Hot off the press…
This is a new level of desperate.
Announcing to the world that they got a single person to buy a book — some person looking for a romantic partner who is apparently a nerd got caught on a MeetUp.com phishing expedition by a reg at LA Org.
Take note of the defensive attitude in this “promotion” piece: “anything new or different gets rejected by those who don’t understand it and haven’t taken the time to understand it – thus through mental laziness find it easier to reject and discard it.”
So much to unpack in that sentence.
First, you can be certain the person who wrote this has no idea of the real truth about scientol0gy — ie they have not reached the OT levels.
Second, this is a classic “you don’t know about it, so your opinion is invalid” which falls apart the second you consider I am certain I know a LOT more about scientology than this person does. And I reject it.
Third, the accusation of “mental laziness” is likely true about the writer of this hype — they believe anything and everything they are told about scientology and L. Ron Hubbard BY scientology. They never investigate anything for themselves.
But all that aside. LA Org and ASHO combined “win” is that they got a person to buy a book. Wow!
Scientology is shrinking fast.
The Scientology Fair Game podcast is on Utube.
A bunch of us couldn’t find it fo a few weeks. I have no idea why.
https://youtube.com/user/MichaelRiffo
It deserves special mention that these are NOT reging achievements in some remote outpost somewhere, such as a village of 300 in a rural area of a developing country. This is what passes for “success stories” in LA, the place with the greatest concentration of scientologists on the planet.
What’s more, both marks did not seek out the “church.” They had to be tricked by non-“religious” front groups that did their best to minimize all references to their true backers.
It is obviously wishful thinking that this science geek has been nursing a “long-term curiosity about scientology.” As a real credentialed scientist he would have been undoubtedly more than equipped to do research on any subject his little heart desires. Moreover, the cult does not exactly make it hard to locate their sanitized, official come-on information. (Xenu forbid, he would just google them instead; game over at that point!).
So why did he wait all this “long” time to satisfy his pent up curiosity? If he’s really “sci-curious” why is he getting into the game through a front group, most likely something like “Tools for Happiness?” Why didn’t he just call the “church” and ask for information on scientology or dianutics specifically, instead of seeking info on how to enrich his dating life?
And reading Huckstard’s “science”, becoming familiar with the quality of his “researches” and the quantity of his empirical data (or the dearth thereof) is unlikely to prove an asset in a genuine scientist’s quest for a credible “source.” Even if he just sticks with the approved reading list and never finds out a single thing about the real Elron.
Romeo will figure out soon enough that joining a shrinking cult with an abysmal reputation is about the last thing he wants to do if his objective is enlarging his potential dating pool. Not to mention that dating requires time and odds improve greatly for those having some coin to show for themselves. It’s safe to say that the cult will do its level best to alleviate him of both of those.
That whole little fantasy story about Atiyo has the now par for the course overwhelming stench of bullshit from an increasingly desperate and decomposing $camatology.
If he does stand up comedy, I wonder if they’re getting trolled for material like that woman in Austin did.
If he does standup comedy, he probably already has a couple of punchlines about the cult. Most comedians do these days…
This is just further proof that scientology is dead, only feebly twitching from time to time.
If the guy really has a PhD in chemical engineering, it’s going to be amusing when they tell him that niacin purges radiation from the body and he has to tell them that’s not what radiation is.
Speaking of dissemination…
Scientology does not even rate a mention in the 2020 Census of American Religion.
The census:
https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/
A google search of the link and a text search of the story confirm that neither the word “Scientology,” “Scientologist” nor “Scientologists” is mentioned.
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That is due to $cientology being an evil cult that destroys lives not a real religion that helps people.
Good to see “Unaffiliated” is the largest group.
That testimonial has all the truth of a Penthouse Letter To the Editor. And it is no where near1 as stimulating. Bragging about 2 book and 1 dvd sale?? Maybe the Reg will get 2 kidney beans in his rice this week. Hilarious…..
This person is reading Dianetics and will probably end up confused. However, I spent years with the second book Self Analysis and that just might hook him. I hope not.
Talk about self-hypnosis. That’s all “self analysis” is. The ‘up’ side is that those who do so are likely to end off when they’re feeling good. In that, it might be the greatest “win” they EVER achieve in scientology. That’s pretty weak sauce.
In the 1970’s I was auditing a middle aged man on Self Analysis on the cans in an auditing session. Maybe it was part of introductory auditing to get a person familiar with recalling memories or mental image pictures as they are called in scn. The auditing “command” was, “Recall a time when someone had just given you something.” He started waving his hands in the air saying, “No! No! No!” He was reliving an incident when he had been dropped off at an orphanage when he was a child and someone was trying to give him an ice cream cone to calm him down.
He got through it. Strange things sometimes occurred in auditing sessions.
“on the cans” means in a metered auditing session for never-ins.
Scn describes memories as mental pictures which are looked at similar to looking at frames on a motion picture film with accompanying perceptions. The man I audited might have been living his whole adult life with that incident just below his surface awareness and was probably grateful to finally take a good look at it and “erase the charge off it” in scn lingo.
I just watched aftermath, and started listening to the podcast. I’m sure this has been answered before, but here’s my question… Sea Org members work 24/7. What exactly are they doing for that long? Cover ups, fair gaming, trying to get people to join? If all the buildings are empty, what exactly are they doing all the time?
Typically Sea Org members get up in the morning around 7 AM. They catch a bus from the property where they sleep to the property where they work. They eat breakfast in the crew dining area, usually a buffet with oatmeal, eggs, toast, etc. All the staff muster up by divisions and a roll call is taken to verify no one is missing. There may be a quick announcement or point of coordination. Individuals then either head off to their post or to the 2 1/2 hours a day mandatory study time of Scientology material. Posts vary greatly. Some may work in Scientology hotels and restaurants. Some may do maintenance, grounds work, renovations, etc. Others may be course supervisors or councilors for either staff or public. Some may have clerical work doing filing, holding receptions, answering phones, writing letters, producing and mailing out promotional pieces, etc. Breaks are taken for lunch and dinner and each is followed by a muster, similar to what was done after breakfast. At about 10:30 the staff start getting bused back to where they sleep. They get some sleep and repeat. Most Sea Org members are lucky to get a handful of days off a YEAR and they are lucky to get one 2/3 week vacation every 7 or 8 years. The atmosphere always seems to be kept in a OMG, screaming, must be done NOW, emergency or else mankind will cease to exist. No time to slow down or take time off – even if there is. No one would every want to be found to have the idea that things were otherwise. It would basically be considered a crime and group members would be obligated too report the individual to Ethics. Group members proudly brag about not taking a day off in years or not taking a vacation in decades. Its like a badge of honor and a way to stand up to CONSTANTLY being accused of not working hard enough or producing enough. Every individual has a statistic for what they produce and it is monitored, in many cases, down to the hour.
I’m a never in, so I hope someone with more experience can help more than I. The Sea Org is considered the ecclesiastical arm of the cult. Each member is assigned a job just like Wal Mart has different jobs for people. They have people who clean, cook the rice and beans, keep the grounds, audit others, and sell, sell, SELL! Most of the jobs that deal with the public involve raising money! in various ways. Often these people are not paid or allowed to sleep until they reach whatever stupid goal has been set for them. That’s the people are so excited about selling one lousy book.
For the most part, Staff do mindless make-work
Cassandra, Sea Org members in $ciendollatry work as slaves cleaning and building their MEST
Sea Org members spend time learning and training how to manipulate and deceive themselves, each other and others to bankrupt them dry, steal their children to work as slaves and gas light each other.
Sea Org members build the props and make the propaganda for the $cientology Dog And Pony Show to trick themselves and those that watch $cioCorntology
It’s a full time plus gig to keep Homo saps under undue influence and mind control trickery
$camontology is a huge trap of mind fucking proportions
LMAO! They just hooked an illegal PC. If he is an engineer for the DoE he has a HIGH SECURITY clearance with the US Gov.
Maroons
OK … So are Atiyo and Kaeylin gonna meet up or what? … Kaeylin, get a move on it sweetheart, the dude’s got a PhD in chemical engineering, a top job, plays music, writes poetry AND is a freaking comedian! …Better grab him before a single public chick (or a sharp staff nember) sees him as her gold ticket past the toll takers of “the Bridge” …
Do we even think this is a real person? Because why would someone with a doctorate in Chemical Engineering work for DoE? You’d either be academic or working in petrochem for a lot more money.
Elizabeth, LOADS of people with Engineering PhDs work for the Dept of Energy. LOADS AND LOADS. Plus he can retire early and get lifetime payments of 33% of his annual salary, full medical benefits, vested Gov 401k, etc., etc. and STILL work at a high paying private job.
Because a gummint job a) has amazing benefits, b) tends to be cushy, c) usually pays quite well, and d) is nearly impossible to get fired from, regardless of how incompetent one is or how egregiously one screws up. Working in petrochem would require actual effort.
The DoE was a pretty prestigious gig, last I checked. As a recent grad, he’s still in the “starving student” phase, so money isn’t so much of a concern. If he could have gotten a gig at some university for room & board & a little stipend, he would have been overjoyed
Poor guy. It’s not hard to find out who this person is irl. He’s bought a couple of books and already his new “church” has boasted about snagging his degree educated ass and made known the fact he’s lonely, has few friends and a failed marriage.
I do hope the alarm bells are ringing.
Do they really want new people in Los angeles? When I walked around Big Blue a couple of times in October I got the impression they were more interested in keeping people out than getting people in.
The parking lot was roped off, I tried to say hello to a couple of staff members and they wouldn’t even look me in the eye and then one of the security guys on a bicycle tracked me down to ask if he knew me.
Either Tony Ortega or Mike Rinder previously mentioned scientology was targeting Meetup.com
One fish snared by them is still one too many. How long until Mr Too-Busy-Professionally-And-Academically-To-Have-Social-Life realizes he is now Mr Too-Busy-Scientologically-To-Have-Any-Life?
While this is probably too small fry to merit a mention in the press, I wonder how a meetup.com event doing a tour of cult businesses in LA would do?
Imagine the fun that could be had with a meetup.com equivalent of the cult city tour of Clearwater?
With a bit of luck, it might be enough to persuade the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology to stop waylaying people who are trying to gain a social life, not lose everything they own…
When he can’t pay his rent.
O/T. Academic paper: Secular Invocations and the Promise of Religious Pluralism. (Relevant to and addresses Scientology.)
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Secular Invocations and the Promise of Religious Pluralism.
https://scholarship.law.bu.edu/faculty_scholarship/981/
https://scholarship.law.bu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1978&context=faculty_scholarship
The following excerpt summarizes recent First Amendment and Equal Protection law that is relevant, and indeed is beneficial, to Scientology.
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Thus, when the Court held in Zelman v. Simmons-Harris and Mitchell v. Helms that the government has wide discretion to funnel public money to Christian schools,3 Muslim schools and
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3. Zelman v. Simmons-Harris, 536 U.S. 639, 662–63 (2002); Mitchell v.
Helms, 530 U.S. 793, 801 (2000).
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organizations representing all types of religious beliefs, from Scientology to the Hare Krishnas, started asking for (and receiving) public money as well.4 When the Court in Good News Club v. Milford Central School held that public schools must allow proselytizing Christian groups to use their classrooms after the end of the school day,5 secularists and Satanists started running their own clubs in those same classrooms.6 When the Court held in Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board v. Pinette that the government can let private Christian groups put up their displays and monuments on government property opened up as a public forum,7 Wiccans and Atheists started putting up their own monuments in those forums.8 And when the Court said in Town of Greece v. Galloway that town boards can start their meetings off with sectarian prayers, so long as they do not discriminate on the basis of religion,9 individuals with all sorts of religious and nonreligious beliefs, from Hindus to Pagans to Satanists to secularists, started asking to give their own invocations, and many have in fact done so.10
This phenomenon represents the fact that religious minorities (and nonbelievers, though from here on in I will simply include nonbelievers as a type of religious minority) have largely recognized that the Supreme Court is no longer particularly interested in keeping religion and the government separate.
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4. See WEXLER, supra note 1, at 113, 115, 117, 120–21, 123.
5. Good News Club v. Milford Cent. Sch., 533 U.S. 98, 112 (2001).
6. See WEXLER, supra note 1, at 149–51.
7. Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd. v. Pinette, 515 U.S. 753, 769– 70 (1995).
8. See WEXLER, supra note 1, at 44–49.
9. Town of Greece v. Galloway, 572 U.S. 565, 591–92 (2014).
10. See WEXLER, supra note 1, at 63.
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Information about the paper:
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Jay Wexler, Boston Univeristy School of Law
Author granted license
Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International
Document Type
Article
Publication Date
Spring 2021
ISSN
1090-3968
Publisher
Roger Williams University School of Law
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Scientology tells it’s followers that “anything new or different gets rejected by those who don’t understand it and have taken the time to understand it.”
I was in for thirty years, and thought that same thing. Until I didn’t think that same thing.
Cons are not new and different. This won’t be the last one. New and different does not apply to scientology.
Mental laziness tells you to not investigate. MAA’s and Ethics officers tell you not to investigate. Policy tells you not to investigate. You will be congratulated if you do not investigate.
You will suffer if you do not investigate.
You will be punished if you do investigate.
In 2012 I was friends on Facebook with about 300 people, most were scientologists. One of my “friends” posted that I was friends with Aaron Smith Levin, and that a goldenrod had been issued on him. I was at flag so I went to the MAA to see this goldenrod. I did not see it, but was asked a bunch of questions, a grilling almost. I managed to leave without being eaten alive, so I went and looked online and saw an article about him and his mother, I glanced at it while “not reading it.”
That got me a black PR sec check.
In 2016, I was on staff at the grand opening of Atlanta org. A public told me of some bad PR comments on the google reviews for the org. I looked and saw “another soon to be empty building” sort of quote and reported it it the DSA.
That got me another black PR sec check.
That sec check was my wake up call. Six months later I was out.
I did not like that sec check/FPRD when receiving it, I’m still shaking it off. Best sec check in my life though. I would recommend it to anyone still in, hopefully it would have the same effect on them.
MRI/Cat scan my brain:
tattooed in weals of bas-relief scar tissue
“what overt did you commit just before you read that article?”
encircled with unending weals of the buttons.
……….
dip me in ink and roll me on paper, it’d make a helluva design
“New and different does not apply to scientology.”
That can’t be repeated too much. Reminds me that “nothing good in scientology is new; nothing new is good.”
😂😂😂😂
Thirty years they spent for the return of their Massiah (1986 – 2015 )
Then Next thirty years for the reincarnation of Jesus ,Budha, Pharoah, Benjamin Franklin , Abraham Lincoln. Elvis Presley , etc etc
Then next thirty years return of Tom Cruise , John Travolta , etc etc
You see how fast the century is over .
It’s a common phenomenon amongst Cults ,some of them playing this game for last 200 to 300 years or more.
But Now it’s Game Over ,like extinction of Dinosaurs millions of years ago.
We doing to have new type of cults : Techno Cults from the land of India , China and Russia gripping the world at the speed of light .
We have seen the glimpse of it ,when Redditors brought down a gaming company stock in a day , six months back.
Yes, it’s pretty painful and pathetic to see all this ‘enthusiasm’ for nothing.
Nobody would care about scn in any way unless it is presented as something else and peppered with PR and lies (which is what they do, but it still doesn’t interest anyone).
Well, ANY sale is MUCH larger than the usual zero. INFINITELY better, as a matter of fact.
They must have fixed their tracking spreadsheet by now to cope with the odd weeks which have ∞% stats increases (a.k.a. #DIV/0! )