Apparently Footbullet Dave can never be satisfied with shooting himself just once or twice. He just has to keep blasting away like Yosemite Sam on steroids.
A normal person would learn their lesson and not repeat the same idiocy again. But that would be the logic of mere mortals, not big beings like Dave . He “knows” when something he has ordered blows up in his face that it was only because the constant parade of SPs he has working for him have once again deliberately sabotaged his genius plans. So he has them “get it right this time” and do it again.
The Squirrel Busters blow up in his face so he sends them to do it again on camera at LAX. Jenny Linson, Marc Yager and Dave Bloomberg acquitted themselves brilliantly. You can even hear Dave’s orders being executed:”the reason it blew up was that the idiots didn’t say ‘I am dong this personally not on behalf of the church.”‘ You have to tell him he is meaningless and nobody cares about him, it will totally cave him in.” More brilliant guidance that resulted in another viral video.
Of course, nobody can forget the classic “Let him die” story of the PI’s who were arrested while in the process of surveilling Dave’s dad with a trunkful of illegal weapons. And the whole sordid story that tumbled forth following their arrest that hit the front pages all over the world.
So, naturally, when Ron Miscavige went to visit some old friends in Portland, Dave just couldn’t resist. I guess he was especially worried as there are a few ex-base staff there including one of his former RTC Executives Shelly Britt, ex-Marketing Executive Jeff Hawkins and the former Chief of Security Gold Jackson Morehead.
Ron and his wife were staying with Shelly and here is how she reported it:
I was having trouble with my wifi and noticed a “NSA Surveillance Van 23” on my “available wifi” list (it disappeared after 10 or 15 minutes). Knowing it wasn’t the NSA I was prompted to go outside and check things out. (Ron and Becky were away visiting with other friends.)
From my driveway, I noticed a white Ford SUV pulling in to the Animal Clinic nearby. It parked with a clear view of our driveway. And it looked exactly like the black SUV that was clearly following us home from the airport Saturday when we picked up Ron and Becky (it was a rental and disappeared after we let him know we knew what he was doing).
Another vehicle then pulled into the Animal Clinic parking lot and blocked the white SUV’s view. The dude moved to another location, again with a clear view of my driveway. A few minutes later a large delivery truck pulled up and blocked his view. He moved again.
At that point I got my fiance, Randy, who went out and snuck up behind him. He told the guy that David Miscavige could go fuck himself. That got his attention. Any normal person would be like “wtf are you talking about?” But not this guy — he knew damn well “wtf”. He pulled out his camera to take a picture of Randy, but forgot to remove lens cap. He had surveillance equipment on the front seat next to him. He got out of his car so we could get a full frontal. Randy told him he was going to contact the police and the dude made a hurried departure.
It’s the same guy that was following us Saturday, just a different vehicle.
This is VERY typical scientology PI behavior. They use rental cars as there is no chain that can link them directly to the church. They usually drive SUVs because they are higher off the ground so its easier to maintain sight of cars you are following. But the vehicles are common enough not to be memorable. And they switch out cars every day or if they are “blown.”
And this guy looks like the typical low-rent PI that get hired for this sort of short-term fair-gaming. Reminiscent of the PI that bought my garbage (you can see him in the third video in this posting).
Here is his skill on display – as I said, low-rent.
Miscavige is losing his shit.
The world is caving in around him and he is powerless to act.
The Belgian situation is dire. Holland just lost tax exempt status.
Leah Remini is blowing up everywhere he turns and her bombshell book is coming.
Louis Theroux is about to hit the airwaves.
Going Clear is heading for an Academy Award.
And the worst news of all — that big being genius has turned his own father into a crusader for truth.
Oh, how it sucks to be Dear Leader.
PS: Don’t you think this “PI” has a remarkable resemblance to the Popeye cartoon bad guy, Bluto? And isn’t that just too appropriate?
Especially as you know Popeye is going to pop open his can of spinach whupass and Bluto is going to be seeing stars…
UPDATE:
Eagle-eyed Marc Headley (who incredibly NEVER forgets a name or a face) pointed out that Bluto was the same guy who met us at Salt Lake City airport when we flew in together for Sundance. We had anticipated this, so we came out separately, I was the “tethered” goat and Marc the spotter and cameraman. We didn’t need to be so clever as Bluto was hardly inconspicuous…
He did manage to remove his lens cap, but who knows, his battery may have been dead…
The other thing is the “swat” call on him
What I would do is find a friend who has a tiny body like the Dwarf (if this is possible as he is very small) and get a Dwarf mask and wearing a bouffant wig and wearing a suit.
He will have to be able to do the Osmond type smile all the time as well
Arrange a secret meeting that this PI can find easily.
The PI will photograph you having a secret meeting with the Dwarf himself.
This should send him over the edge. He may think he has a double or is a really there.
What do you think?
Unbelievable. I mean this guy is hardly inconspisious.
The things these lowlife parasites will do for money. And the COS. Labels its agitators as SPs and degraded beings. I mean just look at this gorilla. Not the type you would choose to represent the most ethical group on the planet.
Desperation is most certainly setting in.Davey boy definitly missed the carriage this time.
Why is everyone’s first reaction in the CoS to start taking pictures? It seems like if anyone starts acting negatively, they just start taking pictures. Do they think that’s threatening? Are they saving it for their personal reports to declare them an SP? Or to submit to police??
You harass someone and shove a camera in their face in the hopes they will react in some way that can be used against them as negative PR, or as the basis for some legal action, like they did with Marty Rathbun.
Words from a crook showed me the way
To give all my money and not complain
But the price of that fiefdom we all must pay
From now on
We decided to never ask
And to give Dave a ton of cash
He’s got balls
Real estate
And gold bullion
He’s got balls
Never ending
Donate-athon
He’s got balls!
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Should have called the police first. Had him IDed. Why don’t ex scis take a more forceful approach? A ‘I’m being harassed approach.’ Could have gotten a police report with e guys name on it. Perhaps useful in the future.
Possibly. But this is a lot more fun and got a wonderful shot of Brutus firing away with his lens cap on! Can’t beat that. And often calling the police really accomplishes very little. Having dealt with these goons for many years now, it usually doesn’t result in anything except police being distracted from their more important work. Someone sitting in a car in a parking lot, even if he IS watching someone, is not illegal. Many cops will not even write a report on something like that.
Mike, you are always finding the best stuff. Thanks for the facepalm, with the accompanying, “DOH!”. Hilarious with the lens cap.
“Someone sitting in a car in a parking lot, even if he IS watching someone, is not illegal.”
True, but it sure was fun asking the Sheriff to check up on a guy who had backed his car into a space facing my residence from across the street the previous two mornings. I made sure to emphasize to the Deputy that I didn’t know for sure, but this guy MAY have been stalking an ex-spouse.
Don’t know who or why he was there, but he hasn’t shown up since.
Marc Headley’s ability to recall faces names and information is supernatural. I mentioned this once on another forum and got a face beating. Laughter!
He says his memory was horrendous when he was in the SO, but after leaving and getting adequate sleep and food he has an almost photographic memory. I can attest to that.
I couldn’t get the link or video referenced to load.
“And this guy looks like the typical low-rent PI that get hired for this sort of short-term fair-gaming. Reminiscent of the PI that bought my garbage (you can see him in the third video in this posting).”
Is the video still available somewhere?
Click on that link where I mentioned it and it takes you to the blog post which has the video embedded in it…
I think you linked the admin/edit page as I only get a login prompt when clicking.
Very sorry, my error.
Try it now.
If you don’t get it that way, here it is again: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=22404
I love your posts Mike and look forward to reading them every day. I have been thinking recently about how it really does suck to be David Miscavige. Many things are blowing up in his face all at the same time and there is a lot happening behind the scenes that he doesn’t have a clue about. There are so many enemies he has created with his psychotic and irrational actions that it will soon be true that the “whole world is against him”.
There are hundreds and hundreds of ex-Scientologists who are actively posting anti Scientology stories, opinions, and experiences they have been witness to on a half dozen websites or more and then there are also many other people who have left David Miscavige’s cherch to carry on as independent Scientologists denying him the income he would have received had they remained in his cherch. Even the people around him who are supposed to be supporting him at Int or Gold certainly have their own thoughts about how insane he is and while they will never admit it in a session or tell anyone who will write a “KR” (knowledge report) on them they certainly don’t like him.
He has a lot of legal battles being fought not just in the United States but in foreign countries as well and his Narconon group is being sued by more than one attorney and it looks like they are going to win because it really was fraudulent and people died. I am pretty certain the IRS is taking interest in all of the goings on and may be starting to open the door to his losing his tax advantage.
With all of this going on I think he is probably reading a lot of the “entheta” being posted all over the internet or at least reading a condensed version of it presented to him by OSA. He is surely heavily over re-stimulated, caved in, and looking forward everyday to drink his troubles away but they are always there the next morning with new troubles on the horizon. All of this couldn’t have happened to a more deserving individual. It really does suck to be David Miscavige.
“…there are also many other people who have left David Miscavige’s cherch to carry on as independent Scientologists denying him the income he would have received had they remained in his cherch.” So true, and also consider the absence of all the energy and work those people are no longer doing. I myself took a look at what my loyalty and work 25/7 (not a typo) was worth, and what it was like REMOVING it from mi$cavige’s little universe. Times that by hundreds (thousands?) of sea org staff who have left. No more working for this idiot. He is a truly crippled, pathetic individual. I just should’ve seen it a lot sooner!
Who’s got the “Pie Face” now, Dave? Hmmmm?
I think we’re seeing Dave get it on EVERY click. 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlkpiGx-84k
This looks like a lot more fun than the old pie face, eh Mike? Truth be told that if you wanted to make a whole hell of a lot of money for charity, just set DM up in a booth like this, tie him to the chair and charge the staff 5 bucks to throw a pie in his face. Even at SO pay, I think they’d do it. LOL 😀
Season seven of David Miscavige. He sure knows how to hold on to a starring role. Where the whole theater is all about HIM.
He’s got one supporting actor, (Tom Cruise) , and everyone else are “extras” including L.Ron Hubbard now.
It comes as no surprise that someone as self-absorbed as David Misavige with an insatiable craving for attention would exploit his current religion as a publicity stunt in a pathetic attempt to get ratings for his pony show to remain relevant.
🙂 on that last paragraph, Oracle.
People are going Clear and OT in their own homes without even setting foot in a Church of Scientology. Can some people keep a secret? Yes! How difficult is it to listen to someone’s bank? Not difficult at all if you care. What can anyone from the Church of Scientology really do about that? Sue someone for going OT? I am laughing as I write this. Straight from DM: “The guy went Clear? Sue him. Take him down”. In the long run I guess that is about the long and short of it. 🙂
We are the illegal immigrants into the “supernatural”. We explore without a hunting permit from Miscavige Inc.
DM doesn’t own a God damn thing – never has… all his possessions are stolen.
LOL….Oracle, it’s not his religion. He is NOT a spiritual being in the slightest. It’s his Secret Plan to Rule the Whole Universe and Beyond. (Pathetic, yes, I know….)
Hilarious, Oracle!
Soon ol’ Dave will be on the fringes of the Internet, stomping his feet like a petulant child and raging about how it was all taken away from him by the “bitter apostates”.
“I don’t WANT to do a time out!!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWcPoxmZos
I threw a temper tantrum like that when I was two years old and was made to wear one of my brother’s t shirts. It was the idea of being dressed up like a boy. I went so violent I fainted and had to be resuscitated. Before I fainted I managed to rip it off me.
After that, I was free to wander through the closets of the women around and wear their high heels around the house even though they were ten sizes too large for me. I used to put pickle juice in a wine glass and drink it like I was drinking wine while watching telly. I started that when I was seven. The people around me were very afraid of me.
I know a lot of people are regretful of their experience with Scientologists. Not me. Those people faced me head on and actually invited me to “be myself”. At least, in the beginning. Through Clear.And that was enough time for me.
It’s way too late for David Miscavige to fk me up, he was not able to stand in my way, personally.
I wanted to “pay it forward”. He got in the way of that. But not me personally. You can see by current events and the very substance of Mike’s post, the man can not see when he is in a danger condition and bypass normal habits and routines.
That is not a mind boggling effort, for most “wogs” can do THAT! DM can not think with the ethics formulas. It is not HIS purpose to put ethics in on the planet, he resigned from the Sea Org to work at Author Services. Long ago.
He is just a self important executive wasting resources and being a pirate. Really, very ordinary.
David Miscavige giving the job interview to “GOON”
Question 1. Have you stopped beating your wife?answer, NO
Question 2. Are your tattoo’s all prison made? answer, YES
D.M. Your Hired , GOON 10th rate
That PI goon looks straight out of that scene in “A Bronx Tale” where Chaz Palminteri demolishes a squad of bikers who’ve just descended upon his restaurant and shown “a lack of respect” for his bartender.
This is basically cross-burning 101. The become more like the KKK every day. They plant their crosses on the lawns of psychiatrists; that’s the only difference. And like the KKK their members are fear filled rabbits.
They need goons because they have lost the ability to confront life or see reality. Miscavige is only the straw that stirs the drink (apologies to Reggie Jackson).
It would be remiss not to mention that, like Bluto, the term “goon” originated in the Popeye universe (in 1933, to be exact). Just an interesting point to make.
I will not go into what “goon” means in gay slang. You can cognite that on your own.
do you man: Alice the goon? a popeye character. I kind of resent her name. (my name is alice)
It is also the appropriate sobriquet when referring to arsenal fans.
Hi gtsix, Soccer is on at my house alot. Hubby loves all sports but watches without the sound and cds on.arsenal is one of the clubs that comes on,I think.Hope I am a little correct.Always Love,Ann.
You know, I have been studying during the last few months about the pathology of a cult leader, trying to ascertain the hidden motives behind their actions. The works of Dr. Steven Hassan is particularly very applicable to this.
I had this curiosity to find out whether DM was only motivated by greed and power, or if he was actually being a loyal robot to LRH. The theory of many was that he was all about power and money. But somehow, the data from many past and recent events made that profile unaccurate. These constants “errors” that DM is committing , as with his use of primates PIs , demonstrate that he is just blindly following LRH’s policies to the letter regardless of what the world at large think of them. He is actually being VERY loyal to LRH in his own twisted psychotic way. Otherwise , he wouldn’t commit so many foul ups. This is a fascinating subject to study ; “the pathology of a cult leader’s heir”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HRyINb9Ow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw-oF-Z_I7U
TC
I agree with you TC….I think DM is directly following in the footprints of LRH but is also into the power and the perceived ‘prestige’ of leading an ‘international religion’. He’s certainly not able to write the voluminous amounts of material like LRH. DM is IMO the classic short man……desparately attempting to be the Big Being. Hey, I’d be mad if I was smaller than a 5th grader
The wealth buys him power….it’s not like he
shares it with his family or has to keep a stable of expensive mistresses. I’m guessing Lou doesn’t spend a whole lot on make up and high end fashion.
How many fake naval outfits does a girl need anyway?
It is fascinating…. I always wonder if evil people ever sit back and wonder what the end game is…….when DM is 75 (if he makes it that far with all that smoking) what is he going to have at the end of his life? Will anyone truly care when he dies? Maybe Lou because her power will be gone, but other than her……it’s sad really when you think about it.
What a pathetic little man David Miscavige is.
Please. Don’t be enturbulating. DM in power at 75? No, no, no.
Ummmm….NO. If he were actually following LRH’s writings to the letter he would never have altered the tech and policy letters and toasted people who wouldn’t bend to his demands and make his squirrel changes. If you didn’t live and work at int you have no idea. (Not that LRH is perfect, not by far.) But mi$cavige is a mentally ill psycho “following” only himself and his own selfish means.
If you were “committed” at one time, did you do these things? Probably not. You can hold Hubbard accountable for DM, but do not for yourself?
See, here is the thing., maybe six million people crossed the halls of Scientology by now over half a century. How many of them became David Miscavige? One.
That is a real count.
I think that you missed my point , dear Oracle.
TC
How many members of the CoS know about this and lots of other rather scandalous stuff David Miscavige is doing in the church’s name? Let us use this as one example of how the CoS is different from other churches. Outsiders know what’s going on in the church but the members don’t. People will be people and you see misbehavior all the time but that misbehavior isn’t typically written into most churches scriptures and policies. That’s TWO ways the CoS is different from most other churches.
Why all the pi’s ? I guess they can harrass the people they follow. But sitting outside a house, staring into a person’s home, follow someone to the grocery store-what do they hope to see. I guess they think we sing songs and dance to anti-scn. tunes. Maye they think we have secret meetings and make bombs to blow the cherch up. What a waste of time, enegy and money. Which of course is good for us and we don’t give a shit what happens with the cherch.
A lot of this has to do with being able to report to Dear Leader at any hour of the day “what is happening, what is Ron doing, who is he meeting with?” It has nothing to do with finding out anything valuable. It is to satisfy “COB” need to know everything about what his “enemies” are doing so he can plan his next death blow.
They take photos so they can prove they were there and so Linda Hamel or Warren McShane can hand over the photos as “proof” they are “doing their job.”
It’s utter insanity.
But then again, that pretty much defines life in corporate scientology in the Golden Age of Miscavige
Ok, so Dave after constant surveillance of his dad finds out he is in Portland visiting Shelly C who left RTC more than 20 years ago and maybe others? Who cares! I while I am way less important than Dave’s Dad will happily visit far worse people (in Dave’s eyes) in the USA. Weird.
Reminds me of an interview I heard from a man who answered to Sadam Hussein who said everyone was in such fear of his wrath, that they would do their best to report what Sadam wanted to hear.
Completely priceless!
Comedy Central live.
Nothing short of a piece of 4×2 has any impact on a moron.
As for the architect of all this stupidity. A leopard indeed cannot change its spots. The same tactics dm used to usurp power within the organisation are a constant. While no one suspected his full motives at the time it makes no difference now that the cat is out of the bag. One foot bullet after another now forms a very visible trail.
In retrospect miscavige was always like this. The one thing that he has no solution for is being treated like an idiot. He just gets bigger and more stupid as the light is cast upon him.
Like a rabbit caught in the spotlight – don’t expect any rationality to what happens next.
The sooner he becomes yesterday’s news the better.
Yes. Exactly.
IMHO, from the vantage point I had/have, Heber and Mike were the two main people who kept DM under wraps so that the world couldn’t see what a petulant, arrogant, cretin he is.
They were the face of Scientology and both of these people have manners and decency and carry themselves with dignity.
Now that Heber has been subdued (like Annie Broeker) and Mike is out putting DM in Checkmate all the time, the world can now see the emperor with his new clothes.
Naked as a jay bird both physically, mentally and emotionally. God help him in his journey into insanity…or not.
And did I mention that he’s a really bad liar? Ted Koppel interview snip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V887cGfEErw
In order for the PI to know and follow Ron, Sr. from the airport, he had to have been given the flight information. How else would he get this information but through scientology’s in-house travel agents. This has to be a major breach of airline privacy rules.
Perhaps Ron could contact the airline, and complain that his private information was taken and used against him.
That breach of privacy via the travel agents has been going on for many many years. It used to be announced to us (at least 15 ears ago and longer) at “base briefings” that “we” had the ability to find out where escapees were headed by having travel agents cooperate with us and disclose where particular people were going…airport, departure time, airlines, destination (so others could meet them and harass or kidnap them to get them back) and even find out who paid for the ticket. Yes, it it totally illegal. But billions in your war chest does make a difference.
They do have SO who used to be travel agents who can get on computer and find your flight info and change it. When I wouldn’t re-sign for more auditing and told them at midnight I had to go to my hotel to sleep so as to get up at 5 am to catch my flight out, one of the people who were detaining me there against my will asked what airline my flight was on, disappeared behind closed doors, and came out saying he had changed my ticket for the next day so that I could stay an extra day (to be regged). This was done without my permission. So yes, the SO has people that can access all flight data on anyone. Talk about invasion of privacy.
That’s outrageous. Makes my blood boil. Perhaps I’m naive in these matters, but how is it they get away with doing that and no one does anything? I realize the cult gets away with far worse, but how have they been able to illegally tap into people’s flight info with no consequences, ever?
I think you could talk about it in a different way, Cindy. I think the word is “kidnapping” or “being held against your will”.
That always struck me too.
While many things are done by the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology are far worse, this is (or should) illegal and so very obviously not “religious” by a definition used outside the Co$.
And not too hard to catch, since it appears to be fairly systematic.
Tax evasion brought down Al Capone: one never knows how far prosecuting an individual breach of the law can go, especially as soon as you add inter-state and a bit of a cover-up to the mix…
“A normal person would learn their lesson and not repeat the same idiocy again.”…M Rinder
“Only the sane, well-balanced person tries to correct his conduct.”…LRH
It seems plain enough, but for Dave bringing in the muscle to intimidate seems to be the only way. The Hole, LAX, Texas, Freedom Magazine and many more are just points of force and failure. Dave just keeps flailing away missing the mark each time and catching himself in the face on the follow through.
I guess the error made by rational people is expecting others to be the same or similar.
To wrap your thinking gear around what miscavige considers survival is a study of unprecedented stupidity. It’s unprecedented to the rational mind because it’s not based on survival at all. Like a whole heap of despots before him the scrap heap awaits. The damage he has done is obvious to only a few but will the rest discover the true impact after he is gone? Of course not, life will just cover it all up and scientology will be relegated to the same impact as the Orange People or the Billy Graham Crusade or some such movement.
The next despot is already in the shadows, now who’s got a good idea?
Kinda makes me wanna set up a fake website for “Bluto Investigations” 🙂
Aaaa-ka-ka-ka-ka…
Wow, another Louis Theroux expose! Can’t wait! I could only say Gibney’s magnum opus could only be better if the blu ray had extended or more interviews as extras. And thank you to The Hague, His Majesty Willem-Alexander, and Prime minister Mark Rutte for looking out for their country.
If you’re not tatted-up, overweight and a bit greasy you need not apply for employment with Dave. Pierced and a police record are a plus will probably get you to the head of the line.
The OT 8’s sent down to Texas didn’t get the job done, close family members sent to Clearwater failed to cave their target in and the A-Team lead by Jenny at LAX fell on their face as well. It only seems right that Dave would outsource this sort of work to breakaway members of the Hells Angels.
Does that mean that the local Hell’s Angels clubhouse is now an org? And if so, does that count as expansion?
The Hells Angels would not have him or any other biker gang
Most certainly! They probably have the most members of all the other orgs.
Hell’s Angels have a heap more integrity than the Cof$. Money won’t buy you into the Angels, they’ll just bide their time and take it off you if you’re stupid enough to hang around.
What is the purpose of the picture taking by $cientology goons? Is it purely for intimidation? It’s just so… weird. I don’t understand why they believe that to be so important.
It’s the tech used by LRH based on 1940’s and 1950’s era novels.
Sam Spade, Mike Hammer, and the ilk are made up characters
that get a reaction from pulp readers and movie goers.
Scientology duplicates this for the same effect.
from the snake in the mailbox guys !!!!!
It is based on LRH’s policies on how to handle critics of Scientology. Conducting “noisy ‘investigations’ ” , and “harassing the critic” are two of such methods. The idea is to overwhelm the target and make him retreat by driving him into apathy. This isn’t LRH’s original ideas ; he adopted it from ancient Chinese military practices. Although LRH’s methods are described in many policy letters , one in particular summarizes it all quite clearly : HCO Executive letter 5 Sep 1966 , “How to Do a Noisy Investigation” :
“…Soon as one of these threats starts you get a Scientologist or Scientologists to investigate noisily.
You find out where he or she works or worked, doctor, dentist, friends, neighbours, anyone, and ‘phone ’em up and say, “I am investigating Mr/Mrs ………. for criminal activities as he/she has been trying to prevent Man’s freedom and is restricting my religious freedom and that of my friends and children, etc”.
You say now and then, “I have already got some astounding facts,” etc., etc. (Use a generality.) It doesn’t matter if you don’t get much info. Just be NOISY – it’s very odd at first, but makes fantastic sense and WORKS. (Honestly, you feel a real dill, its [sic] so reverse to all detective work.)” End of quote.
You can find more data here at this link :
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/audit/foster07.html#attacks
Best regards ,
Peter
I don’t know. These days it seems to backfire much more often than it works.
The difference is that
1) everyone has a camera on themselves at all times
2) the internet allows them to share those images very fast and widely
In this context it’s very easy for the noisy investigator to become noisily investigated… Or worse… By the thousands of eyes which get to see the images.
“I don’t know. These days it seems to backfire much more often than it works.”
Exactly so , Kemist ; these days it no longer applies , actually , and anyway , it only “works” when dealing with truth. Otherwise , it always recoil on the user. DM has no truth left to deal with.
TC
I think it’s an effort to ‘key-in’ some incident/implant described in the book History of Man, i.e. it will introvert you and hopefully make you sick.
Just looking at Hagrid is enough!
They have no other tactic available without a jail sentence attached.
Most excellent Mike!!
I can’t speak for the effect that the cult’s “noisy investigations” have on others, but I know the effect it would have on me.
Persecution brings out a side of me that is not altogether sane.
It even surprises me when it comes out, which has only been twice in my life, thank God.
It was like I was someone else. Both times I became, suddenly, a lunatic. I scared each of the people coming after me quite a bit and one of them I almost killed, and would have if I hadn’t been pulled away by others.
I can only describe it as a kind of utter recklessness, a complete lack of fear or regard for any consequences, an attitude of “OK, you’re after me, you want to hurt me, kill me? Fine, bring it on, here I am, do your best, and you may kill me, but you’re going to get seriously hurt while doing so”.
As I said, not exactly what you’d call a sane reaction, and no doubt it would play right into the cult’s hands, but I suspect that their PIs might get a little nervous.
And my gut instinct about Ron Miscavige Sr. is that inwardly he has this same attitude, this utter lack of fear about anything the cult might do or threaten to do to him. I think that the fact that he decided to write this book, and announced the fact along with its title, “Let Him Die”, demonstrates that he’s not in a state of mind to be afraid of his son. He knows the cult cannot hurt a hair on his head. All they can do is harass him in this petty way. The world is watching, he is protected, and Niblet is toast, to mix a metaphor.
Ron Sr. is from Philly and doesn’t take no sh*t. If he’s not happy about something, and he’s pushed too far, he can’t help but open a can of Philly whoop ass on his ‘little one’.
I heard a story about Ron while in. A friend of mine was doing some work up at the base. DM was being particularly surly that day. One of the staff looked at Ron with a look like, “Can’t you do anything about him?” Ron said, “You think I can do something about it? He’s been like this since he was a kid.”
I think it’s time for a little fatherly whoop ass. We’ll go get you a really good switch off the tree, if you need it…as long as we get to watch.
Popcorn, anyone?
Same here…the squirrel busters coming by for a visit reeeeeeally pissed me off. It was quite a while ago, but I blew them off and they went away. I knew they’d be back because they had accomplished nothing and would’ve gotten yelled at and told to go back and do whatever their valiant assignment was. So I pulled the nozzle of the garden hose up close to the front door and turned the water on and left it like that if I ever needed it. Would’ve loved to hose down those cameras. tee-hee…I didn’t even have to go outside for their second visit. I just told them through the closed door that I already called the cops and they better get off the property fast. They did!
But the best part was when a neighbor came by a couple days later asking about the car they were using with the logo on it…were they rodent exterminators? Priceless. (I said Yes.)
Sounds like the proper and sane response to me, Aquamarine.
Out-crazy your aggressors.
Is it just me or is that Goon a spitting image of Terl from Battlefield Earth?
It may be deliberate and part of DM’s tech.
Can someone put the surveillance picture of Bluto with the lens cap on in a Christmas card and send it to the midget this year? You couldn’t have paid for a better shot. And how much more goon-ness could a paying customer get? Unless you put John Travolta in a fat suit with a beard and tattoos.
Great idea, Alice!
…keep blasting away like Yosemite Sam on steroids….
Come back here you muley-headed maverick”
“You ornery fur-bearin’ rebel … you’ll pay for this!”
“Now, ya carrot-chewin’ coyote! Git a goin’!”
“Start walkin’ ya doggone long eared galoot”
“Now get that flea-bitten carcass off’n my real estate!”
“Stranger, you just yupped yourself into a hole in the head!”
“So long, sucker! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha …”
“What’s up doc? I ain’t no doc … I’m a pirate, sea goin’ Sam”
“Blast your scuppers ya barnacle bitten land lubber”
“Say your prayers varmint … dead rabbits tell no tales”
“Oooo ya long eared, fur bearin’ flat-footed varmint!”
“Blast his scuppers … I’ll slice his liver out for this!”
“Shut off that judybox! … I can’t hear myself a-speechin’ ”
“Oooo … that gastronomic, epicure, culinary crepe suzette … I hate him!”
“Aha! There ya are ya buck-toothed barnacle … say yer prayers”
“All right all right don’t rush me, I’m-a-thinkin’ … and my head hurts”
“Nobody ‘ill vote for a flattened out rabbit skin, a-huh huh … I always say”
“Who am I? I’m Sam Von Schmamm the Hessian … that’s who I am”
“I’m a-sailin’ with the tide … or my name ain’t Shanghai Sam … and it is”
“There’s your piana rabbit … now let’s see ya play it”
“Ya doggone idgit galoot … you’ll blow the ship to smithereenies!”
“I’m the hootinst, tootinist, shootinist bobtail wildcat in the west!”
“Oooo … get me a a mouth piece … I wanna a hapus corpeas!”
“Great horny toadies! I musta dug clean through to Chiney!”
“Back, back, back … down ya shark livered varmint!”
“I smells carrots a-cookin’ … and where there’s carrots, there’s rabbits”
“Oooo … that dirty bilge rat has be-fouled my good name”
Scientologists are a lot like Looney Tunes’ characters. My friend dubbed John Alex Wood “Wile E. Coyote”. With very few exceptions, Wood makes a fool out of himself daily, in search of quarry for this vile cult. But, it’s always funny to watch him hit walls or fall down ravines! (They don’t get the reference! Which makes it even funnier!)
The Yosemite Sam works for all the darsh gone foot bullets these goofy Miscavige hired PIs and “buster” squads.
I think they’re trying to make us laugh ourselves to death!
Like the hyenas… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iyYjvNgmo
New FB group – GOONS ‘R’ US
David will now implement a new Special Internal PI Directive known internally as SIPID.
All PI’s must dress in clean clothes and must shave and erect pompadours and only use “point and shoot” cameras with automatic lens covers.
What a laugh !!!
This guy is a reject from a casting call for a
new Bond super Villain.
Maybe I would have him give out candy on Halloween
for local children but as an Official GOON,never.
It would take me 5 seconds to take this guy out, 7 seconds max.
I mean pull his beard and solid fist blow to the top of his head
and he will be a walmart greeter ever after.
Miscavige you suck at GOON recruitment.
The message DM had for Marty at the airport was: “‘ You have to tell him he is meaningless and nobody cares about him, it will totally cave him in”.
Yet, this same idea is what terrifies DM the most- that is why he has used Tom C. Simple, Tom C obviously attracts lots of attention, cameras, photos, people admiring him and so on. DM, by being close to him, imagines that part of that attention goes to him (he deserves it) just by the simple fact of being TC best friend.
Himself, alone, would not even attract the attention of the PI above described, far less from Popeye.
Yes Mike, it really, really sucks to be Miscavige!!
There are both state and federal laws against representing yourself as a government employee.
For the federal statute: “Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 742; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
Texas prosecuted people for representing themselves as Marines. As you might expect, there is an exception to wearing a military unifiom when not a member of the military for wearing the uniform when it is integral to a dramatic performance.
I read Ortega’s blog yesterday about Leah and KR’s written on her. I might be bringing up something already discussed but I was totally amazed to see that Miscavige (after a couple private meetings with Leah) gave her back the $300,000 she spent on her “interrogations” at Flag after the Tom Cruise wedding. It is as simple as that? Just be a well know celebrity, get a private meeting with Miscavige and sure no problem I’ll cut you a check. That CYA move blew up in Miscavige’s face for sure.
I think lawyers representing people trying to get their money back should use that. Miscavige bypassed all the church policy mumbo jumbo and cut Leah Remini a check when she asked for her money back because she felt the “auditing” she received was incorrect. How is this different than the “regular” people who want refunded for incorrect auditing or no results as promised?
As David Miscavige marches on, his path of betrayal after trust gets longer, wider and very solid. He is getting sloppy though…hiring a PI who doesn’t know how to use a camera?? There wasn’t some policy about using a digital camera that all PI’s have to M9????…..Wow.
I haven’t to my knowledge been subject to much by way of surveillance – save for a couple OSA bots trying to infiltrate my family home some years back – until Friday. Then mysteriously a white van with a camera hoisted high on its roof to see over my garden fence parked itself for most of the day the other side of my house. The camera would have been looking straight into my office and across the garden. It so happens that Friday was the IAS event day and OSA had very little intelligence about who was going to protest etc. Coincidence? Possibly. Message to OSA UK, Graeme Wilson, Janet Laveau et al – give me a call and make an appointment like normal, civilized people – I would be happy to make an appointment and have a chat. (I got video of the van complete with number plate).
Hi Martin Padfield,You are very smart to have a video of the white van with number plate.Back when I was being followed around an area of Boston known as Beacon Hill,I wish I had had the foresight to get pictures.But this was 79-80 and I was pissed off and really frightened all at the same time so my thinking was not rational but emotional back then.By coincidence or not? I had an apartment literally five minutes away from the really nice old junior college main building the cos bought on Beacon Street.It has been sold now as I hear on this blog,cos has moved to the burbs.In Boston this shows that they are shrinking fast.The Beacon St location was a gold mine at the start,but folks caught onto the cult pretty fast in the 90s onward.I had the GO tailing me all over back in the 80s.Now I can recall that time without going nuts,but I do feel for anyone that has to put up with the spy-games cos plays.It can get terribly convoluted and definitely annoying as well as illegal if the spyers are misrepresenting themselves.Wait this is David Miscavige’s cult now so why would he bother with stupid laws etc?Being that he is such a Big Being and knows all!Always look for your posts Martin,thank you Love,Ann.
A little target practice might be in order.
Hi Newcomer, Definitely!?Ann.
Actually, Mr PI reminds me more of Steve Earle than Bluto. I bet Mr PI can’t sing as well as Earle can.
Keep shooting the footbullets 4’13”. You are doing the world a solid, so just keep on shooting.
Like everything else in scn this is another example of them being trapped by the policies of the founder – attack never defend – There seems to be an institutional inability to see that doing the same thing repeatedly will not produce a different result. It is almost as if scn wants the world to hate and not trust them.
That is the same exact PI that met us in the airport in Utah for Sundance.
Oh yeah you are right Marc! He still has a job!
I added a coupe of the shots you took of him to the bottom of the post….
“Eagle-eyed Marc Headley (who incredibly NEVER forgets a name or a face)”
Would that be at least part of the definition of a Clear? 😛
TrevAnon – When I was in Scientology I was notoriously horrible about remembering things. I had to take notes at every meeting or i would not have any data from the meeting. Turns out that when I get regular food and sleep I have a photographic memory that is pretty damn good. So after I left scientology I “gained” this “ability”. Also, as long as we are on the subject, my eyesight improved markedly after leaving…
“Private” Investigator or “Primate” Investigator. MU time.
Oh, Primate for sure! Remember Piltdown man!
Are you insinuating that like Piltdown Man, the PI is a fraud?
Leigh, I resemble that remark! But, yes, the PI is fraud.
Or maybe I should say he contributes to the overall fraud.
I think a better cartoon reference would be Wiley Coyote and the RoadRunner. Miscavage is indeed running like crazy as he waits for gravity to take him down after running off the cliff. An ‘Acme’ PI?? Now they are hiring from the shallow end of the PI gene pool. That guy looks like Chumly from Pawn Stars. The lens cap pic is so funny.
Why is dwarfenführer so interested in his dad? Yeah, there are a lot of exs in the Portland area that can compare notes, but what do they know that shivers DM’s timbers?
Leah Remini is getting huge coverage, ahead of her book release, but Ron Miscavage may have info that could really slam the clampire. Someone knows something that could bring down the edifice, where are they?
It can be difficult for many people to grasp how a church winds up hiring a booze drinking, drug using, tattooed hippie (like the one in the post above) to report to them honestly and accurately the affairs of one of their former members. Just for beginners, and if these are in fact the teachings of LRH that the above pictured man and his employers are following then LRH was probably a pain in the ass at times as well as his church. 🙂
Well…LRH was also a booze drinking, drug taking individual, so there’s that…..
Anyway, I’d say our PI was more a biker than Hippie.
Yes please I hate to see peaceful, chill hippies maligned by comparing them to this goon in any way. He’s definitely biker, not hippie.
And don’t even think about making fun of his Vespa.
I agree completely. I meant boozing, redneck, low life, drug taking tattooed biker, not hippie.
Never heard of an “extremist hippie” either.
Please don’t offend the rednecks. At least they do an honest day’s work for a living. 😉
I will have to hire one sometime and find out. 🙂
Hi Lawrence, Thank you.Your post had me laughing!Always,Ann.
🙂 Hey Y’all – listen. Some rednecks got it goin’ on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dDnv9zeLs&list=RD82dDnv9zeLs
Super good-looking “country girl” singing about how cool and wonderful she is because she’s not that fancy sophisticated kind of girl who eats at fancy restaurants, drives fancy cars and lives in a fancy house like Gretchen Wilson does. 🙂
Sounds like the girl’s got it all, alright. Don’t be hatin’. 😀
What exactly is Dave looking for when he hires these PIs? Oh, yeah, that’s right, L. Fraud said that every critic of Scientology is a criminal, and you have to look for their crimes. Wouldn’t Dave, though, already know if his own father had “crimes” in his past? Well, it isn’t his money that’s paying for the PIs, so investigate away.
Too bad for the PI that Randy caught a shot of the lens cap still being on. Normally for a PI hired by the cult, if you don’t fuck up too badly, you’ve caught the goose that lays golden eggs. We all know that Dave overpays PIs to a ridiculous extent. Show some competency in private investigating, and he’ll put you on retainer and employ you to spy on someone for years (witness the Broeker investigators). Biker Dude just lost enough money to set him up for life because he forgot to take off the lens cap. Too bad, dude.
And, yeah, he does bear a bit of a resemblance to Bluto. I won’t elaborate on my feelings regarding Bluto because it leads into an area where Mike tends to shit-can my posts.
I guess Miscavige got what he paid for: a Repo guy playing at being a PI who believed he could intimidate Ron et al with his “NSA” wifi label and blatant surveillance. I guess he never read the memo about taking the lens cap off the camera while conducting surveillance (and NSA employees and contractors are prohibited from identifying themselves publicly as NSA).
That’s what I love the most (the ‘NSA Super Secret Surveillance’ designation.)
Might as well be ‘James Bond Super Secret Spy Van’
Just hilarious.
And the lens cap! Even better….
On this point I have to agree with COB… He is surrounded by incompetents.
The 3 stooges have officially taken a back seat to the wacky goings on by the cult. You can’t make this stuff up! Comedy Central is calling….
That’s a Texas plate on a rental from Portland…reminds me of the Texas plate on the SUV surveilling in Iowa in the past Mike. Could be just coincidence.
Yeah rental plates come from all over
Dear COB,
Sending out your enslaved minions and hired goons to harass and bully women and elderly people will not get you the world’s respect and admiration. Please don’t take this as an evaluation but you really ought to try something something else.
Do I sense inspiration for Friday’s cartoon, or is Leah Remini already booked (no pun intended)?
Hi Espiando,
Today’s posting did get my gears spinning but Friday’s cartoon is already on the drawing board. I really hate it when Mike let’s go of some really good stuff when I’m just hours away from my deadline.
Regraded Being, your strips are always pure genius. I know I speak for many, not just myself, when I say we look forward to your strip all week. Even though I know it may make me cry as well as laugh. We have to get these shown to more Sea Org members who are still in. I dream of one of your strips going out in the mail, somehow included with a notice from the C of S of an upcoming event or similar….
Dovetailing on what T.J. said, wouldn’t it be something if someone on the inside working on an event committee mailing inserted copies of your strips instead of the event flyer and mailed them out? What a wet dream that would be….
Hi Alice Graves,That would be wonderful if RB’s strips were inserted instead of event flyers. However I have a sneaking suspicion that David Miscavige has a annual temper tantrum each Fri when RB fires a strip off.How RB can keep it together after “channeling”David each week,is so remarkable to me.I feel Mike & RB work so hard here and do so much I admire both deeply.I will keep on trying to help with my donations and hopefully those still in may just may peek here and realize there is life outside the prison walls of cult Scientology.Always,Ann.
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Regraded Being don’t worry about the deadline, just whip-up a single picture of a wide-eyed Dave bent over his very expensive desk with the “ R” corner of the ARC Triangle ( Affinity, Reality, Communication) disappearing up his ass. No dialogue needed, the picture will tell everyone all they need to know.
The goon in the truck aiming the camera ought to remove the lens cap. One can take better pix that being the case. { (Thanks Mike 🙂 }
Yeah, well, ya see, Rob, he’s not a Private Investigator, he’s a Primate Investigator. So leaving the lens cap on is perfectly reasonable…
This is so stupid, that we can’t allow David Miscavige to procreate. We need to remove him from the Gene Pool! (The Eugene C. Breedlove Lake in the classic Mystery novel, Zombies of the Gene Pool).
Seriously though, this was so incredibly stupid, that I wonder whether or not the man has suffered a stroke. Minor strokes can occur with no visible outward symptoms, but can lead to cognitive damage, and smoking is a huge contributor.
Mike,
You need to set up a special website (a credible site) (something that will come up in a search) where you factually, objectively state and or explain (and give examples) as required of:
1. Why the COS is not a bonafide church?
The difference between the cos and conventional churches?
(as you did in your recent blog or more if you can)
Bonfide means in good faith, free of fraud or deceit, entrapment, mind control, coercion or free of ulterior covert motives.
2. Why nothing the cos says or does is without fraud, or deceit, the intention to entrap, control, manipulate to their goals or purposes? The long term goal is to take the victim to the money cleaners.
3. Why the cos is a criminal organization?
4. Why no one who is in their right mind, or properly informed
would agree to such terms and conditions as the cos state.?
5. Why the cos not entitled to IRS Tax exemption?
6. Explain the difference between the cos and scientology and the fz.
Explain what the cos is?
Explain what the cos is not?
Explain what Scientology is?
Explain what scientology is not?
Explain what is good in scn.
Explain what is bad in scn.
Explain what the fz is?
Why the fz is legitimate?
Explain that there are many spin offs, like in any religion.
Explain that people seeking scn services have many choices today.
Explain that anyone seeking scientology services or philosophy, or interested in the subject not go by opinion, conjecture and general web rhetoric. They should learn the difference between a belief, opinion and a fact.
Rhetoric:: language that is intended to influence people and that may not
be honest or reasonable: the art or skill of speaking or writing formally and effectively especially as a way to persuade or influence people.
They should do their research thoroughly by first reading dianetics and some scn books such as Fundamentals of thought, A new slant on life, Science of survival. Often available on ebay, in used book stores, or Abe books. Then research several different fz orgs.
They would be wise to read other religions and philosophies too, to keep a
balanced perspective. They should learn to think for themselves.
So anyone who does research on the cos will have the opportunity to get the
facts.
Or anything better that you can come up with, to that effect.
Dio
Some helpful data:
Constructive fraud is a representation or a contract which is so lopsided, so ridiculous, so unjust, so inequitable, so unconscionable, that no one in their right mind or properly informed would agree to the representation or contract.
A representation or a contract that is so lopsided, so ridiculous, so unjust, so inequitable, so crooked, so coerced, so unconscionable, that although out right fraud was not intended, it might as well be fraud.
Courts may nullify such agreements.
The term representation is used in reference to any express or implied statement made by one of the parties to contract to another, regarding a particular fact or circumstance that serves to influence the consummation of the deal.
True consent cannot be coerced.
For any contract to be valid there must be a mutual meeting of minds.
There must be a duplication of understanding.
There must be a level playing field.
Professional ethics encompass the personal, organizational and corporate standards of behaviour expected of professionals.
Professionals, and those working in acknowledged professions, exercise specialist knowledge and skill. How the use of this knowledge should be governed when providing a service to the public can be considered a moral issue and is termed professional ethics.
Professionals are capable of making judgements, applying their skills and reaching informed decisions in situations that the general public cannot, because they have not received the relevant training. One of the earliest
examples of professional ethics is the Hippocratic oath to which medical doctors still adhere to this day. Wikipedia
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The principle of all consumer protection laws state:
Quote from the Ontario Consumers Protection Act:
(Although all countries, states, provinces may not have the same wording in their laws, the spirit of the law, which is that no one is allowed to take advantage of anyone’s ignorance or weakness, applies everywhere in some shape or form.
Any contract or agreement in which someone’s ignorance or weakness was taken advantage of, is null and void.)
PART III
UNFAIR PRACTICES
False, misleading or deceptive representation
14. (1) It is an unfair practice for a person to make a false, misleading or deceptive representation
2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 14 (1).
Examples of false, misleading or deceptive representations
(2) Without limiting the generality of what constitutes a false, misleading or deceptive representation, the following are included as false, misleading or deceptive representations:
1. A representation that the goods or services have sponsorship, approval,
performance characteristics, accessories, uses, ingredients, benefits or qualities they do not have.
2. A representation that the person who is to supply the goods or services
has sponsorship, approval, status, affiliation or connection the person does not have.
3. A representation that the goods or services are of a particular standard
, quality, grade, style or model, if they are not.
4. A representation that the goods are new, or unused, if they are not or are reconditioned or reclaimed, but the reasonable use of goods to enable the person to service, prepare, test and deliver the goods does not result in the goods being deemed to be used for the purposes of this paragraph.
5. A representation that the goods have been used to an extent that is materially different from the fact.
6. A representation that the goods or services are available for a reason that does not exist.
7. A representation that the goods or services have been supplied in accordance with a previous representation, if they have not.
8. A representation that the goods or services or any part of them are available or can be delivered or performed when the person making the representation knows or ought to know they are not available or cannot be delivered or performed.
9. A representation that the goods or services or any part of them will be available or can be delivered or performed by a specified time when the person making the representation knows or ought to know they will not be available or cannot be delivered or performed by the specified time.
10. A representation that a service, part, replacement or repair is needed
or advisable, if it is not.
11. A representation that a specific price advantage exists, if it does not
.
12. A representation that misrepresents the authority of a salesperson, representative, employee or agent to negotiate the final terms of the agreement.
13. A representation that the transaction involves or does not involve rights, remedies or obligations if the representation is false, misleading or deceptive.
14. A representation using exaggeration, innuendo or ambiguity as to a material fact or failing to state a material fact if such use or failure deceives or tends to deceive.
15. A representation that misrepresents the purpose or intent of any solicitation of or any communication with a consumer.
16. A representation that misrepresents the purpose of any charge or proposed charge.
17. A representation that misrepresents or exaggerates the benefits that are likely to flow to a consumer if the consumer helps a person obtain new or
potential customers. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 14 (2).
Unconscionable representation
15. (1) It is an unfair practice to make an unconscionable representation. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 15 (1).
Same
(2) Without limiting the generality of what may be taken into account in determining whether a representation is unconscionable, there may be taken into account that the person making the representation or the person’s employer or principal knows or ought to know,
(a) that the consumer is not reasonably able to protect his or her interests because of disability, ignorance, illiteracy, inability to understand the language of an agreement or similar factors;
(b) that the price grossly exceeds the price at which similar goods or services are readily available to like consumers;
(c) that the consumer is unable to receive a substantial benefit from the subject-matter of the representation;
(d) that there is no reasonable probability of payment of the obligation in
full by the consumer;
(e) that the consumer transaction is excessively one-sided in favour of someone other than the consumer;
(f) that the terms of the consumer transaction are so adverse to the consumer as to be inequitable;
(g) that a statement of opinion is misleading and the consumer is likely to
rely on it to his or her detriment; or
(h) that the consumer is being subjected to undue pressure to enter into a
consumer transaction. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 15 (2).
Renegotiation of price
16. It is an unfair practice for a person to use his, her or its custody or
control of a consumer goods to pressure the consumer into renegotiating the terms of a consumer transaction. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s
. 16.
Unfair practices prohibited
17. (1) No person shall engage in an unfair practice. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 17 (1).
One act deemed practice
(2) A person who performs one act referred to in section 14, 15 or 16 shall
be deemed to be engaging in an unfair practice. A0 2002, c. 30, Sched.
A, s. 17 (2).
Hmmm. Looks to me like u have the skeleton of a site you can set up right there. I just don’t have time to fit in something else along with keeping blog going, earning a living, spending time with family and helping those who ask for assistance.
Dio,
Re: “You need to set up a special website (a credible site) …”
Huh? … Really? … And WhoTF are you? … This site is not credible??? — No, you’re not credible, Dio, with the Little Dick’s Ego and agenda.
If you’re so tall, and took the time to pen all that facetious crap, then why don’t you have the balls to go to the Sci-Fi site, itself, and critique dm, along with the rest of your gripes, yourself? … Maybe even start your own guru webpage following, instead of trying your best to belittle Mike? (Mike could never be little! Ha-ha) … I’m just saying … being that you’re so omniscient and all. You know what I mean?
(For cripessake, does any one here have “STUPID” imprinted on his or her forehead? LMAO!)
With the greatest respect Dio, “Mike you need to…” is not a very appropriate way to start a post. I’m sure your intentions are good but it’s up to all of us to do our bit any way we can. Maybe you can put this site together yourself.
A big AMEN to that Martin!
+1000
Dio, your agenda is incredibly obvious: you want someone with some gravitas to provide legitimacy to the Indies/Freezone. I still remember the massive amount of Indie butthurt on the South African blog after Going Clear came out. A couple of people even said that the documentary had no credibility because the Indies weren’t mentioned. I can only imagine what was said at Millstone Two.
Mike’s right. If you want to fellate your fellow Indies, write up something yourself. Oh, that’s right, no one will give a shit if you do it, but if it’s Mike Rinder, the world will stand up and pay attention.
Pathetic.
Dio
You wrote: “explain what fz is” and ” why is fz legitimate ”
In fairness, you should add: “is fz not legitimate?”
Chee, you forget Dio’s history. All of his clammitude has taken place in the Freezone. To him, it’s automatically legitimate because he’s been involved in it for dozens of years.
What is “clammitude”, dear Espiando ? I tried looking it up in the Net but couldn’t find anything , but I am sure that I have heard it before.
TC
Just a little made-up word on my part, mildly derogatory, that would be equivalent to “experience with the philosophy known as Scientology”. When we Never-Ins want to get nasty talking about Scientologists, we call them “clams”, after one of L. Fraud’s most idiotic assertions in History Of Man. “Clammitude” is just an extension off of that.
Got it , thanks ; a very descriptive word ,indeed!
TC
It means they’re still drinking the Kool-Aid.
Got it , thanks.
Espi, I was feeling charitable…. Actually I read the first half of Dio’s post….
Dio’s post is a prime example of ‘tl;dr’.
But, yes, I know what you mean…..I thought it was a rahter large oversight on Dio’s part that while he was willing to ask what was good and bad in the Co$, he was not able to do the same for the FZ.
I look at the FZ as a halfway house… They’re done with the detox, but they still have a long way to go toward sobriety…
I fully understand that , but at least they are not into Human Rights violations , but are only quietly minding their own business with their CBR stuff. Can’t say that their beliefs are any more “cosmological” than those of the BIble. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Faith. “Misguided” or “unscientific” faith is not the problem – humanity if filled with those , and has been for millennia – , but denominations with practices that violate Human Rights to suppress others.
TC
CBR was a homophobe just like his dread lord and master. I’ll let Ron’s Org off the hook the moment I see Max Hauri disavow the 1.1 stuff and get his flock to follow.
“CBR was a homophobe just like his dread lord and master.”
TC : I am curious as to where did you get that impression. Not trying to defend CBR here ; I didn’t even like the guy. I just want to find out what is that he said or did that made you think he was homophobic , that’s all.
“I’ll let Ron’s Org off the hook the moment I see Max Hauri disavow the 1.1 stuff and get his flock to follow.”
TC : I think he might have already done that , dear Espi , Max is not into that shit from LRH. You might want to ask him directly. I think you’ll find quite a civilized man there.
Anyway , try to not punish hundreds for the works of one man. I assure you , most Scientologists I know ( and I know a LOT of them) , either LRH’s KSW followers or Ron’s Org parishioners , are everything but homophobic.
TC
TC: In CBR’s “debrief” published in the Sector 9 book, one of the crimes of the Mulligans (a husband and wife team who supposedly betrayed Scientology in the 70s according to CBR) was that “both of them are homosexual”. The context surrounding this statement is completely negative, and the fact that CBR would mention homosexuality in the context of other crimes is a firm indication of his beliefs.
And I don’t care about Max’s personal belief. I want him to state that Hubbard homophobia is no longer a doctrine of Ron’s Orgs. In other words, I want the Pope speaking ex cathedra on the subject.
The problem with churchie Scientologists or Indies regarding Hubbard and homophobia is, as someone here said, the silence on the subject. And if ACT-UP taught me anything, it’s Silence = Death.
“TC: In CBR’s “debrief” published in the Sector 9 book, one of the crimes of the Mulligans (a husband and wife team who supposedly betrayed Scientology in the 70s according to CBR) was that “both of them are homosexual”. The context surrounding this statement is completely negative, and the fact that CBR would mention homosexuality in the context of other crimes is a firm indication of his beliefs.”
Dear Espiando , here is why I found about that CBR’s statement that you are referring to :
“James Mulligan was in charge of Intelligence and his wife Anne Mulligan (they’re both homosexuals, by the way – they got together to make a good “show”), but they chopped all the Legal and Intelligence lines to Mary Sue, and just let thru what they wanted her to see, or wrote up their own reports the way they saw it, or the way they wanted it to be, and that was the way the Government wanted it.” End of quote from Sector 9 CBR debrief.
Peter : Honestly , You can’t interpret jus y by the above quote that CBR was homophobic. He is simply stating the fact that such a couple were not actually a couple (husband and wife) , but pretended to be to “make a good ‘show’ “. I grant you , that it can be interpreted as if he thought that being an homosexual is something censurable , but that above quote can also be interpreted in other ways too. Le’s not be so extreme here , please. And don’t forget that this was in 1982 , where the almost all the population was still very misguided about homosexuality and censured it to a very large degree.
You got to relax on that , my friend , It feels like you are overreacting here over minor details , and are making the mistake to fail to evaluate the historical context of that and other quotes as well. If you want to protect your rights and be listened to , you got to grant a little more beingness here to others , and give them the chance to learn and change. This can’t happen overnight. We humans tend to reject and withdraw from what we do not understand. Patient and forgiveness are your best tools to create a world with better tolerance from dissident viewpoints. You got to lead by example , my friend. It is the only way. Being upset and hurt is not going to help you neither.
Tell you what , why don’t you and me work on helping them change and be public about those changes by the use of correct communication and correct political diplomacy ? I can get them to go public about it with your help , but you got to relax and work with me. It will take diplomacy , understanding , granting of beingness , patient and correct manners ; the ingredients to avoid wars. Care to face that challenge with me ?
“And I don’t care about Max’s personal belief. I want him to state that Hubbard homophobia is no longer a doctrine of Ron’s Orgs. In other words, I want the Pope speaking ex cathedra on the subject.
The problem with churchie Scientologists or Indies regarding Hubbard and homophobia is, as someone here said, the silence on the subject. And if ACT-UP taught me anything, it’s Silence = Death.”
Peter : I fully understand what you mean there , and I fully agree on that point. Silence = being an accessory to a crime. See my above comment for the solution. Even though that I fully agree with you on that , I don’t agree on the methods you’ve been using to get what you want. The above method is the only way to do things. I am willing to make that happen , but under the rules of the game described above ; no attacks , no hate. I am tired of those methods from a lot of people here , and can’t support them.
Anyway , thanks for being honest and direct as always. That’s a good quality.
Best regards,
Peter Torres
thetaclear68@yahoo.com
P.S.
Sorry for my grammar horrors. I wrote the above reply in a hurry , directly on my Android, and didn’t have the time to check the grammar. I am still polishing this second language of mine.
Peter
Wait…. Who/what is CBR?
Espi, against my better judgement I’m going to ask you why, if you’ve never been in Scientology, you single out Scientology and LRH and his homophobic issues for your particular ire, when it is well known that many of the world’s religions are still today decidedly homophobic – the Roman Catholics, the Greek Orthodox, the Orthodox Jews, Muslims, the Church of England; all the Evangelical Christian sects, Baptists: the Pentacostal Church, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses – these are just off the top of my head, possibly there are more but these are all homophobic religions. The Muslims alone number a billion – roughly 1 in 5 people on the planet are some type of Muslim and not one type of Muslim has any acceptance of homosexuality. Please don’t construe this as an apology for any homophobia inherent in Co$. I’m not arguing for or against the Church of Scientology’s anti-gayness. I’m just curious as to why you would single out the homophobia of a tiny cult and its Founder. Now, perhaps this “singling out” is incorrect on my part and perhaps you’re posting on other blogs that I don’t read. Perhaps also this is too personal and none of my business and I’m out of line in even asking you, in which case I have no doubt that you will freely tell me so 🙂 However, if you are not averse to solving this puzzle – what can I say – I’m interested.
Aqua: I don’t single out Scientology. I’ve been known to troll holy roller Christians who break out Leviticus or 1 Romans 1:26-27. I just don’t have the chance to do it here, since this isn’t the place where they normally show up.
And it’s not only the homophobia. It’s Hubbard calling himself a nuclear physicist; I have an actual degree in Physics that I busted my ass to get and I consider it a personal insult for someone to claim academic credentials in that field that they manifestly did not earn. It’s Hubbard’s claim of 27 medals won in WWII when he won 4; as a US Army veteran, I take Stolen Valor seriously. It’s Hubbard’s claims for the Putrif flying in the face of every single thing known about biochemistry.
L. Ron Hubbard’s existence and work personally offend me on multiple levels. I’m against the cult, and I’m even more against the cult of personality. Both need to be eradicated.
Chee: CBR = Captain Bill Robertson, the biggest flake the Sea Org ever produced and the founder of Ron’s Orgs.
Espi, thanks, I appreciate your taking the time to clarify that question of mine. I know nothing about biochemistry so I can’t agree or disagree as regards the Purif. I did the Purif twice and benefited somewhat each time, at the least it didn’t hurt me, but that’s anecdotal, because obviously it isn’t for everyone and far from being a scientific process. I’m in complete agreement with you concerning the lies about Hubbard’s degrees and war medals and so forth. I am also against the cult, if not, as you well know, the subject itself of Scientology around which the cult serves as itsform. And I’ve always been embarrassed by any cult of personality in any form. I get where you’re coming from now. Thanks again.
TC, I agree with you on that….as long as someone follows ‘the Golden Rule’ they are ok by me.
People are free to believe whatever they want
I don’t have to agree with it or like.it, but I have to respect their right to do that.
That’s very conscientious of you , dear Chee Chalker ; I am loving you already. :-)))
TC
Dear Chee Chalker , I am curious as to how are you defining “legitimate” ; care to elaborate on that ?
TC
TC,
I was simply following the format of Dio post….Dio wote
“Why is the FZ legitimate”
I thought (in fairness) the flip side of that question should be asked
If you are interested in my personal opinion, I look at the FZ as the ‘fruit of the poisonous tree’, which is a legal concept, but IMO can be also be used here.
That is, Scientology is a toxic ideology (I would not call it a belief system, unless the Scientologists is willing to share, unequivocally, what they believe. (the Xenu story)
Anything that ‘falls off the Scientology tree’ is also toxic and that would include the FZ.
I understand ; thanks for sharing your viewpoint on that.
TC
Dio, here is a relevant Consumer Protection concept for all Free Zoners…
“Show me a fucking Clear!”
Ozone, free zone, or sciozone… Same shit, different wrapper.
David Miscavige is becoming almost comically incompetent. Operating out of chaos and fear is no fun. I would suggest counseling from a good psychiatrist, but they are the enemy, too, right?
Great post Mike! These posts just keep getting better and better. But then, Miscavige keeps giving you so much of his insane, idiotic blunders, you can’t help but keep having great posts. I believe the head of the snake has been cut off and what we have now is a slithering headless snake still trying to scare everyone into doing what Miscavige wants. I guess it worked for the church in the past, and of course Miscavige knows because LRH said: “What caused the affluence is capable of causing it again.” Yeah, right. Keep thinking that OSA and Miscavige. I have an idea Dave: Why don’t you just quit disconnecting families and friends and start to show some compassion?
Captain Dave and whats left of OSA is liking watching that old TV show “F Troop”. A bunch of bungling idiots that shoot the canon through their own watch tower and then jump on some poor old horse only to fall off the other side. I still think Dave should get all dressed up, drag along the Gold shoot crew and open the Ideal PAC Canteen!!!!! Come on Dave, impress the world. Maybe even TC will stop by to get a popcorn and give you a thumbs up and get you all hot and bothered.
We’re the Hekawi.
What’s that, hgc10?
The Hekawi were the wacky native tribe from F Troop. You gotta learn to Google, old man.
Yes, they are. OSD, say it out loud: “We’re the Hekawi”
Hey! I’m only as old as I…..as I…..Crap! I forgot…
Someone needs to make a report to the NSA. It sounds like a misappropriation on their name AKA impersonating them. It might not be enough to file a charge but it should get their attention. Anyone dumb enough to do that is most likely impersonating them in other ways.
I doubt the National Security Agency has a trademark on NSA, or would want to take anyone to open court over it. Perhaps stands for “Numbnuts who Spy Awful Inc”, the PI company?
*laughcrying* 😀
And I’m cryinglaugh…
Sadly, He will just blame it on the PI. Obviously a guy that is so Oat Tea that he can shoot video with the lens cap on knows how to set up a wifi network! I’m surprised Mr. Do & Tat didn’t call it the Obama Security Detail.
And wait till Dear Leader reads this blog today…….. that PI is gone and likely without pay!
Yo Dave,
You’re really showin em up these days. Good job on keeping the pressure on all of the SPs out here good buddy. We’re quiverin !!
Maybe Niblet won’t fire the goon but instead make him shave and go Brooksy.
“NSA Surveillance Van 23” wifi server eh? Oh yeah, this is the A-list team alright. I’m not sure what they’d be up to with that, or why they’d broadcast a giant e-sign of warning. Possibly wifi interference too. Hmm.
I do know that I’d be connected to that server and be checking it for open ports faster than they could say “Ooops!”
Noisy investigation. Let the target know they are being investigated so it will scare them into abandoning their actions.
Of course if they can’t be intimidated, this sort of thing makes the instigator of the investigation look really bad.
PI sees a new wifi server pop up: “CIA ECCM HK DRONE #447” with a web page of pictures of him picking his nose. (I love Raspberry Pis, they’re the Swiss Army shiv of hacking.)
And yet, all you have to do is turn the porch light on and they scatter like roaches. Unless they’re parked two doors down. In that case, I just call that neighbor, they turn Their porch light on, there they go!
I have this line stuck in my head now, “the PI who bought my garbage”. If I read this anywhere else, I would assume I got lost, took a wrong turn, and skidded onto one of those tabloid sites.
But it did give me a productive idea, knowing these PI’s are so well paid. There Are a lot of staff leaving who will need a job. heh
It’s a common tactic of PI’s. Scientology has even given it it’s own name. The “D line” (“Dumpster line”).
The PI’s cannot just show up in front of your house each week and empty your trash can, so they pay the local garbage collector to set aside your garbage and then rendezvous with them later to collect it.
At my last house they told the garbagemen they were doing an investigation into drug trafficking (leading them to believe it was the DEA) and wanted to get our garbage. The garbage guy felt bad about it and knocked on our door to tell us…
At this house I always assumed they were doing it. One day (after the birdhouse camera incident) I got motivated enough to follow the truck until they made the drop off.
People throw away a lot of useful information (if they are not thinking that it might be taken by someone to be used against them).
But think of the bonus points if you attach a string of cans and a sign “JUST PWND!” to the SUV!
(Just kidding!)
I’m not sure I’d be intimidated by someone dorky enough to name a wifi server “NSA surveillance Van 26”.
Given the level of ineptitude of the guy, it might even have been WEP encrypted.
Oh, I tried. Wish I knew how to get past the password required. LE familiar with the circumstances wasn’t concerned about the “NSA” part – in fact it prompted a good 20 second belly laugh.
With this level of talent, try “PASSWORD” or “SECRET”.
Well, it has to be at least eight characters, so going along with Mat Pesch’s mini-meme of Classic Sixties TV Shows combined with a certain movie that’s coming out shortly, maybe the password is “DOUBLENOUGHTSPY”.
My favorite password joke was from ‘The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt’
‘Let’s see…..my password is my grandmother’s birthdays, January 2, 1934….so, that’s 1 2 3 4’
“That’s the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!”