Raving Clive is at it again…
“…the majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!”
And you, my friend, have therefore admitted to delivering squirrel tech and charging people for it for 30 years or more. Now you tell your loyal customers they are being recalled AND they have to pay. Can you imagine GM trying this — recalling the cars they made with faulty parts AND charging people to replace them? It is a ridiculous thought. They would be put out of business.
But not in Scientology. Here you announce over and over “we have the ONLY tech to salvage mankind and you need to pay us to participate in it, right now (and no, nobody else has the “authorized” stuff)” and then a few months or years later “Big News: NOW we have the only “real” tech, it was all messed up before — so pay us again.” And repeat. As often as you can get away with it.
I guess the “Golden Age” of Tech, when everything was finally perfect, wasn’t so golden.
Fool’s gold maybe….
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014
From: Flag Office <[email protected]>
Subject: From Clive Rabey D/Captain Flag AO!
Dear Solo NOTs Auditor or New OT VIII,
With the release of Golden Age of Tech Phase II in November and the opening of the New Flag Building, we have now entered a truly whole new world!
We are going to be bringing you fully up to date on all the news at the L.A. Flag World Tour on Saturday the 21st of June, in the posh “Hollywood & Highland”. Doors open at 6:30pm and we start the presentation at 7:00pm.
Not only will we give you a better reality as to how much of an impact Super Power and the Cause Resurgence Rundown truly have (we now have plenty to show and tell!) But we will also give you the fantastic news about people flying through new OT VI with results and a speed which is unheard of! (Did you know that this coming week we will have completed over 800 public on the Golden Age of Tech Solo Courses here at Flag?) Yes the 10,000 target is that much closer!
And yes, we are very interested to see public move onto their next step on the Bridge–which for many is the Purification Rundown or the SRD. We will be working closely with orgs to help get each and every Scientologist onto his or her next step right there in the Class V Orgs of LA.
While many have experienced this whole new world, there are still thousands of Scientologists right there in the Greater LA area who need our help to get moving on their personal Bridge up to total freedom!
What I need is A) for you to attend and then B) Bring 5 of your friends to the Flag World Tour event as well. I want to reiterate that, while you may be well up on what is happening in PT, the majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!
As you report the 5 people that are coming with you to the local FSC Office, you will get a special commendation from my office (with copy to the Freewinds)!
This is a game were everyone wins–Flag, your Org, you and your selectees and friends!
I know I can count on you.
Best Regards,
Clive Rabey
D/Captain Flag AO
Not even bothering to comment on all the other outnesses in this email. He is a fountain of the bizarre.
hiatus57 says
I rember this bloke Rabey at St Hill in the UK. Wasn’t he known as “Raving Rabey” a total ethics case.
How things have changed in the Church of “Signhereology”.
I cannot wait for the Newspeak information that is spewed when GAT III is rolled out.
How will Raving Rabey explain that once again for the first time in history we have the Tech as Ron wanted it delivered.
What a load of total bollocks, still when you have the olny game in town and you hold the unrelaesed (squirrel) OT level over the heads of the public like the sword of Damocles I suppose you can get away with it.
remoteviewed says
Gotta admit MJ.
That’s one way of escaping the persistent mass and implant restimulation of the “Church of Scientology” these days.
Who knows maybe this is their current concept of “Total Freedom”.
Laurie Dlm says
mmm it seems that there is a problem still with the reply button
Laurie Dlm says
Very witty that one MJ !
Gus Cox says
Any time now. After all, that idiot Allender is still around, I’m sure he remembers it well and train up a few people…
Gus Cox says
My Grand-dad used to say that too. I could never get the maths to work… but I couldn’t prove him wrong 😉
Aquamarine says
“…bring 5 of your friends”. And Clive is not referring here to one’s raw public friends, but one’s other Scientology friends. Now, wouldn’t those Scientology friends be receiving their own invitations if they were in good standing? Could Clive be implying that one should bring one’s disaffected friends who are not buying all the GAT II BS? This doesn’t make sense to me. But then, what else is new when it comes to Cult Comm?
Cooper J Kessel says
Won’t happen MJ, the giant sucking noise is here to stay.
remoteviewed says
Another mysterious vanishing post.
Wasn’t even impugning Mike’s character this time.
Go figure.
Must be one of those Word Press gremlins or the NSA or whatever …. anyway.
Clive’s Raving once again.
I mean I went to one of his events way back when I was in and wondered what Lunatic Asylum did this guy escape from?
Why this guy gets so much cred I don’t understand. I guess like his friend Dave you give ’em some impressive title and people are awe struck.
My fix is this guy probably had a traveling medicine show not too far back on the track.
Anyway…..
Let me take ol’ Clive seriously for a moment.
“…the majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!”
Yeah my attention hung up on that line too Mike.
Let me see it’s been what?
Oh close to thirty years since the Ol’man went on to Target Two, dropped his body, left his mortal coil, gone to that other Galaxy he describes in Scientology Clear Procedure. Whatever your view.
Yet still we never got all the tech.
Translation is that its taking those bozos in RTC and CST longer to compile it than it took Ron to develop it.
I mean back in the day I accidentally dropped one or two PC Folders and yeah it took me a long time to get it all sorted out and back together but I doubt if it was anywhere near the time it took to audit the case to that point.
Maybe Dave should put down that bottle of Scotch and Clive could maybe stop taking the drugs he seems to taking and give us back the Tech we had a couple of decades ago without all the alterations or at least check themselves into rehab.
Espiritu says
Set-up:
If I am not mistaken, “Master Clive Rabey” is an Executive Director.
That makes him an “E.D.” Is that correct?
Apparently, few are listening these days as he continues dropping his road apples on the Road to Total Freedom from his imagined position of authority.
I mean, as Mike infers, it’s really hard to get people to listen to a horses ass.
Punch Line:
I don’t know, but perhaps a snappy theme song would help, Clive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSsuohepbVk
zemooo says
You have some expensive shit to fix. How much of GAT2 is a check of your loyalty to Miscavage? Pretty much all of it. There will be more ‘golden ages of technology’ every time Davy wants more nice Italian shoes or fuel for the jet. When the GATs wear out, can OT 9 and 10 be far behind?
Perhaps Shelly Miscavage, in her secret lair, will find that coffee stained napkin with the instructions for OT 11 and 12. Miscavage is well on the way to getting auditing out of the CO$, they are just overhead and Davy doesn’t want to share the income with them.
thegman77 says
You beat me to it, Coop! Gee! A “special commendation” worth exactly nothing, written and signed by a nothing, then sent along to another group of nothings. Wow! Can hardly wait!
racingintheblood39r says
No shitting? BTW, Is that ‘whinney’-ing sound coming from the horse, the ass, or the jockey.? Shit, man, it’s all so confusingly similar !!! 🙂
remoteviewed says
Clive Raving’s kidding right.
The “posh” Hollywood & Highland????
Yeah maybe 50 years ago like say the Knicker Bocker and the late great Ambassador.
Obviously they are running out of venues.
Guess the Beverly Hilton’s no longer in the budget.
Maybe along with “Ideal Orgs” they should start an “Ideal Venues” program.
Anyway moving on.
“…the majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!”
Yeah Mike I found that little quote weird and offensive.
The Church hasn’t had the Tech “exactly as LRH laid it out” since that abomination known as the Golden Age or as some of called it Grossly Altered Tech. Used to irk me that those of us who got suckered into doing the “Certainty” course had to treat those squirrelly packs with such reverence.
(I used to pile tech vols on top of ’em and “accidentally” drop them on the floor when the Course Super wasn’t looking 😉
Whew I feel so good getting off that “overt”
But anyway…)
So I doubt if it’s gotten any better with the latest sequel. More likely worse.
At least back then we still had people like Danny and Ray to hold somewhat of a line from complete and utter squirreldom.
Now we got people like Clive the Raving Lunatic who’s probably never done a level on the left hand side of the bridge telling us we got all the tech plus at least over 200 additional objectives.
Thanks Clive I’ll take what you say under advisement.
Right up there with anything say the NSA or CIA or other professional liars say.
MJ says
I just had a cognition. It’s really the Golden Age of Death. Here’s how it works: you become so confused and interiorized from all the wrong whys, bad programs, money ripoffs and reverse bridge progress that if you don’t get the hell out of there, you ultimately end up killing yourself.
WhiteStar says
Clive keeps waiting for someone to send in the clowns. where are the clowns he keeps asking? surely there ought to be clowns, he says.
i wouldn’t be holding my breath Clive
Davey made his entrance again with his usual flare,
sure of his lines, only to find fewer are there.
Playing the same old farce year after year
Tom’s a bitch , JT’s afraid to be queer
kirstie’s head is vacant from ear to ear
Blind to the chinks in your armor
just like that girl who used to play Dharma
Black Panther says
So when that happens, does it mean we are expanding or they are? I get confused….. 🙂
Cooper Kessel says
Don’t you mean putrefied? I was hoping to attend Clives little luncheon so I could flatten my need to upchuck.
Cooper Kessel says
This was supposed to appear under MJs comment above.
MJ says
Purify, another wrong why, Davey be trippin’ with dem dere lies.
pedrofcuk says
That goal of 10,000 was supposed to be a done in 2010, just saying.
clergyman says
Some people seem to be continuing fools for fool’s gold.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice…
The Club of Seals (CoS) heavily wields the cudgel of shame and blame to keep the fools fooled.
Robert Almblad says
I am sure the explanation that DM gives to people around him for the total failure of GAG II is that it is because of Mike Rinder and others out here. It will never occur to him that GAG II is the single stupidest program ever executed in the history of Scientology. It’s the perfect shit storm: GAG II + lawsuits + shittyest PR ever
Overrun in California says
For over 40 years, this is what I’ve been hearing, over and over again.
Oh, it was bad before, but now it’s all fixed! Oh yea, there was squirrels around, but now they’re all gone! Good news!, we had the wrong data, it’s all fixed now!. ALL ARBITRARIES CANCELLED!!!!
Gets really old. A long time ago it got old.
Pericles says
Kissing the Dwarfs ass is SOP!! Otherwise he’ll beat your ass to a pulp….come to think of it, he’ll probably do it anyway. SOP all round!
Doug Parent says
What is probably closer to the truth is that the “majority of Scientologists” do not accept the assertion that “we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!” While it may be true that a majority of “Scientologists” probably suffer from cognitive dissonance, it isn’t true that Scientologists are stupid. If indicators are as such that a statement like that could be made at all, then just about ANY Scientologist by this time is smelling something awfully fishy. Follow the scent people, you may not like what you find at the end of the line, but the truth WILL be better in the end than trying to live with lies.
Doctor Manhattan says
The Tampa Org EDs have also re-done their objectives! Jump on the hamster wheel, everyone!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=738675699517887&set=a.502479646470828.127100.125810934137703
I also laughed when I saw this guy.The dark sunken eyes, black jeans and grey t-shirt–he looks like an RPFer. Great idea for a Halloween costume!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=733374793381311&set=a.502479646470828.127100.125810934137703
Hallie Jane says
I agree completely Sylvia. The “you’re an out ethics piece of shit” attitude comes through loud and clear. I’ve corrected objectives on several people and when something is really out, the person knows it and is willing to work with the tech staff. When they know you have their best interests at heart, have done full research on that particular person, give caring comm and r-factors, it can go smoothly and very well.
Ken says
Hallie and Sylvia, I think you both nailed it. It’s just rude to the max, expecting someone to “cognite” that we now have … just like Ron intended.
If a PC needs fixing – it’s a joy to do so and easy, you can’t just force a correction down a PCs throat. Much less an entire group! The still-ins are already in an upset state. Why would you do that to someone? Just wrong, so very wrong.
Just Me says
Because a commendation from Clive (with a copy to the Freewinds) is what all Scientologists yearn for.
Clive, you do know it’s over. Don’t you?
SadStateofAffairs says
As already remarked upon, the statement that the majority of Scientologists have not cognited, on how perfect and wonderful is GAT II, is a pretty startling backhanded admission for ol’ Clive to be making in a public emailing.
The reason the majority of Scientologists have not cognited the way Clive (and Miscavige) think they should have, is that the cognition being demanded is a falsehood. The more accurate statement is that “the majority of Scientologists have not fallen for our bull shit this time, so we’ve got more work to selling this one.”
Really, Miscavige and his sycophant squirrel brigade have fallen for the idea that, although Freedom Magazine and Church PR media statements have more than once stated the opposite, “repeating a lie makes it true.”
But in fact, they are falling more and more afoul of the little-boy-that-cried-wolf syndrome.
After having made numerous pronouncements that “the LRH materials are now correct and complete for the first time ever,” even some of the loyal start to detect the bullshit.
After numerous pronouncements that “now for the first time ever the tech as LRH intended it is now available,” even some of the sheeple start to detect the bullshit.
After having made numerous proclamations that for the first time Ideal orgs, “the way LRH intended”, are being made and are booming like never before, even some of the koolaid squad can’t help but notice the emptiness of the idle orgs and start to detect the bullshit.
I could go on, but don’t think it is needed.
Hence the majority of the ever-dwindling flock seems to no longer believe you Dave. They aren’t listening anymore. Throw all the tantrums you want, slap around all the subordinates you want, blame it all on anyone and everyone else all you want, its not gonna help you one bit. You will be remembered down through history as, 1) to those in the know – the SP that Destroyed Scientology. 2) Generally – as Mr. Incompetent Failure. Nice going. Your legacy is going to really suck, asswipe.
Tara says
My Like button won’t load…hasn’t for days 🙁
Tara says
Well dang. Comment about it and it shows up…
Ken says
Keep staying away, or better yet, simply walk out. I admire – wanting it to get better – but it’s only going to get worse. Btw: Davie isn’t going to do any confronting for you. The CO$ is dying and not dead yet because you keep kidding yourselves that it’s going to get better with some magical fix. It’s only getting worse, confront that!
People typically will throw money at something they can’t confront, to handle it. All the money in the world won’t confront this MESS called CoS.
It’s something YOU need to do.
jgg2012 says
Isn’t it more accurate to say that the tech was right in the first place and Miscavige has squirreled it?
Ron says
DM wants only to be right.
So he keeps burning the toast,
over and over again.
MJ says
And soon he’ll be toast.
Narapoid says
“then B) Bring 5 of your friends to the Flag World Tour event as well. I want to reiterate that, while you may be well up on what is happening in PT, the majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!”
After 60 years NOW they have it. Yeah bring those 5 friends so we can reg the hell out of ’em and make them feel like a losers for not taking a 4th mortgage.
Oh no Rabey, you sorry pimp, the majority of Scientologists have cognited, and that’s why so many of the 8 million are staying away.
MJ says
The jig is up Mr. Jive Rabey, stop trying to kiss the ass of Davey.
Conan says
Mike,
Are you also under cyber attack like Karen?
Mike Rinder says
Have been. And new PI activity too. The natives are restless it seems….
Conan says
Yeah, that is what I thought, it seems that the legal storm is taking its toll on the insane asylum.
Please post any findings if you can.
minorron says
“And yes, we are very interested to see public move onto their next step on the Bridge–which for many is the Purification Rundown or the SRD.”
So for the newcomers looks like they only have to pay for the bridge only once.
For any old timers this would be the 2nd or 3rd time back up the bridge.
No more worrying about anything missing this time. Everything is in place as LRH intended it.
Didn’t Gat I say the same thing years ago? When Gat III hits years from now those newly in will have the fun of having this WTF moment that the old timers are having now.
SILVIA says
“Thousands of Scientologists in the LA area need our help”….right, very condescending attitude. The covert invalidation goes together with it (people are doing bad and can’t cognite on their own) so Clive is there to enforce his help.
Arrogant attitude instead of an honest caring “what do you need or want from us?” Conclusion, he is in desperate propitiation and below treason.
Tony DePhillips says
I think the guy is so deluded that he believes his own bullshit.
scientology411 says
I got a special commendation from Mark Bunker for supporting his upcoming documentary. That meant more to me than anything I ever got from the “church.”
zana says
Arg. I just have to have that commendation from Flag. I’m getting low on T.P. (toilet paper). I gotta get that Clive Rabid’s commendation.
This gets more and more bizarre. Thank you for giving me the precise, clear questions to ask anyone who calls me to try and get me there:
She replies innocently to the Co$ harasser on the phone, “May I please ask you a question? If you NOW have all the tech that LRH intended 30 years after he is dead, doesn’t that mean that the Co$ has been delivering squirrel tech for 30 years and charging for it? Either THAT is squirrel tech or THIS is squirrel tech. You can’t have it BOTH ways. How do you know which is which? And if THAT was squirrel tech, why are you charging me to do it all over again? If GM produced faulty cars, wouldn’t they legally be required to replace the faulty cars for FREE? Or face being put out of business?
Then just wait for the answer. Or the hang-up click.
Oh boy, I hope someone calls me. Thanks, Mike.
scnethics says
Yes, “the majority of scientologists” and “bring 5 friends”, these are telling signs of just how lackluster the response from the scientology public has been.
threefeetback says
Hey Dave, NEWS FLASH. New Taylor Made Objectives Process, you are not being audited. Oklahoma Grand Jury prep checking to confront the realities of being jailed. Translation: Committee of Evidence, Interested Parties — Dave, Tom, John, Kirstie. This is the command, “GRAB YOUR ANKELS!”
Cindy says
Haha good one. Good to see you here Miss B Haven
Salute says
all is fine .. the church expand like mad .. all is better than ever .. the tech is truly deliverd to all ..
Dan351 says
“The majority of Scientologists have not cognited that we do now have all the Tech exactly as LRH laid it out!”
Actually, I’ve been waiting for Davy to rediscover the lost tech of “de-dinging”. It was popular before the ’82 Mission Holders conference.
Does anyone know if this was one of the 371 objectives processes that Davy found? Maybe de-dinging could be done after Super Power?
Peter Turner says
The thing about this current crap and de-dinging is that de-dinging actually worked. The ’82 mission holders conference was the biggest crime ever committed by “Scientologists” in history (and I am not excluding operation Snow White here either). Not just Miscavige but a whole heap of really nasty people were there. Who can forget the Finance Police and the International Finance Dictator Mr Reynolds? Now there was a very nasty piece of work if ever you saw one. I know that a lot of you will not agree with this but seriously take a look at the transcript of the mission holders conference and then tell me how any of us could rally have supported Scientology after knowing about that. I would love to talk to Wendell about this some time if he is around and has the guts to face the music. I met Wendell in Sydney in ’83 and he was a huge bully.
If Miscavige is worse that Reynolds was then there is no wonder that there are so many who now see the light and have left.
Ken says
Like handling the ARC in your environment. With the CO$ all over your lines, that’s a tough one. But without it you’ve got no session.
Don’t act so surprised. You apply it half-assed you get half-assed results.
Stop expecting ‘Davie’ to find out why and hand you all a fix-it-all because he can’t and doesn’t want to.
Your first step is to get OUT. That would be doing something about it.
Ken says
Truly bizarre.
They are like a rabid nest of vampires.
…hovering over the latest new “reason” . WAKE UP PEOPLE! You didn’t apply it correctly, basta, end of story. That is why.
This doesn’t mean you REDO everything. All it means is that you applied it incorrectly. It doesn’t mean you got it all wrong. It does mean you’ve got some shit to fix.
GTBO says
Well I guess somebody’s getting reamed that Flag’s GI is not up to Der Leader’s expectations.
MJ says
I can picture Davey boy as a jockey (he’s about the right size) on his high horse wielding his whip as the shit from his nag hits his ever diminishing fan club.
MJ says
Objectively speaking, I already feel purified.
Jose Chung says
Majority of Scientologist’s not with the program ?
See Clive Rabey NOW !!!!!!! Bring your credit cards, get second and third mortgages,
refinance you car,borrow from relatives ( tell them you need a liver transplant)
cash in anything that can be liquidated you own including furniture,jewelry.
YOUR ETERNITY IS IN DANGER, MOST IMPOIRTANT DAVID MISCAVIGE NEEDS MORE LAWYERS
( THEY COST $1,000. PER HOUR !!!!)
Do it NOW, NOW, NOW.
LDW says
Wow…openly admitting that the “majority of scientologists” are NOT with the program. Sounds like Clive is spreading black PR and needs to be pulled in for some super-special Truth Rundown handling.
Sounds to me like the majority of scientologists are not accepting little davey’s suppressive C/S that they are unflat on purif and objectives.
If Gat II is required for all solo auditors and they only have 800 obedient participants, doesn’t that mean they only have 800 actually auditing on the level?
Cindy says
Yes, if all SN and Solo Auditors were made to redo GAT II training and there are 800 now on Solo Courses, sounds like there are only 800 auditing on Solo Nots, a far cry from the 10,000 they have been shooting for for over 14 years now. Sounds like many are not falling into line to accept the out tech CS from the Non-CS, David Miscavige. And Clive Rabey let it slip. Off with his head! Into the Hole for Clive for spreading the black pr!
Ron says
Truly.
The hype is too funny, one desperate lie after another.
Simple Thetan says
Funny!
Ms. B. Haven says
As my late father-in-law used to say, “for some reason there seem to be a lot more horse’s asses than horses”. I think that statement applies to this email. In spades.
Cooper J Kessel says
” you will get a special commendation from my office (with copy to the Freewinds)!”
Now that really puts it over the top for me, where do I sign up Clive. Sheeesch!
Visitor says
Say, didn’t the COS force everyone to redo their objectives just a few years ago? Won’t it be kind of difficult to get them to redo them once again?
NOLAGirl says
800 done, racing towards the goal of 10,000? Didn’t they just say recently that there had been 30,000 completions at Flag? Or am I lost in their lies? I’m not sure, it’s so hard to keep up with all of them.
Myrklix says
I was taught that when you tell the truth you don’t have to remember what you said. Conversely, when you lie and do not remember the shit will eventually hit the fan.
MJ says
Lots of horseshit to clean up.