do finish all this…you have not completed any official processing or training step on their “Bridge to Total Freedom”. This is all extra curricular study to the actions one needs to become a certified auditor, processing completion, clear or OT.
Alcoboy says
Which, according to old timers, Hubbard didn’t require.
Chuck J. says
I tend to agree with G. Filbert’s statement. There’s maybe 1% of it that’s worth looking at…. or whatever number it was that he mentioned. Maybe it was less than 1%?
GL says
Sturgeon’s law states that “Ninety percent of everything is crap.” In the case of Tub O’Lard that figure goes up to 99.99999%. No, I’ll be generous; 99.9999%.
OTD says
I recall hearing the phrase “out-Int” in one of those videos for Golden Age of Bleck or Knowledge.
Can someone explain “out-Int” please? Also, use it in a simple sentence as you said it or heard it.
Thanks!
SupremeSassMaster says
“Out-Int” is just a typo. When someone meant to say “In-Out”, they transposed the parts of that phrase and it read “Out-Int”.
The term “In-Out” is about people trying to put an end to outlaw Scientology. It’s about Law Enforcement getting the evidence “IN” from some witnesses and then using that evidence to get the church leaders “OUT” of office and put into jail.
It was originated by some opponents of Hubbard who were on to him right from the start and knew that any money given to this fake religion was just a waste of money because it is impossible to outlaw a religion in most countries – especially the USA.
People who send money “IN” to the fake church or the many blogs opposing the church are just “OUT” of luck and will never get that money back.
Since all these fakes want is your money, it is best to just keep your money and don’t throw it away by donating it to this church or any blogs who are about outlawing the church. That just won’t happen so do not waste your money.
mwesten says
OSAbots, roll out!
mwesten says
Hub claimed going “exterior” (aka leaving your body) during an auditing session can sometimes trigger memories of past deaths/births, resulting in headaches, anxiety, aches, pains and an aversion to being “in” something (such as a body, a job, a space…or a cult). He called it “out-int” or “out-interiorisation”. If someone is out-int they can get an “int rundown.” If that doesn’t work they can get an “end of endless int rundown.” Oh and body thetans can also be out-int. 🤢
Tldr: It’s a term used to describe some of the ill effects of Hubbard-induced dissociation.
OTD says
Thank you. That clarifies it for me.
Badafuco says
There is a movie out right now on Paramount channel called INFINITE about remembering past lives. They even use the infinity symbol on the poster and promos. Total Scientology vibe to it.
nomnom says
The hidden message is “Don’t even start. You’ll never make it.”
Even worse for staff,
Paul Kawaller says
These times assume that you somehow avoid the time it takes to resolve the inevitable contradictions that show up in these “lessons” and any ethics actions for bypassing misunderstood words. I recall on the original FEBC that they “discovered” that some of there graduates couldn’t define simple English words. There was hell to pay.
Ms. B. Haven says
Ah, the memories today’s post brings back. I recall listening to RJ 85(?) back in the day where a seriously brown nosing narrator is interacting with Hubbard who is making a phony attempt at humility. The narrator makes the incredulous claim that computers were still trying to catalog Hubbard’s incredible output since he undertook the task of saving mankind.
With crystal clear hindsight, this translates as Hubbard was able to pull shit out of his ass faster than the best computing abilities of the mid-80s.
Mark says
Aha! Just swim in a vast sea of exalted, frothy Hubbard feces to reach the legendary shore of Supreme Shitty Salvation!
Sounds legit, sign me up!😉💥💣😂
kingRidiculous says
I have to believe some joker and degrader or perhaps an agent of the Marcab Confederacy created this promo.
Mark Kamran says
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The joker …..they are the biggest joke on earth.
Jere Lull says
“I’m also pretty sure NOT reading this will do more to improve your eyesight than all the promises of Dianetics ever could.”
Oh yeah!
Cuts down on the number of splitting headaches, as well.
dr mac says
I used to be one of the org’s top students. In fact one year I got an award for being the top co-auditor of the year. Initially I enjoyed study, as I’m sure many of the grouchy readers here were at one time or another. One isn’t allowed to have negative thoughts of course, but in the far reaches of my sub conscious I used to think one has to get through an awful lot of rambling to get to the meat. That’s roughly when I was on OT levels. Then I decided to study at home – long before Covid. Now I could freely think for myself and of course realised only about 5% of what Hubbard said was worthwhile. But I still thought that 5% was REALLY worthwhile. Next I realised every one of those ‘worthwhile’ concepts was already in a red volume. So why listen to those rambling lectures. Then I became convinced the lectures were simply a form of hypnotism – that monotonous never-ending tone of his put you in a form of trance. Then I quietly put all the lecture series in a hard to reach cupboard. Several years later I put them even further away. Any takers? But I’m not going to entirely negate scientology. It changed me into a more intellectual person (if that’s worthwhile) and there were times I really enjoyed it. But no doubt about it, OT levels knocked out any enjoyment whatsoever.
Keith says
I really hope that you called where you kept them the L Ron Cupboard.
MarkKamran says
That is where I keep all my headache medicine which I need whenever I read any of the Con Man’s dribbling.
Peridot says
To dr mac—Your statements and experiences resonate. I commonly enjoyed my times of study. I didn’t even mind learning all the seafaring terms or the bits about photography and lighting, so copiously gone over in the Student Hat course.
However, like you, I privately many times considered, “Wow, this is a long winding road to get to the point.” Another private thought I had, “Didn’t LRH already state and emphasize this point a couple of lectures back?” I allowed for this, considering “Well, as Hubbard says, people are basically walking zombies in a fog who cannot easily understand anything.” And that explained to me, in my own mind, why he felt inclined to repeat and repeat and repeat the same few things over and over across many books and lectures, etc.
If you are reading this and were never in, I will explain the reason for keeping such thoughts private: it is an offense if you express a critical thought about ANYthing that Hubbard wrote, including if you offer an observation like, “Didn’t Hubbard abandon this process after 1953?” Even if you know he abandoned a particular process in 1953 (because you studied where he says that), it is a “technical degrade” in Scientology to state or imply that ANYthing Hubbard wrote is old, unnecessary, or outdated.
Also, dr mac, like you, I can allow for the idea there may be some sort of trance phenomenon at work. I see that (now). Certainly, there is some sort of trance phenomenon at work for people enduring what they endure in Scientology, since the dark underbelly is so completely counter to your aims toward success or personal happiness. (Drowning in inescapable debt, much?)
bixntram says
An historical observation:
Jesus wrote nothing down.
The Buddha wrote nothing down.
Hubbard couldn’t stop writing stuff down, and it was all garbage. If you’re spending all the time it takes to slog through it, you’re not reading anything that’s actually worth reading.
Donotwretch says
The one thing he wrote down very often was the promise he would come back. He could never stop writing about that.
I was just looking at some weather reports and I think he may be coming back this weekend near New Orleans. There is a big huge hurricane that is huffing and puffing and will blow shit down. Just like the Con Man. It’s Hurricane Con!
But don’t be fooled! That can’t really be the return of the Con Man. If he ever really did return, the first thing he would do would be to blow away all of the donations people send to support this blog. Even Ron would get tired of seeing the same reports published day after day with slight variations to the theme.
Ron would not like that. Even the Con Man would find it boring.
Bixntram says
Hmmm. I wish they’d start naming hurricanes differently: Hurricane Hubbard, Hurricane Kirstie, Hurricane Cruise. Maybe some day in the future.
Loosing my Religion says
I think it’s enough to see the real behaviors of both hubbard and miscavige (everything is well documented) to understand how many times they were really fully exterior or perhaps fully ‘interior’.
For example, punishing others day after day is not certainly something you can call being exterior full perceptions.
The guy is rather ‘interiorized and dramatizing’ his own crap big time.
valboski says
The only “out-int” going on is when Miss cavidge and Cruise are together……..
Geoff Levin says
Yes, this overwhelming apathy is achieved by the cherch member understanding how much Scientology there is to study and this cannot be overemphasized. Reading all the books and listening to all the lectures is purely a status thing IMO. Because Scientology is all about status and building up ones ego.
However it does make you more stupid and unaware. And this post by Mike shows how clearly Scientology “think” produces the opposite effect that the scientologists want.
Glenn says
That promo piece is one of the BEST foot bullets I’ve seen yet.
The REAL motto at the bottom should be DONT DO ANY OF IT.